Simple Questions With Massive Ramifications….

If you ever read the indictment of SSCI Security Director James Wolfe [pdf HERE] you would notice how FBI Washington Field Office Supervisory Special Agent Brian Dugan conducted his leak investigation that ultimately led to James Wolfe.

As SSA Dugan explains his investigative process, he goes to great lengths to describe how he went to the FISA court to pick up a copy of the Carter Page FISA application on March 17, 2017.  Agent Dugan then takes it to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence where he gave it to SSCI Security Director James Wolfe.

Simple Questions: Why did SSA Dugan go to the FISC to pick up a copy?

Why didn’t Agent Dugan just go to Main Justice and pick up a copy from the DOJ-NSD file that contained the FISA application? Why go to the FISA Court for a copy?

This is not supposition; this is the process described and outlined in court records. So, why go to the FISC and not the DOJ?

♦ Secondly, SSA Dugan goes to extreme lengths to draw attention to his copy; he calls the top secret FISA application an “FBI equity” in numerous documents. It’s his equity, his document, because he was the original equity holder of the document.

Agent Dugan was responsible for generating it. Dugan repeats that provenance again, and again in court records throughout 2018: “FBI Equity“.

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The March 17, 2017, copy of the FISA application -as stamped by the FISA Court- was FBI Agent Brian Dugan’s equity. It was inside his investigative file.

This March 17, 2017, copy is his investigative work product.

So riddle me this… QUESTION:

When Main Justice DOJ (think special counsel) released the FISA application, under the auspices of a FOIA fulfillment, on July 21, 2018, why did they release FBI Agent Brian Dugan’s copy?

Why didn’t the DOJ release their clean copy of the FISA application?

Why did the DOJ find it necessary to release WFO FBI agent Brian Dugan’s equity?

Additionally, how did Main Justice get SSA Brian Dugan’s copy of the FISA?…. But more importantly, when the DOJ decided to release the FISA application to the public, why did they release FBI Agent Dugan’s copy?

The answers to these questions tell a big story.

Isn’t it curious how no-one has ever asked those questions?


♦ Why did Dugan go to the FISA Court for his original copy?

♦ Sixteen months later, why did the DOJ want to release Dugan’s copy?

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968 Responses to Simple Questions With Massive Ramifications….

  1. negasht7 says:

    I’m assuming Dugan was counting on the FISA being leaked one way or the other, so a decision had to be made which one Wolfe would receive to leak. With that assumption I’m also assuming he intended to catch Wolfe. Was that his role? Then be removed from case once his part was done?

    Was Dugan a DOJ mole inside FBI making sure if things went south it would fall on Comey’s FBI, not Obama’s DOJ?


    • bertdilbert says:

      Here is the Dugan Solve.

      The leak was ordered by the Mueller SC people. The first renewal was sacrificed to save the original application and 2nd and 3rd renewals from discovery.

      The leak document had to come from the FISA court directly. The SC had control of all aspects of spygate after Crossfire Hurricane was folded into the SC, with the exception of the FISA court.

      Once the leak was proven to the FISA court, the SC had predicate request FISA court block any naked releases of documents. All future documents would then have to come from the SC which would be subject to the whims of the SC redactions.

      Dugan’s FBI equity became the last FBI equity. All future FISA would become Mueller SC equity.


  2. anthohmy says:

    The SC got their copy from the New York Times.

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    • Puzzled says:

      The NYT probably wrote the FISA application.

      Liked by 7 people

    • zadatn says:

      It looks like to me that Wolfe was in contact with more than Ali Watkins. Wolfe generally admitted having contact with REPORTER #1. He also admitted having a “few reporter friends,” and named REPORTERS #3, #4, #5, and #6. REPORTERS #3 – #6 are all young, female national security reporters. the FBI discovered following the January 11, 2018 interview, that the defendant had used the encrypted Signal application to communicate with REPORTERS #3, #4, #5, and #6, and that the defendant provided non-public SSCI information about national security investigations to each of these reporters.

      Signal Messenger LLC. It uses the Internet to send one-to-one and group messages, which can include files, voice notes, images and videos.

      This guy needs 10-15 years in prison with bubba.

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  3. anthohmy says:


    Is there any chance that the entire FISA application was an “FBI Equity” because the whole thing was fake? Do we have external evidence besides this incident?


