Special Counsel Mueller asks for Another Delay in Flynn Sentencing – Judge Sullivan Appears Annoyed…

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has asked for yet another delay in the sentencing of former National Security Advisor General Mike Flynn.

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The Friday filing indicates the Special Counsel requests the court to begin preparation of a pre-sentencing report.  Lawyers for both sides proposed a status update of Aug. 24th.

However, later, in a minute-order, Judge Emmet Sullivan ordered the parties to explain by noon Monday July 2nd, the reason why the Court should depart from the normal practice of getting all the sentencing issues/dates done at the same time. (h/t Techno Fog)

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441 Responses to Special Counsel Mueller asks for Another Delay in Flynn Sentencing – Judge Sullivan Appears Annoyed…

  1. Doppler says:

    The plea deal between Flynn and Mueller obligates Flynn to assist the ongoing investigation, which would include testifying against other defendants, which could take years. There’s nothing unusual about postponing sentencing repeatedly in such cases. Expect it to continue till Mueller is almost through.

    What WAS unusual in this case is that the plea was promptly followed by release of the Strzok texts, Contreras’s recusal, then new Judge Sullivan’s sua sponte order to Mueller to turn over all exculpatory evidence, which should’ve been done before. Depending on what is in that exculpatory evidence, which could include ANY AND ALL of misdeeds by Srzok, Yates, Comey, McCabe, Lynch relating to the Russia collusion story, FISA application irregularities, spygate, 302 tampering, there may be reason to allow Flynn to withdraw his plea, and for disciplinary actions against the prosecutorial team.

    What was also unusual about this latest request was the untimely request for a presentencing report, as if Mueller is about done with Flynn, while also citing the investigation as requiring further delay. That’s an inconsistency that the Judge wants explained before ordering the report by a different office. I can imagine he wants to know, and wants the Probation Office to know, what value Flynn’s bargained for cooperation had, before it recommends a sentence.

    It’s just weird, and suggests disarray in the SC’s office, as does the typo.

    Flynn was reported to have taken the plea to hold onto his savings, since to fight would quickly leave him broke. And to protect his son. He may be telling his lawyer: don’t spend any time on this at all, I can’t afford it.

    Now if Huber was running a sting, and cut a separate, secret deal with Flynn to take the plea based on incomplete or falsified Brady production, with the promise that Flynn could later withdraw it, and be exonerated, then Huber may have somebody’s ass in his briefcase, somebody who is part of the Special Counsel’s team, knew of the falsifying, yet participated in the plea deal. If so, and I hope that is the case, it’s still just a small detail in the Big Ugly, and won’t come out until the bigger pieces are ready for prime time.

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    • ZurichMike says:

      Thank you for the clear explanation and context. Much appreciated.

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    • dayallaxeded says:

      That last paragraph from your keyboard to God’s big beautiful monitor!

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    • Karl Kastner says:

      Beautiful summation counselor!

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    • safvetblog says:

      Nice “Absence of Malice” reference 👍😉

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    • vexedmi says:

      Huber will do what’s right? My doubts are astounding!

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    • Convert says:

      Posts like this– why the Treehouse is a cut above other yakety yak boards. 😃 Thanks.

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    • f.fernandez says:

      “Now if Huber was running a sting, and cut a separate, secret deal with Flynn to take the plea based on incomplete or falsified Brady production, with the promise that Flynn could later withdraw it, and be exonerated, then Huber may have somebody’s ass in his briefcase, somebody who is part of the Special Counsel’s team, knew of the falsifying, yet participated in the plea deal. If so, and I hope that is the case, it’s still just a small detail in the Big Ugly, and won’t come out until the bigger pieces are ready for prime time.”

      Home run sir. You win the internet today.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      “Now if Huber was running a sting, and cut a separate, secret deal with Flynn to take the plea based on incomplete or falsified Brady production, with the promise that Flynn could later withdraw it, and be exonerated…”

      Well that would seem to indicate that Horowitz was hot on the trail very shortly after Mueller was appointed and Huber was involved very early on (earlier than Nov 2017?) as Flynn’s plea deal was entered Dec 1,

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    • Bulldog84 says:

      “It’s just weird, and suggests disarray in the SC’s office, as does the typo.”

      The SC’s office is full of paper pushing hacks and neophyte desk jockeys, not real, experienced litigators. This is one situation in which it is showing.

      Have they tried anyone yet?

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      • mutantbeast says:

        Its also ful of antyi-american communist scumbags, including several with direct ties to the Clinton/Obama regime. Funny how most of the original “judges”(like Contreras. Kimba Wood) are insiders with scumbags like Bubba and Eric the AssHolder.

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      • TomJ says:

        I wonder what Sessions says to himself each morning when he sees the disarray in the DOJ? When he sees the constant leaking from the SC? What he sees the turmoil caused by either his recusal or failure to resign? When he sees the conflicts that both Rosenstein and Mueller have that make any conflict he had irrelevant?

        Its hard to imagine a person sitting back and allowing all this to unfold.

