It Begins – East and West Coast Blue States Team Up To Begin Economic Civil War…

It seemed clear several weeks ago this was going to happen.  East coast blue state governors and West coast blue state governors are uniting to begin the economic civil war planning to block any White House effort to re-open the U.S. economy.  The founders planned for this in Article I, Sec 10 (paragraph 3):

“No state shall, without the consent of Congress, … enter into any agreement or compact with another state”..

The three step plan seems predictable: (1) Get out ahead of President Trump. (2) Defy the ‘all clear’ and shape economic benefit to their political allies. (3) Then use Fauci’s upcoming dossier to hit the administration for heartlessly opening the economy too early.

♦ On the East Coast the governors of New York (Cuomo), New Jersey (Murphy), Connecticut (Lamont), Pennsylvania (Wolfe), Delaware (Carney) and Rhode Island (Raimondo) have started assembling their economic war council with the intent to keep the northeast region shut down.  Controlling critical ports and infrastructure is a key part of their strategy.

EAST COAST — Six Northeast governors will form a working group to come up with a plan to restart [control] the regional economy, they announced on Monday. (link)

♦ On the West Coast the governors of California (Newsom), Oregon (Brown) and Washington State (Inslee) are also assembling their economic war council for similar intents and purposes.  Combined with their political northeastern allies, controlling two-thirds of U.S. ports will give them a strategic advantage to keep choking the economy until after they can install their commanding general in the White House.

WEST COAST – The governors of Washington, California and Oregon on Monday announced they were working on a joint plan for reopening [controlling] their states’ respective economies once it is safe to lift coronavirus-related restrictions.

 

It appears the Governors did not want to assemble their plans openly; however, they rushed to publicity to avoid their enemy, U.S. President Donald Trump, striking strategically against their schemes.   During this economic war residents within the Blue occupied territories will be held captive to the political whims of their regional generals.

The economic freedom and liberty zone will encompass the Red region.  The center of the country, mid west, southern region (surrounding the Gulf of Mexico) and south eastern Atlantic region.   These areas will be open to commerce and economic freedom.

However, the urban dense populations (Blue pockets within Red zones) will push-back against the efforts of the Red generals in an attempt to retain alignment with their Blue team generals.  Depending on the strength of the urban forces there may be roadblocks, sabotage, skirmishes and political violence against the freedom & liberty Red team.

Red captives within the Blue zones will have to be smart and strategic.  Big Blue tech will be assisting the totalitarian Blue generals. Direct confrontation against the Blue forces should be avoided, and it will likely be a better strategy to fight stealthily as insurgents.

Any Red team member of the economic freedom alliance, trapped within a Blue region, is warned to evaluate their connection to their electronic devices.  Your cell phones could be used as portable transponders expose your movement and your political views.

This is going to be one hell of a battle.  A Spring and Summer conflict like we’ve never seen in the history of U.S. politics outside of actual, physical, civil war.  Fortunately for team freedom and liberty, this time the Red zones control most of the citizen armory.

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660 Responses to It Begins – East and West Coast Blue States Team Up To Begin Economic Civil War…

  1. Richie says:

    Will Uniparty Hacks like Pierre Delecto be on the Blue Team again?

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    • Jederman says:

      I was under the impression there was a NATIONAL emergency, declared by the fed gvt. As such PT can lift the declaration when he thinks it’s appropriate. State governors can keep their peeps locked down at their peril.

      Yes, yes the rotten and corrupt media will try, but will be unable to convince normal citizens it’s cool to sit home and do nothing.

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  2. trapper says:

    I see this a bit differently.

    Two weeks ago the talk was to the effect of stay shut indefinitely. Can’t even think about reopening yet. Then PDJT tells the governors they don’t have the power to reopen their states. Only the President can reopen their states. Now what are the governors talking about? How they will reopen their states. Oh, they haven’t worked out exactly how they will do it legally, but by God they’re gong to reopen and show that Orange Man what’s what.

    They’re like children. So easy to manipulate.

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    • frances says:

      Good point, thank you

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    • Glass Onion says:

      Did you even read what Sundance wrote?
      If you did, consider reading again.

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      • trapper says:

        Yup. I read it. And I reread it at your request. I just don’t see it playing out that way. That may be their plan, but the rush to open businesses and get back to work will simply overwhelm them. Remember, they’re tricky and duplicitous, but their plans don’t work. Too clever by half.

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        • FrankieZee says:

          The D RATS are actually pretty ignorant. The only reason they get away with anything is that they are never challenged by the Corrupt media. If they were challenged, their ignorance would show everyday.

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        • Rgt says:

          As a Michigander in N MI I can testify to the hatred building in regards to the actions of Whitmer. She won in 2018 because weed was on the ballot and the ineffective MI never Trump establishment Republican Party put up Schutte who promptly disappeared as Election Day approached. There is a rally in Lansing Wednesday in defiance of the Governor I remain curious if it will be a harbinger of things to come. The anger is building. Where I live by the Lake, all boat launches were barricaded to prevent guys launching their fishing boats. Not being able to visit friends or go to your cabin is not going to go over well if the weather gets warm. Tourism is BIG. If they don’t make their nut from June to Aug many businesses will be toast. In the small town I’m in one of the two restaurants has already cried uncle and won’t reopen.
          These blue belly tyrants are going to have their hands and jails full if they try to keep a lid on their constituents while other places live as free citizens.
          Their are a lot of guns in Michigan and I just pray sanity prevails.

