Common Sense and Human Interface – Georgia Governor Brian Kemp Announces Phased Reopening of Business Starting This Week…

As Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announces the reopening of various sectors of the state economy, perhaps a rather obvious point needs to be highlighted….

There are few high-traffic businesses more densely populated than grocery stores.  In fact, within the U.S. economy retail supermarkets have the highest foot traffic of any business sector in the entire economy; that’s just an empirical fact…. and the coronavirus impact increased that foot traffic by an average of 40 percent.  Now, stop and think about this logically & apply a large dose of common sense. Think about human-to-human interface.

♦First, with approximately 90 percent of the total U.S. population penetrating through grocery outlets; and with 100% of that massive number of consumers going through checkout lanes; if the COVID-19 viral strain was as significant as claimed by the worst-case data, then supermarket cashiers would have been the highest exposed profession of U.S. workers in the entire nation.  There wouldn’t even be a close second place.

Considering that metric; and considering the overall population penetration & density within the business operation; there has not been an employee-based business disruption due to the coronavirus.  Put another way: the coronavirus has not stopped the function of the highest human interface occupation in the entire U.S. economy.

♦Secondly, think about the businesses that are closed; perhaps think about your job that may have been shut down…. now frame your risk based on the supermarket example as highest human interface and highest population penetration in any business field.

If the #1 at risk industry has operated, essentially without disruption and with almost zero substantive mitigation, while carrying the largest population exposure rate, then all other less-exposed business operations would have significantly less operational risk.

Why would anyone be concerned about opening their business?

If you take the factual outcome of the retail food industry as a measure, it would follow that other than a few proximity businesses which may need prudent modifications or remain temporarily closed (ex. modified airplane seating, concerts, stadiums or capacity seating venues etc), then all other businesses should immediately resume operations.

No other business segment within the economy is as exposed to the population as the retail food business; and yet supermarkets operated without issue.

So why shouldn’t all businesses immediately get back to work?

Perhaps a few initial modifications might be needed; but not much, and not for long.

Think about it….

GEORGIA – Gov. Brian Kemp announced on Monday a series of social distancing guidelines that will allow businesses such as gyms, hair salons, tattoo parlors, and bowling alleys to reopen on Friday. By next week, movie theaters will be allowed to start showing films, and restaurants will be allowed to have limited dine-in service options in addition to the takeout orders they had been limited to before the order.

“In the same way that we carefully closed businesses and urged operations to end to mitigate the virus’s spread, today we’re announcing plans to incrementally and safely reopen sectors of our economy,” Kemp said.

State Rep. David Clark, a Republican, said he hoped other states followed Georgia’s lead, saying, “If we continue on the path we are headed down, we will totally destroy not only the U.S. economy but also the world economy.”  (read more)

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Let’s go….

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346 Responses to Common Sense and Human Interface – Georgia Governor Brian Kemp Announces Phased Reopening of Business Starting This Week…

  1. kathy says:

    A friend says the WaPo and USA Today have reported grocery store checkers contracting and dying from the virus. Of course Sundance’s point goes to no shutdown of the industry with a high rate of exposure to the public.

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    • old white guy says:

      wapo and usa today sure are sources to be believed. sarc/

      Liked by 4 people

    • Mike says:

      Of course they are. You can also find them dying choking on food or dying while driving their silver and black Nissan Altimas if one bothered to look. No cause to ban driving. A lot of people get hit buy 18 wheelers too. 4136 in 2018. It’s a dangerous world.

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      The WaPo and USA Today writers to the rescue of the narrative. Why else report the story of dying grocery store clerks unless someone else was going to try and use that for a positive message?

      And, I’d like to ask the WaPo and USA Today writers to compare and contrast the # of grocery store clerks that 1. Came down with COVID, and 2. Died from COVID with the same data form people who were forced out of work. I’m guessing the # is worse for those forced out of work.

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    • dutzie60 says:

      So were those grocery stores closed down and fumigated from top to bottom and all the other employees put in a 14 day quarantine?
      Those grocery stores would be closed for a mighty long time if you ask me.

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  2. kathy says:

    A friend says the WaPo and USA Today have reported grocery store checkers contracting and dying from the virus. Of course Sundance’s point goes to no shutdown of the industry with a high rate of exposure to the public.

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    • OW21 says:

      Kathy – tell your friend “baloney” and then make him/her show you the exact stores where this has happened and the exact cause of the deaths…WaPo and USA Today? Please….

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      • Kaco says:

        Previous page, Sentient linked to a few articles…

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      • botchedcasuality says:

        Kroegers made a statement last week that three employees had succumbed to the virus.
        There was no mention of age, health, or gender.

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      • The Demon Slick says:

        The deaths are real, the Lie is that they’re reporting the deaths out of context. There are hundreds of millions of grocery store workers. A very very small percentage of them have actually died. Like a handful. The reporting makes it sound like an epidemic.

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        • MightyConservative says:

          Hundreds of MILLIONS? We are a nation of 320M. I sure hope you are referencing international numbers. Do you have a link to your “handful” numbers information?

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          • old white guy says:

            If the number can be believed, and doubt it can based on what the medical profession was told to do here in America, 170,000 people have died world wide. Please compare that with 2018 when 3,177,204 died from the seasonal flu.

