“The Fix”…

Earlier today President Trump tweeted that he personally directed “the fix” to the FISA-702 unmasking process:

He did exactly that.

NSA Director Admiral Rogers took specific action to stop FISA-702(17) “About Queries” and posted the NSA notification in April 2017.  SEE HERE

The FISA-702(17) “About Query” process was exactly what was used to collect information about the campaign of President Trump.

[…] Under Section 702, NSA collects internet communications in two ways: “downstream” (previously referred to as PRISM) and “upstream.”

Under downstream collection, NSA acquires communications “to or from” a Section 702 selector (such as an email address). Under upstream collection, NSA acquires communications “to, from, or about” a Section 702 selector.

An example of an “about” email communication is one that includes the targeted email address in the text or body of the email, even though the email is between two persons who are not themselves targets.

The independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board described these collection methods in an exhaustive report published in 2014.

After considerable evaluation of the program and available technology, NSA has decided that its Section 702 foreign intelligence surveillance activities will no longer include any upstream internet communications that are solely “about” a foreign intelligence target.

Instead, this surveillance will now be limited to only those communications that are directly “to” or “from” a foreign intelligence target.

These changes are designed to retain the upstream collection that provides the greatest value to national security while reducing the likelihood that NSA will acquire communications of U.S. persons or others who are not in direct contact with one of the Agency’s foreign intelligence targets.  (read more)

 

 

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338 Responses to “The Fix”…

  1. Regina says:

    I just posted in the DOJ/FBI thread – I think this is also part of ‘the fix’?
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-memorandum-director-national-intelligence/

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    • Payday says:

      Who’s going to prosecute? They’re all corrupt or compromised!

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      • Until the next Democrat President.
        They need to go to jail .
        Changing Abuses only protects American till the sequel to Obama the Barbarian .
        The next will be Obama the Destroyer.

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      • cali says:

        They are all charged before the Military Tribunals. The indictment although sealed are ready to go. A total of 9,200 are waiting to see sunlight.
        Sessions, Rosenstein, Mattis, Wray and others all have visited GITMO since December.

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        • snellvillebob says:

          I am not a lawyer but under what law can we take a citizen of the USA out of the country to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to imprison them waiting a military trial? They are not military. Gitmo was used for non-citizen foreign fighters who were taken as prisoners of war. They war has not ended nor is there an end in sight. One purpose of taking the to Gitmo was to deprive them of their rights they would receive is they every set foot on the mainland USA.
          These people live here already.
          I know it fun to fantasize about horrible punishments for traitors and agents of espionage but we really do have worse prisons right here. How would you like to be in a cell next to Charlie Mansion?
          Or Jeffrey Dahmer, a serial killer living in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, murdered at least 17 people between 1978 and 1991. Following his arrest, he told police that he had cut up the thighs, biceps, and internal organs of several of his victims and cooked them in a stovetop skillet before consuming them. He claimed they tasted like filet mignon.

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          • jbyrne1110 says:

            well this is one situation where Obama signing the NDAA could possibly come back to bite him and all of the minions directly in the ass.

            http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/02/06/ndaa-sections-1021-and-1022-scary-potential/

            these two provisions, which Obama signed, allow for the indefinite detention of American citizens without trial until the end of “hostilities”. I would consider a seditious plot to overthrow a duly elected president as a hostile act to the republic. These people are going to end up getting hung with the noose they themselves tied for the rest of us.

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          • Q&A says:

            A US military base out of the geographic US is still considered US territory in a similar way that a US embassy is considered US territory. Also, military bases can be used for different purposes other than purely military actions. There is cooperation between the military and federal agencies in many operations, so using a military base for detention of federal agents wouldn’t be unusual. Perhaps they need a secure and extremely private area because any interrogation would reveal highly classified information and they don’t want leaks. Maybe they want detainees isolated from the general prison population for the same reason. Just because a US citizen is jailed in an out of country military base does not mean they will be treated differently than being jailed in country. Gitmo has received a bad rap from the press and much of it was exaggerated or fabricated.

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          • dayallaxeded says:

            Espionage. Engage in espionage, especially for seditious purposes and in combination with foreign actors, and summary execution is probably “legal.” I’m confident that there are AQ operatives who are or were in Gitmo who’re less dangerous and have done less damage to our nation than the likes of 0bunghole, HELLary, Donahue, Songbird, CHomey, Crapper, Brenanemy, Rice, NSD and FIB management as well as their co-conspirators in media. Once the pit of vipers that’s been bred over the 28 years preceding PDJT is purged with extreme prejudice all the unconstitutional “national [in]security” BS should be repealed. With a wall, proper immigration controls, and a return to LEOs actually enforcing the law, we’ll be safer and freer than any time in almost 60 years.

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          • Deacon says:

            Charlie is taking the “BIG DIRT NAP” haven’t you heard! He checked out about a month ago!

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          • TwoLaine says:

            EEEWWW! Charlie’s dead. That would be stinky.

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        • Charlotte says:

          WHOA: Obama Admin May Have Warned Terrorist Leader of Israeli Assassination Plot as Exposed by Chatty Former Spox

          https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/01/11/whoa-obama-admin-may-warned-terrorist-leader-israeli-assassination-plot-exposed-chatty-former-spox/

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        • DanO64 says:

          Mar-a-Gitmo.

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      • soronme says:

        Military tribunal is my guess. Ask yourself why, over the last 120 days, Gitmo has been revamped to hold many more prisoners, more Marines and the 850th Military Police Battalion of the Arizona National Guard have been deployed there recently. All at a facility that had been essentially shut down by Obama.

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      • Slack says:

        Why do they bother to investigate when they never prosecute anyone? And if they do no one is sent to jail or anything that I see as punishment
        The so called legal intelligentsia, the likes of Mueller and now Walsh not only over-lawyer cases to run up the bill for their clients – in the case of Mueller his “witch hunt” investigation will cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars – their arrogance surpasses all norms for the average law firm or lawyer.

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  2. mitrom says:

    Very good info, Sundance. I wonder why nobody in the media or in Congress has talked about this fix? It’s very important. The media and Congress continually let the American people down by not covering important news and instead report nonsense.

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    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Here in Oregon, no mention of the DOJ/FBI Russia collusion with the DNC.

      We are instead being lectured about President Trump asking why we only get immigrants from sh*thole countries.

      Apparently, the Globalists are shocked and offended that the President mentioned what all American citizens have been noticing for decades.

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      • It’s possible he just wanted to fan the flames to draw attention away from this by dropping the sheethole comment. He had to know that was going to blow up.

        I go back to SD and others saying this is coming out in drips for a reason. Maybe they wanted to slow the drips?

        Or maybe I over-analyze it?

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        • Carrie2 says:

          Freedom, Trump is well known for diverting their attention away while he gets good stuff done. They just don’t get it but continue to think like politicians and how this affects them.

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          • piper567 says:

            laser pen in action: they follow it all the time, thinking its prey.
            pathetic. no learning ability.

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          • sat0422 says:

            Again, Laura Ingrahamm was showing her shallow self last night. I want to like her and I want her to be strong because she is very popular. However, she must take time to read more, and she needs a more competent staff to keep her up on what’s happening.

            I realize that Hannity has radio and TV down to a science, but Laura doesn’t. She’s also a working Mom and she must do everything in the same 24 hours that everyone else does. The question is will she listen and believe?
            At this point her information hounds seem to be her radio listeners. That’s wild card soup.

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            • carole says:

              I had high hopes for Laura’s tv show. Watched it twice. No more. For the very reasons you stated in your first paragraph.

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            • kiskiminetas says:

              She is working for anti-Trump globalists and she feeds off of the Swamp. It is just that simple besides her handlers would never let her go full MAGA. Fox is just like all of the corporate media is faithful to the desires of Globalists and the destruction of America. But what the hades she does get paid a LOT of money and most likely doesn’t mind that at all!

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              • dayallaxeded says:

                If she started reading CTH posts verbatim, she’d be doing the nation and her credibility a YUGE favor, but her bosses would probably can her at the first commercial break. Best thing that could happen to TV news would be for FCC to require all broadcasters to transmit no more than, say, 4 yours of news and news commentary per 24 hour period. The 24/7 news cycle is a major problem–removed all judgment from news reporting, engendered all the unentertaining “entertainment” news commentary clap-trap that now pollutes the air and cable ways ad nauseam.

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            • Tegan says:

              Sago…your post needs to be emailed to her.

