Report: Senate GOP Unites on Plan for Senate Impeachment Trial…

It looks like the beginning of a united plan for the Senate impeachment trial is in the works. According to a New York Post article the House impeachment managers would present their prosecution case; then President Trump’s designated lawyers will present his defense case; then the Senate will vote.

At least, that’s the plan being reported:

WASHINGTON – After weeks of behind-the-scenes debate, Senate Republicans have hit on their strategy for handling President Trump’s impeachment: a brief trial — with no witness testimony — and a fast acquittal.

“I’m ready to vote now,” Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Missouri) told The Hill. “I think the articles are a joke.”

But they don’t want to dismiss the House Democrats’ charges out of hand, as some Trump allies have proposed.

“It’s time for him to have his day in court,” Hawley said. “The president deserves to have due process.”

Trump, who was calling for a full-blown trial with multiple witnesses — including former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter — just three weeks ago, now supports the Senate leadership’s plan. (read more)

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287 Responses to Report: Senate GOP Unites on Plan for Senate Impeachment Trial…

  1. Rileytrips says:

    The Uniparty (ie most of our current DC elected politicians, MUST know by now that if they remove President Trump from office – from some botched procedure in the Senate – American patriots will rise up in anger like they’ve never even thought of before. It will destroy our country, and possibly allow an opening for our foreign enemies to attack us while we are all distracted.
    They better follow the rule of law. They better not allow a President who has committed no crime, or even allowed due process, to be removed from office.

    Liked by 22 people

    • mikeyboo says:

      Riley-I don’t believe those who conservatives view as enemies of this country are viewed as such by the Left. We can see the truth of that statement by the Left’s call for open borders which would be totally destructive to America.
      The Left’s economic policies would impoverish our people and make us easy prey for our enemies.
      Leaving us “distracted and vulnerable to our enemies” is not something that worries/concerns these people….at all.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Agreed. However the uniparty doesn’t care. They have to cover up their own corruption and don’t care how it’s done.

      Liked by 3 people

  2. MDNA I says:

    From the NY Post article

    “If we go down in the witness path, we’re going to want the whistleblower. We’re going to want Hunter Biden,” McConnell told Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade last week.

    I was right, & then some. McConnell checkmated Schumer. “WE” = at least 51 votes to do whatever he wants

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  3. JPinBalt says:

    So a Senate “trial,” no witnesses, pretty much just a vote.
    Dems will tout as a sham, no Bolton nor Mulvaney, yet on other side of coin, no CIAmarrelo, no Atkinson, Schiff, Shokin, Chalupa, et al.
    So, do we just get the standard time limit debate citing House docs, or debate over what constitutes “high crimes and misdemeanors” or if contempt of congress means anything when a judge has not ruled on compelling a subpoena?
    So it is make it all go away quick as possible in Senate as opposed copying to the standard House railroading and media show in other direction.
    Also note, normal rules of evidence do not apply. Guessing double jeopardy rule under Fifth Amendment applies to Ukraine or first article, but if unsatisfied House on acquittal wants to manufacture additional materially different articles of impeachment, nothing stopping them with the Blasey Ford no evidence hearsay strategy going into election, votes, and control of committees.

    While Pelopsi, Nadler, and Schiff seem to be in secure seats, would not be surprised with any Hail Mary play with loss of Congress in sights Nov 2020.

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    • Annie Ok says:

      President Trump getting his day in court would amount to a circular firing squad.You have to wonder just how many senators had their dirty fingers in the Ukraine cookie jar, and it may be more than Kerry’s, Biden’s or Pelosi’s sons. Lindsay, Romney, and McConnel (and others, you know McCain must have been involved) could also get caught. What a mess they are all in! And Trump is the only innocent one! But if I were Trump I would accept only a dismissal of the charges,which is what they deserve — not an acquittal.