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      • DCBOY says:

        Statistically speaking it is not unreasonable to conclude that some grocery store employees are and or were infected. In fact here in Broward County, Fl it was reported that a couple were infected. However, before the report of employee infection, social distancing was not practiced within the stores, the employees did not wear masks, and shields were not placed at the registers. The point I take-away is the only panic at the grocery store attributable to this global “mass event” is a fear of a toilet paper shortage.

        For that matter, the visit to the grocery store is much more organized, less crowded and the products are readily available. In many respects it is an improvement when contrasted against the “old norm”.

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      • Heine Ootenvault says:

        A little anecdotal but our local Safeway we asked if anyone got sick, and no one even got the virus. It serves an old population also.

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    • guidvce4 says:

      Keep in mind that is the WAPO and USA Today. Are they part of the MSM media? And do they cite the studies, if any, or is just scuttlebutt?
      Think about it.

      Liked by 5 people

    • hokkoda says:

      They’re supporting the state government narratives in places like PA where the governor has ordered people to not be admitted to the store if they don’t wear a mask. More narrative engineering.

      It’s like when the government wanted young people to obey orders, and the media dutifully started running reports about young people getting sick from CV19 all over the place. It was transparently bad propaganda.

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      • MfM says:

        I can’t wear a mask and live in PA. If you read the decree towards the end it says if you can’t they have to allow you in grocery stores.

        Because of this new rule, I went out and did what they call non essential shopping this weekend. So instead of waiting a couple of weeks, I did it now. Dumb, stupid rule. Anyone who has been following the numbers can see the virus is going down. So let’s crank up more rules that won’t make a difference.

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        • hokkoda says:

          My mom lives in Bethlehem. I told her to let me know when she is ready to escape PA. She can’t go to VA which is just as bad. I’ll move her out here to the Free Zone.

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    • mbartow2gmailcom says:

      Who cares- people die it’s part of life,
      wife is cashier at HD in S FLA
      Store is jammed with old folks buying flowers and crap they don’t need-
      Carry on and rely on the best Govt in the world
      Your own little economic/ Family unit-
      Big Gov can’t save jack

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    • mbartow2gmailcom says:

      Who cares- people die it’s part of life,
      wife is cashier at HD in S FLA
      Store is jammed with old folks buying flowers and crap they don’t need-
      Carry on and rely on the best Govt in the world
      Your own little economic/ Family unit-
      Big Gov can’t save jack

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    • mbartow2gmailcom says:

      Who cares- people die it’s part of life,
      wife is cashier at HD in S FLA
      Store is jammed with old folks buying flowers and crap they don’t need-
      Carry on and rely on the best Govt in the world
      Your own little economic/ Family unit-
      Big Gov can’t save jack

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    • Billh34 says:

      In the real world, that data, good or bad, would be available and used to save lives. The worst part of this is the death of public health as a respectable field.

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  3. A2 says:

    I’ve read every case study of confirmed or asymptomatic covid-19 in Hong Kong. Not one was grocery store or gaisee employee. Yesterday, we had zero cases confirmed. Discharges from hospital are double hospitalsations. Still only four deaths. Hope it holds today, 21 April. 🙏

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    • alligatriot says:

      Fantastic news on zero cases yesterday!
      Fingers crossed for the future.

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    • A2 says:

      Yes indeed. Not by mandate but because the people experienced SARS and bird flu. Government run services like the Post Office and Hospitals and clinics require a mask to enter and a temperature check (also a disinfectant mat, can’t forget the shoes).

      In the grocery and wet markets, small sundry shops called si-doors, all employees wear masks and gloves with hand sanitisers on the counter for customers to use. And of course the customers wear masks. If you didn’t you would get the evil eye. 🤣

      Thank goodness Hong Kong (also Vietnam, Taiwan and Singapore) ignored the fumbling WHO and in January all used their experience learned from SARS to mitigate and contain the covid-19. They also knew that PRC was lying and covering up as they did previously.

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      • A2 says:

        I have posted some of the mitigation and containment measures previously, but I can go into great detail if anyone wants to know what was and is still being done. Having said that, the Hong Kong people deserve much credit. No whinging and whining. Also because of the people putting in good practices it wasn’t necessary for draconian measures like you are seeing in some states. There are some restrictions that are sensible. Hong Kong is densely populated and the majority of people use public transport as only the well off can afford to operate private vehicles. Also no detached houses except in the NT and outlying islands due to the indigenous people small house policy. Most people live in huge high rise housing estates with very little space for recreation.

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    • A Call for Honesty says:

      What does the word “gaisee” mean? Is it a transliteration of a Cantonese word?

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  4. 335blues says:

    GO GO GO! The American people are ready. In fact, we have had enough of the shut down.
    Thank GOD I don’t live in a state run by the marxist democrat party where supposed
    “representatives” saw their opportunity to become the tyrants they always dreamed of being.
    Let those blue states destroy themselves while the red states burn rubber off of the start line
    and get our economy roaring back.
    It’s time to be America again.

    Liked by 11 people

    • buzzybee says:

      Every blue state (and I’m in one) has some little red Trump supporters living in them. (And I am one along with some friends.) I do not want my state destroyed to prove someone’s point about how bad Dem leadership is. We already are well aware that destructive public policy of the blues gives us all the blues.

      Please remember there are good red (conservative patriots) Trump supporters in blue states. We are just outnumbered.

