July 25th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #552

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1,464 Responses to July 25th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #552

  1. Sandra-VA says:

    Do these people really think they would be able to act like this in a “fascist state”?

    Unreal.

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  2. Publius2016 says:

    its true! President Trump is the master troll!

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    • Publius2016 says:

      “President Trump’s longtime fixer Michael Cohen recorded a conversation with CNN reporter Chris Cuomo earlier this year in which he said he arranged “on my own” a $130,000 payment in 2016 to Stormy Daniels, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.”

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    • WeThePeople2016 says:

      “President Trump’s longtime fixer Michael Cohen recorded a conversation with CNN reporter Chris Cuomo earlier this year in which he said he arranged “on my own” a $130,000 payment in 2016 to Stormy Daniels, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.”

      CNN ran for weeks that Trump knew about the payment yet Cuomo heard it directly from Cohen that he did it on his own. I don’t understand, though, why Cohen said he wasn’t taping when he actually did tape the conversation.

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      • Publius2016 says:

        Cuomo is a LIAR!

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      • KittyKat says:

        I thought the taped conversation was a about another woman, not Stormy.

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        • Publius2016 says:

          theres more than one tape, theres more than one woman and theres more than one reporter!

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        • As these stories develop, it can get a little confusing. The way it stands at the moment there are 12 known tapes indicated to be about various topics directly related to the President.

          The only one revealed so far to have Mr. Trump’s voice on it discusses the payment scheme (with references to “David”, the National Enquirer publisher) to Karen McDougall, the playmate who said she and Trump had a one-year affair. This is the tape CNN has been playing, and of course it’s the one on the evening news.

          Another different tape, the one being discussed by Publius and others above, is in regard to Stormy Daniels and her hush money. But since it is looking like Cohen made lots of recordings of his calls and meetings, we may well hear about other tapes over time.

          The thing everyone on the tapes (except Cohen) is unhappy about is that they did not know they were being recorded. This is legal in New York, but not a very ethical behavior. People generally don’t like being recorded without their knowledge and permission. But there’s little anyone can do about that, except to avoid hiring Michael Cohen in future.

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          • WSB says:

            Unless POTUS happened to be in Florida.

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          • Deb says:

            Isn’t sharing a recording between a lawyer and his client a breach of attorney client privelage?

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            • Good question. The short answer is that it depends. “Fixing” (hush money payments) could come under the general heading of business consultation. Business-related communications about money handling are not necessarily subject to attorney-client privilege. Neither is any kind of discussion attached to a crime or fraud (why it’s called the “crime/fraud exemption). Not everything discussed between a lawyer and client is protected by privilege, only matters directly connected to some form of legal filing, a specific case, or a lawsuit.

              Bill Clinton’s “bimbo eruptions” would not have been covered if his lawyers had been recording him secretly, and neither are these tapes. It is unfortunate that Cohen was so fond of taping. It might be enlightening for us outsiders to hear, but it’s a betrayal of his clients’ confidence.

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    • WSB says:

      This maybe…

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    • I don’t trust Cohen, but Trump knows that every time the media puts out Karen McDougal stories his approval rating goes up.

      If the MSM wants to keep putting up her picture next to Trump’s picture, he might be at 70% approval by October.

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  3. BillRiser says:

    I was hoping that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo would have said ” I can guarantee that President Trump did not say”, “I can be more flexible after this next election, Mr. Putin” Senator Flake!

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  5. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  6. phoenixRising says:

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  7. phoenixRising says:

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    • phoenixRising says:

      Maybe it will work and Speaker Ryan will be gone in the fall .;-)

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      • Landslide says:

        Maybe we’ll get a double bonus and they’ll both be gone.👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸

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      • Blade says:

        No, it will not work. The Vacate The Chair motion is a House action obviously, there is no Senate involvement. Impeachment requires a majority vote in the House and then 2/3 in the Senate trial to convict.

        Impeaching Rosenstein? It would only work if he was pro-America, anti-Wall Street, pro-Tariff, pro-Second Amendment, anti-Amnesty; pro-Wall, anti-Illegal Alien. To my knowledge he is none of those things. Hence, he is perfectly safe on the merits.

        As Rosenstein’s pro-Trump bonafides are unclear at best, and has successfully maintained this gray hat appearance, the House and Senate anti-Trumpers would never gamble on removing him. Consequently, this motion by Meadows carries the same weight as a Sense Of Congress resolution against global warming, or supporting their beloved intelligence agencies’ anti-Russian propaganda.

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        • ForGodandCountry says:

          True.

