Inspector General Horowitz Releases IG Report Critical of FBI Confidential Human Resources Program…

Dept of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz publishes a report critical of how the FBI evaluates their Confidential Human Sources (CHSs) [Full pdf below].  This is the phase-1 OIG report the “Trust the Plan” crowd said was going to be explosive. It ain’t.

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341 Responses to Inspector General Horowitz Releases IG Report Critical of FBI Confidential Human Resources Program…

  1. Sam Gompers says:

    Horowitz is the Deep State cover-up expert. Sperry has documented how much this guy has swept up under the rug.

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    • ibid says:

      Horowitz’ report stinks of CYA as bad as Swalwell’s asspassgas.

      Liked by 1 person

    • covfefe999 says:

      This was just an audit. I think Sundance’s point is that certain people were thinking this report was going to be a biggie. The “trust the plan” crowd. The rest of us didn’t.

      Liked by 4 people

      • ms doodlebug says:

        What ‘the rest of us’ can understand is that evidence is continuing to be revealed that the FBI is not functioning as required. The FISA Court reports FBI misconduct. The Strzok court case tells us supervision of agents is inadequate, in some cases non-existent. In some cases, investigating agents don’t bother to investigate glaringly important leads. As a result, important cases have been compromised. Now the IG tells us the FBI does not validate confidential human resources as required. How surprised will we be to learn the FBI has been thoroughly, perhaps irreparably, corrupted by its previous leadership?

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    • Jederman says:

      I have to agree. He is not a courageous man. But he knows how to keep the DS happy.

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  2. Mark L. says:

    So Durham’s investigation will now be looking into the IG, maybe.

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  3. DJ says:

    Some FBI people didn’t live up to FBI standards. They’ll be holding more training sessions to correct the problems. All is well. Nothing to see here.

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    • Zippy says:

      Exactly, just as with FISC rule violations:

      FISA Court Rolls Over, Plays Dead
      Aug 28, 2013

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifergranick/2013/08/28/fisa-court-rolls-over-plays-dead/#2b26114763ae

      Excerpt:

      A newly declassified opinion shows FISA court “oversight” in the face of egregious, unconstitutional and potentially criminal government misconduct means nothing.

      Last week, thanks to the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s excellent FOIA work, we got the gift of a newly declassified 2011 FISA court opinion. The opinion finds that the government misled the FISA court for over three years about the details of its illegal and unconstitutional surveillance programs. These lies hid from the court the fact that every year, the NSA is collecting at least 56,000 emails – and possibly many more — between innocent Americans who have no foreign connections and are suspected of no crimes. That’s bad, but the worst part of it is, when the government’s lies were finally exposed the FISA court demanded … that NSA analysts read our private messages right away, so they can be used or deleted more quickly. In other words, the government got not a slap on the wrist, but a pat on the back.

      This was the third lie in less than three years that the FISA court had learned about. The judge described one such pattern of lying in Footnote 14 of this newly declassified opinion. There, the clearly outraged judge said the NSA had misrepresented so frequently and systematically how it conducted its program to collect and query Americans’ phone call records that the agency had utterly subverted the Court-mandated oversight regime for that program.

      So what did the court do when it found out it had been lied to, that purely domestic communications were fair game, that untold numbers of innocent people were being illegally spied on, and that all the safeguards in place needed to be rethought?

      Nothing, really. The court suggested the NSA should train its analysts to notice when their queries turned up an MCT – i.e., an Internet transaction containing multiple messages — and then to look carefully at all the by-catch. If existing procedures allowed them to use anything in those purely domestic messages that they were never supposed to have collected in the first place, great! Otherwise, only after collection and review, should the information be deleted. The NSA adopted this approach, and continues to blithely collect Internet transactions containing wholly domestic communications between innocent Americans to this day.

      So in the face of illegal, unconstitutional and potentially criminal conduct — conduct about which the NSA repeatedly lied to the FISA court — the FISA court “corrected” the problem by requiring … banner warnings that something might be an MCT, and an extra round of review by NSA analysts. The real problem – that the NSA regularly collects Americans’ most private communications that the law does not permit it to collect and lies about it to the FISA court – was simply waved away.

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      • I’m dismayed to see the number of people who believe:

        1) The judges of the FISA Court actually CARE whether or not they are being lied to
        2) The OIGs have any REAL power over the agencies they allegedly “oversee”
        3) The people who DO have the power to punish FISA abusers will do so

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        There is no way, FISA renewal should ever be done in any form. Anyone in or out of Congress supporting such a renewal should be viewed as complicit.

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        • Zoe says:

          Would it matter if it is renewed or not? They are illegally using it anyway. The have the hammer and whether or not congress critters give them permission they will continue using the hammer. The software for this hammer program needs to be destroyed.

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    • mazziflol says:

      As the ‘Trust the planner’s’ would say: BOOM!!!!

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      • litlbit2 says:

        I wonder which is worse, someone lying to the FISA Court, a FISA Judge criticizing a portion on the FISA abuse or FISA Judge allowing things illegal under the table to continue? Furthermore, with the above is the Chief Justice of the Court any different than Shifty, Comey, Horowitz, Obama, Romney, Biden to name a few? The Pinocchio Family?

        Could 2020 bring a process for the removal of many comprised Judges and their benefits?

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          Based on Inspector General Horowitz Release above nothing will change.

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          • Raptors2020 says:

            Direct challenges to government power bring direct counterattack. Behold, Ciaramella and Vindman.

