Eye-Witness School Teacher States Nikolas Cruz Wearing Helmet and Body Armor…

This may not be news to most, but this report is news to me.  I had no idea Nikolas Cruz was wearing a helmet, face-mask and full body armor.  WATCH:

Has this teacher’s account been referenced or confirmed elsewhere? It would seem to align with this report about the über driver and the duffel bag:

Which would also seem to explain this video of police hastily removing a seemingly heavy duffel bag from the school immediately after the shooting:

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1,242 Responses to Eye-Witness School Teacher States Nikolas Cruz Wearing Helmet and Body Armor…

  1. dawg says:

    FFS, can we PLEASE not turn this into a conspiracy theory?? CRUZ. DID. IT!

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  2. HA says:

    Somebody needs to investigate whether this massacre was a terrorist attack organized by Sheriff’s Deputy Nezar Hamze.

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  3. On hindsight, after thinking about it, I think it is possible the video is of the police swat team loading their gear and the teacher saw a swat team member.

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    • No police were in the building during the shooting. In fact no police entered the building until after swat arrive apparently.

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    • Synicle says:

      Uh, Haven’t heard any reports of SWAT team members firing their weapons inside the school after entering later on during the day.

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    • I don’t think a SWAT was present – it was the Coral Springs police and some Broward deputies who went in first and no, she did NOT see a police officer!

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      • Esperanza says:

        The first deputy wad Swat and he lent extra body armour (and rifle?) to the sergeant who was in shorts and teeshirt. So that’s two.

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    • brenrod says:

      or its a false flag with an unknown shooter clad in body armor…didnt one female student say she talked to cruz in the hall after the first couple of shots…. maybe they get a patsy and shoot at the same time…. so many questions that allow for conspiracy theories because we always get unsatisfactory replies.

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      • brenrod says:

        … and because our fbi and intel services are corrupted.

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      • Jainphx says:

        Why is it that everyone of the shooters in these events were!
        1) known
        2) troubled
        3)loners
        I seem to think, maybe I’m wrong, but the pattern suggests patsies! Nothing done to help these people! On purpose? I think it’s something to think about. Thinking back! Why did Jack Ruby kill Oswald, why did so many people connected die suddenly like Dorothy Killgallen. I’m hoping I’m wrong, but this same story plays out time after time.

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        • Maquis says:

          Seems like.

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        • TheLastDemocrat says:

          Or, the most likely person to go around shooting at others is:
          a troubled loner

          and

          who is so off-kilter that they have pinged on the radar more than once.

          No conspiracy theory needed.

          A guy in my neighborhood did a drunken weapon-fire for fun, late at night, while drunk, and out having an uproarious good time driving around in his truck. His stray bullet killed a child.

          A couple weeks before, he had threatened to kill the father of some girlfriend of his.

          I heard that threat from down the street ( he was making a noisy ruckus at that time, as well), and called it in to the police. No FBI conspiracy needed.

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    • SWOhio says:

      Nope, she said the person was shooting down the hallway, killed a teacher in the next classroom, shot into HER classroom (she closed the door but I think glass window) and killed some of her students and hit her as well.

      Pretty sure it wasn’t a member of the SWAT team.

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    • Totally Domestic says:

      Shooting down the hall?

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  4. Peter says:

    She says it was a cop in full body armor shooting, not Cruz. That’s a major difference.

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  5. Alligator Gar says:

    OK, might be way off here, but weren’t school mass shootings the excuse used to take most personal firearms from people in the UK and in Australia? Worked in those two places, so I guess TPTB thought, “Why the heck won’t it work here? Kill enough American kids and the rubes will throw their 2d A at our feet and beg to be tyrannized by the the NWO.”

    Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.

    TPTB think that we can’t read and see how badly personal liberty has been eroded, especially in the UK? The UK were you have to be a victim and then the police might do something, or then again they might not until critical mass is reached like in Rotherham… and by then a whole generation of native girls have been destroyed by the friendly, happy well-integrated Pakistani immigrants.

    Nope. Happening. Here.

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  6. lyfsatrip4us says:

    Here is a longer version of the teacher interview. http://abcnews.go.com/video/twittercard?id=53240314

    None of this is adding up. There is ZERO chance the shooter was Cruz. He arrives at the school with a duffle bag (he can carry alone) with a backpack. Within 10 minutes of his arriving at the school we’re to believe he somehow put on the body armor, shot up the school (lasted up to 6 minutes) removed the armor and hung in the hallway with other students and just casually walked out with them, then waltzed up to Walmart getting a drink at Subway, then meandering over to McDonalds for a while only to be found by Coral Springs officers all within an hour. Then Cruz is placed in the back of a squad car while cops stand around talking. They take him to the hospital, no reason stated for that move, and finally take him to jail. Sorry guys but this smells to high heaven.

    As far as those officers carrying that VERY heavy ‘duffle/body bag’, perhaps THEY were bringing out THEIR body armor. Perhaps these are NOT officers but are the actual shooters, i.e. contractors. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you must but this school shooting, as we’ve been learning is nothing BUT one HUGE conspiracy.

