Trey Gowdy Warns Everyone to Lower Their Expectations…

Former congressman Trey Gowdy warns everyone to tamp down expectations from the IG report on FISA abuse. One point of focus from Horowitz’s letter today is that he *only* looked at the singular FISA issues surrounding Carter Page, nothing more.

…”Relating to a certain U.S. person.”

Therefore if Carter Page was not a victim; meaning if Carter Page was an active participant (mole) in the FBI operation – willing to be the vehicle by which the Steele Dossier could be injected into the investigation; then there will likely be no criminal conduct outlined by Horowitz.  The head of the tick-tock club was not happy with this possibility.

…”to a certain U.S. person”…

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452 Responses to Trey Gowdy Warns Everyone to Lower Their Expectations…

  1. Garavaglia says:

    They can’t get any lower.

    Liked by 7 people

    • JoeMeek says:

      Hopes for Justice go way unda limbo stick

      Liked by 3 people

    • huecowacko says:

      I have never have had any expectation of justice being served, that’s not the way DC works.

      Liked by 3 people

      • littleanniefannie says:

        I think we have come to realize that the DC swamp writes the rules so that they apply ONLY to them. This, above all, is why we need term limits. What has happened to DiFi for employing a ChiCom agent as her driver? Go in the Wayback machine, how did Teddy Kennedy avoid a murder trial for Mary Jo? How about the myriad of coincidences surrounding an “epidemic” of suicides surrounding the Clintons? How do so many Congress members go in as upper middle class and leave Congress in that magical top 1%?
        What Trey is saying is that we need to prepare ourselves for not only a letdown in the IG report but a big raspberry from the entire Obama criminal cabal for the plethora of criminal activities. Should we expect this to slow down? Why would it? I am not, by any means, saying that this started with the Obama administration. What I am saying is that, like the national debt, there were more examples of totally abusing the intelligence community than all previous administrations combined. Wonder how Obama and his Moose would feel if the Trump IC went after Sasha and Malia? Then again, they are so self-absorbed, I doubt they would give it a second thought!

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        • oldumb says:

          Term Limits? To defeat deep state? Exactly backward. Term limits will GUARANTEE weak elected know nothings and extra powerful and connected entrenched lifers running the place.
          I would rather keep my choice open to keep voting for Nunes instead of time dictating my choice. Out Jim Jordan you have served your term i- n Mr. weakling yes man….
          Fail to see term limits as fixing anything.

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      • shirley49 says:

        Not on the Dems anyway. We have several innocent Republicans paying the price for something they did not do.


    • mtk says:

      They can’t get any lower.

      Yes, they can.

      There has always been something troubling about certain photos that place certain people side by side that ‘popular wisdom’ would say they are oil and water to the current popular preceptions as presented from a MSM many agreed to having already sold us out.
      But in fact relate to a connection of marching in lock step to a great leap forward. Just might explain why the disconnect of visable Justice is tolerated.

      I have study this, to the point one can say this is a 2500 year old conflict.
      The Just State arguments.
      Socrates would argue, ‘If our Consituitional Order was Just, then none of our social big questions would have presented themselves. QED, as would said.
      Let me be clear…
      In no absolute terms would Socrates have argued the correlativative remedy as being more Just. He would simply have just Stated the failures show that absolute Justice has not been achieved.

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  2. JoeMeek says:

    America, a nation of the people, by the people and for the people of the criminals, by the criminals and for the criminals

    Liked by 7 people

    • Bill Durham says:

      Think folks! This is a produced and rehearsed TV show. Hannity had gowdy on because hannity has been exposed. this is hannity trying to walk back 3 years worth of false and exaggerated reporting. All the predictions of indictments, arrests, and jail time have to be swept away. And then Sean will quickly transition to Durham. Sean is not a very good actor. The fisa report is strike 2. Sean is hoping that Durham takes 6 more years. He wants to con his audience for several years. Sara John and Joe will be talking about Durham tic tocs starting Monday.

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  3. James Alan Groome says:

    I don’t believe that Carter Page knew the FBI were going to the FISA courts and getting warrants to get every single bit of his comms plus 2 hops…. It seems to me when he discovered unbeknownst to him that in SECRET PRIVATE COURT DOCS he was being called a RUSSIAN AGENT he was more than a little pissed off.

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  4. Mike says:

    It makes no sense to me that Carter Page was a participant, in an investigation that allowed the “justice” department to knowingly to spy on him. Who would do that? He is suing them for Pete’s sake. I have no confidence in Wray, and much doubt in Haspel. That said, my hope is in Barr and Durham.

    If you read the IG McCabe report, McCabe is done. The only way a GJ doesn’t indict him is if the US attorney sandbagged it. (Like Luke Rosiak’s book exposes how the “justice” department let Awan go) Remember Debbie Wasserman-Schultz’s brother is an assistant USA in that office. So who is the AUSA prosecuting McCabe?

    Give McCabe a target letter. That means McCabe is about to be indicted. If he has a card to play he can play it. If not, indict him. Read the IG report, he WILL be convicted if he doesn’t plead out.

    If McCabe pleads guilty to lying, or is convicted of it, think about how pathetic his defense will be if he is charged with the coup?

    “Self admitted liar” or “convicted liar” Andrew McCabe says he was ‘mislead’ by Peter Strzok, when Strzok swore that the information provided by Christopher Steele was “truthful and reliable.”

    It’s not that hard.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      I thought all Barr said was they were waiting for the the IG reports to be done. I don’t think that means they will be solely bound by them.