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            • CaptainNonno says:

              Don’t watch Laura. Rarely has anything new to add to the conversation. As far as Hannity having radio and tv down to a science? His all about me diatribes and 70% commercial programming is too much for me. I can read in under three minutes the content he offers on either format. Rather come here at least the tree house offers deep thoughts, new info or takes and some bonding.

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              • Lindenlee says:

                And he will never call out the RINOs as being CORRUPT. He complains and wails about “Why won’t they __________?”, when he knows damn well that it is because they are bought and paid for. He only comes out strongly when he knows the coast is clear and there is no threat to HIM.

                And matter what you think of Roy Moore… He followed orders and threw him under the bus publicly, on allegations alone. I will not watch him or listen to him anymore. Besides, he is damn boring.

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              • When I first started following conservative political issues, Hannity and Beck and Rush were beacons of light.

                But it’s gotten to the point that I am usually 3-5 days ahead of them simply by analyzing what I am reading elsewhere. (Here, American Thinker, GP, BB and a motley assortment of other sources of varying credibility and depth). Hannity really burned a bridge for me when he assumed that Moore was guilty. That frosted my flakes, to coin a phrase.

                I do better listening to Casey in the morning than I do listening to Hannity in the afternoon. ALL of the talk radio hosts in my listening area are doing the 70% advertising format (come back from a long break, talk for 30 seconds or so, take a short break of “only” a few minutes and then never get to the teaser topic after the short break. I’m getting ticked because I am hungry for actionable information … not quack ED nostrums and pills.

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        • cali says:

          President Trump never uttered those words and nothing but ‘Mockingbird’ disinformation news by the media. They once again used anonymous sources ‘in the room’. Hmmm….! Liars all!

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        • 4harrisonblog says:

          Yep, he knew and knows what he is doing. He threw the lap-dogs, a bone with red meat.

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        • John K Evans says:

          Whatever the game being played with the well coordinated leaks by the white hats, my daily reading of the Huffington Post leads me to the conclusion that the Left, which is about 30% of the country, will never see a clean up of the DOJ/FBI as anything but a fascist coup. Yes, that’s ironic given the Left’s long standing hatred and fear of federal authority, but these people are truly delusional. If there is a targeted audience, and I’m skeptical of the premise, who might it be?

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          • dayallaxeded says:

            JKE, you’ve rung the truth bell loud and hard with that one. The key, I think, is to hit ’em so hard and take out so many of their upper-level operatives in gummint, media, and perhaps also in certain businesses (like Fusion-rowing-with-one-Ohr-GPS, Donahue/US-COC) and foreign nations (5 Eyes co-conspirators), that the libtard/progzi cadres can only flail and run about like a chicken with its head cut off, through the next couple of election cycles at least. That should at least put the nation back on “rule of law” track that is maintainable for a few decades into the future–we can tell our kids they’ve got a republic, if they can keep it.

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      • BabyBoomer says:

        Kinda riles ones senses to hear people place a definition on a term that is so imprecise but should be self-explanatory. I agree with our President that some of these countries truly are sh*tholes. The comment had nothing to do with the citizens living therein but rather everything to do with their government and greedy leaders who live in comparative luxury rather than the intended humane use of the money to feed their starving, homeless, ill people. Even the blind can see the atrocities these sh*tholes commit against their own people. Not one red dime from compassionate countries will see its way to help the people but would only be usurped by the money mongers who are lords over the helpless.

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        • piper567 says:

          like the Clintons and their theft of $$$ from Haitian funds.
          I was not even aware of this until The Campaign, when Haitian folks stood outside of rallies with signs illuminating the Clinton thefts.
          They are bitter.

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        • sat0422 says:

          I do believe that the most recent example, glaring example is Puerto Rico. Just look at those who risk life and limb to escape Cuba. Mexico is a death trap, especially if you live near the border and the question is why does the government permit the cartels to assault, murder, rape, kidnap and hold hostages. I really can’t believe that a country permits such in their own country. GO to Brietbart and click on the TEXAS NEWS TAB. It is shocking to learn what goes on daily at the border.

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          • Alligator Gar says:

            ^^THIS! I remember Juarez as a great little border town with lots of interesting craft stores with great handmade goods. Casa Zia was the leather store where you could get great qualities leathers for your firearms, belts, etc., all hand-tooled for very good prices. The people seemed happy and content. Kids in the street would watch your car for a few pesos while you went to the stores or restaurants. Not any longer.

            You couldn’t pay me to cross that border now being as I can’t go armed. So, the people of Juarez are not only murdered in the street by these cartels, but they lose out on tourist dollars, too. This is unacceptable.

            Drugs were around in the 1970s/80s. No doubt drugs were being hauled into the US from Mexico even then. What changed? The Mexican military creating the Zetas? Nearly two decades of indifferent or even drug-importation friendly American governments? (Mena, the involvement of the Bush bros with Everglades trafficking, Iran-Contra CIA drug running, etc.?)

            It’s time to stamp out drugs in this country. We can do this by giving people a life worth living. Let’s stop treating workers with the callous indifference of “I’ll bully you because you need this chicken-feed job. You’ll take the bullying because you need to feed your family and there are fifty other people standing in line to TAKE your job!” Let’s hope that MAGAnomics changes this state of affairs. If the workers in the US don’t seek to escape their horrible lot by taking illicit substances and more alcohol that is good for them, the demand for illicit substances will cease.

            That, alone, will give Mexicans a reason to rejoice as the cartels will have their money supply shut off and will wither and die. MAGA is on its way to Making the World Great Again!

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        • mdaush says:

          All of us can ride through a poor neighborhood and see the one house on the street that is neat, well groomed and cared for while surrounded by houses that are unkept, weeks everywhere, trash in the yard etc.
          How many parking lots or fast food places in poor neighborhoods don’t have paper blowing everywhere because the customers choose to drop the refuse on the ground instead of throwing it away properly? I hate to see it but we all know it is true. Same for manyof these poor countries.
          I have contributed to Neverthirst who builds wells for water in needy countries…they do good work. but the question has to be asked..if Neverthirst can build a well for clean water for modest sums, “why in the hell hasn’t the country or its people done it for themselves”? It’s not rocket science. And, of course, the answer is because of corruption and not caring for their own people.

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        • Kristin says:

          Baby boomer: well said!^^^

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        • Catinflorida says:

          Has anyone else been to Haiti? The reality is it really is a sxxxhole! What country sells their most beautiful part of their country to a cruise line? Royal Caribbean bought the pristine penninsula, put a 12ft wall around it with machine gun toting guards to keep the Haitians out and marketed it as their private island in Labadee, Hispaniola. The cruise line pays a $10 per head fee to the Haitian govt. and have been criticized for not even employing the locals.

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          • Alligator Gar says:

            WTH! This is beyond sad. It sounds like the Mexican government and their military presence in Cozumel etc. Keeping the “cartels” at bay? Yeah, sure. More like shielding rich tourists from the reality of grinding poverty for the majority of Mexico’s people! Sick!

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        • Ber Knar says:

          Refreshing brevity.

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        • 4sure says:

          They are shithole countries because they produce illiterate, low skilled, baby producing machines and people who have nothing to contribute to anyone. What have these countries ever produced that benefitted anyone in a positive way? I can think of nothing. We have millions of them illegally in this country. How do they benefit us in any way?

          Shithole countries w/millions of shithole people. You don’t have shithole countries without shithole people filling it up.And that’s where we are eventually headed. And the dims will have their voters and dependent class and the pubs and coc will have their cheap shithole laborers.

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      • Jenny R. says:

        The irony is, there is no verifiable proof that the President did indeed say this — only hearsay. Yet everyone either wants it to be true…or was thinking the same thought to begin with.
        And then this leads to the rather obvious question: if these countries are not poo divots, then why are so many people trying to get out of them? And if they are schiesse buckets, then why are they/how did they get that way?
        Hillary should perhaps be asked about Haiti, since she is so very interested in that country and has given so much charity to it.

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        • Good points. It is rather amazing how people put so much stock into how slick something was said rather than actual outcomes. “Oh look how much the Clintons like Haiti! See how dignified they are while helping those poor people?” All the while, they siphon the relief money and *keep* the poor people poor.

          PS – poo divot. hehe

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          • piper567 says:

            why no discussion of whatever POS did the leaking?
            I don’t get it.

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            • Jim in TN says:

              Think about how every media person despised and hated on Bannon, but secretly took his every phone call and published everything ugly he could give them.

              Now imagine what would happen if they let slip that their news was just another Bannon slimy political attack. Instantly discredited. They would receive some of the hate. And Bannon would never talk to them again.