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  7. Oldsourdough says:

    Many people think that wearing what is referred to as a tactical vest and tactical pants, means body armor, and it isn’t. It is just a particular style shirt and pants. I doubt he had body armor, which tends to be very expensive, and some cannot be bought by the general public.
    Many people, to include those in the media, confuse the issue all the time.

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  8. Texmom says:

    Just like Las Vegas, so much doesn’t add up.

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  9. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-column-school-shooter-texts-father-son-20180220-story.html
    This opinion piece claims that texts between a son at the school shooting & his father include the cops being present while still hearing gun shots. I wonder if anyone has looked at the times of these texts & if this info actually corroborates the possible presence of more than one shooter? Also the boy makes a curious statement along the lines of “I think it’s real”–does that imply that he’d already been exposed to shooting drills in his school? Hmm…

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  10. BTW I looked up one of Cruz’s lawyers. Devout Democrat.. Not that most aren’t.. I think his lawyers are worth looking into. The rush to plea by a lawyer from a lawyer with “the innocence project” seems fishy to me.

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  11. TwoLaine says:

    Picture and video of the most well protected man in Broward County. He apparently cannot protect himself any better than he can protect your children.

    https://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/471533006-5-things-to-know-about-Fla-SRO-Scot-Peterson

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  12. rashomon says:

    This event and all the diverse narratives that have been created and told around it are JUST ONE MORE reason to cut the bureaucracy, carefully close down our intelligence systems — perhaps — to reboot under better controls, and sue the media companies as well as many other conglomerates as monopolies. We citizens have NO IDEA who is doing what to whom. “Of the People, by the People and for the People” my a$$.

    Thousands and thousands of those representing us as “military” are actually contractors over which we have no knowledge or control. Too many actually are owned by FOREIGN companies with no allegiance to our citizens’ constitutional rights. Our ports, air trafficking systems; passport and visa systems; prison systems; firms charged with construction for Army, Navy Air Force and Coast Guard; security and telecommunications systems…you name it…are not workingin our interests.

    Moreover, our patent and copyright laws and practices have been compromised by the PTB, removing all protections that entrepreneurs used to have and allowing foreign countries and enterprises to steal integral technologies crucial to our country’s security. Some were merely traded in pay-to-play as in the Clinton administration’s gifting to China; others are reassigned to “ownership” attached to our intelligence systems, which again have allegiance only to those who offered the most power and money. INSLAW, PRISM and Palantir plus all their backdoor offshoots; Facebook, Google, Twitter and most other social media; drug, arms, human and organ trafficking plus pedophilia rings to support the Shadow government; failed or lack of auditing for most government programs at every level; a very private Federal Reserve which has never been exposed for its interference with our economy…these are all these critical problems that continuously are overwhelmed by the black ops, false flags and programmed wars to further control the population.

    Enough.

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  13. Zippy says:

    Note to Uber, Lyft, whatever drivers – don’t take kids wearing black backpacks while also carrying black duffle bags to schools. Drive by the pickup point… quickly.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Isn’t that what you would look like if you had afternoon baseball practice, and your ma wasn’t home from work quick enough to give you a ride?

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  14. I looked to see if Mullah Fethullah Gulen had a school in Florida, he has several, and one is in Broward county http://www.bmsschools.org/

    If you don’t know who Gulen is and his “schools” around the country and his ties to the Clintons http://turkishinvitations.weebly.com/list-of-us-schools.html Might look to see if one is in your city.

    may I suggest go to Newsbud and look at Sibel Edmonds work on Gulen and his “schools” and so much more. https://www.newsbud.com/

    Wonder if the cair deputy Mulla praised by sharif israel has ties to Gulen

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  15. Pat Frederick says:

    so if Cruz confessed, we should be (eventually) hearing all about his planning right? it can be verified where and when he obtained his gear and how long he thought this through. what route he took to evade capture-the guns he used–the ammo–his pathway through the school–all of it. until then who really knows which accounts now are true and which are disinformation or plain old exaggeration…????

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  16. TwoLaine says:

    A teacher has a Duty To Report a student who is being abused.
    Likewise, if a student is an abuser, they also have a Duty To Report.

    I want to know EXACTLY how many teachers and SROs over the years REPORTED this young man’s abusive behavior, IF THAT IS TRULY THE CASE, and what came from reporting those incidents.

    I also think his mothers death might bear some looking into. His mother, Lynda Cruz, 68, is said to have died of pneumonia in Nov 2017, and it is said that Cruz may have been at least a partial recipient of some big bucks ahead once her estate is settled.

    However, if Broward County has anything to say about it, they are planning to do everything they can to steal it all. The county that let him down wants him to pay for their Dereliction Of Duty.

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      • Eskyman says:

        So “Evil Triumphs When Good People Stand Idly By.” Well, ain’t that sweet.

        I guess that means the Broward Cowards were promoting evil, while they cowered behind their police cars. They were probably there to prevent any actual “good people,” some of the many armed Floridians with CCWs, from entering that school before the murderer had done his evil work!

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        • TwoLaine says:

          Clearly. Let’s just call them “the small goup”.

          I’m guessing they were afraid, very afraid that all their dirty dark secrets were going to come crashing down on their heads very quickly unless they got inside to the SRO office and got it cleaned out before anyone could get access to it.

