Nervous Pandas Get Twitchy Watching Shrinking Bamboo Forest…

It’s not a bluff; it’s never a bluff…. He doesn’t bluff.  I’ve looked through the interviews, writing and granules of opponents describing hundreds of deals, and I cannot find a single person who ever said that Donald Trump was bluffing during any negotiations.

NYT cont. […] In recent days, officials from the Commerce Ministry, the police and other agencies have summoned exporters to ask about plans to lay off workers or shift supply chains to other countries.

With stocks slumping and the currency dropping 9 percent against the dollar since mid-April, censors have been deleting a torrent of criticism online, some of it directed at President Xi Jinping’s leadership.  State news outlets, by contrast, have sought to promote the official line, with the authorities restricting the use of the phrase “trade war.”

[…] If the trade war escalates — and Mr. Trump has shown no sign of backing down — some worry that the public’s faith in the economy could be shaken, exposing the nation to much more serious problems than a drop in exports. New economic data on Tuesday showed slower growth in investment and consumer spending, and there are fears that the financial crisis in Turkey could spread.

China’s leaders have argued that they can outlast Mr. Trump in a trade standoff. Their authoritarian system can stifle dissent and quickly redirect resources, and they expect Washington to be gridlocked and come under pressure from voters feeling the pain of trade disruptions.

But the Communist Party is vulnerable in its own way. It needs growth to justify its monopoly on power and is obsessed with preventing social instability. Mr. Xi’s strongman grip may be hindering effective policymaking, as officials fail to pass on bad news, defer decisions to him and rigidly carry out his orders, for better or worse.  (read more)

It would appear that Chairman Xi, like Justin from Canada, is rolling the economic dice based on advice from those close to him, and betting the 2018 mid-term elections will block President Trump from carrying out the America-First, pro-middle-class, U.S. trade reset.

In a typical Beijing maneuver Chairman Xi appears to be counting on the stupidity of the American voter to help China create leverage in the aftermath of POTUS Trump destroying all former dragon trade strategies.

If the MAGA movement can hold the 2018 mid-term elections, and if we can deliver Trump the victory he/we need, there is going to be a seismic shift in the entire global trade system the likes of which have never been contemplated.  A massive shift so economically consequential it is simply too incredible to even quantify.

Trillions will pour into the U.S.

 

 

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336 Responses to Nervous Pandas Get Twitchy Watching Shrinking Bamboo Forest…

  1. scott467 says:

    “It would appear that Chairman Xi, like Justin from Canada, is rolling the economic dice based on advice from those close to him…”

    ___________________

    How can that be?

    China has a zero-sum worldview. If something is not good for China, then China doesn’t do it.

    If China is rolling dice, then by definition, China wins and the dice lose 😉

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      They are betting that the odds of them rolling snake eyes 6 times in a row are infinitesimal. The problem is that they’re not rolling dice, they’re sitting in a sealed room with stale air, and President Trump has the oxygen.

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    • Wrong analogy. China isn’t rolling dice here, but playing Texas Hold’em. They’re gonna lose.

      Liked by 5 people

      • scott467 says:

        The way things are going, it’s almost like DJT is a street hustler and the Chinese are trying their luck at 3-Card Monte. 😁

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        • Jedi9 says:

          Its more like Mahjong!

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        • Daniel says:

          I think it’s far more simple than that. He knows what the US market means to the world. He is reminding them all of just exactly how important the US market is to them.

          And one thing that does surprise me a little is that there has been no real talk about “replacing China with India” in terms of manufacturing or the like. They are more aligned to the US than China. They are “somewhat” more trustworthy than China. And India, at least for now, does not have the domination of the USA at heart.

          India is a threat in the same ways China is a threat, but nowhere near as much.

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          • jmarshs says:

            Very good point. India could very well be our most important friend moving forward. Billions to buy from and Billions to sell to.

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          • USTerminator says:

            Why replace with India? PDJT wants everything are making USA. That is what MAGA is all about. He is not willing to exchange manufacturing jobs from China to India or anywhere else. Trump is not “Let get China” his slogan. Let Mody worry about MIGA.

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            • Elle says:

              That is a good point. But they are a BIG market that USA businesses can sell to. If they also make things that they sell to us (in a fair manner) then it’s a win/win.