      Liked by 4 people

  4. Gary Lacey says:

    The republicans should have Pelosi testify why she needs extra witnesses and why she thinks they hold the route to impeachment.
    I think Pelosi will have a different view if she is compelled to testify

    Liked by 1 person

  5. hokkoda says:

    I’ve been a proponent of a dismissal for months, but an outright acquittal works too, and would diffuse the court cases too. “Why do Democrats need all this crap tying up the courts for a trial that was already held and the President acquitted?” Going to court to get documents to persecute a President who has already been acquitted is silly, and the President would have an even stronger case (if that’s even possible at this point) that the Dems are just engaged in harassment.

    A full blown trial was never going to happen. The key here is swift. I’d like to see the Senate change whatever rule requires the House to “send” the articles too, to sort of dunk it in Nancy’s face. But I don’t always get what I want.

    Liked by 6 people

    • MDNA I says:

      Tom Fitton noted “A coup [d’;etat] needs speed [to succeed]” so it’s smart to use speed in the counter-attack

      Liked by 6 people

      • MDNA I says:

        On that note, when one looks at a good timeline of the Russian Revolution, there were technically 2, one in Spring 1917 & then October (it was only referred to as OCTOBER inside the USSR)

        The spring revolution took forever, most of the year, if you include not only all the popular uprisings but the period of the provisional government & what Lenin called the Dual Power

        The coup d’etat against the Provisional Government by the Bolsheviks was astonishingly fast & very little resitence was offered

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    • Issy says:

      Do you expect silly to stop these people?

      Liked by 1 person

  6. KBB says:

    With no defense witnesses called to testify, Pres. Trump will not “have his day in court”. Like every regular citizen, Trump has a right to question his accusers. McTurtle and Co are denying Trump that basic right by having prosecution lay out their charges, the defense lawyers defending the charges, then the “jury” (senate) votes. Also, having the ability to call witnesses in his defense is the most efficient way to drain the swamp by exposing them. Is that why McTurtle and Lindsey Graham want a rushed “trial” with no witnesses called? Are they afraid of being exposed, along with other swamp dwellers??

    Liked by 8 people

    • Everett Miller says:

      Do you really think that Lissy Graham could keep control of a wide-open free-for-all charge everybody with everything kitchen-sink “Hearing”?? Really? Absurd.
      All these hundreds of High Crimes by dozens of High-Level Criminals do need to be exposed–with indictments and Prosecutions in Court making CONVICTION AND PRISON possible; not politicians pontificating and preening and going down every rabbit hole and chocking on each other’s bee ess. Think about it!

      Liked by 5 people

    • Everett Miller says:

      Read the “charges” / articles into the record; read the response into the record; have a vote; “Guilty, or Not Guilty”. Acquit the man; go to lunch. Perfect. Keep the “Impeachment” a stand alone issue showing the Dem’s stupidity and Trump’s Innocence.
      all other stuff handled otherwise by the Justice Dept, not the politicians.

      Liked by 9 people

    • Dutchman says:

      KBB,
      YES. Next question?

      Liked by 3 people

    • John Ostrowski says:

      YES.

      Liked by 2 people

    • KBB: You underestimate President Trump. He will get his ‘day in court’ and ‘confront his accusers’; one way or another. I don’t believe it matters either way to him; as long as he gets to do it and he will; “that I can tell you”.

      Liked by 5 people

    • John Ostrowski says:

      Of course silly.

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    • John Ostrowski says:

      That’s about right.

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    • atomichillbilly says:

      You’re not looking at the big picture.

      Trump would be able to lay out his defense by simply presenting any evidence he decides to declassify.
      He can lay out the treasonous coup plot against him with any and all documentation he sees fit, and he won’t have to go through any leftover swamprat bureaucrats from previous administrations.

      Then he just drops the mike and gets acquitted.

      Next day, the REAL trials begin.
      And Barr doesn’t have to go begging and scratching for evidence, nor can he slowalk the inevitable.

      Stable genius indeed….

      Liked by 3 people

    • Mark L. says:

      Lindsey and McConnell are just trying to protect the Presidency without exposing their own corruption. Nothing here, move along.

      Liked by 4 people

    • BWTraveler says:

      That’s what I’m thinking, the more President Trump works on cleaning the swamp, the more swamp deep state players are being exposed. This includes Republicans as well and at present #45 must work with them to continue his work.

