Joe diGenova has a great deal of confidence in AG William Barr. After the interview last night (w/ Hannity) where President Trump outlined the lack of investigative information from the DOJ and FBI to the executive office of the president, I’m not sure that confidence is deserved.
In this interview with Lou Dobbs, diGenova and Victoria Toensing discuss the currently suppressed Rosenstein scope memos issued to allow Weissmann and Mueller to expand their targeting of Trump; while simultaneously retaining optimism toward Bill Barr.
Additionally, both Toensing and diGenova discuss presidential candidate Joe Biden.
It could be possible that AG Bill Barr is keeping President Trump in the dark in order to (1) protect the office of the President, considering that President Trump was the target of a seditious plot to overthrow his administration…
However, it could also be possible that AG Bill Barr is using the concentric circles of protection around the office of the President for the reverse purpose…. (2) To protect the DOJ and FBI as institutions from the power of the executive office.
The #1 option is the optimistic outlook which requires all Trump supporters to have “hope” and “trust” in the Attorney General. The #2 option is professionally cynical, and contains the most currently visible evidence; and could explain why Barr wanted to neuter the risk of President Trump declassifying information by taking institutional control of it.
Honorable Barr, or Bondo Barr?… you decide.
Can’t Trump still declassify the documents? Or has he given away his Presidential powers to Barr? It seems to me that if things keep dragging out with no indictments, no justice, POTUS can retake his authority from Barr.
I really am stunned that there are people here who actually think Trump would care about protecting the institutions that screwed him over for two years. (Or maybe they are trolls?)
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I think that you are correct. POTUS can still do as he wishes. At any time, POTUS can read any classified document to the public – it is not legally possible for him to illegally disclose classified info. That is, the act of his disclosing any confidential info is, in itself, declassification.
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But he is not going to do that – ever. While he of course singularly possesses the sovereign power to declassify anything, he delegated that power in a very specific way to the individual who now serves as the chief law-enforcement officer of the United States. Particularly because he is the subject of the investigation, he will never exercise this power himself.
Furthermore, declassification and public disclosure are two entirely different things. Declassification lets Barr put information in front of a Grand Jury. It is entirely a different matter to release information to the general public, and if so, when. He’s thinking about constructing legal cases that can’t be beaten. After the indictments have been released – they alone are public – supporting declassified information might be released, and if so are likely to still be redacted.
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P.S. It is also possible that instead the classified material will be presented to the Jury under court seal, preventing its disclosure to the general public until – maybe – after the trial is over. This would further reduce the claim of “trial by the court of public opinion.” These defendants are going to have the best attorneys that money can buy, and there is a lot that a good attorney can do to weasel-out of a charge.
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Trump is not the subject of an investigation. He can declassify anything he wants, and if one of his subordinates in the executive branch disobeys his orders or obstructs him, he can fire them, including Barr, who has been on the job for almost half a year.
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Trump and his close-circle of advisors have to be evaluating just how much of an actual threat his possible impeachment poses to his reelection prospects for 2020.
If the threat of impeachment doesn’t pose that much of a problem for his reelection prospects, Trump can afford to move slowly on the public release of declassified Spygate material.
Moving slowly and deliberately, if it results in tight legal cases against the Spygate perps, might give him additional leverage over Democrats and the Deep State in his second term.
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The threat of impeachment was enough to give the House to the Democrats, and now Trump is on the ballot. He is getting bad advice, if he thinks he can ignore the ongoing campaign to remove him from office.
It looks bad when you have to fire pollsters for leaking bad results to the public, too, and isn’t polling the domain of Kellyann Conway, who’s husband is constantly trashing the President?
Iran doesn’t take him seriously. Neither does Russia or China, because his own administration doesn’t. He’s supposed to hire only the best, then these people are penning anonymous op eds, their family disrespects him, they disobey and ignore him. Have you seen any other administration behave this way? Trump ordered declassification in September 2018, almost a year ago now. Then he ordered it again recently. Still nothing.
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You are clearly lost in ‘left’ field.
