Insufferable Media – War Advocate, CBS Margaret Brennan, Frames Brett McGurk Exit For Political Fodder….

CTH readers will know Brett McGurk; he is the departing U.S. state department envoy in-charge of the U.S./State Dept./Coalition de-ISIS campaign.  We have discussed his presentations at great length [See Here in 2017].

McGurk was scheduled to exit the State Department in less than two months (Feb ’19); as the 27-nation coalition “de-ISIS operation” is now complete, and has shifted into maintenance mode.  However, McGurk has announced he is resigning at the end of this year.  CBS takes this as an opportunity to present a political hit-job against President Trump’s decision to remove U.S. troops from Syria and allow regional allies to take over.

(Via CBS) […] Brett McGurk, special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS, had been planning to exit his post in February 2019. But sources tell CBS News that he informed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that he will accelerate his departure due to a strong disagreement with President Trump’s snap decision to withdraw 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria, effectively abandoning U.S. allies in the region.

McGurk submitted his resignation on Friday, just one day after Defense Secretary James Mattis quit his post citing fundamental disagreements with the commander-in-chief — including one over the importance of honoring U.S. alliances.

The special envoy was publicly left in the lurch by the president’s sudden declaration on Wednesday that he was pulling U.S. forces out of Syria, against the advice of his top national security advisers and without consulting U.S. allies.

As leader of the counter ISIS mission, McGurk had been in the region to meet with coalition partners including Kurdish leader Masoud Barzani last week when Mr. Trump made his sudden decision to pull U.S. support. According to Barzani’s office, he had raised concern about the fate of Kurds in Syria including the Kurdish-led group of fighters known as the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). They have been the ground troops in the fight against ISIS and receive help from U.S. advisers, weapons and air strikes.  (read more)

So McGurk leaving now is horrible; bad Trump…. but McGurk leaving as scheduled a month from now was, well, okay or something?

See the insufferable nonsense?

The bottom-line is ISIS in Syria has been defeated; that was our purpose for being there. The current issues and arguments surround who should stay in the region as part of the “maintenance” operation.

President Trump has made the decision to allow the regional allies, closest to the actual conflict, to take charge of the maintenance operation.  As noted, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates will be the primary regional team supporting coalition forces and ensuring the safety of Kurdish allies. The DC machine wants the U.S. military to remain in Syria indefinitely to control maintenance operations.

The de-ISIS campaign has been successful. The policy argument surrounds: who should remain in Syria to maintain the status-quo?

CBS obviously has an agenda to sell via narrative engineer Margaret Brennan.

It should be noted that Brett McGurk was also the envoy used by President Obama in 2016 for secret negotiations (pallets of cash) with the Iranians.

I would not be surprised to see deep state actors within the United States CIA and State Department begin covert black-op missions to attack the Kurds, as an excuse to force U.S. re-engagement.  Watch for it in 3,.. 2,…

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177 Responses to Insufferable Media – War Advocate, CBS Margaret Brennan, Frames Brett McGurk Exit For Political Fodder….

  1. starfcker says:

    Is it just me, or does anybody else think President Trump is just getting started?

    Liked by 33 people

    • starfcker says:

      It’s looking more and more like he came into office, and had these people explain to him the mission and a timeline. Timelines up. They can’t believe they can’t keep endless war endless.

      Liked by 15 people

      • chipin8511 says:

        I read Saudi is sending in troops MBS . To replace ours

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        • Firefly says:

          No wonder the deep state wants MBS replaced with their pick. MBS can tattle tale/complain to PTrump what’s going on with the Kurds. So can Erdogan.

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        • JohninMK says:

          As I mentioned in the other thread, linked by All too Much below, the Saudi/UAE troop movement are not in response to Trump’s Syria decision. The article linked by Sundance was a month old and was about Saudi troops that had already arrived. This was a deployment initially agreed in May 2018 which took a few months logistically to deploy, given those countries prior commitments in Yemen.

          The Saudi Government has apparently denied it as well.

          The US troops are either going to be replaced by the Syrian Arab Army or the Turkish Army. The SDF Kurds are currently in negotiations with the Syrian Government, with an agreement seemingly already made for the areas held by the SDF west of the Euphrates.

          The Trump move was very clever, it will be interesting to see how the dice fall now.

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        • mugzey302 says:

          Hopefully someone has told the Kurds … ?

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          • JohninMK says:

            Yes, it seems that US Special Forces were delegated with that task and they did not enjoy delivering that message. A real nasty surprise, although it should not have been as the Kurds were/are on borrowed time. They should have noted what had happened to their namesakes in Iraq and that the US would never have backed them against Turkey.

            Now they have a simple solution in their hands, Assad has offered them protection and a place in the Syrian Arab Army and the Turkish FM has confirmed that Turkey will OK that. The alternative is the Turkish Army rolling over them.

            When thinking about this situation remember that the Kurds were originally in the far NW of Syria (ousted by Turkey this year) and the far NE of Syria. Syria either side of the Euphrates is basically Arab. The Kurds were only able to take it over after ISIS took it and the SDF became US proxy troops against ISIS. They don’t belong there and will, either way, be sent home to the NE corner.

            Many of us here are Christians, at this time of year we should rejoice that Syria is getting its country back as, for all its other faults, and unlike any other regime in the ME we Christians are not persecuted there.

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      • Bigbadmike says:

        “War is Hell!, And there is no refining it.

        William Tecumseh Sherman

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      • munchenfez says:

        Forgive me stating it, but isn’t perpetual war part of the recipe required according to Mr Orwell.