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    • farrier105 says:

      The possibility is that Page just wasn’t spied upon to the extent we think. Most of this stupid story was made up (Steele “Dossier”); nothing but fiction. This is looking more and more as if the story allegedly found in the hacked emails, Twitter account, and smartphone of Deray McKesson told the entire story about the ORIGINAL Establishment plan to keep Obama in office beyond the election. The plan was to use the DNC cheating, and the pending nomination of “racist” Trump to ignite nationwide riots that disrupt both conventions, making it impossible to nominate the two opposing candidates. Obama has to declare national emergency, impose martial law, and stay into a third term.

      But McKesson got hacked, so they had to call an audible. McKesson’s hacking got publicized on the very same day that the Establishment’s DNC “hack” was first publicized, June 14, 2016. Think of that. June 14 was the launch of the pretext for “spontaneous” rioting at the Democratic National Convention that had to be scrubbed. On the start date, a new plan had to be hatched on the fly. It has still been going on ever since. Until we see who gets the 2020 Democratic nomination, this is still a viable theory, but just a theory.

      At any rate, I did tell everyone that it is not that hard to dream up a predicate, and Barr told us that a plausible predicate would mean the operation was not done with criminal INTENT.


    • iwasthere says:

      Two words: Rodger Stone. He’s in the doc right now for purported lying to congress and the FBI. Heck one of the counts is basically a document production request: Give us all your documents on russian collusion. A: No responsive documents. That’s nothing compared to the stone cold under oath lying about some material by McCabe. Ironically, had McCabe not thrown Page under the bus for the leak, they might have gotten away with everything.


  5. arze says:

    None of the Social Actors on TV, or National Review, or the John Solomon/Mollie Hemingway/Chuck Ross/Byron York crowd state the obvious: FISA/FISC court operates outside the rule of law, outside the confines of US Constitution. None of them even talk about the fact it should be abolished or anything along those lines. The rest of the media apostles “to their left” can’t even see the abuse of this FISC.

    Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret, Ex Parte Court, this abomination must be disbanded.

    I bet the wonderful IG Horowitz who has yet to “prevent” any abuse before it’s occurred, despite that being a key part of his job, won’t connect the fact his DOJ/FBI folk have completely rendered FISC, as an institution, an enemy of the people. Even though that is smack dab in the middle of his lane, he will continue the charade that the system isn’t broken, just some bad apples, blah blah blah.

    Since of if no one be held accountable for the ongoing and continuing use/abuse of FISC, the only rational thing to do is get rid of this monstrosity that never should have been created in the first place.

    Who in Congress, or the Judiciary, or the White House is raising their hand to abolish this FISC abomination?

    Instead we spend $30M for Mueller to try and verify the Steele Dossier, have rats running the FBI, maniacs running the CIA, and a fifth column called the US Congress.

    Why do I get the feeling that Trump is among the few who actually knows who the enemy is, in Washington–despite his bobbing and weaving and sometimes obscuring that essential thing?

    An apropos book might be called: Trump’s Ride on the DC Orient Express —

    I reread Mueller sentencing memo of Gen. Flynn today; Mueller did not request zero jail time; he said zero to six months. So, when is IG Horowtiz going to investigate the Mueller sentencing memos of Gen. Flynn?

    He won’t because Horowitz has no imagination, much like Rosenstein. A pair of limp dicks…the epitome of ineptitude.

    Lastly for tonight: why isn’t Horowitz investigating the BRADY violations related to the Flynn case?

    Where ever we look, there is malfeasance, corruption, lawlessness and contempt, with villainy sprinkled all over the top.

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    • Rynn69 says:

      Exceptionally good post, arze.


    • Dutchman says:

      While I would agree with the overall thrust of your post, I disagree that the I.G.’s purpose, let alone PRIMARY function, is to prevent misconduct, malfeasance, whatever.

      He functions in a review, after the fact format. A kind of ‘lessons learned’ mode.

      Given the mess as DOJ and FBI, which IS Horowitz’s turf, I don’t care how big a staff he has, there is enough malfeasance for 10 I.G.’s.

      As to why he isn’t investigating Brady violations in Flynn case, probably stays away from investigating cases pending before the,courts?

      But, beyond that Flynn case isn’t unique, its pretty obvious SOME DOJ prosecutors have been ignoring Brady ruling for,YEARS, and Horowitz SHOULD have been ON that.

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      • Linda K. says:

        Did they have a FISA on Flynn? Or was Carter Page sufficient for their ends? Why did Carter come on so many news shows?


      • arze says:

        As for “prevent misconduct” — yes, that’s a hard job. However, the very first line on IG government website states the function of IG [in this case Horowitz] is “to detect AND deter” corruption.

        “The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) in the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) is a statutorily created independent entity whose mission is to detect and deter waste, fraud, abuse, and misconduct in DOJ programs and personnel.”

        That’s their story, and they should live up to it, or stop lying to us and claiming that is what they do; clearly, they don’t, and, as we have seen, either can’t, or don’t know how to. Or more likely, don’t care and don’t want to. If they did, following the Sen. Ted Stevens prosecution fiasco, a separate IG Office of BRADY Prevention Abuse would have been created forthwith. Let’s not hold our breath waiting for that Office to prevent Brady Abuse to be created, staffed and run.


