The Gentleman From Ohio….

Jim Jordan questioning IG Horowitz and cutting to the nub of the “matter”:

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Part II:

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81 Responses to The Gentleman From Ohio….

  1. Mr e-man says:

    In hindsight, it is easy to see this was all a frame up of Donald Trump. The coup plotters are all hanging their hat on the idea that they saw something fishy and had every right, even a duty, to investigate these Trump Russia claims.

    But it becomes clearer and clearer Trump had nothing to do with any of that and that the FBI didn’t have very much real information, knew nothing was verified, and yet went ahead with running spies into the Trump campaign to create an illusion and to trap people into compromising situations they could use to “investigate” and impugn a political candidate during an election.

    That should have been their first hard stop. Kind of a “look fellas, this would be a very controversial investigation and we should not go there without really solid information.” But they did it without any solid information, suggesting it was certainly politically motivated.

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    • Dee Paul Deje says:

      And probably their usual modus operandi.

      Liked by 6 people

    • cboldt says:

      Somebody in the US government was in charge of commissioning the hoax to begin with.
      This isn’t a case of being duped by the Russians or some political party operative.
      It’s a frameup from the ground up.

      Liked by 15 people

    • The Boss says:

      And to this very day, the frame up attempts on President Trump continue. This time, via a “whistleblower” in the IC thru the IC IG. Guaranteed it’s another set up.

      Liked by 10 people

      • Niagara Frontier says:

        IMO this is an indication that the opposition is not panicking yet, but is still operating from the inside to take down this President.

        Until one or more of them gets their own private parts gripped in a vice for the entire world to see, then the coup continues.

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      • Bubby says:

        Boss you’re exactly right which proves the IC is still spying on President Trump!

        Liked by 4 people

      • amjean says:

        Probably a smoke screen for the media to focus on so they don’t have to report
        on the resulting information from the hearings.

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      • hanna693 says:

        Also, this Horowitz, every time Jordan asked him question, he looked scared like a deer caught in the headlights. He is a hold over from Obama time and I do not know why the president kept him on, probably because of bad advice from the other rethugs like sessions

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      • Time to turn the tables:

        Weekly LEAKS of whistleblower “revelations” against Democrat Committee Chairmen.
        • M$M, WaPo & NYT implicated.
        • Links to Obama Administration Officials & current embeds in CIA, State & FBI.

        Allegations of Election Tampering, Funding Fraud and Sedition …

        DOJ investigations and FISA Warrants …

        Whistleblower Protection by the Executive Branch is PARAMOUNT.

        Damn, this is gonna be a BLAST. 😎

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      • Patsy says:

        I vote Sue Gordon

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    • Redzone says:

      Exactly Mr. e – Yesterday there were some comments suggesting Comey was snookered by Brennan or whomever was feeding faulty information to him. That’s almost impossible as you pointed out for an honest person.

      Once it was clear PT was not involved, “hard stop.” On the other hand, if by some chance you were honestly snookered, you should be 1st in line to clear up the wrong doing. However….. crickets….

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    • Bubby says:

      My understanding is that frame ups/set ups don’t need any “solid information” that’s why it’s a coup attempt. To them “controversial” would be letting Trump become President. To remove a duly elect President with no evidence of wrongdoing is a coup which is what happened. And they almost succeeded!

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    • So the 3 Stooges and Company (Comey, Clapper, McCabe, etc…) had this ridiculous document in front of them that a 13 year old would be able to tell was a fairy tale and used the cover of a debriefing of the POTUS-Elect to try to spy and glean incriminating information from him in order to “stop it.” Am I getting the drift?

      If so, fantastic! Then if that is the precedent, I hope Trump has spies infiltrated in every single Democrat’s campaign that is running in 2020…Biden, Sanders, Pokahontas, the whole lot of them, right? I mean, good for the goose, right?

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      • JeffP says:

        POTUS Trump has God and the True US Citizenry behind him. He does not need the “dirty tricks”, God, through PDJT is exposing the Rats in the USA ship for All the World to see. Soon the Pied Piper will begin playing his tune and all the Rats will Scurry away to Oblivion. Well really, most will either commit suicide or be in Prison forever and a day….
        KAG Trump2020!!!