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              • USTerminator says:

                That is what the globalists talked about China 30 years ago. This type of thing is never panned out the way it supposes to happen. India, to be fair, any country will protect their market and Americans would be losers again. Let make everything by ourselves, protect our market, trading when appropriate and have our interest in foremost. We could not even beat the EU socialists on trade let alone India. They are too poor to buy now and when they are rich they will just another China on a making. Like PDJT said, we are finished rebuilding other nation. We are rebuilding our own nation.

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                • Johnathan Phillips Rogers says:

                  All we need are ZERO income and corporate taxes, replaced with a national sales tax and a 15% tariff on all imports. THEN we’ll see how much it really costs to make things here. Besides, we can use several countries to replace China, especially if/when the EU crumbles. I’d much rather produce things in Eastern Europe than India. Indians are almost as underhanded and delusional as China.

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            • YvonneMarie says:

              You are right on UST !

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          • Elle says:

            Very interesting about India. It IS a better fit In fact, China is going to find themselves just like Canada if they don’t get in the game before it is too late. It is a head-slappers as to why the India cooperation didn’t happen sooner. Now that the Idea Genie is out of the bottle, and deals are being lined up it is too late to put that Genie back in.

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            • Johnathan Phillips Rogers says:

              No head slapper. The traitors in DC and on Wall St saw a ready-made totalitarian regime that would gladly take American power. Indian isn’t and may never be more than a regional force, largely because of geography and history. But India is already trying to stop the invasion of US tech, so they’ll never really be allies, just provisional partners and assets. But they do have an old and well-established tradition with textiles and fabrics. Let them and other southeast Asian nations take that from China.

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      • RoddREpub says:

        They are losing bigly!

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    • Ditch Mitch says:

      Cutting losses can be a win too. For China its the appearance of a win. Save face?

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      • Dutchman says:

        How, exactly do they DO that, pray tell?

        There is only ONE road out of the mess they are in, and it ain’t the one they planned;
        Cease intellectual property theft
        Open markets
        Cease requiring joint partnerships.

        If they do that, the Chicoms are finished.
        If they don’t, CHINA is finished.
        No way to save face, that I can see, and I don’t think they can, either.

        HENCE, this is the real WHY to the resistance. Their only hope is to SOMEHOW bring down “Trump”.

        THIS explains the single minded, kami-kazi lemmings over the cliff of “TDS” by the media, the demonocrat party, and the Rinos.

        CHINA is the golden goose, for all of them. It is the water source for the swamp.
        No mercy for the Corruptors who have nearly destroyed our country! Let them twist in the wind.

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    • jefcool64 says:

      Their zero sum game is exactly why they are doubling down on keeping the status quo. The alternative (better, fair trade) hurts them so they rather roll the dice and count on the timid American public to deal a blow to Trump.

      This will be a massive egg in their face. Equivalent to gambling away huge wins in a casino when you should know it’s time to quit.

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      • 🍺Gunny says:

        Additionally, it is virtually impossible for them to have a fair trade deal with the US.

        Because…..wait for it…..Everything involved, virtually everything in involved in their trade is cheating, back handed, extreme tariffs, theft technology’s etc.

        So to even begin a fair trade deal as we demand means they lose.

        In any scenario, they lose. They have for years worked on paying politicians off, cheating, and all I have stated above.

        They have painted themselves in a corner. There is only one way out.

        As Sundance has stated numerous times. With China it is Ying or Yang.

        Good or Bad. No middle ground. Win or lose. Peace or War.

        China does not want to lose. In their mind, in their current Governments mindset,
        losing is not an option.

        So in the end, the people of China or America, in the mid-terms will decide.

        If we win the mid-terms, stand by.

        Because. we gonna be rich……😎

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        • USTerminator says:

          The problem with negotiating trade deal with China is not making agreement but make sure China makes solid numericals and not some BS promises that will never be implemented. China can make deal with US right now with promise of working to balance trade sometime in the future that never come. Nor will promise to protect IP blab blab blab …. if US do not change the current deal. What Trump wants and China does not want to give by a hard number and a certain date with enforceable mechanism like surplus decrease by 25% each year start 2019 until trade balance. If the number does not match the outcome then US can implement 25% tariff on any China import until the number goes to compliant. Everyone knows the trade surplus does not come in a year, so can not unwind in a year but need a fixed enforceable mechanism to work reduce it. That is a no go for China since she has no intention to follow thru the agreement.

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      • Yep, good money after bad IF we hold the House. Fingers crossed.

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    • Xi has a problem… he was recently given MUCH more control… and coinciding with his elevation the country begins suffering economic hardship… the OPTICS are NOT GOOD for XI.