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        • AM says:

          “The irony is, there is no verifiable proof that the President did indeed say this — only hearsay.”

          My very first thought was…”That doesn’t sound like Donald Trump in the least”. It’s an Archie Bunker type comment but the real Donald Trump doesn’t say things like that, at least not that I’ve heard him. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him swear.

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        • Tegan says:

          Here’s an idea….send all the people indicted and convicted to Haiti (especially Hillary’s cadre) to serve as volunteers (under strict supervision, of course) to help clean up that shithole. Better than lounging around in Gitmo.

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        • GW says:

          Dick Durbin, in the meeting, claimed on TV that he witnessed him saying it

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        • joshua says:

          well….how about Slumdog Millionaire for a taste of s h i t hole country vision…

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      • YvonneMarie says:

        LOL !

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      • jeans2nd says:

        What we learned in that clip was that Pres Trump rejected the bi-partisan DACA deal.

        Everyone ALWAYS picks up the Fake News talking points.
        Why does NO ONE hear the truth in the President’s words?

        The President rejected the bi-partisan DACA deal. That is the news. Not the words used to deliver the news.

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        • kiskiminetas says:

          I tend to believe you as that was nothing more than Trump triggering the Swamp Dwellers that he knows they want to do business as usual but it isn’t going to happen. Once again he gave them leeway to do the right thing for this country and they went their own way.

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          • Lindenlee says:

            And THAT is what he does. I am astonished that these swamp dwellers are so stupid as to not see his pattern. They keep thinking that he is just like them.

            He tells them what he wants. He specifies his conditions. Then, he praises them, and gives them encouragement to do the right thing. He gives them some time, depending on how long they have fiddled and farted around, wasting time, and what deadline is applicable.

            But they never get it. They either delay, bring something completely NOT acceptable, and then they are surprised when he lowers the boom. Dumbasses. THEY NEVER LEARN. But that is great for MAGA!

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      • NvMtnOldMan says:

        Donna- the reason the MSM does stuff like this is because so many people believe the MSM, like you just did.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      The Democratic propaganda outlets don’t want to admit that Trump is waaaaay better at protecting privacy than Obama was.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      mitrom – Yes, media are talking about this. Well, at least NBC is.
      But, as I and others predicted, they have ti all wrong…NBC “Think” a couple days ago:

      Here, they get it all backwards. They accurately note the system that exists, but without any note of its recent abuse, and no sense of alarm. Then, they claim that Trump WANTS to have this open-access-to-NSA-data in place so Trump can spy on political opponenents at will! They have it 180 degrees backwards!

      “Democrats have been all over the airwaves recently accusing Donald Trump of abusing the Justice Department to go after his political enemies….So you’d think they would oppose handing Donald Trump any more power with which he could potentially use against all sorts of Americans who attract negative attention from his administration….

      “Currently, the NSA has over 100,000 foreign nationals under this type of surveillance now, but it also has the communications of the potentially millions of Americans they’ve talked to, texted with and emailed over the course of the surveillance. The FBI has access to this vast database of information and regularly searches it like Google without a warrant, for crimes that have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism….

      “But with Section 702 expiring next week, the Trump administration has of course, demanded that Congress pass an extension with supposed “reforms” that do hardly anything to stop the feds from abusing their powers and actually codify the ability for the FBI, in many cases, to search Americans’ emails without a warrant.”

      https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/democrats-just-handed-trump-more-domestic-surveillance-powers-they-should-ncna836836

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  3. fleporeblog says:

    Admiral Mike Rogers is a HERO to our country! Many Americans will never get to know everything he did to save our country and our President. He was the only one that had the guts to stand up to the corruption that was taking place in the previous administration. The CIA, FBI and DOJ were all corrupt at the top. Had they had one of their own running the NSA, our country would have been lost forever. One man stood watch and did what was right. I hope and pray that our President bestows the highest honor onto Admiral Mike Rogers.

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    • MM says:

      Thank God for Admiral Rogers……
      It took one good man to do the right thing……

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      • fleporeblog says:

        MM it really did! Had she won they may have tried him for treason. The guy that retired in October was trying to put the blame on Admiral Rogers if anything ever came out.

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        • rds says:

          When I read your comments, the term “Hinge of Fate” by Churchill came to mind. To think that if things swung the other way just a little, this American hero in every sense of the word could have been condemned and destroyed. Breathtaking.

          I join you in saying thank God for Admiral Rogers. We are so blessed.

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          • mdaush says:

            There are many times we say to ourselves, “why doesn’t one patriot stand up and tell the truth or do the right thing? Well, admiral Mike rogers is that MAN!

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      • joeknuckles says:

        Yes, it is a wonderful day in the neighborhood thanks to him.

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      • Eliza says:

        If many of US do the right thing then imagine what can happen.

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        • Alligator Gar says:

          Eliza, doing the right thing comes at a very high price, if you are in government service, even at the state level. I lost a job I loved in 2015 for speaking up on serious state procurement issues in the agency where I worked. It took nearly 9 months to get re-employed. I did the right thing. I got severely chastised. Result? My family suffered but nothing changed for the People I serve. The procurement went forward.

          Would I do it again? Of course. But doing the right thing may be too high a price for others. Putting their head in the sand and just going along to get along is the order of the day for other “good people” that I know in state service. Management rose to their positions because of who they know. They are not versed in, nor do they care about, going by the letter of the laws they are supposed to observe. They tend to be sociopaths, workplace bullies, and generally unstable and evil people. Most normal workers just try to stay out of management’s way to avoid being fired. I can’t blame them.

          I am so glad that this worked out well for the great Admiral. I admire him very much for what he did. And, I am thankful that he survived and got the word out to someone who would listen and do the right thing when given the Admiral’s information. God wanted this. God is good, all the time.
          MAGA!

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          • Tegan says:

            I hear what you are saying, Alligator, but just look at the fates of the signers of the Declaration and know that we will all go by the way of the Shithole if people do not take a stand. Congratulations for your bravery, BTW.

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          • the5thranchhand says:

            Thank you, from the bottom of my heart and soul, Alligator Gar, for doing the right thing. So very sorry that your family had to suffer. But, praying that you will be greatly blessed in the end.

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    • Yeah, it’s finally sinking in.

      And who’d a thunk it would come from the head of the NSA? (maybe his predecessor spoiled the well)

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    • Plain Jane says:

      Now how can I fix my old T-shirt that says NSA, the only gov agency that listens?

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    • LetsPlay says:

      As I understand that “community,” I am sure he will get his recognition although the country may never really know about it or know the entire story. It will be one of those files that stays “SECRET” for the next 50 years when in truth, a book and movie and more should be made about him and his contributions. We need these kinds of heroes to be made public and of national stature as to what public service is supposed to be about. Thank you Adm. Rogers and God bless you and keep you safe from TPTB here on earth.

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    • Charlotte says:

      I hope Trump rewards him with CABINET POST.
      OR SOMETHING.

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    • ok4ayl says:

      Sundance posted a 5 minute You Tube video on his Twitter feed about Adm. Rogers a few days ago, I wish I could remember the name of it, very well done. Speaks to character, faith, family, and his school days at Auburn and how it shaped his life in the Navy…..

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    • nhgardengram says:

      Totally agree. Bless his courage; a REAL Admiral.

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    • Kez says:

      As I have stated before, Pres. Trump literally saved Adm.Rodgers life and career. When I think of Adm. Rodgers, I think of that lone fellow standing in front of all those tanks in Tiananmen square. The difference is that God was protecting His warriors. Adm. Rodgers is one of God’s warriors. History may not remember what Adm.Rodgers did but we will. Many times the most important people are not properly remembered. It’s part of the “irony of life” that we all have to endure.

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  4. MM says:

    A fix that was needed in the worst way…..

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  5. maggiemoowho says:

    A much needed fix. Great news!😃👍👍👍

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  6. brh82 says:

    A “fix” that will be tarred and feathered as a shiny object, a distraction from the REAL work to be done; Impeachment of the President. it’s such a pity that this topic is so dense and convoluted and complicated, MSM and the Left can’t being to grasp the significance of the “fix” or anything else about FISA or FICA. Instead, they are fixated on this propaganda; https://grondamorin.com/2018/01/11/senate-judiciary-committee-republicans-have-been-caught-with-their-pants-down/

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    • nimrodman says:

      Thanks, brh.

