April 9th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1176

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1,108 Responses to April 9th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1176

  1. WeThePeople2016 says:

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    • TMonroe says:

      5) Death coding for dollars (i.e. assuming covid as primary death cause on paperwork) needs to be investigated

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      Unfortunately, a mathematical model is not a prophecy. I don’t think that the models were concocted to over-state nor mis-state anything. They just didn’t turn out to mirror what actually happened.

      But your point (1) is the key: “we used models as a means to launch (and, justify …) policy. Not what was actually happening or not-happening on the ground. We knew that the virus was highly contagious, as all cold viruses are, but we vastly over-estimated its actual danger.

      And here’s the rub: “say you’re the President.” People are telling you what they think is true at the time. They’re showing you mathematical model results – and, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt that they genuinely thought those results meant something. You are the President. Another “buck” just landed on your desk with the usual resounding thump. What do you do now?

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      • lackawaxen123 says:

        no its the Governors who made the bad call its the Governors who have to reverse the bad call …

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      • shacklesandchains says:

        Verify who is behind the models before you trust. Bring in more than ONE opinion or model and make sure that model isn’t funded by GLOBALISTS! President Trump didn’t do any of those things. He trusted one model, ( the Imperial School of London), he listened to one point of view, (Fauci and Birx). Then he didn’t verify who was behind the next model,( University of Washington,meaning BILL GATES) and the people pushing the model, (Fauci and Birx). The question is WHY?

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        • PS says:

          It’s the same problem that inherent in the FISA courts. By the time that it gets to the President / Judge, the document is signed off by subordinates, and the executive is not expected to judge the veracity of the data. The President relies on the Staff to triage the data, and the Staff relies on the Subject Matter Experts (SME) who are developing the models. The SMEs need to properly relay the risks inherent with the model up the chain, and the Staff layer needs to do its due diligence to filter, critique and support the claims.

          Given the data a couple months ago, this was being compared to 1918 Influenza, which had 10% fatality rate. Earth’s population is easily 6x what it was a century ago, so the scale of potential death was shocking.

          Now we have data. We need to be honest with the public, and say here’s what we know and where we think this is going. Things can get back to “normal” if we social distance AND roll out quinine+zpac+zinc medicines AND continue to work on vaccines. Social distance is not panic shutdown, but a measured response. We need to get the kids back to school, or redefine public school altogether. We need to get the adults back to work, whether that’s telework, take-out services, or something different.

          Hiding in our homes, waiting for some miracle, isn’t going to help the economy. I don’t want that to be our new normal.

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        • Mike Robinson says:

          I’m going to presume – rightly or wrongly – that an adviser to the POTUS is going to supply him with the best information that he can … at the time. The models themselves were neither proprietary nor secret.

          As others have said (including a Scottish columnist writing about UK practice on rt.com), I think that the biggest mistake was how we used these models to shape public policy.

          But … I’m not going to throw these advisers under the bus, and I don’t think that PDJT will, either. I’m also not going to throw PDJT under the bus. 😀

          “Today, we know a lot more … that we couldn’t know then.” PDJT made a very dramatic decision, as did many other countries around the world. I think that these decisions were wrong. But, they were not my decisions to make, and I respect the one for whom they were.

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      • boogywstew says:

        If only 700 people out of the 3,700 people on the Diamond Princess even got Covid 19, how damn contagious can it be???

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        • Robert Smith says:

          Because of fear mongering press and grandstanding politicians, people feel Cv-19 is everywhere when it’s not.

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          • boogywstew says:

            I was in Walmart a few weeks ago with my ex gf so she could buy a toy for her granddaughter. There was a big bin of soft rubber balls that were mostly 3 inches in diameter and an orangy red color. They had a hundred little “spiky tits” on them like all the illustrations we see of the Coronavirus. They looked EXACTLY like a Coronavirus. I don’t understand why they had the “spikey tits” on them? It was in the children’s toys in a bin against the outside wall. This was not a Super Walmart. Someone could buy a hundred or so and use them in a comedy sketch?

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      • cjzak says:

        He did not declare a national shut down. He declared a National emergency. The Governors are supposed to take it up from there and are in charge of their respective states. (we are supposed to be a democratic republic after all). They chose to shutdown their respective states and PT said he would support them in whatever they felt was best for their own districts.

        Yes, the buck comes to him but he did the right things in passing that control and responsibility on to where it is supposed to go. He also closed off the incoming travel and borders and set up his task force to deal with the federal responsibilities through FEMA etc.

        That buck does stop on his desk and he has been spending it the way he should, imo. The media and DS etc. are trying to ignore the states’ responsibilities in all this and blaming PT for every little item against him they can twist and turn negatively against him, as usual.

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        • M says:

          But if state Governors are violating the federal constitution in their lockdown orders, then the President and the DOJ do have a reponsibilty to intervene.

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          • annieoakley says:

            The DOJ has done nothing but go after law-abiding citizens including President Trump! Why would they change and protect us and President Trump now?

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        • vikingmom says:

          Yes!! This is what so many people do not realize because it has not been clearly defined. The President called for a 15 day pause, which included recommendations for social distancing, in order to assess the potential trajectory of the outbreak and to give communities time to adequately prepare. He DID declare it to be a National Emergency but that was for the purpose of allocating Federal funds,

          Every time he was asked by the media why he wouldn’t just declare a National Shutdown, the President was very clear to explain that he was respecting the 10th Amendment and allowing the Governors to make the decisions for their states. By doing this, he removed the ability of the Left/MSM to “blame” him for any economic collapses. He did NOT order businesses to close, he did NOT shutter cities and close down courts, he is NOT ordering citizens to wear masks in public or face fines and jail time, he is NOT restricting access to FDA approved medications …that is ALL on the various Governors and I hope the American people wake up and realize it!!

