Monday August 12th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL. For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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  1. DanDeplorable says:

    DAILY DEVOTIONAL, August 12, 2019


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  2. Lucille says:


    Appalachian Mountains from the Bald Mountain Ridge in Tennessee…

    Bench Cat…

    Ocean Grove Pier, Daniel Falvo, photographer…

    The Taj Mahal, India…

    Florence Joyner Olympiad Park & Garden, Mission Viejo, CA
    Patricia Dickson YouTube Channel


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    • jbt says:

      Very interesting article about her autopsy…
      I do remember an era where milk and cheese were promoted aggressively as the ultimate ‘snack bar’ – quick alternative to a balanced meal. Can you say ‘kidney sttones’?


      • Lucille says:

        Very interesting, indeed! Whatever the cause of death, it was devastation to her husband and daughter and all who loved her.

        Flo Jo was quite an unusual woman who had total recall of her nighttime dreams which occasionally seemed prescient. When their daughter, Mary, was 2 years old, Florence wrote a series of letters to her which were to be read when she was 16. Around that age Mary was having some problems and her father gave her the letters which helped her tremendously. Did God compel Florence to write those letters knowing she wouldn’t be around to guide her daughter? We’ll never know, of course; but I like to think He did.

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    • Lucille says:

      Probably around 1991-2 I got on the elevator at ground floor going to my office and Flo Jo entered behind me. She was likely going to see her lawyer as we knew he had an office in the building. Flo Jo was absolutely exquisite looking, the kind of beauty you don’t see very often and she was smiling, too. Nice memory.

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  3. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    You Can’t Judge a Woman by Her Cover

    “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head…” (I Cor. 11:5).

    If you haven’t seen this in person, you’ve seen it in books or magazines or on television. Based on our text, women of certain religious persuasions wear a distinctive head covering whenever they are out in public, and not just when praying in church. Since the words of our text were penned by our apostle Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles (Rom. 11:13; 15:16), we are often asked if our grace churches should insist that women cover their heads in like manner. Since we believe the answer is no, we need to give a careful look at what the Word of God has to say about this sensitive subject, especially since Paul begins this passage by saying, “Be ye followers of me” (v. 1).

    To begin with, when Paul says that a woman with an uncovered head “dishonoureth her head,” this is a reference to her husband. You see, Paul had just finished reminding the women in the Corinthian church that “the head of the woman is the man” (v. 3). When a woman in Corinth went to church without a head covering, she dishonored her head, i.e., her husband. But why would that be?

    Well, the word cover in Scripture often has the idea of protection. Moses once said of Benjamin:

    “The beloved of the Lord shall dwell in safety by Him; and the Lord shall cover him all the day long” (Deut. 33:12). (The word cover also has the idea of protection in Psalm 91:4 and Psalm 105:39.)

    The word cover is still used to indicate protection in our own day. When a soldier says, “Cover me,” to his fellow, he is asking him to protect him while he attempts to advance on the enemy. In the case of a woman in Paul’s day, a woman’s head covering was a symbol of the protection provided for her by a husband. In essence, her head covering was a sign that she was married. (Today this significance has been lost, and single women wear such coverings as well.) For a married woman to go to church without this symbol dishonored her husband, for it meant that she refused to acknowledge the headship of her husband. It would be like a woman today refusing to wear a wedding ring.

    So why do our grace churches not insist that our grace women cover their heads? We believe this is a cultural issue, and cultural things like this often change over time. In our day, women use different symbols to indicate that they are married. They still take their husband’s name, a tradition that dates back to when God blessed Adam and Eve, “and called their name Adam” (Gen. 5:2). But now, instead of covering their heads, women wear wedding rings to signify that they are married, a symbol that is recognized and understood in most, if not all, cultures around the world.