          That’s why I want to know what was in the black bag.

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          • WSB says:

            TwoLaine, you have just uncovered the Sun-Sentinel article that could put two and two together, if I am not mistaken.

            http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/96011192-132.html

            First, the video clip embedded within the article is very telling with information about the Cruz adoption and audio by Nikolas himself, but then there is this…

            “When Nikolas Jacob Cruz was born in South Florida 19 years ago, his adoptive mother Lynda was in the delivery room to watch him emerge. The nurse handed the baby to her. She was elated.
            [snip]

            “A LOVING FAMILY

            One day before her 49th birthday, Lynda Cruz’s adopted son was born, on Sept. 24, 1998. She and Roger Cruz had married late in life. He was 61 and had four kids from a previous marriage.

            A close family friend and former neighbor, who asked that her name not be published, told the South Florida Sun Sentinel that the couple [emphasis mine] <<<>>>

            >>>>Less than a year later, the same woman got pregnant again. The baby had a different father. Lynda and Roger adopted that boy, Zachary, as well.>>> Their family was complete.”

            In my mind, this entire scenario could directly tie in Jeffrey A. Kasky, Esq., Cameron’s father, who has the adoption agency and surrogacy business.

            Interesting that the person interviewed here adds the comment about insisting that the birth mother pass drug tests. Would be awful if those drug tests were falsified and damaged children were adopted unknowingly.

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            • TwoLaine says:

              Just a tho’t, Daddy was a traveling salesman.

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              • WSB says:

                I catch your drift…Here, Jeffrey A. Kasky, Esq. is not new to prosecutions with regard to adoptions:

                Privacy Issues Raised In Case Of Mom Accused In Killing

                “Prosecutors have contacted two Broward adoption agencies that had dealings with the woman charged in Utah with killing one of her twins after she delayed a Caesarean section.

                The Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office, which is prosecuting Melissa Ann Rowland, 28, is trying to get records of any information that Rowland may have given to the Deerfield Beach and Hollywood agencies.

                That request is adding a new layer of questions — about the privacy of adoption records — to the already controversial case.

                On Wednesday, an attorney for the Deerfield Beach agency filed court papers in Salt Lake City asking a judge to clarify whether the prosecution’s request in a murder case overrides a Florida law that makes adoption records confidential.

                Jeff Kasky, of One World Adoption Services Inc., said he is wrestling with what he fears may be conflicting ethical responsibilities: to turn over any evidence that might help the prosecution or defense in Rowland’s case, and to protect children.”

                http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2004-04-01/news/0403311400_1_adoption-records-adoptive-parents-prosecution

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            • TwoLaine says:

              “Would be awful if those drug tests were falsified and damaged children were adopted unknowingly.”

              Drug tests do not screen for alcohol abuse.

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            • Esperanza says:

              That link is heart breaking. That poor kid was left alone. We spend all this money and he was literally alone. I was on the metro today and we were berated by a crazy guy saying he would kill us. I got off because he walked to us and started berating us in particular. In 2018 (and we have universal health care) NOONE in that state should be out on the streets. He was dirty and stank. We need decent institutions to help these people. Clean clothes hot food. Medical help.

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            • Last night I responded to a comment from AnnieOakley regarding this same thing, Cruz being adopted from the Kasky agency, Camerons fathers business and they probably had info that we weren’t privy to. I had one of those responses with a finger wag from Peoria Jones asking can you verify that please. I posted two qualifiers, one with Jeff Kaskey, Camerons father, threatening Marco Rubio and the #2 website to Kasky, LLC adoptions. Peoria Jones responded..”I found nothing in the article supporting your claim, perhaps you read something in the comments? TBH I don’t feel real good about clicking the link below. Thanks for responding, Ill check further”. I thought it was odd, as I read more comments I found him asking for video of the girl that was talking to Cruz exiting the school and some other requests he could have easily found had he/she taken the time. Is he a moderator here or is he looking for information to either find people, scrub info and have others do his research.

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              • WSB says:

                Peoria Jones is not a mod that I am aware of. More than likely your second thought.

                However, many readers here try to conform with SD’s posting rules to provide a link to back up comments. This poster could, though, be another journalist type or indeed someone following the crowd sourcing to figure out a Plan B.

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          • WSB says:

            Also from the article:

            “Nikolas wasn’t an easy child. He had been diagnosed with a string of disorders and conditions: depression, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, emotional behavioral disability and autism, records from the state Department of Children and Families show. His mom told sheriff’s deputies he also had obsessive-compulsive disorder and anger issues.”

            Jeffrey A. Kasky, Esq. The Autism Channel

            http://theautismchannel.tv/about-tac.html

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            • TwoLaine says:

              I would venture to say that most people who are bullied often do have anger issues.

              As to DCF’s pronouncement, NEVER, EVER trust a DCF from ANY state.

              They like to STEAL people’s children and break up families for pure profit. Then they enable, diagnose and drug them (Big Pharma industrial complex), and make them co-dependent idiots. Autism is one of their favorite buzzwords and one of their favorite ways to take your child away.

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          • Maquis says:

            Oh…crap.

            Nailed it.