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        • RLTW says:

          You’re damn right it is. There has been a universally recognized military truth for thousands of years. There must be a de-mobilization plan for a conquered professional military. They will not voluntarily retrain themselves to be farmers and carpenters once disbanded. They will become a rogue military force. This is a certainty. This is why Alexander gave conquered armies two choices; pledge fealty to Alexander or be put to the sword. This is why, when a Japanese Emperor was conquered, his Samurai were declared Ronin and were required to commit Seppuku.

          Where did ISIS come from? Sadam Hussein’s Sunni military was the third largest military in the world. It always served as a bulwark against the Shia Iran being able to surge West unimpeded in order to wage war against our allies in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Our Generals disbanded this army with no demobilization plan (de-Bathification). Sadam’s professional military predictably fled West and morphed into ISIS.

          Are our Generals stupid? Are they ignorant of military truths that have been universally recognized for thousands of years? I have an Army FM sitting in my closet that was issued to me during the SFQC which outlines the required demobilization process. It’s obviously US military doctrine. Are our Generals ignorant of doctrine that was taught to me at the operational level? Apparently our Generals don’t know US military doctrine. But they do. Our Generals aren’t stupid. They are corrupt and treasonous.

          Same thing happened in Afghanistan. The noble Mujahedeen who were organized, equipped and trained by CIA and USSF in conjunction with Pakistani ISI to fight the Soviets were not demobilized after the war was won. What did the Mujahedeen morph into? The Taliban.

          Our own government has created all of these current enemies. And it’s not because our Generals, DOD, DOJ, DOS and intelligence agencies are stupid.

          Call it the Deep State, The Swamp, the Administrative State. Whatever. They must continually have an enemy to wage war against. Whether it’s the war against drugs where they convince citizens to forfeit their property rights in favor of “protecting the American people from drug cartels” via asset forfeiture laws. Or the war on terror where we allow illegal un-Constitutional secret FISA courts and permit every American man, woman and child citizen to be illegally surveilled. Or the creation of the TSA. Or the creation of DHS etc.

          Trillions have been allocated to the Deep State based upon fear stoked by the Deep State. Our Constitutional rights have been systematically trashed based upon fear stoked by the Deep State.

          War is the lifeblood of the Deep State. This is why they are freaking out over the Wall. This is why they are freaking out over Trump withdrawing from the Iran Nuclear deal and pulling out of Syria and Afghanistan. The last thing they want is for the drug cartels to be shut down. The last thing they want is for the number one state sponsor of terror, Iran, to be hamstrung. Without these fabricated enemies their business model is dead. Their means of stripping our liberties is dead.

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    • jmuniz1 says:

      It not just you its me too.

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    • frances says:

      I agree, it’s time to fire up the 2020 campaign and promises made look to become promises kept.

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    • Bob says:

      This guy should have been shit canned on Jan 21, 2016…hope PT starts cleaning house of these Obama plants.

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    • sundance says:

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    • Michael Todaro says:

      Yes Starfcker. I agree. POTUS DJT is indeed just getting started. Think of it as PDJT has just been playing with his food, Mueller twisting in the wind, and “The Donald” is loving every hyper energized moment of his illustrious presidency, one for the ages. MAGA/KAG! Merry Christmas !

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  2. andy says:

    wait… you mean a simple jaggoff stoner like me in Max Skepticism Mode, who would routinely claim false flag attacks are modus operandi of the deep state, is in company with Sundance? Color me shocked.

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  3. We expect nothing less.

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  4. Lucille says:

    “It should be noted that Brett McGurk was also the envoy used by President Obama in 2016 for secret negotiations (pallets of cash) with the Iranians.”

    Since I can’t open the vid, does the female reporter ask him about this? Oh, right, silly me.

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    • spoogels says:

      Can someone please tweet that fact out-and repeatedly?

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      • mugzey302 says:

        And all you ever hear from the sponge-for-brains is, “but it was THEIR money!” – deliberately missing the point of WHAT they will be doing with the $. Cognitive dissonance. With that annoyed, threatening look on their jackass faces that brays, “shut up! Don’t bother me with the facts, I’ve already made up my mind!” .

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  5. Derek Hagen says:

    Scott Adams calls Trump’s move out of Syria against all military advice, the ballsiest and gutsiest move perhaps ever in human history. Talked about for thousands of years.

    Lately I don’t seem to be worrying much at all at whatever today’s sure thing is that will sink Trump for sure this time. I usually have a mental half smile on my face while I sit back and watch the show.

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    • Derek Hagen says:

      PDJT now has Chucky saying “Mr. President, you will never get YOUR wall”. Well, OK then, how about something made of “STEEL SLATS”? Will that do? Let’s negotiate.

      I love this guy. He still makes me laugh after all these 3 years.

      Donald, you’re the best. I’m lucky to be alive.

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    • ristvan says:

      Scott Adams is a great office cartoonist. As a global strategy pundit, maybe not so much. But no doubt he is full of himself, coffee and all.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Thomas Falbo says:

      Derek it’s true. The Democrat party, Mud Stream Media and their puppet masters are reduced to lunacy.

      Our side has a golden opportunity. The left has used pathetic comedy to try to present our views. To do that, they distort our views and lie in their presentation.

      We need to turn their idiotic statements and views into comedic material. Part of me thinks taki g them in anyway serious gives them legitimacy.

      Mock and laugh at them like they try and fail to do to us. We will win there too because all we have to do is present the truth of their words and actions. Comedy writers will have found the Holy Grail of material to work with on a daily basis.

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    • spoogels says:

      Trump reads and follows the rules in The Art of War by Sun Tzu

      http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html

      Some gems:

      6. There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.

      10. In battle, there are not more than two methods of attack–the direct and the indirect; yet these two in combination give rise to an endless series of manoeuvres.

      12. If we do not wish to fight, we can prevent the enemy from engaging us even though the lines of our encampment be merely traced out on the ground. All we need do is to throw something odd and unaccountable in his way.