    But what right do we have to ignore the plain words of our text and adopt this cultural change? Shouldn’t God’s people resist worldly trends and insist upon the plain teachings of His Word? Generally speaking, yes. But let’s consider yet another area where time has introduced yet another cultural change that is almost universally accepted by God’s people. Five times in the Bible we are told to “greet one another with an holy kiss” (Rom. 16:16; I Cor. 16:20; II Cor. 13:12; I Thes. 5:26; I Pet. 5:14), yet this is seldom if ever practiced in our grace churches. While believers in France or Italy or some of those other kissin’ countries might still observe this custom, this cultural symbol of love for one another has long since been replaced here in the United States by the warm handshake, and in more recent years, by the hug.

    But what right did God’s people have to make this change, especially since it was our apostle Paul who issued four of the five commands to greet one another with a kiss? Well, we believe we can point to yet another area where God allows for cultural differences and changes among His people. It lies in the area of church government.

    If you have ever studied the Scriptures looking for instructions as to how to set up the government of a local church, you know that God is very nonspecific in this area, and we believe that this was a purposeful omission on His part. You see, when God’s people were found only in the nation of Israel, He was very specific about how they were to be governed (Deut. 1:13-17). This was because they were one people, with one culture, located in one geographic area of the world. On the other hand, God knew that the Body of Christ would eventually be located throughout the world, encompassing many peoples and cultures. (The word Gentile is a translation of the Greek word ethnos, from which we get our word ethnic. God knew that the Body of Christ would eventually encompass ethnic groups all around the world.) For this reason, He left the description of local church government purposely open-ended, to allow for cultural differences within the Body of Christ.

    For instance, here in corporate America, all of our corporations are governed by a board of directors, in accord with our government’s requirements for incorporation. Because most of our churches are incorporated with the state as non-profit organizations, most of our grace churches are governed by a board of directors. This arrangement has been criticized by some, but we see it as yet another example of how God allows culture to factor into how we live our lives as His children.

    To return to the matter at hand, when cultural symbols change, we must change along with them, or else fail to convey the message we wish to convey. In the 1940’s, to extend two fingers in the air was a symbol that was commonly recognized as a “V” for victory sign. Ever since the 1960’s, however, this symbol has come to stand for peace. If we refuse to recognize this cultural change, we will not be conveying the message we think we are conveying when we extend our two fingers hoping to convey the idea of victory. In the same way, if a woman today were to cover her head but refuse to wear a wedding ring, she would not be effectively conveying the message that God wants her to convey, i.e., that she is married and under the headship of her husband.

    Having said all this, if you live in an area where the women wear head coverings in church, you might want to cover your head when visiting their churches, out of respect for their custom. While Paul made it clear that in such matters “we have no such custom” as believers, “neither the churches of God” (I Cor. 11:16), he advised the women in Corinth to show respect for the local culture in which they found themselves (I Cor. 11:6-13), and we should be quick to do the same. Don’t forget, our text here in I Corinthians 11 comes close on the heels of Paul’s exhortation to be deferential to the personal convictions of others (I Cor. 8:13; 9:20-23; 10:33).

    It has often been said that “you can’t judge a book by its cover,” but people often do, and so we regularly update the covers of our books here at Berean Bible Society in an ongoing effort to “adorn the doctrine of God” found within the pages of our literature (cf. Titus 2:10). In this article, we have attempted to show that you can’t judge a woman by her cover either, or lack thereof, and that’s why we gave that title to this article. But if you live in an area where people do judge you as a woman by your cover, you might want to adopt the attitude that the Apostle Paul expressed when he said:

    “…I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some” (I Cor. 9:22).

    Your respect for the convictions of others just might be the thing that helps you lead a soul to Christ, or welcome a believer into “the fellowship of the Mystery” (Eph. 3:9).

    By Pastor Ricky Kurth

    1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

    Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

    Romans 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

    1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

    1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    Deuteronomy 33:12 And of Benjamin he said, The beloved of the LORD shall dwell in safety by him; and the LORD shall cover him all the day long, and he shall dwell between his shoulders.