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    • Guessed says:

      Why would it be illegal for a governor to open their state and why would we be against it?

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      • lcsteel says:

        The President can use authority granted to him under a declaration of emergency to shut things down.

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      • eagle931 says:

        What the president tried to say, but did not elucidate well, was that he has full, plenary powers during a declared national emergency. This power was recognized during the Civil War, and the First and Second World Wars. Since we are under another declared national emergency, it is Constitutionally correct (as seen in previous precedents) for the executive of the federal government to decide on measures to be taken for the country as a whole. Of course, this can (and will be) challenged before the Supreme Court, but I hope Pres. Trump follows through, otherwise Sundance’s opinion of the economic civil war to come may just come true.

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        • Dwayne Diesel says:

          I don’t think this gets to the Supreme Court. Why?

          First, let me say I agree with your analysis based on the current way the National Emergency Law is written. I also agree that normally the President doesn’t typically have that authority.

          I don’t think it gets to the point SD describes but I do think that the Governors and states SD mentioned will try to thwart recovery in their states to keep the country as a whole down. I just don’t think it works for too long.

          Why? I think Trump won’t use his authority to actually take charge of anything. I think he makes a declaration that the National Emergency will end on such and such a date. He will say something to the effect that states better get their states moving along. Those doing so prior to the end of the National Emergency will get help as requested to assist in getting the motors turning again in their states (Trump won’t say out loud and explicitly that help will end, it’s implied by the ending of the Nat. Emergency). Those blue states mentioned will be the ones after the end of the Nat. Emergency struggling…because they tried to play politics. The citizens of those states will be loud (some of us already are- I’m in CT). The aligned governors will start to look more and more like fools as their states stay “closed”.

          I think the Trumperang will get them on this. It’s why I think Trump keeps saying they don’t get to make the decision he does…..he won’t directly get them…he will back off, he will let them bury themselves and they and the msm will have to twist themselves into pretzels as the governors have to go in front of the cameras asking for help from the Feds (while the footage is still available of the same States saying they make the decision) and the MSM will have to then back the governors asking for help- while ignoring the fact that they and the governors requesting help not even a month prior were saying…no, no, no its on us, not you.

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          • Diesel- here’s another thing I don’t see many discussing. Many states had to pass their budgets on April 1st or thereabouts, like NY.
            *If all of the productive taxpayers are out of work, where are these Blue Commie States going to get the money to support their bureaucracy, their schools and their voters who depend on them for food, clothing, shelter and medical care?
            NY State can’t print money last I heard. They will have no choice but to let us get back to work and damn fast too!

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            • Dwayne Diesel says:

              My Gov. here in CT is following along with whatever Cuomo does. Lamont is a dope and a fool.

              I’m not saying Trump is a genius, he just uses the rules in place to suit his needs. Trump knows per the Constitution that States have their own authority. He also knows he declared an emergency. He’s just using the current situation to drive others to do what he needs to be done. He knows they will resist so he gets them to resist in a manner that suits him.

              He knows as soon as he ends the Nat. Emergency most states will “open” and people will go back to life. He also knows some of these states will play games. He doesn’t know which game exactly but he’s choosing the court so he knows it can only be certain games that can be played.

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          • Dwayne Diesel says:

            And since they will be asking for help after the National Emergency is over, Trump can easily remind them that he doesn’t have the authority to do so, as they told him a few weeks back. Then he will kindly remind them that if they worked with him prior to the Nat. Emergency ending he would’ve had the authority to provide assistance as needed.

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          • old deplorable owl says:

            If they think they’re going to buffalo PDJT with manipulation of the economy, they have a rude awakening coming. Do they really think they’re smarter than AMLO, Rocket Man, Xi, the (once) offshored manufacturers, and anyone else he’s turned Sauron’s Eye on?
            Those people are so full of hubris and TDS that they’re incapable of realizing that they’ve REALLY pi$$ed off the lion.
            There’s a lot of pent-up anger and resentment out here in Realville. I’m betting he’s gonna roll the dice and expose the bunch of them fairly soon, and win an unprecedented landslide in Nov..Even a lot of what I call ‘hereditary’ democrats are waking up to the reality of what’s been going on.
            To quote someone we all know: “We’ll see what happens.”

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          • eagle931 says:

            I agree. I also believe that Pres. Trump threatening to use his plenary power is a tactic to put the heat on the blue state governors who have the opposite in mind just to hurt him politically (in their minds because I believe it would have the opposite effect). Still, I would not be surprised to see one or two Blue state governors suing just for effect.

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        • Tfields says:

          No the president did not have full plenary powers during the first Civil War, but he’s unconstitutionally had them ever since thanks to socialist dictator Abraham Lincoln’s destruction of the Founding Father’s republic that we were all lied to as school children about with the easily debunked claim that it was necessary to end slavery- an institution that was already ending anyway.

          The irony here is that the all-powerful unchecked federal government that states are unconstitutionally completely subservient to that was founded by the Deep State’s hero and founding father Abraham Lincoln can now be used by a freedom fighting president President Donald J Trump to stop the socialist forces from further destroying America

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    • YeahYouRight says:

      Exactly. There’s far too much money involved in keeping the coasts shut down longer than necessary. They’ll certainly be passive aggressive about it, but these blue governors will lose their constituencies if citizens and companies, alike, are hampered in making a living.