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            • annieoakley says:

              I wanted to reply to WSB’s comment on the Dims not liking “Charter Schools”. It seems that they really do like the Gulen run Charter Schools. I am suspicious of these schools because they can bring in as many Turks as they want.

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        • Jainphx says:

          I shudder to think that you’re right! Very scary thought, but it needs to be said, and needs to be investigated. Only problem is WHO do we trust to do the investigations? The FBI? Nope! The NSA? Nope! We’re in trouble folks. I’ve lived my life, but you young people deserve answers before the box cars come to take you away!

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      • KimmyK says:

        That’s ironic

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    • Lurker2 says:

      I don’t think there were any “big bucks” to be had. She sold the family home nearly a year before her death, and it was a short sale. She didn’t get anything from the sale. They then moved into a mobile home. Sounds more like she was in financial trouble.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Not true. She was downsizing, and at her age, I would too. They moved into a condo. The trailer was his “guardian” after his mother died. She kicked him out, but his brother stayed.

        She also is said to have filed to be admin of his mother’s estate (said to be a possible $800k) the day after the shooting, when she also had his younger brother involuntarily committed.

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        • WSB says:

          ”Nikolas came down the hallway and he went to his room, and he was crying. She said, ‘What’s the matter, did Daddy punish you?’ Just as clear as day, he said, ‘Nope. Daddy’s dead.’ ”

          Roger Cruz was dead of a heart attack at age 67.

          Lynda Cruz sued two heart doctors and won a small settlement for her sons a few years later, court records show.”

          The Sun-Sentinel

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          • Esperanza says:

            61 is way too old to be a father.

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            • WSB says:

              I agree. The couple were trying to relive a second life.

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              • Maquis says:

                And died well before that child was raised. There should be limits to age for adoptions, or at least a legally binding back up home and parents, people the child is raised knowing, preferably related, definitely YOUNGER.

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                • WSB says:

                  Good point. We have removed stable environments from the list of qualifiers.

                  If you read more in the article, this family were in a five-bedroom home with all of the fixings, and the parents doted on the boys. Then within a fairly small amount of time, it all was stripped away. It would not have changed the disease that Nikolas had, but at least there would have been consistency with the original family.

                  One thought that just popped up in my head. The two boys’ birth mother was the same but the fathers were different. I attempted to look up Florida adoption and birth record info, to no avail.

                  However, when I was looking up those records, some of the birth mothers were 14 or so. Now, if Lynda Cruz took in Zachary by the same pregnant young woman who got pregnant “less than a year later”, was that very young woman paid to repeat her last performance?

                  And if Zachary seems to have the same problem with autism, which apparently was diagnosed of Nikolas, how was that adoption allowed to go through? Obviously a one year old may not have symptoms but was there sufficient evidence that the birth mother was not a valid adoptive mother?

                  Hmmmmm.

                  I also wonder who these young girls are? Are they trafficked themselves?

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    • Maquis says:

      That reported $800k won’t cover a single wrongful death lawsuit judgement. Nor the legal fees of this corrupt Leftist fiefdom.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        The wrongful death lawsuits should be filed against plenty of others, so who knows.

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        • Maquis says:

          Oh, it’s going to be a financial bloodbath. That county’s bond rating should now be well past a junk rating, more like a smoking hole.

          It will indeed be a chaotic legal battle against individuals and governments. Discovery will be morbidly fascinating. A dissection of the animated corpse of the all-corrupting Left.

          GBVSGPDJT
          🇺🇸

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          • TwoLaine says:

            As it should be.

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          • TheLastDemocrat says:

            Legal battle.
            A timeline will have to be laid out. For all involved. These various eyewitness reports will be brought in, and added to the mix.

            My wife and I watched LIVE as whatever was thrown into the truck. We were like, “what the heck was that?!”

            There is an answer. It will come out. Who those people were will come out. What they had at McDonalds, as they threw their McDonalds lunch order bag out the window, will come out.

            Zimmerman trial showed: TM could have gotten to the T and walked home in quite a short bit of time, yet he turned back toward the top of the T, and engaged GZ. No two ways about that. Timeline, and Rayjean, demonstrate this.

            One person walloped on another for a solid 42 seconds, with only one voice crying out. We know that from the one 9-11 call that came out. No two ways about that.

            This cluster bust, unlike the other school shootings, will be laid bare.

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  17. Zippy says:

    The Insanity Of The Left And Its New Spokesman

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=233044

    From The Hill:

    “Stoneman Douglas student David Hogg on deputy who did not enter school during shooting: ‘Who wants to go down the barrel of an AR-15, even with a glock? And I know that’s what these police officers are supposed to do, but they’re people too.'”

    So, media-anointed Mr. Spokesman, who “magically” got a checkmark on Twitter all of a sudden, has decided that it’s perfectly-acceptable to virtue signal when people fail to do the job they’re hired to do.

    Does anyone want to stare down the barrel of a firearm? Of course not. However, we hire some people to do exactly that, and we give them both guns and body armor to make it a somewhat more-reasonable fight if they are called upon to do so.