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      • plane of the ecliptic says:

        “Ridiculous document in front of them that a 13 year old would be able to tell was a fairy tale” Any small town Municipal Judge would know it was a fairy tale….but THE FISA Court Judges believed it? I am tired of everyone in the Media covering for the FISA Court…saying they were lied to, etc. etc. Sadly we know the Court was part of it, and thus Roberts. How sick is that?

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    • Carrie says:

      I kind of see it as a more thorough version of the “Wrap Up Smear” copyright Nancy Pelosi pending. In this case they bothered to create a document full of salacious lies and then peddled that to the media- pointed to the media articles and claimed an investigation is necessary. Then the CIA had a go on the sidelines by dropping misinformation on Papadopoulus with the hopes he would repeat it, and placing known FBI asset Carter Page in the inner circle to help spin other things overheard. I bet a ton of the leaks at the very beginning were from Carter Page and his daily reports.

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    • John says:

      Apparently there was nothing fishy with Obama.Sealing records is not fishy.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      the FBI didn’t have very much real information, knew nothing was verified, and yet went ahead with running spies into the Trump campaign to create an illusion and to trap people into compromising situations they could use to “investigate” and impugn a political candidate during an election.

      “Crossfire Hurricane” (or whatever the CIA called it pre July 2016)
      was NOT a counter-intelligence INVESTIGATION.

      It was an INTELLIGENCE OPERATION
      An operation to frame Trump.(and possibly any R that would win nomination)
      There was never anything to “verify”
      the Steele Dossier was part of it.
      it was all FAKE.

      At least that’s the way it will be in my novel if I ever learn how to write.

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    • Alex Pazzo says:

      They never thought she would lose

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    • The REASON they all act this way — “justifying” themselves with “higher loyalties” — is because they were, and are, following in the character and steps of their sole leader, Barack “Hussein” Obama (future historians will scratch their heads over this generation of Americans — especially after 9/11, and the experience with that other Hussein, in Iraq — electing, and re-electing, a man with the name of Hussein.

      Even many CTH followers still don’t get it, that this is what was meant by Obama’s desire to do it “by the book”. Get it out of your heads that he meant anything other than HIS, very personal, “book”. It isn’t a real book at all, it’s just Obama/Soetoro’s self-justification complex (not unllike the original Mohammed’s self-justification for his immoral character and actions, 1400 years ago).

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    • Jeff says:

      I am not so sure it is so much that they saw something fishy, as it is they wanted to put the appearance of something fishy, and planted some of these “appearances,” like Papadopolous, the lawyer with Don Jr., etc.

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  2. NICCO says:

    When repubs regain majority in 2020 this man would be my choice for speaker.God bless Jim Jordan and all the honorable,righteous and patriotic members in congress,and those who will come in to replace these rattlesnakes like nadler etc.Also would loive to see Corey Lewandowski in as senator in NH.

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  3. cbjoasurf says:

    Listening to Horowitz in this exchange tells me he’s likely an active participant in the cover up of what really happened and likely a sitting member of the “deep state”. As hard as he tried Rep. Jordan couldn’t get a straight answer out of Horowitz. Like playing “Whack-a-mole”

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    • Zy says:

      Horowitz has to be measured and cautious in his job. Let’s see what his report shows.

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      • Newhere says:

        Agree. But let’s see what DURHAM does. The IG reports could become invaluable, unimpeachable evidence in a criminal prosecution. Horowitz has done A LOT of straight-up gathering, interviewing, compiling, ie, getting a record together. The more IG Horowitz has comported himself as a boring, restrained bureaucrat, the more it helps the mission — that is … IF there is a mission. That remains the million dollar question. It’ll be answered by Durham, not Horowitz.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Please share with us an example or two of what makes you believe that the IG is in on the coverup 🙂

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    • NC Patriot says:

      He had to be careful—-he didn’t have the documents in front of him to use for reference.

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Rep. Jordan could not get a straight answer out of IG Horowitz about Strzok and Page being the classifying authorities because they were not the only ones trying to make the decisions. I think IG Horowitz was trying to get Mr. Jordan to go back over the section in the report that laid out the people involved in those decisions so that he could see whom he has been missing.