            Indirect attack is best. Cutting the budget for government programs is automatic progress, most of the time. And government debt, federal, state, and local, is the looming crisis.

            We desperately need to de-centralize the federal bureaucracy. Their insular, elitist mindset is a huge part of the problem. If government offices are moved into poor Democrat districts (Baltimore, Detroit etc.) it will be hard for the Democrat politicians to squawk. Senators Hawley and Blackburn are pushing for this right now.

            Use national security and the President’s personal safety as excuses to reduce the access of bureaucrats to documents/the White House/the President’s personal presence. The # of people with access to secret documents and restricted areas is absurd. Nothing is secret if everything is secret.

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    • Terri says:

      Isn’t that what Wray said about his corrupt “rank and file” when he was before Congress the last time? The FBI suffered from HR issues? Must be some extra special training sessions they have to get off the ground?

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  4. Zippy says:

    Direct link to official source. To hell with Scribd putting public documents behind membership required firewall:

    Audit of the Federal Bureau of
    Investigation’s Management of its
    Confidential Human Source Validation
    Processes

    https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/a20009.pdf

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    • DJ says:

      “OIG BOMBSHELL!! Hidden within the OIG report… ”
      ————————————————————
      Yeah, hidden bombshell… Kinda like a silent fart – smelly but everyone in the room just looks at the others and there is responsibility for no one.

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    • Kaco says:

      Oh, you mean she might actually be prosecuted? I’ll hold my breath.

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    • SeanNY2 says:

      Agree. Why does this site download public documents from the government website then upload them onto ScribD where, even if you don’t have to pay, they are twice as hard to read (impossible on a phone) and impossible to search, unlike the original free government PDF?

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    • revivalsurvival1944 says:

      Thank you….just finished reading it….boring for some I’m sure….but in my mind, it reinforces what so many have said to date — the FBI needs to be dismantled and the DOJ revamped. The many infractions that occurred (and are still occurring) and the lack of leadership displayed, at all levels, is unfortunate and should never have occurred. But, I believe much of this was ignored, and accepted, by the FBI leadership team and others, for their own reasons.

      This IG Audit is a good starting point for further review and discussion of the viability, reliability and stability of this once prestigious agency which appears to have fallen short of what Americans have come to expect from this agency. Installing/updating/revamping computer programs and training for personnel will not suffice to fix the myriad of problems inherent in this agency. Makes one wonder how many other government agencies may be facing the same kind of problems?

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  5. Zippy says:

    Wrong tweet linked above:

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  6. MelH says:

    When you think of the taxpayer dollars spent on all that garbage verbiage above, doesn’t it set your mind to devising ways of cheating on your taxes? I urge you to do your own taxes, A friend/CPA advised me how simple that is; “Creative Reporting”, he said.

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    • FPCHmom says:

      We should be organizing a tax revolt – where millions of Americans change their withholdings to nothing to protest all the government corruption. Only after the corruption is dealt with will we pay them.

      We should refuse to fund a corrupt federal bureaucracy, en masse. And we should be very public about it being a protest and not tax evasion.

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  7. Will says:

    Looking for the section where they discuss running spies into a political campaign to entrap people in process crimes to justify illegal FISA warrants against United States citizens …

    Liked by 7 people

    • Beau Geste says:

      Me too. I couldn’t find the sections on Nellie Ohr, Steele, the “still-secret redacted other spy in the Trump campaign”, or the mifsud phones. Are any of the FISC Judges, or congresscritters/staff paid informants? Was epstein, with a child porn risk factor, a paid FBI asset who was recommended for termination?

      Checking out these paid snitches was switched to FBI human resources. Weren’t some of the coup perps transferred to FBI HR? Where was Bruce Ohr transferred?

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    • steph_gray says:

      Uh, I think it’s because this is not the FISA report you were waiting for. It’s a different smaller one.

      Try again first week in December.

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  8. Bogeyfree says:

    Its this constant milk toast coming from the IG and the DOJ why I keep posting my hopes and concerns.

    Think about this…..

    One man who has spoken so eloquently at NotreDame and last week about the horrific abuse he is seeing from the Judiciary and the Legislative branches of government as they attack the Executive Branch.

    And this same man has ABSOLUTE and 100% CONTROL and POWER to look at……

    1) Every single document, email, text and phone call captured by the NSA of these perpetrators in and outside of the CIA, DOJ, FBI, NSC who may have crafted and executed this Presidential coup for the past 3 years

    2) Every FISA request, FBI Contractor Search and every unmasking request for the past 4 years, including any communications with FISA judges.

    3) Every document email, text, phone call communication and FINANCIAL transactions from Ukraine to Americans that occurred since the 2014 Ukraine Coup.

    4) The Weiner Laptop, the Hillary Server, the NSA captured DNC emails the 47 Hammer hard drives, PapaD’s serial numbers and Mifsud’s phones

    5) Depose Jullian Assange, Ed Butowsky, Ellen Ratner and the 2 attending physicians who worked on Seth Rich.

    6) And can open up any investigation and subpoena anyone at the drop of a hat beyond what Durham is doing

    So again there is NOT ONE THING that Barr can not see, do or declassify (other than the bleach bit Server and smashed blackberrys) in order to get to the truth and the bottom of this Presidential coup, the Ukraine Coup and the Burmisa issues.

    With all of this that is at his finger tips and under his complete and total control is it even possible that the IG Report would come back as milk toast?

    Is it even conceivable or possible that Barr comes back with zero indictments??