      Liked by 13 people

      • Deb says:

        Your state was being destroyed before this pandemic. Stand up and fight for freedom. Take a cue from another blue state resident who risked his business and even his life to fight back against tyranny. I’m talking about PDJT.

        Liked by 2 people

        • botchedcasuality says:

          Upvote yo you, wordpress has me in upvote jail.

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        • buzzybee says:

          Have been doing so for over 20 years. PDJT inspires and gives me ideas. Of course, it gets harder during senior citizen years. And I’m well aware of what’s been happening in my state since I’ve been quite active for a long time. If I hadn’t been, I wouldn’t have discovered this site. I discovered it thru grassroots action with other fighters.

          But thanks for the advice anyway.

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  5. Todd says:

    “If the #1 at risk industry has operated, essentially without disruption and with almost zero substantive mitigation, while carrying the largest population exposure rate, then all other less-exposed business operations would have significantly less operational risk.”

    “No other business segment within the economy is as exposed to the population as the retail food business; and yet supermarkets operated without issue.

    So why shouldn’t all businesses immediately get back to work?”

    —-> THAT is simply genius! sundance, that was a Grand Slam!

    I’ve worked in the food industry for over 20 years, own a small sub shop in Buffalo, NY and come in close contact with hundreds of people every week. In soon to be 15 years in business, I’ve gotten sick 1 time and got over it in about 4 days.

    I would like to stress how important the human immune system is in all of this.

    The human immune system is the greatest weapon humanity has against a virus. A lot of people that have or had “Covid-19” never even knew they had it. Why? Because their immune systems were armed and ready. Stay strong and healthy! Eat your vitamins and say your prayers as Hulk Hogan used to say. Eat your veggies, and make sure you get at least 15 minutes of sunlight a day to boost your natural vitamin D levels. I drink a quarter gallon of orange juice fortified with vitamin D every day. I also drink a lot of “Body Armor” that is high in Zinc. The Orange Mango is incredible! That being said…

    Sitting on our asses every day unable to work and be productive is going to kill millions of people and the economy too. Every day that passes makes us weaker, not stronger.

    President Trump, please end this craziness tomorrow. Shock the world and surprise everyone. I wouldn’t even call it a gamble, I’d call it a logical, reasonable, great decision to make. Call the shot heard around the world and watch the MSM go into complete meltdown!

    Liked by 25 people

    • Seneca the Elder says:

      Todd- thanks for a GREAT post.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Todd, you should post the name of your business, man. Some of us may even order some stuff from you.

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    • Howard says:

      I looked at the COVID-19 virus as an engineer. It became pretty obvious after mid-March that this whole thing was way over blown. Why? Only answer I come up with is overzealous medical researchers. I plotted total cases and total new cases on a daily basis for each state. It was apparemt the number of cases woulo never come close by multiples to the flu pandemics. Even today the Flu virus accounts for more cases and deaths than the COVID-19. It is the economy – STUPID and not ther virus.
      So many ridiculous rules have been set up that are meaningless. Fresh air and sunshine kill the COVID; but people are ordered to stay in-dooors … do not get nearer than 6 feet to anyone. No more running or walking in a public park in some states. Dr. offices closed, along with physical therapy facilities. Dental offices, Yet, grocery stores are open and customers file down aisles to shop. Clerks at che out do not seem to be contacting the virus in any number to run up a red flag.
      This is a MEDICAL PANDEMIC that never was; but an ECONOMIC PANDEMIC that is strangling and destroying our Nation. The Demos do not seem to mind – it hurts Trum … therefore is is good!

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      • kiswa15 says:

        Yes it was intended to hurt Trump but it also more importantly was intended to keep Biden in a studio, not campaigning in person.
        Before the big “pandemic shutdown” Biden was threatening voters at campaign events, biting Jill’s finger, and trailing in the polls, now he’s the nominee being shuffled around on camera with a handler by his side.
        This was about controlling the optics for Biden, dragging this out through the summer so there could be no rallies before the convention, and then demanding no in person voting in key swing states.
        The Teflon Don is fine…The hype was to keep Creepy Uncle Joe from imploding before he could be installed and then to cheat their way to The Whitehouse, and by “they” I mean the Benghazi Witch & Co.
        Justice better come and soon .

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    • nats1mom says:

      ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ !!!!!!!

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  6. john says:

    Cut that out, Sundance! We can’t tolerate common sense and logical thinking these days. There’s just no place for that any more. Please self-report to the nearest Re-education Center before I have to take a picture of you and send it in to the Directorate Council.

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  7. California Joe says:

    Exactly! If this overblown flu dumpster fire was seriously deadly and contagious supermarket clerks and cashiers would be dropping like flies especially when you consider that none of them had surgical masks until this week!

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    • vikingmom says:

      My son works at Trader Joe’s and they instituted no major changes for the first couple of weeks and only stared limiting customers a few weeks ago and then started wearing masks this past week…and not one person at his store has gotten sick, as far as I know! They have always been cognizant of good hand washing and not touching their faces…could it really be as simple as that for 98% of the population?

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      • dayallaxeded says:

        98%! This exactly! Even the symptomatic have been pretty consistently testing 98% negative. And those tested are a very small % off the total populace. We’re being fear mongered, virtue signaled, propagandized to act as if maybe 1% are the whole enchilada. This idiocy actually diminishes resources for that 1% in actual need. Makes no sense except as a political/economic plandemic to f-over the majority citizenry.