      See the part about “unit chief”? That is Sally Moyer. She was the head of the filter team for the Clinton emails. She is said to have been the one who tailored the search warrant for the Weiner laptop so that the maximum meaningful evidence could not be discovered and used. She also is said to be on the team that reviews the OIG reports for classification and moving sections to the annexes.

      As I mentioned earlier, if you run a cntrl+f word search on the Comey report using the term “Moyer”, you get nothing. If you use the term “unit chief”, you get 28 hits.

      I do not know if she is cooperating or if, through her position of influence over what shows up in OIG reports, she is able to keep her own name from appearing. To me, Sally Moyer is one of the swampiest Sgt Schultz characters in the whole SpyGate saga and should not be overlooked.

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      • Linus in W.PA. says:

        As I recall, she looks like she just crawled out of a swamp, too.

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        • Sherri Young says:

          I think she was caught right after the gym.

          Liked by 1 person

          • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

            I used to work with a respiratory therapist from Idaho, and asked him how he ended up in the Deep South…he said he came to find a woman who washed her hair, shaved her pits and legs, and who could cook real food, instead of eating granola bars all day.

            When I see that pic of Sally walking down the sidewalk, I think about him, and then Hillary pops into my head….Sally fashioned herself to look like a Hillary supporter. Ann Coulter once described them as FRAGRANT, HIRSUTE, HIPPIE-CHICK PIE WAGONS.

            Sally makes me laugh! Ahhh, the memories….

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      As hard as he tried Rep. Jordan couldn’t get a straight answer out of Horowitz

      Keeping in mind that Horowitz did not have a copy of the Comey Report in front of him
      as
      this was NOT a hearing about the Comey Report…

      Care to give an example?

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    • Toronto Tonto says:

      BS Jordan had him dead to rights. Horowitz was all too happy to insinuate Trump was a liar, but he made all kinds of excuses for Comey. He’s a patsy letting Wray take the blame for the redactions.

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    • cbjoasurf,
      I exactly share your sentiment about Mr. Horowitz. Not one straight answer and I am no body language expert, but it does seem to me that Mr Jordan’s questions have him squirming in his seats at times.

      Maybe I am seeing too much than there is to see. Time will tell.

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  4. Genie says:

    6/1/17 Classification review.
    6/8/17 Comey testifies.
    6/9/17 — Strzok text to Page: This won’t end well.
    6/9/17 — Page response: What won’t? Your participation?
    6/9/17 — Strzok response: No, for the former D. (Comey)

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  5. Freepetta says:

    🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
    This further illustrates this was nothing but a frame up and a coupe to overthrow our wonderful president!

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  6. meadowlarkspring says:

    Josh…who read the first memo after Comey typed it in the SUV on January 6, 2017 according to Josh’s new book “Crossfire Hurricane” has been focused on classification of the memos, the IG and now his and then Jim’s book for awhile from his perch at CNN.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/987500215149219841

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  7. Genie says:

    1/6/17 Comey leaves his meeting with PDJT and goes to field office for a televideo debrief with “the team.”
    Strzok/Page texts from 1/6/17 through 1/9/17 are non-existent (www.thespygateproject.org)
    Additional significant gaps in texts ranging from 2 to 6 days between 1/10/17 and 1/23/17.
    Then the infamous Page text on 1/23/17: “I can feel my heart beating harder, I’m so stressed about all the ways this has the potential to go fully off the rails.”

    I’m surprised that text on 1/23/17 was revealed considering how many may have been concealed in the missing gaps.

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    • “Strzok/Page texts from 1/6/17 through 1/9/17 are non-existent …”

      Nope! If they went through the telephone company – as, of course, all “texts” do – they still have them. (Just as Google [GMail …] apparently has all those ‘deleted’ emails, since someone allegedly posted them there.)

      (P.S.: “Geez, these ‘perps’ are using modern technology in an attempt to commit high crimes, and none of them seem to have the faintest idea how all of it actually works …”)

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      • The Demon Slick says:

        They know. They just hope that We The People don’t know how it works. The NSA has everything. Wieners laptop, Hillarys emails, Strokz texts. If it went out electronically, they has it.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      “I can feel my heart beating harder, I’m so stressed about all the ways this has the potential to go fully off the rails.”

      Page was texting about meeting Strzok in McCable’s executive bathroom for a
      “Lunchtime Quickie”

      Very easy to deflect meaning without those gaps filled.