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Humans make those models work. Humans are responsible for adjusting them when they are going wrong or as the reality of the situation unfolds. You ignorantly seem to continue to omit that part of the argument.

        To listen the first time the humans peddle their model fine, that is to err on the side of caution. But to stand by while HUMANS do nothing to adjust their models and then fudge the data inputs to make their models spit out a desired outcomes is flat wrong. That is the part you keep omitting and you know you are omitting it.

        This particular President should know better as he has dealt with models his entire business life to make and adjust his business decisions. I will grant he has a tougher road to walk on these decision because of political ramifications and shit storms he has to address. That aspect of his dilemma is the only thing mitigating my thoughts about staying with President Trump as being the right guy, the only guy to follow at this point in time.

        Hopefully he begins to move the US down the “reopening path” soon and not allow the cretins doing the math to justify their theories continue.

        You are no better than Doctors Funsanulo and Bixie Dust in your utter willful blindness to the damage they are purposely creating either to arrogantly support some theory they refuse to abandon or for political gain of their crones, if not both both.

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    • Zephyrbreeze says:

      Bayes Theorem show that models can be updated with NEW information about probabilities. Those updated probabilities get us close and closer to the truth.

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    • Garavaglia says:

      Yes. There needs to be an inquiry, senate hearings.

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      • Zorro says:

        by Ms. Lindsey Graham

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      • Back in the 90 s a statistician postulated and proved that if you go 4 hops out someone you know ,who they know , who they know ,at that point was “3/4 of the US population.
        With social media that is infinitely more and possibly it only takes 3 hops now
        I have asked( kept track ) 73 people if they or any one they knows personally knows anyone hospitalized with corona virus.
        All negative.

        You should try that wen you are out.
        IMHO
        This is the Worldwide pandemic drill discussed last fall at Event 201
        It is also why nothing makes sense.

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    • Buckeye says:

      Models can be made to show whatever the modeler would like to show. These models have been garbage from the beginning and are being the venue to destroy our economy and many small businesses. Yes, common sense suggests that social distancing has helped stop the spread of COVID-19, but, to the degree of change in these models? Really? True leadership will be shown when a governor steps up and recognizes he/she needs to balance the economic well-being of the majority of the states’ citizens with the need to protect the vulnerable (which most individuals can do themselves). Taking the safe route of “not letting up know” (are you listening Governor Dewine?) is cowardice and weakness when there is so much economic damage. Sadly, many governors have never signed the front of a paycheck and only know “politics,” which is so often void of common sense. I’ve always said that many people (not all!!!) work for the government because they can’t make it in the private sector and this crisis is really proving that point. Let’s get the economy open, now!

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    • suejeanne1 says:

      and for heaven’s sake, do NOT refer to it as the Wuhan virus or anything that would stigmatize the Chinese people

      link to article on the “South China Morning Post” (scmp.com) on the scientific journal – “Nature” – aplogizing

      (“scientific journal” – I wonder what Galileo would say)

      https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3079293/coronavirus-nature-magazine-apologises-reports-linking-covid-19

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    • Charlie Currie says:

      Computer modelers are one rung below astrologers. It’s all, garbage in – garbage out. I known, I was a computer modeler.

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  2. Dora says:

    It’s what they always do!

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  3. Sharon says:

    We want our country and sovereign citizenship back.

    They can only take away our rights and order us like she because we are assets of a corporation.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1224088728106348551.html

    “You were supposed to die, dammit.”…NWO 👈🏻

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  4. CTH Fan says:

    Mr. President,

    Since the Dems are blocking a stand alone bill for small business I strongly suggest that you open up small business only and on the 15th, sighting that the damage to small businesses is a national security issue. Especially given the new unemployment claim numbers.

    The delay by the Democrat Party is injurious to the nation, all for their political gain. This cannot be allowed to happen. Take names and broadcast them at the next press briefing.

    Thank you Sir.

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    • dow40kby2024 says:

      Not sure if POTUS shut down any businesses. The Governors from each state have………

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      • Joebkonobi says:

        Correct. POTUS supported voluntary social distancing guidelines and mitigation with no official orders or edicts. The Gov’s are the one’s that took those guidelines and mitigation and turned them into emergency regulations in their states. Kudos to those Gov’s that did not go there.

        With that said I believe POTUS will need to suggest when it is appropriate to implement a strategy to get America back to work again. Will be interesting to see that strategy. I’m sure it will include working with the Gov’s.

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        • Catherine Thompson says:

          Fauci, Pence and Birx were on the phone to these Governors asking them to shut down their states. While President Trump was saying it was up to the Governors. I’m not so sure he knew/knows what those three were up to. However, We need to open the country for business – NOW! Sidney Powell stated what the governors are doing is illegal!. AG Bar said it was draconian and we need to get back to work, instead of hiding our head.

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    • jimrockfish says:

      As a sole proprietor and completely out of business at the moment, this political crap is nauseating. We are real people out here you damn politicians!

      Our government is so long gone. Thank God for President Trump. He and some people in his administration are the only ones fighting for us.