    • RandomAussie says:

      I think it’s more likely it was an “FBI equity” simply because the FBI were the ones who wrote it or did the “investigation” of all the “facts” in it. (At least, I assume they write it, then pass it up to DOJ for approval.) So it wouldn’t make much difference if it was true or false, it would still be their equity.

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    • drinks on me says:

      I’ve always suspected something like this bc, well, it’s a CI investigation right?


  4. Puzzled says:

    Evil is making a pretty good run at it. But it will fail. SD and like minded people will never accept evil prevailing.

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  5. corvairfan says:

    Interesting, inexplicable mention of “we found gold behind the walls of the kitchen, just like I always thought “. Where did Comey and Trump have the big conversation? The one that Trump said, Comey better hope it wasn’t recorded?


  6. beth02 says:

    Is it possible that the SC released Dugan’s FISA because that’s the FISA the press already had. If they had released the non-Dugan FISA, the press might have gone into conspiracy mode ?

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  7. SJM says:

    Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Larry C. Johnson: If the Facts Matter, Andrew McCabe Will Be Indicted for Lying

    August 11, 2020

    I will be very clear up front–I have no inside information about what John Durham is going to do. But if he is simply following the facts and the evidence, Andrew McCabe will be one of the first to fall in the probe into the failed coup to destroy the Presidency of Donald Trump. The record on this is indisputable. He lied in three separate instances–1) He lied to FBI investigators, according to Michael Horowitz, 2) He lied to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and 3) He lied to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

    McCabe’s record of lying starts with questions put to him by FBI investigators about leaks of sensitive FBI evidence to the media in the fall of 2016:

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  8. oldfiredude says:

    So SSA Dugan changed the date on the FISA to do a leak trap. In that he snared Mr. Wolfe, who then subsequently shared that FISA with Ali Watkins and The NY Times. So to “protect” the leaker, the Mueller team also released the Dugan version of the FISA under the auspices of a FOIA request to the NYT. This would “explain” how they got the document. But in doing so, was not the Mueller team obstructing a leak investigation? Did Dugan nail all the bad guys in one swoop? Just wondering?


    • Right to reply says:

      Yes, obstruction, but in not prosecuting Wolfe fully, it also revealed the SC had destroyed Dugan’s evidence of the leak, evidence of who it was leaked to, and the conspiracy of why it was leaked. This allowed the SC to continue its witch hunt, lead to the impeachment inquiry, and PROVED the SSCI was in on it.

      Grassley gave his chair to Graham. Why do you think that is? Graham looks very scared right now…Rubio, is awful quiet too…

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      • MagaMia says:

        Great summation, Rtr!
        Why did Grassley give his chair to Graham? He’s reportedly reclaiming it in 2021.


        • Grassley better check the date on his driver’s license. He might not make it to 2021.

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        • I’ve heard it’s a common thing to give the chair… although Graham is connected thru his friendship with McCain and he supposedly told McCain to show the dossier to the FBI when his assistant obtained it secretly….so we can assume Graham is wrangling to frame his involvement in some innocent way. He also probably doesn’t want the “institution” exposed. Grassley gave him the chair on the expectation to have it back for his last year in office as a status issue I suppose…..


  9. avocadodipp says:

    Why did Dugan go to the FISA Court for his original copy?
    Sixteen months later, why did the DOJ want to release Dugan’s copy?

    I am wondering if Dugan was instructed to go to the FISC and request this particular document. The Lawfare Group along with the Spygate crew were all in place and working feverishly on the coup/cover up in March 2017. They were planning on a “Special Counsel/insurance policy” and were getting their documents together.

    I read the Wolfe indictment, and the FBI had text information, phone calls, emails, etc. on Wolfe all the way back to 2013. How long had Wolfe been under surveillance? They have a lot of dirt on this guy.

    I think the Cabal needed this particular document injected in to the system for their use – I don’t know why. I see how they did it – they knew Wolfe was incredibly dirty, he would realize it was an important document, and he would share it with his little ho’s that call themselves “reporters.” It was an excellent way to get the doc in the system and still give the Cabal “plausible deniability.” Their hands are clean. Wolfe was a casualty, but that’s okay – he is expendable. His buddies in SSCI didn’t warn him, either. This is the way Comey & Co works.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      only way to get doc is to request it.

      this doc being released made the public calls for someone to investigate russia LOUD.

      end result – mullers appointed by republicans and democrats.