      Plus, Trump will not send federal dollars to a state that stays closed due to TDS.

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      • Kristin DeBacco says:

        Some governors might keep the carrot seeds locked away from the populace…

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      • stripmallgrackle says:

        Corpus Christ, TX is currently building a higher bridge over the port area as part of a larger project to expand the port. Growth is a given. Living in a port city on the Gulf, I must say that a gambit by the East and West Coasts to use their clout to control imports and exports is very interesting. Hmm…

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      • Steve says:

        I disagree with you on them losing their constituencies, Bolshevik Bill was roundly despised by most folks in NYC – even when he was running for reelection – and yet he won another term. The same will hold true for Cuomo. No one will remember how he eagerly signed on to legislation that let thousands of hardened criminals back on the street to rape and pillage anew. Hell, he even pardoned a number of convicted cop killers, all so he could get more votes for his last reelection. Folks outside of NYC have long memories when it comes to stuff like this, but unfortunately for them, the city holds the rest of the state hostage. And with thousands more fleeing every year, many traditionally red counties/areas are now trending purple. Twenty years from now, the state will be California east.

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    • Blonde Gator says:

      And just like children, they will fold when Daddy Warbucks (the Federal Government, headed by none other than PDJT) refuses to pay for their follies, or to support any more of their needs via Federal Agencies.

      I”m going to take great joy in their wailing at the unfairness of it all. Especially the Mario brother.

      PS. I’m in SoFla, and I think we can take any local Dems who get to big for their britches. The Cubans loathe the Democrats, and the oldie goldies in Broward will freak out and turn against Democrats at the drop of a hat, if they perceive Democrats do not put their (Super Seniors) interests above everyone else’s.

      PSS. Great to be back here, I’ve been offline, more or less, for ages. Lurking a bit here and there, but I missed the Treeper community.

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    • trapper says:

      On Breitbart: “Governors, White House Race to Reopen America”

      wink

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/13/governors-white-house-race-to-reopen-america/

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    • tucker7518 says:

      How about Cuomo and De Blasio fighting over keeping the schools shut down?

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    • flyboy46 says:

      Maybe Trump is “playing” these governors. They have a problem, plunging sales tax revenue, and they can’t print money like Uncle Sam can. If PDJT says No, these idiots have to take the opposite view, just because of him. Reverse psychology works in Govt too.

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    • Mrs. E says:

      Yes, and hasn’t their immaturity become tedious?!

      Given the Constitution, the Feds can go into the ports and open them. The states cannot stop them from doing it.

      They cannot be bothered with legalities, even tho they spend so much of their time bringing lawsuits.

      And I wish GOPers, like Cheney, would hold their tongues til their minds catch up. I think America knows the president was speaking within the context of the National Emergency declaration, and not about dictatorial powers. Geesh! It is so tiresome!

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    • Sofa King says:

      Whatever they do, Texas benefits.
      ⅔ of the ports? That ⅓ not mentioned will be getting REAL busy…

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  3. Bree says:

    I’m on the red entrapped in big blue California!!! Just wondering if I will be able to go back to work next month! Crazy!!!

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    • ezgoer says:

      Democrat governors want to keep businesses closed for as long as possible to inflict maximum economic carnage which they believe will help Dems win in November election as angry citizens vote against Trump. They won’t re-start their economies until there is insufficient time for an economic recovery before the November election. Their challenge is to blame the economic misery on Trump so voters don’t hold them responsible.

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  4. Orson says:

    I think you’re missing a very, very important factor here, Sundance. I believe this is more about “mail-in voting” than anything else. Trump needs Pennsylvania to win re-election. There is no way around this. However, as we have seen with the Pa Supreme Court, they have absolutely not problem ignoring the state constitution. They have done this recently with 11th hour redistricting, and voter ID.

    I fully expect Gov. Tom Wolf to come out in a couple of weeks and state that he is requiring mail in voting via executive order. This will be rubber stamped but the PA Supreme Court. The basis of tying Pennsylvania’s fate to New York and New Jersey is that those two states are disasters and have a long road ahead before they can return to some semblance of normalcy. Pennsylvania, on the other hand isn’t half bad. A reasonable governor would not have a blanket stay at home order in effect. There are plenty of counties with minimal exposure. The same philosophy will be applied and extended by making NY and NJ part of the decision making process. This is a hint that Wolf intends to stretch this out as long as possible so that it can be tied to the election such that “mail in” voting can be discussed, forced, then approved.

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  5. ezgoer says:

    This is going to get real interesting fast. Who will Ohio, probably the most important industrial state, side with? They have a Republican governor but he’s behaved like a Kasich – like Democrat so far. What happens when Dem governors try to keep their ports closed? Will Trump order them open through use of military force? Will Dem governors counter by calling on state national guard to counter federal troops? This could lead to a very dangerous and ugly new civil war.

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    • Chip Doctor says:

      Fauci or someone was at the mic and PT off to the left. There were two conversations going on, one between a reporter and Fauci and another between PT and another reporter. PT responded to this issue with “just watch”. PT will win this battle as well.