    Psalm 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

    Psalm 105:39 He spread a cloud for a covering; and fire to give light in the night.

    Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

    Romans 16:16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.

    1 Corinthians 16:20 All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss.

    2 Corinthians 13:12 Greet one another with an holy kiss.

    1 Thessalonians 5:26 Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

    1 Peter 5:14 Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.

    Deuteronomy 1:13 Take you wise men, and understanding, and known among your tribes, and I will make them rulers over you.
    14 And ye answered me, and said, The thing which thou hast spoken is good for us to do.
    15 So I took the chief of your tribes, wise men, and known, and made them heads over you, captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, and captains over fifties, and captains over tens, and officers among your tribes.
    16 And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.
    17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.

    1 Corinthians 11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

    1 Corinthians 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
    7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
    8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
    9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
    10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
    11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
    12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
    13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?

    1 Corinthians 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

    1 Corinthians 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
    21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
    22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
    23 And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

    1 Corinthians 10:33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

    Titus 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

    1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

    Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

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    • mandy says:

      “St. Paul had said “ought,” not “must.” It was my voluntary obedience, even if I didn’t understand the “why’s.”

      “Was St. Paul saying that the head-covering was an outward sign of my “authority, right, power” as a female child of God, recognized by the angels?”

      “God asks voluntary submission and obedience of His children.”

      “The issue was order, not superiority or inferiority.”

      “Without obedience there is chaos and disorder.”

      “Eve, our first mother, contributed to the fall of man by choosing to disobey. Mary, the mother of our Lord—and of the Church which is His Body—made our salvation possible by obeying God’s will.”

      “A scarf may be a small matter, but obedience often hinges on small things, small choices.”

      “In putting on my head-covering I mean to say to God, “Behold your handmaiden, be it unto me according to Your word—Your will, not mine.””

      Excerpts from:

      I cover. 🙂


  4. Lucille says:

    Michael Yon videos of Hong Kong protests…

    Michael Yon is an American author, independent writer, columnist, war correspondent and photographer.


  5. Garrison Hall says:

    Guitarist and composer Leo Brouwer has composed some wonderfully lyrical pieces for guitar and guitar and orchestra. Una Dia de Noviembre is moody piece that captures perfectly those overcast, grey days when winter cold first let’s us know it has arrived. If you listen for it, you’ll hear a single, delicate harmonic note at the end of the first passage that serves to let us now that a second passage has begun . . .

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  6. Lucille says:

    Armed Customer Stops 7-Eleven Armed Robbers
    Published by the Author on August 11, 2019

    Anti-gun people will often argue that a person who is ambushed by an armed criminal will not be able to effectively defend themselves since the criminal has the element of surprise. As this case shows, armed citizens can and do effectively defend themselves even when caught off guard by a criminal.


  7. nimrodman says:

    Why Can’t We Return To How Peaceful The World Was Before Guns?

    Guns are a plague on mankind. They are the source of all violence in our modern world. Can you imagine how peaceful the world would be if guns didn’t exist? Well, you don’t have to imagine. There was such a time; it’s called our distant past.

    In the long, long ago, people lived in harmony. They had no choice but to, as they had nothing to shoot each other with. Theoretically, they had bows and arrows, but if you’ve ever actually tried to use one, they’re basically impossible to hit anything with.

    So if they had a problem, they just talked things out. If things got really heated, they’d settle things with a riddle competition.

    And men were respectful to women, as there were no guns to enhance toxic masculinity.

    … continues at online article

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    • old45model says:

      Golly gee whiz – someone has been smoking the happy baccy.

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    • TreeClimber says:

      Just so we’re all aware, Babylon Bee is a satire site.

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    • Pale rider says:

      He is joking, making fun of gun grabbing logic.

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    • Daniel says:

      Uhm. There were epic wars before guns. There were people called “war lords” with gangs armed with clubs, spears, knives, swords and arrows. They used fire and other things as well.

      The unbelievable “peace before guns” is absurd.