    Ladies and Gentlemen, the man who recently gave two of the most beautiful speeches about our Republic, our Constitution and how the Founders truly intended it all to work will IMO either go down in American history as the man who saved our Republic or possibly the biggest __________ in American history.

    IMO there is just no middle ground with everything that is at his disposal IMO. The highways are littered with hard evidence far and wide AND again there is NO STONE Barr doesn’t have the authority to turn over, none!

    It is just not possible that ALL of this is just miss communication, an errant Dossier, bad information from our intelligence teams and/or training and procedural errors, right???

    I for one am hoping and betting it will be the former for the sake of the Republic and millions of Americans.

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    • Zorro says:

      Is it conceivable that there are zero indictments? Listen to the Devin Nunes on Mark Levin last Sunday. He said something to the effect if there nothing from Durham to make a criminal case at least some wrongdoing will be known by the public.

      Not too encouraging.

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    • Daniel says:

      Answer this: How does Barr avoid “obstruction of congress” and constitutional crises when Barr starts arresting people en masse? If what you want to see (and I want to see it too) were to happen, chaos would ensue. How do you do that without the massive chaos?

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      • olddog35 says:

        “How do you do that without the massive chaos?”

        I’d say that we are witnessing mass chaos now! How can it be ignored?

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          It will be interesting to see what happens as the chaos grows. Will it lead us to another Civil War in order to correct the imbalance in our three branches of government.

          Open corruption like the Horowitz report will continue to promote chaos.

          Continued attempts at impeaching or obstructing one of the best presidents this country is seen promotes yet more chaos.

          The judicial system setting to standards of justice one for the elite and one for the masses. Promotes more chaos.

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      • ballgame17 says:

        That will be chaos!

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    • Alan Reasin says:

      69 indictments for Watergate; none for Russia, Russia, Russia.

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    • FrankieZee says:

      I have been saying this for a while now. If nothing happens, I feel sorry for Trump and his family. They will do everything in their power to destroy Trump and his family forever if they get away with this. Which makes me wonder why Trump does not seem worried about this.

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      • Sharon says:

        That’s a given – remember what David Plouffe said with regard to Trump, “It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.”

        He tweeted that on June 13, 2016.

        Neither he nor those he represents have changed their minds about that.

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      • Mike says:

        Simple. Trump knows the plan, and knows he is perfectly safe. Otherwise he would have been gone long ago, considering that the vast majority of those in government have been conspiring against him since 2015. At what point does it become mathematically impossible? There are no coincidences..

        Trump is toying with them at this point, like a cat with a mouse.

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      • willthesuevi says:

        Why should he be worried? Civilian Trump is a planner. He has what is termed “Kiss my a$$ money”. Usually thought to be anything over 200 million in assets.

        I am more than sure he has an untouchable nest egg ready and waiting for his family. That is what a responsible businessman like Mr. Trump does.

        It is exactly what he is trying to do for us, and our nation, as President Trump.

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        • Beverly says:

          Money won’t save you, if the governments and the ruling class of the world are determined to hound you to death. Where, pray tell, can he keep his money? What bank, here or abroad, would withstand the power of those who literally rule the world? The Swiss banks, you say? No, in a very ominous development, a few years ago they agreed to make their anonymous numbered accounts visible to “the authorities.” The Cayman Islands? that tiny country lives on the sufferance of the ruling class, and would leap; at their command.

          Banks here? don’t make me laugh. So much for having billions of dollars. Which can be confiscated for any bullshit reasons the world rulers devise. FY money is a thing of the past.

          “Put not your trust in princes,” pray to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and stay frosty.

          Sigh. I hate, loathe, and abominate the Left: they will meet their reward at the hands of their infernal master eventually, but they sure are a torment here.

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          • willthesuevi says:

            Beverly,
            There are many ways other than government money. Food, shelter, gold, diamonds, tobacco, etc. Barter items. I agree with your comment about the left.

            “If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever”.
            1 Timothy 5:8

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    • Zippy says:

      “the man who recently gave two of the most beautiful speeches about our Republic, our Constitution and how the Founders truly intended it all to work”

      Talk is cheap…

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      • Beverly says:

        No indictments, no prosecutions, no convictions: Bill Barr, as Sundance has been warning us, is all mouth and no trousers. The Government[TM] always protects its fellow cockroaches.

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  9. Axel says:

    I think this report gives us example of how FISA report will look.

    Not a lot of names, facts, just general statements. I think FISA report will be big dissapointment

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  10. inrecordtimes says:

    Please remember that the number one obligation of any governmental agency is to cover their own ass-ets. After 40 years working in the government arena, it is the one primary mantra that I have heard over and over again. There is no such thing as an internal government watchdog to expose governmental corruption and abuse! That is why the Founders gave us the 2nd Amendment!

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  11. Merle Marks says:

    still waiting to see handcuffs…still not holding my breath…there is no end to the cabal and the corruption…Satan is alive and well and resides in DC…

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  12. dufrst says:

    I never put stock in the OIG. He doesn’t have ability to bring charges. I’m putting stock in Durham and Barr’s investigation.

    In the end, it’s up to We the People to make sure Trump wins in 2020. If these people succeed in defeating Trump in 2020, we will lose our nation in short order.

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    • sturmudgeon says:

      dufrst: If President Trump is to be re-elected… the SOROS VOTING MACHINES that are NOW IN 16 STATES, several of which are Battleground States… will have to be removed and accurate ones installed… Romney apparently is also involved in these companies.