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      • B Woodward says:

        Mueller has several cases proceeding against Paul Manafort in an effort to bankrupt and flip him. Recently Mueller had Paul Manafort thrown in jail until his trial begins. Mueller stated that Manafort was guilty of ontacting two witnesses. I heard somewhere that Manafort was not aware of the names of Mueller’s witnesses.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884089/Manafort-appeals-jailing-civil-case-against-Mueller.html

        Mueller also has a case going against 13 Russian “trolls” and 3 Russian companies who allegedly tried to influence the 2016 election. Mueller thought this would be a slam dunk proof of Russian interference and didn’t expect any of the Russians to offer a defense. However Concord Management hired US attorneys to defend against Mueller’s charges. They also contested Mueller’s appointment, similar to Manafort. Now Mueller is trying to hide the evidence from the defendants, much of which is in Russian. Mueller has asked for a postponement of the trial in order to get his sh*t together.. .

        http://www.independentsentinel.com/muellers-russian-troll-case-is-a-farce-thats-falling-apart/

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      Outstanding analysis, Doppler.
      I saw Flynn on tv at a western campaign event in March.
      He did not appear to have a care in the world.
      I hope they didn’t provide the exculpatory Brady material. Judge Sullivan might have a criminal referral to make and a certain Bar association might be getting a professional conduct complaint.

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    • cali says:

      @Doppler: Great comment and I agree with you! 🙂

      My hunch tells me that Mueller is stuck with altered 302’s and aware that Flynn and his team knows this as well. What to do?

      Threatening not only Flynn but his family and singling out his son while his father was present as Mueller threatened him was highly criminal.

      Mueller turned Flynn into a hostile co-operating witness who is unwilling to so-operate at all since he knows exactly that Mueller expects Flynn to turn on president Trump. That’s Mueller’s spiel in a nutshell.

      The altered 302’s is a dilemma for Mueller ergo what to do: delay, delay and delay some more.

      This will come to a head this coming week – 2 July – where Mueller has to put up or shut up. Everything we have learned about Mueller’s deciple Peter Strzok raises beyond serious doubts.
      Mike Flynn on the other hand knows from the beginning the they would attempt to entrap him and played along just like Rogers did to take the swamp down from within.

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      • mutantbeast says:

        Sounds a great deal like the way Muleturd handled the Whitey Bulger situation back when he was the US Atty for Boston in the 1980s.

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        • Perot Conservative says:

          More 64D chess?

          When Flynn’s case is dropped, and we get the FISA applications and ALL Page-Strzok texts, I’ll see progress.

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      • Jederman says:

        Not sure that Stzork was necessarily Mueller’s disciple but I agree that we know from their actions (obstructing congress) and testimony that they will not give an inch. They are dug in and going all the way. They think they control the entire operation with Sessions in the penalty box for the duration.

        Congress is weak, bought and neutralized (it’s ugly to speculate but possibly blackmailed). Unless PTrump steps in somehow Mueller, with the aid of Wray and Rosenstein will limp across the finish line and be a hero to the Left.

        Of course his name will, for the rest of American history, be scheisse.

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      • 4sure says:

        “Judge T.S. Ellis denied Manafort’s motion to dismiss the case outright in the U.S. District of the Eastern District of Virginia. The judge rejected Manafort’s argument that Mueller lacked authority to prosecute him.”

        So much for thinking that Judge Ellis was some savior riding in on a white horse to save the day. Ellis was NEVER going to be the white hat that would send Mueller packing his bags. Too much hope and ignoring the past actions and not wanting to face reality of the corrupt Judicial system and DOJ who have no plans to punish any of the bad actors gets us nowhere.

        The fix is in. It’s as plain as day. The DOJ is acting like the criminal defendants they are. The defense attorney usually obstructs, delays, and does everything possible to keep his
        guilty client from going to trial. That’s what RR and Wray as well as Sessions have been doing. They are refusing to cooperate w/producing material that rightfully belongs to us. Not a single person has been indicted and only one has been fired(McCabe) and that was 18 months after he should have been fired. FBI lawyers representing Strozk and advising him not to tell the truth to the congressional committee. No damn wonder Strozk agreed to testify. Wray and RR had his back. And Strozk is still employed. And is still being paid to do what he does best…give us the middle finger.

        It’s obvious to me that this whole “matter” is being swept under the rug. It was obvious from the get go. The FBI/DOJ is too big to fail.

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        • Mr. T. says:

          The burden of proving guilt is the responsibility of Mueller’s asshats. If Manafort’s legal team does their job well, they will have a chance to cross examine any and all government witnesses called to the stand, and even call a few witnesses of their own. What I.G. Horowitz’s investigation has done, is to provide Manafort’s legal team with an abundance of evidence they can use to attack the credibility of the government witnesses. If I was sitting on the jury, and ample proof was provided by the defense team that the government’s case has a serious credibility problem because of the soiled background of many of the asshats on Mueller’s team, along with the problems continually being uncovered at the DOJ/FBI, I would have to cast my vote for innocent. The law says that in order to enter a finding of guilt, that you must reach that conclusion because you are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. Well, there are just too many reasonable doubts with everything connected to Mueller.

          As for Flynn, I want to believe that his legal team is going to pull a rabbit out of their hat, and thus pull the rug right out from under Mueller and his asshats. Quite possible that they could withdraw the guilty plea at the last minute, and then request a trial by jury. I believe that Strozk is one step away from the OPR wrapping up their investigation on him and recommending that his employment be terminated. He’s already had his security clearance revoked, suspended and stripped of his credentials and service issued weapon. He’s not a credible witness, and neither are many of the other rogue players involved in the investigation and prosecution. Time is on Flynn’s side. The longer this takes, the more evidence comes out in favor of Flynn’s acquittal.