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    • Orville R. Bacher says:

      You can fake economic data, you can talk big, but you cannot fake the 2 numbers that are the yardstick of the Chinese economy. Shanghai down 25% since February, Yuan down 10%. Offshore investors to China lost 35% of their money in 6 months.
      Trump always holds Trump cards, China’s cards are all face up on the table.

      And why on earth should the USA offshore the production of anything that is consumed in America, that can be built in America. It is disgusting that “American” globalists have profited mightily by stripping America bare. It might be good for individual greed, but it is the Death of a Nation.

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  2. Tonawanda says:

    VSG uses “truthful hyperbole,” not bluff. This is an essential distinction.

    VSG can say he uses “truthful hyperbole” because he understands 95% of the population will not “get” what he is talking about.

    Integrity is essential to how Trump operates, except for his marital infidelity. His infidelity is a distinct issue.

    Trump’s integrity reflects an aspect of morality almost never discussed. Morality (human nature) is significant because it is the SMARTEST way to live life, the most practical way to behave.

    “Honesty is the best policy” is true not because honesty was decreed by “morality,” but because honesty is the most effective way to live a good life.

    Most people are “immoral” because they have a weak grasp of how life works, while thinking they have a superior grasp of how life works.

    VSG says what he means and means what he says.

    “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.”

    Many innocent folks are not shrewd, and think their lack of shrewdness is proof of their morality.

    Maybe so, but it is also proof of something else.

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    • Interesting, and worth contemplation.

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    • BenH says:

      Your assuming there was infidelity – we do not know the particulars of his marriage/relationship…assuming the girls are even telling the truth.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Esperanza says:

      What marital infidelity? Sorry zero proof he is unfaithful to Melania.
      Bimbo shake down celebrities.

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      • 🍺Gunny says:

        They have been trying to accuse our President of infidelity for decades and never have ever proved anything. Never. Because the cause of his marriage break ups was never infidelity.

        They call it “ theinability to get along.” or

        “Irreconcilable Differences”

        And to place that in your post…… well you be the judge

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        • G. Combs says:

          Agreed.

          IIRC the complaints were he was a Work-aholic and did not spend enough time tending to his marriage. Even his girl friends had the same complaint. He wanted to STAY HOME not party.

          Remember he is still in business with his previous wife.

          I just do not see ‘infidelity’ in President Trump’s make-up. His parent’s marriage was too good and he honored and loved both of them.

          Did his lawyers pay-off the Bimbos chasing him (With a NDA) Of course. It was the simplest AND CHEAPEST method to get some peace and I doubt Trump was even aware of some of the ‘negotiations’

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        • Tonawanda says:

          I placed it in the post as a matter of logic and honesty. That is how I judge it.

          The post in part was expressing the opinion/fact that Trump is a man of integrity. As a matter of logic and honesty, it was only fair to acknowledge that Trump was unfaithful in his marriage.

          Trump himself has admitted he was unfaithful. (Have you heard of Marla Maples?)

          I realize a lot of people would have left that part out, but to my mind omitting that part would have raised the question in the reader’s mind whether the person expressing the opinion knew a significant fact which contradicted his opinion.

          See how that works?

          It’s a complicated business, folks.

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      • Tonawanda says:

        I did not say Melania and do not believe he was unfaithful to her. I believe he has admitted he was unfaithful to Ivana with Maples.

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    • Johnathan Phillips Rogers says:

      Having a weakness for beautiful women isn’t much of an issue in my book as long as it’s not a habit. His word, however, IS a big deal. And he has almost religiously followed through on his word. I knew this would be the result for that reason alone. I tried to tell people but they didn’t believe me. Now who’s laughing.

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  3. Turranos says:

    If someone had told me that China is feeling some major financial pressures and they are going to rely on the American voter to fix the problem for them, I would have never believed it.

    We have to rev up the conservative votes for the mid-terms because there is more than we want to think about riding on the outcome.

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    • Running Fast says:

      … and who do think owns and controls the MSM. Yes the analogy of rolling dice is incorrect; alternatively we should use Power terms… they are ALL IN on the 2018 election.

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      • Running Fast says:

        power=poker

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      • oncefiredbrass says:

        The MSM have lost their Power of Propaganda over most Americans. They may still have the Left but only because they are still in Denial! All their Push Polls during the 2016 Election bought them exactly Zero! What little power they have left will disappear as more and more of the Big Ugly is revealed. Us Treepers were all under the impression that people would be in jail by now, but we will give the Black Hats a bit of credit for holding things off as long as they have, but Explode It Will!