      28. Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.

      29. Military tactics are like unto water; for water in its natural course runs away from high places and hastens downwards.

      12. We cannot enter into alliances until we are acquainted with the designs of our neighbours.

      14. We shall be unable to turn natural advantage to account unless we make use of local guides.

      21. Ponder and deliberate before you make a move.

      22. He will conquer who has learnt the artifice of deviation. Such is the art of manoeuvring.

      21. The enemy’s spies who have come to spy on us must be sought out, tempted with bribes, led away and comfortably housed. Thus they will become converted spies and available for our service.

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  6. snarkybeach says:

    another Treeper posted the other day that the whole Syrian mess started to facilitate a pipeline that some wealthy Dems want built.

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    • JohninMK says:

      That would be the proposed gas pipeline up from Qatar through Iraq/Syria/Turkey/Greece and Bulgaria into the EU. Syria said no so became another US target as per Iraq and Libya who’s leaders also fell foul of Washington’s demands.

      Qatar and Iran share the Pars gas field and if a pipeline is built it will probably start in Iran (OK with Syria) rather than Qatar but there will be a deal between them.

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    • Sayit2016 says:

      Um.. that is why Russian and Turkey are parked on Israels border. They have found a massive oil reserve near the Golan heights. Russia wants that oil ( and the pipeline to Greece) It is going to be very very interesting to see how this plays out.

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      • Heika says:

        Um… no not quite accurate. Look into Genie Energy. Full stop. Look at the directors etc etc… then you will see why ISRAEL is bombing the crap out of Syria and using the excuse of this and that…bla bla, so much so that it has crept into the reason USA was in Syria (because Iran). Its the opposite of what you say. I do not like the Iran rulers one bit, as they destroyed a free country but do the research on who arranged that little deal. The answer is not nice or sweet. Israel is nothing more than the petrol station for a bunch of nasty neocons (include Rothschilds who arranged all that way back) who have their fingers firmly planted in making USA pay for that they want their for their greedy selves. Its all a great big con job. Why should young Americans pay for this? The likes of what the ‘genie’ wants? They should not.

        Here is a taste – “Genie’s founder, chairman, controlling shareholder and CEO is Howard Jonas. Avi Goldin serves as the company’s CFO, Michael Stein is the company’s COO and Geoffrey Rochwarger serves as Vice Chairman. The president of its Israeli subsidiary is Effie Eitam. Genie Energy’s Strategic advisory board is composed of: Dick Cheney (former vice president of the United States), Rupert Murdoch (media mogul and chairman of News Corp), James Woolsey (former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head of the US Treasury), Bill Richardson, former Governor of New Mexico, an ex-ambassador to the United Nations and United States Energy Secretary[2], Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild,[3][2], and Mary Landrieu, former United States Senator from Louisiana.”

        That is what SYRIA is about… nothing else, and never was. ZERO All those deaths for these people.

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      • Now I Am Really Confused. says:

        The Golan is occupied territory. Whatever gas found there Eretz Yisrael government have no claim to it.

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        • Sayit2016 says:

          Depends on who you listen to .. Palestine has no state and has never been a state… This was captured back in the 1967 6 day war. Israel conquered the Golan from the Amorites. That is their claim to the land.

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          • JohninMK says:

            Palestine was there before Israel was thought of. We, the British, under pressure to get the US into WW1 to break the stalemate with Germany, had to agree to the Faustian bargain with the Banksters to start the process to create a Jewish state that turned into Israel. Otherwise known as the Balfour Declaration.

            Israel has no legal claim over the Golan, in this case might is not right, and may well have to give it up.

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            • Sayit2016 says:

              UM… no. SORRY. Palestine was never a state….nice try….but no.

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            • Sayit2016 says:

              There has never been an independent Palestinian state. A self-identifiable, self-ruling and recognized Palestinian entity never existed until the Arab Palestinian national movement in the 20th century.Palestine was the name given by the Romans following the capture, destruction and expulsion of Judea. Before Britain and France carved up the Middle East following World War I, the region was part of the Ottoman Empire and the territory divided into urban-centered municipalities called sanjaks. The sanjaks of Jerusalem, Nablus, Acre and Beirut are part of present-day Israel.Israel offered the Palestinians 97% of the land they claimed to be fighting for in 2000, making Israel the first and only country ever to offer them a state. This offer was rejected with no counter-offer. A similar offer was made in 2008 with the same result.

              So yeah facts matter.

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    • mugzey302 says:

      Well, doesn’t that just FIGURE! Our guys are dying and being permanently scarred for some corporate expansion, money-making deal!?! We really are the disposable slaves for the cabal. Maddeningly heartbreaking.

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  7. wj2016 says:

    Of all the outrageous Trump hating craziness going on, I think the collective left’s outrage over pulling out of a pointless military conflict is the most extreme. Lefties and many GOPes have lost their minds. In the past, the one thing you could rely on was for lefties to be anti war. It was the only thing going for them. Some of them even spoke out against the phony intelligence generated Iraq war build up back in 03. But now, they would be outraged if PDT pulled out of Iraq as Obama did in 2011.

    It’s a bad development. We need a credible anti war movement in this country to balance out against the false flags and fake news generated war hysteria.

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    • I agree but sadly…I don’t think it would do much good. If those who still follow the left and demtards that make up that group, haven’t left after two years of constant blathering lies and b.s., I don’t anything is going to persuade the remainder who haven’t chosen to walk away. Hate is the only thing they have remaining and they look upon that as their greatest asset.

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      • Dutchman says:

        I don’t know about that. Abuse victims keep taking it, year after year, right up until they,…DON’T.

        Watching the walkaway videos, the theme is often repeated, they have a ‘camels back’ moment, where they say
        (As my dear old Dad used to say);
        “There is some sh*t up with which I will not put!”

