President Trump National Monuments Speech – Utah State Capitol 2:20pm Livestream

President Trump has travelled to Utah today for several appearances.  After meeting with faith-based LDS leadership President Trump travels to the Utah State Capitol to deliver a speech on national monuments and returning land to state control.  The anticipated start time is 12:20pm local / 2:20pm Eastern

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148 Responses to President Trump National Monuments Speech – Utah State Capitol 2:20pm Livestream

  1. Pam says:

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    • fleporeblog says:

      Keep in mind that Orin Hatch has now served under 7 Presidents. That is why these remarks are so incredible.

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    • chojun says:

      (cross post from the Daily thread)

      Yes as a Utahn I can say this is a very dangerous situation. Mitt could easily primary Hatch and win in a landslide. Mitt Romney is (not surprisingly) a never-Trumper and is also part of the GOPe power network. Orrin Hatch and Trump have been purposefully embracing each-other. I think this is also why Bannon’s candidate Boyd Matheson dropped out – it’s all hands on deck to keep Romney out of the Senate.

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      • yy4u says:

        Romney is as much a part of the Democrat party as Chuck Schumer. He just doesn’t admit it. That’s why he was such a pit bull in the GOP primary when Newt defeated him in SC but rolled over and played dead when debating Obama. I despise Romney even more than I despise Obama. Both are equally dangerous to the USA, but Obama is at least openly anti USA.

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      • Sayit2016 says:

        I will never forget the comments Romney made about President Trump… he is dead to me.

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        • chojun says:

          Agree 100%. I was a staunch Romney supporter on the basis that as a fellow Mormon he held himself to high standards of personal integrity. He opened his mouth and blew all that away in one asinine speech against MY guy Mr. Trump. Part of me died that day and I have NEVER experienced such extreme anger for anyone!

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          • Sayit2016 says:

            You and me both….#coldcoldanger

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          • In Az says:

            @ chojun,
            Same with me.
            I was shocked that he went after Candidate Trump the way he did. He exposed himself as a globalist and anti American.
            (I never liked Romney because of Bain Capital. )

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            • WSB says:

              Romney is hiding something very ugly that he wants kept below the surface.

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            • sat0422 says:

              I remember commenting that Romney needed to check in to a mental hospital and seek treatment. He was so hateful and his responses led me to believe that he is indeed in bed with the Democrats. Talk about unstable – look at Mitt Romney.

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          • filia.aurea says:

            I have never supported Mitt Romney. I would like to see him indicted for RICO crimes. His only redeeming quality is his wife’s ability to make Welsh Cakes. Secretary Zinke is truly a bright star in our President’s administration. President Trump IS FULFILLING EVERY PROMISE HE MADE DURING THE CAMPAIGN. All praise goes to God, through our Savior Jesus Christ. God Bless the Navaho.

            A truly great intellect, a man named David Hawkins, reminded me today that the most dangerous form of government is the Bureaucratic kind. The President is dismantling their evil works. We are entering a period of rebirth.

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      • n1ghtcr4wler says:

        Do you give carpet bagger Romney a higher chance to win than Hatch?

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        • chojun says:

          yes. Romney would win in a landslide. That’s why I say the situation is so dangerous. Behind the scenes there is probably some pretty serious wrangling between donor networks and the NRSC (which should be on Hatch’s side). I think this is why Hatch has been seen with President Trump so much lately.

          Hatch has been behind some pretty bad stuff in the senate but just imagine if Romney took his place.

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      • Steven says:

        Unfortunately, but Romney did save the Salt Lake Winter Olympics. That was when it was totally broken, hinging on being cancelled. And then 9/11 happened, when federal government ordered the committee to increase security hundredfold. Romney helped the games walking away in the black, the best ever. For that, Utahns are forever grateful. It has been 16 years but he still walk on cloud among them.

        However, I think Utahns are now seeing that Romney being good with something, however impossible it was, does not make him an ideal person for everything.