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    • Guessed says:

      No president can force a state to open by military force. What a fascist notion.

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      • Edward says:

        The disaster declarations are under exclusive executive control; Pence used the term “plenary” meaning complete. This authority is based on the statute authorizing disaster declarations. Almost all ports are under federal control – so, for example their workers are under federal law with respect to workers’ compensation and liability law etc.

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      • guest4ever says:

        Guessed—Chip never said PT would do that! PT just knows how to plan and play these idiots so well! Keep praying for our VSGPDJT every day!!!

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    • Rgt says:

      Since before being elected Trump has heaped praise and attention on the military while dismantling the credibility of the MSM. You might think he anticipated a confrontation as you describe. The president can federalize the the national guard and as always it will be seen where the loyalties fall.

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    • Sofa King says:

      Fine by me.
      As good a time as any.

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  6. L. E. Joiner says:

    The scenario that Sundance describes is ridiculous. There will be no civil war. The people of this country want the restrictions ended.

    I watched the Task Force presser today. Under a Federal Emergency Declaration, the President pointed out that he has full authority over the nation. But he said, in effect, that he respects Federalism, and he will work with the State governors to let them manage reopening according to the health needs of their populations. He said he’s confident most of them will do what’s right for their states, and if any do not, he’s perfectly able and willing to step in and take control. He’s absolutely right, and he will do whatever is necessary to get the nation working again, while protecting the health of those still in ‘hot zones’. /LEJ

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    • QuiAudetVincit says:

      “There will be no civil war.”

      There will be war. Maybe not this year because of the corona. But there will be, within most of our lifetimes. And it will likely be between the coastal/urbanized areas and Middle America and rural areas, akin to the horrible Spanish Civil War.

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      • James says:

        Well considering that Middle America has all the fire power,will not much of a war.

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        • FrankieZee says:

          And all the food and all the factories.

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        • Hans says:

          And the south…

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        • Somewhere in Dixie says:

          Middle America and the South have all the power. They have the food supply, energy, water ways, military bases, ports and are armed to the teeth. Texas has its own power grid. Stop giving the coastal areas food and they will kill each other.

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          • Dwayne Diesel says:

            And the killing will be started by the government leaches leaving the city to go rob and pillage the suburbs. We’ve talked about that in my neighborhood. Being on the outskirts of Hartford, we know if or when the time comes and power goes out indefinitely or that a point comes where food is not replenished we know they are leaving and headed this way. They will bring their crime and violence with them.

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      • L. E. Joiner says:

        There cannot be a civil war in the USA unless the military becomes hopelessly divided, and that’s not going to happen while the America is the pre-eminent economic and military power in the world. And a military coup is not going to happen unless a powerful faction wants to turn the country over to the Chinese. /LEJ

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        • Judith says:

          Pssst.. Don’t look now.. but a powerful faction wants to turn the country over to the Chinese.

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          • Edward says:

            FIFY:

            Pssst.. Don’t look now.. but the Democrat party wants to turn the country over to the Chinese.

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            • L. E. Joiner says:

              Yes, at least the globalist corruptocrat wing of the party does, but all we have to do is get President Trump reelected this fall, and he’ll fry their noses (an expression that came from the late mayor of Boston, Mumbles Menino). He’ll have the Chinese peeing in their pants, too. /LEJ

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    • ezgoer says:

      IMO the majority wants the lockdown continued because the media has scared them out of their wits. Probably 65/35. Notice the media provides no coverage of any positive news about declining cases or declining hospital admissions. Only intense coverage of deaths. Small business owners want the economy opened but they are a minority. This psychology has to change before there is pressure to open again.

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      • James says:

        Better check this again,just the opposite,
        “Small business owners want the economy opened but they are a minority”

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      • L. E. Joiner says:

        “IMO the majority wants the lockdown continued because the media has scared them out of their wits. . .”

        Nonsense. Most citizens want to get back to work to feed their families, and they want the freedom to go to baseball games and restaurants. The petty bureaucrats in the state and municipal offices may be feeling their oats, but that nose bag will get ripped off pretty quickly when the President gives the OK. /LEJ

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    • Rgt says:

      I agree, but caution that this is not just Blue bs Red. Rather I see this as Globalists vs Nationalists. The collapse of the USA is not a problem for the globalists.

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  7. frogtongue says:

    It irks! The whole scenario reads much better when referring to the Bolsheviks (disrupters) and their states as Reds. We, the good guys, Republican states are the blues. There is nothing red about use. We must take control of the terms. What also irks, never refer to leftist as liberals, they are anything but. don’t even refer to them as progressives because they are not. Call them disruptes, dystopians, or dems or just Democrats.

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  8. joebkonobi says:

    160 years ago it was blue vs grey. Now it is blue vs red. This could get really serious. When the sh*t hits the fan, I doubt that the blue alliances can stick together. The kitchen is going to get plenty hot and some will flee.

    PDJT will do his best to work with all 50 Governors and be the adult in the room. IMO the blue Governors would be wise to coordinate and cooperate. They may think they have all the power but when it gets down to the nut cuttin’, Trump can and will trump them if they force him to.

    We are talking about all Americans, American economic security and our National Security. There should only be one side, the Red, White & Blue side. I trust President Trump can and will pull it off.

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  9. Texian says:

    So here we are.. It was bound to happen.. History says so..