        • Dutchman says:

          I suspect, while they don’t state it, the I.G. deters by A) reccomending changes to policy, procedure and rules, when they detect a ‘loophole’that one of their investigations uncovered, and that an employee has exploited. That WOULD deter others exploiting in the future.
          In addition, theoretically KNOWING an I.G.’s office exist, and that he CAN look over their shoulder, ‘keeps employees honest” and the deterence that theoretically comes from employees being caught and punished, deterring others.
          Personally, I think that last is weak, myself.
          Laws and law enforcement are like locks; they keep honest people honest.
          MOST dishonest people never think they are going to get caught, so there is little if any deterence.

          If you think of the I.G., as someine in a large corporation, charged with investigating a possible,…impropriety? Its a pretty good comparison. If this persin, working for the corporatiin discovers CRIMINAL wrongdoing, one would THINK he/she should immediately inform L.E.

          Generally, the first inform “the boss”, however and the boss may decide NOT to inform LE, due to bad P.R., etc.
          And, if the investigation leads to those HIGH in the organisation? Again, the Boss may decide to sweep it under the rug.
          So, the I.G. can only go so far, then its up to the “Boss”, which is now Barr.


          • arze says:

            IG Horowitz knew immediately, via a whistle blower [sympathetic to James Comey] all about the Comey memos that turned the key on appointment of Mueller.

            Horowitz new this stuff prior to Mueller’s actual appointment.

            Horowitz did nothing to prevent $30M being spent on that fiasco — even though that is exactly his job: to detect and deter waste, fraud, abuse, and misconduct.

            When an IG lacks the basics to even recognize waste, fraud, abuse, when it is right in front of him, what is the point of having an IG? In fact, this viper doesn’t lack those skills.

            Don’t kid yourself: Horowitz if he wasn’t cheering for the appointment of Mueller and feeling the $30M wasn’t a damn good investment, this viper may as well have been.

            After the fact hang-wringing is not what they are supposed to do, even if that is Horowitz’ specialty–it’s not Comey’s fault Horowitz is a more adept back-stabber and survivor who continues to slither and slide within this Administration.

            What is more likely to believe:
            1]Horowitz wanted Mueller to screw President Trump, or
            2]Horowtiz did not want Mueller to screw Trump?

            What did Horowitz do in May 2017, Comey memos in hand? Horowitz grabbed his popcorn and watched this perfidy unfold. Is that what someone sworn to uphold the Constitution does?

            The fact Horowitz did nothing at the time prior to Mueller’s appointment is an indictment of Horowitz.

            The fact he has done nothing about BRADY/DOJ abuse in the Gen. Flynn case is an indictment of Horowtiz.

            While we’re on the topic, where was Horowitz’ report on the fact no one in the Obama DOJ signed off on the Susan Rice “by the book” memo? That is for the Justice Dept. to determine — not the National Security Advisor.

            Where was Michael?

            Eating popcorn.


            • Dutchman says:

              Wow, really got a hard on for Horowitz, huh?
              Well, after reading Sundances excellent review of the “operation zero footprint” in which Hillary funneled weopons to ISIS in Syria, and the second operation (we,still don’t know the name of) to funnel weopons to ISIS in Lybia, and the clusterf*ck when it all went sideways, known as BENGHAZI, I am absolutely convinced the Gang of Eight, and SSIC, the leadership of both parties in both Houses was fully complicit, which is why Mitch ordered Gowdy to ‘clean it up’

              Ditto the fast and furious, designed to create,a gun crises, in order to justify Obama issueing executive orders to abrogate 2A.

              Ditto the Lerner op, illegally using IRS to target Tea Party.

              So, I am equally confident Leadership of BOTH “Parties” in both Houses, was fully on board with using the NSA database, to blackmail/coerce congress and Judges, in order to effect policy.

              And, I am likewise quite confident Congressional leadership, both Houses, both faces of the Uniparty, were FULLY on board with MYE, to exonerate Hillary, AND Crossfire Hurricane, AND the Mueller investigation.

              So, does anyone REALLY think that Mitch is going to order his caucus to approve an A.G. that will REALLY investigate and “get to the bottom” of the Russia collusion hoax, when the trail leads RIGHT to him?
              Now, anyone is free to disagree with my assertion that Mitch and co. were ‘in on’ fast and furious, benghazi, etc.

              But, if you think in terms of Republican vs Democrats, any one of these scandals would have been political GOLD for the Republicans!

              Why WOULDN’T they have blown them wide open, to hurt their “opposition”? And yet we have the Obama admin as “one of the most,scandal free administrations, ever”?
              Anyway, if you ACCEPT my assertions, that leadership of both parties/houses was on board with ALL of this, then and only then does it all make sense.
              And then you can not believe Barr, or Horowitz is going to do any more than Gowdy. “Bad things happened, but no one did anything wrong!”

              Getting mad at,Horowitz, or Barr is like getting mad,atcthe dig that bit you, cause the owner didn’t have control of his dog.
              Or, more accurately, because the owner commanded his dog to bite you.
              Obama, Hillary, McConnell, Ryan, Pelosi, Schumer, Thune, Durbin, Warner, Burr, McCain, Graham, Grassley, and undoubtedly a few others. THEY, collectively are the SOURCE. THEY originated it, and ordered it. It could not POSSIBLY have been attempted, by swamp creatures (who, by their nature are focused first and foremost on their survival) like McCabe, Comey, Brennan etc. unless the KNEW, absolutely, that RepubliCONS in Congress would cover for them, if ‘things’ went South.

              So, why focus on the dog, just doing his masters bidding. Aim your sights higher, at the damn owner.


    • Raghn Crow says:

      “Instead we spend $30M for Mueller to try and verify the Steele Dossier, have rats running the FBI, maniacs running the CIA, and a fifth column called the US Congress.”