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      • Kolob says:

        I am not convinced Mitt would win in a landslide, many of us are deeply, coldly angry with Mitt. He just does not have the support he did before he proved himself such an idiot during the elections and recently with Roy Moore. I live in Utah, but am not from Utah so I see the state a bit differently from the natives. Every Trump supporter I knew here was very quiet about it. Those I knew who supported McMuffin like Trump now. All of them mention Gorsuch and other promises kept like today’s. The anti Trump contingent control the media and are very loud, but they do not represent Utah.

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  2. Pam says:

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    • ahem says:

      I’d like to see him do something with the American Native Indians so that their lot may be greatly improved.

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      • In Az says:

        @ ahem
        Agree.
        I live near an Apache Reservation. It has a casino. I do not understand why some Tribe members have nice houses, drive new fancy trucks and many others still have nothing. Most of the reservation looks like a third world country.
        Two weeks ago in the grocery store parking lot, at dusk, I was approached by a male Apache who asked for money. He missed the bus that would have taken him back to the reservation. He was hungry, no money and said he would have to spend the night somewhere, and he would get the bus the next day. I gave him ten dollars. It was too far for me to give him a ride to the reservation as I had just came from near the reservation and was on my way home. I felt bad that I could not take him to the reservation. I had been gone all day and needed to get home myself.

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        • WSB says:

          Socialism VS Capitalism

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        • Sylvia Avery says:

          I live in close proximity to several Native American tribes and reservations. I am not an expert on NA issues AT ALL. But, I had the opportunity about 15 years ago to work on a project that was funded with federal money to provide social services on tribal land.

          During that project, I got to know several of the tribal members fairly well and we talked about some planned development of tribal property for a casino and a kind of a big shopping center. Anyway, I said that I imagined that this would be really good for the tribal members and really bring them a lot of wealth.

          Their response shocked me a bit, although I don’t know why. Human nature is human nature, after all. It turned out there was a big scandal involving tribal leaders. They were getting rich, all right, but the tribal members not so much.

          It was an old, familiar story. Trusted chief, lining his pockets and his immediate family. When it was discovered, there was some reluctance to expose the guy. Some limited exposure finally occurred and some small measure of justice provided and the chief had to step down, but still… The wealth didn’t get distributed as promised.

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    • Will there be anything left of Obama’s Legacy to put on the walls of his future Presidential Library? Maybe it won’t happen. Maybe Obama will be in prison. One can hope.

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  3. Pam says:

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    • chojun says:

      The man in the middle is the 1st counselor of the First Presidency of Church leadership. The man on the right is the President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, also considered senior Church leadership

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      • Galadriel says:

        The Q15 (top Mormon leaders) are all Never Trumpers behind closed doors. It’s also pretty obvious with statements that the Church Newsroom makes that they are anti-Trump, unfortunately.

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        • In Az says:

          The Mormon leaders are anti Trump thanks to the anti Americans and globalists, who claim to be LDS…. Lee, Flake, Chaffetz, Romney, Love, Hatch and others who have the privilege of being able to meet with the LDS leaders.

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          • navysquid says:

            true the above mentioned are anti-Trump but as mentioned below by me there are thousands of Mormons that both worked and supported Trump during his campaign, HENCE, why Flake and Chaffetz are not seeking re-election as they could not even get support by the LARGE LDS Trump supporters in AZ and UT. Don’t buy into any belief that Pres Trump does not have support among the Mormon community because he does have it in large quantities.

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          • NvMtnOldMan says:

            In Az- correct, Mia couldn’t wait to get to DC and join the black cacaus. A rino all the way.

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          • sat0422 says:

            Love has been one huge disappointment.
            Hatch may hold a key to open doors a little wider for support.
            Lee is such a work of deception. The last words I remember hearing him say is that Trump was sooooo mean to his good friend Ted Cruz who wanted so much to be President – the Canadian. I will say that Cruz has proven to be a better Senator than Lee.
            Flake is soon gone and I wish it was sooner
            Chaffetz is becoming a talking head and can be heard on the 24/7 so called news channels – seems like a nice enough guy but if he proves to be anti-Trump I have no use for him.
            Romeny needs mental health treatment – lots of it too.

