February 17th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #394

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1,322 Responses to February 17th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #394

  1. ForGodandCountry says:

    Here is the liberal mindset in one tweet….note how it ends….

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    • Blacksmith8 says:

      So apparently the rudepundit has absolutely NO ONE on this earth that ‘he’ would defend to his own death, or stand in the way, or intervene, or dare I say use a gun to keep someone else alive.

      How sad for ‘him’ to live in a bleak world without love.

      I will pray for ‘him’.

      But I do have one question for the dumbest pundit on the planet: Who are you going to send for my guns (that I may or may not have)?

      you? don’t make me laugh.

      you and a few hundred of your zombie/lib/prog/dhimm followers? are you sure I don’t have that many bullets?

      Oh I get it. liddle rude boy isn’t going to actually do ANYTHING. He’ just wanting to wail in public.

      pro tip rude boy: for every ONE of you, there are 8 of me and my kin (that’s immediate family only not counting inlaws, grands, cousins, or nieces and nephews)

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      • The Boss says:

        Don’t waste ammo on a loser like Rude Pundit. Just keep writing “TRUMP” in sidewalk chalk everywhere you can. Eventually, SOBs like Rude Pundit will jump off a bridge or lay on the railroad tracks. It will be kind of like illegal aliens who are self-deporting. Just a bit messier.

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        • the other reason protesters like the Bay Area
          1 million people can be disturb by a mother feeding a baby on bridge on railroad in Parks
          during commute dropped sunglasses means 500 cold dinners for late commuters

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      • I thought it was a parody account..haha….guess not…

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        • Sedanka says:

          He’s Canadian, which makes him even less relevant to this topic.

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          • Charlotte says:

            Australia banned guns after the Port Arthur massacre.
            HOWEVER the muslime gangs and biker gangs ALL HAVE GUNS.

            Look how many guns there are in Sydney–more in the west where the Muslimes live:
            It is shocking.
            So no, banning guns doesn’t work. They smuggle them in, the make them in machine workshops.
            All Australian police are armed because all the criminals are armed.

            NZ police are not armed. There are guns in NZ though and every time there is a shoot up/armed standoff the Armed Offenders Squad is called in.

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    • And then will come shotguns, semi auto hand guns, revolvers.
      Then it will be 8in chef knives and baseball bats.
      Then we can outlaw all martial arts, boxing and MMA, and of course weight lifting.

      So now whats left?
      Mental illness that isn’t being addressed and criminal behavior.

      You don’t see, at least I never have, an organized mob of guns taking over the streets to promote the sale of more bullets to get rich.
      But you do see organized gangs of drug dealers protecting their area with the use of violence and guns to make money.

      No one ever talks about banning cars because some people drive drunk, do they?
      This kid should have never been allowed to own a gun. At the very least at some point it should have been taken from him for the protection of others or himself.

      Rude Pundant, is conflating two separate issues and not coming to grips with the root cause of the problem.
      His hate for guns and how much contempt he has for gun owners is obvious.

      But not one person on the left has given one line or thought that this guy showed all the signs of mental illness.
      You see, we can get people to fight over gun control.
      But no one wants to start a conversation about the mental health crisis in America.

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    • Sgt Stryker says:

      I sure hope that “The Rude Pundit” understands that his plan won’t get past Step #2.
      III/0317

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  2. Publius2016 says:

    Where exactly did the Parkland Shooter get the money??? “When Cruz took an Uber to the high school Wednesday, he was an orphan, was effectively homeless, worked as a clerk in a dollar store, and had no nest egg following the short sale of his family home. But he had been able to walk into a Broward County gun shop a year ago and pay more than $600 in cash to buy the gun new. And spent even more at other shops for the murderous arsenal of bullets and ammo magazines he carried with him Wednesday as he allegedly mowed down screaming teens.”
    Btw, his younger brother by one year was just committed to MENTAL INSTITUTION?

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    • blind no longer says:

      Excellent question. I ask that myself. Pay for the gun, multiple rounds of ammo, gun license etc. How did he get that kind of money? Unless someone who was “caring” for him was receiving social security benefits from the deceased parents for the kid. If that’s the case I would supect they would also have some legal responsibilty in all this.

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      • Sylvia Avery says:

        He was an adult and as far as I know didn’t have a guardian because as far as I know he hadn’t been declared legally incompetent. Here’s the deal on SS for orphans:

        “The parent must have worked at least 10 years and paid some Social Security tax in their lifetime. The child must also be unmarried.The child must be under the age of 18 or up to age 19 if still in high school. Children with disabilities–physical, mental or developmental–can receive survivor benefits as long as the disability was diagnosed before his or her 22nd birthday.”

        Seems like I read his mom was a stay at home mom and his dad, who died about eight years ago had been in advertising. So I have no idea what all of this would mean for this Cruz. Was he officially considered to have disabilities? I kind of doubt it since he was working at the dollar store and was able to legally buy a gun. However, I did read an article this morning that said he was under some kind of medical care.

        “One report in particular, from January 15, 2013, stands out for showing the then-14-year-old’s volatile temper….

        During that visit, the mom also told cops that Nikolas had a “history of developmental and learning disabilities,” including Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and was “increasingly irate.”