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  8. GO BUCKEYES!!! Especially Congressional conservative ones

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  9. tozerbgood8315 says:

    After Horrorwitz whitewashed the FBI over the’r (cough cough) investigation of Hillary, indicating no proof of bias… can anyone give me one good reason why we should expect anything better our of him this time around?

    What’s that old saying?
    Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice shame on me.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      The IG has referred people for indictment in both the McCabe and Comey Reports. He is almost certainly going to do the same in his FISA Report.

      The IG is not the problem.

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      Horowitz buried the FBI in his report. But somebody else got to write the “conclusion”. And Wray did the rest at his press conference. It was like when Comey listed all Hillary’s crimes then said no indictment.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      indicating no proof of bias…can anyone give me one good reason why we should expect anything better our of him this time around?

      We can start with this one.
      Horowitz never indicated there was “no proof of bias” in his MYE Report.
      In fact he said there WAS bias.

      Gowdy challenged Hannity a few nights back:
      “Show me the CRIME. What is the STATUTE?”.
      And the rooster is right

      Horowitz could identify no CRIME caused by bias.
      In fact he couldn’t even find
      (perhaps because he specifically wasn’t given)
      ANY EVIDENCE that the bias he did find could be
      TIED TO A CHANGE IN AN INVESTIGATIVE DECISION
      Sorry to say he received no
      “How is the Hillary Cover Up going today” text message or email.

      FBI agents and DOJ officials are crafty that way–
      not leaving obvious trails when they commit their crimes
      that IG’s can easily find.

      He did report several policy violations including bias and some were even acted upon.
      And he actually put together a substantive CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE case that the bias WAS affecting decision-making
      evidence that an enterprising AG/ US Attorney could have taken on to a grand jury.
      But who did he give that evidence to?

      Unfortunately one that wasn’t “enterprising” at all.
      Rod Rosenstein

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  10. HB says:

    I don’t want to say Horrowitz is a bad guy but he’s had plenty of time. He should know this subject inside and out. The names don’t change.

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    • Don McAro says:

      BOOM

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Horowitz oversees an office of near 500 people doing dozens & dozens of investigations and numerous audits and efficiency analysis SIMULTANEOUSLY.

      You can see them all here.
      https://oig.justice.gov/ongoing/all.htm

      He was testifying under oath
      at a general oversight hearing NOT about any specific report.
      And he didn’t even have a copy of the report in front of him.
      He didn’t want to simply GUESS at any specific answer.

      All in all his recall was pretty amazing.
      Compare his testimony with Mueller
      who had a guy holding his own report right in front of him
      and still could remember basic facts.

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      • HB says:

        I would compare Mulehead to a den of thieves, and that’s it. That wasn’t testimony, that was a farce.

        Really my only complaint was one aspect: whether ‘FBI supervisors’ were Page and Strozk or other people? He didn’t know. Probably not a big deal but rubbed wrong at the time.

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          whether ‘FBI supervisors’ were Page and Strozk or other people? He didn’t know

          I took that at face value……that at the debrief there were previously unknown others involved.

          He’s under oath
          Not there specifically to testify about that report.
          Didn’t have the report to refer to.
          And didn’t want to confirm something on the record that he could’t recall exactly.

          There’s a lot of people involved in all of this
          several who’s names we don’t even know.
          But the good news is…..BARR knows who they were.

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    • GB Bari says:

      I’m going to respectfully disagree with that call.

      IMO the IG did a respectable job **working only from his memory** in the few minutes of questioning under Rep. Jordan in the two videos. I give IG Horowitz the benefit of the doubt considering that, IMHO, he only hesitated at that one particular question, lacking access to a copy of the report, because it involved a very specific list of names.

      Much as WE know those names, the IG has looked at probably 100 times the amount of information that we have seen, in detail. I would be surprised – and mightily impressed – if he had verified those names from memory.

      Just MHO.

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      Indeed and especially the ones that are repeated over and over.

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  11. Kelly says:

    The proof was in the pudding of the
    texts Strzok /Page! What in their texts
    would have led anyone to think out of
    common sense that those 2 were the right ones to determine what should or
    should not be classified in those
    Comey memos? They had intentions
    of stopping PDJT before he was elected!! “We will stop him”!