    Let me point out that nobody is drafted into a copshop. People have been drafted to go to war. Today we don’t, but David Hogg didn’t live in a world where that could reasonably happen whereas I did; when I turned 18 the memory of people being drafted to go fight in Vietnam was still there and I still registered as required on my birthday. Did I like the idea of being conscripted? No, but if I had been I would have fought.

    However, just like police officers, today many voluntarily join the military. Indeed, some of Hogg’s classmates have joined the military on a deferred basis even though too young to enlist. We call them JROTC, and some are in Hogg’s class. Those people all know that when they go through ROTC after becoming of age to get the benefits thereof they will be required to serve. All persons who wear the uniform of the armed forces may be called to fight, and that fight might get personal at some point in their military career, with them being shot at and needing to return fire in an attempt to avoid dying.

    If you take upon yourself a job that has a known and agreed-upon risk of having to stare down a person who is using a firearm in an aggressive manner and who might seek to shoot you then you have voluntarily taken that up in exchange for money. If you fail to perform and other people die then in the military you can and will be charged under the UCMJ for cowardice before the enemy.

    We absolutely must demand the same standard of cops; not only do they get a far more-cushy deal while employed they get a hell of a lot better deal in retirement than most military members do as well!

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    • spren says:

      Zippy, that was a very well written and concise comment you posted. When I was 18, I also had to register for Selective Service as it was called then. At the time, my older brother was serving in Vietnam after having been drafted. When he was killed on Flag Day 1970, I was so distraught that I transferred colleges to attend the school he had attended. In the turmoil, I failed to inform the draft board of my change of schools, so all they saw was that my deferment had expired. As a result, I received my “Notice to Report” within just a couple of months after I had made this change. My parents, having just lost their eldest son freaked out and went to the draft board and had me reclassified as 4G which was “Sole Surviving Son” so I didn’t have to report as required.

      The night before my brother was to leave for Vietnam, I was speaking with him outside our basement. Having just graduated from high school, I was very gung ho, and I told him that if anything happened to him I would go over there and even the score. He abandoned his normally passive manner and grabbed me by the neck of my shirt and through me up against the wall of our house. He told me “Don’t be an a-hole, you do anything you have to do to stay out of this monstrosity.”

      Sorry for the rant, but you just brought back so many intense memories from that experience. And I’m so sick of hearing people calling for a reinstatement of the draft as a supposed remedy to get troubled youth back on track. The military isn’t a social engineering operation and has thrived on having an all-volunteer membership. And as you said, police officers are exactly that. They knew what they were signing up for and if they agree to its terms, should be fully held accountable when they fail to perform.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      On my 18th birthday, I walked down to the post office and submitted my selective service card.

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  18. Jane Smith says:

    So, Cruz takes an Uber ride to the school.
    He has his vest, face mask, helmet, and gun in a bag.
    He enters the school and pulls the fire alarm.
    He gets his gun ready first…one student reported seeing him do this. He told that student to get out because things were going to get bad. The student ran outside.
    Cruz then puts on a vest, mask, and helmet.
    He starts shooting…goes up a floor…continues shooting…goes up a floor…tries to shoot through the hurricane glass in the stairwell as he looks down on the students fleeing outside.
    He then takes off the helmet, face mask, and vest. He drops the gun.
    He has on a short sleeve maroon colored school shirt…so that he can fit in with the other students.
    He walks down the stairs and out the door with the other students. There is a witness to this.
    He walks along the road to a store to get a drink and the to another store to get food. He is on video doing this.

    He has a long, violent history. He posted on social media that he was going to do this.
    Why would anyone think that he wouldn’t or couldn’t?

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    • Tejas Rob says:

      Yeah, I’m sure Cruz was the shooter. My only question is was he the only one. At least a couple of students have said there was more than one shooter. It’s very possible they were confused on the timing, however one girl said she was walking out with Cruz, and she seemed to know Cruz quite well, and heard gunshots.

      I still wonder about the report his younger brother was taken to a mental facility after this. I’d like to know where he was during the shooting.

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    • Maquis says:

      So there was someone watching him put his gun together? His weapon was not yet in commision, yet a kid ran away when he could have tackled him. Did that kid warn others? I know. It was a kid. Still, that frosts me.

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  19. Benson II says:

    Even if he was wearing armor he was not an experienced person so if anyone had been shooting at him and hitting the armor or even closely around him he would have panicked. Armor or no if someone had been actively firing at him he could have been stopped. Legs and arms don’t have armor so constant firing could have hit him in those areas to. At the very least he would have been distracted from murdering students.
    Maybe the police couldn’t have been of much help even if they’d entered the school because by the time they found where he was there would have been much damage already done. Armed teachers or other adults at the scene could have really helped. This is no reason to accept the cowardice of the police since I don’t know where the shootings took place and it could have been near where they should have entered.or even if that was not the case they should have gone in.

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    • Maquis says:

      If nothing else, the four deputies should have dispersed to cover all possible exit points, if only to identify the attacker(s) as they moved out of the building. They shouldn’t have been huddled together like frightened children.

      There’re grounds here for more than fury, suspicion should be first on our radar.

      I want to know about his preparations, if they could have been observed, if they WERE observed. That could have been their heads up that the planned atrocity was going down. After all, the Broward deputies seemed remarkably prepared to do, nothing.