        I suspect for SOME, the realisation that they are now in the position of, in effect, chanting “Make WAR, not LOVE!” will cause them ti wake up.

        Thing is, that redpill moment is unique to each individual, but once it happens, they can’t unsee what they now see.

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        • Agree to an extent. The abuse victims you utilize as reference are those involved in relationships of sorts (spouse/living together), which is quite different than people who KNOW they are being lied to but don’t care, which is basically what I am referring to.

          And sadly, I have several examples within my own family and relative cluster. Yes, there does come a point in which the “red pill” moment MIGHT hit. But when one’s hatred is so rabid and vicious that it becomes THEIR defining quality/characteristic, then they can take all the red pills they want….it ain’t going to make a difference until it’s too late.

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    • nimrodman says:

      “Of all the outrageous Trump hating craziness going on, I think the collective left’s outrage over pulling out of a pointless military conflict is the most extreme. Lefties and many GOPes have lost their minds.”

      Lefties want Assad dethroned … because bad guy.

      Big meanie. Drops “barrel bombs” and other atrocities.

      Trust me, I’ve had conversations with them.
      “Assad’s a really, really bad man …”

      For one, I’ve never understood their mania about barrel bombs. Is anyone less dead if bombed with conventional bombs than with barrel bombs?

      I try to point out that Assad was freely elected by his populace, and doesn’t he have a right to defend against a violent uprising seeking to unseat him?

      Didn’t Leftys think it was a really bad idea for the US to unseat leaders in Central America 20 or 30 years ago?

      Any logic or reason falls on deaf ears.

      I’ve stopped arguing with liberals – you both get muddy and the liberal enjoys it.

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    • Veterans for Peace has come out in support of the withdrawal from Syria and also Afghanistan. They are primarily a Dem group at this point, so this is significant…bet CNN is not reporting on it.
      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/left-leaning-organization-veterans-for-peace-issues-statement-supporting-president-trumps-withdrawal-from-syria/

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  8. Truthfilter says:

    Time to start looking for Mitch’s replacement in 2020.

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  9. WSB says:

    Just another day at the office…G’night Ralph…g’night Sam.

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  10. quintrillion says:

    President Trump said at many rallies that he was never going to tell the media his moves in regards to the enemy/war, all around him are leakers and liars. Better to have worked out all his strategy and then just do it. VSG ! Thank You President Trump. Promises Made, Promises Kept.

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  11. Tazio Nuvolari says:

    I believe the media and the uni-party are badly over-playing their hands on this. I’ve seen even many avowed leftists praising this move by President Trump. I can’t help but feel that at least 75% of the normal, everyday working American public are fully behind that and don’t want us involved in these overseas military involvements. The uni-party and the media are showing these citizens their true colors now, they would rather have war than peace.

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  12. quintrillion says:

    Did the US military just help WIN 2 wars against head chopping terrorists in Iraq and Syria? Yes.
    We Won !. Are our fighters coming home for Christmas? Yes. Best Christmas Ever.

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  13. DaveK says:

    It’s time for us to get out of the way… The Syria/Lebanon/Palestinian theater is going to get very hot, very soon, and we don’t want to be caught in the middle.

    Far better for us to stand on the sidelines while providing support for Israel, Saudi Arabia, and others as they deal with the Iranian expansionist threat. Too bad that a bunch of Russians will be caught in the middle.

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  14. guybee55 says:

    This is just another example of whatever Trump does, it is wrong.
    Another thought to process – is it not amazing that the dims play gullible McCain and used his hatred of Trump to initiate the dossier false flag? Think about it. What better way to give credibility to a phony, ridiculous allegation than to have one of the opposition party bring it to everyone’s attention. It is classic dim hypocrisy

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    • Dutchman says:

      I don’t believe mccain was ‘played’; he was a willing, eager participant, although your sortvof right, about his role.
      In order to give it the veneer thatc”Hey, this isn’t political, they used a research firm that FIRST was working, during the primary, for a conservative financer.

      And then, they needed a ‘Republican’ to feed it into the receptive arms if the FBI/DOJ, and I have no doubt that mccain was EAGER to play the role!

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  15. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    Good riddance.

    With the shutdown and the pullouts in Syria and Afghanistan, Trump has totally changed the conversation and the mood. Far Lefties who hate war suddenly want us to stay in Syria. The media has to try to make ISIS-in-Syria (decimated) into the new Putin.

    Trump is on a great roll right now.

    The Twitter Lefties are trying to borrow off the Yellow Vests and call for Trump to resign.

    Mueller is fading into the background.
    Market crash is fading into the background.
    Barr talk is fading into the background.
    Whitaker taking over the Mueller investigation is fading into the background.

    The kooks know it, too:

    The “avalanche of crazy” is Trump changing the narrative as he wants.

    There is a large push to build enthusiasm for impeachment as the Dems are about to take power in the House. But…who cares about impeachment when the government is shut down? Who can be mad at Trump when he’s bringing the troops home? And so forth.

    Brilliant strategy from POTUS.

    With Mattis on the way out, there are only two people left in the Cabinet/Main Staff who I’m not sure are Trumpers (I guess some may put Bolton on this list, too):

    Nielsen
    Coats

    I respect Mattis, but he’s not a Trumper. Nielsen, with Kelly about gone, now has no allies in the Administration. She can be ousted at any time. And she might even serve as a useful scapegoat-in-waiting if the Dems investigate Family Separation (much as Sessions might).

    Coats? Also not a Trumper. Does he need to go? I don’t know. Maybe.

    So, Trump is sorting through his staff and getting even closer to “his” team. This is a great thing, and will make him even stronger and protected as we go forward.