        Nikolas was cuffed and seated in the back of a police car as the cops interviewed his mom, CNN reported.

        A counselor from the nearby behavioral health facility where Cruz had been a client for years showed up and “gave Nikolas his prescribed medication,” the report said, after which the boy “began to calm down and cooperated.”…”

        https://nypost.com/2018/02/17/school-gunman-has-history-of-abusing-his-mother/

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        • blind no longer says:

          Thanks for the info Sylvia. I know every a person can receive SSD even if they have never worked if they are found incompetent or medically disabled. I thought since both parents were deceased he might have a payee for benefits and perhaps this is how he got the money.

          From your great post, there is NO WAY IN HELL, this disturbed individual should have ever gotten a gun legally. Somebody in the mental health system dropped the ball as well as law enforcement.

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    • Lulu says:

      600 dollars is not a lot of money when you don’t pay rent etc.

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      • Blacksmith8 says:

        but the family he was living with had absolutely no idea he even had a gun

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        • Sylvia Avery says:

          I did read a different version of events. They knew he had a gun but weren’t happy about it and made him keep it in a locked cabinet. Sigh.

          Apparently when he turned 18 he had a big ruckus with his mom because he wanted to get a state ID card so he could buy a guy (so obviously he didn’t have a Driver’s license?) and she didn’t want him to have one so he showed her by cutting himself. So, I don’t know if he waited till she died to get his ID or what.

          After her death in November he and his crazy younger brother went to live with a family friend and she ended up kicking him out because she didn’t want him to have a gun.

          I think it was then he ended up with the people in the trailer park…but I wouldn’t swear to it.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          The first family he went to objected to the gun so he went to live with another friend of the family who made him lock the gun away.

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          • Bull Durham says:

            Someone in this kid’s life needed to take him to church, when young.

            Trying to raise a child without a spiritual life is playing roulette with the outcome.

            The child often has no conscience and becomes a problem to himself and to society.
            A few become time bombs.
            This one went off.

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      • kea says:

        They say most people don’t even have $400 in the bank… so yes I ask where he got this from.

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      • steelbreeze7 says:

        Zactly!

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      • Cuppa Covfefe says:

        Whoa. He has the same eyes as his brother.

        You have to wonder why. What medication is he on? Is there a genetic problem? Those aren’t “Marty Feldman Eyes” (which are a genetic problem), but they’re by no means normal…

        I don’t think “mainstreaming” folks with mental health issues is a good idea. I also don’t think drugging the daylights out of folks is a solution, either, especially when the side effects, interactions, and indeed the uncertainty of efficacy of treatment is considered.

        Just look at the package inserts for medications (antibiotics, blood-pressure pills, ACE-Inhibitors, etc.). ALL of them have warnings about interactions or contraindications with regard to psychotropic meds.

        One drug researcher spoke of these meds as “we don’t know exactly HOW they work, just THAT they work. Usually…”.

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  3. Sylvia Avery says:

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/02/17/hero-coach-aaron-feiss-fb-page-shows-trump-supporter-believed-god-country-603599

    “…there was a rush to connect the 19-year-old shooter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL, to President Donald Trump.

    Turns out, the true Trump supporter was one of the heroes who was shot and killed when, according to the students he saved, he placed his body between the sick killer and children in harm’s way…”

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  4. zephyrbreeze says:

    A system that could let such a severe warning fall through the cracks, is no system at all. Why don’t multiple people listen to that call in line? Why aren’t multiple reports generated sent up to multiple people who can catch it, so that if one person misses the significance, others will be sure to notice.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-under-scrutiny-over-russia-and-clinton-probes-faces-new-criticism-for-failure-to-act-before-florida-shooting/2018/02/17/5d8cc8fa-13fa-11e8-8ea1-c1d91fcec3fe_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fbi-210p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.39cf614dcb66

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  5. evadouglas says:

    The Russian dossier on Bernie Sanders claims Putin sent three hookers up to Sanders’ hotel room, but the only person Sanders pee’d on was himself, just before he passed out with his mouth full of oatmeal.— James Comey Colluded with the Russian’s Dossier (@NolteNC) February 17, 2018

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

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  6. Bull Durham says:

    Interesting naval operations in the Black Sea. US is testing the Russians.
    Very good article that details the provocation by US Navy 6th Fleet weeks before the Russian Presidential Election.

    Both US Destroyers are about six seconds from scrap metal if someone makes a mistake.
    Russia has missiles that have a flight time of seconds almost anywhere in the Black Sea.

    With electronic spy planes flying the edges and sometimes over territorial waters, Global Eagle drones, and other platforms trying to entice an Electronic Weapons response, in order to grab a profile of the system, the US is in very dangerous situation.

    The mentally deranged do things like this. Crimea is protected by nukes. The southern district and western district are loaded to the gills in defense of the borders and the big cities of Russia.

    And geniuses in the Pentagon are pushing and poking.

    http://thesaker.is/the-black-sea-development-navy-brief-2-18-february-2018/?inmoderation

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    • lawrencepaul1 says:

      The neocons have been trying to provoke Putin into a rash move for years. He is much to smart to fall for it.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      And of course, Russia never does anything wrong, never, ever, ever, ever.