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  20. Zippy says:

    Nice, short summary of Sundance’s columns on the subject:

    February 26, 2018
    Incompetence Wasn’t the Problem in Broward County
    By Jack Cashill

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/incompetence_wasnt_the_problem_in_broward_county.html

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  21. lunalee says:

    So, this skinny, disturbed kid entered the building and in 60 seconds was able to don SWAT gear, get his rifle together and start shooting? This just doesn’t make sense.

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  22. georgiafl says:

    Who is the Kasky kid’s mother – he said she was the ‘mastermind’ of the whole NoNRAMoney – gun control thing?

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  23. Lurker2 says:

    Re bullying, someone I spoke to briefly was reminiscing about how things used to be in school. What we now call bullying was in the past keeping the odd ones in line. Yes there were occasional egregious real bullying cases, but vast majority of cases that we would now hastily classify as “bullying” were absolutely not. The guy also said he was spanked, and I was too, but now it could land a parent in jail. Parenting and schooling goes soft and we have an increase in school shooting and kids who “need” to be medicated. Are they correlated? I think so.

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    • Zippy says:

      There is a -HUGE- difference between bullying then and now – back then, after school and during the summer, continuous bullying could be mostly avoided. Now, a person can be bullied 24/7 in emails, texts, and social media.

      People who don’t give a damn about what others think of them will simply ignore the garbage and it will eventually end for the same reason trolls in forums only keep it up if people DON’T ignore them. If they’re ignored they get bored and find another target. Unfortunately for most youth, they care very much (TOO much) what their peers think of them, so 24/7 bullying can have a horrible effect.

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  24. Ziiggii says:

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    • TwoLaine says:

      Sorry, I don’t trust Florida to investigate Florida. They called Parkland their safest city, and we all know the only reason it qualifies is because the BSO FUDGES THE NUMBERS and HAS FOR YEARS. It is the BHO way.

      The question is, who can we trust? I think I would send in Sheriff Joe.

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  25. brenrod says:

    and he did not say anything about any body armor

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  26. Ziiggii says:

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    • Ziiggii says:

      However, the allegations that Mr. Peterson was a coward and that his performance, under the circumstances, failed to meet the standards of police officers are patently untrue. Mr. Peterson is confident that his actions on that day were appropriate under the circumstances and that the video (together with the eye-witness testimony of those on the scene) will exonerate him of any sub-par performance.

      In the statement they make a point by point counter argument to the Sheriff’s statements in the 22nd news conference. Here’s just a few:

      Upon arriving at 1200 Building Mr. Peterson “heard gunshots but believed that those
      gunshots were originating from outside of any of the buildings on the school campus.”

      “The first police officer that arrived on-scene was from the Coral Springs Police
      Department.” Mr. Peterson informed this Coral Springs Police Officer that he “thought
      that the shots were coming from outside.” This Coral Springs Police Officer took up a
      tactical position (approximately twenty yards away from Mr. Peterson) behind a tree with
      his rifle.

      “Radio transmissions indicated that there was a gunshot victim in the area of the football field,” which served to confirm Mr. Peterson’s belief “that the shooter, or shooters, were outside.”

      Mr. Peterson provided his keys to the Coral Springs SWAT team so that they could enter the 1200 Building.

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      • Blacksmith8 says:

        So…
        howz come the Coral Springs folks wanted to enter the building?
        What prompted the coward peterson before he “provided his keys”?
        Why didn’t the coward peterson go toward the football field to find the victim?

        When did the coward peterson get the order to shelter in place?

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  27. TwoLaine says:

    GAG, Runcie is on FNC.

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  28. pattyloo says:

    i just listened to Andrew Pollack’s comments, both at the PDJT listening event and on Chris Wallace. He makes so much sense. Why would the government go to such great (and necessary) lengths to protect federal bldgs, airports, etc, but leave schools unguarded? Is this a federal vs. local funding thing? i know that in Chicago, some schools DO have metal detectors. I think it started in the high-crime neighborhoods. I even recall some parents complaining that ‘why should my child have to go thru a metal detector’? I think that they were really saying ‘why aren’t the police keeping the kids safe?’, which is what Mr. Pollack is saying!

    Then i saw that people were attacking Mr. Pollack based on his Trump t-shirt that he was wearing when he showed up at the school on the day of the shooting. Google placed snopes near the top of the search results for Andrew Pollack, and wouldn’t you know that snopes says it’s not true. yeah, no one was attacking Mr. Pollack ‘directly’. They were just criticizing his support for Pres. Trump. They also said that because he doesn’t have a twitter account, none of the attacks were directed at him personally!

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  29. oddknot awaits The Flood says:

    It is all on the security tapes. If they are never revealed to a neutral 3rd party to describe what occurred, then Deep State FF is the conclusion for many, present company included. OTH, how can such an operation be contained with so many witnesses?

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  30. Ziiggii says:

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  31. Ziiggii says:

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  32. Totally Domestic says:

    Why building 12? Cruz asked to be dropped off there.

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  33. jeff says:

    STONEWALLING now replacing GASLIGHTING

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  34. The more I hear about this shooting and the lack of information about Vegas the sicker the feeling in my stomach gets. WE are in trouble and WE had better start working together WE had better do some serious soul searching and research before WE vote in any more elections.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Exactly. Sick gut feeling. And anger on my part.