    The one key thing on the Syria pullout is that THERE WERE NO LEAKS. Even though the decision was known for several days. No leaks. That helps POTUS understand who will not leak, and who may have been leaking.

    Mattis didn’t know about the decision ahead of time. No leaks.

    Getting more excited by the hour. Go POTUS!

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    • starfcker says:

      That’s one way to look at it, Sally. But there are other interpretations as well. How about this one. The Department of Justice and the White House work hand-in-hand to put all the corruptocrats like you in prison for the rest of their lives. Works for me

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      • starfcker says:

        Think about what Sally Yates is saying. It is critical for “democracy” that elected leaders like President Trump don’t get in the way of non-elected bureaucrats like her. He fired her like the rat she is. Hopefully, he ends up prosecuting her like the traitor she is.

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    • snellvillebob says:

      Manafort has been separated from his children for months now, in Solitary confinement.

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    • Palafox says:

      Sally Yates: rule of flaw.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Great point on leaking, and yes its pretty obvious Mattis was caught totally off guard.
      As for Bolton, be interesting to see if he stays, I’m betting he does.

      Yes, he’s labeled a neocon, but he has been with POTUS during his trade negotiations, and trying hard not to openly laugh his *ss off; I think he ‘gets Trump’, like some of treepers, realises how historic this is, and is enjoying having a ring side seat.

      And, as long as he serves the President faithfully, POTUS has no reasin to replace him.

      Besides, POTUS wants Bolton standing with him, when he tells the UN;
      “I’ll be standing on the dock, waving good bye. Now, hurry up and vacate, thats PRIME real estate you’ve been occupying!”

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    • spoogels says:

      Makes one wonder if Mattis was a leaker?

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  16. Stand by for Assad to “gas his own people” again, right on schedule.

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    • spoogels says:

      Let him. I don’t give a fig. Muslimes have been killing each other for centuries. The more they wipe out Muslime breeding stock the better as far as I’m concerned

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      • Michael Todaro says:

        Yes Spoogels, you are so right. There are 2,000,000,000 Muslims worldwide so let them have at it. They are even in Congress. There’s no sense in protecting them. MAGA/KAG ! Merry Christmas !

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  17. joeknuckles says:

    I think everyone is missing the point on why the haters are so upset about Trump’s Syria announcement. It was the use of the word “victory”. They can’t allow any victories.

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  18. smurfette says:

    Sundance wrote “I would not be surprised to see deep state actors within the United States CIA and State Department begin covert black-op missions to attack the Kurds, as an excuse to force U.S. re-engagement. Watch for it in 3,.. 2,…”

    YUP! Good point! If we can forecast it, the less apt they are to pull the wool over our eyes! Now that we know the deep state CIA military congressional commerce complex have a vested interest in fomenting war and unrest just to keep their pockets lined…the more obvious they become as the true enemies of the state.

    We need to end the worldwide illegal use of satellites by every country. No satellites, no one-way cybernetic warfare on Kurds and Americans. As an aside, Manchurian candidates can indeed put at risk gun ownership rights. End satellites.

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  19. andyocoregon says:

    So if ISIS becomes a problem in Syria once again, we can still bomb the bejeebers out of them, can’t we? We don’t need our ground troops getting in the way of our bombs.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Who was it that said “Going to war without the French is like going to war without an accordian.”?

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    • olderwiser21 says:

      I think most of the real warriors left in the French community are busy trying to get rid of Macaroni. Not sure how much help they would be in a foreign conflict.

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    • JohninMK says:

      Modern warfare is difficult without air support. Not sure how the French are going to achieve that after the USAF pulls out in 90 days and the likely implementation of a no fly zone over Syria by Syria/Russia.

      Could be French puffing themselves as may have happened in the past. Mind you their stated aim, kill all French ISIS members is one to be supported. Be good if they got RuAF combat air support.

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  20. cripto says:

    Need more water to douse all the flaming hair in the Media.

    Unclassified statement of CENTCOM: “At this time, we continue to work by, with and through our partners in the region.” Also #US State Department officials say that they will support Kurdish militias for next 2 months. But the ones with No ties to PKK terror group

    This is an interesting read. Seems reasonable:
    “Following the backlash from President Trump’s decision to withdraw US troops from NE Syria, senior administration officials Friday night, Dec. 21 offered Mid East leaders clarifications for allaying their concerns. DEBKAfile’s sources reveal those messages’ high points:
    US troops will leave eastern and northern Syria, but America is not deserting this part of the country, said the officials, without revealing the nature of its continuing presence.

    1)The Trump administration has not abandoned the Kurds or “stabbed them in the back” as widely reported, “and the Kurds know this,” it was authoritatively said. And, indeed, despite their loud cries of dismay, not a single Syrian Kurdish militiaman has deserted the lines they hold against ISIS in eastern Syria.

    2)Regarding President Tayyip Erdogan declaration that the Turkish army was about to march on East Euphrates and reach the Kurdish capital of Qamishli, amid fears of a massacre, the US officials advised distinguishing between talk and deeds. They referred to a phone conversation between Presidents Trump and Erdogan on Dec. 14, in which the latter promised his army would not cross the Euphrates. In a speech welcoming the US pullout from Syria on Friday, Erdogan allowed that Turkey would “wait a little longer before launching the operation” and counted on US “logistic support.”

    3)Trump said subsequently that the troop pullout would be phased out within 40-60 days. According to the US officials, a more realistic timeline would be 4 to 6 months. “During that time, Syria is bound to see many developments that may require Washington to revise its plans.”

    4)The US and Iraq are in advanced negotiations for the deployment to
    the Iraqi-Syria border of the Iraqi Special Operations Forces (ISOF) – the “Golden Division” – which drove ISIS out of Mosul. It will stand in the path of Iranian and Iraqi Shiite militias crossings into Syria.