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    • avocadodipp says:

      Need to revise this – I wonder it was decided by the Cabal that it was necessary for this particular document needed to be injected in to the public sphere. SSCI requested it, they had Dugan pick it up, give it to Wolfe – the rest is history. They are all working together.

      I will be glad when the truth comes out.


  10. Peoria Jones says:

    “You all”? And exactly where are you from? Sounds like you’re on Satan’s side.

    I’m surprised Ad rem or Sundance hasn’t booted you out for your comments today.

    Liked by 2 people

    • MakersMark says:

      Thank you Peoria!


    • JSBachLover says:

      Wow. You don’t like what he says so he should be banned? Think about the implications of what you’re saying. And how you’d react if the shoe were on the other foot.


      • Peoria Jones says:

        The implication is quite simply that this is SD’s site, and we have someone making a concerted effort to undermine him and violate his repeated warnings not to make comments such as the ones made today.

        As per Guidelines for Commenting, the mod’s have asked us to say something if we see something untoward. It’s their choice, but they deserve to know.


  11. Newhere says:

    I highly suggest reading the timeline and documents filed under the CTH tag “James Wolfe case (SSCI)”.

    Man oh man I think I’m starting to see what SD has grabbed hold of the Wolfe Leak as the fulcrum.

    There’s another interesting (and potentially revealing) aspect that becomes apparent if you go back and read the original sentencing memo — bear with me here, I think this gets to something good (or at least interesting).

    I’ll start with a question: How was it possible for the US Atty for the District of Columbia, Jessica Liu, to represent in James Wolfe’s sentencing memorandum of December 18, 2018, that James Wolfe “is not alleged to have disclosed classified information”? The memorandum makes that statement 3 times, including in the opening paragraph (and page 6 and page 22 “investigation has not uncovered evidence that Wolfe disclosed classified information”).

    Of course, we know from government’s reply memo that Wolfe disclosed Carter Page’s FISA application, and even the indictment, dated May 8, 2018, acknowledges that the FISA application indeed WAS, at the time, classified.

    Hold that question — now let’s back up.

    Here’s what the the timeline as presented in Liu’s sentencing memorandum.

    — On April 11, 2017, a media publication appeared containing “top secret” FISA Surveillance information, prompting FBI to open a criminal investigation of the leak.

    –“During the course of the investigation” — the FBI learned that in March 2017, a pre-publication copy of the FISA App was hand-delivered to the SSCI for review on a read-and-return basis and Wolfe handled the transmittal (the memo leaves out exactly when it learned about the SSCI transmittal).

    NOTE: the memorandum indicates that Wolfe was snared in a leak investigation LAUNCHED in April 2017. Which implies that Brian Dugan’s transmission of a “tracer” copy to SSCI on March 17, 2017, was part of a separate, pre-existing leak investigation. That’s new to me — maybe I’m missing something — but seems odd not to mention it if the transmittal to SSCI was itself part of a leak investigation. Might as well put a pin in that, not sure what it means.

    Back to timeline in sentencing memo:

    –After the discovery that Wolfe could have leaked the FISA application (and that he’d had a prohibited relationship with a reporter dating back to 2013) — the FBI was at a decision point on how to proceed. The memo explains that the “highest levels of the FBI” made the determination NOT to follow the normal course which would be to notify executive branch intelligence “equities” of the potential breach (because of separation of powers issues) and instead “to compensation” by taking the “extraordinary step” of notifying ONLY the chair and vice chair of the SSCI (Burr and Warner). They were asked not to remove access, lest it disturb the investigation.

    No date is provided in the memo on precisely when SSCI was notified — but would have to be between April 2017 and the Wolfe interview in December 2017 — common sense would say probably immediately, meaning in late April.

    It also would be nice to know exactly WHEN the “highest levels” of the FBI were brought into the decision-making. April would have been Comey; post-May 5 would have been McCabe; Post-August 2 would have been Wray. Notice, too, that Liu says “highest levels” (PLURAL) to blur whether it was the Director himself. The memo implies an immediate decision was required, so likely it was Comey.