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    • albertus magnus says:

      Trust that plan, man!

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      • dufrst says:

        Well if we don’t have that then we are screwed. Any better ideas?

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        • albertus magnus says:

          Dufrst, you are correct. That is why I have been trying for months to get those folks who want PDJT to win re-election next year to push hard on OUR allies and friends to push OUR SIDE to focus on those issues that we actually will be able to win on.

          If OUR SIDE continues to push the “plan” and if there turns out to be no “plan” the other side will win because we have squandered to opportunity to make our case.

          PDJT has worked MIRACLES in the face of continued adversity for US. Lets focus on THOSE topics and remind US what America used to be and is becoming again under PDJT.

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  13. andy says:

    There would be no domestic terrorism post 911 if it wasnt for CHS bridging the gap.
    Change my mind.

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  14. Lee Moore says:

    “Respected on both sides of the aisle” = OK with Dems = Swamp Creature

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  15. Shyster says:

    Beg to disagree, the report demonstrates an almost complete failure on the part of the FBI to follow or attempt to follow its internal policies and guidelines pertaining to the establishment and handling of confidential informants. Though not crimes, they are FBI policy violations, the report is damning and again cries out for serious internal and/or structural reform or outright disbanding of the FBI. Oh, and by the way, this report tosses the lie that the rank and file are so honorable into the dumpster in that it was the field agents who refused/failed to use their FBI informant internal reporting system. I have never bought that crap and in fact blame the rank and file for knowing what was going on and remaining silent and doing nothing so as to protect their pensions, pay raises, and reputations.

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  16. DWL says:

    We have a corrupt media and a corrupt governing body that WILL NOT CORRECT ITSELF. The media detests, and has declared war on half the population, as so far, its been a safe bet. Expecting someone from government to fix this is the exact description of insanity. We will have to get our hands dirty, or go with the destruction of everything we hold dear.
    The media has lied and directed the population towards slavery and constant surviellience, while the government has ensured the wealth is taken from the population. Soros writ large.
    Until the people stand up and fight back, expect things to pick up speed and power. The corruption is thru and thru and must be rooted out deeply. Lawmakers have sold us into slavery but their names are out there to be found. Their signatures are clear evidence when found on freedom taking legislation.
    There is a story, often told, that upon exiting the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin was approached by a group of citizens asking what sort of government the delegates had created. His answer was: “A republic, if you can keep it.”

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  17. Jim in TN says:

    Sounds like it is time for Wray to have yet another news conference proclaiming the FBI is the most elite, best criminal organization in the world. /s

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    • Shyster says:

      Oh and don’t forget the announcement that he will institute bureau wide training to educate the agents that the internal policies are mandatory and not discretionary in conducting investigations. I say scrap they entire institution and build a new one from scratch.

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    • fred5678 says:

      The FBI is the “best criminal organization in the world”. I agree. Even better than the Mafia.

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  18. warspite2 says:

    Anyone who expects anything bold and courageous from an IG Report in D.C. is a fool. No, actually by this point “idiot” would be far more apropos.

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  19. sd2020 says:

    Unless I am mistaken Epstein was in a state prison and then transferred to a federal prison under the control of Barr who if he was MAGA or even just loved America he would have known to put “his” people watching Epstein 24/7. Unless of course “his” people were watching Epstein and then it all makes sense. After he came out with his AI initiative to spot future criminals I was not a fan.
    Horowitz is a known swamp creature who covers up for his masters, Is Barr the same thing?
    My gut says yes as no one has had any repercussions in this whole affair, from the awans to Wolfe to powers,McCabe,baker ,rice etc. They are counting on dancing with the pedos to entertain the normies along with a memory the same as a goldfish.

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  20. Sammy Hains says:

    It’s called Government Accountability Theatre.

    “We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.”

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  21. Katherine McCoun says:

    Ironically, I am too focused (distracted) on the schifty show to dig in on this…ironic? Dems succeeding in distracting us from damaging info? what is the proper balance in our efforts right now? digging into this or the Ukraine corruption to help against Dems current schemes…???

    So many political battlefronts! They are keeping us busy but we will MAGA on. Input as to focus/time invested?

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  22. Bill says:

    Much ado about nothing, again. President impeached and Senate conviction (via secret vote) by end of the year. The never Trumpers revenge following lead of McCain and Romney.

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  23. vikingmom says:

    Has anyone been taken into custody because of anything in this report? No? Then I am afraid it is simply SSDD!!

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  24. Chieftain says:

    Looks like the FBI manages 10,000-99,000 CHS and 1,000 to 9,999 long term CHS.

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    • Zippy says:

      Careless whispers: how the German public used and abused the Gestapo
      The Gestapo was a very small organisation reliant on informers to denounce enemies of the regime, but jealous spouses and neighbours often used it to settle scores
      Sep 29, 2015

      https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/careless-whispers-how-the-german-public-used-and-abused-the-gestapo-1.2369837

      The Gestapo was a key element in the Nazi terror system. The very word conjures up a nightmare image of an all-powerful Orwellian ‘Big Brother’ style secret police force keeping the German public under constant surveillance. Films, novels and TV documentaries have embedded this image in the popular mind. But is it true? In reality, the Gestapo was a very small organisation. In 1933, it had 1,000 employees and even at its peak in 1944, its active officers within Germany numbered 16,000, policing a population of 66 million. In Düsselfdorf, with a population of 500,000, there were 126 Gestapo officers in 1937. Essen had 650,000 inhabitants and just 43. The same pattern was repeated in all the other major German cities. Most rural towns had no Gestapo presence at all. The Gestapo was underfunded, under-resourced and over stretched.