      Wow, they’re already far, far down the road of counter-narrative. And it reads well – I’d bite if I didn’t know better. As always, it seems like we’re up against far, far better-deployed MSM resources. Unless there are indictments and perp walks, this could likely devolve into simply “competing narratives” (with all respect to Sundance and other truth-finders).

      This paragraph brings up an interesting point: “… the clear words on the page made it obvious that the criminal charges leveled at Steele by Grassley and Senator Lindsey Graham went beyond political showboating and into the realm of egregious obstruction.”

      Sundance, when you wrote your article on Grassley and Graham calling for Steele charges, you seemed to be alluding to a sleight of hand on their part, that they were cleverly trying to force FBI’s hand, who may actually have been misrepresenting or continuing to stonewall, not that charges were warranted against Steele per se. I’m not sure you spelled it out explicitly, I never quite got it.

      Any comment on that in retrospect, given this example of how it’s being portrayed by the other side?

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      • “Clear words on the page” are only clear if you take everything at face value and employ zero critical thinking. Oh, and want to grandstand and PROJECT what you are guilty of another party.

        But what else should we expect from the Projectocrats?

        SD and others have nailed this to the point where the opposition is using it to base their chaff and countermeasures on it.

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        • nimrodman says:

          Thx Freedom. To be clear, I’m not saying I place any credence in that article but that it’ll be gobbled up as gospel by Dems.

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          • brh82 says:

            I must confess, I ALMOST “gobbled it up as gospel”, or at least heavily questioned my allegiance to see if it had been drinking KoolAid.

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            • nimrodman says:

              The article is a “tell” on their sacred cows. Steele, Glenn Simpson, Fusion GPS, and the dossier are to be defended at all costs.

              “Glenn Simpson, [is] a former Wall Street Journal reporter”
              “Mr. Steele, [is] a reputable professional”

              … etc, as if their reputations vouch for their presumed good behavior and ethics. While the “other side” … well, you know.

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              • Tegan says:

                If there is one single lesson I learned during the election years….WATCH THE ADJECTIVES! The MSM and opposition has it down to a science…wouldn’t be surprised if there was an entire course in journalism school. A simple descriptive word in front of a name is the easiest way to make a lasting (good or bad) impression. Remember how the adjective “billionaire” was ALWAYS in front of Trump? You would have thought that was his birth name. Did the MSM ever use Hilliary’s vast wealth in connection to her name? But, our clever POTUS quickly used the same tools and now his opponents will forever been known by the nicknames he assigned, Little Marco, Crooked Hillary, etc.
                So, Nimroadman, your point is taken…”reputable professional” Steele. The “tell” is in the adjectives!

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      • nimrodman says:

        Sundance, pls disregard my asking for further comment on the Grassley-Graham issue, I just re-read the article and see that you were far more explicit about what was going on than the impression of “alluding” that I came away with. Cancel.

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    • yucki says:

      Disgusting-ness. Horrible comments, too.

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    • Charlotte says:

      What a pity that a bunch of patriots cant corner a few of these RINOs and DemRats and tar and feather them

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      The is article makes an interesting contrast to Andy McCarthy’s evaluation of the same transcript. It is his opinion that what we mostly learn is that Simpson could not point to any real evaluation of the “dossier.” It is rather amusing that tha author of this piece is appatently unaware the the DNC was at all connected with the document, and that they consider Fusion a reputable–indeed, sterling–firm (their standards serm pretty low). It is, in fact, nothing but a bunch of ex-“journalist,” ex-this and that hired guns.

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      • brh82 says:

        I’m thinking the Treepers are the only ones who know of the connection of the DNC and Hillary to the Dossier. How would the Dems know about it, since they only know what MSM tells them?

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    • Lindenlee says:

      To be honest, even my most aware and conservative friends to whom I sent the long blog post about Adm. Rogers were willing to read it, concentrate, read again, and see how greatly this man performed for this nation. Does not bode well for our nation.

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  7. Das411 says:

    Hmm…so if the spying began in 2010, and Rogers told Trump about it in mid-November 2016….this sort of looks like someone who has it all figured out telling someone else his campaign was also spied on, doesn’t it?

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    • MM says:

      Post the 1st clip when Romney was leaving Bedminister NJ Golf course after his 1st meeting with PDJT he was so confused he couldn’t find his car…..The PDJT dropped a load of info on Romney in that meeting….

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      • margarite1 says:

        How much could he tell Romney – was any of this classified?

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      • thesavvyinvester says:

        Bingo, Romney is not my cup of tea RINO, However he is a decent man and his wife is a fine women and they would have graced 1600 Penn Ave. We do not know the extent of the Intel apparatus that may have been used to thwart his victory. With that said, how mighty was President Trumps victory to overcome that effort, especially in the arena of cross state voting ( NH ), the dead still voting and what goes on in CA.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I’m not sure what you mean by your statement but I did want to point out that Admiral Rogers became the director of the NSA in 2014. I’m actually wondering how he didn’t know about the abuses in 2014 or 2015, but oh well, better late than never. With Hillary as President, with her idiotic endangering handling of sensitive data, God knows where we’d be. It frightens me to think about it.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        The following is not an excuse but offered for consideration. The size and depth of these major Federal agencies is extreme to say the least. That includes, staff as well as scope of the work these massive agencies perform. Also, Rogers had to rely upon subordinates to actually work through and identify the wrong doing. So, if the wrong subordinates are in place, it would not be hard to hide this wrong doing from the actual head of the agency until somebody steps forward with information or an inspection of an operations catches the wrong doing. Until more is revealed I will side with t notion Admiral Rogers or one of his clean subordinates had “Nunes moment”, catching the wrong doing by a chance inspection or a new clean subordinate was doing their job.

        It may also be that Clapper and Brennan totally misread Admiral Rogers’ fidelity to his oath as an officer and just too much exposed to be caught up in a routine inspection.

        Note, this is why Schumer and neverTrumpers are putting on a full court press to delay Trump mid-level agency appointments as they are the point that rubber meets the road. Without the extra management eyes and ears, finding wrong doing and discovering embedded partisan enemies without them is near impossible. That leaves an agency lead with two choices, get lost in the woods looking at everything or focus on executing the agencies mission and hope any issues can be found by a reduced staff.

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        • Tegan says:

          Docoo…I think you are correct…can’t have too many white hats working in the organizations. (S) Surely there is a way to get these appointments and staff approved without this obvious obstruction…even from POTUS’’ own party (Rand! Grrrr)

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    • Just Tea says:

      I keep thinking about that too. If they spied on Trump’s campaign, you know they did it to Romney as well.

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    • Charlotte says:

      No Romney knew in 2012 already and he was being blackmailed which is why he threw the debate(s) against Obama.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Romeny is like, “gulp, so you have seen me in my tighty-whiteys in front of my smart TV, acting out that Tom Cruise “Old Time Rock-N-Roll” scene from Risky Business?”

      Trump just answered: “Bigly. But also, so has Debbie Wasserman Schultz, George Soros, George Stephanapolis, Huma Abedin, and Valerie Jarrett, bee atch. 47% of the DNC, plus Russia, as well. Natch.”

      “Now, turn and smile for the camera. This time, make sure to let them get your good side.”

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    • cali says:

      Das411: Whatever Romney was or wasn’t told he remains the #NeverTrump to this day. He supposedly be running for the seat Orin Hatch vacates since his Mormon religion plays well in Utah or so he says. He still spouts his anti-Trump bs. so I don’t have use for the guy still.
      I always think about Jeb Bush, his 100 million dollar PAC and Free Bacon who were the ones starting the ball rolling of the Steele dossier. Jeb’s PAC paid first for that product. As he had to drop out he shopped the Hillary campaign. Jeb, the Bush weasel and Rove’s republican is no innocent bystander and should be tarred and feathered as well. We don’t hear much from him do we or any of the Bushes anymore do we? Everything is very, very quiet in that corner.

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      • Aubergine says:

        Well, about Mitt and his NeverTrump spouting, remember; whatever the “goods” were that “they” had on him, “they” still have it. And if it is really bad, he will say whatever they want to prevent it coming out. Just because DJT is our President now (thank God every day!), doesn’t mean that all those people who were blackmailed are off the hook. Sad, but true.

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        • Lindenlee says:

          I keep thinking, regarding the exposure of the Trump spying… This is certainly not the first time this kind something has been done. Shouldn’t this lead to a deeper look at how this was employed against Justice Roberts, Romney, and God knows who else? This must be taken out at its core.

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        • dayallaxeded says:

          The dog on the roof rack was bad enough! Don’t get us started on his Bane Capital connections, etc. etc. etc. Romney is a disgusting sub-human, GOPe, uniparty surrendering phallanx swamp bug.