    Whether it was Comey, McCabe or Wray — this means that FBI headquarters (the “7th Floor”) had its fingers in the leak investigation as early as 2017. In other words, before Main Justice (ie, Special Counsel’s Office) was handed the completed investigative file in 2018. Also, Burr and Warner knew Wolfe had been caught on the FISA in 2017.

    Back to the timeline:

    — In October 2017, the FBI obtained a delayed-notice search warrant for Wolfe’s phone (and we know from the indictment that Wolfe was notified in October about the leak investigation).

    –On December 15, 2017, Wolfe was interviewed by FBI about the leaking (including the FISA) and about his relationship with the reporter (Ali Watkins). He lied. After that, the FULL SSCI is informed about the interview and the lies, and AT THAT POINT, SSCI terminates Wolfe’s access to classified information.

    — Starting October 30, 2017 (after Wolfe was notified by FBI about the existence of a leak investigation), and immediately after his December 15, 2017, interview, Wolfe started reaching out to TWO MORE reporters, offering to serve as a secret source and leaking the news that SSCI had subpoenaed to Carter Page. Note: the SSCI subpoena was “non-public information” — but NOT classified. This is critical.

    — Wolfe was interviewed by the FBI again on January 11, 2018, about these new leaks, and lied again.


    I’ve long wondered why Wolfe would KEEP LEAKING even after learning about the specific leak investigation, and especially after lying in an FBI interview. I’ll cut to the chase: it looks like he knew exactly what he was doing, and it looks like the group-effort cover-up started before Mueller’s crew got its mitts on the Dugan’s leak investigation file in 2018. I think it started when FBI headquarters learned about the SSCI-related FISA App leak back in 2017. I think they knew Wolfe had been caught red-handed on the FISA leak (and all the ramification that would ensue), so initiated a mitigation plan, in which Wolfe is the fall guy for a lesser crime not directly involving the FISA application.

    Lying to investigators about “unauthorized disclosure of otherwise non-public information” is far, far less serious than leaking classified information. So, they just needed to create the circumstances for Wolfe to plead to a lesser crime, not directly involving the FISA.

    Sundance has already pointed out that Jessica Liu must have withheld the damaging evidence about leaking classified information from the grand jury, so that the only possible indictment that could be returned would be for lying. Well, I think we can now fill in some of the blanks on how that was pulled off.

    Why did Wolfe leave an FBI interrogation in December 2017 and immediately start leaking MORE wantonly than before? to seed a different crime. The post-December 2017 leaks were “unauthorized disclosures of otherwise non-public information.” He needed to give Justice a lower level offense to focus on. And why did he LIE AGAIN in his next interview in January, 2018? Again, to give them a replacement crime — now he’s lied about non-FISA disclosures (recall that in December 2017, he lied about the FISA leak).

    From October 2017 (or at least by December 2017) to January 2018, Wolfe provided the fodder for his leak prosecution. All pre-dating conduct could then be relegated to background and context, where the truly damaging aspects could be airbrushed away.

    But for this to work, DOJ needed to be able to say that Wolfe wasn’t caught disclosing classified information. Otherwise, the FISA App leak would be the elephant in the room. They had to be able to avoid addressing it by making the blanket statement that Wolfe leaked no classified information. Remember, the sentencing memo states THREE TIMES that Wolfe isn’t alleged to have disclosed classified information. It’s a critical fact.

    How do you make a “classified” document go away? You release it to the public. So, in July 2018, the *precise* document Wolfe illegally disclosed was made public. Making something public erases its “classification” status. Thus, Jessica Liu could claim in December 2018 that the investigation did not uncover evidence that Wolfe disclosed classified information. It’s disingenuous, to be sure. What she really means is he did not disclose information that is CURRENTLY classified.

    Sundance is THE ONLY ONE who discovered Jessica Liu’s slip up: she filed an exhibit — the affidavit by FBI investigator Brian Dugan — that expressly confirmed that Wolfe indeed leaked the FISA application. Otherwise, the prosecuting materials characterize the FISA leak as the predicate for launching the investigation in April 2017 — without EVER actually admitting that Wolfe leaked it. It’s a grand sleight-of-hand.

    Here’s my hypothesis: The clean-up operation started whenever in 2017 the 7th Floor learned that Wolfe/SSCI was snagged in the leak investigation (likely late April 2017). That discovery, itself, may have hastened to perceived need to appoint a Special Counsel to run damage control. The hand-off of the file to Main Justice (ie, Special Counsel’s Office) in 2018 was just the last step. The activities creating the basis for prosecuting a lesser crime were carried out in late 2017-early 2018.