      The gun has done more to bring peace than any other weapon. It has brought strength and power to the weak and otherwise defenseless. Before the gun, the problem was “big strong and brutal gangs of men” where the only effective counter was “more big strong and brutal men” on your side.

      It’s like whoever wrote that completely ignores mountains of historical documented human history.

      And let’s not candy coat this. The murders were far more up close and personal. It was far more personal in the sense that most of the killing was done face to face. One saw the face and heard the sounds of the people they were killing. It wasn’t 1000 yard sniper shots or even 100 yards away. It was “hand to hand.”

      I’m trying not to get too graphic here. This guy is an absolute idiot.

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  8. duchess01 says:

    Jesus Loves Babies…Pray for the Unborn

    Jesus Loves the Little Children…Pray for the Little Children

    Jesus Loves You…Come to Him

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  9. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.”
    Psalms 23:4 (KJV)

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  10. Dora says:

    “Rockaway Beach,” 1901, by American-born Alfred Henry Maurer, who spent much of his life painting in Paris.

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  11. nwtex says:

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  12. nwtex says:

    hahahaha ❤ ❤

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  13. Dora says:

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  14. Dora says:

    Last night “60 Minutes” had a segment about Ms. Deutscher. She is an amazing child.

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  15. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  16. just stevie says:


    “Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith?” Matthew viii. 26

    When we are in fear we can do nothing less than pray to God, but Our Lord has a right to expect that those who name His Name should have an understanding confidence in Him. God expects His children to be so confident in Him that in any crisis they are the reliable ones. Our trust is in God up to a certain point, then we go back to the elementary panic prayers of those who do not know God. We get to our wits’ end, showing that we have not the slightest confidence in Him and His government of the world; He seems to be asleep, and we see nothing but breakers ahead.

    “O ye of little faith!” What a pang must have shot through the disciples – ‘Missed it again!’ And what a pang will go through us when we suddenly realize that we might have produced downright joy in the heart of Jesus by remaining absolutely confident in Him, no matter what was ahead.

    There are stages in life when there is no storm, no crisis, when we do our human best; it is when a crisis arises that we instantly reveal upon who we rely. If we have been learning to worship God and to trust Him, the crisis will reveal that we will go to the breaking point and not break in our confidence in Him.

    We have been talking a great deal about sanctification – what is it all going to amount to? It should work out into rest in God which means oneness with God, a oneness which will make us not only blameless in His sight, but a deep joy to Him.

    Oswald Chambers
    August 12th Devotional

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  19. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on Gideon’s miraculous victory over the Midianites (Judges 7):

    1. How Gideon chose 32,000 soldiers and set out against Midian.

    2. How the Lord directed him to lessen this number, lest the Israelites vaunt themselves, saying that it was their victory rather than God’s.

    3. How Gideon took only three hundred soldiers and overcame the Midianites, who were like grasshoppers for multitude.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau) for today – July 30th – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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  20. Sepp says:

    Holy Apostles Silas, Silouan, Crescens, Epenetós, and Andrónicos of the Seventy

    These disciples of our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ are commemorated today – July 30th – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

    Short versions of their lives are included in the link below, which is to a page for January 4th and the Synaxis of the Seventy. Each of the Seventy are commemorated on that day even though most are honored individually or in groups throughout the Church year.

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  21. Dora says:

    What could she have been thinking?


  22. CrewDog says:

    Here It Is… Complete List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously or Committed Suicide Before Testimony, Including Jeffrey Epstein

    I’m slightly younger than Billary and as I reflect over those years .. untimely/early deaths … I’ve lost three friends to aircraft crashes, one to a snowmobile accident, one each to cancer, heart attack and drugs/alcohol, one HS friend in a tractor roll-over, a young Alert Force Airman and cousin to suicide. I’m sure I may have missed someone along the line but I’ve served in a bunch of units, organizations and places and I simply can’t recall any other untimely deaths and none that involved suspicious circumstances.
    This list is not new to most here I expect but if Epstein & Friends manage to evade Exposure/Justice and the Perps that orchestrated the Election Rig and Follow-On likewise escape …… and Trump caves to some Phony Gun Control (let’s disarm Red State Crackers) Legislation… it’s FINIS USA ;-(

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    • Pale rider says:

      We don’t mourn Epstein’s death, we mourn his life and all the harm he did. We also seek justice on the criminals Clinton, and maybe Epstein still.
      May God reveal the truth in this matter and justice be administered before all the world.