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    • jimrockfish says:

      As a sole proprietor and completely out of business at the moment, this political crap is nauseating. We are real people out here you damn politicians!

      Our government is so long gone. Thank God for President Trump. He and some people in his administration are the only ones fighting for us.

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    • Charlie Currie says:

      He really can’t. The governors control the game. He can suggest it, but if the governors balk, there’s nothing he, or we, can do.

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  5. WeThePeople2016 says:

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Anne Lowery is a genius. When this is over then all those people on UI can go back to their non-existent business. Or, stay vassels of the state at $450/wk.

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  6. azgulch says:

    A sign of our times… I live on the flight path to Pinal Airpark, where airlines mothball planes until they are needed. In the past 2 to 3 weeks, there are 6 to 7 planes coming in each day, nice new ones, the 767’s, 777’s, and some Airbuses. Normally 1 or 2 per week fly overhead, and this is mostly for Class 3 overhauls. I know this because I’m stuck in this house.

    I might just go over there and take some pictures to post.

    I’m tired of seeing and hearing Covid 19 stuff. Open up the country, if I catch it I’ll take the HCQ cocktail and keep on going ( although CVS said the HCQ was on backorder, imagine that)

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    • jimrockfish says:

      Azgulch – I’m in Tucson. Feel your angst. If you take pics I’ll be looking at them. Ducey caved in and screwed we Arizonans.

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    • Little Berkeley Conservative says:

      I’m on a flight path to SFO and traffic overhead is dropped from a guesstimate of 50 per day to about four a day.

      I don’t miss the flights coming from China as they shake the house and drown out the hoot, hoot, hoot hoot 🦉

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  7. IGiveUp says:

    Barr: “No basis” for Crossfire Hurricane, “one of the greatest travesties in American history”

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/04/09/barr-no-basis-crossfire-hurricane-one-greatest-travesties-american-history/

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  8. Sharon says:

    Here is a very good repentance prayer and other things on this website by Mark Taylor ! Please treepers pray this repentance prayer everyday! http://www.sordrescue.com

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  9. Tagalong says:

    I’ve been watching the press conferences daily all the way thru to the end. I enjoy most all but the two doctors seem to not contribute much overall but fearmongering.

    Today when I woke up I decided to go out to the local food city, shelf’s are much better stocked though light on some items. Picked up a ham for Easter, not Smithfield brand. A few other things but didn’t need much. Wore a mask.

    Asked for manager but was his day off so I talked to assistant asked how many employees over all and he was unsure. Asked could he hold the $1000 I had for the manager to distribute to the employees who are on the front lines and he took name and number and put in safe. I was hoping to have at least $10/ person but may be short. Hoping corporate will chip in on that. Chic filet was going to deliver food for them even though they’re forty miles away.

    I have several rentals and mortgages and have told those affected by this shut down that I’m sure you will catch up when the unemployment people get off their butts and approve the claims. My experience is that both MI& TN are being overwhelmed.

    We are in this together and some have more pain than others though we all have some and at the same time we all have a part to play.

    Anyway everybody stay safe and though I’m not overly religious I believe our resurrection will start next week. Don’t buy anything from China or any other communist country.

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    • wondering999 says:

      Yes and… your local university is Marxist Country. I love and value education, but push back on what they are selling.

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  10. Mo says:

    Any scientific geniuses with us today?

    https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/07/2004999117

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  11. gda53 says:

    As we zero in on those most culpable in permitting the Wuhan virus to escape into the world (like the Chinese CCP and it’s lickspittle enabler, the WHO), let’s not forget that we have no good reason to expect them to be our friends.

    But what about those who SHOULD be our friends. Those who should know better yet failed to protect us because they ignored all (unintended perhaps?) consequences of their actions because of their greed and lust for power.

    So let’s give a hat tip to the person who enabled the Chinese Government to detect and kill virtually all the US human assets within China (CIA etc.), leaving us blind when we otherwise might have detected this threat long before it exploded.

    She Who Must Not Be Named.

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    • Mo says:

      How to take down the CCP

      Hire Ret.General Robert Spalding. Send him to Hong Kong to recruit & train spies from the native population. Find a way to transmit internet to the Chinese people that allows them access to our information (modern radio free europe) and frees them of CCP propaganda by bypassing the great china internet firewall.

      Send in the spies when the Chinese people rise up against the CCP.

      easy peasy chineesy

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    • gda53:
      Monumentally important point!
      And in this regard, the President bagged yet another grand slam home-run yesterday( breaking his own record of presidential grand slams!) with his forceful and blunt dressing-down of the World Health Organization, exposing it as a Communist front-organization!

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    • Hans says:

      For those who wonder..
      She Who Must Not Be Named…
      Had a private server that was hacked ?.. by a foreign nation that allowed it to neutralized approximately 20 people…. the foreign nation recently had a huge virus problem that they hid….
      She has a great foundation that accepted donations from foreign states.. while working at a government job.

      Last 2 Hints….
      Working for the US State Dept. did not know what “C” stood for in classifications.
      Misplaced and deleted thousands of emails…

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    • Doppler says:

      Great point, Gda53.

      HRC’s security breach on her server, apparently sending every message to the CCP, apparently resulted in the elimination of how many US spies helping the US from China? The subversion of the FBI under Comey into exoneration is brought into greater clarity when we consider that all those embedded Chinese who longed for liberty instead of the CCP were rounded up and killed.