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      • phoenixRising says:

        are they on our doorstep?
        we’re on theirs…

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        • ForGodandCountry says:

          As a matter of fact, yes, they are. In fact, since Trump was inaugurated Russia has greatly increased it’s provocative actions towards the US.

          This has been widely reported on, like this incident…

          http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/04/us-air-force-jets-intercept-russian-bombers-fighter-jets-near-alaska.html

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          • phoenixRising says:

            I’m talking LITERALLY on their doorsteps…

            Who made Russia an enemy? HRC through Vickie Nuland (BIG NEOCON) pushed NATO to Russia’s borders… against guidelines for NATO period. They poked the Bear for 8 yrs.

            When HRC started her campaign for President it was Russia, Russia… she thought she was going to win, and she planned to go to war against Russia. I’m anti-war myself.

            You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but the other person’s entitled to theirs too. No need to denigrate them because you disagree.

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            • cjzak says:

              A question I’ve asked for a long time. Why make Russia the bad guy and why do we need to go that route. They may not be our best buddies but what have they done to provoke this unrelenting interest and antagonism from the left?

              Russia is not nearly as dangerous as some of the Muslim controlled countries imo. They are shifty bastar## in a lot of ways and bear keeping an eye on but the hype over them seems way out of proportion. Did the left not realize that Russia was the great enemy years ago when Krushchev and his band of merry men had grandiose ideas of ruling the world. The motive of all this commotion about Russia seems very suspiciously like a made up scenario to disrupt us over very little. The left never has a rational idea in their heads.

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            • ForGodandCountry says:

              “Who made Russia an enemy?”

              Not who. What.

              A: Communist ideology.

              And Putin is a communist. And he controls Russia like a mafia boss, up to and including murdering anyone who gets in his way.

              Communism didn’t die in Russia with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Ideologies don’t die so easily. We only wish they did.

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              • thedoc00 says:

                If one takes time to read history, every leader of the Soviet Union and now Russia, after Lenin, was a key member or leader of the Secrete Police or Sate Security, then NKVD and now KGB/FSB. Everyone one of them earned their bones as hard core agents for the Mother Russia and did their fair share of killing in her name before joining the politburo or going into politics.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          If you count spy ships, planes and subs being on our doorstep… or forays into Alaska… then yes, Russia is on our doorstep. We also have allies who have russia on their doorsteps.

          Sorry, but I am fed up with this “Putin is a Saint” meme. He is NOT a saint. Yes, it would be awesome if US/Russia relations could be on a better footing – but Putin is only out for Russia, not world peace. His latest practice of using “non-military” soldiers for his invasions… well, not passing the smell test any more.

          He has murdered journalists, those who oppose him… and he won’t let anyone run for his office without arresting them and making sure they have “charges” against them to make them seem to be criminals.

          Make no mistake, if Putin thought he could get away with it, he would invade the US.

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      • lawrencepaul1 says:

        Well did they destroy Iraq based on a lie? or Libya? or Syria? Did they move their military right up against our borders in Mexico and Canada? No never, ever, ever, ever. Washington has placed our troops on Russia’s borders not the other way around.
        Washington is the cause of death and suffering all over the world.
        And please Sandra don’t use the Crimea/Ukraine/Syria because all of these events were a response to criminal CIA/Neocon provocations.

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        • ForGodandCountry says:

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          • lawrencepaul1 says:

            Alrighty then

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          • phoenixRising says:

            I used to follow Thomas Wictor… but he writes about war all the time. And from a very biased pov, in opinion, so I don’t read him anymore. Lately he’s been emphasizing the fact that he takes a lot of meds, and when he wrote about Parkland shooting, he berated the rest of us for not being able to tell a mentally ill person zombied out on prescription meds as he sees Cruz… Wictor said he could tell because he himself is mentally ill and is on heavy dosage of prescribed drugs. Well, I don’t go there anymore.

            So, forgive me, but I don’t consider Wictor a good source.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          Then move to Russia.

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          • lawrencepaul1 says:

            Because they don’t want to invalid us? I need a better reason than that to move somewhere.
            Washington is not America. I would not live in Washington if I were given a free house and a pension. There are still parts of America that I consider the best place in the world to live. Washington’s foreign policy stints and it has since Vietnam don’t judge the rest of America on what Washington does.

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            • Zennalou says:

              I’ve read all these post about Russia, Russia, Russia

              IMO this man is more dangerous and he is no longer even in power– Every week there are articles about Human Incineration Camp in Mexico and that bast*** has the nerve—-I can’t say what I want about Vicente or I’ll get banned.

              Fmr Mexican President Fox: FL School Shooting ‘What You Get’ When ‘Aggressive, Violent Language’ Comes From WH

              On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” former Mexican President Vicente Fox commented on the Parkland, FL school shooting by stating, “when you speak out of the White House this aggressive, violent language, when you discriminate, when you’re a racist, that’s what you get.”