    Economics is a powerful weapon.. In war.. it makes or breaks.. it starts and ends.. Nations..

    If things start getting rude.. I say Texas take Sam Houston’s original advice he gave us in the last scuffle.. stay neutral.. go it alone..

    President Trump claims only he has the authority to open up State economies.. as interpreted by the Supreme Court.. such rulings become perilously irrelevant in times of impending war.. and while he believes he has the best interests in mind of preserving the Union.. the timing of pulling out this sword is questionable..

    But with that argument set aside.. let’s assume for the moment the federal government has the power to regulate commerce between Nation-States.. but he does not have that power within States.. the federal government has no business to be meddling in intrastate commerce..

    Texas can open up it’s own economy if it wants too.. and not be in violation of the Union’s interstate commerce clause.. We produce the basic staples and supplies within our own Nation-State borders..

    We have jurisdiction over our own territorial waters.. the only Nation-State that does.. and we border a foreign Nation.. and have deep water ports for international trade.. we are already established in the international market..

    So let’s look at the map.. East Coast.. West Coast.. Heartland.. and Texas.. You can think of it like the National Power Grid.. There are three: East Coast.. West Coast.. and Texas.. Texas has its own power grid..

    Texas supplies the rest of the Nation with ~96% of the whole Union’s Energy needs.. we are allies.. but a nominal tax very well could be imposed on every unit of energy we export to other Nation-States.. to support our Country.. The Republic of Texas..

    We’ve never officially rejoined since the last scuffle.. we’ve just been polite..

    “..Texas will again lift its head and stand among the nations.. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages..”. Sam Houston

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      You’re right he can’t regulate intra-state commerce but the feds, per the constitution, own inter-state commerce. This is where the U.S. moving more towards a federally run government in modern history and away from the more localized state-run system our country was founded on bites these Dem Governors in the butt.

      They may be able to transport things in State but the Feds can take over all of the Interstate Highways. The Govs that don’t play are in a world of hurt especially in places like CT and Cali- all of the manufacturing was shut down and shipped elsewhere.

      These states will have no cars. No trucks. No metals. No finished goods. They don’t have the means to make them. They will sing a different tune very fast. The people of these states will force the Governors to change their tune.

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  10. Mike Lee DelMarcelle says:

    If this is their plan it will fail miserably for them. If Democrat controlled states or cities keep people locked down while much of the country is not, people in those areas are going to get very angry with their state and local politicians. Many of the people locked down are the Dem voting base. It will come back to bite them in November.

    Businesses that are shuttered that do commerce country wide will be in trouble if much of the rest of the country opens up. A business / customer (in an open state) that purchases product from a business that is shut in a closed state will look elsewhere for that product and find a new supplier. The business in the closed state / city may never get that customer back. “Don’t give your customers reason to look elsewhere, if you do, they will”

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    • disgustedwithjulison says:

      When suddenly there is no food on the shelves in the states with Dem governors…but plentiful food around the rest of the country….things will open up very fast. Very fast.

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  11. GREENMIRROR says:

    Clearly at war, there can be no 2020 election until the origin of the gain of function SARS-CoV-2 can be traced through questionably funded learning institutions, University’s College Bio-genetic/bio-weapon labs and any other engineered bio-terrorism programs.

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  12. distracted2 says:

    Anything is possible, of course, but I see things happening differently – at least in California.

    When Californians, in particular, see that the rest of the US is successfully open for business, the governor will be pressured to do that same if he isn’t being pressured already.

    We are already in the end stage of the second wave, as this virus has been here in CA since the end of last year. Major media is already acknowledging it.

    As much as politicians in CA want to put the screws to Trump, they care more about self-preservation and their own political aspirations. And let’s face it, the almighty dollar always wins.

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  13. BitterC says:

    Wouldn’t Article I, Sec 10 prohibit the popular vote initiative of the blue states to stymie the Electoral College?

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  14. ruckustom says:

    Article I, Sec 10 (paragraph 3):

    “No state shall, without the consent of Congress, … enter into any agreement or compact with another state”..

    Very wise men laid out our law for us … if people in power would just follow it.

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      Exaclty these pacts are un-Constitutional. They will learn the hard way….they will…despite how much the media and the Dem politicians try to play it.

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  15. All Too Much says:

    “Red captives within the Blue zones will have to be smart and strategic. Big Blue tech will be assisting the totalitarian Blue generals. Direct confrontation against the Blue forces should be avoided, and it will likely be a better strategy to fight stealthily as insurgents.

    Any Red team member of the economic freedom alliance, trapped within a Blue region, is warned to evaluate their connection to their electronic devices. Your cell phones could be used as portable transponders expose your movement and your political views.”

    I’ve never felt like a captive, but I need to prepare for status as a Red captive in a Blue zone.
    Viva le résistance!

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    • Publius2016 says:

      American People like green…let’s go make some money…the hot dog vendor needs baseball…the waitress needs tips…time to go back to work!

      Dimms need to remember we are a Constitutional Republic not a banana republic…why risk Civil War during pandemic…

      do you not understand that what you think you will win may actually result in the opposite…

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  16. Cecelia Power says:

    Let them do this. President Trump will be the hero who tried to save jobs, tried to keep food flowing to our supermarkets, tried to let people go to church or temple. In our red states, we will begin to flourish again. In the blue states, they can empty the prisons, deal with the crime, put more people on the streets already teeming with homeless and illegals.