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        • Oldschool says:

          Agree 4sure. I expect nothing from huber, ellis, sullivan or anyone else, except more grief and danger for POTUS. It amazes me how quickly we annoint these folks that we have never heard of and know jack about to some superhero, save the Republic status. We are so desperate for justice.

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          • Perot Conservative says:

            The Big Ugly, so far, on ice?

            Not a single indictment? No squeezing?

            Congress can’t even get vital documents?

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        • mimbler says:

          Truly obvious. And IMO the well-intentioned people counseling patience are actually unintentionally aiding the corrupt DOJ/FBI.

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    • Tallapoosa says:

      That makes sense. Thanks!!

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    • LULU says:

      Thanks so much. In a hysterical world, full of internet forum blather, I wish we could see more reasoned thinking/posting like yours.

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    • Karl Kastner says:

      Doppler, please check my reasoning here…

      http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/28/desantis-rosenstein-recusal/

      Here’s my logic, assuming all of the premises are indeed facts and Rosenstein is truthful under oath:

      1) Rosenstein, as acting AG, oversees the Mueller investigation.

      2) Rosenstein is a witness in both possible Trump-Russia collusion and Trump obstruction of justice. He signed the last of 4 FISA warrants (to surveil Carter Page?) and wrote the memo recommending Comey’s firing.

      3) As a witness in either collusion, obstruction, or both, Rosenstein is lawfully required to recuse from the investigation of either, as Sessions did.

      4) Rosenstein states:
      “Congressman, I can assure you that if it were appropriate for me to recuse, I would be more than happy to do so and let somebody else handle this, but it is my responsibility to do it … ”

      5) Rosenstein does not deem it appropriate(necessary) to recuse.

      Conclusion:

      Mueller is neither investigating Trump-Russia collusion nor Trump obstruction of justice.

      Nearly identical logic applies to Mueller’s numerous conflicts of interest involving alleged Trump collusion or obstruction.

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      • Karl- good summary of facts but wrong conclusion. Mueller and Rosey believe they are above the law and can do what they damn well please.

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        • Karl Kastner says:

          If my logical reasoning is correct, but my conclusion is false, then one of the premises must be false. Which one? Is Rosenstein lying under oath?

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        • Major Rage says:

          Right…….because there are no consequences for Government officials who lie, perjure themselves, leak classified info, or deliberately bend and break the law to benefit their political masters. So, how does your comment fit with the firing of Comey and McCabe? One or both are going to go to jail.

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      • daveokc says:

        This…is actually interesting. The most recent leaks relate to peripheral players far removed from President Trump, which also seems to support your conclusion. Perhaps Mueller and Rosenstein, painfully aware that everything they do will be examined, have decided to conclude there was no collusion and are busily pursuing tangential, low-value, threads in order to pad their final report.

        Conveniently, by deciding to conclude there was no Russia Collusion, the also protect themselves, somewhat, from the poisonous tree their friends (Comey, Brennan, etc.) planted: FISA Warrant Abuse. Mueller and Rosenstein may plan to admit, “Yes the tree was poisonous. And yes it produced poisonous fruit. But once we were aware of it we turned our efforts to other trees. None of which indicated Trump collusion.”

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      • Doppler says:

        Too soon to tell, Karl. You can check the ABA’s Model Rule 1.7 – 1.11 for general guidance, but it all depends on where Mueller is going, and what RR knows about that, which may be, “not much.”

        As a prominent member of Trump’s campaign, Sessions had the appearance of conflict in investigating collusion between the campaign and Russia. Think if Eric Holder investigated foreign collusion by Obama.

        Rosenstein steps up, per the succession rules, and appoints Mueller as special counsel. There is broad speculation about what is being investigated by Mueller, individual Team members who Mueller inherited, Huber and Horowitz. Rosenstein is in the line of command for all of those, but not necessarily privy to all or much of it.

        What testimony of his I saw suggested confidence in the propriety of his actions so far, but awareness that recusal could be required in the future, depending on what breaks out. Especially on his FISA sign off where he appeared to make the case that he relied on signed affidavits presented to him (presumably that fully justified his signature and that he had no solid reason to doubt) that reportedly may have differed from either the truth, or what was presented to the court. If some lying weasel agent or prosecutor later gets charged with perjury for that, and RR ‘s testimony is required to show that, but for the perjury, he would not have signed, then he’d be conflicted from taking part in decisions about supervising it. I suspect that Mueller and Huber screen any such matters from him now, precisely due to his conflict. His confidence suggests he is careful in a lawyerly way about everything he does and says.

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    • CNN_sucks says:

      Hope you are correct. Dont know if Mueller wants to be remember with egg on his face for years to come with this boondoogle.

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    • Doppler- EXCELLENT post. Thanks!

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    • Massachusetts Deplorable says:

      Thanks for your post. I’ll be happy when everything its all done and we have as many confirmed facts as we can get. After Rosenstein’s testimony I have my doubts about it all ending with honest investigations. I hope Huber is honest and thorough and that legitimate investigations of the investigators are underway.