    So, publicly releasing the same document that Wolfe leaked to a reporter not only provides cover for the fact the media had had the FISA App for years while pretending not to — it also erases the crime of leaking a “classified” document. It’s the same reason Hillary’s State Dep flunkies pushed so hard to downgrade the classification of emails discovered from her server. Make the crimes go away.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      create a fake crime to launder the classfied leaking crime into a booboo with a bandaid.

      again this shows conspiring between the US attorney (hides TOP SECRET LEAK from grand jury) and the FBI Headquarters and the Senate Intell Committee Chairman.

      Sundance previoulsy posted that nasty picture of Warner shaking Comey’s hand, and looking into his eyes like he is a coup warrrior.

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      • Newhere says:

        Yep. What’s new here to me is that FBI 7th floor seems to have been helping the effort earlier than we thought. And that picture really is gross.

        Also, the way the sentencing memo reads — it’s as if it’s describing an investigation that arose out of nowhere in April 2017, prompted by media publication of the FISA information. But Sundance is taking pains to highlight the actions of Brian Dugan before the April 2017 leak, ie, in procuring a FISA App directly from the FISA court to transmit to the SSCI in March 2017, so that this “bait” for what became the April 2017 leak would be an “FBI equity” (as opposed to a NSD/DOJ equity).

        Is it at all possible that FBI 7th Floor was also targeted in the Sting? The only way is if FBI brass was kept unaware of the leak investigation run by Brian Dugan from the Washington Field Office, such that they weren’t aware at the time that the March 17, 2017 transmittal to SSCI was a leak-tracer. So when the FISA information appeared in the press in April, they proceeded to “launch an investigation” ….. perhaps also being monitored as part of the March 17, 2017 bait?

        I may be too far out on a limb on that one …..

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          maybe they launched and investigation in April – to “take over” the previous investiations to ‘shut them down’ and assess ‘damage control’ from who already got caught.

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        • marymorse says:

          Jeff Sessions in Nov. 2017:

          …”“We had about nine open investigations of classified leaks in the last 3 years,” he told the House Judiciary Committee at a November 2017 hearing. “We have 27 investigations open today.” (Some of those investigations pertain to leaks that occurred before President Trump took office.)”

          Leak investigations included Russian intercepts including Flynn, Comey memos, Reality Winner on Russian hacking, etc…

          Sessions in August 2017:
          …”Soon after I arrived here in February, I initiated a review of our leak investigations and prosecutions. I reviewed how these cases were being referred and handled and was concerned with what we found—too few referrals, too few investigations with insufficient resources dedicated to them. I concluded the unprecedented rise in leaks required a surge of additional support for more investigations and to speed up our existing investigations.”…

          For the past several months, we have already made changes and are seriously ramping up our efforts.

          First, I directed my Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein—whose district in Maryland encompassed the NSA headquarters and who has personally led these kinds of investigations— and FBI Director Christopher Wray to oversee all classified leak investigations and actively monitor the progress of each and every case.

          Second, I directed the National Security Division and U.S. Attorneys to prioritize cases involving unauthorized disclosures. The Department will not hesitate to bring lawful and appropriate criminal charges against those who abuse the nation’s trust.

          Third, as I said, we tripled the number of active leak investigations. In response, the FBI has increased resources devoted to leak cases and created a new counterintelligence unit to manage these cases. Simultaneously, the Department is reviewing policies that impact leak investigations.”…

          …”created a new counterintelligence unit to manage these cases.”…



    • icthematrix says:

      Excellent analysis thank you!! The evil ones are slick and very intelligent. But they think no one is smart enough to catch them.

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    • Newhere says:

      And here’s another oddity:

      Liu says in the December 2018 sentencing memo that the reason they continued the investigation into Wolfe during late 2017 — without notifying any executive branch “equities” and only alerting the chair and vice-chair of the SSCI (Burr and Warner) — is that they needed time to covertly investigate whether Wolfe had disclosed classified information during his 3-decade tenure at SSCI.

      But we never learn one word about what came of THAT investigation (ie, the 30 yrs he could have been leaking). Instead, we learn all the details of Wolfe’s buffoonish leaking between October 2017 and January 2018 — when he KNEW he was being watched!