      This is why:

      The left has been allowed to grab the spotlight, drive the narrative, make political hay about guns and raise lots $$$ out of this tragedy/travesty.

      As they said in the child’s book, Madeleine: “Something is not right!”

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  35. 4sure says:

    This site is being over run w/tinfoil hat loonies. Don’t you nuts have anything useful to occupy your time.

    Geesh. You are giving CTH a bad name.

    A disturbed young man who had been ignored by the commies acceding to the local NAACP to make their black trouble making gang banging hoodie members look normal went into a school, shot it up, killing 17 students while the BSO stood down and then used the results of their lefty loony policy to call for a ban on guns sums it up.

    No need to invent all kinds of loony theories and make this site look like a tinfoil hat cult hangout.

    Focus your energy on the far leftist policies that have unintended consequences of harming and killing innocent people. Lefties never consider the unintended consequences because they are so far superior to us that they KNOW their policies will never fail and will never harm anyone.

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  36. georgiafl says:

    Attention David Hogg (and Cameron Kasky too):

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  37. Ziiggii says:

    “I’m Madeline Wilford,” she said, and then paused for about 15 seconds. “And I’d just like to say that I’m so grateful to be here.”

    Her recovery, according the doctors, is remarkable, and they expect her to make a full recovery and go back to school next week. She sustained some ligament damage to her right hand — the one she uses for writing and shooting basketballs as a member of the girl’s basketball team.

    She will undergo rehabilitation on her hand in the coming weeks but is expected to be able to eventually regain full motion in her hand.

    She was discharged Wednesday, only 7 days after arriving at the hospital in critical condition. The family was escorted back to Parkland, four officers on motorcycle, and three Chevy Tahoes behind them, and traffic was briefly halted on the Sawgrass Expressway.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-shooting-survivor-leaves-hospital-20180225-story.html

    This is Jalen Martin’s friend and neighbor….

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  38. Ziiggii says:

    Three media companies filed a lawsuit Monday to try to force authorities to release of security video footage from the exterior of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School to shed light on the actions — or inaction — of law enforcement during the massacre.

    The South Florida Sun Sentinel, The Miami Herald and CNN filed the civil lawsuit in Broward Circuit Court, citing Florida’s public records law. The lawsuit names the Broward Sheriff’s Office and the School Board of Broward County, as well as Sheriff Scott Israel and Superintendent Robert Runcie, in their official roles, as defendants.

    The lawsuit seeks access to video from cameras outside the Parkland school on the day of the mass shooting and cites the “extreme public interest” in figuring out precisely what happened.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-lawsuit-video-broward-sheriff-20180226-story.html

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    • Charlotte says:

      Oh please. Those videos had a lag of at least 20 mins and may have been wiped by now to cover up what happened.
      They’d best read Sundance’s expose of the whole negligent crime enabling district.
      Maybe someone should send it to them.

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  39. Curious says:

    Maybe someone has addressed this already but can someone explain what the driver of the police truck threw out the window and what excuse would there be for contaminating the crime scene?

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  40. Charlotte says:

    So whats this?
    Florida Student: Police Firing Blanks Before School Shooting

    http://thewashingtonstandard.com/florida-student-police-firing-blanks-school-shooting/

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    • Charlotte says:

      Every day that passes seems to indicate that what took place at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas school shooting was nothing more than a false flag attack. The latest comes via another interview with a student from the school who said they were told to prepare for a “shooting drill” where police would be firing blanks in order to scare them just as if it were real.

      Connor Dietrich coming by way of fake news network CNN said that police would be firing blanks for a live drill.
      So.
      Did Cruz know there was to be a drill and took advantage of it to kill 17 people? Who told him? How did he get his gear into the school when there was a drill-surely there must have been people who saw him?

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      • cali says:

        @Charlotte: I agree with you that it was a false flag attack!

        A teacher speaking out after coming feet away with an actual shooter stated that he was in full gear: Swat uniform, Kevlar vest, Mask and helmet while holding a rifle she had never seen before. She also stated that she told her children to remain in the class room while this shooter encouraged them to come out so they could be rescued.
        All but one student budged and wanted to exit. As soon as this student made it to the exit door the shooter immediately shot and killed that student.
        Distraught this same teacher saw another teacher across the hall trying to see out of the classroom door. He too was immediately shot and died.
        That shooter proceeded to shoot several rounds into each teachers classroom and murdered two students in her class room as well as in the classroom across the hall.

        It is my belief that Nikolas Cruz did not shoot any of these students and as reported by three different witnesses shots were fired while Cruz, Alexa and a couple of others exited the building on the back of the building. While walking away they continued to hear shuts fired.
        Nikolas Cruz would have to schlepp gear, helmet, rifle and Swat uniform to the school while riding Uber. He would have 2 mins to change from his regular clothing into the swat uniform and the rest and proceed to the 3rd floor because that is where the teacher was with her students. It’s impossible.