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      • docnova66 says:

        I thought there was a Rubio connection when the Wash. Free Beacon was funding FusionGPS at the same time FGPS was a “subcontracted data analyst” for the FBI?

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      • PoliTech says:

        I think the people of Utah are smart enough to not elect a carpetbagging east coaster take their senate seat just because he claims to be a LDS member.

        At least that’s the hope.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        With respect to daddy Bush and George 43, they were window dressing with for Clinton Foundation Haitian Aid Commercials and other Clinton functions. The whole family is bought and paid for, which tell you something about the financial horse power that backed the Clintons and Democrat Party.

        Don’t forget, daddy Bush essentially ran a “non-campaign”, “punch the clock” election campaign against Bill Clinton.

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  8. nimrodman says:

    Obama’s FBI turned the wheel of the Exxon Valdez supertanker of surveillance destruction that is the NSA over to private, politicized, Democrat operatives (Fusion GPS) and said “Here – you drive”

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    • waltherppk says:

      Yeah it takes “privatization” to a whole new level to be farming out NSA data access to private contractors and subcontractors ……probably even the Kremlin has an NSA login.

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    • wtd says:

      Yes, he did…openly. And his base embraced it, as witnessed in the following 2013 video clip and one of Obama’s final actions in office in 2017:
      Maxine Waters Confirms “Big Brother” Database – Feb 11 2013 1 min. 08 sec.

      Roland Martin: The inauguration represented the beginning of his second term
      Maxine Waters: Yes
      Roland Martin: But it also represented the countdown to the end of his presidency.
      Maxine Waters: That’s right.
      Roland Martin: And the reality is, like anything else, you better get what you can while he’s there because – look, come 2016, that’s it.

      Maxine Waters: Well, you know, I don’t know…and I think some people are missing something here. The President has put in place an organization that contains the kind of data that no one has ever before seen in life. That’s going to be very, very powerful and whoever….

      Roland Martin: In terms of Organizing for America that is now shifting to become a 501C4

      Maxine Waters: Yeah, that’s right. That’s right. And that data base will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for president on the democratic ticket will have to deal with that. They’re going to have to go down with that database and the concerns of those people are because they can’t get around it. And he’s been very smart. I mean it’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place. And I think that’s what every democratic candidate is going to have to deal with.

      and

      NYT Jan. 12 2017: N.S.A. Gets More Latitude to Share Intercepted Communications
      WASHINGTON — In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.

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      • NC Nana says:

        WTD, Maxine Waters said “ And he’s been very smart. I mean it’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place. And I think that’s what every democratic candidate is going to have to deal with.”

        Wow great catch! Rep. Waters said ‘leaving in place’. It is not something Pres. O. is taking to his “library” or giving to the DNC it will be “left in place”.

        Rep. Waters also said every candidate is going to have to ‘deal with’ this thing that is left in place.

        My eyes are opening wider and wider. When I originally heard Rep. Waters comments I assumed she was talking about a get out the vote type operation for the DNC candidates. It never occurred to me that the NSA data would be politically weaponized against someone with another point of view.

        It is definitely easier to listen and “fully hear” people’s comments when you see the whole picture.

        This whole 702(17) thing gets scarier and scarier.

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  9. Curry Worsham says:

    All the Fake Media sees in the tweets is: “I don’t support the FISA ACT!”
    Followed by: “Oh wait, they just told me I do support the FISA ACT!”
    They’re so silly.

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  10. jambo says:

    The only flaw in the entire GOP/DOJ/Fusion scheme was that candidate Trump was an honest man. It would have worked a treat on Hillary, imagine what the NSA could have supplied on her.

    The USA needs to decide if an incumbent government is allowed to use all its resources to spy on the opposition candidate or if that would be somewhat bad.

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  11. NJF says:

    Sometimes that man finds you Mr. President

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  12. bill says:

    Big mistake to support S702 FISA Act. This Act is constitutional and in violation of the 4 th amendment. Some good layers should take this to the supreme court and have it overturn.

    I have been designing systems to include electronic for last forty years. Their is no such thing as a system that not be broken into. The temptation for getting this information is to great. Don’t do it!

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  13. MM says:

    Admiral Rogers eyes make me think he had the weight of the world on his shoulders..
    Come to find out he did……..

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  14. wheatietoo says:

    What about ‘other’ Queries into NSA data?

    How did that girl, Reality Winner, get access to NSA data after Admiral Rogers closed down the FISC 702 Queries?

    She did that in May 2017…and got busted for giving NSA docs to ‘The Intercept’.
    Whatever it was that she downloaded from the NSA, was said to be about the “Russian collusion story”.

    Reality Winner worked for Pluribus International Corp, based in Alexandria, VA.
    Alexandria is right next to DC.
    But Reality Winner was stationed in the NSA ‘campus’ in Augusta, GA.

    She was fluent in Pashtu, so the general assumption was that her job was to translate transmissions.
    Since those involved a ‘foreign’ language, I wonder if those were provided to her to translate, under the auspices of FISA?

    She apparently got access to other NSA data; data that was not a part of what she was supposed to be working on.

    My point is…this “Fix” might not fix everything.
    There still may be ways that leftist political operatives can get access to NSA data.

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    • MM says:

      Was she set up?

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    • wheatietoo says:

      Btw, there is a little detail that I came across in searching about this Reality Winner case:

      Immediately after she was arrested, Julian Assange reached out to her and called her a ‘hero’.
      I had forgotten about that.

      This could explain why CIA Director Pompeo has appeared to have a dim opinion of Julian Assange.

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    • keeler says:

      It would be naive to assume Trump was the only person the Obama Administration spied on via FISA, that such spying only began in 2015, that the only targets were Republican candidates, and that the only long-term event it monitored was the Republican primary.

      As I noted in a previous thread, Fusion’s transition from working directly with FBI to the Clinton campaign occurred at the same time Trump became the presumptive nominee (The April 19th meeting was also the date of the New York Primary, which eliminated mathematically eliminated Cruz). Rogers’ actions were clearly the direct result of Fusion’s shift, but do we know what brought this abuse to Roger’s attention in the first place? I find it hard to believe that Rogers’ effort to shutdown the queries, Fusion’s intelligence collection, and Trump’s primary run all climaxed at the same point in time completely by accident.

      My assumption is that as a) Trump became the clearer and clearer nominee b) Fusion’s activities increased c) drawing Rogers’ attention which d) caused him to end the query practice which e) pushed Fusion out of official work with the government and towards the Clinton campaign.

      In any event, the Intelligence Community and Fusion were caught spying on Trump and his campaign. If Fusion and the FBI had their hand in Trump’s cookie jar, the possibility that they (or other entities on similar missions) had their hands in others increases exponentially.

      All the focus has rightly been on the relationship between Fusion and IC vis-a-vis Trump, but remember the old saying about cockroaches:

      If you see one…

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      • LetsPlay says:

        The spy game goes both ways. I am waiting for the data on Obama and the rest of the crew, especially Clinton, to come out. Maybe that will be a gift from Assange.

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        • Charlotte says:

          Me too. Esp the Clinton Foundation and Kenyan/Samoan/Iranian Obama’s REAL past!

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        • thedoc00 says:

          As appealing as that act of revenge may sound, it would be a massive mistake, illegal and no better than the Trump Operation run by Obama’s executive administration. It would actually play out all the criticism heaped on Obama’s people by people on this and other forums and support those who want to abolish FISA/FISC all together, which would most definitely include myself if some sort of revenge leak is executed.

          At this point in time I reluctantly support FISA/FISC as a necessary evil, which probably still needs more due process protection to be included if it is to be maintained.

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      • wheatietoo says:

        Yeah, and think about the thousands of people who work for NSA…as ‘analysts’, listening in to people’s conversations.

        Then there are all the outside ‘govt contractors’ who are allowed access to NSA data.

        The ‘purity’ of the entire NSA mission is dependent on the integrity of all those people.
        If they don’t scrap the whole thing…then this really needs to be tightened up.

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      • ladypenquin says:

        The Left, and especially during Obama’s reign, would have been actively spying on anyone and everyone. Dem or GOP. All info to be stored for future extortion or blackmail use. It’s what they do and how they get/hold power.

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        • lumoc1 says:

          Is’n exactly that exactly what Maxine Waters said?