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    • cboldt says:

      Good post. I’ve been saying similar for a couple years.
      Gowdy had a good point, and the best Jarrett could do was “false statements or perjury to the court.” Just so. Which, FWIW, Gowdy previously told tic-toc Hannity, good job for citing a criminal statute.
      If the charge is criminal snooping, the indictment open a can of worms that the government does not want opened. FISA is unconstitutional because it RESTRAINS (not because it enables too much) snooping.
      And Lindsey Graham never saw problem he couldn’t fix with, wait for it, MORE LAWS.


      • arze says:

        “Deprivation of rights under color of law”

        I don’t know what planet those talking heads Gowdy and Jarrett are living on.

        One claims to have been a prosecutor who never lost a case and then a congressman; the other, a lawyer.

        Perhaps they’ve never heard of the federal civil rights crime known as: deprivation of rights under color of law.

        But of course they have and they, like many on all sides of the elites — are playing us with their Fox Fiddles as fools.

        Since they can’t and won’t state the obvious, I’ll take the liberty to do so:

        “Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.” [Read: FISA abuse and surveillance for no rational reason] [Read: FBI director claiming to brief USA president when instead he is running a “counter-terrorism/counter-intelligence/FISA plot to get president arrested and thrown in jail] [Read: ditto Gen. Flynn] [Or as George Papadopolous calls it: “Deep State Hoax] etc. etc.

        That law states:
        “For the purpose of Section 242, acts under “color of law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official’s lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.

        “The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

        “TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

        “Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.”

        The Obama Clan can claim “By The Book” all they want. This law and our constitution was designed precisely to address those who burn books.

        The OC and Talking Heads and their fellow fifth columnists, adept at looking the other way, are our enemies.

        And are telling us Barr/Durham/Huber will continue to walk in the land of the blind with both eyes closed.


  6. Bill Durham says:

    I have been saying for years that hannity and the tic toc club are going to have their Rachel maddow moment. Note how the closer we get to the report, they are back tracking on all their bold predictions. They put their faith in Mueller. We put our faith in Horowitz. We are as dumb as an MSNBC or CNN audience. We got snookered. Or rather, you got snookered because I saw this coming. And for that I was called an eyeore and a concern troll. Those who said that can first apologize to me and then bite me. And go pound sand. I hope hannity ratings collapse. Solomon, Carter, and digenova are conspiracy frauds who should consider other lines of work. They perpetrated a fraud on their audience. Hannity wanted to milk this for 6 more years. They are scrambling to find an excuse. 4 illegal fisa warrants???? LoL!

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    • lokiscout says:

      Preach it, Brother! We had “Too big to fail” and now we have “Too big to fall/prosecute”!

      Liked by 1 person

      • JoeMeek says:

        Too big to jail.

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        • Rynn69 says:

          Not true. People were jailed over Watergate and a President resigned in disgrace. Nobody is too big. The question is, is Bill Barr the real deal or not. If not, justice will die on the day they conclude nobody will be held accountable. That will be his signature achievement.

          You don’t think they would indict Trump if they could find something? Yeah, they would. The “Too Big To Jail” line is a cop-out phrase to justify inaction.

          JoeMeek – not criticizing you in particular. IMHO, just pointing out that if this were a Republican it would darn well happen and it would have happened long ago.

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          • Dutchman says:

            How about “Too CONNECTED to Jail”?
            If you are connected to those who have subverted our criminal justice system, and are doing their bidding, you get a free pass. If not you get the book upside the head; its not how BIG you are or aren’t, its who you are connected with.

            In other words “Its a BIG club, and YOU ain’t IN it!”,..and neither is PDJT.

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            • Rynn69 says:

              I’m liking it, Dutchman. Too connected to jail…


            • Raghn Crow says:

              Neither is Sidney Powell, and somehow the President needs to appoint her as A.G. Perhaps once he wins the election next year?


              • Dutchman says:

                If McConnell or Thune are majority leader, they won’t allow Powell to be confirmed.
                However, PDJT said while he didn’t WANT to, if NECESARY he would get personally involved. My thought is, after 2020 he does. As chief law enforcement officer, he ‘asks for’Barr and Wrays resignations, and DOES NOT appoint a new acting.
                He takes charge, and then appoints Sidney as “Councellor to POTUS”, or some similar title which dorsn’t require Senate confirmation.
                “Her portfolio will be flexible, and will consist of ADVISING the,President on a variety of legal policy issues.”
                In actuality, acting as AG housecleaner, without the,title or the authority; it will be POTUS issueing the orders, upon recieving council and advice.
                Its the only way to get around McConnell and the G of 7; no way they are going to agree to the appointment of an A.G. that is truly going to investigate a coup that,was instigated at their behest.

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    • JoeMeek says:

      When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Trust the Plan and Trust Hannity.


    • Garavaglia says:

      Kinda feels like what Sharpton and Jackson pull with the constant race baiting…at least it does to me.


    • GP says:

      I have little respect for Sean, but his job is to get ratings. Ergo, I said 2 years ago that they would squeeze out the very last drop of ad rev and clicks while beating this “Spygate” story in sub-atomic dead horse particles. I cut the cord 2.5 years ago, but long before that, I quit listening to ANY news. Fox has been leaning left for years. Their guest and announcers say one thing while CNN talking points are scrolling at the bottom of the screen.
      Anyway-for those that got caught up I understand why. The next time, and there will be a next time, try and remember that the DS a big club and you ain’t in it.