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    • tampa2 says:

      Only problem is, Huber was appointed in March 2018. Flynn’s pleas was announced Dec. 2017.

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      • Sugarhillhardrock says:

        Wait, Huber has been on the job since the fall of ’17. Sessions disclosed his existence in March.

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        • Actually, Jeff Sessions appointed Huber as a federal prosecutor in March of 2017. A couple of months later, President Trump confirmed the appointment. It looks like Sessions and Trump are engaged in a bit of subterfuge, making it appear that Trump is unhappy with Sessions. Otherwise, Sessions would have been replaced long ago. This is a chess game and the master is Trump. The left will rue the day when they engaged in a battle with this tough old bird.

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        • Richard Whitney says:

          Actually, Sessions disclosed the existence of a prosecutor, located outside the Beltway, in mid-February. He told Maria Bartiromo that, and she didn’t follow up on that bombshell at all. And many people missed it, obviously, or they wouldn’t be getting this timeline out of whack.
          Huber has been on the case since well before the Flynn plea.
          Here is another example of Huber hiding in plain sight: Nunes’ famous memo had testimony from Strzok and Page, for instance – but they didn’t appear before his committee. Nunes got that testimony from sworn depositions from those perps.
          My working hypothesis is that Huber and his proxy prosecutors have been working in several different jurisdictions on U1, Clinton Foundation, the Clinton server and selling SAP secrets, and maybe a few other high crimes.

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        • tampa2 says:

          Was not aware of that. I stand corrected.

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      Very sharp observation. THX

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    • NoJuan Importante says:

      Another typo is including a comma after “Robert S. Mueller” and before “III”. I’m thinking Mueller must not read these filings; surely he knows that after a lifetime of being a 3rd. So we have multiple typos; that leads me to believe this is not the brightest and best.

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    • David b says:

      Mueller is dumb. He should finish this off then let Trump pardon him. Because that would only strengthen whatever trumped up stuff he’s going to write in his report against Trump. Delaying this just makes it easier for Trump to pardon Flynn since it’s possible Mueller’s report might come out before Flynn is finally sentenced. Then he has nothing. Trump pardons Flynn, and Mueller wasted millions on nothing.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Do we have any proof that Huber is accomplishing anything noteworthy?

      1. Many confidently predicted dozens, hundreds, or thousands of indictments with the IG report.

      2. Many said the IG report was impossible to taint.

      3. Many predicted lower level players would be squeezed.

      Do we have proof of anything happening?

      How big is Huber’s staff dedicated to this giant task? Same as Mueller’s team? Bigger? Smaller?

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    • Bruce Fauth says:

      Until Mueller is done? He’s done. Just doesn’t want to admit it yet.

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  2. Dutchman says:

    Actually, I believe it is the Bar association, that would revoke a lawyers licence.
    Judge Ellis did not refer lawyers to Bar, for possible disbarrment, in Ted Stevens case, only required they go thru ‘ethics re-training’, a hand slap or insult.

    So, he is restrained, even when p.o.’d, no Judge Judy, or Jeanine, unfortunately.

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  3. American says:

    Free Flynn! Free Tommy! End the witch hunt!

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  4. CA M says:

    All the judge has to do is tell Mueller that he has to pay for Flynn’s attorney costs and see how fast this thing gets dropped.

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  5. mikedmccoy says:

    The issue in the Flynn case is the difference between “exculpatory evidence” and “insculpatory evidence” The former requires the prosecutor to present the evidence used to bring an accusation of a crime and the latter is the evidence used by the prosecutor to prove charges against the accused. Mueller knows the evidence to prove the guilt of MIchael Flynn is spurious and has his ass in a sling if he opens the investigation to the full light of day. This would would reveal the deep corruption within the FBI and DOJ. This whole matter is a grave miscarriage of justice.

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  6. Mashall says:

    To those who know, friendly reminder…
    To those who don’t….1984 is in your reading assignment.

    “O’Brien is the arrogant Police State element that is Srzok, Yates, Comey, McCabe, Lynch Rosenstein.

    They are the actual POLICE STATE that monitor and listen in on your phone conversations that you have with other Americans, with or without a warrant.
    What are you going to do about it?
    Meanwhile Comey smiles…..

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    • Mashall says:

      It is a cold hard fact that I wish I didn’t have to remind you of…
      MAGA

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    • JohninMK says:

      It appears, according to a press release reported on by The Hill on Thursday, that the Police State data collection HQ, otherwise known as the NSA, is trying to reassure you Americans that, whilst it might have broken the law in monitoring your conversations since 2015, this was not down to malice but “technical irregularities” and that in May this year it deleted that data. Presumably after checking it out first, by accident.

      So all is now OK.

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      In due time, Marshall. Lets see what Huber produces.

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  7. Kathy M says:

    If Flynn is falsely charged, Sundance, do you believe Trump will pardon him immediately? I sure hope so if the case is not dropped as it should. Do you have a scoop on why exactly these delays keep happening? Is it a good sign for Flynn?