        Mind you and while it is miniscule the surveillance camera at the entry of the school was removed 3 days prior to the shooting. It is the only way into the building and would have captured each and every person that entered the building.
        On the other hand if one plans a false flag masking who all entered besides students it would have captured that.
        Nikolas Cruz was a very vulnerable kid, autistic, depressed about his mom’s passing, transitioning from psychotropic drugs etc and a perfect target to frame. He was on the radar by law enforcement. What the media did not report is the fact that his mom before passing often called police officers because she thought to scare him a little bit but also to have male figures talk to Nikolas.
        The family Nikolas lived before the shooting said the opposite from the media’s reporting: polite, loving their animals, followed rules, locked up his guns in the case the family provided, worked and caused no problems.
        Who’s to say that Nikolas went to that school because he either received a call or was told otherwise to show up. The surveillance camera was removed ergo Nikolas arrival was not captured.
        It is also my belief that Nikolas was set-up to take the fall and not make it our alive. Children really died that day and Nikolas most like get the death penalty since his plea was rejected. Should he be murdered by the state to shield the actual murderers?
        Will the agents of the deep state get away again with murdering children to get what they ultimately want: the removal of the 2nd Amendment rights granted by the constitution?
        Children are targeted for a reason and that is because it will result with the revocation owning guns for every American citizens?

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  41. Ono says:

    David Hogg in Rendo Beach Ca.?

    Always has his video going.

    Not sure of validity here. I live in Ca and do not watch TV

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    • That is Liddle David acting tough in his “role” as rider of justice on his liddle pony. What no one has discussed is there appears to be a High School year book photo showing Liddle David graduating from a HS in CA in 2015. Now, is it valid. I don’t have a membership to look at the online yearbook site to verify. There were posts from others saying they went to high school with him and claimed the same before someone posted the yearbook posting. Either a great photoshop done very quickly or its real.

      There is also an arrest photo of a David Hogg in South Carolina for pot and cocaine. Sure looks like him, could just be a coincidence. doppleganger look alike. with same name David Hogg. Dude has long black hair and looks dopey in the mugshot

      There are lots of anons digging hard on this liddle boy. They may have found something else. Nothing I am gonna say though until it has more meat.

      Liddle David is going to mess up, he thinks he can do no wrong and his news bunnies groupies might pillow talk. Or perhaps a new friend will turn out to work for Project Veritas.

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  42. Charlotte says:

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  43. Charlotte says:

    Fla AG Bondi says she knows ‘a lot more’ on shooting but can’t say: Sheriff’s office lied to me and governor
    Appearing on “Fox & Friends” early Monday, Bondi said Gov. Rick Scott has ordered a “full investigation” into Sheriff Scott Israel’s handling of last week’s shooting, saying “some people” are not being honest.
    Sheriff Israel told CNN’s Jake Tapper on Sunday, “I can’t tell you anything about that,” when asked if a stand down order had ben given to his deputies.
    Fox & Friends” host Steve Doocy asked Bondi the same question about a stand down order.

    “I can’t talk about that,” Bondi replied.

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/02/26/fla-ag-bondi-says-knows-lot-shooting-cant-say-sheriffs-office-lied-governor-607420

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  44. Charlotte says:

    If it was one of my kids who was shot, I would be gathering a crowd of a few hundred people and marching on that bastard with PITCHFORKS
    They’d have to call in the National Guard
    They couldn’t do anything to the relatives of the dead kids

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  45. Elle says:

    From a post above..”..He enters the school and pulls the fire alarm.
    He gets his gun ready first…one student reported seeing him do this. He told that student to get out because things were going to get bad. The student ran outside.
    Cruz then puts on a vest, mask, and helmet.
    He starts shooting…goes up a floor…continues shooting…goes up a floor…tries to shoot through the hurricane glass in the stairwell as he looks down on the students fleeing outside.
    He then takes off the helmet, face mask, and vest. He drops the gun.
    He has on a short sleeve maroon colored school shirt…so that he can fit in with the other students.
    He walks down the stairs and out the door with the other students. There is a witness to this.
    He walks along the road to a store to get a drink and the to another store to get food. He is on video doing this.”

    I don’t know how valid the above is, but if valid, something is very wrong with this story. I’ve always scoffed at the zero-hedge type false flag stories, but after Charlottesville and Las Vegas, my mind is open a teeny, tiny, crack to the idea. This story is becoming much like the LV shooting, nonsensical in what we are being told. One would expect that Cruz might die inside the building, either putting a bullet in his brain or by getting killed by law enforcement. But if there is a chance for a second shooter, it might have occurred to that individual that Cruz was a likely suspect, why not kill him and let him take all the blame? But Cruz unexpectedly just left the scene. And So, Officer Peterson is there by the door, with a gun, watching who comes out, and never goes in…just waiting and watching. Not going to spend much time here on Crazy Street, but it is so odd that Peterson continued watching the door. Ahh, but wouldn’t it have been great if he had recognized Cruz and had shot him or detained him? What a hero he would have been! What a different story this would have been. But yet, that did not happen because Cruz dropped his gun and left the scene, either unrecognized or by going out a different door. Who eventually found Cruz? Was it the BSO?

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting this was a false-flag operation. I’m just saying that if what was reported above is true, then something is not right here. There has to be more to this story than what we are being told.

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