    Go for it. It’s a pathway to Trumps re-election.

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  17. Magabear says:

    What I see the demonrats doing here is doing the old Lucy with the football trick. As soon as it looks like they’re going to open things up and tell PDJT everything is on track, then they’ll claim there may be new WhuFlu hotspots and they just have to stay in lockdown another month. PDJT should forget about kicking the football and instead give them a big kick in the rear end.

    There are so many lawsuits that can be thrown at these lockdown Governors (1st amendment, interfering with interstate commerce, etc) that one way or another they have to open things back up. Not to mention their depleted tax revenues (and they love tax revenue).

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    • Judith says:

      RepubliCONS have been known to pull away those footballs as well. A good rule of thumb: When the left hand is gesturing furiously, don’t pay it any mind. It’s the right hand that will blind side you.

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      And watch all of these Blue states, like my shithole CT, during the November elections will have these same governors running on increasing the benefits and pay of state workers. More paid leave. Better healthcare plans. And new add on by the Unions will be pandemic work protection that ensures their union workers get paid during state shutdowns and if they have a job where there is no work, they sill get a pay check.

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  18. ggmppv says:

    Simple – Trump needs to announce America is open. Any state that doesn’t will have all funds cut and call for all businesses in those states to immediately relocated to Red states. And then the borders will be closed to those states. Announce California, Washington, NY state will all be allowed to break up to allow the regional areas to join the US. Announce that LA, SF, NYC, Seattle, DC, Chicago will be walled off an excluded from the US. That solves ALL problems.

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    • L&L says:

      No funding cuts required. No more COVID-19 free money and they will open up so fast your head will spin. They got high on free covid money and the supply is about to be cut off along with a reminder from DOJ that we still have a constitution and bill of rights.

      The citizens are ready to revolt if we don’t reopen soon. Even liberals have to make a living and tax starved blue states are in no position to start offering new free stuff. They have run out of taxpayer funded bait.

      Let’s not forget the lobbyist who put them in power can’t survive on a closed economy.

      Trump is right….they will reopen of their own free will so to speak.

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    • Jose Canyusi says:

      Please include Portland!

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  19. Diabolik says:

    CWII
    We’ve been waiting for it. You can’t bargain with communists. It’s getting closer to setting the record straight.

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  20. Steve Fogler says:

    Who ever controls the power grid wins. Already some states are talking about turning off your power if you don’t comply with ____ (fill in the blank). So there’s already plans to screw around with the grid. If the lights go out for whatever reason we will cease to exist as a nation. Red or blue won’t matter, day to day survival will.

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      If they want people to go fight that will get them to go start to fight. People don’t like having taken from them what they worked for and paid for with their own money. In this case electricity.

      Especially since in most of these states, like my shithole CT, the people the state would more than likely be screwing are the ones paying for the illegals and leaches to live free.

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    • American Heritage says:

      Our enemies, foreign and domestic, are masters of creative ways to disrupt legitimate governing. Who would have foreseen the Trump Russian collusion/impeachment tactic, and now the Chinese flu aggression, would be in the Left’s battle plans. They are, in a sense, guerrilla fighters; they maneuver subversively, then pop up to bushwhack us.

      They don’t have to wage military warfare; although they would if that was their best move. They’ve gained monopoly power through years of subtle cultural degradation. Our brilliant war game planners in all facets of government need to prepare for power grid disruption, poisoning the food/water supply, and every other means by which we could be taken over and subdued, and be prepared for any kind of aggression.

      I don’t think anyone was expecting a bio-warfare attack — if that’s what the Chinese flu is or is not — but it caught us flatfooted, and did incalculable damage. What will they come at us with next? Stealing the Presidential election is a good bet. One thing we can be sure of is their relentless and ruthless pursuit of power. They’ll be back …

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  21. Hans says:

    I don’t know much but I do believe I can live without a new computer much longer than I can live without food and water. I don’t know of any Big Blue City that has a ready supply…of food or water..

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  22. lcsteel says:

    Sentiment will change as the death toll starts to decline …it’s about to start

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  23. Daniel says:

    To the blue states
    I am writing to express my displeasure at your hair brain scam to push mail-in voting. Not only will I boycott that election you can expect me and everyone I know to push to make Donald trump King of America. We will be done with voter fraud from the democrat party for good. And we will riot until Trumps chooses to take the Mantel to be our King, King for the rest of his life and then pass the throne down to his son Don Jr. We are not making threats we think Trump will the best King in world history just like he has been the best President in American History. Keep pushing the voter fraud thing and we will put you out of a job, For real! And forever! ALL HAIL KING TRUMP!!!

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  24. PhillyGirl says:

    I’m a “red captive within a blue zone”, so whats the recommendation regarding the use of my cell phone? Turn it off when I go out?

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    • Rgt says:

      Get a faraday bag for transport or learn to live without it. I did for forty years. Amazing how addictive they are.

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    • L&L says:

      The phone still works for tracking and listening purposes even when powered off…. This was disclosed years ago in a mafia trial. If you don’t want to be tracked you’ll have to go without the phone. Even a burner phone (prepaid phone and refill cards purchased with cash only) can be tracked to you based on contacts and the GPS location of the phone.