          Kabuki theater.

          I think this was more aimed at boxing Paul Ryan into a corner and boosting Jim Jordan’s chances of becoming Speaker.

          And I should know, because I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

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        • WSB says:

          Agreed, Blade. However, I do vaguely recall Rosenstein saying that he signed off on a FISA but no one would know exactly what he signed off on.

          Is it possible, that the FISA Rosenstein did sign has a completely different directive?

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          • Blade says:

            They really are hammering his signature as if it means Rosenstein is responsible for the contents of everything in the FISA application. But very few documents you sign work that way, and AG and DAG are administrative jobs. These guys are in Congress, they make law. If the post 9/11 spying statutes shove all the responsibility of the validity of the contents to AG or DAG then they would explicitly state that. The truth is, like in most cases, there is no controlling legal authority and no single person to blame. That’s the American way. Those post 9/11 patriot act and later updates are abominations but business as usual.

            If Rosenstein’s signature merits such a full court press from Congressional conservatives, then why aren’t they subpoenaing Roberts and the specific FISA judges too? Oh they’ll get the same answer, no controlling legal authority, but why not try? So their concentration on Rosenstein morphs into obsession and in the end makes him sympathetic. Meanwhile the conservative caucus looks unhinged from their gaslighting and grandstanding. It is an election year, and Congress does bloviate a lot, but this seems excessive even to me.

            So maybe it stems from the alleged threat against staffers. I have no doubt something happened, but I refuse to take Jordan and Meadows word as gospel ( they were NOT there ). They are exaggerating in my opinion and I suspect Rosenstein said something like how would you feel if I got ahold of all your phone calls. That quote goes to Greg Jarrett and gets blown out of proportion. What I think is going on is that just like Wolfe and the Senate committee, there are House members also getting rolled up in the 20+ leak investigations, likely whoever is informing Sara Carter and John Solomon. And IMHO the members are trying to get ahead of the reveal.

            As I said, nothing they are doing in the Congress kabuki shows is getting us any new information. We are not getting any real answers. When Nunes cries about DoJ withholding documents ( having received only 1/4 of 1.2 million ), no-one even asks him if they are truly denied access to the documents ( can he just go to the SCIF at DoJ like he did in the White House? ). And again, why not just bring all those damn judges into Congress and ask them? We are truly at peak stupid in every way.

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        • Iron Lady says:

          Maybe it would help to justify a firing. ?

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          • Blade says:

            That’s possible, but the impeachment vote is of members of the very audience who they would be trying to justify the firing to. In other words, if they vote to impeach and remove it removes the very need for firing, if they fail to impeach or acquit then firing has no support anyway.

            This action is kabuki and unwise since Jordan and Meadows know full well they have no votes. Perhaps that is part of a master plan? I doubt it. These are the same guys that sunk all of President Trump’s wasted capital, the entire first year of his administration, on repeal and replace of Obamacare by pushing for repeal only and sinking the watered down compromise. Still cannot believe that one. ( they could have came back and fixed it this year rather than handing Trump a defeat ).

            I’ve been warning people about getting invested too heavily into the fake “Constitutional” oversight debate and demanding that DoJ surrender to Congress because come January 3rd if God forbid roles are reversed and Speaker Pelosi and Leader Schumer demand documents they will not have America’s best interest at heart. Their goal will be to handcuff and neutralize the administration and make the Executive branch subservient as they did each and every year prior to 1995 to (R)epub Presidents and during the last few years of Bush43.

            Impeaching executive branch officials for this fake oversight tradition is a step worse than that though. Imagine the (D)ems taking out Ross, Zinke, Pompeo, Sessions for the same reasons that Jordan, Gaetz, Gohmert and Meadows are yelling about for Rosenstein. We’ve seen this movie many times before.

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    • WeThePeople2016 says:

      Chad Pergram is such a D.C. snarky beltway creature. Pergram hopes that the impeachment does not work on RR. You can see it in his words.

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  8. patrickhenrycensored says:

    A retweet

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  10. Troublemaker10 says:

    MN wants it’s money back from the Obamacare architect.

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  11. Marica says:

    Stealth Jeff on twitter has an interesting take–Rosie needed to stall for Huber and Horowitz to get all material needed for airtight cases. So he redacted a bunch of stuff. HE has a “part to play” as the black hat..Now that Congress is formally calling for impeachment, he will begin rolling out unredacted docs -thus keeping POTUS from having to get involved…
    just a theory– don’t be mean–I am not agreeing or disagreeing–just throwing it out there…

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    • Troublemaker10 says:

      Not a bad theory.