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        • Jedi9 says:

          I think Running Fast is inferring the recent actions of the tech Giants shutting down AJ as a means to shutting all voices down right before the elections! We have work to do to come up with a solution so that the big tech Giants can’t influence the elections! This is serious stuff, and time to get our game faces in to face this problem head on!

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          • Sharon says:

            Simple. treat them like a communications company and make them follow the equal time standards, break them up into separate entities, take off theie additional protections so they can be sued for illegal actions like removing Alex, fire all board members, replace Zuckerberg, and allow them to lose their license to continue if they continue their discriminatory actions.

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            • Covadonga says:

              I don’t like the idea of government granting licenses to internet companies, which it can then yank if they don’t knuckle under to its regulations.

              It goes against our founding principles, it goes against free market economics, and it’s not going to work in the long term.

              We’re not going to win every election. If we go down this path, we will realize too late that we slit our own throat the day that “Obama Administration, Part Deux” makes its debut in Washington.

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        • Johnathan Phillips Rogers says:

          They’re not holding off anything. Team Sessions needed TIME. Time to get the judges in place and time to dig up and sift through all the dirt. Mueller bought that, whether he knows it or not.

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      • John says:

        The CIA owns the MSM.Remember Ben Bradley when he said”We print what we are told to print”

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    • John says:

      Why do you think China bribed all those politicians.Not a very good investment under Trump.

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  4. Does not bluff indeed! I have watched Trump since the 80s. He plans his attack (and Presidency) with precision and patience. When he shoots one across his target’s bow it’s not to scare them- it’s to let them know it’s time to cooperate or die.

    Game on ChiComs!

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    • But we gotta hold the House, else all is lost.

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    • MelH says:

      I admired the “precision and patience” of Trump-Tweets, but worry about him Tweeting this morning that Omarosa is a dog. That’s an insult to dogs, but the left is ragging that Tweet to death, to prove him “unfit” just like Omarosa says.

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      • Guffman says:

        Megyn Kelly: “You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals…”

        GEOTUS: “Only Rosie O’Donnell…. and Omarosa!”

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        • Dutchman says:

          Exactly, didn’t work then, won’t work now. They called several of his predecessors “Teflon”, cause nothing seemed to stick.

          He is more like the “I’m rubber, your glue” President.
          He called someone a dog, who everyone agrees IS a dog.
          Meanwhile, DNC-Chair who likes to play rock’m sock’m with at least 2 previous girlfriends, gets re-elected, easily. And 10,000 more former democrats walk away.
          “If he walked on water, they would criticise him for being unable to swim”.

          So quit worrying, mel.This is not a gentleman’s game, this is a mugging in an alley. You fight to win, or you DIE.
          SCREW marques of Queensbury rules.

          Pretty tired of “nice”, don’t offend cause THAT’S what got us fighting for our country, and so close to the precipice. No offence but grow a pair, and get with the program.

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          • G. Combs says:

            “….You fight to win, or you DIE.
            SCREW marques of Queensbury rules…..”

            And I am SOOOoooo glad to see someone with balls of titanium willing to actually FIGHT for my country.

            I do not give a Demon- Rats behind that people might think MY President is brash, boastful, uncouth or what ever. He is MY Magnificent B@$tard! And boy did this country need one!

            Gail 😉

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  5. hdpman says:

    I agree Turranos but I have to say I’m sick to death of having to say that every election. I’m tired of holding my nose and now that VSG is here I can really smell my RINO Walden

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  6. Even if we didn’t hold the house, it isn’t going to necessarily stop Trump. As it stands now, most of the Republicans are against him, and always have been. He’s still going to be president for 2 years then get re-elected for four more. And there will be another mid term. But I don’t see how we could not gain seats – who would vote Democrat at this point? I’m just saying that everything doesn’t depend on it. They would need a massive sweep in order to do anything and even then, they would need 2/3 of the house plus 2/3 of the senate plus Pence to even bring impeachment charges let alone convict! A trial could take years.

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  7. A2 says:

    Lots of (outside) media speculation about Emperor Xi facing some pushback at Beidaihe, particularly from the ‘old guard’ party elites aligned with Deng Xiaoping’s reform policies that essentially Winnie the Pooh has reversed.