    6)Part of the ISOF’s deployment will include the western Iraqi province of Anbar. In this regard, the US officials referred to a disclosure by Mohammad al-Dilemi, one of the chiefs of Anbar’s Arab tribes. On Dec. 12, he said that the US army was building a new base on the line dividing Anbar from the next-door province of Nineveh. It would position US troops 30km north of the Euphrates River and near the Syrian border. This new base will provide the Iraqi division with American backup.

    7)The officials from Washington refused to confirm or deny that the Russians were involved in the forthcoming US plans for Syria; nor would they refer to a possible US-Turkish-Russian deal on the subject. They did take note of the strides taken in recent weeks toward repairing Russian-Israeli relations. The US officials pointed out that the transfer of a Russian S-300 air defense missile battalion to Deir ez-Zour in eastern Syria brought the Israeli Golan and Galilee Panhandle within their range, but not the Israel Air Force bases in northern and central Israel.”

    More clarification and seems to confirm above reports:
    Sec Pompeo’s interview posted on @State covering the Syria withdrawal and NK.
    https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2018/12/288249.htm

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    • cripto says:

      Further news from Heshmet Alavi’s twitter feed. (much more on situation in Iran and recent US gov actionable sanctions).
      @HeshmatAlavi

      #BREAKING 1) France will replace the U.S. in northern Syria The French Foreign Ministry confirms that following talks with U.S. officials, its forces will replace U.S. forces in northern Syria to help maintain security in the region. yenisafak.com/en/world/franc… pic.twitter.com/VLIAUr40wv

      #BREAKING 2) In the next three months, with each group of U.S. forces leaving Syria, a French unit will enter the northern Syrian regions, sources say. France has invited Syrian Democratic Forces’ representatives for talks with senior officials in Paris.

      #BREAKING 3) Kurdish officials Riyadh Derar & Elham Ahmed have gone to Elysee Palace for talks. This decision will any disrupt the plans of Bashar Assad to take over oil fields in this area & Turkey’s plans to launch cross-border operations into northern Syria. More to follow.

      #BREAKING 4) 2,000 U.S. military forces exiting #Syria will be stationing inside Iraq, in a base located 60 kilometers from #Iran’s border, according to an Iraqi Kurd source. (File Photo) pic.twitter.com/0xLfoS3eUS

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    • olderwiser21 says:

      Thank you, Cripto – really good info.

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      • Sayit2016 says:

        Points 1-4 look like a plan to me… wait what ? Trump had a plan ? You know why the peeps are upset with Trump (again) ? Because they have been crying about every decision he has made and they know Trump does not give a red rats ass what they think. He did not ask them for advise. Irrelevance is a tough pill to swallow.

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  21. DJ says:

    Well, pretty much every left wing blowhard that was AGAINST having the US military involved in Syria in the first place is now AGAINST pulling them out. Go figure…

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  22. Piggy says:

    Questions the media if they were legit would ask by former US Army General William Odom (former NSA Director for Ronald Reagan).

    These questions were brought up about the Iraq War but the questions are the same for Syria and Afghanistan.

    http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ask_this.view&askthisid=129

    Our Enemedia is the worst.

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  23. WSB says:

    Margaret Brennan, another deep state traveler? We have investigated her world before. Sketchy.

    As is her husband.

    “Born Ali Iyad Yakub, Yado Yakub is Syrian American. His parents are Dr. Y. Nabil Yakub and Rolana I. Yakub.

    His father works as a nephrologist at Fairfax Hospital in Falls Church, Virginia. Meanwhile, his mother works as a preschool teacher at the County Day School in McLean, Virginia.”

    https://www.earnthenecklace.com/yado-yakubs-wiki-husband-margaret-brennan/

    He a also goes by the name Ali Iyad Yakub (convenient), and has written farce about the islamic roots of democracy, infecting this through the University of Miami.

    https://repository.law.miami.edu/do/search/?q=author_lname%3A%22Yakub%22%20author_fname%3A%22Ali%22&start=0&context=4950896&facet=

    More importantly, Yakub has served in OUR military.

    https://relationshipscience.com/person/ali-iyad-yakub-155366646

    Very sketchy person, if you ask me.

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  24. Carthoris says:

    “The bottom-line is ISIS in Syria has been defeated; that was our purpose for being there. “

    That was President Trump’s purpose; it was your purpose; it was my purpose; so in that sense, it was our purpose. It, as I know you know, wasn’t the Deep State’s purpose though.

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  25. ecmarsh says:

    I wonder how many of these critics were ever drafted to go and fight in a useless war?
    I am sick of hearing these scums telling us that our young ones need to die for no reason.
    These people chap my azz!

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  26. Donna in Oregon says:

    “I would not be surprised to see deep state actors within the United States CIA and State Department begin covert black-op missions to attack the Kurds, as an excuse to force U.S. re-engagement. Watch for it in 3,.. 2,…”

    I hope and pray that POTUS has the foresight to FISA these Deep State minions of the Elites.

    I would love to see the military court proceedings for the Deep State.

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    • Carthoris says:

      That would be classic “out of the frying pan and into the fire”. Today’s generals would have you in the dock before they would have any of the deep state there. See what they did to even their own troops, like LTC Terry Lakin, with their kangaroo courts if ever there was such a thing. See what the French generals did to Dreyfus. If we didn’t need our generals occasionally, like WWII, there would be a bounty on them.

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  27. Carthoris says:

    Though we have heard of stupid haste in war, there has never been an instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
    – Sun Tzu

    Sometime it is almost like there is not a single current American Army or Marine General who even knows how to read. Clearly, our President needs to send them all back to the first grade and they can start from there again and this time try to stay awake in class.