      I don’t think they have the votes to impeach Rosenstein anyway.

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    • For Eyes says:

      Not buying that 64D chess theory. If Huber needed time but was progressing toward indictments then all he’d have to do is whisper and wink and the White Hats would just give him time. The fact that White Hats are so fed up is actually an indication there has been no suggestion to them that Huber / Sessions have any good news planned for them.

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      • Marica says:

        Sorry 4 eyes– Who the HELL do YOU trust in Senate or House? I don’t trust 1 single person -even NUNES–ya know WHY? too many Deep STATE admin lowlifes surround them alll–THis IS WAR– DOn’t trust a single soul—

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    • Congress is not “formally calling for impeachment”. Since it was not filed as a “privileged” action, Jordan and Meadows can’t even force a vote on it. The House is about to recess, therefore this matter can’t even come to the floor until September, and Ryan will remain in control over whether or not it does then.

      IMO, it’s a PR move for the midterms, red meat for the base but intentionally designed to go nowhere but into a news cycle.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      a good theory Marica…

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    • ladypenquin says:

      I’m not fond of the “impeachment” call. Still think there are hidden things which need to play out.

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  12. Blade says:

    9:00 pm and Hannity is coming on. Hmmm, as Cohen’s longtime friend there is no-one better positioned than Hannity to pick up the phone, call his buddy and get some facts put on record. Will he? Should I hold my breath?

    Watching the ‘important opening monologue’ now. My prediction is that we will hear much gaslighting and not gain a single fact. We don’t even know if the tape is of a call or in-person. Hannity, call Cohen! Invite him on the show again. Tell us his response to the invitation.

    And stop playing clips of the Enemedia who we go out of our way to avoid in the first place!

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    • I doubt he will follow your advice, Hannity has built up a trusted relationship with a lot of white hats. He knows a lot more than he can say.
      I know he can be repetitive and too hyper to let others make their case before he interrupts, but I would not underestimate his wisdom and knowledge about what is going on.

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      • Blade says:

        So far his show is 100% commentary, with the usual talking heads, interchangeable with yesterday, the day before, or any day of the week. That means his ‘big breaking news day’ should be renamed to ‘breaking commentary’.

        This Cohen story presents a big problem for Hannity because if he cannot get answers to obvious questions we have, and he sure can get the answers by simply picking up the phone and calling Mike Cohen ( refusal to talk with him is itself an answer we need ) then really what can ever be believed about Hannity for the myriad other subjects where he has no direct source.

        If, as you say, he knows more than he is saying, well that does not help his case at all. It lowers the trust ceiling substantially. We need facts, not competing commentary to balance out the fact-free propaganda on the other networks.

        :35 minutes in and treading water. Rudy has added no facts. If this show wasn’t on right now and was just pulled up at random you would never know the date since it is 100% interchangeable with every other day.

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        • Marica says:

          Blade– Pull the news plug–read treehouse and Twitter feeds and watch reruns of Last Man Standing, Lucy and Big Bang …
          I did a few months ago..Winning.Every.Day.
          PS– Hannity and Dobbs and TUck aren’t bad guys–just swimming upstream in a dirty swamp…

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          • Blade says:

            Well in fairness I am watching it one on TV with sound off but captions on.

            The other TV has Ozzy and Jack on A&E. It is much more informative.

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            • Marica says:

              LOL BLADE!! maybe just go with 1 TV 😉 or turn Captions off?

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            • WSB says:

              I like the two TV thing, but you might as well have Vegas Poker Finals on one and Canadian shippers at the Meadowlands on the other one.

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              • Blade says:

                Yep! Personally I prefer car porn, but for some damn reason Discovery is obsessed with sharks this week, History and BBC with animal snuff films, and well, no auto shows anywhere to be found 😦

                Horrible choices. But the worst part is scrupulously avoiding the main Enemedia kook shows only to have countless clips of them shoved in my face on FNC during the rare times I bother to tune in! It is amazing that they do this, and no doubt the Fox producers think it makes their hosts look better, or they are massively lazy programmers, but if they had access to granular viewer metrics showing when they clicked off the channel it would not be going on this long.

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                • WSB says:

                  Hillaryous! Similar frustrations.

                  My tree grew larger than the clearance of my satellite at the back on the roof, and I now reduce myself to Twilight Zone episodes tonight as we have epic rain in the Hudson Valley.

                  I may consider poetry, piano or singing again.

                  I know, learn to build a fire by blowing on straw…I know.