      It’s been estimated that only 15 per cent of Gestapo cases started because of surveillance operations. A far greater number began following a tip-off from a member of the public.

      East Germany Stasi thrived on snitching lovers, fickle friends and envious schoolkids
      Newly unearthed secret files from the former German Democratic Republic reveal how easily we can betray others.
      Dec 23, 2015

      https://www.afr.com/life-and-luxury/arts-and-culture/stasi-snitches-all-around-records-reveal-true-extent-of-telling-on-others-20151116-gkzu44

      Everyone knows about the Stasi and the extent to which it spied on the East German populace. But that was only a small part of the informing that went on. New research shows that snitching was vastly more common than previously thought.

      This story is one of spies and informers of the kind that were largely ignored by historians of the German Democratic Republic (DDR) until recently – because they were spies and informers that were not connected to the Stasi, as East Germany’s feared Ministry for State Security was popularly known.

      Instead, they were totally normal citizens of East Germany who betrayed others: neighbours reporting on neighbours, schoolchildren informing on classmates, university students passing along information on other students, managers spying on employees and Communist bosses denouncing party members.

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  25. Ellis says:

    I wasn’t aware he was even doing this report. I don’t think this is the report anyone thought was going to be explosive. Let’s see the fisa report, that’s the one I think will be explosive simply because there is too much in the public sphere for it not to be.

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  26. Reserved55 says:

    Whitey Bulger.

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  27. gda53 says:

    Don’t despair folks. This was always going to be a nothingburger and we ALL knew that.

    This is like the stale cheese & crackers that’s put out for mainly decorative purposes before the main banquet to come.

    Who’s foolish enough to eat those when you’re know there’s an 5-course gourmet meal to follow?

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    • albertus magnus says:

      Trust the plan and wait for the 5-course gourmet meal.

      Sounds good. Just like a Disney movie or a fairy tale.

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      • gda53 says:

        Some will insist on being Eeyores of course. And then, when the actual hammer DOES come down, suddenly many of those are likely to be saying “I TOLD you there would be prime rib”.

        Me, I like to remain positive as long as there are positive developments, and pretty much everything I’ve seem from Barr/Durham (the ones who REALLY count) leaves me modestly optimistic that there WILL be indictments.

        How many? I haven’t a clue, but I don’t expect more than a handful (hopefully closer to 2 handfuls).

        Of course, unless hundreds are rounded up and get jail time, the IC disbanded, its buildings razed and the ground seeded with salt, there’ll still be moaners.

        One man’s prime rib IS another man’s poison.

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        • albertus magnus says:

          Hardly an eeyore.

          And one man’s 5-course gourmet meal could easily turn out to be the moronic fake plan spin that hands the DEMS the victory next November.

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    • Trump2020 says:

      If you like this nothingburger, sounds like the IG Report is gonna be a real whopper with extra cheese….

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    • Baby El says:

      Eric Swalwell or Chris (Tingle) Matthews.

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    • leftnomore says:

      That’s all I ever hear!

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  28. Kirby Allen says:

    Since the FBI did not follow the Guidelines, the solution is to issue more Guidelines that state the FBI must follow the Guidelines. This is good thinking. What could go wrong?

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    • willthesuevi says:

      I am sure that some kind of sensitivity training is in order. Maybe everyone in the FBI could be required to wear their reflective vests. There, that’ll fix ’em.

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  29. Merle Marks says:

    the bigger picture going forward: based on NO one in the cabal being perp walked up to this point, we Treepers shouldn’t be surprised going forward if that lack of action continues…for Barr and Durham to drop an atomic bomb while the criminals, past and present, have gotten off scott free just doesn’t make sense to me…that leaves Barr and Durham to drain the swamp and that leaves only them to man the pumps…Trump is our man, but the current downstream is too strong I believe…

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  30. akaPatience says:

    I’ve wondered if conservative reporters, pundits, lawyers, etc. have been played by their Deep State sources into raising our hopes so that the letdown is even greater? After all, it’s worked that way when it’s come to leftist reporting of anonymous sources, so why not conservative reporting as well?

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  31. Trump2020 says:

    Kool-Aid Hannity been peddl’n this every day on his news show as if it was the Holy Grail. Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock

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  32. The Boss says:

    I can’t read this IG report. It’s like a rule the Financial Accounting Standards Board would issue: a mind-numbing, narrowly-scoped, scholarly document full of jargon and run-on sentences.

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  33. Jimmy R says:

    If I were cynical, I wuld think Q is funded by Soros. Think about it. The message is relax, don’t get up in arms, the powers that be will get rid of the tyrants for you. And every Q thread in Twitter seems to have a hundred different posters posting similar memes and quips. The patriot appalled by the tyranny might be lulled to sleep by this and not do anything about the coup.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Yet the Q-Cultists won’t believe their eyes – when IG reports are issued demonstrating myriad violations of procedures, rules, and laws, yet NO ONE is ultimately prosecuted for breaking laws or violating other’s constitutional rights.

      The truth has a cold, hard way of spoiling what once was a nice warm fantasy.

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    • CountryDoc says:

      sometimes I wonder if Trump, Sundance, Fox are all shock absorbers, to lull us into complacency when we should be fighting for our lives. I don’t really believe that, but sometimes in my discouragement — it is hard to rally hope again.