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      • dayallaxeded says:

        98%! This exactly! Even the symptomatic have been pretty consistently testing 98% negative. And those tested are a very small % off the total populace. We’re being fear mongered, virtue signaled, propagandized to act as if maybe 1% are the whole enchilada. This idiocy actually diminishes resources for that 1% in actual need. Makes no sense except as a political/economic plandemic to f-over the majority citizenry.

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      • oldumb says:

        I, sadly, have been working at Walmart for the last 2 weeks. My business is gone and grocery was essential so I went to work for $11.50 per hour. There is no hand sanitizer or water to wash hands other than the bathrooms, which are not quickly accessible to employees.

        I have been working in the on-line grocery where people pick up groceries. It is crazy busy. We work in the back room aisle, and are crowded together We all handle the same totes over and over, the same carts and electronic equipment and telephone. We have no one getting sick. I have been saying it for 2 weeks, if Walmart employees are not dropping dead there is no pandemic.

        I got fired because I refused to wear a face mask. #1 they come out of a box that others stick their hands in. (ummm, covid much). #2 Everyone that uses them are constantly touching their face. #3 the mask do not remain sanitary and are at your face for 8 hours. #4 it is NOT an airborne virus. #5 it is MOSTLY a symbol of FEAR to help indoctrinate the masses.

        No gloves, no sanitizer, no social distancing and no illness, but big virtue signaling with a useless mask. Akin to closing the parks while subways run. Dystopian hell.

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        • TreeClimber says:

          Every employee at our local Walmart has been issued a mask. I could count on one hand the number of employees wearing theirs – and even fewer actually had them over their noses.

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        • Kaco says:

          Where have they actually ruled out it is not airborne? Last I remember Treepers were posting the videos, one from a South Korean doctor, who explained not just coughing, but yelling and talking lets out the droplets that they have tested.

          There was that Nebraska study that was able to detect the virus in the air outside the patient rooms in the hallway.

          I’d like to see how many of us are walking around with antibodies to this thing.

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          • mdaush says:

            Doctors from all over are saying that viruses are actually cells in our own body that are exuding toxins that we accumulate over time. This is why it hurts people with multiple underlying conditions who get no exercise, no fresh air, no sunlight and are overloaded with dangerously toxic drugs, Google Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. shiva, dr. Tenpenny.
            You’ll see it all in a different manner after listening to one of them.

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          • oldumb says:

            It isn’t airborne, but yes if you come into contact with spittle, that is bad. But it isn’t floating down the hall to get you. It is from contact, and spittle on surfaces count. So the mask is very mildly helpful. Gloves would be much more helpful -IF people used them and changed them properly, but they don’t.

            Masks are a symbol of FEAR that enhances the fear mongering narrative and is a visual report of the fear monger’s success.

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          • Mac says:

            Technically, COVID, like influenza, is not an airborne disease. An airborne disease is where the disease itself travels on the air. COVID travels, from the infected host, on droplets of water or particulate matter which are exhaled. This limits the spread somewhat. It can also be picked up from contaminated surfaces. It requires contact with mucus membranes or open wounds to be contracted. COVIXD is classified as as an aerosol or particulate disease.

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        • vikingmom says:

          I am so sorry – that sounds awful but it sure does prove the point that if it isn’t already running wild through grocery store workers it isn’t going to run wild if we reopen the country!

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          • buzzybee says:

            What I don’t understand then is how it ran so wild in other places (epicenter in China, Italy, New York, New Jersey). And many people became seriously ill, although recovered, and many died.

            Not trying to be argumentative, but pondering this as it all doesn’t make sense to me. I wonder about climate, and other things.

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            • Deb says:

              People in China are exposed to levels of pollution that damage even the healthiest lungs.

              They also don’t wash their hands as much as they should.

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            • TheOtherSean says:

              The NYC area is one of the most densely populated areas in the United States, and has extremely heavy transit usage. People get crammed into subway cars like sardines in a can, literally standing cheek to jowl when the subway is at its most crowded. NJ Transit and Metro-North trains to NYC have a bit more room, but their riders often hop the subway to their ultimate destination in NYC.

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          • oldumb says:

            I agree, but I expect 2 or 3 or more spikes that were delayed with our massive measures. I hope we don’t freak out after every one.

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        • botchedcasuality says:

          Upvote yo you, wordpress has me in upvote jail.

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          • oldumb says:

            Thanks! It happens to me sporadically. I think it is when they update their code, until it is all rolled out. I could be 100% wrong.

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    • Todd says:

      I was “ordered” to wear a “mask” this week by Il Duce, Andrew Cuomo. So I wrapped my face in toilet paper and the customers got a kick out of it. Quite funny.

      What is not funny is how people are wearing these surgical masks every day that are getting loaded up with bacteria every breath they take and use them on a daily basis.

      Then they put the mask on before entering the grocery store (which is now mandated in New York) load their hands up with bacteria after touching their frequently worn mask and enter the grocery store.

      At the same time, our political “leaders” tell us not to leave our homes. “Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop The Spread” read the signs on the highway. But study after study says it is best for people to be outside. People figured that out in 1918. Sunlight is a natural disinfectant.

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  8. alligatriot says:

    Any death for any reason is a tragedy.

    There may be more to these stories.

    The linked item says deaths were Covid-19 related but there is no information, except for one, whether there may have been other health issues.