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    • cali says:

      3Kathy M: Flynn should never have been charged and a pardon by president Trump would never erase the doubt about the guilt of Mike Flynn.
      On the contrary Flynn was falsely charged using altered 302’s and entrapment that is a criminal action on Mueller and his team part. They should drop the case and be required by the court not only to reimburse the Flynn family but also pay additional damages which Flynn earned

      What happened to Flynn happens in a Banana Republic but not in the United States of America. Mueller has indicted innocent men before who currently serving long prison sentences. That is unacceptable. He should be disbarred because he used his badge for malfeasance as an officer of the law.
      Mueller needs to finally face his long earned comeuppance!

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      • mutantbeast says:

        That should have happened 25 yrs ago. Muletrud never should have been FBI director in the first place.

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      • David b says:

        Flynn is going to sue a civil lawsuit regardless of what comes out. As most of the people that have been wrapped up in any “lying” charges. It’s going to take 4 or 5 years, and by then we will have all forgotten, but Flynn and the rest WILL be paid millions in tax dollars for the acts committed upon them.

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  8. Joshua says:

    [1] My knee jerk reaction to this was the same as many (political effect – Note: this implicitly assumes mueller also, like his former agency the F.B.I., likes to influence political elections):
    Closer to the election = more bang for buck.

    [2] Mental Note: Andrew McCabe.
    (See bottom)

    [3] My tertiary reaction was more a legal curiosity:
    Given the 302 rumors… could this blow up on Mueller if Flynn goes to prison and the rumors are true ? Can Flynn “get out” and thus cement mueller as a witch hunter for all history? And what’s with this PSIR?

    – I spent some time on the web as I’m not a lawyer, cause I wanted to know: Can a plea even be “appealed” in any case? If so, can it in this one, if 302’s are falsified?

    I Read a lot of interesting stuff. think I got my answer – started thinking about the constitutionality of pleas in general after reading SCoTUs opinions on them. Quite interesting stuff tbh. Some argue they undermine right to trial by jury and pose a danger for prosecutorial abuse. Really echos concerns about the authorization, scope, and frankly, the behavior of this particular special council – I think something is not right about it.

    Mueller has unlimited resources, unlimited prosecutorial power, unlimited investigatorial scope, and no limiting oversight ( remember rosenstein does not care to read FiSa warrants he signs off on – “if they did something wrong congress should go ask them”. One of the many take-aways I got from the hearing yesterday was that rosy is simply the WRONG guy to have sole oversight over mueller.) the twitter thread by the lawyer linked on previous comments page basically has it – he’s an Inquisitor.

    In my non-legal opinion, the scope needs to be limited somehow. For it to be literally “and anything found during the investigations” along with unlimited investigative “resources”, in this digital age, is just too much. Couple that with the prosecutorial power of the federal govt. and … well, not hard to imagine plea deals being used basically as coercion under those conditions. Flip x flip y … flip Z =? justice by any means.

    Then I Had dinner and now I’m late and I think much has been commented on already – such wonderful generous and knowledgeable people here! I should have just kicked back and waited. Anyway, I may reply to myself later for fun with details, BUT….

    – my answer was NO.
    Flynn cannot get out of this plea after sentencing. New evidence will not change the fact he swore to lieing in the plea deal. Though he can withdraw his plea before sentencing (if he wants to go to trial and can “show the judge a just and fair reason for the withdrawal”, which shouldn’t be a problem if rumors are true).

    The plea agreement itself, written by the sc, basically accepts this ability and states the obvious consequences if Flynn does withdraw. It also requires Flynn to waive his right to appeal the sentence (this is a type 11(c)(1)(B) appeal – the court is not bound to the prosecutors sentencing reccomendations – and those recommendations are clearly still being held over Flynn’s head).

    The plea agreement also stipulates “your client agrees that sentencing in this case may be delayed until your client’s efforts to cooperate have been completed, as determined by the government,….”. So there it is, if Flynn wants the plea, that is why he is agreeing to the delays.

    – and what about this odd PSIR request by mueller ? Odd indeed. He has infinite resources I’m sure he doesn’t expect the probabtion officer to be able to dig up more dirt on Flynn and his associates than mueller himself could. I read that the interview and investigation process can be very invasive for the defendant, his family, and close acquaintances. Maybe mueller just wants to cause flynn more discomfort at the moment, idk.

    [2] But, real quick, back to McCabe.

    While it seems the most reasonable explanation for the delays is simply that (as Doppler commented above) Mueller is not done and still has use for Flynn, remember this:

    The inconvenient fact is that whatever Flynn gets McCabe gets back 3 – 5 fold, at least. Should be obvious. And there is a nothing the media or mueller can do about that.

    – Andy lied not just once, but thrice, to the FBI.
    strike 1
    – He also leaked to the media (big No no).
    strike eleventy
    – He was deputy frickin’ director of the Frickin FBI at the time (ikr – u can’t make this stuff up)
    steeeerike 1 million

    Mueller may have an aversion to seeing a deputy FBI director in federal prison garb. If Flynn goes, McCabe goes. The PSIR would include the sentencing recommendation used by the court and mueller would get to see this when it’s drafted.

    Apologies for typos, run-ons, and poor grammar: past my bed time.

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    • rsmith1776 says:

      Sleep is overrated.