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      • GB Bari says:

        We cannot fight President Trump’s political battles for him. We can only express support, send donations to his campaign, and vote for him and pro-MAGA candidates.

        Sundance, to his credit, refuses to peddle “hope porn”. In CTH we get the facts along with a well-reasoned analysis and maybe a cautious prediction when the facts warrant one. It isn’t always rosy. That’s real life and real politics.

        But it beats the crap out of the 24/7 lies in the MSM, the anti Trump spin in the RINO media, or the fantasyland forecasts in Q-ville.

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        • CountryDoc says:

          Thank you GB, and I agree with you. And that is why I share my most negative doubts as well as my most fervent hopes here in the Treehouse. I feel I am among patriot warriors here, and I can share it all, in order to have the perspective of realistic hope here among you all.

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          • GB Bari says:

            Doc, I’m certainly no stranger to cynicism, as I have often expressed such feelings in these pages. But I think it is better to always take a look from the 50,000 foot level and remember how successful President Trump has been DESPITE the seemingly overwhelming forces in government, media, academia, Hollywood, and foreign antagonists – all arrayed against him.

            Then when I realize how thin, weak and fraudulent are the arguments that are being touted by the Dems in these sham impeachment hearings, I am able to maintain a positive outlook.

            I fully believe without any doubt that we are not yet privy to information that fully and irrefutably damns the DemonRATs and even a few corrupt Republicans, not to mention the black hats in the Deep State. It’s out there; it will eventually surface; and it will sink many big enemy narratives when it does.

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  34. Ed Lowney says:

    Of course it isn’t going to be explosive. It was never going to be explosive. At worst, they wait out a 2nd Trump term by treating him as a lame duck the day after the election (with the help of the Republican establishment), and focus on reclaiming power totally in 2024. So why deep six their comrades when all they have to do is wait four more years? Report that they didn’t follow procedures, send them to a little training, and start planning the next coup.

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  35. Sharon says:

    You can’t negotiate with liars, and there’s not much point to talking with them much, either.

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  36. covfefe999 says:

    This one wasn’t on my radar. But I’m not part of the “trust the plan” crowd. 🙂

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  37. burnett044 says:

    Sundance sums it up perfectly…it ain`t

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  38. cambee99 says:

    I’m not really understanding why you would think that an audit on the process would implicate criminal activity.

    This is stating that the FBI brass didn’t provide the CHS program with adequate staffing and/or resources to do its job. So, did the leadership do this on purpose or incompetence?

    It’s the first step in the process.

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    • Sharon says:

      Endless meetings, layers of personnel, proposals, policies, procedures, evaluations, cross-purposes, intent to manipulate events, circular reasoning out the wazoo…… that’s the first step in the process?

      Most of those involved in this chicanery have no intention of resolving or revealing, discovering or disciplining anything or anyone.

      These processes are pretty much guaranteed to reward an Intention to conceal, while pretending to investigate. That’s not a new goal on the part of these yahoos – it’s been around for many decades.

      What is new is that the raw material with which they are making the sausage is printed and released for all the world to see – – – and that action does not change what they are doing or not doing. So now I expect they will churn out massive volumes of information and investigatory documentation just to keep the vox populi busy while they press on.

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  39. Levon River says:

    Baghdad Bob, eat your heart out.

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  40. The Dark Lord says:

    oh come on … nobody here even KNEW the IG was doing an audit of the Humint process … its not phase 1 of the FISA abuse …

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    • covfefe999 says:

      There’s an Epoch Times article suggesting a link between the two. Apparently a few days after Horowitz announced the review of the FBI’s FISA warrant application process, an entry about the Confidential Human Source audit appeared on the DOJ OIG web site.

      FBI’s Confidential Human Source Program
      The OIG is auditing the FBI’s Confidential Human Source Program. The preliminary objectives are to: (1) assess the FBI’s management and oversight of its Confidential Human Source Program, to include the FBI’s oversight of payments to confidential human sources, (2) examine the FBI’s confidential human source policies to ensure consistency with the Attorney General Guidelines, and (3) assess the FBI’s process of determining reliability and appropriateness of confidential human sources.
      https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l1LgEnBcdVQJ:https://oig.justice.gov/ongoing/all.htm+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
      https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-03-28b.pdf

      I haven’t been able to verify yet when this entry appeared, but Horowitz announced the FISA review on Mar 28 2018.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        In this semi-annual report which covers the period through Mar 31 2018, there is mention of the Confidential Human Source review. So it was started at least as early as Mar 31 2018. Not sure yet if it was started before or after the FISA reivew. https://oig.justice.gov/semiannual/1805.pdf

        I just noticed in this semi-annual report the CHS inspection is called a “review” but in the final report of it it’s called an “audit”. I’m sure there’s some significance but I don’t know what it is.

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  41. Dixie T says:

    BORING!!!!!!!!!! I hope the FISA section is a nothing-burger like this first section!!!! The FBI ALWAYS “concurs,” and then goes back to doing what they want to do!!!!!!!

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  42. Johnny Dollar says:

    Christopher Steele, Stefan Halper and Joseph Mifsud are the reason this report was written.

    The subject matter of the report is “Confidential Human Sources.” The three characters I mentioned above were “Long term Confidential Human Sources” for the FBI. They were so highly regarded by the FBI that they were used as sources for all kinds of FBI mischief.

    To me, what Horowitz is, indirectly, saying in this report is that the FBI did not properly vet these sources and, as a consequence, screwed up, big time, by relying on them as justification for FBI decision making.