      Liked by 4 people

    • CaptainNonno says:

      My sense is that, if POTUS is ok with this, then DOJ/Barr/Durham will be prosecuting those same ‘witnesses’ beginning this year.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Brian in CA4 says:

      If the Senate held a “trial” and decided to have any witnesses of consequence (CIAramella, Wolfe, Bidens, etc.), the witnesses would either not show or they would likely plead the 5th. Anything that would happen in the Senate, just as was the case in the House, is political theater. The Senate won’t do anything to harm themselves or expose their widespread corruption across both parties.

      I have much more confidence in the real and consequential investigation being conducted by Durham. Bring on the indictments Mr. Durham.

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  7. islandpalmtrees says:

    Is an Impeachment, still an Impeachment when the people in the House responsible for the Impeachment are indicted for corruption? The federal court Judges would be seen, as fools, by the american people, for approving any of the cases presented by the Lawfare Group.

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  8. Drogers says:

    While almost nothing would please me more than to drag all this out in the Senate I also recognize the need to pt this behind us and move on to bigger and better things.

    Seating lifetime appointed Judges, continued work on the China trade agreement, securing our southern boarder, keeping close tabs on North Korea and Iran, etc etc …

    PDJT never ceases to amaze me w/ his ability to prioritize and focus on the problem at hand. But I also think one less problem on his desk would be a good thing.

    Liked by 12 people

    • Dutchman says:

      Actually, LOOK at the other Sundance posting, on the Home page; an 11 page list of PDJT’s accomplishments.

      That seems to be pretty good evidence that NOTHING the,Dems have done, and specifically not Mueller and not this shampeachment, has slowed him down, one bit!

      Given that, I think he could go fir a full blown TRIAL, with WTNESSES, and still deal with Norks, China, and all the other pots he’s got cooking on his,stove.

      The mans a dynamo. If he’s ‘happy’with this, than I am. There are many ways to expose the corruption, and timing may be crucial.

      Liked by 5 people

      • mikeyboo says:

        President Trump IS an individual with enormous energy but he is still an age 70 something man. I want his energy focused on continuing to improve our country-not chasing Democrat rabbits down never ending Democrat holes.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Dutchman says:

          You miss my point. The 11 page list of his accomplishments makes it pretty clear ( at least it seems clear to me) that he isn’t ‘wasting’ one moment of his time or energy “chasing Democrat rabbits down never ending rabbit holes”; that was a GOAL of the Uniparty.
          Part of their plan was a reprise of Nixon; deprive the POTUS of a staff, to carry out his agenda.

          And keep him on ‘Defence’, “hunkered down” in the,WH, appearing paranoid, etc.

          Thing is, PDJT didn’t fall for it, he didn’t “play along”, and it DIDN’T WORK.

          “According to all the laws of aerodynamics, and as may be readily demonstrated in a wind tunnel, the Bumble bee is unable to fly.
          This is because the mass of the body, is simply too great to be supported by the surface area of the wings.
          However,…nobody told the bumble bee. And so he DOES fly, and makes a little honey, too!”

          PDJT is that bumble bee, and rather than waste time chasing rabbits, he has obviously focused on flying, and making honey.
          He has flown so far, since 2016 its very difficult to even remember where we were, in 2016.
          And 11 pages of honey is a LOT.

          Liked by 3 people

          • mikeyboo says:

            I understand your point. My point is Pres Trump could be doing much more-with far less personal stress, strain and aggravation- if he didn’t have to deal with this impeachment crap.
            He -and we- need his health, energy and focus on the affairs of our country with as few distractions as possible.

            Liked by 2 people

            • Dutchman says:

              The contrary view is one of the things that “keeps him going” like an energiser bunny IS the constant attacks.
              He knew, he ANTICIPATED the swamp WOULD attempt to attack him, and derail his,agenda.
              Therefore, he knew he couldn’t “afford” to take time, he had to “race the clock” to, for instance rapidly turn the economy around, rebuild the military, etc.
              in part, in order to have a narrative which would directly counter the false narrative put out by his,detractors.

              According to his Dr, there is no discernable negative effect on his health.
              According to his performance, no drain on his energy and focus.
              ALL his enemies have succeeded in doing is distracting THEMSELVES with this foolishness, not HIM.