      In other words — that extra time that Liu says was dedicated to investigating past crimes appears to have been used for fabricating the one they would actually prosecute.

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      • Can Liu be held accountable by the DOJ for deceiving the Grand Jury by withholding critical evidence?

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        • Newhere says:

          I’m guessing she didn’t technically withhold any evidence in a way that would be deemed illegal. She probably had her you-know-what covered on that one.


      • Beau Geste says:

        Newhere, excellent analysis. Does his ‘immunity” grant cover all past releases of “classified” records? If so, is this a component of a coup conspiracy by comey, mccabe. Liu et al, or a permissible ‘discretion’?
        Do his girlfriends and Warner have immunity?

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        • Beau Geste says:

          How does the timing, and decision of Wolfe’s lawyers to subpoena all the SSCI fit in? Was it for show, or did it force a reduction in charges?


          • Newhere says:

            That was July 27, 2018, one week after the FOIA release of the FISA application Wolfe leaked.

            I don’t know why. Maybe it was sort of a shot over the bow, a reminder to the committee of his own “insurance policy.” Maybe he didn’t know what “the plan” was in releasing the doc he had leaked, so was a little rattled.


        • Newhere says:

          I’m not sure about what immunity was doled out. Frankly, if DOJ ever actually decided to go after this — I don’t so much care if he already has immunity if he’s willing to cough up the goods on the SSCI conspirators (and possible others within the executive branch)!


          • Beau Geste says:

            if he has immunity, like doled out to all of hillary’s henchcritters, he has no reason to remember.


            • Newhere says:

              Yeah, you’re right again. Well, immunity often can be stripped for reasons like it turns out you weren’t fully truthful. But yeah, he may be home free, and leverage lost to get anything from him. 😦 But I really don’t know what the grant of immunity was. It’s kind of hard to find all the relevant docs!


      • marymorse says:

        Maybe Wolfe was given a taste of prison, to encourage him to come clean on what exactly his role was for the last 30+ years.


    • notvicchanko says:

      I believe that you may have cracked the code, Newhere. Something else that I found is that the “Declaration of Special Agent Brian Dugan” that is attached to the “DOJ Response to Defense Sentencing Memo“ is NOT searchable, at least not in Scribd. The attachments appear to be images embedded in the larger (searchable) PDF. So even if you search for the Smoking gun phrase “the FISA application“ it will return “0 found”. Convenient, huh?

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    • Jessie Liu has been involved in so many cases, from Roger Stone to the non-prosecution of Andrew McCabe. Barr, oddly enough, seems to be a big supporter of Liu. Even so, the very day she left Justice for Treasury, the DOJ recommended lighter sentencing for Stone. So, it’s obvious little Taiwanese Jessie was the one recommending the unreasonable sentence recommendation. She resigned from Treasury back in February yet still shows an active DC Bar listing connected to the Department.


  12. Justin Green says:

    You know, it would be funny…

    Comey: Uh oh, the SSCI has requested to review of the FISA application. Rod, which one was the real version?

    Rod: I dunno, I didn’t read any of them before I signed them. Lisa, which version is the real version?

    Lisa: I dunno, we just wanted to screw Trump. We didn’t actually write the applications. But let me check with Petey.

    Stzrok: I didn’t write the FISA application. I was too busy texting Lisa. Maybe Halper knows.

    Halper: Nope, I was drunk the whole time.

    Dugan: Maybe we should just go get the copy the FISA has so we know it will match.

    Comey: Great idea, run over there and get a copy.

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  13. Jerry Joe says:

    Answer: The DOJ could not release its clean copy because it never had one to release. Rosenstein admits to signing it without reading all of it. Why would he think he needs a copy?

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  14. gsonFIT says:

    I think SD did a great job defending himself on Twitter. My observation is that many people, even seasoned DOJ prosecutors dont comprehend the institutional corruption in our government. SD’s challenger thought why would Wolf Leak to Ali Watkins if the document had already been leaked and published to the 3 NY Times guys. Not realizing that SC had taken over DOJ and was calculating and pathological in their cover up. A cover up of not just a leak but a RICO conspiracy run out of Obama’s WH, State Department and DOJ/FBI not to mention Weissmann’s SC

    The Twitter foe is a very smart attorney that writes for a conservative website and has a strong following on twitter and I think he has no idea how corrupt D.C. really is. He sees a few incidents but not the strategic conspiracy I guess he wasn’t elite enough to make the SES/Apparatchik cut which probably makes him a pretty good guy after all.