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  12. Dora says:

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    • Publius2016 says:

      x1000

      Let us pray…

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      • Shelley Childs says:

        Heavenly Father, we thank you and praise you for our country. Please thwart the evil plans of men, and expose the evil deeds of men so that they will not escape justice, and rescue from destruction the innocent, the helpless, the unwary, and the unsaved. Protect those facing persecution, blessing and shielding them, and touch the hearts of their persecutors, lifting the veil, so that they will recognize their sin, repent, and trust Jesus Christ as savior.

        Father we pray that you would give us politicians who have clarity, integrity, and passion for what is right. Give them great intelligence to solve problems, but please give them great strength of character, to stay away from anything corrupt or sinful as well.

        Bless all who love us and all whom we love. Bless and protect Donald Trump, Mike Pence, all incoming Cabinet Members and Aides to the President, all lawmakers who uphold Biblical principles, law-keepers in all branches of the military and in all law enforcement agencies and ALL of their families, and work your good and perfect will in their lives this day, so that they will lead spiritually fruitful, spiritually productive lives, and as happy, healthy, and long as you have appointed with your good and perfect will, free from malevolent interference.

        Protect us from a slow agonizing destruction we pray.

        In Jesus’ name, Amen.

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    • kallibella says:

      Please pray the evil/wrong/deceptive/selfish agenda/destroy America/marxist/social-distancing-is-the-new-norm counsel that are presented to POTUS come to nothing. Pray the Lord to cancel them all and to enable those with true wisdom from above present their counsel to the President. Pray for POTUS to stay strong and to have wisdom and boldness to do what is right for Americans.

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    • Jeff says:

      Diamond and Silk, front and center.
      At the President’s right hand.
      As it should be.
      God bless those ladies!

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  13. bertdilbert says:

    Democrats are playing funding games again. Trump needs to open things back up. The only way to get the dems to open is to deny them a state bailout funding. The states cannot go on without money. Throw it back at them.

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  14. Charles Darwin says:

    Where are the model forecasts of how many lives/families/businesses/careers will be destroyed by this continuing shut down? Based on today’s unemployment numbers it’s running more than 1200-to-1 over coronavirus deaths.

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    • lackawaxen123 says:

      and the destruction over the next few months and years will make the covid death count a rounding error … done on purpose by Governors …

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    • gda53 says:

      Tucker showed the figures for Suicides and Drug Overdoses in the US – nearly 120,000 per annum.

      How much will both those shoot up as the idiot 2some strive to save EVERY SINGLE life that might be lost because of the virus?

      The mission was to prevent the complete destruction of the US medical infrastructure and its personnel. This was THE reason for the shutdown. MILLIONS would die they said. Remember Cuomo ranting about the 30,000 ventilators? He TRULY believed it because the “experts” said it would happen.

      It did’nt. Thanks experts.

      So, now mission accomplished

      PDJT will not sit idly by while these “experts” destroy the US, and by extension the World, economy.

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  15. Publius2016 says:

    Dimms are moving the goal posts again…

    Today Fake News on Covid 19 strains show February 2020…

    REWIND PRESSER TAPES! Drs. Brix and FaucIII admitted December 2019 was when the initial Virus hit NYC and LA…

    45 closed border in January to the Chinese Virus when W H O C D C N I H said all was well!

    time to open up the USA for Business!

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  16. BuckNutGuy says:

    What has me especially hacked off today is that of course there will be millions of our $ pumped into various academic/bureaucratic institutions for years to come in order to study “how we can do better next time” and “what went wrong”. Those studies and all that money will go to the very same people who so spectacularly screwed it up this time. Lifelong gravy train, academic tenure and personal wealth (most professors personally pocket 20-40% of all grant money) handed out to them due to their own incompetence. Mind numbing to think about.

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  17. TMonroe says:

    As it comes out that ventilators are being seen as problematic as a recovery mechanism, a mainstream headline comes out that gives cover to sliding away from the ventilator clarion call — but without coming down on the push for them and the associated political talking point carried in the media and taken up by Andrew “40K ventilators” Cuomo.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-some-doctors-are-moving-away-ventilators-virus-patients-n1179986

    “The reason: Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be harming certain patients. The evolving treatments highlight the fact that doctors are still learning the best way to manage a virus that emerged only months ago. They are relying on anecdotal, real-time data amid a crush of patients and shortages of basic supplies.”

    Yet the media didn’t seem to lead with the reality that this was an evolving situation, but often looked like they blamed the president alone for issues and then fit things like ventilator in hers to fit the narratives, even when the numbers didn’t add up.

    “Mechanical ventilators push oxygen into patients whose lungs are failing. Using the machines involves sedating a patient and sticking a tube into the throat. Deaths in such sick patients are common, no matter the reason they need the breathing help.”

    Want to guess how many of those deaths are still being called covid deaths, which both boosts the numbers used to justify the lockdown and reportedly funnels monies to the parties making that attribution?

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    • Reserved55 says:

      From what I’ve read: It’s not ARDS Acute respiratory distress syndrome, that’s why.

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    • BuckNutGuy says:

      In three months anyone will be able to buy a ventilator an amazon for $5. The gov’t will be calling for ways to convert them into pumps to blow up pool inflatables.

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    • CheetoGuido says:

      WAIT, HOLD UP… Doctors are relying on anecdotal, real-time data amid a crush of patients……. So then Hydroxychloroquine should be okay to used based on anecdotal, real time data that it works!!!