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  28. kltk1 says:

    In light of everything that’s going on with this decision. The absolute best thing that’s come of it is the exposure of the UniParty players on the Democrat side. All of a sudden they’re war hawks? And it’s both sides playing us like fools.

    If they’re not happy, it’s a clear sign POTUS is on the right track. And that makes me happy.

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  29. czarowniczy says:

    And the BS flies. Now the Democrats, who were all hot to trot to bail out of every US military engagement in the Mideast are whining to stay. Watch out for flying pigs.

    We have babysat the Kurds for decades. We chided the Turks decades ago when they hunted the PKK members as the PKK was committing acts of terrorism in Turkey in furtherance of their claim to Turkish territory as part of the Kurdistan dream.
    Flash forward to Desert Storm where, after swatting Saddam’s butt, we established a safe zone in northern Iraq where the Kurds wouldn’t be attacked by the Saddam we decided to leave in place. Not that Saddam didn’t have a reason, mind you, as the Kurds had been fighting the Iraqi government for decades as they also claimed a chunk of Iraq as part of Kurdistan.

    Syria is much of the same, the Kurds claim a chunk of Syrian territory, roughly the same chunk of Syria that the Turks claim as theirs, as part of that fuzzy-bordered Kurdistan. The Kurds were fighting to swat ISIS but were more so fighting for territory they could use to establish the western area of Kurdistan. The Turks put up with it as long as the Kurds met their needs but as soon as the Kurds had done the dirty work it was back to business as usual.

    I believe Trump sees the futility of going back to playing eternal referee between the Kurds, Iraq, Turkey and Syria, especially as the Kurds use our protection as an umbrella to continue their attacks, trying to steal sovereign territory from each state. No one else in this far away foreign area is anywhere near as sympathetic with the Kurds as we are, no one else has had as long term hand-holding history with the Kurds as we do. The Kurds aren’t about to give up on that Kurdistan dream and our only options are to leave or help them carve out a homeland…we could adopt them but as they don’t speak Spanish…

    The Saudis probably aren’t going to send troops, they cobbled together a multi-Arab force to deal with Yemen, a job that was supposed to take a few months, and four years later they’re still bogged down there with no end in sight. Even if they do send troops I don’t see them being as judicious in chasing ISIS or protecting the Kurds as we were. Hell, they said just a few months back they were going to send $4-billion in stabilization funds to the area but that hasn’t shown up either. It’s their backyard, let them clean up for a while.

    The place is, has been and more than likely will be a s**thole for the foreseeable future. The West has been trying to straighten out the area for well over a century, which is largely what caused the mess in the first place. Let’s pull out and let the immediately interested parties sort it out. Once it shakes out we’ll have a better idea of where we are and what we have to do. In the meantime were group, reequip and get ready for the splashback our misadventures there will cause here.

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    • Sayit2016 says:

      President Trump has once again done the impossible, he has turned ” war hating” liberals into war mongers. ; )

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    • Sayit2016 says:

      Saudi troops are already there… I agree with what you’re saying and principles but I think you view the Kurds in a way that I do not as I remember very clearly when Russia was literally gunning down the Kurds and no one was doing anything about it, we did not step in and fight their War for them , we gave them the weapons to fight their own War, a war in which they won, and further would have won a lot sooner had the US not jerking around and gave them one part of a weapon and not the other which they needed. It was stupid politics. My theory is if you’re going to help someone help them in earnest and give them what they actually need to move forward, half-measures don’t cut it.

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      • Dutchman says:

        I also have a slightly different take, as I think refering to ‘soveriegn nations’, in the middle east is,…problematic.

        Britain, primarily drew the borders, and intentionally included sunnis with shiites, in order to guarantee division.

        So, if the kurds, turkey and syrians all lay claim to the same piece of real eastate, they may ALL have legitimate claims,…or none.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        The Turks have been hunting the Kurds with no bag limit for decades, and the PKK is still on State’s list of terrorist organizations.
        I believe our use of the Kurds was a case of realpolitik, we needed them to do a job Obama and State didn’t want to and we armed them, let them fight ISIS, bleed and die.
        The media’s now reporting that Turkey has said it will mop up the remains of ISIS in Syria. That fits our needs and serves the purpose of keeping a NATO member as the most powerful military in the area and, along with Greece, a check on the Black Sea. The Kurds served a purpose but we sure ain’t gonna sacrifice our long strategic relationship with Turkey over them.
        The US uses whomever it needs to and does not shy from throwing them under the bus when we need to. The Dawn Cossacks in WW II, the Bloc countries if you want to go that far, various ethnic groups during the Cold War and our Latin/South American adventures, the Hmong and Cham in Vietnam – it’s how real world strategic politics work. We had a no-fly zone in the north of Iraq to protect the Kurds but lety Saddam destroy the Marsh Arabs. There are more examples but you get the idea. Does anyone believe we’ll let the Kurds carve an enclave out of Syria, Turkey and Iraq?

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        • Jan says:

          As a famous movie once said, Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a D**N!. Let these people figure it out for themselves.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            I’m not heavily invested in their issues, their mess is mostly due to their decisions. One could argue that it was due to Western interference post-WWI but I’d argue it was their decision to get involved with the losing side.
            I have no great interest in them except as part of a job long gone, they’ve been killing each other for millenia and there’s no end in sight. My interest/worry is that ISIS has managed to smuggle out a significant amount of cash and valuables and will become al Qaeda 2.0 and turn their attention to Europe and the US in a big way.
            The Rats will blame Trump for pulling out but the dispersion occurred before Trump made the call, ISIS should have been contained and eradicated, destroyed to the last practitioner, long before Trump came into office. It should have been done before they killed off Christian and other non-Moslem communities that had existed in the Levant for over a thousand years. Then again we were suffering under the weight of our first Baathist president, so…
            Now the issue is what price we and Europe will pay. When it starts our Rat, and some RINO, apologist pols will blame our long record of anti-Moslem actions around the world – the deaths and destruction will be the fault of the victims and not the perps. Our personal and even local governmental abilities to respond and defend ourselves will sharply curtailed – ain’t we seeing that now – and things will take an even sharper turn left.
            I’m not defending the Kurds, Turks, Saudis or any of them – personally I’d like to make the late Curtis Lemay our ambassador to Islam. The radical Moslems are the last dregs of Hitler’s Third Reich that we have yet to deal with as they should be dealt with.