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    • f.fernandez says:

      I may be mistaken but the plea can be set aside if the Judge feels nefarious actions were taken by prosecutors.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      “Mueller may have an aversion to seeing a deputy FBI director in federal prison garb”

      And this could be an additional reason why:

      Andy McCabe (and Rod Rosenstein) handled the Vadim Mikerin “Uranium One” investigation and plea deal.
      Mueller was running an informant prior to the U1 deal’s approval.

      “The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe”

      http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

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      • digleigh says:

        Yep. I believe it is institutional cya for launching an investigation on faulty pretext ( foreign disinformation)/maybe violation of law ESPECIALLY during an election when the Pres. is campaigning for the opposite party!!!!( investigating before the official date July 2016 without probable cause too(sending in of provocateurs?!!) I also believe it is to cover up for themselves in the Hillary matter , and the uranium one deal….. They are fighting for their reps, and to stay out of jail!!( quite a good motivation to use mob-like tactics like Manafort raid ( extremely rare in white collar crimes/and almost unheard of raid on a President’s lawyer office/Cohen!!)

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    • TexasDude says:

      Uhm, he recant and/or say it was under duress.

      Confessions are never the only reason for conviction.

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    • mutantbeast says:

      Flynn was the victim of entrapment. His rights were violated all over the place. That alone is cause to drop the chagres, not only that either. Flynn has every right to sue also. im not as lawyer, but I do have common sense. When it smells like crap it usually is.

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  9. Jim in TN says:

    Has anybody noticed that this repeated process of court appearances is still a massive drain on Flynn’s resources?

    What do lawyers do after they have bled their client dry and the case continues on? Are they obligated to continue regardless of their clients ability to pay? Do they dump him and turn him over to public defenders? Do they force him into bankruptcy?

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    • rsmith1776 says:

      … and what if this is despicable Mueller’s actual intent?

      Defeating the witchhunt is not enough anymore. To put it in Robert de Niro terms, but less crass, down with Mueller is not enough at this point.

      Mueller has to pay in the justice system for all the lives he destroyed, for all the illegalities he committed, for all the corruption he condoned, created, and sponsored with public money.

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      • digleigh says:

        M.O. apparently of Comey and Mueller, put Manafort in 2 courts (to cost him to have 2 teams, etc.???) drag things out to bankrupt defendents,? etc… May also be Weisman’s M.O.? Remember Brock’s playbook…..keep em in court , so they can’t function more or less…… Gowdy is right….BE DONE MUELLER….(YOU ARE BIASED , COMPROMISED, FRUIT OF THE POISONOUS(SCZROK /Page/Ohrs/GPS Fusion(Simpson and wife), Moyer, Cline…(sp.)/Halper/Misfud/Downer/Greenfield sp?/Gchq/Brennan, etc….) TREE, and any evidence you have of ANYTHING is compromised IMHO… You with your friends, Comey, Brennan, rosenstein and your lawyer (his wife Lisa) have wrecked the faith of (polling bt 60-84%) the American people who do NOT TRUST the hierarchy of our INTEL anymore!!! Schumer knew…..”be careful Trump , as the intel agencies know six ways to Sunday HOW to get BACK at you”! RUSSIA could not have done more damage!!!

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      • mutantbeast says:

        Dont forget,Mule turd costed the US taxpayer over $100 MILLION $ due to his false prosecutions involving infamous Boston mobster Whitey Bulger. 2 of the 4 men illegally prosecuted ended up dying in prison. That was even worse than whats happening to Flynn now.

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    • TexasDude says:

      Usually it’s a set fee unless it goes to trial then costs go up.

      There is a good reason lawyers can command very good $$.

      Some keep you out of jail or have better sentence. Others help you keep in regulatory conpliance, are good at legal research and negotiation, or can win civil cases reliably.

      I am not a lawyer, but have used their services on occasion.

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    • mimbler says:

      They aren’t obligated to do anything once the checks start bouncing.

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  10. TwoLaine says:

    Can you imagine trying to go to court with this case? Everyone who was involved has been fired, or has been clearly shown as biased and liars. Yates, Strzok, McCabe, Comey…. Degenerates, all of them. Yates crushing blow came this past week with the Supremes upholding the President’s Travel Ban, the one she put her “body on the line” for. 🙂

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    • rayvandune says:

      No, couldn’t imagine it, unless of course, the courts were larded full of equally-corrupt judges appointed by previous Presidents who are Mueller’s political allies…

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  11. HB says:

    I’m not big on the Go Fund Me crap, but if Flynn had the assets would that screw with Muellers game plan?

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  12. Foxy says:

    Its easy to get bogged down in the legal complexities surrounding the Flynn case but let’s consider a simple fact – Sullivan has previously ordered SC to turn over the exculpatory evidence. We have to assume that this has occurred because the deadline has long since passed. Yet no change in the case or Sullivan’s treatment of either party to this issue. What does that tell you????

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  13. william elbel says:

    If Flynn is stupid enough to answer any FBI questions after Scooter Libby et al, then he NEEDS to be in prison to minimize infecting others with stupidity.

    Even crazy Hildebeest was smart enough not to answer FBI questions.

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    • CNN_sucks says:

      Good point. Maybe Pence was correct on taking him out of the administration. He is a weak link. Easy to be coerce to submission.

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      • Jederman says:

        “Maybe” is correct. You have no way of knowing what went down. Flynn is neither stupid nor weak.

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        • Oldschool says:

          Is Flynn loyal?