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He gave the power to Barr. He’s not going to do it himself. I explained in an earlier post somewhere that Barr knows what to do and when to do it. He’s been AG before, he’s seen a 1 term President that he served get horsecollared by the Clintons and he understands both politics and the law. And he is incorruptible. But understand, it’s going to be a political outcome, not a criminal outcome; there are no mass arrests or Guantanamo fantasies, John Brennan isn’t going to jail, nothing like that, but there will be some outcome or report that will be publicized and likely somewhat effective for the next election. Trump will win or lose based on peace in North Korea, trade agreements with China, employments rates, stock market levels, wage gains, at least a decent plan on health care, and all that important stuff, not “Spygate”
No offense to CTH, who does great research on a very interesting issue.
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You’re right, John Brennan isn’t going to jail. He’s going to be blindfolded, stood up against a wall of sandbags and shot for treason alongside Obama, Jarrett, Clinton, Clapper, Comey, Holder, Lynch, et al.
You might want to pick up a book and read about the history of the people of the United States of America and how we react to tyrants…you little troll punk.
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John Brennan isn’t going to jail. He’s going to be blindfolded, stood up against a wall of sandbags and shot for treason alongside Obama, Jarrett, Clinton, Clapper, Comey, Holder, Lynch, et al.
Not a snowballs chance in hell this will happen….
unless your fantasy includes you kidnapping them and doing it yourself.
The US has executed a couple dozen people in it’s history for treason and the last one was in the 40’s or 50’s.
Time to put down the whiskey and bong.
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Crawl back into your cave of normalcy bias. Six hundred thousand died for treason in the Civil War. The Ulster Plantation; thousands died within 24 hrs “it was brought upon us within a single day.” Americans can break bad and go full berserker without notice and we are on that cusp. Again, pick up a history book and read about the character of the American People when confronted with tyranny…you are another little Marxist troll punk.
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Well we certainly are aware of at least one American that is on the cusp of “full berserker”
As to my picking up a “history book”, I’ve written about that extensively on this blog.
What you are advocating (and in fact encouraging) is a “last result”.
Unless you are ready to forego niceties like
electricity, food and water…..
(and your ESP-like offensives on “Marxist Troll Punks” on a website)
and replace them with piles of
shit, disease, and death.
And maybe you are.
But If you think it would take “a single day” you are also sadly mistaken.
Hell in the bloody aftermath of “breaking bad” we may all end up speaking Chinese.
(Oh and I was talking about the 1950’s NOT the 1650s but we Irish do like our whiskey)
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Well as a fellow Scotts-Irish I offer you a punch in the mouth, some good whiskey and a discussion.
I have lived out of a rucksack on the ridgelines of Afghanistan and bathed in the rivers and foraged for whatever food, ammo or weapons we could find for months on end. I was there long before there were any FOBs. And I fought in the last two wars in Iraq. I know full well what is coming. I thrive in that environment.
You explain to me how we CANNOT afford to round up and execute or at least imprison these people for life. Its a zero sum game. If a Democrat ever becomes president again these people will be recycled right back into the government. Strok would be the FBI Director and Page would be the Attorney General. I kid…only slightly.
You’re only answer seems to be surrender because you don’t want to forego electricity, food and water or experience shit, disease and death. I’ve experienced all of the above and will gladly do so indefinitely rather than doom my children to Marxist slavery.
If Barr and Durham prove to be frauds and the Deep State continues to subvert my duly elected President then my answer is war. I think President Trump may be forced to call for it.
So what is your solution? You sit there and snark at the idea of killing these traitors. I wonder. Do you have children? Have you ever killed a man for the United States of America and cashed the check that the US government paid you to do it? These domestic traitors are a greater threat to my Country, my freedom and my family than any of the men that I ever killed in Afghanistan or Iraq.
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My solution:
last resort
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Actually you deserve a better answer having served where I did not.
(Will take your punch with honor and then share whiskey)
Share anger as well
No smirks. Have children.
Student of history….actually heavily recruited to pursue that path.
Chose another
It’s that study of history that makes me take pause with much of the rhetoric written here.
Executions, GITMO, tribunals, etc.
History tells that those are methods best left as last resort.
Ask Robespierre……his Reign of Terror ended……with his own head lopped off.
Also opened the door to a megalomaniacal dictator who decided he wanted to rule the world (The world, not surprisingly, disagreed)
Ushering in the fall of a once powerful nation……relegating them to a doormat for two world wars.
Fully half of the country hasn’t got a clue as to what’s gone on…..
They’d be a bit perplexed by martial law and the sudden razing of the DoJ and FBI.
(Not to mention Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama shot by firing squad)
600K died the last civil war….they were wearing BLUE and GRAY (mostly) and only fought weather permitting.