              Fox answered a question on coarse rhetoric from world leaders by saying, “Well, some take the initiative, [and] others react. And speaking about this sad, very sad event in Florida these days, when you speak out of the White House this aggressive, violent language, when you discriminate, when you’re a racist, that’s what you get. That’s what you get. We need harmony. We need love. We need happy communities. And those concepts don’t come out of his mouth. What comes out of his mouth is what you said.”

              http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/17/fmr-mexican-president-fox-fl-school-shooting-what-you-get-when-aggressive-violent-language-comes-from-wh/

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              • dutzie60 says:

                Who the he!! is he speaking for as “WE”? What WE need Mr. Fox is for YOU to get your azz back on the other side of the border and stay there. What a POS and who does he think he is? Some Potentate of the United States of America?

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        • Blacksmith8 says:

          “Washington is the cause of death and suffering all over the world.”

          See that’s what I was talking about the other day. Sometimes….

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      • Bull Durham says:

        Gorbachev and Yeltsin were big mistakes.
        They listened to Western economic advisers for two decades, a big mistake.

        As for wrong, in provoking others like the Hegemon does? No. I don’t see it.
        I see paranoia in the Baltics and paranoia in many of the Warsaw Pact nations.
        But Russia is being reached out to by most every nation not caught in the NATO/EU trap.

        Nation after nation travel to Russia to get reliable help.
        Even some of “our friends and coalition partners” have close ties and integration of efforts in economics, trade and geopolitics.

        OPEC, BRICS, SCO, EAEU, ASEAN are huge partners of Russia.

        Russia is perceived as no threat to its closest neighbors in Central Asia and South Asia.
        Even Afghanistan wants Russia to help, and it is with splitting the Taliban forces, some of which are negotiating with Kabul through the Russian diplomacy.

        As for nazified Ukraine–they are trying to ethnically cleanse Donbass. So who started that?

        Georgia did the same, killing Russians in South Ossetia. Russia stepped in and ended that in four days.

        So, when we look at the facts, Russia does not act belligerently.
        But if you want a fight, they’ll blow you up.

        And, they are a Christian nation.

        They have had a hand extended to the US for 19 years.

        The government of the US acts the way it does with them, worse each week.
        Most people who know the military of the Russian Federation think anyone looking for a war with them is asking for catastrophic outcome.

        That’s what some of us know. They can’t defeat the US in a WW. They can destroy us. That is a huge difference. There will be no victory. There will be an end to life on Earth.
        Cross the border, threaten the Russian homeland and its people, and there will be a nuclear response of totality.

        None of this is warranted. The Black Sea is their lake. All the tripwires around the Sea are no more than minutes, many just seconds before Tomahawks fly as offensive warheads in missile defenses (Aegis Ashore), or Tochka or Iskander missiles or Kalibr cruise missiles fly against US ships and NATO installations.

        And from there, it’s 20 minutes to the end of the world. SATAN II’s take out Texas with one missile. Each nation can destroy the other ten times over.

        All at risk right at the border of Russia, not the border of the US.

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        • ForGodandCountry says:

          So you’re saying Trump, as CinC, doesn’t understand all that and/or is being badly advised by his Sec Def James Mattis….the two men who are controlling those destroyers presently in the Black Sea?

          Please….elaborate. How are they wrong? Not being snarky…you clearly know a lot.

          But, I think it’s safe to say none of us know all of what they are basing their decision(s) here upon, and anyone here is 2nd guessing them.

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          • Bull Durham says:

            McMaster is the father of the policy. Mattis doesn’t want a war. McMaster wants to pressure China and Russia at every pressure point.

            What I am saying is this is fact and it has not good purpose for us, for others in the region or for humanity. It is very risky stuff.

            Do we have a right to patrol through the Black Sea? By international treaty, yes, for 21 days and then ships have to leave. But we add to it the press of drones, spy planes and other actions that put the Russians on razor’s edge.

            Imagine the same happening in the Gulf of Mexico. Or inside the Channel Island off California. 12 miles isn’t even half the distance from Catalina to LA. What if two Chinese and two Russian warships suddenly played in that channel for 21 days. With spy planes and drones flying right at our borders.

            What’s going on?

            Read McMasters’ stuff, watch his videos. He’s a full blown warmonger.

            Great wars can get started by small incidents. Russia is not to be pushed around.
            And China is building up the same sense, though they have nothing like the Russian history and capabilities. They have a huge land army. They really can’t project what the Russians can.

            This isn’t Libya or Syria or Belgrade. This is a nation that will not be pushed in its own front yard.

            To what end do the planners of these operations think they are achieving?

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            • ForGodandCountry says:

              And all I’m saying is If you have to those questions….and they are very good questions, btw…then you don’t know the rational behind having 2 US destroyers et al in the Black Sea. In fact, none of us do, and they can only be guessed at.

              Maybe McMaster is behind it all. But McMaster doesn’t control the military or policy…Trump does. And PDJT has what is probably the best Sec. Def. in many generations at his side. What you seem to be implying is that both Trump and Mattis are being duped or controlled by McMaster. And I sincerely doubt that, for any number of reasons.

              Does either Trump or Mattis seem like men who get duped very easily? Please show me your evidence. I am open to seeing it for consideration.

              In the meantime, Sundance likes to talk about fact patterns. Well, the fact pattern, since Trump took office, is one which gives us VERY good evidence that both Trump and Mattis are excellent at what they do and that our Nat. Sec. is in very good hands. For example, in the 1 year since Trump took office, ISIS has been decimated everywhere it used to prowl like a unchained wolf (this following years of ISIS growth and spread under Obama).