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          • Cuppa Covfefe says:

            And what the Klintoons have been doing since they got their grubby paws on all the FBI and other data back in 1993…

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          • Kristin says:

            If Maxine is right, does Obama, right now, has the ability to access that database? I mean, that data base is his to keep?
            Can he as a civilian “own” things like that? Or that would be an OFA data base….(he gathered while president)?
            Is that legal?
            I know, bringing up “Legal” and “obama” in one thought is very tough.

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            • Alligator Gar says:

              Kristin, this is exactly my concern given Mad Maxine’s revelations (if those revelations are true). Is there right now a private version of the NSA hoovering operation under the control of that foreign bass-turd?

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      • StormyeyesC says:

        At least 17 primary people were spied on They wanted Trump to run against Clinton. No doubt for years before (see Sharyl Attkisson’s timeline of events. It shows you several obvious events that were too coincidental).

        https://sharylattkisson.com/2017/12/05/obama-era-surveillance-timeline/

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        • TheLastDemocrat says:

          StormyEyesC: I appreciate the detail. But it is too hard to just click on this link and review your claim that the powers that be under Obama wanted Trump to be Hiraly’s opponent –
          Can you note at least a couple dates in the Attkisson timeline that support this idea?

          For the most part, everyone believes that Hiraly wanted anyone but Trump – but especially wanted !Jeb!.

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    • d2i says:

      Hey wheatietoo – cryptome.org has several court docs posted in zip files under October 2017 that may help you in answering some of your questions.

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  15. Farmon says:

    Holy cow. Admiral Rogers should go down in the books as one of the finest patriots in our country’s history. Love that he was Navy! (Both my Grandfathers were enlisted Navy in WW2 and my wife’s dad was British Merchant Navy in WW2).

    A bit off topic but relevant: So, we needed to get out tonight on a rare date night and saw Darkest Hour, probably the finest film I’ve seen in 2017 to now. Love that it comes on the heels of Dunkirk, and reveals more of the backstory about the 300,000 troops brought back to the UK during that amazing evacuation. The amazing courage of Churchill to ignite the never give up stiff upper lip of the UK should be remembered forever. I know that our dear PDJT does. To see that film and remember that time through the lens of history, linked to the genius and skill of our President today gives a special appreciation to what we’re seeing unfold this week… I can. not. wait until next week, or ASAP when we see some of the untouchables getting some long awaited justice.

    Some great posts on here, I just hope I can contribute a small portion. Thank you President Donald Trump. Thank you Sundance. Thank you generous tippers who are helping us see more daylight between the twisted swamp vines.

    Allow me to leave you with a quote from the fine Winston Churchill:

    “This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never — in nothing, great or small, large or petty — never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”

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  16. MSO says:

    Our government has proven that they are incapable of handling such power adroitly and responsibly. Now we secret courts and secret warrants (or facsimiles thereof) and secret databases and Directors f the FBI who ‘leak’ information and an IRS that hobbles its political opponents and government agencies who make law through ‘sue and settle’ policies. Our government is corrupt, through and through.

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    • MM says:

      I now have to wonder when our government was always pointing at other governments over corruption was our government just projecting our crimes onto others?
      Look at what all was done to other countries in our names by these corrupt people in our government.

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    • Beenthere says:

      Secret courts (FISC) were set up in the late 1970s to neuter the CIA. Secret databases have been around since the mid 1980s. These instruments of spying were created for seemingly good reasons at the time, but once they get in the hands of power hungry individuals abuse occurs. And these abuses have started under Clinton maybe even under Bush although I wonder if Ollie north abused it too.

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    • lokiscout says:

      If you look at the history of the FBI it has been corrupted from its inception.

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    • dilonsfo says:

      Most of the people placed in power in our at the top of our government do not serve the interests of the USA or the people of this country. Some serve themselves only and others causes they deem the greater “good.” While others serve to ingratiate themselves to the allegiance to party interests to obtain and hold on to power.

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    • LetsPlay says:

      Yes it is. Actually, it is a bit of a shame that Adm. Rogers is retiring. He is the kind of person we need in charge of “remaking” our intelligence institutions. But if he is as good a mentor as he is a leader then I am sure he has brought along a good group of like minded people who will carry on with his attitudes. That is another debt of gratitude our country owes to men like the Admiral.

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      Yes, MSO, we now have many of the abuses which were part of the reason that we parted company with England. The framers of the Constitution would be appalled. The sad fact is that, human nature being what it is, no government should be as large, powerful and intrusive as ours. Unless we can reduce the size and scope of the Federal government, we are headed in the same direction as most of Western Europe and Canada: back to the same condition of servitude from which our founders freed themselves; back to the idea that power proceeds from the top down.

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  17. margarite1 says:

    I’m always overwhelmed by how corrosive the Clintons have been to everyone within their sphere. It’s mind boggling. And shocking at how many of the “best and brightest took a bite out of the power and greed apple.

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    • ladypenquin says:

      Obama did quite a job on stirring up the racist meme and handing out a new deck of racist cards to be played. The Clintons were evil in a different way than Obama – everything they did was for money and power. Obama, did the greater damage in that he is an ideologue and filled with hate for America. He actively worked to destroy America’s status in the world. The Clintons really wouldn’t have liked being a 3rd rate country.

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  18. Justice Warrior says:

    Great work Sundance! Superlative! This is too widespread and too readily available for use by all these agencies for Obama not to be involved. So where’s the evidence? It has to be there. And what will we find out with 1.2 million more pages to come next Monday?!!!

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  19. steve says:

    While I comment Admiral Rogers for his efforts and the “Fix”, I believe like Rand Paul does that any United States Citizen unmasking should require a warrant from other than the FISA court.
    Any fixes done to the FISA Court 702 provisions concerning United States Citizens must be codified in the law to comport with the 4th and 14th Amendments.
    NSA intercepts must never be allowed for general spying on Americans.

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    • Alligator Gar says:

      Rand is an idealist. Laws on the books will not stop these maniacs. Putting TEETH into the law and PROSECUTING and publicly punishing any jackwagon found to violate the law would, IMHO, go a lot further to stopping this mickey-mouse crap.

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  20. positron1352 says:

    I am still upset about Seth Rich. A young man’s life snuffed out and totally hushed up. Yes, I agree. The Clintons are parasites.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      Yep.
      And we really don’t know how many people have been snuffed for political reasons…because they knew too much, or because they were about to go public.

      How many ‘accidental’ deaths were really not accidental.
      It’s possible to fake an accident…and it’s possible to fake a death by ‘natural causes, too.

      Andrew Breitbart and Justice Scalia come to mind.
      Their deaths were declared ‘natural causes’…but there were some suspicious details in both of those cases.

      When it’s a famous person that dies, it gets noticed.
      But when it’s not, the death can be ignored if it is written up as accidental or natural causes.

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  21. Streak 264 says:

    Fixed? LOL
    Till the next abuser comes in!
    I guess now this just all gets forgotten about.

    Should have been shut down till they can prove that abusers are punished.
    I give up on Trump. Maybe we should look at his mental state.
    Comey is laughing at us.

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  22. Kielanders says:

    This really shoots a hole in the tired old Government argument, ‘If you’re not doing anything wrong, then you’ve got nothing to hide or worry about.’.

    Oh yes you do, as an honest person you have every reason in the world to want to hide everything you can from the criminals in government.

    On the flip side, while I’m happy Rogers stepped-up, there was obviously something in his history that indicated to Obama & friends, ‘This is the guy for us.’. For what they were up to, and for such a key position, they had to be looking for a guy that had a history of playing ball.

    So, I’m not quite ready to promote him to ‘hero’ status. He may be as corrupt as the rest of the crew, but finally some line he was asked to cross was too much – none of us have any way to know at this point.

    Still, it would be nice to think there was a white knight left or two.

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    • prenanny says:

      Government is a euphemism for tyranny it just sounds nicer.

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      • ladypenquin says:

        That is the perfect definition of tyranny, prenanny. The Founding Fathers tried to throw off the yoke of such tyranny, but man’s nature tends towards placing those chains once again around their necks. The Constitution and Bill of Rights were intended to keep those chains as light as possible, and if the laws were enforced then we kept our freedom…as much as possible within a complex society. Once the checks and balances began to fail – starting with Woodrow Wilson and “progressivism” – it began the tightening of those chains. The Leftist takeover of our major cultural institutions was the final setup for the likes of a Barack Obama administration.

        Change still must be comprehensive in our cultural institutions to reverse course.