    FTA: “A Trader Joe’s employee with underlying health conditions died of Covid-19 early Monday morning, spokeswoman Kenya Friend-Daniel said.”

    In addition, later in the article, a 27-yr old WalMart greeeter had cerebral palsy when she contracted Covid-19.

    Yes, there have been deaths of grocery and retail personnel. How many are FROM Covid-19? Unknown.

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  9. icthematrix says:

    I have been saying this for weeks. On social media, I try to politely counter the crazed panicked people who insist on keeping everything as shut down, hunkered down, as possible. My point is simply this; everyone has to eat, and nearly everyone goes to the grocery store. There is no greater place for exposure risk at multiple levels, yet people go. Essential businesses (including mine) have been operating for weeks now, functioning and working, with generally little to no disruption. Yes there have been outbreaks at some facilities like the meat packing/processing plants. I blame that on poor practices by the employees, perhaps lax conditions, who knows? Businesses can operate and manage sanitation/distancing easily enough. Restaurants, personal services, hospitals with elective procedures, etc. Thank you governors of Georgia and Tennessee. Everyone else….let’s roll!

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    • Deb says:

      Our local plant has an outbreak. The conditions aren’t lax, I know people who work there. The problem is proximity, it’s impossible not to work closely together and the shifts are long. This virus is everywhere, there’s no avoiding it. Distancing simply prolongs the inevitable, that we will all be infected eventually.

      We knew it was coming, I’m surprised it took as long as it did. Luckily most of the people infected are doing well.

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  10. Snellvillebob says:

    You cannot trust Fake News

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  11. dd_sc says:

    Limited opening of South Carolina beaches and business –

    https://www.wyff4.com/article/gov-henry-mcmaster-to-reopen-retail-stores-on-tuesday-reports-say/32208381

    Public boat ramps opened last Friday.

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  12. MTeresa says:

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  13. Markelito M says:

    PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST SIGNS EXECUTIVE ORDER TO SUSPENT IMMIGRATION IN THE UNITED STATES.

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  14. Doug Amos says:

    President Trump was probably reacting to Al Sharpton’s charge that he was “pouring salt on open wombs”.

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  15. Tony says:

    Sundance – Kudos on an incredibly obvious statement. Sometimes it takes genius to see it. Adding to your list of stores – Lowes, Home Depot, Menard’s, any home improvement store I’ve seen has been packed..

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    • buzzybee says:

      Our local Lowes in western Oregon was busy a few days ago, but they are adamant about social distancing and patrons are abiding pretty well. They’ve shortened open hours and cut staff. It wasn’t packed, but very busy. I think it will get busier though and become packed.

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  16. hokkoda says:

    Colorado lifting the stay at home “orders” on 4/26. It was never really as heavy handed here. I got my snow tires changed, got takeout just about anywhere we wanted, even able to go to Best Buy where they brought my iPad Pro out to me.

    As states reopen, the pressure will be on the northeast corridor to reopen. They’ll lose businesses, and they’ll lose citizens, over this. You can’t tax stuff that leaves and never returns.

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  17. Doug Amos says:

    President Trump is draining the swamp right now by putting professional athletes, entertainers, fraud experts, fools who believe enough dinosaurs could have died to create the oil fields and politicians out of business, Take a look at the exterior of his properties and you will be able to guess what his next move is going to be.

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  18. Peoria Jones says:

    Thank you, Sundance. Now that we’ve had some time to assess the situation, it’s clear that the risk is minimal. They’re still packing in like sardines at my store, and nobody diagnosed with WuFlu after months of this madness. No employees wear a mask or gloves (except when processing food).

    My biggest risk is the workload, and my employers taking advantage. They could have implemented some changes early on to help us out and provide a measure of safety, but it’s too late now. My friend’s store has made some changes to protect employees and customers, but nothing drastic. They have also provided extra pay. They seem to care about their workforce.

    Like I’ve said from the beginning, none of this makes any sense. Oh – and in case no one is aware, groceries and markets are about the dirtiest places you can be. Sometimes I think working in one actually helps to build up immunity to a lot of things. Wash your hands, folks!

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  19. TMonroe says:

    “if the COVID-19 viral strain was as significant as claimed by the worst-case data, then supermarket cashiers would have been the highest exposed profession of U.S. workers in the entire nation.”

    As we saw people go back and forth like normal on that front but didn’t see body bags piling up, it was clear (as if it wasn’t already) that we weren’t talking Ebola or even some of the more aggressive viral strains as far as mortality rates but were getting close to comparable seasonal numbers. Which is why the $2 trillion and the continuing to give Fauci etc the reins and mike as things didn’t open up was so horrible. Unforced errors with devastating consequences.

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  20. hawkins6 says:

    “…if the COVID-19 viral strain was as significant as claimed by the worst-case data, then supermarket cashiers would have been the highest exposed profession of U.S. workers in the entire nation.” Almost exactly what I, a cashier and another woman customer at a “safe distance” were saying today. I’m not kidding.

    I shopped in a mega grocery that was not restricting entry but it had many people widely scattered throughout it. The cashier’s “safety measures” included protecting them with a high semi circular plexiglass wall with a small opening for the debit machine only. There was a plastic bag only policy and the bags could be taken by the customer from a pile near the end of the conveyor. The next customer was kept well back of the area until the 1st customer had left. It wasn’t that bad and it seemed to protect the cashier’s quite well. Washing their hands etc would be most important to them.