The next one……not so crystal clear.
Especially with the tenuous interconnected infrastructure we have today (a jenga tower that collapses easily)
And closer then ever overseas enemies that could exploit that chaos.
Unintended consequences.
All I’m sayin is let’s see what Barr does.
My knife is sharp….and my powder is dry.
In case I need it.
(But I am short on the whiskey….should prolly stock up on that. i’ll share)
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Mate…we are not Robespierre! We are Robert Rogers. We are William Wallace. We are the Picts who decimated the 9th Roman Legion when they dared to venture North beyond Hadrian’s Wall. We are the only people in the world who have never been conquered and never been ruled. We are the Scotts-Irish.
The Anglo-Saxons shipped us over here because they were getting their asses kicked by the French and Indians. They promised us free land in the Shenandoah Valley. Didn’t tell us about the war. No Matter, we crushed the French and Indians and surged West. We founded this Country.
No punch in the face. Just some good whiskey. Let’s figure out how to fix this Country for our children!
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In defense of Barr, if he is truly engaged in the prosecution of these Deep State traitors then he is legally prohibited from revealing this classified information to the public because it comprises evidence in an ongoing criminal matter.
On the other hand if Barr simply proves to be another stooge protecting the Deep State Trump can always declassify everything, feed it to the American people and expose Barr and Horowitz as traitors.
Trump truly is a genius. By dropping the discretion of de-classification into Barr’s lap he is forcing Barr to do his job. I hope Barr is a good guy and is doing the right thing of his own accord.
No Matter. Trump holds all the cards and has all of the leverage in this situation. If Barr and Horowitz prove to be corrupt they will be crushed and replaced.
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RLTW, Will you let a low lander (Scott royals and limmies ran Great Grandpa x 4 out of Scotland for choosing the wrong side during the Bonnie Prince Charles fiasco. He too stopped in Ireland and met up with Grandma before heading to the colonies and getting in on kicking the red coats all the way back across the Atlantic.) and an ex-cav trooper with two tours in the Nam serve on your left flank? Have already provided our CINC a complete plan to clean the swamp and start over with staffing the peoples’ new government. Would volunteer for point, but my 76 year old boots may be a little slow for you younger guys! So damn glad to hear that a fellow Scott recognizes that we for the first time in history have a true ‘Battle Captain’ serving as our CINC! All I am waiting for is his call and a few guys like you that are wiling to do more than shoot their mouths off!
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No need to engage old Soldier. Stand back and watch. Damn near every veteran from JSOC and CJSOTF over the last 20 years of war is Scotts-Irish. There are Echelons of pissed-off Special Operations Scotts-Irish war veterans who are fed up.
Trump is Scotts-Irish. Barr is Scotts-Irish (he’s a bag-piper). We founded this Country. And we are taking ownership.
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This thing is hugely complex and Barr wants to make sure he gets it right is my take. I trust Hannity that it is coming. Timing may be involved too.
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I never underestimate the need to confuse and not disclose too much of how our side is thinking to the media.
If they think that BArr might be on their side he gets more leeway and more inroads into the swamp.
The death threats and the enemies he has made of former allies is a bit out of character for those who are obliging the swamp. His behavior does not match Rosenstein or Sessions and especially how he behaved when he was being grilled by the representatives was highly brave for an intelligence goon.
If he is on their side he is behaving very differently from those previous.
What we are attempting here, the retrieval of our nation from virtually the entire world’s clutches, is unprecedented and the navigation of it is bound to be precarious and cause for nail biting.
However, attributing to Trump a naivete is not, I think, the wisest course given that I don’t believe he has been languishing as he takes this speed lesson in understanding the swamp. He absorbs, he learns and he adjusts.
Should Barr prove unfit I doubt that Trump has exhausted all of his avenues and even now has a parallel investigation going on that is monitoring.
Even as TRump the citizen his ability to investigate was tremendous. Despite the figurative handcuffs that he is dealing with he still has yet more power as president to pursue the mission.
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This thing is hugely complex and Barr wants to make sure he gets it right is my take. I trust Hannity that it is coming. Timing may be involved too.
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This thing is hugely complex and Barr wants to make sure he gets it right is my take. I trust Hannity that it is coming. Timing may be involved too.
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Keep Rod close, comfortable, make him feel that everything’s A-OK before the Hammer drops.