    SD was gracious but threw in a Bruce Willis picture saying adios.

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    • ltravisjr says:

      The thing people aren’t getting their brains wrapped around is that it is not accurate to describe it as corruption in the government. The corruption *is* the government. What we understand as the proper function of the government doesn’t exist anymore. It’s not something just needing cleaned to function “better”. It *doesn’t* exist. What we have now is functioning as designed according to those running it and they see it as a good. Part of the design is that the citizens still see iour system as constitutional self government. That’s now a veneer and no longer what turns the gears. Perhaps when everything is laid bare that’s what will shake the people to their core.

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      • gsonFIT says:

        You and I have very similar beliefs and I would love to discuss. I happen to think the bureaucracy which I refer to as the apparatchik is the new “Middle Class America” and represents the Shadow Government. Labor market has been exported to emerging markets countries. And former “Middle Class and “Working Class” are being melded into proletariat The Goal of the Deep State (Ultra wealthy and higher end Senior Executive services) is their own private NSA network. Once that is in place it will be next to impossible for proletariat to move up. i.e. digital tyranny. Obama was allowed in because he opened the NSA and 5-eyes to ultra rich. He didn’t have any dollars to join so he started a bunch of wars in ME

        Being proletariat is perfectly fine if that is your choice under God and the dice arent loaded. John Locke had it right

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        • ltravisjr says:

          Yes you put some structure to the general intuition I have on all this. The response to the rise of Trump opened my eyes to the fact that we don’t really control our elections and can’t rely on party. That, and then learning of the ops of the DS, and the naked evidence of the high level actors not even acting panicked as one would if facing exposure for committing the highest crimes – this all turned the light on that they aren’t facing the reprisals of the system because they are the system. I don’t know if things just morphed into where there are now or if was a premeditated strategy. Your explanation suggests it was the latter.

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  15. Justin Green says:

    So at least out of all of this, we will have a clear delineation of where the second tier of the Justice System begins. Sounds like it’s agency heads or above.


  16. omyword says:

    So let me get this straight….. the Court had its copy, (with its stamp) and the DOJ had its copy. Was there a redaction to the DOJ copy that was revealed, or was there something “different” in it? Was the DOJ copy a fabrication?

    My legalease is on the level of my cousin vinny….sooo 🙄

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    • oldumb says:

      if I recall a date was changed by 1 day.


    • Siege Perilous says:

      Fisa court has the original, DOJ should of had a copy and Special Agent Duggan had a copy.

      Duggan changed the date by one day so it could serve as a leak tracer when he personally hand delivered it to Wolfe at the senate.

      It would appear something is awry with the DOJ copy but as no one has ever seen it we do not know that as fact.


  17. Right to reply says:

    I’m going to stick my neck out here, and guess Durham’s helper, is Special Agent Brian Dugan.

    Liked by 2 people

    • corvairfan says:

      It’s a 5X name, but Sundance also said it’s someone never mentioned before.

      I think he retired? I’ll have to recheck that though.

      Liked by 1 person

      • TheWanderingStar says:

        Humm. 5 X’s? it better not be COMEY as in Maurene Comey, AUSA SDNY. Daughter of one James Comey. That would be sick.


      • Right to reply says:

        Dugan is 5, and anger could come about because WE KNOW, Dugan knows what Wolfe did, and WE KNOW Dugan knows the SC buried it. So, if it is Dugan, and nothing happens WE KNOW it ALL dirty cops

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  18. corvairfan says:

    A few people have stated that it came out on Lou Dobbs tonight that someone from Durham’s office stated that Comey, Clapper, and Brennan are no longer targets for prosecution.

    That’s disappointing, is one way of looking at it. But it could be a ruse. And think of all the key names not mentioned…..McCabe, Stryzk, etc etc ……if Durham’s people interviewed Wolfe aggressively and played their cards right, there’s a high likelihood he’d give up Warner or Burr. I’d bet dollars to donuts they told him to leak it, and reassured him after the FBI came knocking.