      Oh, and all the collective “cold anger” isn’t going to change anything. Just sayin’

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    • Moe Grimm says:

      1! Though I never put my faith in Barr for more than one reason including his pro bono defense of fbi Lon Horiuchi for the murder of Randy Weaver’s wife in Bonner’s Ferry aka Ruby Ridge – bargained down to manslaughter which he beat then went on to work his magic at Waco where he would have too been charged with murder there had not the barrel on his issued rifle been changed immediately after that siege rendering bullet/barrel forensics impossible. The barrel was scrapped before the re-barrelling. The facts are easily found, and more, verified.

      I don’t fault Hannity for his anger at what these serpents did, but he should have known who controls Mordor on the Potomac and not come off as such a girly boy cheerleader, Sounds like he’s already thinking the heat he’s likely about to receive. MSLSDCNN will have a FIELD DAY with him if this shakes out as it was always destined to to begin with. More that a rapidly declining fox network is surely looking to be rid of him anyway. I fault Trump for appointing Wray and Barr. Trump, G_d Bless him for all he’s done, has done a generally lousy job with appointments. Anyone who appoints the likes of a Christopher Wray cannot be serious about reforming that jackboot 3 letter ‘agency’ – same for Just-Us. Too bad Giuliani didn’t want the chair. If he’d have accepted it we’d very likely had grand juries months ago with the first indictments being handed up by now.

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  7. Deplorable Saint says:

    Or, is the FISA Court involved in the attempted coup?


  8. MR52 says:

    This sounds like obstruction at about 50 different levels and the people that can do something about it are not in power to do anything about it. Fire them all. Problem is the Senate holds the power to do something about it. We’re screwed.

    Only hope is a 3rd Party, but they have the elections so rigged, not even sure we could do that.

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    • Rynn69 says:

      MR52 – we do have options. A big one is primaries to oust RINOs and dirt. The problem is when they get there, the Senate I am speaking of, they better join “the club” or else. Look at Marsha Blackburn’s face or any of them once they get in the Senate. It’s like they “Had the Talk.”

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  9. HickTick says:

    I cant believe Gowdy would come out and say this bull , He knows they all signed a FISA warrant
    stating that Page was a Russian Spy . No doubt they all lied to the FISA court .


    • noswamp says:

      Of course fraud was perpetrated on the court. Hard to prove fraud? How about 4 times by signing FISA warrants. And note the silence of the FISA court. They are in on the coup too in my opinion.

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      The issue with Gowdy and why so many here dislike him (besides the hairdo), is that he tells it exactly like he sees it coming. He did dampen Hannity’s dialog, no doubt about it. But the cold water that Gowdy throws on this is a wake up call to us as well. We do not like what he says but I think it is well if we pay attention to it.

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    • cboldt says:

      Gowdy agreed that there was a possible false statements or perjury crimes.
      I personally doubt that. The warrant application is “so and so told me such and such,” and even if such and such is false, the so and so told me part is true.


  10. David Parsons says:

    This is stupid. You don’t need a complaining “victim” to commit a felony.
    Drunk Driving? Tax Evasion? Perjury? …..

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  11. JoeMeek says:

    Dear AG William Barr, cc Tray Growdy

    Decency, security and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commands to the citizen. In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperilled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our Government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.

    – Justice Brandeis, Olimstead v. United States 277 U.S. 438 (1928)

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Trey Gowdy is NOT the prosecutor here. He is a talking (rooster) head with a very firm idea about what will be the likely outcome. Now, could Barr raise the Barr? Sure. According to Mr. Gowdy, it does not seem likely.
      But Mr. Gowdy is only giving his (paid for) opinion. IMO, he makes sense (and I could almost hate him for that).

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  12. Gowdy never lost a case because he picked low-hanging fruit and slam-dunks, justice be damned.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. Carrie says:

    Hannity also seems stuck on the “Steele” dossier. Why doesn’t he mention the Nellie and Bruce Ohr angle to show the entire inception of the dossier was based on her computer access of the FBI database and Steele was just a laundry cycle to defect where the information originated from?
    It’s like Sundance always says-focus on the lack of predicate of a crime and how the entire thing was born as a fraud.

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    • Mike says:

      Exactly. The FISA warrant was an after the fact cover up for spying on the Trump campaign that began in late 2015 or early 2016. I have been saying for years that Carter Page was in on it. His lack of outrage, his refusal to hire legal counsel, his playing the affable fool, and the absence of any charges against him were telling. Page could be directed to various targets through the two hop rule.

      Nellie Ohr, Simpson, Blumenthal, Shearer, and Steele were the co-authors of the dossier, which was a series of memoranda submitted piecemeal over 6 months. The dossier was part of the coverup as well. Brennan was the orchestrator of the plot to take down candidate Trump and then President Trump. If there is no accountability for what transpired, the Republic is finished.

      Deep State will do whatever is necessary to preserve the surveillance tools they now have and rationalize their actions as necessary for national security.

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  14. bayoukiki says:

    Trey should have said this a long time ago. Proving once again that he’s all hat, no cattle

    Liked by 2 people

  15. A2 says:

    I agree with Gowdy that you have to identify the statute under which you prosecute. Perpetually outraged Hannity thinks out loud like a teen memorising lines from his favourite boy band. Not disparaging the source of the outrage.

    However, for all those spouting ‘treason’ from the parapets, you have to remember that the IG investigation into Fara is on the issue of illegally obtaining a visa warrant on the DJT campaign, and as of that date, DJT was a private citizen. Any ‘treason’ can only be vetted after he was duly elected as President. I think that is why Nunes keeps mentioning how any abuse of the system affects very citizen.