    I agree with sundance that if they can protect their cashiers during a steady rush of customers other closed businesses could definitely do the same. Some Dem Governors with their silly, unjust, idiotic prohibitions seem to be encouraging an economic disaster to get P Trump. I haven’t heard the virus is airborne (more than the “social distance”) or that it can be transmitted via the building supply and exhaust fan systems otherwise the plexiglass would be ineffective and customers would be inhaling the virus.

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  21. amwick says:

    I am in GA,,, and we watched the Gov… He said that local authorities could not exceed the state restrictions, and yet our little county still has closed parks… No one here protests, many people just cross over to the friendlier neighbors, NC and use their parks for walks.. Overall I think he has been doing a pretty good job, much better than many other Governors.

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  22. WSB says:

    We do not yet have our NYS required masks after ordering them on April 6th, but need to replenish.

    Absolutely exhausted as I write this!

    I may have a more detailed list of items tomorrow as I go through canned things, but Taller Half and I went on our first food shopping spree today, after being in the house since April 3rd…I think. Or maybe March 27th. Will need to check tomorrow.

    This started two weeks ago by trying to order groceries online with another local store and Amazon. All rejected us or had crazy leadtimes. Stumbled onto our local store we do not use very much as it is about 25 minutes away…store called Hannaford.

    Their website works really well until you place your order.

    Last Thursday, I clicked on all of the items…$279. They had no toilet paper, Kleenex or Charmin on line. Went to place the order. They are only taking 24 hours prior to the reservation for curbside pick up. No luck. All slots taken.

    Called store. Advised to try early morning at midnight. Tried Friday, Saturday. No luck. Sunday night I waited until the time struck on the computer. At 12:00:05 I got a slot between 5 and 6 PM Monday. As a note, they have a box to check for substitutions, either all or click whichever needs to be a prime brand. This will be important. Also called the store before we arrived today. Was able to add items to the list. They HAVE Kleenex, Charmin and Bounty and will,add to the order. SCORE!!!!!

    Well in all, a very efficient and pleasant event at Hannaford’s. We told them we would leave the check in the back of the car. Arrived to a numbered parking space. Parking space has the procedure on the sign. Phone number and protocol. You give the attendant your parking space number.

    Called the store to tell we have arrived. Wrote the check out. They wanted no tipping. They told us the price… $187. Hmmm. Knew there would be a lot missing. Person on phone agreed, and said we could correct that by checking back (or allowing substitutions? Hmmmm).

    Put the check on the back of the floor bed, after pushing the button for the tailgate. Attendant then arrives, fills everything up in back as we are all chatting. Transaction done! Took ten minutes there and two hours developing a saved shopping list. We have no idea what we have and are missing. Fine.

    So, subsequently, there were a lot of meats – ground sirloin, a Sugardale ham, and full boneless chicken breasts, smoked salmon – missing. Also, sliced and gourmet cheeses missing. Compari Tomatoes, one head of cabbage, other fresh vegetables. Did receive broccolini and sugar snap peas. Also, I asked for two units of one dozen eggs. I received one unit of one dozen and one unit of 18? 24? What ever the next size is. This tells me they may be running out of the smaller portions. Or a mistake.

    Also, I believe we received more of the items we wanted when I checked the box for substitutions. Obviously they are pushing their own brands.

    Will more accurately review and send updates if I have any more info about the service and missing products tomorrow.

    Then Taller Half is craving Veal Franchese. I am craving pizza. Bad, but what to do?

    One of my clients is the owner of an Italian restaurant on the way home, and I know they are doing curbside. We call from the Hannaford parking lot… one large pizza uncut (will handle at home), one order of Veal Franchese with angel hair, no salad, and one pint of bolognese.

    Perfect. Bill is $42. We put $60 cash in the back of the car, ask for a ten back. I rearrange the Hannaford bags with plastic on my hands to create space, and then we show up to the store front. One of the usual employees comes out and transacts from the back.

    We crave all the way home. Oregano and sausage!

    Short of it is, We pull into the garage. I send Taller Half upstairs after we both wash hands.

    I first take care of the Italian takeout. Bring down a tray and pizza pan to the garage. With plastic, I open the pizza box. Remove plastic bag with inside accessible. With raw fingers only, I slide pizza onto the pizza pan. Then with plastic bag back on hand, I discard the pizza box into the recycle bin. All other food items go on the tray. Run up to the kitchen. Completely repackage all food items with small portion paper towels handling all of the original containers. Throw all containers and paper towels out, freezing the bread and knots, refrigerating the entree, cut the pizza and freeze by the home made slices.

    We will not eat any of this tonight until I freeze and reheat in oven or stove.

    All of the rest of the Hannaford items are processed in freezer or refrigerator by dry wiping in the garage and any packaging that can come off, does. I place the cleaned items on the tray and repeat. Raspberries all removed from package, washed and completely dried top and bottom, placed in new container.

    Took me until 8:30 and the canned goods are still in the brown bags we received at the grocery pickup.

    We had hot dogs at 9:30 tonight.

    C’ést tout!!!!! Wow!

    I know this is definitely overkill…but until we know how much of a false flag this is, I will continue for safety sake.

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    • Payday says:

      Wow!

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      • noswamp says:

        I stopped reading WSB halfway down, but very interesting. Eyes are heavy my friend. Good job and great scores! Now tell me how to get Lysol spray or generic.