    This may be just another ‘100 Flowers’ campaign or the old luring the snakes from their holes ( 引蛇出洞) to get critics to out themselves then off with their heads. Time will tell, but it seems for now according to the CCP controlled press they are doubling down on the ‘trade war’ accusing the US of containment policies or ‘cold war mentality’. This last bit of propaganda is ironic as it was the ‘cold war mentality’ that Washington had to open up China to thwart the Soviet Union.

    So on to some interesting articles on the economy:

    “For China’s workers, the first five years of Xi Jinping’s rule (2013–2018) were characterised by slower economic growth, the decline of traditional industries such as manufacturing and mining, a rapid growth in service industries, and the increasing use of flexible or precarious labour.”

    http://www.chinoiresie.info/chinas-labour-movement-in-transition/

    This is rather ironic also, as the US under President Trump is reversing exactly that trend whilst China is now doing the opposite.

    There has also been an unusually high number of resignations in the Ministry of Commerce that may hinder China’s Trade War management with the US.
    http://www.mofcom.gov.cn/article/ae/ai/201807/20180702770051.shtml

    That’s all for now.

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    • A2 says:

      Forgot a few items.

      Does China face a looming debt crisis? | ChinaPower Project
      “In recent years, Chinese leaders have turned to using debt to fuel growth, but this approach has contributed to growing financial vulnerabilities.
      China’s corporate debt rose sharply from 106% of GDP in 2006 to 166% of GDP in 2016. Find out if China faces a debt crisis”

      https://chinapower.csis.org/china-face-looming-debt-crisis/

      “Burn the books and bury the scholars’ an old Chinese standby.

      “Chinese intellectuals urged to toe the party line after pushbacks on policy
      Amid rising tide of discontent, Communist Party tells universities and research institutes to promote ‘patriotic striving spirit’ among academics”

      (Excerpt)
      “An extensive campaign to “enhance patriotism” among intellectuals is being rolled out in China amid an escalating trade war with the US and a rising tide of discontent from its liberal thinkers.”
      https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2158679/chinese-intellectuals-urged-toe-party-line-after

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      • wheatietoo says:

        Communists always pervert the idea of ‘patriotism’ and use it for their own purposes.

        To the ChiComs, ‘patriotism’ is loyalty to the communist party…*not* to the country of China.

        Loyalty to the Govt…is not the same thing, as…Loyalty to the Country.
        There is a big difference.

        When Pres Trump talks of ‘patriotism’, he is talking about love of our country and loyalty to our people as a whole.
        He’s not talking about Loyalty to the Govt.
        He bashes our Govt on a regular basis.

        When Pres Trump says “America First”…he is talking about putting the interests of our people first, period.

        When the ChiComs say “China First”…they are talking about putting the interests of their communist party first.

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        • A2 says:

          Yes indeed. You just need to read the 19th Party Congress report. You see, the Party IS China and vice versa under XI ‘Mao Zedong’ Jinping. That is why in English we use Party/State when referring to the gov. of China.

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        • Some Old Guy says:

          Sounds like our press, except they’re committed to leftist ideology.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      That first article is good, thank you. Could not determine – is the writer writing from within China, or using Chinese data and reports from China?

      As for the second article – lolol. Not fair! But funny. Thx for the laugh. Fool me once…
      (for those who did not follow A2’s second link – is entirely in Chinese)

      Heard Gordon Chang last night. Chang says the Chinese investors are also protesting down in the banking sector and in front of the Ministry of Corruption, specifically on the failure of P2P lending (Peer To Peer). Although illegal, apparently China has turned a blind eye, and people are losing their money, some all their savings.

      Pres-For-Life Xi may be in a bit more trouble than China lets on. Too bad our Fake News is too busy attempting to start a war with Russia.

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      • A2 says:

        CLB (the labour report) is headquartered in Hong Kong with researchers in China. Yes they work with official publications but also onsite information gathering.

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      • Esperanza says:

        My opinion “presidents for life” are always in trouble. Seems to me China just got itself the worst of two worlds, Communism coupled with old fashioned dictatorship.

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      • cattastrophe says:

        Our news can’t report on anything of value about China because they don’t have the intellectual capacity to do so. They have nothing to add to the discussion. Gossip tabloids are what the majority of our news has become.

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  8. theresanne says:

    Very interesting video pointing out the Chinese relationship with Sen Diane Feinstein

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  9. Enki's Advocate says:

    I still say the only way dems can win is with voter fraud. The law they passed 34 years ago making it illegal for repubs to challenge vote fraud has been repealed. I think PDJT knows about this and they are going to get busted big-time this November.