    After the President was elected and sworn in, any activity in spy gate misusing the system is fair game.

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    • Kitty-Kat says:

      Once again, the Republicans are posturing themselves into a circular firing squad. Meanwhile, we see no such doubts or wavering from the Democrats no matter how flimsy their grounds, for example what Nadler is now doing; they stick to their script and seldom publicly disagree with each other.

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  16. CountryDoc says:

    China fooled everyone with a cunning, dragon, disguised as a Panda, using Kim Jung Un to be the stupid drama queen to distract and agitate the U.S. All the while they were robbing us blind and destroying us. A wolf in sheep’s clothing. North Korea is fairly quiet and insignificant now. China is having to negotiate directly now, naked and exposed.

    In the same way, the CoC (large companies, globalists) are the cunning wolves in sheep clothing. They play the part of the Patriots, businessmen, stewards of the financial infrastructure. They use the Dems, liberals, muslims as the drama queens and agitators. Relative to the Coup, the dems (russia, racist, collusion, impeach) are relatively silent.

    Trump has led the way to exposing China. Trump has led the way to exposing the CoC/Globalists. Now Trey, the RINOs, and the CoC is going to have to negotiate directly with the American people, with PDJT and the Wilburines negotiating on our behalf. They are growing more naked and exposed each day. The more they fight the more they expose themselves.

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  17. swamph8er says:

    The IG investigation was always a dead end for justice. It was never designed to look into crimes.

    In 2014, the FBI got a FISA on Carter Page after he infiltrated an Russian organization and got within “2 hops” of his subject.

    Sound familiar?

    Liked by 2 people

  18. franuche says:

    “A Republic, if you can keep it.”

    It would seem that the American experiment is nearly over. Of course, Barr could prove me wrong.

    Tic toc, indeed.

    Liked by 4 people

  19. dustycowpoke says:

    There is so many tentacles in this story and the one Trump card. Will it be played now or will the Trump card be played in due time. Inquiring minds…

    Liked by 3 people

  20. R Daneel says:

    Nothing is going to happen.
    No one is going to be indicted.
    No one is going to be charged.
    No one is going to jail.

    Welcome to the FUSA Banana Republic.

    It’s a big club and we ain’t in it.

    Liked by 1 person

  21. Nigella says:

    He’s just being honest.. I really don’t expect much from the IG report

    Liked by 1 person

  22. Kleen says:

    The pledge of allegiance needs to be updated.

    The justice for all thingy is outdated, old.

    Liked by 1 person

  23. swamph8er says:

    Now look at all the other times the FBI lied to get a FISA on our own spies to illegally surveil a target.
    I’ll start the list:
    2014 Carter Page (Victor Podobnyy)

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  24. Newhere says:

    Looking at each episode of conduct in isolation, through the limited tools employed by the IG, nothing seems to rise to the level of a prosecutable crime. How convenient. It also keeps the “event” of these report drops totally context-free, like each one just falls from the sky out of nowhere, and “journalists” treat them like nothing exists outside the 4 corners of the report. Again, convenient.

    I can buy it that these IG reports are helpful to establish facts — just like the hasty “17 agency” intelligence assessment on Russia served the purpose of etching into stone the “facts” that Russia hacked the DNC and wanted Trump to win. By establishing things in official reports, it at least creates a factual baseline that the MSM dare not challenge (and that grand juries even in DC can’t brush off). At least it will be beyond question that the 4 FISAs on Carter Page were illegally obtained, assuming leaks are true. If this help Durham build cases, well good.

    Of course, slowly meting out IG reports is also precisely what a cover up or whitewash looks like. And given past experience and what we’ve seen so far, it still sure seems like that’s what’s happening.

    Hope springs eternal. Panning out — the action on 5eyes/NATO intelligence leaks bodes well: high level resignations have rolled out (Australia, Italy … and I think the UK) and of course the arrest we just learned about in Canada. And the steady pushback and exposure of Chinese espionage activity. It’s moving slow — but was any of this remotely on the radar, pre-Trump? It has to intersect with Spygate activity, even if somewhat tangentially (though perhaps even directly). Plus — for all the disappointment and bitterness over the Huber head-fake, we still don’t *know* his work is all for not; there’ve been indications he’s working on CF; and why draw out *two* serious investigations (Huber, Durham) as decoys, when surely one would do? So maybe we’re not wrong to harbor hope that it’s different this time. There’s at least some evidence to make it more than mere wishful thinking.

    Maybe we’ll at least get another firing out of the IG report. I vote for Wray or Boente. With Durham still out there allowing us to hope, I’d take it if we finally lose a few more bad apples.

    And one last thing: it was a really annoying — and fairly tone deaf — for Gowdy to moralize that we all should be happy, and see the significance, of “consequences” other than indictment. Bad talking point. Better to highlight the limitations of IG reports, and then say what he thinks may still be coming, if anything. Less insulting to the audience.

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    • coyne says:

      gowdy’s a cuck as is hannity – but he may very well be right for a change. what then? Hold on for Yang’s $1k a month redistribution? They’re going to walk. only question now is what the heartland is willing to do about it.

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    • Dutchman says:

      The reason to roll out a second ‘head fake’ (Durham) if thats what it is, you ask?
      Because head fakes have a shelf life, and hope springs eternal. Huber, at a certain point of not producing, caused most to conclude he,was a head fake by Sessions.
      So, you bring in Sessions 2.0, (Barr), he appoints Huber 2.0 (Durham), and because hope springs eternal, people hope like charlie brown, that THIS time, Lucy won’t pull the football away.