    If Republican Burr (his phone got seized re his insider trading problem) and Democrat Warner get the old frog march for telling Wolfe to leak and lie (about 5 federal felonies in play there), then it would take a lot of wind out of the sails of the Dems that are claiming partisanship.

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    • gsonFIT says:

      I have also read that these three have already been arrested, tried and imprisoned. which would be mutually exclusive to being a target. So we shall see


  19. WhiteBoard says:

    the public Knowing Wolfe leaked is OKAY for the coup

    the public knowing Wolfe was caught in a Leak Investigation Sting – is not Good for the coup

    Liked by 1 person

    • Newhere says:

      Also not good for coup plotters if the public knows the Carter Page FISA app was circulating in media circles while they all pretended not to have it, as early as 2 months after the start of the Trump Presidency.

      No one seems to have memory capacity further back than a day or so — but the media being caught wholesale pretending not to know something over which there was so much speculation just might furrow a few brows.


  20. jstert says:

    sorry folks, i am lost here. heads on pikes lining the banks of the potomac river i do understand, however. heads.on.pikes.

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  21. gsonFIT says:

    So I think we should all revisit how Mark Warner came to join the Gang of 8. Replacing Dianne Feinstein just in time for Spygate 01/03/2016 . Someone pull his megadata. Who is his NSA agent?


  22. Jeffrey Coley says:

    Dugan taking the irregular step of not obtaining his copy from DOJ indicates he was deliberately avoiding all regular channels because he also suspected leakers at DOJ.

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  23. I noticed in all this that some dots are being left unconnected. ie Lisa Barsoomian and Scotus Roberts. Didn’t Lisa get Hillary off the hook as well as others? John Roberts was in charge of the FISA judges wasn’t he? Are they going to escape unscathed like the infamous IRS pet Lois Lerner who used the deep state tools to destroy the Tea Party?
    Are these rogue corrupt cabal judges going to keep Flynn on the leash until it’s too late to do harm to the deep state? Sundance dig deep and expose all this poison and remove the cancerous tumor before it can destroy our GREAT COUNTRY as we know it. Put on the full armor of God as you prepare for surgery on Friday. The sword(word of God) will be your weapon. We are all hear to cheer you on with prayer as they did when David destroyed goliath. God speed fellow Patriot

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  24. gsonFIT says:

    So here is a video of Sessions and Coats introducing their initiative to stop leaks which includes a counter-intel unit within the FBI to specifically investigate IC leaks. I wonder if this is where Agent Brian Dugan came on the scene, as part of the new CI unit. Jeff Sessions also talks about new subpoenas and I recall the FBI had a delayed notice warrant for her communications. Which means they didn’t have to tell her they were looking at her records


  25. John Schwarz says:

    I’m back to being confused. The fisa court gave agent Dugan a”read and return” copy presumably with no redactions. Did Dugan copy this original copy 3/17/17, covering up the parts he would alter, type in, being careful to use same font and align alterations perfectly on the copy then copy the copy to make everything look xerox’d. Then walk that copy over to SSIC . Dugan then returned the original copy back to FISA court judge? (Read and return?) Next Dugan took his altered copy (fbi equity) and made it part of his case file. Then this altered copy was redacted by Muller and released July 2018. This is the confusing part. The Muller team had an unredacted copy of fisa warrant and dugan’s unredacted? (Fbi equity) with alterations. They had to be identical except for the Dugan alterations meaning Muller team declassification of dugan ‘s fbi equity let Wolfe off the hook except the redacted parts were and still classified !!!!!


  26. Tim Sullivan says:

    AG Barr just said a development in the case will happen Friday. We will see.


  27. tdmd0516 says:

    SD, I have to believe that SSA Dugan is Durham’s lead investigator. Yes?


  28. Clayton Bigsby says:

    Maybe I missed something, but here’s a thought.

    When I have to submit a document to, let’s say, the official body, I call that document, ‘as filed’ as it bears the time-date stamp of the time of filing and is the official document of record. Unless I destroy all drafts and retain just one, final copy from my own office, I may have several copies. If I were to submit one of my drafts inadvertently, which might differ from the one actually filed, the reviewing body might deem that indicia of intentional deception.

    Could it be that Dugan was simply trying to make sure what gets produced is the copy of the version actually submitted?


  29. ampurdy123 says:

    Brian Dugan appears to be doing well.. Here is his Linked Profile…


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