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        • randyinrocklin says:

          Just get some alcohol and dilute with a bit of water. Pour into atomizer and spray.

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        • WSB says:

          Just thought I should post the recap! Only if anyone is interested!

          With all that is going on and obviously more important pressing concerns, here is the short version post report of my first experience with Hannaford’s online/ curbside grocery shopping on Monday.

          Had a nice conversation with the home shopper after two hours of completing can unpacking, receipt and substitution review and creating a duplicate list for the items we did not receive. Inkept the first lis intact ro replenish and break apart in the future.

          A. We were missing 28 items from our 58 item list.
          B. We had about 12 items subbed with store brand
          C. We had only 3 prepackaged meat items out of a request for 8, same for fresh veggies

          Upon asking the home shopper how to navigate for next time, here are her tips:

          A. Understanding that time slots can only be accessed right after midnight for the next day, try to limit the amount of items. The list I had would normally be a two-day shopping event considering the high number of requests. The curbside navigating is so efficient, we will break our shopping down into two pieces.

          B. The store is limiting the number of items depending on a few factors of supply. Some items like Progresso Soups have not been replenished. They have a truck delivery every day from the warehouse, but they cannot replenish all items all the time and do not kmow what they will be getting on any particular day.

          C. Use any write-in instructions you can. Even if you do not click a box for substitution, notes on each item asking for size, style or vendor subs will allow them to shop better for you. They are having trouble with people not liking the substitutes they receive, so they are in a quandry about that part of the service.

          D. After your order is logged in and you have a time slot, you can call the store and they will add forgotton items, or like my experience, I was able to add toilet paper, Kleenex, and Paper towels verbally. These were not available on line. This is how they control inventory.

          The staff has been very helpful, so after an odd start, I have my supplemental list ready, and will probably organize our next trip after the weekend.

          Phew!

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    • navysquid says:

      Stay Strong in the face of the enemy, WSB!

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      • WSB says:

        Indeed, ns!!!! And thank you for your service and being the strongest!

        We are laughing at the stupidity of all of all of this! And I have yet to don a mask anywhere.

        🙏🇺🇸👍❤️

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    • botchedcasuality says:

      WSB are you immune compromised?
      I’d rather catch COVID and wear my immunity antibodies with pride, I want to get out and volunteer.

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  23. Everybody thinks they are an MD MPH nowadays. Even Rush Limbaugh.

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  24. Perot Conservative says:

    San Luis Obispo County in California getting back to work on the Central Coast.

    Only 260,000 population, 120 infections?, and 1 CV death.

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  25. US says:

    Place all our elderly in old people homes on hydroxy-Chloroquine. It is a safe drug that serves as a prophylactic so you do no catch the Chinese thing.

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  26. red rooster 1776 says:

    Imagining the heinousness that Stacy “lard-bucket” Abrams would have unleashed upon us, I am ever so thankful that Kemp prevailed, despite his failure to recognize the Loeffler liability imposed by her snake oil “husband” or the fact that asymptomatics can (and do) carry and transmit covid-19.

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  27. mrbzoe says:

    Thank you! I have been saying this from the beginning. What disturbs me mostly and not sure why there are not more articles discussing is the testing aspect. Why does PT keep pushing the testing as laid out in the 3 phases to reopen? Why is Governor Kemp even entertaining the pushing for testing to get back to work? When you so nicely laid it out that all this time the grocery stores have been open and NOT tested and are still going strong. Why should we be forced to test and then monitored by who?? The tests have not been very accurate and have had positive results when in fact it was a negative. Also what is up with temperature checking? Why is PT still listening to the CDC, Farce and Scarf? Why is there not an investigation into the truth of what is really COVID 19? How seriously threat it is? How is it really transmitted? Where is the healthy debate of what is the best cure?

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  28. mrbzoe says:

    Thank you! I have been saying this from the beginning. Which leads me to many other questions I have regarding the pushing of the tests in the 3 phase plan to reopen America by PT. If the
    Grocery stores, gas stations, supply chain, and other essential services have been functioning without testing and they are all still going strong-why do the rest of us who want to get back to work need to be subjected to testing? Especially since the test has not been accurate. Also why is PT still listening to the CDC, Farce and Scarf? Why is there not an investigation into what is really COVID 19? How is it really transmitted? What is the best cure or cures? Why were the models so far off? When you read the 3 phases-who exactly will be making the health decisions? if it is started- when does it end? Does it expand into other health issues? Just seems to be another big government over reach into the citizens lives. Just a lot of questions.

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  29. Just need to say, we live in Georgia and this insanity has got my wife more fired up than anything I’ve seen. I’m normally the fired up one among us. And she tells me to relax. But this has been different. She has been pissed and posting stuff on Gov. Kemp’s Facebook page to open everything up.

    She’s even taking to arguing with the fear-mongers. Never seen her like this before. Not sure what to make of it in the overall scheme of the political picture. But man, it’s fun to see!

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  30. cja says:

    That deaths are low among food market employees is an interesting analogy and probably true. My town has had no deaths, and only a few in neighboring towns.

    But, two people have died from Covid who worked at grocery stores here
    One was a lady, 53, and she worked in the Whole Foods kitchen. She died five days ago. It was the second death in her city. It will be awful if she spread it to customers with improper food prep.