    The question in my mind is whether this report is laying the groundwork for an excuse by FBI decision makers like McCabe and Comey.

    That is to say – can the IG in his next report say McCabe and Comey decisions can be blamed on a poorly functioning vetting process for “Confidential Human Sources” rather than on a deliberate intent by them to unseat the president?

    We’ll see, I guess.

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  43. covfefe999 says:

    Gosh, I forgot how long we’ve been waiting. (insert picture of skeleton)

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    March 28, 2018
    DOJ OIG Announces Initiation of Review
    Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz announced today
    that, in response to requests from the Attorney General and Members of Congress, the Office
    of the Inspector General (OIG) will initiate a review that will examine the Justice Department’s
    and the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) compliance with legal requirements, and with
    applicable DOJ and FBI policies and procedures, in applications filed with the U.S. Foreign
    Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) relating to a certain U.S. person. As part of this
    examination, the OIG also will review information that was known to the DOJ and the FBI at the
    time the applications were filed from or about an alleged FBI confidential source. Additionally,
    the OIG will review the DOJ’s and FBI’s relationship and communications with the alleged
    source as they relate to the FISC applications.
    If circumstances warrant, the OIG will consider including other issues that may arise
    during the course of the review.
    https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-03-28b.pdf

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  44. John Rawls says:

    IG is not prosecuting crimes.

    FBI’s work with Christopher Steel almost certainly brought up the issue of how CHS are handled, and apparently…

    Comey did a poor job overall.

    This might be the context/foundation for more specific revelations.

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  45. Curt says:

    I have said it all along… the Horowitz report will be a milquetoast review of these entrenched bureaucrats, agencies, and their practices. He is, himself, a bureaucrat who is not willing to be objective with turf to protect. HIs first oversight of the FBI in June 2018 was a joke. His review of the FISA issues will also be nonsense. There are NO checks and balances in our government anymore. I am willing to bet that even John Durham is being muzzled by this omnipotent deep state…………

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  46. Caius Lowell says:

    D0J IG is Deep State central!

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  47. Mike says:

    IG reports can’t investigate the behind the scenes intent to any action. It is known there was criminal intent but without looking at this material the IG always presumes the benefit of the doubt and all illegal actions are merely mistakes..

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Yup, no-one should be fired or disciplined for disobedience. The poor FBI needed more resources to figure out that Steele was paid to make up stuff by hillary/DNC, and that epstein was always a pedophile risk. The problem is not intentional lying to the FISC. The problem is that there is not enough money authorized for the FBI by congresscritters and PDJT. The FBI did the best they could, despite underfunding. Nellie Ohr even had to use her own shortwave station. And FBI oath-makers even had to use their own pens to sign the FISA Warrants. Top agents only had time to write 40,000 texts per employee. This can only be fixed by much more money awarded to the FBI. /sarc

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  48. So I wonder if the results will be similar to how Starbucks handled their situation with sensitivity training. Shut the offices for a half day. Give retraining to the HR folks. Make sure it doesn’t happen again. Back to work.

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  49. If we do end up losing our country, does anyone have any suggestions of what the 2nd best country in the world might be to live in? Or is freedom just completely gone? Maybe go underground. Live off the land. Build a hut somewhere no one cares about. Teach my family to fish and hunt. Might be a simpler but happier life.

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    • snellvillebob says:

      I looked 5 years ago. There is not one that is not as corrupt as the USA. The Globalists have been through.

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    • James Groome says:

      you can’t run from them… they are bound and determined to reign down their justice on everyone, whether you have done anything or not is irrelevant, you are standing in their way of running the planet.

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    • Kc says:

      Cuenca Ecuador…been researching it a while…huge expat community and cheap cost of living in the Andes… they call it the land of perpetual Spring

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      • Raptors2020 says:

        Got any good llama recipes?

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      • Spooky says:

        Your joking right? Ecuador has had a socialist, election stealing, Castro loving tyrant as president since 2006. It’s one of the poorest and most corrupt countries on earth. Just saying the name of the country requires full hazmat decontamination!

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        • Spooky says:

          My bad, got Bolivia and Ecuador mixed up. Still, if Ecuador looks attractive compared to the U.S. it just shows what kind of future this country offers it’s patriots – a very small, dark and oppressive one.

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        • Jackson says:

          They got a new Presidente in 2017. He’s better than the old one.

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      • Ecuador would be my choice also, I researched it also a few years ago…

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        • Jackson says:

          I have a friend who was also looking at Ecuador, based on the recommendation of a CIA guy who he knows. It made no sense to me the first time I heard about it. Briefly: In 2005 the elected Presidente was removed from office by the Assembly. Senor Correa won the Presidency in 2006, their was an attempted coup against him in 2010, but he won re-election. In 2017 he was replaced by Lenín Moreno. He represents what is described as a center-left, or democratic-socialist, as was his predecessor (whom he served as VP under for part of his time in office). However he’s broken with Correa’s policies and has been implementing what are described as more neo-liberal policies.

          It’s not the most unstable, or worst governed place in South America, but it’s not someplace that I’d want to put my life’s energy into and bet on for my future, either.
          YMMV, of course.

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        • chipin8511 says:

          Me too little..

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      • I would suggest that you go down there and take a look before you take their word that Ecuador is perpetual Spring.

        Just a tip.