              DEREGULATION, for example is anathema to liberals and big government types. And yet he has brought about historic, unprecedented level of deregulation, with virtually no organised resistance to it, because THEY were all distracted chasing Mueller and Stormy.
              And deregulation was a KEY part of restoring Americas economic vitality.

              HE has remained focused on important stuff. THEY have only distracted themselves, with rabbit holes.

              This is just one example, that I got from the historian who had unprecedented access to PDJT, his family, and his staff, and who was interviewed recently.
              Posted here, sorry I can’t provide link.

              The one area where I would agree with your premise, is with regard to Russia.

              PDJT’s geopolitical strategy called for working WITH Russia, to play them off against China.
              I DO think this was obvious, to his detractors, and a secondary motive, or at least seen by them as a ‘bonus’, in the whole Russian collusion fiasco.

              After f*cking Flynn, and short of f*cking Trump, they saw it as VITAL to prevent any kind of coordination with Putin, as a counter to China.

              Bottom line, things would have been EASIER, if PDJT hadn’t had this Russia nonsense, preventing him from working more openly with Putin.

              Fortunately, DJT doesn’t DO easy, he just makes it LOOK easy!

              Liked by 2 people

            • Donzo says:

              You could also argue that the resistance has energized him and given him added value.

              Liked by 1 person

    • gerkmonster says:

      The Dems will just invent more fake problems once this one is gone. It’s really all they can do.

      Liked by 5 people

    • TPW says:

      How long after PT is out of office would it take for the unpunished to undo EVERYTHING?

      Liked by 1 person

  9. Ironclaw says:

    At this point, I’m all in favor of them setting a date (say, a week after the current recess has ended) regardless of whether or not the House has sent the Articles over. If that date arrives and there are no Articles and no house managers, then Trump wins by default.

    Liked by 6 people

  10. Carson says:

    Whiners are gonna whine.

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  11. Julian says:

    It’s the best way to do it.

    Get the relevant Senate committees and AG Barr’s DOJ go after the Bidens – as they should.

    No need to confuse the two in a jumbled partisan Senate impeachment trial which won’t achieve anything.

    Take the Win and Fight the Battle elsewhere.

    Assuming AG Barr is actually doing his job. Big assumption but surely President Trump knows?

    Liked by 3 people

    • The abuse of power charge is based on PDJT asking Ukraine to keep their investigations going. Towards that end the Repubs could call Hunter Biden and a few Ukrainian investigators (OAN has 3 hrs on this). For obstruction of congress the Repubs should call the whistle blower that coordinated with the Schiff camp. Mitch doesn’t need to invite grandstanding by sleepy Joe and dirty Schiff.

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  12. Hans says:

    IMHO I don’t believe McConnell wants to start a civil war that would interfere with his and his wife’s gravey train. He knows where all the bodies are buried. I’m sure he will whip the Republicans in line.
    President Trump at the start of his administration said he wanted congressional term limits. McConnel answered immediately … that ain’t going to happen.

    When McConnell came out with his statement we will coordinate … it was to give fuel to the democrats. The uniparty does not want to eliminate PDT. They want him as a weak figurehead.

    Liked by 2 people

  13. Newhere says:

    This position would cut against the democrat court arguments, which depend on their being a seemingly more robust Senate trial. I suppose they can argue they need the 6(e) material to stuff into the House Manager’s presentation of the case. But to state the obvious, that’s pretty weak.

    Liked by 2 people

  14. Jim Comey is a weasel_Doug says:

    Think how dangerous to the CorruptoCrats a lame duck POTUS will be. He can take a wrecking ball to that den of thieves!

    Liked by 5 people

  15. atomichillbilly says:

    Haha! That would be perfect!

    The dumbocrats would lay out their fevered wet dream, then Trump’s lawyers would drop a ton of declassified documents which prove within a shadow of a doubt that the whole thing was a treasonous coup plot.

    The senate acquits Trump, then the real trials begin.

    All of it live on global television.

    Liked by 3 people

  16. atomichillbilly says:

    Haha! That would be perfect!