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        • ForGodandCountry says:

          And THAT is why I don’t watch Hannity. All hot air, precious little substance.

          About the only thing that can be said for him is, he’s on our side.

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        • “If, as you say, he knows more than he is saying, well that does not help his case at all. It lowers the trust ceiling substantially.”

          That is reverse reality, being trustworthy lowers trust?
          Sounds like a media matters talking point.

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          • Blade says:

            That is reverse reality, being trustworthy lowers trust?
            Sounds like a media matters talking point.

            Huh? What is trustworthy about “knowing more than he is saying”? You lost me. Let me try again …

            If he knows something and is not saying it, and instead just offers up a panel of talking heads to blab about something that we have no facts in the first place, then what the heck is the point of the show in the first place? Comprende?

            Let’s cut to the chase here. Hannity has a relationship with Mike Cohen. He can pick up the phone and get answers or get shut out. Either response is what we want to know about.

            Cohen was a fierce defender of Trump. He was the one who went after and appeared on Megyn Kelly when she dropped the Ivana ‘rape’ bomb on Fox ( prior to the first primary debate ). He was the one going after online attackers of Melania and Ivanka and Trump. If he got turned then we need to know. Hannity either knows that answer or does not. Why has Hannity not answered that simple point?

            When a person is portrayed as an expert on a particular subject, self-described or by others, there always comes a time for that person to prove his expertise. That time has come for Hannity with his proximity to his friend Mike Cohen.

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        • Deb says:

          What makes you think Cohen would take the call? It’s obvious Cohen is in it for Cohen. You don’t tape your friends for no reason, he wanted leverage for something.

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          • Blade says:

            But we’re speculating, we have no evidence except that there is a recording … of something.

            “What makes you think Cohen would take the call?” I think no such thing. But make the call Hannity, tell us what happens. If Cohen refuses to talk to his old friend then THAT is an item of evidence, a small one, but it is something.

            We don’t even know if Cohen taping his calls is unusual or not. It is possible that it is his SOP, to protect all parties for example ( yes, it can even protect the client ). But here we are 24+ hours later and we don’t even know the circumstances of the recording! All these shows and I don’t think a single person has even asked if this was a phone call or an in-person conversation!

            Yes, you don’t normally do such things to friends, I agree. The sad part is that we cannot even say that is what happened here. And as far as leverage? Well you are hinting at blackmail. Very hard to believe IMHO but I sure could be wrong. The lawyer Trump employs to make gold-diggers go away turns into a gold-digger? I guess its possible, but how could he operate like this without Trump finding out?

            He was under secret service protection at the time and receiving periodic intelligence briefings. Keith, Eric, Don Jr, Flynn and Bannon still there too. Melania, Ivana and Kellyanne as well. Wasn’t anyone looking out for suspicious activity? Yes, I think they were. So there is more here than meets the eye.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      Totally agree with you Blade…
      time for Hannity to “come to the aid of his country” …

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      • Nice to find out many here are doing more, and better than Hannity. I was not aware that many here have been on the front lines nightly for many years, fighting the good fight EVERY DAY for many years. I flog you with my apathy.
        Sometimes you guys are really full of yourselves.
        Oy.

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        • Blade says:

          You sound upset that folks are holding Hannity accountable, albeit ever so barely. I wouldn’t lose sleep over it though. He’s a big boy who can take it. In fact he tells us those same words about himself, often.

          Hannity is definitely a warrior on the front lines, except for those times he is not. For example he was on the front lines attacking Roy Moore, and then receded into the shadows when the fake evidence was exposed. This one really ticks me off because he often put Geraldo Rivera on his kangaroo panel to discuss these obviously trumped up stories. Yes, Geraldo who was accused by Bette Midler of drugging and at least groping her. Roy Moore, obvious political smear character assassination, attacked by Hannity’s self-described good friend, Geraldo ( a definite groper who admitted it finally ).

          That level of hypocrisy is just unbearable to me. It shows Hannity has all the self-awareness of Clark W. Griswold. Anyone who feels obligated to defend Hannity’s honor, do me a favor and call his radio show and tell the call screener you want to discuss Geraldo and Bette Midler and would love to know why he was invited to participate in the character assassination of Roy Moore without at least a disclaimer. What’s next, Fox hiring Bernie Madoff on their business channel?

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          • Easy to sit at a keyboard and criticize guys on the front lines taking the arrows. Nobody is perfect, Hannity gets on my nerves sometimes, so does Rush when they quote and play crap from cnn (who cares?) but these guys, I don’t know how they live this shi7 7 days a week, I could not do it. I get overloaded and stay off here, my fav. site sometimes for days.
            Anyway, patriots can disagree I guess…..
            peace. Out.