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  30. jeff semda says:

    Not heard much from Pelosi in the last fee days. She is never going to keep up over the next 2 years. The conservative caucus is going to mess with the old hag till she just sits and babbles endlessly.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Seems like we haven’t heard much from Durbin, since the sh*thole comment debacle.
      Perhaps after messing with the BULL, and getting the horn, people tend to be leery of climbing in for another go round?

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  31. montanamel says:

    I’m liking this more each day…
    Get our troops home over the next 2-3 weeks (a guess, could be 4 weeks?) and get them on their 30 day leaves….That puts them back in the stir around late January to early Feb…

    I just had to back out nearly 20 lines of text…my mind is running in neutral with the clutch out… These worthless Dem’s truly need some “in your face” time.

    When will Gitmo start filling up?

    Check-6

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  32. cthulhu says:

    Heh — possible next SecDef says, “durned right we can get our military out of there. Let ’em use mercenaries….” https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-is-right-to-withdraw-from-syria-he-should-replace-us-troops-with-private-contractors

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  33. Dutchman says:

    Slow down, francis. This is not a trip downhill, to the circle K. Its like a round the world roadtrip, and we just really getting going.

    Got your seat belt fastened, its not that its gonna get bumpy, so much as WILD!

    THIS IS THE FUN PART

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  34. spoogels says:

    Trump Decided To Withdraw From Syria After Stumping John Bolton With One Question

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/22/trump-syria-bolton-withdrawal/

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  35. wolfrom1 says:

    Time for a change in US policy in the area. Economics and fast jets. Our country is being threatened. Protect America first. Put the troops and the $ on our border.

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  36. jerseyjoe says:

    On Syria I fall back on an observation informed by over 40 years of wars and 5 purple hearts.

    “The geniuses in Washington know how to get us into wars, don’t do what it takes to win them, and don’t know how to get out “.

    History for dummies since 1979.

    The geniuses allowed radical elements to take over Iran.

    The geniuses allowed the USSR to invade Afghanistan, then supported the beginnings of AQ.

    Geniuses then supported Saddam in a war with Iran.

    Geniuses then declared war with Saddam. PG1

    Geniuses allowed two faced Saudi Arabia to influence all our policy with $$$ and fund OBL.

    Geniuses allowed AQ grow to destroy several embassies, sink the USS Cole, carry out 9-11 attacks, etc.

    Geniuses stole defeat from the jaws of victory by invading Afghanistan then Iraq (PG2) at the same time leaving a disaster in the wake of both.

    The geniuses have allowed radical anti-US groups and drug cartels to flourish in Central and South America.

    The geniuses have allowed China to steal us blind and become our greatest threat.

    The geniuses decided to support the so called “Arab Spring” which has destroyed Syria, Libya, etc., nearly lost Egypt.

    The same geniuses that killed 240 USMC/USN “peacekeepers” deployed in an indefensible position with weak rules of engagement in Beirut in 1983.

    The same geniuses that escorted oil tankers in the Persian Gulf with no plan for defending against mines in 1987 Earnest Will Operation after multiple vessels were previously hit by mines.

    The same geniuses that sailed a cruiser and a minesweeping helo carrier into a mine field in PGW II causing severe damage.

    The same geniuses that spent millions to arm and train a “Free Syrian Army” that produced less than 50 reliable soldiers.

    The same geniuses that were ambushed with heavy losses and no armored support in the battle of Mogadishu.

    The same geniuses that said the Russians could not last more the a few months in Syria.

    The same geniuses who had Saddam boxed in but invaded anyway and destroyed a buffer against Iran

    The same geniuses who said dropping a MOAB in Afghanistan would frighten the Taliban to the peace table.

    The same geniuses that said bombing Syria would end the use of chemical agents. When most experts admit chemicals used by both sides.

    The geniuses funded and armed the anti-Assad forces, much of whom turned out to be radical Islamists, destroyed the country, caused the Benghazi debacle, brought Syria’s traditional allies, the Iranians and Russians back to Syria in force.

    The geniuses cannot see the Syrian civil war is a continuance of the Sunni-Shiite war that has been going on since the 7th Century.

    The geniuses decision greased by SA money to arm the anti-Assad Syrian elements contributed to the rise of ISIS and destruction of Christian communities, that previously living in relative peace.

    The geniuses called ISIS the jay-vee’s and allowed them to flourish supported by Saudi Arabia, the same SA that is now evil for murdering a dissident.

    Now a big dummy named Trump who as he said was to crush ISIS, accomplished that mission now finds the US troops in a powder keg surrounded by competing countries and agendas’ that no one can really explain. The area includes, Syria, Iran, Russia, Iraq, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, radical Sunni’s, radical Shiites, and the unfortunate Kurds, who have historically been in a very tough neighborhood.

    The Dummy wants to get out of that mess, find other means to control it before more Americans are killed and it sparks WW III.

    The geniuses of course disagree with the Dummy.

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  37. Kent Clizbe says:

    “…covert black-op missions to attack the Kurds, as an excuse to force U.S. re-engagement. ”

    Just to get the terminology straight: what you’re predicting would be a “false flag” operation.

    Sort of like the discovered “chemical attacks” used to justify US military actions in Syria.

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