    The dumbocrats would lay out their fevered wet dream, then Trump’s lawyers would drop a ton of declassified documents which prove within a shadow of a doubt that the whole thing was a treasonous coup plot.

    The senate acquits Trump, then the real trials begin.

    All of it live on global television.

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  17. ZurichMike says:

    And Nancy may add additional articles of impeachment later in 2020, so Trump can wait until then to unload on the Dems.

    He has all the leverage.

    Liked by 3 people

  18. Raymond Capwell says:

    The Dems have no first hand witness’
    The only one with first hand knowledge,said no quid pro quo.
    The obstruction of congress is BS,as they are supposed to go to court to break executive privlage.

    Liked by 3 people

  19. Guyski says:

    Some good advice for Chief Justice John Roberts, from the late Chief Justice William Rehnquist concerning the impeachment trial of President Clinton:

    ‘I did nothing in particular, and did it very well.'”

    🤔🧐🤫

    Liked by 4 people

  20. convert says:

    McConnell is absolutely right. The impeachment process is not the place to reveal and prosecute the entire Ukrainian corruption story. Leave that to real judicial process…

    Liked by 3 people

    • IGiveUp says:

      According to the article, what he actually said was:
      ““If we go down in the witness path, we’re going to want the whistleblower. We’re going to want Hunter Biden,” McConnell told Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade last week. “You can see here that this is the kind of mutual assured destruction episode that will go on for a long time.”

      Sounds to me like he’s protecting the UniParty Senators, not advocating for the Ukraine corruption story to be litigated in the courts.

      Liked by 2 people

  21. convert says:

    And Dems are threatening a second impeachment, more charges added to this one? Lol. Bring it on. The American people will annihilate them if they do that, right down to the local level. They won’t even win a local school board seat!

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  22. icanhasbailout says:

    This is the plan I wanted. 8+ months of the “defense” team dragging Dem after Dem onto the witness stand under oath.

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  23. John-Y128 says:

    The ‘video’ of VP Biden admitting to the world that he braced Ukraine by withholding aid is what he is accusing PDJT of doing, that means Biden being a patriotic American should ‘step down’ from running for president, less he wants a bipartisan ‘impeached’ starting on 01-20-2025!

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    • IMO sleepy Joe is not electable. I keep thinking that crooked will wait till the 2nd round at the convention and waltz in to steal the nomination from Bernie using the super delegates. It will be a repeat of 2016 only Bernie’s reward will be much bigger this time.

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    • Peppurr says:

      He’s going to regret doing that because Rudy just go back from the Ukraine with a ton of evidence, including more video!! Joe’s toast.;-)

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  24. Gunner says:

    We know what the outcome will be — or ‘should’ be. But, in the words of a criminal, treasonous hag, ‘what difference does it make’? The leftist progressives will continue to push and push and push right up to election day. And after the gnashing of teeth, and wailing, and rioting following the Trump landslide victory on 3 Nov 2020, it will resume.

    There’s not one on their side that will say ‘enough is enough, let’s get on with helping our Nation’. And, there’s not one on the other side — save President Trump — who has the gonads to shut ’em down.

    Just another day in our Republic.

    Liked by 1 person

    • William H Gilkerson says:

      That’s glass half full on steroids. You could look at it this way. The curious psychosis between the ears of Dems will lead to not only a temporary loss in the house or lull in thier power, It will bury them as a viable party. Think Whigs…………..

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  25. Santiago1314 says:

    Should be Summary Judgment… “DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE”… Otherwise; What Gets Rewarded, Gets Repeated.!!!…. If Senate Takes this Up, then House gets away with Shoddy Work Project and can Bottle up Senate Anytime they want… SCENERIO: RBG dies; House Sends over Articles(NEW or Old-On Hold)… Senate gets Frozen; Election Comes; Trump Loses; Dems get Seat.!!!

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  26. dahimm says:

    I do believe one witness is necessary (only one) and that is Eric Ciaramella, the whistleblower. Any fair trial requires that the defendant be able to face his accuser, and the law does not afford the whistleblower anonymity as is contended.