              If Trump and Mattis….who combined have FAR more intel, experience, and understanding of what is really going on…believe it’s a good idea to have those 2 destroyers in the Black Sea, then I think it’s a safe bet that yes….it’s a good idea.

              Here’s what I know for certain….they would NOT be there without Trump’s or Mattis’ approval.

              It is fair to ask “What is going on?”. I’d like to know more about that myself. However, it is an entirely different thing to make statements like “The mentally deranged do things like this!”. That is concern trolling.

              Trump and Mattis are not mentally deranged. Nor is McMaster “controlling” or “duping” them.

              I hope you can read this as a neutral response in a conversation, not an attack upon you or your opinion. It is neither. Some here have a very difficult time with counter-arguments. I don’t think you are one of them.

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              • Bull Durham says:

                I enjoy the discourse. I never take a opposing opinion personally. I may have a strong opinion, but I don’t think that makes it correct or precious. We have Free Speech to pursue the Truth, seek answers, find solutions, uncover lies and deceptions.

                I often post these topics that upset the traditional acceptance of government. But I don’t expect to be accepted as an oracle. Sometimes I just want to provoke thought.
                I am a big believer that many minds is superior on public policy than one. I eschew ideology. I like wide open free thinking and the diversity of experiences on a forum rich with voices from anywhere. It’s amazing what you learn when you are challenged.

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        • formerdem says:

          I think Russia’s neighbors are, too, nervous of them. This does not mean I am ready to hate them but let’s call it what it is. Rumors that when the Russian generals are drunk they tell the neighbors they are going to come and get them back. In vino veritas. They are in the process of converting I hope. But as we know it all can come as quite a surprise, all the demands of faith, such as laying ambition aside, loving everybody, all that stuff. They have got to not crucifying priests anymore, rebuilding churches, and being aware about not committing adultery ideally. But it all takes time. This is how it looks to me. what do i know.

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          • smartyjones1 says:

            They are definitely nervous. The dead in east Ukraine however are not nervous. There are well over 10,000 dead so their days of being nervous are over.

            Finland is nervous. Poland is nervous. The Baltic States are nervous. Russia is talking about its demands that Soviet era monuments not be removed and that it can act to defend Russian interests there as there are Russian nationals living in those nations.

            They applied the same ideology in east Ukraine. The Little Green Men have removed many thousands of people from ever being nervous again.

            Putin is not some neutral actor. He had a hand in the attack on US allies and forces on the other side of the Euphrates in Syria; a designated demarcation line.

            Gen. Mattis and our fine troops kicked the living crap out of them. The Russians and their mercenary allies with the Assad regime decided to make a move there. The message they tried to send was returned to sender.

            At least 20% of the 500 reported attackers were repelled permanently. They won’t be nervous about attacking US backed allies who crushed ISIS again.

            The US has a great Defense Secretary and great President. They aren’t nervous.

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            • formerdem says:

              Ok that sounds like a voice that truly knows. Listen to him.

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            • formerdem says:

              Just to be clear, I was not saying the neighbors are too nervous meaning “excessively.” I was saying they are too nervous in the sense of INDEED nervous, since our colleague Bull was saying the neighbors are not nervous at all. Actually he was speaking of Asia but he drew broader conclusions. Anyway I was answering that the neighbors are appropriately nervous.

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    • Oldschool says:

      Thanks for your infomative (at times frightening) posts on military operations bull. Very appreciated.

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      • singingsoul says:

        I am careful what I internalize as truth. There is much misinformation propagandize and disskised . Keep you eyes and minds open and alert. Not all that shines is gold.

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  7. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  8. Publius2016 says:

    FBI gets $10 billion a year but cant follow up on Parkland Shooter after getting CALLS with name, city, YouTube Instagram Facebook etc…addresses??? Local POLICE too busy to share information too? SORRY DOESNT PASS THE SMELL TEST! Supposedly he took Uber to seen and then left for burgers???

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  9. Sylvia Avery says:

    I have been really critical of the FBI following the revelations about the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ, and reaching back to Ruby Ridge and moving forward to the Boston marathon shooters, San Bernadino, Pulse nightclub and I guess my last straw was Nikolas Cruz.

    But this link below is an interesting, informative look within the FBI for answers as to how the mess with the Cruz person could have happened. Did you know that the FBI has a Call Center for you to call when you “See Something” and want to “Say Something”? Think about that. A Call Center. Oh joy. What could possibly inspire more confidence? And there’s more…

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/02/does_the_fbi_really_have_anyone_investigating_tipoffs_about_school_shooters.html

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    • Sylvia Avery says:

      Ooops, hit send too soon. From the same article above:

      Turns out after Sandy Hook, Obama fixed the whole school shooting thing for us! What, you didn’t know that? Me either.