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    • Lindenlee says:

      From your mouth to God’s ears!

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    • Reloader says:

      The Consent Decree of 1982 which prohibited the RNC from investigating Democrat Election Fraud was rescinded. And it has actually been a while since it was rescinded, so VSGPDJT has probably had a team preparing to thwart and expose Dem Fraud.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Looks like that nasty ‘Consent Decree’ is gone and President Trump would certainly be aware of it.

        November 5, 2016DNC v. RNC Consent Decree — Brennan Center for Justice NYU School of Law

        […]On October 26, 2016, the DNC filed a motion asking that the court find the RNC had violated the decree. On November 5, after abbreviated discovery, the district court denied the DNC’s request, ruling that the DNC had not provided sufficient evidence of coordination between the Trump campaign and the RNC on ballot-security operations, but will allow the DNC to offer further evidence after the election.

        Related Court Documents
        2016
        Order Denying Request to Extend Decree (11/05/2016)
        RNC’s Memorandum in Opposition to Order to Show Cause (10/31/2016)
        DNC’s Memorandum in Support of Order to Show Cause (10/26/2016)

        Order Denying Request to Extend Decree (11/05/2016)

        […]Following its analysis, the Court agreed that modifications to the Consent Decree were appropriate, including the following:
        (1) only the parties to the Decree could bring an action to redress a violation of the agreement;

        (2) a reduction in the preclearance period from twenty to ten days;

        (3) a better definition of “ballot security”;

        (4) a definition of “normal poll-watch function”; and

        (5) a definitive expiration date of December 17, 2017, unless the DNC proved in the interim that the RNC violated the Decree, in which case the Decree would be extended an additional eight years.[…]

        😁

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    • Dutchman says:

      Gee, I don’t know,../
      You know who the bank robbers are,..

      You know which bank they are gonna rob,..

      You know when they are gonna rob it,…

      You know all this, cause they have been doing it, every 2 years, same time, same station for like,…forever.

      So tell me, HOW do you implement a National campaign of voter fraud, without leaving; a paper trail.
      An electronic communications trail.
      A $ trail.
      Don’t think you can.

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    • They need to stop the fraud before it happens. It’s too late once the elections happen, since challenges for fraud would take years to litigate.

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  10. namberak says:

    “In a typical Beijing maneuver Chairman Xi appears to be counting on the stupidity of the American voter to help China …” As H.L. Mencken is reputed to have said, ‘No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.’ :-/

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  11. A2 says:

    OK I can’t help myself. The President is leading the parade:

    “France, Germany, Italy, and the UK are strengthening their economic defences against China. Will more follow?”

    (Excerpt, but you should read the entire article)

    “The European Union looks set to adopt an investment screening mechanism soon. This is welcome news, not least for addressing the imbalance between China’s ability to buy almost at will in Europe and its own tight controls on European investments into China. But something more immediately momentous is currently unfolding in the four biggest economies in Europe: by the end of 2018, France, Germany, Italy, and the United Kingdom will all have taken important steps to protect economic assets from foreign takeovers. This unprecedented securitisation of foreign investment is a response to China’s plan to create global innovative industrial champions for itself, including in the defence sector. Will the rest of Europe now converge on this type of defensive approach? The answer will shape Europe-China relations, and could have important ramifications for the success of China’s stated ambitions.”

    https://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_europes_china_vetoes_investment

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    • wheatietoo says:

      The irony is…that Chinese control of those EU countries would be far less devastating than the Islamic control that they have welcomed in with open arms.

      Neither one is good, of course.
      Both the ChiComs and the Islamists are totalitarian control freaks who brutally punish people who disagree with them.

      But at least the ChiComs have embraced Western ways…whereas the Islamists are still stuck in the 12th century.
      😀

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      • Dutchman says:

        Bullshirt,
        The panda mask is to give the appearance of embracing western ways, that’s all.

        And yes, this common thread of CORRUPT totalitarian control freaks, is the ONLY way to explain the otherwise inexplicable bond between delusionocrats and islam.
        You know, the “islamaphobia” b.s.

        I’m the end, AT THE HIGHEDT LEVELS, in both conmunism and islam, they don’t believe the ideology. They can’t as, AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS, they are betraying the tenets of their ideology, i.e. corruption.
        Therefore, for both, the ideology is to deceive the second layer, the true believers, and the third layer, the useful idiots.
        At the top, there is little difference between Iran’s mullahs, China’s leadership, and the Uniparty.