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I agree. Making enemies closes doors. You embed in enemy camps in order to figure out the vulnerable areas.
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Rosenstein standing next to Barr as he intoned his AND ROSENSTEIN’S opinions that Trump has been found ‘not guilty’ in Mueller’s summary of the results of his two year + multi million dollar investigation looked like my German Shepherd, ‘Dutch’, after I caught him in the chicken house.
I’m thinking that the now stone quiet Roddy boy was and is desperately seeking some gold stars to aid in mitigating punishment for HIS part in the Russian Hoax promulgated to ruin the sitting president. Who knows? To save his tiny shiny butt he might even take Mueller down. Now THAT would be a hoot and a half.
This might all be a bunch of smoke OR, possibly the greatest scandal in all human history.
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His part was monumental. He is the one who set the entire coverup into operation and literally took at least 3 years of Trumps term from the people and stole a midterm election. He shouldn’t be able to just walk away from that even if he spilled the entire beans.
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I am the “Original” Mr. T. here. Just needed to post that so people aren’t confused.
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Because any of us can tell the difference? It appears one can mimic anyone just by typing that in the name field when commenting.
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I think it’s fair to say Barr/Durham better have done something VISIBLE by Labor Day – just over 2 months now – and a full YEAR after Trump first DEMANDED DECLASSIFICATION of a bunch of things (September 2018).
If there’s nothing by Labor Day consider me to have LOST CONFIDENCE in Barr/Durham.
The only counter to that is Assange is due to face extradition hearings in February 2020. So if everything somehow hinges on Assange this will definitely drag out well into 2020…
Speaking of which: Roger Stone should call a bunch of folks as witnesses for the defence.
Julian Assange
Craig Murray
Wikileaks (In general)
Debbie Wasserman Schulz
Steve Wasserman
Donna Brazile
John Podesta
Tony Podesta
Awan Brothers
Who else?
Who can confirm a DNC Leak to Wikileaks by Seth Rich and who has questions to answer?
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Barr’s investigation is far reaching. Not only to those in DC. UK intelligence agencies one of which Gina Haspel lead (CIA Dir UK). Australian intelligence agencies and Alexander Downer. The pipelines in the middle east and PappD who was advocating for Israels gas pipeline (https://quodverum.com/2019/06/171/man-in-the-middle-the-importance-of-george-papadopoulos.html) VP Pence/IMF with Ecuador and the corrupt ousting of Assange to silence journos/publishers. Barr is treading carefully but this is a complex issue that takes time to get right. The lying Pompeo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OifY3sqrmXQ) and warmonger Bolton all factor indirectly into this investigation. Whisky Tango Foxtrot….
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The actually written scope memo’s are not the real meat of the conspiracy enabled by Rosenstein. It is all the UNDOCUMENTED “Secret Verbal” orders exposed by Mueller in his counter brief in response to Manafort challenges to the authority of the SC. Recall, Mueller specifically stated he had received both “written and verbal secret” instruction from Rosenstein. The verbal orders are the ones that need to be exposed. Dirty cops, like Rosenstein and Mueller, are so stupid as to document the real dirt. I suspect one of the major reasons “things are not adding up” for AG Barr, with respect to the SC’s work vs written orders as well as evidence, is all the secret verbal communications that is NOT DOCUMENTED.
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OSC had to testify in federal court during the Manafort trial what was the scope of their investigation. Trump’s legal team was smart in that regard, using the discovery process to learn what Mueller was up to. Legally, Trump outsmarted the Deep State. However, he could have avoided the whole thing by firing every Obama holdover and going after Hillary when he took office.
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If AG Barr is not 100 % transparent the doj and fbi will be labeled as crooked forever. Our nation’s laws must be applied equally to all including past presidentsl and especially to those in powerful government positions that have the power to destroy people. I have stopped donating political funds until there is hard evidence and results of the laws being applied equally to all.
I served 30 plus years in the Navy and 20 plus years in aerospace was exposed to compartmented (scif) government secrets. I would be in Leavenworth if I did what hr clinton did. She must be properly investigated and properly and correctly processed according to the relevant results. Christopher wray is not doing an honest job as director of the FBI. He should be fired. It appears he is trying to protect the FBI from its previous leaders alleged crimes.