      “…the Obama-initiated ‘Now is the Time’ doesn’t seem to have done anything worth noting. It did spend $115 million for the initiative, according to the partner-agency linked, and another $25 million for a Mental Health Block Grant as it was called “to help states and territories develop programs to address early signs of serious mental illness, including early signs of psychosis” which might fall under the parameters of catching Cruz…”

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  10. Sylvia Avery says:

    I have had an interesting discussion with Treeper oldiadguy that I am going to repost here:

    “…after the Obama administration took over, one of the first things they did was take over all Federal hiring. This included the FBI. Look at what the Obama administration did to the Civil Rights Division over at Justice and I believe you will understand what may have happened with the FBI…”

    “I was unaware of the PAL call center as well. However, when I found the video and saw how it was setup and staffed, I can guess how this screw up may have happened. First, the call center is set up on a civilian model and not a law enforcement/911 call center model.”

    https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/fbi-public-access-line-052317.mp4/view

    “Notice the electric sign showing the service level, the number of calls waiting and for how long. Big red flag for me. These types of service calls should take as long as they take. There should not be any pressure on the call taker as was evident here. It appeared that some of the overhead monitors had the news on. We called those distractions.

    Notice at the 16 second mark the call taker typing NO FEDERAL CRIME. A big clue on what may have happened. If the call taker did not believe a Federal Crime had been committed, did the call taker “code” the call and not forward the information? Having done police misconduct investigations for over decade, I’m interested to know if the calls are recorded and exactly how the conversation went.

    If the call taker concluded that no Federal crime had occurred and it wasn’t an FBI matter, but was concerned about what the caller had said, did the call taker recommend to the caller to contact the local law enforcement authorities and advise them.

    After all, the local police department or sheriff office is better suited to handle this kind of incident and can handle it in a more timely basis than the FBI. Even if the Miami FBI Office received the information and followed up on it, they would of have had to involve the local authorities in handling the case…”

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    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Sylvia it is hard to understand how bombarded the LEO’s are with SMI and drug induced psychosis. Most agencies have to have special training.

      Most Americans do not have to deal with this on a daily basis as part of their job.

      There is evil in the world. Anyone that has worked with a criminal population knows that this is true.

      Watching it on TV is very different than dealing with it in real life. This is a very difficult subject. When people act completely nuts, insane and out-of-control is it possible to know which ones will truly act? It is not possible. If it was we would be doing it.

      I looked at Cruz in the courtroom. Very subdued. Is that what the cops saw every visit? We have no idea. That school and that community took a vicious lesson right to the heart.
      That’s a huge price to pay for them not getting it right.

      Every single state must join together and fix this problem. The mentally ill must be taken care of. It’s not a matter of when. We are already there. The question we need to answer is how. Right now!

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      • Zennalou says:

        ——When people act completely nuts, insane and out-of-control is it possible to know which ones will truly act?—–

        We have not advanced that far.

        Mental Health is one area where we have made few advances in a century. Some will say we have, but I don’t think so.

        Many of the medications don’t work and if they do the side effects are horrible.
        I worked at 2 State Hospitals in the 60’s—2 different Sates. They should not have been closed, but they needed drastic improvements.

        Something else has changed with the mentally ill since the 60’s. I was never afraid to go to work, never on tippy toe being around the mentally ill in the 60’s. Now, the people walking the streets and going in schools are sicker than those we had on locked wards in the 60’s.

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        • blind no longer says:

          Wow Zennalou,me too. I worked for 30 years as a casemanager in a state inpatient locked facility. 17 years in acute detox and 3 in long term SA tx. Then transferred to Acute Adult Mental Health and dual diagnosis after our Substance Abuse program closed. It definitely got more difficult after crack and meth came along. Also the new class of antipsychotic drugs were not as effective like the oldies.

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          • Zennalou says:

            Some of those old antipsychotic’s had horrible sides though, like Tardive Dyskinesia.

            My career was much shorter, worked at Western State while husband was stationed at Ft. Lewis.

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    • blind no longer says:

      Wow Sylvia, you are a wealth of great info. Thanks so much for the research. I guess that is why the FBI guy said wait and see what comes out before making judgement.

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    • Thank you Sylvia. Wow. they are treating this like a customer service call line. And these customer service employees, btw low man on the totem poll in any organization, determine how important a call is!!! OMG…we are frigged.

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    • Zennalou says:

      ——First, the call center is set up on a civilian model and not a law enforcement/911 call center model.”——

      Perhaps the rep answering the phone was the same or similar to the one I was rewarded with when I called the Wal Mart Grocery to Go line last week.

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  11. lawrencepaul1 says:

    This is what we are up against.

    “He Has Her Blood On His Hands” – Father Of Florida Shooting Victim Viciously Attacked Online For Supporting Trump
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-17/he-has-her-blood-his-hands-father-florida-shooting-victim-viciously-attacked

    Liked by 4 people

  12. Publius2016 says:

    Nikolas “CRUZ” is not nikolas Cruz…he is adopted! His “mother” who died was 68! Is this REAL?

    Liked by 1 person

  13. JoD says:

    Hold on to your truss…
    “America’s Sweetheart”, Lindsey Vonn, favored to win the Super G, was beaten like a rented mule.
    Let’s hear it for Ester Ledecka!!!