    The first person worked at both Market Basket and Walmart. Sounds like a part-timer with two jobs. There’s no info on his death accept the employees demanded a pay raise afterwards

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  31. Rick says:

    Nice observation. And in grocery stores potentially positive covid19 carriers are picking up packages, produce, fruits to examine labels, or freshness, even squeezing to check for ripeness or smelling for it. Covid-19 is likely widely spread all over our food products and then transferred from hand to carts, to credit cards and to that itch on your nose. Then you get home with this stuff and door to door your house is a veritable Covid 19 gas station.

    Last night Tucker shared some good research indication virtually no picks up viruses outside, most are picked up right in your home emanating from inside confined spaces like buildings.

    This quarantine measures employed today highlight something far deeper. This is all about the Vaxxing agenda. The Vaxxers, Bill Gates who has offered the NIH under Dr. Fauci 2 billion dollars if his pharma company is awarded the job is behind Fauci’s efforts to prolong the virus until the vaccine is ready.

    The liberals were gleefully happy to embrace the Chinese after it was known the virus was released in Wuhan. Nancy Pelosi was over there in China town cozying up to them while condemning Trump for stopping International flights from China.

    When the Dems discovered through antibody tests that the virus had long been here and done little if any harm to the majority they panicked. They tried to change the narrative about the antibody tests meaning we should go back to work, and school and life as it was because we are well on our way to the very best form of herd immunity which has always been natural. Now the democratic governors are promoting contact tracing and doling out badges of honor to those found with the antibodies. Check a county in Montana to see this op already beginning like a cancer.

    The truth of the matter is, and this is well documented. Most of those getting hit hard by Covid-19 are simply deficient in Vitamin D and or zinc. You will find most of them are fat. A search on the internet into Dr. Fauci’s NIH easily reveals vitamin D deficiency is common through out the world. Zinc deficiency is common in the elderly. Dark skinned people are severely deficient in the USA. The elderly are also known to be deficient. NIH studies abound detailing the effects on D and Zinc in preventing viral pneumonia and acute respiratory syndrome. And Dr. Fauci knows this, yet, when has he instructed these poor obese and dark skinned individuals on how to save themselves? Instead he promotes hiding under the bed, hoping to delay, delay, delay for the 2 billion dollar payday.

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  32. Rick says:

    Above I forgot to mention studies show vitamin D deficiency leads to obesity. the NIH has a study about that, too. They also have one that shows D deficiency leads to the onset of diabetes.

    Last of all, I regret I didn’t spell check that!

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  33. Rick says:

    Wow, just wow. A new LA times (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-20/coronavirus-serology-testing-la-countystudy) shows 400,000 people in LA alone already immune, and what do they say? ‘Still not enough for herd immunity, we need vaccines.’

    How stupid can you be? We are well on our way to the best form of herd immunity which is NATURAL, and these programmed stupid jackasses think we need failed vaccines? Have they forgotten the mumps outbreaks in 100% vaccinated colleges? The measles outbreaks in highly vaccinated colleges? The best form of Herd immunity is happening right under their eyes and they don’t see it.

    Even worse, they are trying to hold the natural process back through civil rights violating dictates based on phony science and outright lies.

    People wake up!

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  34. i’m going to go out on a limb and make a prediction. all states with schools in the SEC will quickly follow Georgia’s lead. High school and college football is right around the corner. training camp needs to be ready to go by july to make the sept. start of the fall season. because down here football (especially college) rules the day. if sept. comes and those stadiums aren’t rocking; there will be RIOTS in the streets!!!

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  35. ibobland08 says:

    Some good points. I would definitely say grocery store workers probably have the highest exposure to potential carriers of the viruses, but I doubt they have the most exposure to viral particles. That would most definitely be healthcare workers.

    Grocery stores have very high throughput, which means short interaction time with customers. What puts you most at risk is extended contact with infected patients. So in respect to time exposed that is probably low as well. Again healthcare workers spend more time with infected cases as well.

    I am aware of the small studies showing a massive amount of asymptomatic cases, but I have yet to see anything that shows asymptomatic individuals are responsible for a significant amount of the spread. My conjecture is no, because typically asymptomatic cases of viral infections shed little if any virus.

    So grocery stores have high risk relative to most places of business like an office or a construction site, but you can’t ignore the network effects of the shutdown. Each network is smaller due to the shutdown. When the shutdown ends networks will become much larger, which will increase the risk of infection for everyone. So the relative risk will likely be the same for grocery store workers, but the absolute risk will certainly increase.

    Not saying that we shouldn’t reopen (we should), but there will be more spread.

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  36. czecharthur says:

    Thank you Sundance, it is extremely rare these days to see logic and gray brain matter used. Keep up the great work. You are giving me hope that not all is lost.

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  37. MfM says:

    I’m thrilled that Georgia is opening up now. I’m hoping (and praying) it goes well.

    A lot of that is selfish. If it goes well it will give the naysayers in States like mine (PA) pause. Not that they will ever say were wrong. But maybe they won’t stay locked down for so many businesses.

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  38. MfM says:

    Flattening the curve wasn’t to stop the infections and deaths. It was to drop the peak so that the hospitals weren’t overwhelmed.

    That has happened, everyone who needed a vent got them.

    Let’s protect the elderly, really, really well and get on with life.

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  39. Fools Gold says:

    Since this whole deal started, I’ve ask every cash register operator if they know anyone who has or has had this damn flu. I’m not surprised to tell you that not a single one answered YES….

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