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  18. Reserved55 says:

    The Communist News Network changes headline to support the CPUSA

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  19. sunnyflower5 says:

    We know who is really diseased 😷

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  20. Greg1 says:

    Communist News Network licking the boots of their democrat masters, seeking their favor after correcting the truth first posted, so as to hide what their democrat masters did to Americans.

    This stuff is amazing to watch. And sickening, too.

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  21. JohnCasper says:

    One day at least in every week
    Nation stopping threats of every kind
    Fauci and Birx are sure to seek
    And just as sure to find

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  22. WeThePeople2016 says:

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    • It’s also a flagrant LOGICAL FALLACY for the “experts” to simply (jump to) conclude that their social distancing and economic self-destruction policies lowered Wuhan Virus impacts. If these “experts” are this poor at basic logic, why should we trust them with the proverbial “rocket science”?

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      • ltravisjr says:

        Also, just referring to the opinion of said experts to prove your argument commits the “appeal to authority” fallacy.

        I guess the example of Fauci shows why.

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    • Garavaglia says:

      Brit is exactly right.

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    • sunnyflower5 says:

      2.2. Million Model included people taking all the recommended mitigation steps and social distancing.

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      But in doing so, the models also assumed airborne transmission of the virus. Strange as it may seem, and even though this virus (like all cold viruses) “likes the lungs,” the usual mode of transmission is contact.

      Which is probably the key reason why counts did not go down when “social distancing” and “economic shutdown” were put in place.

      The right answer would have instead be to “do the things you ordinarily should do to avoid “catching a cold.” Wash your hands, sneeze into your shirt sleeve, don’t touch your eyes and nose. Because, the two most common causes of “the common cold” are rhinoviruses and … coronaviruses.

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  23. Mo says:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/04/07/new-data-shows-us-companies-are-definitely-leaving-china/#29dc73fe40fe

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  24. sunnyflower5 says:

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  25. Jimmy R says:

    Let’s give Fauci his 60,000 deaths. The question is how many deaths would there have been if, instead of destroying the economy, we had kept the vulnerable isolated and urged every American to (A.) wash hands frequently, (B.) keep some distance from others, and (C.) do not touch your face without washing your hands. The other question concerns how many lives have been destroyed by the destruction of the economy. I doubt that doing only A, B, and C would have resulted in as much destruction as the path we took. I think we lost a bet.

    This is what we need to do:

    1. We need to have a national policy recommendation to the states of being ready, in the event of another pandemic/epidemic, to carry on with business while doing A, B, and C above.
    2. If the epidemiologists tell us that a pandemic is too severe to be mitigated by such a policy, then they need to bring proof, not just scary models.

    Life is a gamble. In this case, it seems that we gambled with scary models and lost. There should be no next time.

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  26. FAKE STATS:

    “If I had an 86-year-old with pneumonia but never tested for COVID-19 but we learned she had been exposed to her son who had no symptoms but was identified with COVID-19, it would be appropriate to diagnose on the death certificate COVID-19,” Dr. Scott Jensen said.

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  27. sunnyflower5 says:

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  28. Waymore says:

    Barr says in part two of Laura’s interview: “what happened to POTUS is greatest travesty in American History, with no basis for investigation. Even more concerning, was what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events to sabotage the President.”

    Sounds promising, indeed.

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    • Hans says:

      Not buying anything until there are perp walks.. indictments….DOJ porn hope…until then

      How long should it take with these corrupted FBI officials who lied to the FISA court to be indicted.. years.. it’s not we haven’t seen the data..

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    • Jimmy R says:

      Just wait. Two more weeks and there will be hundreds of thousands dead. Because the models say it’s very serious.

      Just wait. A few more years and cities will be under water and there will be superstorms. Because the models say it’s very serious.

      Just wait. Barr is gonna get the members of the coup d’etat! Because he says it’s very serious.

      Barr’s behavior is consistent with a swampster blowing smoke up our behinds. It’s also consistent with a just man who is about to drop the hammer on the miscreants.

      As someone said upthread, the case is very complex and takes time to build. Okay. Patience. I can wait. Another year, max. No longer.

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      • AloftWalt says:

        If our PDJT doesn’t get re-elected, it will all just disappear.

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        • Hans says:

          No I have another opinion on that…
          If you listen to the presser.. PDT was blind sighted… by Deep State Moles..
          Jan…Fauci convinced PDT to trust them.. they were experts.. Virus cannot be transmitted human to human..
          PDT does presser stopped flights to China this will soon be over.
          Dr. Fauci says no need to close border with China… (lied).. he’s an expert.
          PDT sees virus spread to Italy.. (what Fauci hoped would happen in US..
          PDT stops flight from Italy
          Situation in Italy deteriorates rapidly.. social isolation/quarantine entire country
          Mid March Dr Fauci and Dr. Birx corner PDT.. you have a problem.. the United States will have 2 million deaths in less then a month.. you must quarantine the whole nation.. provide models to prove their point. PDT acts issues emergency order..

          PDT finds out Dr. Fauci and Dr Birx.. mis-represented the facts thru omission…

          ……Pelosi and Adam Schiff start new impeachment probe…

          Time for PDT to declare Martial Law… and clean house military tribunals… it’s become very obvious that Government Corruption/deep state operatives that the constitution has been soiled beyond recognition… MSM is not free put a chinese puppet… like most of congress

          I will answer the call and mobilize if called… there is no other option… live free or die..