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          • Deb says:

            Holding Hannity accountable? Please. I appreciate Hannity because he praised PDJT when no one else dared too. That doesn’t mean he’s perfect.

            I could care less about Cohen. He’s obviously not a loyal person, and so I’m assuming he’s a snake. He probably has no desire to speak to Hannity.

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            • Blade says:

              Nothing’s obvious until we have evidence Deb. Hannity had Mike Cohen on earlier this year I believe discussing the raid on his office. He even led with the disclaimer that Mike gave him real estate advice unpaid. He said they go back at least ten years ( could have been longer ). All these are facts, and they demand that Hannity call him up and tell us what happens, including if Cohen refuses to speak with him.

              I appreciate Hannity because he praised PDJT when no one else dared too.

              Compared to all of us who supported Trump since 3 years ago, Hannity was a real latecomer. He wasn’t a Cruztard or anything, but was pretty neutral until it was clear that Cruz could not win in May 2016. So by my count he was a year late with his praise. [ this isn’t criticism btw, just the facts ] He signed up earlier than Rudy did though. Rudy was still pretty much scoffing at Trump’s prospects until the primary was nearly over. [ again, not a criticism ]

              You can defend Hannity or not, whatever. I’m pretty specific in criticizing him, Dobbs and Hoft at Gaslight Pundit, as well as Pirro and Jarrett. And it is about gaslighting versus evidence. We don’t need “rightwing” counterparts to the leftwing kooks. We need facts and evidence as much as possible and the people I named do not traffic in facts and evidence much these days.

              And you want a good example of where gaslighting leads? Post-9/11 Hannity was incessantly bullet-pointing us with his Jaimie Gorelick Wall shtick having somehow caused FBI to fail to catch wind of the hijackers. That cheerleading led to Patriot Act acceptance by millions of conservatives and the expansion of FBI into the national security domain and here we are. So Hannity rightly lectures us nightly about FBI spying on Team Trump but without the self-awareness demanded from someone who led the charge to accepting in the first place.

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  13. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  14. PotP says:

    Simple question:

    If Cohen is caught up in an apolitical government investigation…

    Why did he hire the most political lawyer (Lanny) of his bosses political opponent? (HRC)

    Who is paying Lanny’s fees?

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  15. Trumps Secretary of State Pompeo’s hardest job is not dealing with corrupt foreign leaders, it is dealing with our own low character and corrupt Senators like Menendez.

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  16. patrickhenrycensored says:

    Wolf Blitzer Demands Apology from WH for Blocking CNN’s Kaitlan Collins from Event…….
    Funny guy!

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  17. America is divorcing the left and it has turned into a bitter divorce battle.
    The Democrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee are the divorce lawyers for the left, but there is no judge to keep them from lying.

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  18. Gil says:

    What is going on with Fakebooke stock after hours? Massive plunge! Is this a one off or connected to POTUS policies? Not sure how to analyze it.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/facebook-stock-crushed-after-revenue-user-growth-miss-2018-07-25

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  19. Troublemaker10 says:

    Former GM Exec: President Trump’s Trade Policy Will Make U.S. ‘Winner’ on Trade
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/25/former-gm-exec-president-trumps-trade-policy-will-make-u-s-winner-on-trade/

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  22. Greg C says:

    Just something hilarious for y’all, in case you missed it. Yesterday (Tequila Day) on Fox News Lisa Kennedy was fixin up a drink she called “The Hillary”. As she was busily working on and crushing up the ingredients, someone asked why it was named The Hillary, and as she was pouring them in, she said, “Because of these here crushed blackberries”.

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  23. kea says:

    SJW being well SJW. You can’t save them. RIP Sweden

    ‘I had to do what I could’: Swedish activist who forced flight to be cancelled to stop Afghan man being deported has no regrets and wants to stop ALL deportations

    Elin Ersson, 22, bought the plane ticket after hearing the man would be deported
    The student activist refused to take her seat and filmed her 14-minute protest

    An Afghan man was eventually let off the plane but Swedish authorities have said he will be deported and she could face up to six months in prison

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5992565/Swedish-activist-forced-flight-cancelled-stop-Afghan-deported-wants-act-again.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490

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  24. big bad mike says:

    At cardiac rehab today I got to see the Fixer Upper episode where Tim Tebow pays for the. House and renovation by Chip and Joanna for a couple with two disabled children. Best thing I watched on TV since Lassie Come Home.

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