    I find it very hard to have faith in these
    IG reports besides it giving little
    jabs at these FBI or any other agencies
    involved in this scandal. Then it makes
    it easy for their criminal referrals to be
    declined from the DOJ !

    As I’ve always felt the IG is to make
    waves into ripples for the DOJ to
    sweep it under the rug..once again!
    An this will happen again, but not
    to DemoRat !!

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      I find it very hard to have faith in these IG reports besides it giving little
      jabs at these FBI or any other agencies involved in this scandal.

      Just curious….have you read any of these reports.

      The IG’s job is NOT to JAB.
      It’s to document the facts he/she is able to collect.
      And if comes across evidence of a obvious/plausible crime report that immediately.
      Additionally, report any departmental policy or rule infractions.

      It’s up the US Attorneys to make any criminal cases.
      It’s the AG’s job to JAB.

      Rosenstein didn’t
      We’ll see if Barr/Durham do.

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  12. butch cassidy says:

    It’s absolutely amazing to me all the things we are learning about. Now just think of all the things that we don’t/and might never know about. It’s like pulling a thread on a sweater. And worse,Half the country does not care about any of this and if they did they’d be overwhelmed. Maddening.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Agree Butch…overwhelming.

      Maybe you’ll feel better if you make your climate confession to NBC

      It took me about 7 1/2 hours to purge the sins of my soul and
      lift the burden I’ve been carrying like Jacob Marley.did chains

      🙂

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  13. thedoc00 says:

    Astounding logic these perps have. A fake political hit piece leads them to spy on a Presidential candidate and President after the election, as potential Russian Agent.

    2012 – Obama to Putin: “I’ll have more maneuver room after the election” didn’t raise an eyebrow??
    2009++ – Clinton and DNC servers as well as their use by foreign entities to hack the US Government and businesses didn’t raise any eyebrows.
    Links to President Obama’s classified WH accounts being on the Clinton server raised no eyebrows.
    2016 – Lynch meeting Clinton didn’t raise any eyebrows.
    The Panama Papers raided no eyebrows.
    The Clinton State Department use of Clinton Foundation raised to eyebrows.
    Arabian Sheiks publicly declaring $250 million donations to Clinton’s campaign raised to eyebrows.

    All this going on under the very noses of the IC and FBI. Then these guys have the gall to call themselves competent IC operators and defenders of the US??

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      After Obama made that comment to Medvedev, bet you he could hardly wait to get on the phone to President Putin and tell him what Obama said while everyone was listening. Putin to Medvedev “Glupi Amerikanci” with a hardly laugh. “stupid Americans”.

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    • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

      Well, may have to disagree with ya…cuz Nancy obviously demonstrates otherwise.

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  14. MicD says:

    Jordan: ~ “Was President Elect under investigation during this meeting?”
    Horowitz: “I don’t know what was going on in the Investigation (inaudible)..”
    His answer to Jim Jordan is YES, Comey lied to POTUS (elect) DJT.

    These seditious bastages covertly inject venom then leak to some “journalist”
    where the bite might be – D.C. is a Treasonous BAG of Snakes

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Pretty doubtful they admitted to Horowitz……
      or provided him any direct evidence that…..

      “Yeah….we were actually investigating Trump specifically”.

      But Horowitz sure documented what they did say they did…..
      to Barr.
      Might be helpful info down the line.

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  15. alliwantissometruth says:

    I think two words might become a key component, and those two words are “insurance policy”

    Unless these scumbags can convincingly explain they were talking about their health or auto insurance within the context of their ongoing text conversations, those words should come back to haunt them

    Of course they’ll never be able to explain away those words, so with Halloween coming up, it’ll be a good time for a haunting of a particular group of corrupt and criminal ;lowlifes

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  16. dayallaxeded says:

    Please remind me who of the seditious cabal has been indicted. Hhhmmm, no one you say. So what good is any of this?

    I no longer care at all what bs grandstanding any of these pols or bureaurats do. It’s worse than meaningless if there are no prosecutions.

    Also, RELEASE THE Fn KRAKEN! I.e., all classified docs used for FISA, Mule head, etc. Barry is violating both PDJT and public trust by failing to release everything PDJT has authorized.

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