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    • Boots says:

      If we do end up losing our country, does anyone have any suggestions…

      Yes. We restart the militia and use the Second Amendment to follow this from the Declaration of Independence:

      But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

      Good exposition on the above words:
      http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/baldwin/150515

      Full text of Declaration:
      http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/

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      • Dee says:

        Why are earth would you think to leave rather than fight for what is yours? That is why we are here.

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        • pbr22 says:

          Bingo, Dee. And they is nowhere is go. Don’t think S.A. is a great place. the world is a changin’.

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        • Curt says:

          Wow, people making silly statements about leaving for the land of milk and honey in South America! If you’re not willing to stay and fight for this great country then that’s probably better for everyone. I’ve traveled some of those countries. You people are in for a rude awakening… Like Reagan once said, “America is the last best hope for freedom and liberty left on this earth”…. Give me a break!!!

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          • steph_gray says:

            In my opinion this thread is teeming with RolCons and eeyores.

            I also think reading comprehension problems prevented quite a few people from tumbling, at least not right away, to the fact that this is not the big IG Report.

            Result: plenty of end of the world doom stuff quickly proclaimed, before the Emily Latella stage struck.

            I haven’t even had time to read this report yet; sundance is usually right about the meatiness of these things. Hoping to get some time… but also want to save it for the phone book when it does arrive.

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    • Peoria Jones says:

      If you can teach your family to fish and hunt, then stay here with the rest of us and do it now. Don’t run.

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    • stripmallgrackle says:

      If you’re up to it, Canada has a lot of untouched wilderness. Winters are kinda rough.

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    • Daniel says:

      The only country worth living in is the one we make for ourselves. The Democrats are activists. They are ACTIVE. The Republicans are INACTIVE and decide it’s better to sit on the sidelines judging and guessing and imagining and assuming. If you want to understand why this can’t be stopped, then look no further than yourself and your addictions to entertainment and convenience.

      We all have to change before we can even come close to restoring our country. Trump’s entire agenda is about that. We need to join him though, admittedly, it’s hard to know just what to do or precisely when to do it.

      I’m prepared to join the restoration (I am reluctant to call it a revolution or a devolution) but who is the leader? We’ve got a massive culture war which has been raging in our midst for decades while we ignored it. Every school and every government is now peopled by leftist activists and you’d be hard-pressed to find a strong advocate for the people that doesn’t turn out to be a RINO or too weak. We’ve got precious few. We’ve got Trump. Devin Nunes? There’s still so much we don’t know and can’t know.

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    • The Third Man says:

      I’ve lived in Vietnam, near the beach, uninterrupted, since 2006. Nice !

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      • Jackson says:

        So, life under Communism (2.0) is nice? That’s reassuring.

        How is it for the people who aren’t rich expats?

        I hear they have a lot of sex-workers there, which to me is always a sign of a depraved and dispirited people, but I know there are certain types of people of enjoy such destinations.

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    • Mr e-man says:

      Maybe Texas can secede and we can go there.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      A German friend loves Australia. You have to prove assets and ability to contribute to society (occupation, job), and they get 6 weeks vacation and European bennies.

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      • whybother says:

        Australia is on the exact same path as America. EXACT same path. And we don’t have a Trump fighting in our corner. There’s no one.

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        • whybother says:

          6 weeks vacation is news me to live, and I was born here. We have 4 weeks leave per year – accrued. As for European benefits? Not quite. We have superannuation that we pay into, and there are benefits for senior citizens (who qualify). We do have medicare, but we also have a robust private health care system as well. We’re a mix really, and it’s all going down the crapper as government on either side refuses to cut spending. So wherever you heard that Australia’s better – give it 5-10 years and we’ll be exactly where America is.

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      • pbr22 says:

        No guns allowed in Australia. And nearly all Europen countries get 6 weeks of vacation.

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    • Cynthia says:

      Let’s pool our money, buy a decent-sized island, and crown VSGPDJT our king! 😁

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    • orlandocajun says:

      Poland or Portugal

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      If we fail here, there’s nowhere they’ll ever leave us alone.

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    • Parker Longbaugh says:

      No. Stand and fight. Do or die. These for me appear to be the only options left. I will not standby and allow my children and grandchildren to be sent to camps. Which they will be sent to since we are Christians and believe in the Constitution of the United States of America.

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    • Carrie says:

      Maybe all Treepers need to live in one small city somewhere in the US so we can control our local government and “our” interpretation of the laws as we see fit? I’m just presently looking in North Carolina (trying to escape CT)!

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    • Chip Doctor says:

      Trump Babe,

      If we lose our country to these people, you won’t be able to take any money with you, because they will make sure you can’t. They will take it. After a civil war, there won’t be any Social Security. And with a destroyed economy, most of us won’t have jobs. If you have gold, they know it, and the eye in the sky knows exactly where you buried it. If you have it in an offshore account, the CIA and FBI know it and will knock your door down and take your passport so you can’t leave until you cough up the money.

      So, how about we fight for the one we’ve got.

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    • Doppler says:

      Losing our country should not be option. This is the most economically successful, militarily successful, culturally successful country of our time. The founding principles remain the right founding principles. We just have evil, manipulative people who are attracted to successful societies like flies to crap, who’ve been working very hard to subvert our nation, and all of its institutions, one by one. The Marxists call it the “long march through the institutions.” But then we have patriots who, though maybe gullible to begin with, when aroused and appropriately alerted to the danger, will defend our republic against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

      If we could find someplace as good as this, and contribute our life efforts to it, the same scoundrels would come for it, too. Eternal vigilance!

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