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    • Sprawlie says:

      Thanks for posting, Mo!

      Eye opening reporting on the actions taken by certain IGs appointed in 2015 during Spygate. Deep dive that helps explain the latest IG shake up in the broader Spygate context. Important connection to Lovinger, ONA, and Halper I had not heard about.

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  29. Ausonius says:

    In order to keep the Wuhan Flu a 24/7 obsession, local T.V. news just ran a report on…

    (I am NOT making this up!)

    …an Ohio man who invented ear protectors for face-masks! 😉

    I suppose if you are a surgeon, nurse, etc. in an 8-hour operation, that would be nice to have.

    Anyway…

    We have stopped watching complete news shows, and simply try to time things for the weather report. But this item came on first.

    Truly “nothing to see here, move along” reporting!

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  30. Reserved55 says:

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  31. The Dems blocking the proposed bill in the Senate should be the VERY FIRST topic on PDJT’s agenda at the next press briefing. Call the bastards out BY NAME. It would be great if he “could” say something to the effect that he signed the first one loaded with Democrat PORK only because the country was suffering and needed immediate relief.

    It would be even better if he “could” say he will NOT sign another bill that is loaded with Democrat OR Republican PORK……he’s not going to hold the suffering American citizens hostage to any partisan Democrat agenda.

    MAGA…..now, I need that drink.

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  32. Reserved55 says:

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  33. gda53:
    Monumentally important point!
    And in this regard, the President bagged yet another grand slam home-run yesterday( breaking his own record of presidential grand slams!) with his forceful and blunt dressing-down of the World Health Organization, exposing it as a Communist front-organization!

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  34. howardrichman says:

    President Trump isn’t the only one who is bypassing the Washington bureaucracy in an attempt to find a solution to COVID-19. In response to a request from Detroit Mayor Michael Dugan and Metro Detroit health care experts, the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit has announced the WHIP COVID-19 study to find out whether HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) works as a prophylactic.

    They are now asking for volunteers among healthcare workers and first responders, people who are likely to come into contact with those who are sick from the virus. It will be a randomized, double blinded study, and the first results will become available about 4 weeks after the experiment begins — probably around June 1.

    This is huge news! The health care community in Detroit is not willing to wait for the slow-moving healthcare bureaucrats in Washington to come up with a treatment and/or a vaccine. If they find that HCQ works as a prophylactic, that shows that it also works as a treatment. Moreover, it can be prescribed to everybody at risk who can take it daily so that they won’t get COVID-19.

    https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/04/hfhs-leads-national-study-to-determine-drugs-effectiveness-in-preventing-covid19

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  35. bertdilbert says:

    The democrats screamed “We want pre existing conditions covered!”.
    Trump said “We will cover pre existing conditions!”
    So God sent the Corona virus.

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  36. Dora says:

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Or maybe many of these DS evil doers would have thought twice about over hyping and leveraging this crisis had any of the issues below been prosecuted and thus showing that the rule of law does exist and prevail in American because right now millions of Americans feel there is a two tier system of justice.

      Those outside the DOJ/FIB vs those inside the DOJ/FIB.

      1) Uranium One – No Crimes, No Indictments
      2) Hammer 47 Hard Drives – No Crimes, No Indictments
      3) Anwan Brothers – No Crimes, No Indictments
      4) HRC Unsecured Server & 33K Emails – No Crimes, No Indictments
      5) Wiener Laptop Email Contents – No Crimes, No Indictments (outside Wiener)
      6) DNC Server Hack – Alleged Crime, No Indictments
      7) Seth Rich murder – No arrests
      8) Fake Dossier and fraud on FISA Court 4 times – No Crimes, No Indictments
      9) Years of FISA Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
      10) Years of FIB Contractor Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
      11) Carter Page FISA Leak – No Crime for Leaking (just one count lying)
      12) Numerous other Classified Leaks – No Crimes, No Indictments
      13) Numerous referrals to DOJ – No Crimes, No Indictments
      14) Numerous Agents violating policy – No Crimes, No Indictments
      15) Ukraine WB fraud – No Crimes, No Indictments
      16) Impeachment Fraud and made up narrative by House Leader – No Crimes, No Indictments
      17) Ukraine Money Laundering – No Crimes, No Indictments
      18) Epstein – No Crimes, No indictments
      19) Withholding and then losing exculpatory evidence and records in the General Flynn case as alleged by Sidney Powell.

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      • Bogeyfree says:

        PS – Feel free to link this reply to James Woods twitter since I don’t tweet as IMO he should see this list and how when there is no sheriff present, the outlaws just run a muck!

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  37. k4jjj says:

    It is time for the President to declare the broadcast television stations in the United States have a legal obligation to carry the entirety of the White House daily TV briefings on this public health crisis over the air. The Federal Communication Commission license of every television license holder requires the station to operate in the public interest and necessity.

    FCC broadcast licenses are granted by the federal government with specific condition that the use of any radio or television broadcast frequency in the United States of America is a privilege not a right.

    Television broadcast licenses in the U.S. can be revoked by the FCC for failure to act in the public interest.

    All TV broadcast frequencies in the United States belong to the public, not to the television networks. This is a legal truth the TV networks are hoping most Americans don’t know and won’t learn.

    The President of the United States is fulfilling his leadership obligation to keep the public informed.