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          • President Trump knows everything Mueller is doing. When the special council investigation reaches it’s conclusion and they release the report it will be as close to the midterm election as possible. The plan is to confuse the electorate before all the charges can be refuted. We must remember that his enemies have accused President Trump of treason. He has no choice but to unleash the full power of the presidency upon his accusers. There will be major fireworks but DJR will come out of the battle unscathed.

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            • Oldschool says:

              That is quite a statement with no evidence to support it.

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            • Joshua says:

              I don’t understand how we know that to be true. Can u please expound ?

              [It is my baseless supposition that he met with mueller simply to pick his brain about the the fbi and maybe the people surrounding – he needed to appoint new people and maybe many – I imagine that meeting ended awkawardly]. Did mueller contact rosenstein that night or the next day idk.

              One of the pieces I did not add in my comment above is that flynn could of course peruse an appeal later on constitutional grounds. I would have to type more and I’m tired again. But the precedent is there for his plea deal to be accepted as valid. He would have to show anew that this general situation (not instance – as the supremes don’t care about one offs – remember :.•I have to pay for insurance or pay – or pay…..” rights indeed ) is a violation of his constitutional rights. I read the Brady opinion. This does not directly apply BUT this is exactly the type of case the supremes were worries about – if the stakes were higher ? Do stakes matter ?

              This is of course all useless blather. Though the ACLU will never contact him, judicial watch has for sure. So the best minds are on it – we only need sit back and enjoy the show.

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  14. Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

    If Flynn just decides just to put up with all the blatant illegalities that appear to be present in his situation. Conflicts of interest, false accusations by his interrogators, falsified (or missing) documents pertinent to his case, possible illegal surveillance If he just let this whole mess run it’s course and if it comes crashing down. Which is what many of the optimists here predict. Won’t he be able to sue the government for millions?

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  15. william elbel says:

    Even I, as an Appalachian hill billy, knows it is not a good idea to answer ANY FBI questions, so any one who does perhaps could invoke an ignorance excuse, but that is hard to swallow in a 2017 time frame.

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  16. John says:

    The independent counsel is biding time to see if the House is going to change. That’s why the Flynn delay is going on. Flynn is a game of chicken. If he goes to jail for a day, Trump is going to declassify and pardon him. Expose Mueller team bias and get rid of special counsel with good justification. In the meanwhile the special counsel strengthens Trumps base. Mueller not in a good place.

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  17. Bill Henslee says:

    My concern about the delay is that Mueller may be planning an October surprise by having all the sentencing on Fllynn and Pappadopolous done just before the Nov. elections to help the Dems spread crap about the President.

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    • Oldschool says:

      We would be quite naive to think there aren’t big plans in the making from mueller and the swamp. Sure hope POTUS has a plan. To date, he’s rolled with the punches. Not sure that will work if they go nuclear.

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  18. Yeah, that’s the plan.

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  19. Fools Gold says:

    Seen a tweet this morning from imperial Rex which states Muller and RR were exposed and were converted black hats who have been working since way back to expose and blow everything out of the water. His theory is both are working for Trump and Trump converted them. I’ve heard this theory before here. Would love to hear thoughts on that theory again today. If true it would certainly end the democraps party forever so to speak and would be my idea of what big ugly looks like.

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    • Oldschool says:

      My thoughts on all of it, SHOW ME

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    • Newhere says:

      I don’t think the theory relies on the notion that either has been “converted.” It just requires that they act in self-interest/self-preservation.

      Following this line of thought requires being very careful to separate *what is actually in the relevant legal documents* — i.e., the scope of the investigation as set out in RR’s SC authorization, and the indictments and other actual legal filings that comprise the record and which are the only credible window into what’s going on here. Everything else is pure speculation. Including even the notion that Mueller is investigating obstruction. The closest to a credible source on that was the “leaked” set out questions to Trump that seemed to indicate interest in obstruction. But that was an unsourced leak and therefore not credible.

      So, here’s my point: Mueller’s mandate as tasked and defined by Rosenstein is to investigate Russia interference in the 2016 election and any coordination with the Trump campaign, and any other matters arising therefrom or other issues with further permission from RR. That is ALL WE KNOW. (Another part of the authorization was redacted, which may task other areas of investigation, which could cut any direction).

      So, if you’re Mueller, and you’re pursuing Russian interference and links to Trump, where exactly does that lead? EVEN IF his objective is to ensnare Trump in SOMETHING — we all know where this line of investigation goes: it runs right into FISA abuse, illegal spying, Intel community lying and cover-up, etc. Those are the facts. That’s where an honest investigation under Mueller’s *existing mandate* takes him.

      So does he need to be “converted” to run the investigation on the up-n-up and “follow the facts wherever they lead”? Not necessarily. He just needs to calculate that the truth is coming out one way or another, the walls are closing in, and he has a choice. Go down with the ship, or as Nunes put it, actually be part of the clean up crew rather than the cover up. He just has to realize that self-preservation requires that he run an honest investigation.