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  14. lawrencepaul1 says:

    CIA Argues The Public Can’t See Classified Information It Has Already Given To Favored Reporters
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/15/cia-argues-the-public-cant-see-classified-information-it-has-already-given-to-favored-reporters/

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  15. ForGodandCountry says:

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  16. lawrencepaul1 says:

    Anti-Trumpists Use Mueller Indictments to Escalate Tensions With Nuclear-Armed Russia
    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/17/anti-trumpists-use-mueller-indictments-to-escalate-tensions-with-nuclear-armed-russia/

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    • ForGodandCountry says:

      Concern trolling noted

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      • phoenixRising says:

        What are you talking about? That charge is ridiculous.

        Liked by 1 person

        • ForGodandCountry says:

          No, it’s not.

          LP quite obviously believes that either Trump and/or Sec. Def. James Mattis are neocons that “are going to get us all killed”. He won’t come right out and say it…because he knows what it would do to his forum reputation (which, btw, is very important to him)….but this is his core belief…and is the underlying thinking underneath the article he just linked.

          Have you read it?

          “Republicans, it is time for you to stop putting partisan politics ahead of the survival of our species and start pushing against these dangerous escalations that your president has been playing right along with. These escalations are extremely dangerous and getting ever more so, and in the name of all that is holy I implore you to stop before the unthinkable happens.”

          Let’s take a look at the author of this piece…

          Caitlin Johnstone: Anatomy of a Far Left Conspiracy Nut

          We take you inside the mind Caitlin Johnstone, a member of the far left movement dedicated to spreading vile conspiracy theories and atrocious journalism.

          https://thedailybanter.com/2017/06/caitlin-johnstone-anatomy-of-an-alt-left-conspiracy-nut/

          I could go on, but there’s no need to. Longtime posters here well know and understand, it’s just that the OP and his core band of forum bullies have shouted everyone down and think their “like” buttons make them winners.

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          • Zennalou says:

            Did you read the article?
            You conveniently left out the first sentence of the paragraph you quoted. So I will bring it in.

            ———–Democrats, it is time to stop letting them bait you into calling for even more escalations with a nuclear superpower and start calling for detente instead. Republicans, it is time for you to stop putting partisan politics ahead of the survival of our species and start pushing against these dangerous escalations that your president has been playing right along with. These escalations are extremely dangerous and getting ever more so, and in the name of all that is holy I implore you to stop before the unthinkable happens.———

            It appears to me the article is blasting the Democrats and the Never Trumpers.

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            • phoenixRising says:

              I think the point is in the title of the article… that some people STILL can’t let go of the fact that Trump is still president.

              There are tweets all over the place from former members of Zero’s admin that are saying POTUS is ignoring the danger that Russia poses… that he is not protecting the country and the evidence Mueller brings in the 13 indictments proves.

              Seems to me that there’s either some genuine hostility by some of you toward this poster which blinds you to the actual content of the article, or there’s a problem in reading comprehensive.

              It’s my observation that there are folks here with varyng backgrounds, no labels, just hanging out on the tree limbs trying to find sanctuary in their support of POTUS. That’s the common theme.

              My hope is we are kinder to one another, acknowledge to ourselves that we may not agree with others about everything, but that’s okay. Tolerance is key here, as it is so absent in the world today.

              Just my 2 cents.

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            • ForGodandCountry says:

              Try reading up about the author of that piece, then get back to me.

              ———————-
              “Her writing can basically be characterized as an astonishing display of emotionally manipulative narcissism, devoid of logic, fact or sanity that would be laughed out of any reputable media outlet. But this is the era of the internet, and apparently anyone can make a buck pretending to be a journalist. Johnstone believes herself to be a major player in the war against the evil, amorphous “Deep State” trying to blow up the world (yes, really) by creating a nuclear conflict with Russia.”

              “This isn’t about “the truth”, it’s about Caitlin Johnstone and her little vanity project on the internet. As every conspiracy theory loon will find out at some point, the only person they’re really doing damage to is themselves. ”
              ———————-

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              • Zennalou says:

                I’m not going to look up every author, and read every thing they have written since nursery school.

                I look for what the article is saying today, here and now.

                Have noticed you have a tendency to try and be the “thought police” and wanted to point out, you left out the first sentence and distorted what the article was about.

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        • Zennalou says:

          I don’t think he is talking, it appears to be more like stalking.

          Like

      • lawrencepaul1 says:

        alrighty then

        Like

  17. phoenixRising says:

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  18. MaineCoon says:

    Oh. My. Look what was said about SD. I don’t tweet. Do you?

    Liked by 1 person

    • MaineCoon says:

      Like

  19. phoenixRising says:

    Liked by 2 people

  20. You think the amount of money we spend in DC, we haven’t put forth federal funding for reimbursing local school districts to pay for an officer to be on duty at every public school. It’s money well spent just like the boarder patrol.

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  21. phoenixRising says:

    Sundance,
    Someone found an interesting Strzok-Page text: twitter thread https://twitter.com/jabeale/status/964993889013821441 Twitter gives wrong date, he corrects it in thread… interesting

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  22. phoenixRising says:

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  23. patrickhenrycensored says:

    Senator Dianne Feinstein announces plans for new law that will raise the federal age limit to buy a long-rifle from 18 to 21
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5404729/Senator-Dianne-Feinstein-announces-new-gun-legislation.html

    No mention of raising the age of military eligibility to 21, though.
    Send them off to war with no weapons experience is your plan, Diane?