  23. gda53 says:

    Highly recommend this article on the failure of Conservatives to deal with Identity Politics.

    This ties in with (liberal!) Jonathan Haidt’s analysis.

    In essence he has found that Leftists value harm reduction over all other values. In fact, it is their only value. They see the world in black and white. Conservatives have five values. They see the world in full colour.

    The people of the left underpin their politics with moral concerns about harm and fairness; they are driven by the imperative to help the vulnerable and see justice done.

    Conservatives and people of the right value these things as well, but have several additional moral touchstones — loyalty, respect and sanctity. They value in-group solidarity, deference to authority, and the protection of purity in mind and body.

    To liberals, those sincerely held values can look a lot like, in Dr. Haidt’s words, “xenophobia, authoritarianism and Puritanism.”

    This asymmetry is the fountainhead of mutual incomprehension and disdain.

    Easy to see how leftists have gone down the violence-prone, dead-end street of identity politics, is it not?

    Whether you call all it Communism, progressivism or identity politics – it’s all rooted in a lie – that we can perfect the human race; that the “blank slate” is real; that people who disagree with them are evil. As the article muses, these people would have us live without our (admittedly flawed) families and traditions, and thus be, in Aristotle’s words “either a beast or a god”.

    Stand up and shout – this cannot stand.

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  24. SwampRatTerrier says:

    Michelle Obama to Release YouTube Series to Help Prepare Students for College


  25. SwampRatTerrier says:

    Why College Degrees are Becoming Useless | Prof. Timothy Terrell


  26. SwampRatTerrier says:

    Spygate Indictments Coming, Says Former Intelligence Operative Tony Shaffer

    American Thought Leaders – The Epoch Times
    Premiered Aug 10, 2019


  27. Troublemaker10 says:

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  28. In regard to the conflicting stories whether or not impeachment proceedings have officially started, I believe Nadler has pushed Pelosi into another corner she can’t escape from…..just like AOC and The Squad did. Unless she lays the law down, her effectiveness as SOH is over. If fact, they might have already rendered her useless.


  29. Lucille says:

    Seems all they care about is getting the money…who would have thought!…

    Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinic Hides Teen Girl’s Threat to Kill Herself From Her Parents
    by Cheryl Sullenger – August 12, 2019 | 4:27PM Aurora, Illinois


  30. Lucille says:


    1870 F. L. Stuber stereograph of “The Young Housekeeper–Washing Day” from the GEMS OF AMERICAN LIFE collection…

    September 1938 – “Farm Wife Washing Clothes, Lake Dick Project, Arkansas” – 35mm negative by Russell Lee, Farm Security Administration….

    Farm woman washing clothes in her motor-driven washing machine. Near Lincoln, Vermont – July, 1940 – Photographer: Louise Rosskam – FSA…

    Woman washing her clothes on her farm at El Indio, Texas – March1938 – Photographer: Russell Lee – FSA…

    Onoway Museum Collection, Alberta, Canada…

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  31. nwtex says:

    There’s a video —->

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  32. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  33. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  34. nwtex says:

    Waaaay too much coverage for waaaay too many years of these “events”.
    It’s a no thinker as to why some unstable types have a desire to emulate others.

    Take a breath you salivating, gun confiscating, lefty commie loons—– NO GUN involved.


  35. redline says:

    just a test ©


  36. SKYJACKER says:

    Wondering how long this has been going on…


  37. SKYJACKER says:



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