      I leave my phone home during this lock down when I go to the store or anywhere else. Personally I never liked the damn thing and lived most of my life in the pre cell phone era.

      BTW I’m sure why people thought cell phones were not always trackable. How they heck could people get billed for roaming charges going back to the first cell phones. They always know where those phones are and always have.

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    • Jose Canyusi says:

      No, that doesn’t work unless you have an old phone that you can remove the battery. Look on Amazon and get a Faraday bag – shuts down wireless signals.

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  25. Retired IG says:

    Have NO IDEA how this is going to play out. LMAO at Fauci back pedalling. Uh, we have the tapes on what you have said Fauci. On, and there are tapes of Pelosi saying “I don’t hate anyone. I am a Catholic.” Well Nancy, how do you think all of those persons feel about being raped by the priests of your religion?”. The woman is totally TONE DEAF with her messages.
    Neither her or HRC can wait to stand up on the podium to say we saved you , the American people from President Donald J. Trump. Grr. Talk about SICK. Methinks this virus is version of what now is – Get Rid of Trump 4.0. Any. Means.Necessary.
    Have a gazillion DVD”s amassed during the time I spent caring for Mom on weekends 24/7 for 10 years. The movies were our time together.
    My collection is in disorder, but while looking for something else I found the movie “V for Vendetta.” Don’t care what the hour is, I’m retired! As are so many others of my fellow America in these times and will now watch it. Popcorn with LOTS of grass fed orgainic butter on it.
    Can only hope that the night of the LONG Knives is coming.

    V for Vendattta
    Offucial Trailer –

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  26. L&L says:

    It will never work and I doubt they would even try and here’s why.

    1. 30 days to slow spread expires and CDC issues new guidelines.

    2. Big states like Texas and Florida open back up along the 7 or 8 states in the mid west that did not lockdown, importance of farming emphasized.

    3. Bill Barr issues statement on zero tolerance policy unconstitutional policies/rules/laws. Saw a preview with churches on Easter Sunday.

    4. Cabin fever and Spring fever merge in a defiant spirit among citizens, especially the young.

    5. Testing will reveal the death rate is much lower than the numbers coming from the fake news.

    6. Game over

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      And the CDC needs to start pushing for verifying the actual cause of death in people who died while being infected with COVID. If they had a heart attack- they didn’t die from COVID, they died from a heart attack. Yes, the stress of fighting the disease may have lead to the heart attack but COVID was not the cause of death. These just call them COVID deaths cuz they have it is really inflating the numbers. How many died just because they were old and not necessarily because of COVID?

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  27. Hans says:

    I have a somewhat different view of what happened today… remember what president Trump said the other day about the MSM.. he put that on display today. He outed all their lies..

    He asked the question why are they doing this. .. and most know the answer China..

    So I just remember the presser today and he outed China/MSM…..he showed some democrats as being reasonable….. now the ones owned by China will want to keep the economy down.. Blue vs Red might actually be Red vs China/blue ..

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    • L&L says:

      Hans forget about the red state blue state nonsense.

      The people are not going to care about red state blue state politics. The desire for freedom is quickly over coming their fears of this “virus”. The willingness of people to die for liberty is something that will never change, it’s universal and timeless.

      I’m actually surprised to see Sundance write something like this. Like somehow people are going to sit in the house forever because some politician and their media friends want to play red state blue state.

      You can divide the country with all that rhetoric but it’s not going make the overwhelming desire for liberty among all people just go away for an extended period.

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      How did Trump put that on display today at the presser?

      And, I heard Fauci was caught red-handed leaking stuff to the media. Is this true? If so, what?

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  28. Liberty ONE says:

    Guess who WILL win the Civil WAR. The patriots in these states AND every other state.

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  29. Joe says:

    This MAY have been their plan, but there’s not enough death to scare the people. They’re burned out on lockdown already. This won’t last 2 more weeks….Unless china sends their undercover CCP rats out licking produce again.

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  30. PatriotUSA says:

    “it will likely be a better strategy to fight stealthily as insurgents”

    Absolutely agree. I live in an effing blue state. and the “governor” is a totalitarian, power hungry, grabbing globalist wanker.

    The only good commie is a dead one……..choose wisely.

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  31. bjorn says:

    This seems to me the precursor to setting up a parallel executive using a council of governors or similar and bypass the constitution. Its why they don’t care about running a senile like Biden as they have given up on the presidency as all but ceremonial.

    One can then tie in Sundance’s earlier pieces on the House setting up DOJ like depts, the supine role of the Senate and the move to broadcast the supreme court. The supreme court is being prepped to play out the legal arguments to this in real time, so the TV can manage the message.

    One could easily see this as likely sooner rather than later (the scene is being set now) and the seizure of the high population centres followed by the utilization of the poor/criminal/alien classes in large numbers from these centres to take over the countryside was the same model a few thousand Bolshevicks used in the USSR.

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    • gary says:

      enter cousin smith and cousin wesson.

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    • Deplorable Ukie says:

      ‘was the same model a few thousand Bolshevicks used in the USSR.’

      Not quite the same.
      First, if you are talking about the October revolution, there was no USSR in 1917. Second, many soldiers in the Russian army were peasants. To win them over, Bolsheviks promised to give them land. “Peace, Land, and Bread.”