    Television networks have hijacked TV broadcast frequencies during this emergency by their anti-Trump, politically-based decisions to interrupt and cut short vital updates of government actions in an emergency. In this national emergency, this is a violation of federal law relating to the issuance of television broadcast licenses.

    The FCC can preempt all entertainment broadcasts in a public emergency. Neither the networks nor the television license holders have a “right” to ignore the public interest, especially in a national emergency. This is a legitimate national emergency in which many rights and liberties have been suspended throughout the country in the interest of public health and safety.

    Americans have been ordered to stay home and are threatened with fines and imprisonment if they don’t. They have committed no crime but are under house arrest. Sitting at home, Americans are eager for regular and detailed updates on their grim plight and uncertain future.

    The broadcast television networks have no legal right to hold their affiliated TV license holders hostage to their biased political leanings.

    National TV media outlets have demanded government action to protect health and save lives.

    It’s time for the President to do just that by threatening to revoke FCC station licenses of all TV stations that preempt the daily TV broadcast of vital health crisis updates in the present national emergency. This is an unprecedented abuse of network power to bully TV license holders to prevent the broadcast of vital information during a national crisis. This information is also an important reassurance from the top that the nation is mobilized and the virus will be defeated. Americans want hope and action, not relentless, politically-motivated scare tactics to worried millions who are stuck in their homes.

    This is transparent, illegal action done out of personal hatred for Donald Trump, the duly elected President of the United States.

    There is a hue and cry from the media the President should have acted sooner and yet the TV networks want to restrict the public’s right to be fully informed of the President’s current actions. Those media Leftists demand President Trump act but want to hide his actions from the public if those actions are bold examples of good leadership the public appreciates and would shed a positive light upon Donald Trump.

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    • The American Patriot says:

      It’s like the weather, especially during severe weather season, because it’s look as an educational requirement. Failure to do so can result in the loss of life or property.

      Same thing applies here!

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  38. Bogeyfree says:

    Dear Mr. President,

    The media no longer represents the people.

    So I ask that you consider taking one or two of your daily briefings and use it to respond to sent in questions by real blue collar Americans.

    Benefits:
    1) Your team can assemble and respond to some of the most asked questions.

    2) Your team has time to prepare and lookup any data necessary to respond to a question

    3) You will get real questions about CV and not the bogus, non stop, gotcha questions.

    With this said here are two questions that have never been asked and won’t be asked by the MSM.

    1) Of all the Americans who have been hospitalized due to CV, how many have been given The Trump Cocktail? (Hydroxychloroquine + z-pack + zinc)

    2) Of those given the Trump Cocktail how many have recovered or been released from the hospital?

    3) Finally have you considered investigating the accuracy of the CV death counts as it appears doctors have been told to code deaths as COVID-19 deaths even if the patient did not test positive for the virus and even if they had just symptoms.

    So if I died truly from cancer, heart disease, pneumonia or even the real flue but had a fever or a cough or trouble breathing at the time of death it sounds like doctors are expected to code that death as COVID -19

    This seems totally wrong and purposeful to mislead the American public.

    You have been great in your response to this or hyped crisis but with the truth beginning to come out I hope you will reopen our country ASAP.

    MAGA

    I don’t tweet but would welcome if someone could link this to Don Jr and Mark Meadow twitter so maybe it can get to PT back door.

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  39. MaineCoon says:

    Drip…drip…drip. Intel is going to unredact some crap, not for us to see, but for our illustrious House & Senate Committees. Linsay is right on it.

    A John Solomon article excerpted below with the link.
    .
    This is not new information to us OR them.

    I no longer care about much of any of this. It has been intentionally dragged out for years. Barr is now the gatekeeper and conveniently is now covered by COVID-19 for anyone to listen to this stale 5-yo news.

    Crooks. All of them.

    FTA: U.S. intelligence has decided to declassify several redacted footnotes from a recent Justice Department report that will expose more problems with the FBI’s investigation into President Trump’s campaign, including that agents possessed evidence their main informant may have been the victim of Russian disinformation, Just the News has learned.

    The previously redacted footnotes are likely to raise new concerns that the FBI ignored flashing red warning signals about the informant Christopher Steele and gave a false picture in briefing materials supplied to Congress.

    The declassified sections from Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s December review of FBI FISA abuse could be made available to key Senate and House committees as early as the end of this week, according to people familiar with the effort.

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/russia-case-footnotes-be-declassified-exposing-fbi

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  40. Reserved55 says:

    “Suspected” WuFlu.

    So in other words maybe never.

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      Good luck with that. There isn’t room in New York City for people to keep their distance.

      No matter what you do, an extremely crowded city is going to be a place where a cold virus can readily propagate.

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  41. Troublemaker10 says:

    Even liberals in Australia are calling WHO out.

    ———-

    How Australia IGNORED the World Health Organisation and stayed one step ahead on COVID-19 – after the WHO argued against closing the border, refused to call the virus a ‘pandemic’ and heaped praise on China

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8198757/amp/How-World-Health-Organisation-failed-Australia-coronavirus.html?__twitter_impression=true

    Excerpt:

    Fellow Liberal MP Dave Sharma also criticised the WHO on Wednesday. He told the ABC: ‘I think the WHO’s revealed some serious shortcomings, and I think they’ve revealed themselves to be a politicised organisation.