      Reminds me of the ‘comeback’on a short street con; “go, get some more $, and come win all your $ back!”

      Yeah, it AIN’T gonna happen. All your gonna do is give the conmen MORE of your $. Cause the game is FIXED, and you got CONNED. But rather than admit that, even to themselves many DO come back, and lose still more. Cause of hope, and denial.

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  25. Kleen says:

    If the swamp rules, why don’t we just get rid of elections?

    The reason I say that is the GOP is part of the swamp.
    The uniparty, why vote? Why have a Republican Senate or House? Let them fight each other for power. Why should I get involved and give them?

    I will vote for Trump, but if no one goes to jail is that even worth it?

    Trump should just sell his assests and seek asylum in Poland or something. They will throw him and his entire family in jail after they rig the election and he is out.

    We are dealing with organized criminals who took over the country. Just like China, North Korea, Iran.

    They can jail anyone they want. They are after Trump and haven’t given up. We have not seen the end.

    Voting is such a waste of time.

    Seriously, if nothing is done to the cabal. Voting is the most stupid thing one can do.


    • Moe Grimm says:

      The voting thing – correct you are and even so, the moth breathing idiots who compose some 65% of this “electorate” will likely again split the legislature. Why bother again. Same schidt. Same results. Hell, the recucks elevated a feckless idiot with Ryan then install McCarthy. Idiots in places like Utah? Romney for nothing more than he’s viewed as a “native son” and part of their LDS cult now running dope in some localities to $upport it. Romney, ever the flaming cuck, out today claiming he’ll again not support Trump. I’ll say one thing in favor of the d’rat – they hold the line tough. Lock step man. Spicy times coming.


  26. luke says:

    Gowdy was complete bullshit!!!


  27. Arrest Soros says:

    My poor beloved American cousins are living in a banana republic.
    But don’t worry, Europe is well ahead of you and my home (Australia) is not far behind.
    Banana republics all around for our grand kids.

    Liked by 1 person

  28. Kleen says:

    Now Gowdy tells us. Why weren’t people saying that, years ago.

    Joe Digenova was saying the Investigation was related to all 4 FISAs and they were all illegal

    What a mess! This is insane!

    I tuned in to Hannity radio today and Graham was on. Good gawd that little man knows how to dodge a question. He was trying to pretend to be mad at the cabal but at the same refusing to say they should be punished. He did not want to go there at all!


  29. Kleen says:

    There’s one last hope.

    The few good agents in the agencies.
    The same ones who opened up to Solomon.

    They should raise hell to save this country. Other than that, we got nothing.

    We are not willing to protest like the yellow vests.


  30. Kleen says:

    Every time I heard someone being optimistic about justice and we had some docs released It never made sense to me when I watched the criminal cabal’s actions.
    They were all smiles, selling books, traveling, giving speeches… notice Flynn is not doing that. He is worried. That’s how worried people act.

    Comey? Hillary? Obama?

    All smiles, living large, not a care in the world! Life is so good!

    Like they know the outcome is they love it!

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  31. Bryan Alexander says:

    It is time to stop being nice to folks like Trey Gowdy and William Barr. They need to be told to their face that they are spineless traitors to the United States Constitution.

    William Barr needs to be called out on National TV. There is no way on earth that the FISA warrants on Carter Page were “good faith” efforts by the FBI. If he won’t prosecute this, he needs to resign today.

    If he won’t declassify everything, he needs to resign immediately. I can guarantee you the Russians know 10 times more than we do about the sources and methods in this scandal. They are just scared of offending the first black president and don’t have a spine to stand up and enorce the law.


    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Please keep in mind that Trey Gowdy is NOT in Congress and is only giving an opinion. He is not a member of the Administration. He can do nothing but offer an opinion. As we all do here. Some we like, some we respect, some mirror our thoughts, and others do not. But he is only an opinion giver.


  32. Kleen says:

    Carter Page was never outraged like the other targets.

    I would like to volunteer myself to be next Carter Page so Trump can spy on the cabal



  33. Kleen says:

    The next question has to be:
    How often they did this and how many victims of spying for political reason ?

    Are these agencies a country within our country? With their own laws? Separate laws?

    How many other Carter Pages are there?

    Was this their policy?

    Why did they involved other countries?


  34. Liberty ONE says:

    Easy peazy. The DC SWAMP extends to the depth of Hell. They are 98% ALL connected. Therefore, justice is served on US…….NOT them.


  35. evergreen says:

    When Flynn gets his case tossed out of court, will Powell represent him in civil suits against McCabe, Comey, and Carter Page?

    Liked by 1 person

  36. US says:

    Hope tic-toc ls not yet another Lois Lerner cover-up. President Trump deserves Justice. After all, he is our best president in since George Washington.


    • oldumb says:

      …and the chairman of the tic toc club is President Trump’s friend of 20 years. Everyone disparages Hannity and derides his agenda – forgetting who’s corner he is in and the tens of millions he educates,


  37. Dutchman says:

    How many times, how long? FBI/CIA bugged Candidate Barry Goldwater, in the runup to the 1964 POTUS election, and used the info obtained to succesfully torpedo his campaign.

    Stephan Halper was involved in the,Reagan campaign and administration.

    While the methods may have changed with technology, the underlieng methodology has been there all along.

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  38. Rynn69 says:

    “The head of the tick-tock club.” I love Sundance’s wit. Just love it. Always makes me smile.