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  23. Craig from Scotland says:

    I suggest NCTC [National Counterterrorism Center] and their private contractors are referred on page 83.
    See page 96 ref: Conclusion

    https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

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  24. yakmaster2 says:

    It appears to me this whole counter terrorism IC effort put into overdrive by George W Bush is making money by the boatloads for a lot of companies(private subcontractors) but not making any us any safer from “lone wolf” terrorists. THIS HAS MORPHED INTO VERY BIG BUSINESS using tons of taxpayer money.
    I resent that fact, along with our loss of freedoms and privacy this massive endeavor was supposed to protect!!

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Folks, this is the angle where you can draw in a lot of the various liberal groups.
      Among us, we hate when the government wages war just so crony business men can make money, we hate when the justice system is just used to create business for private prisons, etc., etc.

      Some of us hate how “education” is just used to make money for book publishers – we are mixed because huge dollars in education means we can brainwash kids, plus have built-in union support at the public’s expense.

      some of us hate how foreign trade deals are all designed to make money for crony big business – although many of us ignore this because we have bought into the “global is good” mantra.

      I agree: massive intelligence apparatus, at the cost of trillions, yielding relatively little benefit – compared to profiling for terrorists, etc. –At the same time, I will repeat: we KNEW: boston bombers, oralndo shooter, ft. lauderdale shooter, and more, plus we missed San Bernardino couple because we decided to NOT surveil social media of those going to and fro through Pah Kee Stan.

      What good is all of this if we fail to catch what is under our nose?

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      You can be “safe” or you can be free, but you probably cannot be both.

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  25. Charlotte says:

    And guess who the private contractors are?

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  26. DanO64 says:

    Logged in for the midnight shift. Did a straight 20 hour one yesterday. Today will be another I’m just say N. The picture of the staff on the east wing walk way with Jen Pasaki and Val Jarret staring at the camera is being flashed to the front of my brain. The look they both have says Guilty as hell.

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  27. Convert says:

    Trump should highlight this and explain briefly just like Sundance did here in his State of the Union and use it to briefly explain, too, what was done to him and his team! FORCE THE PRESS TO COVER THIS BOMBSHELL STORY.

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  28. amwick says:

    Digital information collected, because of national security, used against our President (and who knows who else) I guess what I am wondering about is how this information could be used as evidence in criminal trials.. A very broad question: think about an email where someone admits to something that is criminal. Is that evidence? Digital stuff can be modified, we see that every day with photos… Look at what Katica found out about Stonetear, who was trying to modify and entire database….. This will be very interesting.. very.

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  29. DanO64 says:

    This time the main gladiator is President Donald Trump. Took a short break from CTH to see what is being reported on the “news” site. The REAL shitholes can actually talk to millions everyday, 24 hours a day. Incredible. Like I have been say N, when the “ledger” (bank records of Fusion Based Inspections, e.g FBI is GPS) they will ALL look like the judge in the movie the Untouchables when he reads the note while on the bench stating his name was also in the Al Capone corruption payment ledger.

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  30. G. Combs says:

    Incase you think this was limited to Obummer. Here is a case of the USDA using ‘About queries’ and unmasking on a private citizen in 2008

    https://web.archive.org/web/20081015180426/http://www.horsegazette.com/NAIS/NAIS_Supporters_Fighting_Dirty.html
    “…Since it is apparent that some of you think our government agencies are above board, let me share a story of my recent experience….”

    The USDA used her private e-mails to get her tossed out of an Expo where she showcases her horses and hay that she sells.

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    • Lburg says:

      That was a real horror story – and absolutely believable.

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    • Alligator Gar says:

      Add to this poor woman’s experience the proposed execrable NAIS (national animal identification system). This bone-headed anti-liberty program proposed to do EU-style tracking of the “national herd” (ummm, I thought my horses and chickens were MINE, not the “nation’s”) from birth/hatch to death–for “food safety”.

      Keep a weather-eye out for the resurfacing of NAIS at some point….it WILL happen.

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  31. Tommy Tunes says:

    OH I REALLY LIKE THIS STORY ABOUT HOW HILLARY GOT THOSE FISA WARRANTS LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2018/01/carr_clinton_s_dodgy_dossier_is_way_worse_than_watergate

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Bigger than Watergate. Story breaks on Jan 11, with document saying political operative contractors were allowed to browse all NSA by FBI invite, and so far, the count of mainstream media coverage: 1 commentary in Boston Herald.

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    • steph_gray says:

      Oh I am so glad Howie wrote this! I got to listen to a little of his show a couple of days ago and he was focused on the DACA thing, not seeing the big picture of what PDJT is doing, which was disappointing to me (his was honest disappointment – the illegal issue is #1 with him). But he is one of the earliest and yuuuugest Trump supporters in radio, and the real deal as far as investigative journalism goes. I have been texting him occasionally with cth tidbits. Just did again with the latest. Can’t wait to hear his show today.

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  32. DanO64 says:

    I did it for the team. Just finished watching about an hours of yesterday and last nights “news” clips. They are all frick’n crazy at CNN. The words they used are well beyond shithole, which now is OK to say and write Funny, and then just like that……

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  33. SPMI says:

    The fix is fixed on Dems.
    The swamp has a new name
    S h * t h o l e

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  34. wtd says:

    Not sure if accurate, but interesting if true….A tweet from HousatonicIT states:
    Did you know #PeterStrzok was the last person known to move the offsite backup server that contained all of the backups of the deleted HRC emails ? He was THE person who requested to pick it up hours after Grassley’s letter. @TruthinGov2016

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  35. Ber Knar says:

    Since the Pres has the authority to declassify anything, therefore he must have now allowed society to freely use the term s…hole?

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  36. D. Manny says:

    The only way POTUS can fix it is if it’s an EO….specifically EO 12333
    https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/obama-expanding-nsa-powers/513041/

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  37. D. Manny says:

    ****SEPTEMBER 26, 2016******
    (Media Matters) Brock et al. said “we need to start hurting people” by deploying NSA spy software, specifically FOXACID, on Reddit, Twitter, 4chan and 8chan posters, identifying their leaders, getting their IP addresses, doxing (obtain personal information of an Internet poster, including real name, known aliases, address, phone number, SSN, credit card number, etc.), tracking their online activities , and infecting their computers with “magic lanterns” — viruses that log the keystrokes of the infected computer. For all of which Brock said “we have full clearance. Word of God.” (>>>has the “Word of God”<<<)

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/05/31/democrat-operative-david-brocks-chat-shows-nsa-surveillance-used-to-identify-and-disable-online-trump-supporters/comment-page-1/
    ———————–

    “****OCTOBER 26th 2016,****
    NSA Admiral Rogers informed the FISA Court of numerous unauthorized FISA-702(17) “About Query” violations.” And shuts down About Queries permanently.

    ————————-

    *******NOVEMBER 15, 2016************
    DNI James Clapper calls for the head of Admiral Rogers

    ————————-

    Then Twitter/FB/Google starts banning Conservatives by IP address……
    #FusionCollusion

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  38. Ziiggii says:

    An old article at Salon that talks about the privatization of NSA capabilities and it’s need to lean on contractors – but buried in the article is this

    But how did NSA, long considered the crown jewel of U.S. intelligence, become so privatized in the first place?

    In the late 1990s, faced with a telecommunications and technological revolution that threatened to make the NSA’s telephonic and radar-based surveillance skills obsolete, the agency decided to turn to private corporations for many of its technical needs.

    The outsourcing plan was finalized in 2000 by a special NSA Advisory Board set up to determine the agency’s future and codified in a secret report written by a then-obscure intelligence officer named James Clapper. “Clapper did a one-man study for the NSA Advisory Board,” recalls Ed Loomis, a 40-year NSA veteran who, along with Binney and two others, blew the whistle on corporate corruption at the NSA.
    “His recommendation was that NSA acquire its Internet capabilities from the private sector. The idea was, the private sector had the capability and we at NSA didn’t need to reinvent the wheel.”

    https://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/digital_blackwater_meet_the_contractors_who_analyze_your_personal_data/

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  39. Ziiggii says:

    The AP has just discovered the Awan’s all of a sudden:

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  40. D. Manny says:

    Evelyn Farkas, aka CrowdStrike, admits she was right in the thick of all this unmasking….

    “I was urging my former colleagues and, frankly speaking, the people on the Hill. It was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people: “Get as much information as you can. Get as much intelligence as you can before President Obama leaves the administration.” Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left.”

    She is admitting that CrowdStrike was the recipient too of all this NSA 702 About Queries……

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  41. bill says:

    Did Former CIA director John Brennan lie to the House Intelligence Committee?