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  42. Reserved55 says:

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  43. bleep21k says:

    1:25pm – Rush Limbaugh referring to an article/essay by Codevilla which I think should be heard as it incorporates (to me anyway) the “ruling class” = bill gates.

    https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/07/is-the-president-forgetting-politics-101/

    “Since the Ides of March, President Trump has placed himself on a path that the fundamentals suggest leads to political suicide. He did this by surrendering to the ruling class—Drs. Anthony Fauci, Deborah Birx, et al, not to mention House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)—his judgment on whether and for how long, and how the country should be shut down.

    This is of the greatest concern to the American people in general and to his voters in particular. By giving his imprimatur while suggesting that he is acting against his own better judgment, he fulfills the dictionary definition of tragedy.”

    A dangerous road for our President?

    Worries me…

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    • bleep- THANKS for this post! I too am more than a little bit worried and have been listening to Rush every chance I get.
      Every one of his shows has been OUTSTANDING.
      There is nobody better than Rush to make the case that maybe our President Trump should at least not give so much deference to the Deep State creeps like Fauci and Birx, if not get rid of them entirely.
      In my humble opinion, not only is their FRAUDULENT BS toxic and inflammatory, but it is approaching the level of Fear Porn.
      Rush is factually proving that this Lock Down has gone too far. He is quoting numbers and statistics.. Actual DEATHS are nowhere near what was projected even with their phony
      coding that now classifies virtually every death as being caused by Chi Com Flu/ Corona.
      I love and support our President and will stick by him, however nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes.
      I hope and pray that our President or one of his advisors is listening to Rush and heeding what he’s trying to tell him..

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  44. Paprika says:

    Let’s see if I can put this COVID-19 mess into perspective.
    If( and that is a big if), the latest and greatest COVID death projections are correct there will be 60,000 +/- deaths through August. OK, let’s go with that # regardless of how many COVID death reports are being tweaked.

    That’s less than 2% of 1% of our US population. 330,000,000 x 1% = 3,300,000 x 2% = 66,000.
    And we’ve sacrificed our economy, our way of life and well being, our freedoms and liberty for 2% of 1% of our population? Really?

    Now for the health care pivot:
    Think of all the money we spend for health care. Then think of all the time, research, studies, preparation, modeling, and money spent in the past 20 years to be “ready and prepared” for a epidemic or pandemic by cities, counties, states, and the federal government agencies that are responsible for just such an occurrence. And what do we have happening at the moment?

    We are supposedly over run and in dire straits of a “medical emergency” that has effected less than 10% of 1% (330,000 people) of our countries populace. (and 330,000 people in the hospital would mean that out of 432,596 positive cases 76% are hospitalized) –Really? Our medical infrastructure can’t even handle 10% of 1% of our population during a “surge”?

    Before this all started what # or percentage would you have thought we could handle during a serge? I would have thought at least 1% to 3% (3,300,000 to 10,000,000). I had no idea we were so “ill prepared”. Were you? More importantly, Why did we not know we were so ill prepared?

    I guess our fearless leaders were more concerned with getting re-elected and making money while the bureaucrats were more interested in protecting their budgets and grants for diversity studies and “genderisms”.

    I sure as hell hope we learn from this fiasco and actually become prepared! And why are we listening to “the experts” and government idiots that have left us this ill prepared to protect our health, our country, and our very lives?

    OK, done with my rant now!

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      One thing that strikes me about all this is – in my opinion – that our “for profit” vision of health care is for-the-birds.

      I believe that we are going to have to go back to the premise that “basic health care is an unalienable right … the right to life.” We cannot inject a profit-motive into it.

      Now … all that having been said … “how do we implement this?” I have no idea. I don’t know how to design a system that would actually work, “American Style,™” for a nation of 320 million people without running into the problems that vex systems that are ten times smaller and cover much less territory. (And: “Bernie doesn’t either. Bernie is and always has been a useless provocateur, nothing more.”)

      But, I think that we’re all going to have to put our collective heads together and figure out something brand-new that will work. Something that works so well that the rest of the planet promptly copies it and wonder why they didn’t think of it first …

      I submit that “what we have now” fails patients, providers, and financial stakeholders, all at the same time. If we put our minds and ingenuity to it, we can do better. Because … we are America.

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  45. Reserved55 says:

    Hydroxy “chlorine”?

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  46. Magabear says:

    15 million people now without jobs because A. Bill Gates wants his vaccine, and B. the demonrats want to damage PDGT’s economy so they can defeat him in November. This is pure evil.

    Shampeachment is now the second biggest hoax in U.S. history, far behind our current shamdemic hoax.

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    • WIVoter says:

      Bill Gates father was involved in the creation of Planned Parenthood. it wasn’t just the demonic Margret Sanders.

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  47. Bubby says:

    Good grief what is it with these Governors hoarding HCQ? Is there going to be a malaria pandemic? HCQ should be readily available for all outpatients at onset of COVID-19 not when they’re in the hospital on a ventilator! Come Governor Abbott give up the HCQ and stop listening to Dr. Fauci!!

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    • QuiAudetVincit says:

      I’ve been saying all along, governors are worried that lupus and rheumatoid arthritis cases will skyrocket over the next six weeks. Gotta be prepared, and all.

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    • III% says:

      Here is a thought. They might be restricting it a bit for a more profound reason. Until we get manufacturing of our drugs back in country, we are limited on supply. What we have needs to be guarded to care for those with chronic illness as well as to give to those most in need. Not pretty, but most likely true. Until we are independent for the manufacturing of critical supplies, we are at the mercy of others.

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