  39. Dim Osmab says:

    I just had idea how they can get away with FISA abuse.
    like Bongino said – Comey outsmarted system – he used his lawyer to leak, so he is protected.

    Here is my theory – The affiant in FISA is some agent (A1) who didn’t know about dossier.
    So Strzok and co give him application, tell him that information is good, A1 signs FISA warrant
    and technically he is NOT lying, he has no intent to lie, he was told that info is good.

    So affiant is some dummy who was used to protect cabal.

    And Strzok and co lied to affiant, but they didnt lied to court under oath.

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  40. Gowdy makes a good point. These people are all weasels and they wrote the laws with weasel escape hatches.

    Liked by 1 person

  41. The Boss says:

    This video has to be one of the most bizarre (if that’s even the right adjective) exchanges ever. Very clear that Gowdy wasn’t taking any bait, and equally clear that Hannity was trying to force feed Gowdy the bait anyway. Gowdy pushed Hannity’s buttons hard, and Hannity blinked. I doubt we’ll see many more videos of Gowdy as a guest with Hannity.

    I have no quarrel with those who found this exchange illustrative of a Hannity agenda.


  42. Lester Smith says:

    Page was and is part of plot. He plays the victim but is really a willing tool of the FBI an asset! Page has come right out and said he has worked with the FBI for quite some time.
    Don’t be fooled he knew what the hell was going on. He was and is an FBI mole. His mission to gain confidence with low ranking members of team Trump. Why to set up Trump people to set an image of team Trump being in bed with the Russians.
    Pages job now is to play victim to be the puplic face. Page was not spyed apon but rather one of the spys. He plays stupid always smiling like the village idiot. He is no idiot but is all low life.


  43. Lester Smith says:

    Page was and is part of plot. He plays the victim but is really a willing tool of the FBI an asset! Page has come right out and said he has worked with the FBI for quite some time.
    Don’t be fooled he knew what the hell was going on. He was and is an FBI mole. His mission to gain confidence with low ranking members of team Trump. Why to set up Trump people to set an image of team Trump being in bed with the Russians.
    Pages job now is to play victim to be the puplic face. Page was not spyed apon but rather one of the spys. He plays stupid always smiling like the village idiot. He is no idiot but is all low life.

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  44. spoogels says:

    Former FBI deputy director’s attorneys demand he be charged or cleared as inspector general readies ANOTHER report on 2016 election – this time on the warrants used to eavesdrop on Trump campaign advisers


    • spoogels says:

      The pushback follows published reports Thursday that a federal grand jury meeting in secret left without issuing an indictment. The legal pressure also comes as Inspector General Michael Horowitz completed his review of alleged FBI surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign.


  45. Conservative_302 says:

    I have faith in Trump. No way is he going to give them a pass. It’s like everything else that’s happened in the Trump presidency. He delivers something out of the clutches of defeat. He has good people surrounding him of late. He said he will deliver. He knows we are counting on it. It benefits him more than anyone else to deliver, and I believe him. Dont give up. Have faith in Trump and God. Remember, if God is for us, who can be against us?

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  46. farrier105 says:

    All Gowdy is talking about is finding the right statute on which to charge the FISA abuse. This was the problem with Hillary and Comey. With Hillary, the Espionage Act was used. In the Uniform Code of MILITARY Justice, intent is not applied to the “gross negligence” paragraph, but in a lot of civilian courts, it is. However, if the prosecutors/investigators had used Title 18 United States Code Section 1924, you get a swift indictment for what Hillary did with the private email service and the abuse of the SCIF system. She gets up to 5 years, possibly a fine, she is finished politically, and can’t get a security clearance.

    Comey violated the same statute, but everyone looked at the leak to the New York Times and not the illegal retention and storage of classified documents about foreign relations and national security in Title 18 USC Section 1924.

    Gowdy is saying if you use the right statute, it is easier to convince a jury in a high profile case. The easier you make it for the jury to understand, the easier you get conviction at trial, and the easier you get an indictment from a grand jury.

    However, if you are trying to make it look like you are intent on prosecuting a given violator, but you make the case too complex for the jury, it is legitimate for the onlooker to wonder what the prosecutor was thinking.

    Espionage Act and intent:

    The Espionage Act Itself:

    Title 18, USC Section 1924

    18 U.S. Code § 1924.Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
    (a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.
    (b)For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
    (c)In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.

    Okay, which statute do you think a jury would find easier to understand and apply to the known facts of a given case? Apply what Hillary and Comey did to each statute.


  47. mg says:

    when Texas turns Blue kiss it good bye. Trump will be the last republican president.
    Unless the voter takes over with tar and feathers we will continue to be subjects of the deep state.


  48. iwasthere says:

    Well this is the second time we have seen the ‘laser focus’ trick by DOJ. First Mueller gets to ignore all the collusion by Hillary and now this. Follow the evidence where is leads my foot. Not when you put blinders on from the get go. Because FISA abuse OBVIOUSLY, leads to the illegal operations disclosed in the 99 page FISA order, and goes to MOTIVE as to why FBI was so desperate to get a FISA warrant on Carter Page. That’s just ignoring the giant smelly elephant in the room.


  49. wightmanfarm says:

    Hey, the economy is good ! /s


  50. billybob says:

    I’ve thought for a long long time that the term “ justice system “ is a misnomer and it should be renamed the “Department of Law “ and the “law system “.We have all the evidence that we could possibly want and need to throw the term “ justice “ into the garbage can of obsolete nomenclature


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