      When you read the actual legal documents, it’s possible that this is exactly what Mueller is doing. Remember, all the conduct at issue in the Manafort indictment pre-dates his actual stint on the Trump campaign; in fact, the conduct spans about a decade prior, during which time Manafort was closely associated with McCain (ran his 2008 campaign) and closely associated with the Podesta Group (company #2 in the indictment). Tony Podesta resigned the day after Manafort was indicted, and the Podesta Group quickly went under. The actual FACTS here are much more suggestive of trouble pointing to McCain and Clinton’s orbit than Trump’s — both of whom we know played a part in the Fusion GPS saga.

      Again, Mueller doesn’t have to be a “white hat” and could have been doing his best most of the time to smear Trump, stalling for time or trying to find something to pin on him — but he hasn’t been able to stop the simultaneous revelation of facts that are on a collision course with his Trump-Russia mission. He is not dumb. He may be taking it as far as he can, knowing things are turning the other way and that survival requires that in the end he be part of clean up.

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      • Fools Gold says:

        Great comment Newhere. The FISA issue (when proven true by IG) puts Muller in a pickle which is why he’s stalling on Flynn. In my view his only option for survival Is getting out in front of it by exposing these crimes himself and linking himself to the report.

        Either way I believe the BIG UGLY is coming and we can all Thank our Great POTUS and then let Sessions clean up that crooked town one by one as he was meant to do.

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  20. Donzo says:

    Why have we no indictments from Huber after all these months? You’d think he has enough evidence to publicly announce at least one.

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  21. Donna in Oregon says:

    Any Grand Jury indictments by Huber? American Thinker…

    April 30, 2018
    Indictments Are Comey…er, Coming
    By William L. Gensert

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/04/indictments_are_comeyer_coming.html

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    • Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

      Unfortunately that article was written before the author discovered that there was NO political bias involved in ANY decisions. None, Nada, Zilch, Zero. Just a few grumblebunnies in DOJ/FBI doing their job without enough sleep. A few letters will be sent home to their parents and these shenanigans won’t happen again!
      By gum.

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  22. Donna in Oregon says:

    Those of us waiting for the Uranium One indictments know that the Podesta Bros were heavily involved in Uranium One. Mueller let Podesta Group skate, Tony Podesta just gave up his company while Manafort was indicted, and is locked up until his trial.

    From this Article: Panama Papers Reveal Clinton’s Kremlin Connection
    John and Tony Podesta aren’t fooling anyone
    By John R. Schindler • 04/07/16 1:00pm

    “The revelations of the so-called Panama Papers that are roiling the world’s political and financial elites this week include important facts about Team Clinton. This unprecedented trove of documents purloined from a shady Panama law firm that arranged tax havens, and perhaps money laundering, for the globe’s super-rich includes juicy insights into how Russia’s elite hides its ill-gotten wealth.”

    “Almost lost among the many revelations is the fact that Russia’s biggest bank uses The Podesta Group as its lobbyist in Washington, D.C. Though hardly a household name, this firm is well known inside the Beltway, not least because its CEO is Tony Podesta, one of the best-connected Democratic machers in the country. He founded the firm in 1998 with his brother John, formerly chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, then counselor to President Barack Obama, Mr. Podesta is the very definition of a Democratic insider. Outsiders engage the Podestas and their well-connected lobbying firm to improve their image and get access to Democratic bigwigs.”

    _____________________________________________________________-

    Who was running the FBI, and the FBI informant Mr. Campbell at that critical vote to let Uranium One be sold to the Russians? Why Mr. Mueller of course.

    It’s in the Panama Papers….they couldn’t keep everything quiet.

    http://observer.com/2016/04/panama-papers-reveal-clintons-kremlin-connection/

    And here is where Mr. Mueller shows his hand. His black hand of corruption:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/05/tony-podesta-lobbied-for-russias-uranium-one-and-did-not-file-as-a-foreign-agent/

    Enter Mr. James Comey, Mueller’s replacement. Former big shot at HSBC bank, served on the board of directors of HSBC Holdings until July 2013 and here is his connection to the Clinton Cartel:

    “This is not the first time that offshore accounts that figure into the Clinton’s Global Financial Network have been exposed. Two years ago a Swiss whistleblower released the names of the super-rich who held Swiss accounts via the bank HSBC. As an earlier investigation by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists revealed, up to $81 million has flowed to the Clinton Foundation via Swiss accounts. As the investigation revealed, Swiss accounts were held by numerous Clinton donors.”

    Jeffrey Epstein, the controversial financier and convicted sex offender, held money in a HSBC Swiss account. He contributed $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/18/exposing-clinton-global-financial-network/

    And then we see how the money is laundered and how the FBI Directors are so important to this process:

    Panama Papers: HSBC helped rich clients register more than 2,300 shell companies, leak report says
    http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1933624/panama-papers-hsbc-helped-rich-clients-register-more-2300-shell-companies

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  23. it’s a fitting gift that the Federal Bureau of Insubordination’s sloppy crappy phony cases were handed off to the guy who created the FBI culture problem in the first place. No longer can former FBI Director Mueller pass off poor FBI work product to DOJ prosecutors. These sham prosecutions are falling apart in Mueller’s hands. Reap what you sow. This hot mess will be Mueller’s legacy.

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  24. Jay J says:

    It is simple Mueller doesn’t want Flynn pardoned the minute after the sentence is laid down. So therefore delay the sentence.

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  25. Anonymous says:

    Dismiss the charges or pardon Flynn– it’s clear the whole thing is crap now.

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