    Liked by 3 people

    • Dave says:

      Without even opening the Daily Mail link, long guns are ALL shotguns and rifles, bolt-action, pump-action, lever action, and semi-automatic. In raising the age for all those from 18 to 21, one couldn’t even buy a double-barrel hunting shotgun or a small-caliber bolt-action target shooting rifle until one is 21.

      She can’t be hoping for that to pass, so she must be angling to raise the age to 21 at least for the “military-style” semi-automatic rifles, or perhaps for all semi-automatic center-fire rifles. I recall Connecticut raising the age to 20 for semi-automatic center-fire rifles after Sandy Hook, while banning some number of the more “military-style” ones entirely. That’s Connecticut, but DiFi would like that and a lot more for the whole country.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Zennalou says:

      Brings back memories of sending them to Viet Nam, but they were not old enough to vote.

      Liked by 2 people

  24. Concerned Virginian says:

    OK, this is NUTS.
    h/t Gateway Pundit tonight—Over in the EU, there’s old JOE BIDEN apparently dropping heavy hints that he’s considering a Democrat Presidential run in 2020. Oh, and at the SAME TIME, Biden is going to make it his business to get the House and Senate back under the Democrat Jackboot in the 2018 elections.

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  25. phoenixRising says:

    Our Leaders Are Psychopaths https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPf5i84BqcA

    The Corbett Report

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  26. MVW says:

    Judge Jeanine body slams the FBI hard, then proceeds to pound them. It was enough that I was uncomfortable with the new director, Wray. Wray reminds me of George Bush’s man ‘Brownie’ that was in charge of the FEMA response to Hurricane Katrina disaster.

    Trump needs a do-over for FBI director. A top to bottom reorganization of the FBI. This is the legislative branch. FBI needs a purge and reorganization. Put another Marine General in charge.

    Skip the ad, jump to 32 seconds.

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    • Pretty hard to argue with that opening statement from the Judge.

      From the insanity of the Russian debacle to the lunacy of this school shooting. The FBI is totally lost. It’s hard to understand what their function is right now? Where are their priorities?

      White hats & black hats, I don’t care about hats anymore. I’ve said this many times and I firmly believe it now more than ever.
      If there is someone inside that agency that that actually cares or has some pride in what they are doing and the good name they do it under, the time is right now to take a stand.

      Open your mouth now or leave with the rest of the trash.
      For over one year this country has been turned upside down over nonsense. Now you have a total and epic failure that has resulted in the deaths of 17 kids.
      It’s time for whatever good people there are to make their stand.

      It’s time to abruptly shut Mueller down and dump those Congressional Hearing looking into monsters in the closet.
      Get all of these morons back to doing there jobs. They were never really that good at that to begin with. What made anyone think they could do more than that anyway?

      I’m very serious. The FBI agents now have a choice. Times up. Stand and take your chances or leave when everyone else does.
      How anyone still working at that FLA field office still has a job is beyond me.

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    • blind no longer says:

      OMG. That was an epic takedown!!! My ears were burning by the time she got through!
      Unbelievable Takedown!

      Like

    • ForGodandCountry says:

      Wow. That was savage!

      And well earned.

      My only gripe is that she missed pointing out how Mueller used his “Muh Russia” indictments to quash the criticisms of the FBI and provide cover for the democrats and MSM who don’t want a functioning, ethical FBI.

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  27. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  28. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  29. Charlotte says:

    Time for a joke:
    President Trump invited the Pope for lunch on his mega yacht.

    The Pope accepted and during lunch a puff of wind blew the Pontiff’s hat off, right into the water.

    It floated off about 50 feet, then the wind died down and it just floated in place.

    The crew and the Secret Service were scrambling to launch a boat to go get it, when Trump waved them off, saying,

    “Never mind boys, I’ll get it.”

    The Donald climbed over the side of the yacht, walked on the water to the hat, picked it up, walked back on the water, climbed into the yacht, and handed the Pope his hat.

    The crew was speechless. The security team and the Pope’s entourage were speechless.

    No one knew what to say, not even the Pope.

    But that afternoon, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC reported:

    “TRUMP CAN’T SWIM”

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  30. THE COLLUSION DELUSION

    Incarceration! Half the nation!
    brays the dismal swamp.
    Collusion like a cancer grows.
    This is no Sunday romp.

    If we can’t pin it on the Chief,
    some errant Slavs we’ll snare.
    How dare they steal our POTUS seat,
    the Deep State’s Biggest Chair.

    Exogenous is dangerous.
    We’re teleprompter guys.
    Our money writes a killer script.
    Control detests surprise.

    Outsiders are a pox upon
    the house collusion built.
    Vote Tweedle-Numb or Tweedle-Dumb.
    They’re vetted to the hilt.

    We caught some trolls. Thirteen, in fact.
    Their influence was naught.
    It bumped the Parkland 18 off
    the headlines like a shot.

    https://fullspectrumdominoes.wordpress.com/2018/02/17/collusion-is-a-two-faced-coin/

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  31. Ozark says:

    What a idiot

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