      Read The Origin of Russian Communism by Nikolai Berdyaev. He was sent into forced exile in 1922.

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  32. Mike Robinson says:

    These Governors would do well to chop down all the trees and telephone poles within twenty miles of their residence, and attempting to seize all the rope …

    When people realize that 20% of the working population of this country has been put out of work – many of these jobs never to return – for a “public health threat” that never existed, there’s going to be rebellion. No, I don’t literally mean civil war, but it’s going to be one of those days when it really sucks to be President, Governor, Mayor, and so on. “You made these bad decisions – now, you own them.”

    World-wide, strange as it may seem, our public health response was generally ill-advised and overblown.

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  33. testpointwp says:

    If California and New York attempt this, their pension and unemployment benefit payments will push them into default. Default will be quick because the negative cash flow is going to be huge.

    Everyone in the state will be affected and if the checks stop there will be riots.

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  34. anadromos says:

    Another excellent post by Sundance. Given this information I also want to add that it is even more important for all of us to have the discipline to not dwell on fear and hate. If this indeed the way things will unfold we must be diligent and stay rooted in our hearts.
    https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/where-i-stand/principles-pandemic

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  35. railer says:

    If they close the coastal ports, the Gulf and Southeast ports will prosper, as will Canada’s ports and even Mexico’s.

    These doofuses are just angling for multi-trillion dollar federal bailouts for their states, and attempting to take hostages. Except it’s like Sheriff Bart in Blazing Saddles, taking himself hostage and fooling the Rockridge townsfolk into going along, except we’re not Rockridge. If Cuomo and company want to put a gun to their own head, I have only one thing to say to them… do it.

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  36. Squidly says:

    Interesting take. I don’t see any way that the Blue Team wins this one. How can they possibly win from such a position of weakness? .. they will be battling more with internal defection than against the Red Team. Their own team members won’t last a minute in lock-down while the rest of the country rebounds and flourishes. This will be the shortest economic war in human history. I say, bring it on! .. more will defect and support the Red Team moving forward.

    Never stop and enemy that is killing itself.

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  37. minnesotamike55 says:

    It’s reverse psychology. Anything Trump wants, the lefties are against. These densely packed regions will see mass exodus of enlightened voters, along with their tax dollars, to wherever they see a less restrictive government. The blue team will resist for as long as possible but inevitably lose when they see other parts of America making a comeback.
    Team red must believe that blue team voters will finally vote out their leaders. I know blue team out state MN despises our dear leaders whole state shutdown. Some MN blue counties still only have 1 case of virus and many have zero deaths!

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  38. Don Basco says:

    Control of international and interstate commerce is wholly the purview of the federal government. It’s established clearly in the Constitution. That means these Governors are just flaming piles of BS out and hoping the public swallows it

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  39. littleanniefannie says:

    Ironically the less than 20% of the governors screaming about their control now were, in large part, the ones screaming about the government NOT doing enough during the height of the pandemic. You just can’t satisfy these people. Between these power-grabbers and the idiots that seem to populate the Coronavirus task force briefings, it is a miracle that President Trump has been able to accomplish the wealth of good he has done for our country. We won’t even address the weasels embedded by Obama or the power-mad in Congress!

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  40. ballgame17 says:

    Let them lock-down until hell freezes over and make sure Chuckie and Nancy’s states don’t get squat to recover . Then let the populace attack the ramparts of their assemblies and mayors ,and representatives , not to mention the Governor. Then the problems can be fixed.

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  41. DalisuSays says:

    I love you, Sundance, but if you’re going to quote the constitution you have to finish the sentence:

    “…or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay”

    The governors have successfully persuaded much of the people that we are in imminent danger.

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  42. Shyster says:

    OVSGPDJT will squash them all under the commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution. The US Supreme Court over the last 45 years has systematically expanded the federal government’s powers under the commerce clause so greatly almost nothing escapes its broad expanse. Any state governor actions that even tangentially interfere in or affect interstate commerce fall within the sole purview of the feds and Trump will swat any such Governor emergency orders inconsistent with his emergency power dictates like so many gnats buzzing around his head. It will be glorious to see!

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  43. Paul Hill says:

    We are ready, so give it your best shot. You may control the dirty politics, but you don’t control the patriots of this nation

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  44. nuthinmuffin says:

    I might be mistaken, but isn’t most of the oil produced in red states? and what about refineries. where are they? I hear rumors that the Guantanamo facility has been expanded…it can’t be just for fun.

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  45. nuthinmuffin says:

    I’m sorry, we are locking down the borders and those stimulus checks you were expecting. not a chance

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  46. Cguy Aok says:

    Notice Trump said “County by County!”

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  47. Cguy Aok says:

    “We have it all!” We have them on tape and email violating the Constitution with their pact 10 different ways- Wolfie should expect a knock on her door!

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  48. cuchulaine says:

    Come now. This is child’s play.
    Their backs are to the sea.
    We have the fertile ground and all transportation routes.
    I say we starve them into submission.
    In the process, the salvageable progs will have rebelled and come to our side.
    So you see, one must always seek out the silver lining.
    This crisis will assuredly not have “gone to waste”. Aye.

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  49. Ivehadit says:

    Never forget: Some of our greatest resources are our North/South rivers….Bring it Blue.

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