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While I am completely out of patience and angered as to why it should take over 3/4’s of a Presidents term to get to the bottom of what appears to be nefarious activity by the deep state, the Democrat party, and their media acolytes, I also realize that their conspiracy included a cover up which was largely accomplished by the Muller investigation.
Bad actors used the investigation as cover so they did not have to “testify” about their activities. That certainly delayed justice and the people who participated in that coverup should also be held accountable. The Muller hoax is now over and full accountability should begin immediately without any more unnecessary delay.
It is not right that the people duly elected an eligible President and bad people undermined that with false accusations and fake investigations that still continue. They also used this false information to impact and conceivably steal a midterm election. We MUST have accountability and that means jail. Nothing less will be acceptable.
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As I posted previously, I am the “Original” Mr. T. here, NOT you. Suggest you change your user name and stop cloning mine.
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What can we say? Sessions was a horrid choice for AG. Who knew it was going to be like that?
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I’m hoping for the positive. I’ll briefly touch on a few supporting facts. I’ll try not to rehash old ground.
1. Barr hired Durham, established pit bull.
Hartford Curant: “Durham is said by associates to have been at work as early as early last summer [2018] and was recruiting investigators months before Barr became Attorney General in January.”
Which means investigators were coming on board at least the beginning of November, 2018.
2. Tiger Federal Prosecutor hired from outside DC.
“Former federal prosecutor Nora R. Dannehy agreed to join Durham two months ago [March 2019], associates of both said. Before leaving the justice department for United Technologies Corp., Dannehy prosecuted complex political corruption, including cases resulting in the convictions of former Connecticut Gov. John G. Rowland and former state Treasurer Paul Silvester.”
3. Barr interview in Central America. The pieces aren’t fitting together; things don’t jive; I have more unanswered questions today than when I started.
4. Barr: the Clinton Foundation and server investigations close to “fruition”. Would he use the word fruition if nothing was there? [PA Cody Hiland assigned 18 months ago in Arkansas; a rumored GJ a year ago.]
5. An early interview stated he was looking into things; recent written reply to Nadler said the “Review” had expanded, is multi pronged, includes foreign actors and private individuals.
6. Congressman Mark Meadows says new Whistleblowers are coming forward bc of Barr and Durham.
7. State Dept exculpatory memo surfaces; UK CYA post-election Steele untrustworthy memo sent to multiple individuals and departments (State, DOJ?) exposed; but still missing. [New Whistleblower?]
8. Paul Sperry claims top CIA official cooperating. Gina Haspel?
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Paul Sperry seems to say anything.
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True masters of deception are impossible to read.
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AG Barr must be 100% transparent or the doj and FBI will be tainted forever. Even the current director is not holding up his end of the deal. Looks like he is trying to hide what they did instead of cleaning out the problem. I spent 30 plus year in the Navy and 20 plus years in aerospace where I was allowed access to top secret scif kind of classified material. If I did what he Clinton did I would be in leavenworth. She must be properly investigated and punished If appropriate. Same with brennan Clapper strzok McCabe page Obama rice comey et al.
I quit donating political funds until there is hard evidence that all these people have been properly and correctly addressed
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AG Barr must be 100% transparent or the doj and FBI will be tainted forever. Even the current director is not holding up his end of the deal. Looks like he is trying to hide what they did instead of cleaning out the problem. I spent 30 plus year in the Navy and 20 plus years in aerospace where I was allowed access to top secret scif kind of classified material. If I did what he Clinton did I would be in leavenworth. She must be properly investigated and punished If appropriate. Same with brennan Clapper strzok McCabe page Obama rice comey et al.
I quit donating political funds until there is hard evidence that all these people have been properly and correctly addressed
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In order for President Trump to release the documents, he has to have access to them. Just like President Trump ordered Brennan’s security clearance to be revoked and it didn’t happen, could he somehow be prevented from having access to them?
Much as I want to think Barr is there to do the right thing, and he certainly gives that appearance in every way so far, time is slipping away and we have so very much at stake. We don’t have time for another Boyscout Comey or Mr Integrity Mueller.
There is a huge risk in putting all our faith in Barr when there’s even a remote possibility that his real job is to appear to be on our side while he placates and delays until the election is lost and everything goes back into the hands of the Brennan’s, Clappers and Clintons of the world. Are we like the abused woman who keeps thinking her abuser ‘really means in this time’?
We can’t underestimate what we stand to lose, and we need to contemplate what we will do if-tomorrow-never-comes.
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