    Watch the first 20 minutes. WATCH LIVE: Former CIA director John Brennan testifies before

    House Intelligence Committee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGg8gpGqr-w&feature=youtu.be

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  42. nomorebsplz says:

    People really need to read D. Manny’s posts in this and the last few threads.
    Would love to hear Sundance’s take on them.

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  43. Ziiggii says:

    Going back through old reporting – Sara Carter had an article back in May 2017 that talked about the April 2017 released FISC document (https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf) that SD sighted in the other article which talked about FBI contractors having access to 702 data points, but also in the article Sara shares a DOJ OIG report:

    The court also opined aloud that it fears the violations are more extensive than already disclosed.

    “The Court is nonetheless concerned about the FBI’s apparent disregard of minimization rules and whether the FBI is engaging in similar disclosures of raw Section 702 information that have not been reported,” the April 2017 ruling declared.

    The court isn’t the only oversight body to disclose recent concerns that the FBI’s voluntary system for policing its behavior and self-disclosing mistakes hasn’t been working.

    The Justice Department inspector general’s office declassified a report in 2015 that reveals the internal watchdog had concerns as early as 2012 that the FBI was submitting ‘deficient” reports indicating it had a clean record complying with spy data gathered on Americans without a warrant.

    https://www.circa.com/story/2017/05/25/politics/declassified-memos-show-fbi-illegally-shared-spy-data-on-americans-with-private-parties

    Here’s that OIG report:
    https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2015/o1501.pdf

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  44. James W Crawford says:

    Liberal heads are exploding at the thought that it is President Trump who is the champion of privacy rights and the freedom from the unreasonable searches and seizures that were committed by Obama’s storm troopers.

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  45. D. Manny says:

    The one phrase to keep a watch out for and that will become a bone of contention in the future is: “Minimization process.”

    That’s going to become America’s vocabulary very soon.

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  46. jeans2nd says:

    https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/1832-dni-coats-establishes-new-intelligence-community-policy-on-requests-for-identities-of-u-s-persons-in-disseminated-intelligence-reports
    This directive was from a Pres Trump EO earlier in the year which i do not care to look up right now.
    The NCTC has a separate db all its own, in addition to access to NSA, CIA, and other dbs. Does no one else really know how all this stuff works? Obviously not, it would seem. This stuff has been going on since the days of modems, esp w/contractors. The GSs do not want the contractors there. Ask czar or perhaps nyet, they will confirm, methinks. The contractors are given next to nothing to do, they just take up a chair in a contract company’s profit center. Best shutup now. More later. Remember Chas McCullough. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/27/blowback-clinton-campaign-planned-to-fire-me-over-email-probe-obama-intel-watchdog-says.html

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    • Alligator Gar says:

      Yes, a lot of us DO know how this works and haven’t liked it from the git-go. This latest round of abuse to come to light should, in my liberty-loving mind, be enough to scrap this whole odoriferous nest of scorpions, crush the scorpions, and “wipe with a cloth” the information illegally obtained. (Where is the WARRANT granted by a JUDGE allowing these arseholes to gather SPECIFICALLY targeted (as described in the warrant) intel on AMERICAN citizens? THAT is a Constitutional right that no mere sleazy “act of CONgress” can deny any American one of us. “Unmasking” my great aunt Fanny!)

      No more sacrificing liberty for um….it’s not really security, is it? Well, it is security for the evil anti-American espionage agents, Democrat operatives, and crapweasels who seek dirt on people solely to blackmail opponents for political gain.

      Close this tax-funded Demonrat oppo research scam down yesterday. If there are foreign bad guys, #1, don’t let them into the country and, #2, put milintel on their azzes.

      We don’t need this alphabet soup collusion against the American people EVER again, for ANY reason. It’s obvious the kids can’t handle their toys.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        Thank you and amen, motion seconded. Tell ppl what it is really like and you are told oh your info is too old, you don’t know. At which point you need shutup due to sec clearance concerns.
        Def NOT security, imo.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      The doc in question is the Presidential Memorandum for the Director of National Intelligence The White House issued 2 Jan 2018 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-memorandum-director-national-intelligence/.

      Reading through all the policies, procedures, and reporting requirements for FBI and all the other alphabet agencies, esp FBI https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/ppd-28-policies-procedures-signed.pdf one suspects you are correct w/the Crowdstrike theory. Every Executive agency has one of these policies/procedure in response to Obama’s Presidential Policy Directive SigInt PPD-28 dtd 17 Jan 2014 https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/01/17/presidential-policy-directive-signals-intelligence-activities
      Russia being a purchaser of Fusion GPS’s services, Fusion GPS might have been reticent to continue the search w/any further involvement w/the U.S. government. Crowdstrike, working w/the DNC and Obama/Clinton Inc, seems a more likely prospect.

      No one pays any attention to the contractors. Put them in a room or cube, give them some busy work – or no work at all – and keep them away from the GSs doing the real work – see ObamaCare website. Look at what Snowden was able to do unnoticed. Nothing has changed since years ago, except for becoming worse. The DOJ NSD would be the likely place to do the queries, w/no oversight imo.

      Chas McCullough was already thoroughly beaten into submission by this time. Apparently the morale never improved as McCullough’s beatings continued. McCullough would have been the IC IG when the NSA review was conducted iirc. McCullough did the review of Clinton’s emails in 2015 https://oig.state.gov/system/files/statement_of_the_icig_and_oig_regarding_review_of_clintons_emails_july_24_2015.pdf
      and was beaten down by Obama/Clinton Inc and the State Dept IG.

      After Snowden, Obama loudly and publicly went after leakers. Who Obama was really going after were the whistleblowers. The passage of the Whistleblower Protection Act in 2012 seemed to give some ppl hope, so the IGs were targeted to shutup by Obama Inc. Apparently it worked, esp w/the IC IG.

      What a terrible way to live one’s life. No wonder 92% of D.C. voted for Clinton. Can you imagine the fear these ppl are/were in? They have no escape, either, perhaps less than we.
      Anyway, odds are the DOJ NSD/FBI Crime Cabal was a small circle, imo, opinion which is worth the paper on which it was written (hint – did not use paper). ok bye

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      • jeans2nd says:

        Director of the National Counterterrorism Center Nicholas J Rasmussen announced his retirement on 14 or 15 Nov 2017. Rasmussen has continuously been in counterterrorism since 11 Sep 2001, Dir since 18 Dec 2014. Rasmussen has no plans.

        The NCTC was begun by Bush EO 13354 and the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 under John Brennan.
        (The NCTC)…has access to various databases, including those from the NSA and the CIA, and is in charge of the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment (TIDE) database.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Counterterrorism_Center

        In 2012, the United States Attorney General Eric Holder granted the agency the authority to collect, store, and analyze extensive data collections on U.S. citizens compiled from governmental and non-governmental sources for suspicious behavior through pattern analysis and to share the databases with foreign states. The effort has drawn controversy for its pre-crime effort, which has been likened to the Information Awareness Office and its proposed mass surveillance.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Rasmussen

        —>>>TIDE database
        —>>>extensive data collections on U.S. citizens
        —>>>share the databases with foreign states

        Christpoher Steele was an employee of Fusion GPS, implicitly trusted by FBI et al due to prior contacts. One guy, whose contract is paid by a third party, is easily overlooked, imo. See Snowden example.
        you all have all the other pieces, imo, and you all collectively are much smarter than i

        What price “security?”

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  47. Watcher says:

    Clapper and Brennan were both executives of large CIA/NSA contractors before zero hired them.

    From 2006 to 2007, Clapper worked for GeoEye (satellite company) and was an executive on the boards of three government contractors, two of which were doing business with the NGA while he was there: In October 2006 as chief operating officer for the British military intelligence company Detica, now DFI and U.S.–based subsidiary of BAE Systems, also SRA International and Booz Allen Hamilton.
    Clapper defended the private sector’s role in his 2010 confirmation hearings: “I worked as a contractor for six years myself, so I think I have a good understanding of the contribution that they have made and will continue to make.”

    Brennan then left government service for a few years, becoming Chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA) and the CEO of The Analysis Corporation (TAC). He continued to lead TAC after its acquisition by Global Strategies Group in 2007 and its growth as the Global Intelligence Solutions division of Global’s North American technology business GTEC, before returning to government service with the Obama administration as Homeland Security Advisor on January 20, 2009.

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  48. aeronjericho says:

    This will destroy the DNC, Media, Courts them all, this will all play out this year all during campaign season.A few years even Activist Judges will be reviewed by Congress and impeached.

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