        They spout the rhetoric, but they don’t believe it, for a minute.

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        • wheatietoo says:

          The ChiComs don’t force women to wear burkas…and completely subjugate their women, the way the Islamists do.

          That’s what I was referring to, Dutch.

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    • Dutchman says:

      This is like the position shift people have noticed, with Graham; it’s called “enlightened self interest”, and VSG tends to bring it out in people, and nations.

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  12. A2 says:

    One more 😀

    If you read nothing else read this article in the Delhi Defense Review.
    “China’s Digital Rise and India’s Digital Jeopardy”. It directly relates to the above post by Sundance)

    (excerpt)

    “China is establishing a security surveillance state beyond the wildest dreams of Nazi Germany and their technology companies are at the forefront of making it a reality, either willfully or under President Jinping’s pressure. President Jinping has repeatedly called for the use of modern technology to establish public security and safety. From Intrusive checks including installation of a monitoring app called Jingwang (“Clean Internet”) on phones, to scanning for media that might be classified as “dangerous”, no stone is being left unturned as part the new security push in Xinjiang. Scanners that can scan mobile phones and laptops are also in use currently in Xinjiang and across other regions in China to identify “dangerous” media. Given the crackdown on naming children, confiscating religious material and restricting religious practice, “dangerous” in the Chinese context is somewhat self-explanatory. At a recent Beijing security fair, scanners that could crack smartphone security as well other surveillance devices were on display. Reuters learned that several firms were able to crack earlier versions of electronics major Apple’s iOS operating system and were working to break the current version. China already has massively penetrated homegrown social media, after shutting out foreign alternatives. Given the influence exerted by the Chinese government over tech companies within the country, it is difficult to not assume that they will also be utilized for such purposes overseas with a view to advancing Chinese interests.”

    http://www.delhidefencereview.com/2018/07/16/chinas-digital-rise-and-indias-digital-jeopardy/

    When Emperor Xi was at the China-Arab States Cooperation Forum a few weeks ago, he said this: “中国还将同地区国家探讨实施总额为10亿元人民币的项目,支持有关国家维稳能力建设” (“China will investigate extending a total of one billion yuan to countries in the region, to support the relevant countries build ‘social stability’ capacity”.) Read the above article to understand what ‘social stability capacity means’. Exporting Orwell with Chinese characteristics.
    http://www.xinhuanet.com/2018-07/10/c_1123105156.htm

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    • Jedi9 says:

      THIS! You are absolutely on this A2!

      I have been a dog whistle when specifically talking about China’s strategy to go full Orwellian state and importing their tech to other countries! The US better start wising up to the deep state’s motives! This is how they are strategizing to have control and to steal info. Having lived in China, and recently witnessing their new Bio-metrics facial recognition tech in their immigration process, as well as their recent social credit score system, this is very alarming indeed has an uneasy feel. The biggest concern that I have is recently I noticed they are more and more going to a cashless society by implementing their “wechat” pay system. This is a very troubling development that needs to be exposed relentlessly! People need to start wising up to this blatant assault on civil liberties and privacy exploitation by both the CHICOMS and the Deep State! Apple should also be in the cross hairs as well as other American tech companies who may be compromised! But more importantly the CHICOMS trying to sneakily make deals with other countries to undermine US interests with their selling of tech should be given priority to defend against, as new tech develops so does the new ways to defend against Chinese economic aggression! Trade tariffs will not be enough!

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    • Reloader says:

      I studied Russian in college, and for the reason that one should “know thine enemy.” (Sun Su?) More recently, I have studied Chinese on my own. And you can see that the first character in that phrase is the word for China (“中”).

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      • A2 says:

        Hi, 中 by itself just means middle or central. China (in general speech) is a compound word, 中国 means China (literally central or middle kingdom i.e. ‘state’. Like 美國 (beautiful country) their name for the USA, or 法國 for France etc.)

        I provided the translation after the quote,

        Keep studying, but be warned, it is a ‘long march’ 长征.

        😀

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  13. Fools Gold says:

    If I’m down $800B/year with Panda and know I have all the winning cards that can’t be beat, I guarantee you I’m upping the stakes Dec 1 and watching Chinese fireworks Jan 1…

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    • Dutchman says:

      “I brought you into this world, I can take you out”, lol.
      It was only a massive lobbying effort by Billy boy and others in the U.S. that got them in.