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  27. NJ Transplant says:

    This is also what Schumer wanted. Schumer threatened to have witnesses that are covered under executive privilege because he didn’t want any witnesses – like Joe and Hunter Biden.

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  28. Brenrod says:

    The anti trump witnesses were already called in house so trumps witnesses should now be called and exposed to public. The anti trumpers still control narrative that reaches public. The gop continues to block trump narrative to the public. They suppressed his narrative in senate intentionally in their intel committee review. All those gop who don’t call out burr crimes are complicit.

    Trump deserves a 3rd term to mitigate the deep state nullifying my presidential vote.

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  29. mynameisasherlev says:

    Sounds to me like Biden did his part for the uniparty- said he wouldn’t honor a subpoena. Which kills the whole trial plan for both sides. Really interesting that he did that for the GOP. He has a lot more juice than we thought.

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  30. Justin Green says:

    The Senate was never going to let a full trial with witnesses occur. The Senate is not where you go to set the record straight. Having Hunter and Joe Biden on the stand was never going to happen.

    Too many Senate Republicans have their hand in the Ukrainian cookie jars, too. As well as all the other cookie jars.

    Having Hunter Biden show up and plead the fifth to a bunch of questions is only marginally beneficial anyway.

    Not having a DOJ that will actually investigate all of this is is the tragedy here.

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  31. Bill Henslee says:

    Swift and clean. Get it over, even if it might be better politically to let it run to show the fecklessness of the Dems.

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  32. LouisianaTeaRose says:

    It’s fun and thought provoking to contemplate how this thing plays out. What is so fascinating about the possibilities is the insight Sundance has demontrated in assessing Trump’s actions and motives in his illustration of the FULCRUM: “Trump operates here”.

    Applying that dynamic tells me that Trump determines the necessary end/ends to be achieved, and engineers accordingly. This is where Sundance excels. Thank goodness, because I would be unable to figure that stuff out. In a nutshell: “… complicated business, folks…”.

    Trust Trump😁

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  33. Don says:

    And the left gets to walk away- claiming the Republicans are hypocrites for not allowing a Dem prosecution in the Senate, McConnell rigging an impartial outcome…… And that the Rs are not interested in the truth and want to cover for trump- and trump is the nutter, in need of castration.

    In the end, the media will write the history trump was guilty, but that a Republican Senate covered for him- and that’s what these corrupt men and women really want.
    I really hope Trump does not follow the wishes of corrupt Republicans and Democrats…..those supported by feckless commentary found in these blog comments- and “waste” the oh-so precious Senate time by defending himself properly….AS HE DID NOTHING WRONG in what he is being accused of.
    The TRUTH should never be disguised. Ever.

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  34. Cocoon says:

    The Republican Senate needs to note Dems in Congress are effecting schedules of the WH, Senate and Supreme Court.

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  35. Randolph Scott says:

    So, the democrats promise not to impeach PDJT the Senate promises to not bring the evil ones to Justice. This sounds like one of those ‘lets ram it in the dirt peoples backside/ass again’ things.

    I hate all politicians and 98% of the bureaucrats.

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  36. We are fundamentally faced with a thing that flies in the face of every single thing that our Founders clearly foresaw, based on sometimes very-bloody history, about “impeachment.” We must now dispose of it decisively, and in a way that refutes and thus disarms “Lawfare idiots.”

    These Articles are unconstitutional – without question – on two points: (1) that the President is accused of not one “crime” that is even defined in the United States Code, for which he could possibly face “indictment, trial, conviction and punishment” in Court; and (2) that what the House has written is a classic “Bill of Attainder,” expressly prohibited.

    If we don’t act decisively, the House will churn out a brand-new Bill of Attainder every week, and the 2020 Senate sessions will be occupied by nothing other than one “Trial” after another after another, even past the point when the Democrats are voted out of office “because we’re not out of office yet, and during that time we can approve eighteen more Articles!!” (C’mon … think like a Lawfare lawyer.)

    The Constitution, not Lawfare, is the “Supreme Law of the Land,” and every now and then we’re obliged to do things to make sure that this really is so. It’s just four pieces of vellum unless we periodically force it to be otherwise.

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