      Presumably, there is a way to boot them out, however there is also making the WTO irrelevent, which VSG- is doing, somewhat.

      In BI-LATERAL trade agreements, don’t need WTO nearly as much as in multi-lateral.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      China still enjoys the designation of “Developing Country”, which gives it special considerations in trade agreements.

      But China has nuclear weapons and a space program…as well as modern, bustling cities.
      It really doesn’t fit the criteria for being designated as a ‘developing country’, even though there are areas of China that are still living in primitive conditions.

      The WTO has some basic ‘rules’ about trade between member countries.
      China has been breaking some of those rules, outright…as well as cheating on pretty much all of them.

      Problem is, the WTO has not been enforcing it’s own rules.
      The US is the only country that has Not been breaking those rules, or cheating.

      If the US finally started demanding that all the other WTO members play by the WTO rules…then on that basis, the WTO could expel the members who don’t comply.

      That is why it is truly laughable when Canada and the EU claim that they will get the WTO to make Pres Trump do what they want.
      They are the ones who have been breaking the WTO’s rules…not the US.

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      • Jedi9 says:

        Not to mention it was the Us who wrote the WTO rules! Imagine the irony in all of this! Its simply beautiful to behold!

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        • brenrod says:

          didnt we also write the UN rules?

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          • Covadonga says:

            That was Alger Hiss (representing USSR) and a South African guy who wanted the other countries not to be able to use the UN as a forum for forcing RSA to scale back Apartheid.

            Soviets (Stalin) liked that, because same rules shielded communism from external attempts at reform.

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  14. Bavak says:

    If they could feed themselves, they would.

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  15. Pyrthroes says:

    First Reagan in Berlin, now Trump is “tearing down the ChiCom wall”. From crony socialism to full-blown Lenin-Stalin/Maoist Communism, for good demographic reason two 36-year socio-cultural eras –72 years total– generally suffice to topple Churchill’s “dictators on their pedestals, ruling with the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police.”

    From 1917 to ’89, Sovietism lasted just this interval; from Mao’s ascent in 1948, we give Comrade Xi (Wade-Giles’ far better “Ch’i”) ’til 2020 before klepto-collectivities roll their last gutterball. By this token, the much-contemned UN (which succeeded the equally malfeasant League in 1946) is due to deliquesce at any time.

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  16. brenrod says:

    Will the tariffs really hurt china? They were already getting more expensive and needed to shift away from an export only driven economy. I expect their currency to go down against the dollar which will make them more competitive in the global market against our dollar and might even cushion some of the tariffs into the USA. I expect they will seek to work with energy producer states to keep their factories going. I expect them to double down on military expenditure into hardware expansion and personnel to keep folks employed, to keep more folks under control mentally and economically and to expand their military adventures; this will also aid in controlling their population while they shift gears. I think they will seek to expand all their relationships with the developing world, Russia, Turkey and energy producers. Their policy of getting a foothold into almost every nation on earth… especially in the shipping and transport sectors should be carefully watched. I expect them to roll with the punches… adjust to a different set of conditions and go for the least harmful situation with the USA while continuing in all their other endeavors.

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    • Zippy says:

      “They were already getting more expensive and needed to shift away from an export only driven economy.”

      World market growth is stagnant and with the rising dollar effects on emerging markets, it will get even worse. The Chinese NEED to make their DOMESTIC market more consumer oriented, but they’re economically decelerating, too.

      The biggest contagion risk to U.S. stocks isn’t Turkey — it’s an already-deteriorating China

      https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-biggest-contagion-risk-to-us-stocks-isnt-turkey-its-an-already-deteriorating-china-2018-08-15

      “I expect their currency to go down against the dollar which will make them more competitive in the global market against our dollar and might even cushion some of the tariffs into the USA.”

      If it goes down, it will be another devaluation made BY China. HOWEVER, last time they did that, there was major capital flight from China. They have a worse economic outlook now, so the capital flight would likely be even worse. PLUS, the negative trade effects that devaluation would have against ALL of their trading partners would give much more incentive for them ALL to unite AGAINST China in sync with the US.

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  17. brenrod says:

    I dont expect dramatic changes in china… I expect they have planned for situations like this and export reduction to first world in general. They will increase their third world business.

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  18. Olorin says:

    > Nervous Pandas Get Twitchy Watching Shrinking Bamboo Forest…

    Joking about environmental destruction and species extinction is PRC-tier.

    I expect better from TCH. Conservationism is the fundamental stance of conservatism. White people love nature.

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