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        • navysquid says:

          “The Q15 (top Mormon leaders) are all Never Trumpers behind closed doors.”
          That is FLAT OUT not true…the Newsroom also is an editorial place just like any other media outlet with varied voices. There are thousands and thousands of Mormon Trump Supporters who helped get him elected and worked on his campaign throughout UT, AZ, WY, ID, CA, NV, CO, etc

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      • It sounds like they do amazing work chojun.

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    • Troublemaker10 says:

      Mormons we’re very anti Trump during the election, for sure. However, over time they might warm up to him. I hope this interaction represents the beginning of that. Nice video.

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      • navysquid says:

        This is NOT true…people are of the belief that because the anti-Trumpers of Romney, Lee, Flake, etc do not like him then the LDS community follows and that is false; just as the MSM puts out fake news WE ALL do not believe and or follow it though that is what America sees on its TV’s and online.

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      • wjb105 says:

        I remember that PJT held a rally somewhere in Utah (I think during the primaries). It was a very lively crowd. So I never thought much of McMuffin’s chances.

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  4. Pam says:

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  5. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    anyone got video of zinke’s speech?

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  6. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    how about video of trump at the grocery store?

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    • Regina says:

      I believe he’s at a food bank?
      Now we’ll hear how he’s stealing from the poor 😉

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      • MfM says:

        I’m not Mormon, but it’s a little different than a food pantry.

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        • Regina says:

          you’re right, I think I remember reading about that before – it’s more of a co-op?

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          • chojun says:

            No it’s called the Bishop’s Storehouse, which technically is like a food bank or food pantry. It’s not necessarily open to anyone in the public but the Church will hand out to the needy if they contribute in some way. It’s like work-fare, the way that welfare should be.

            Welfare square also has a very large warehouse that stores all kinds of basic supplies for natural disasters – these are sent all over the world.

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            • Regina says:

              thank you – appreciate that explanation

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            • So chojun, it is like a food pantry but the goods are freely given?

              Where does your church get the food and stuff that they give away to the needy people?

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              • chojun says:

                Yes but more along the lines of a “community resource center” because it doesn’t deal in just food.

                The resources are given out to the needy as required by them but they are given in exchange for some kind of work or service (not as a handout).

                The food is purchased as part of the Worldwide Church “Fast Offerings” program. Every month Mormons fast on the first Sunday for 2 meals and donate the amount those 2 meals would’ve cost to the Church. The funds are used to stock these storehouses and also go to humanitarian causes throughout the world (such as natural disasters, etc).

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                • This is a very good idea and it sounds like the fund necessary are given freely, not taken by force like our tax system.

                  You indicate that they are donated after a fasting by your members.

                  Amazing and very nice.

                  It also sounds like a comprehensive ( I hate that word but it works here) program that tries to help people get back on their feet if possible.

                  I really wish our gov’t hand out programs worked that way.

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              • kroesus says:

                LDS is second only to the RCC for wealthiest church……it has all sorts of industries that are church-owned in addition to the regular tithing by church members……Deseret Industries is just one among many they own…..LDS also has a policy of stockpiling critical supplies both personally and as a church for times of need……their industries are typically in the goods and delivery sectors making warehouses they use both as storage and transit points very useful

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              • navysquid says:

                The LDS Church also has large working cattle and other farms throughout the US that they grow their own beef, chicken, pork, etc and other farm-related foods and cotton that they use to supply these storehouses that people can in times of tragedy or loss of employment can gain access by seeing their local Bishop and receive temporary assistance with food and even help to find employment through employment centers. The people are typically encouraged to go work at the storehouse, if physically able, and in turn, receive whatever food they may need for their family for a couple of weeks and if still needed you can return for a time. These storehouses have everything from milk, eggs, cheese, healthy cereals, baby food, diapers, jams, honey, sugar, flour, etc…basic staple foods.

                The system is TRULY how a welfare system should work. Ronald Reagan once said in a visit similar to Pres Trump’s today that if America ran its welfare system like the Mormon Church we would have very little debt in our welfare budget. The thing is Obama and Clinton wanted to just give money away without work.

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          • MfM says:

            I’m not Mormon and I’m not sure if it’s the same now as a couple of years ago since things do change. There is the Bishop’s Storehouse which is sort of like a food pantry as chojun said… but there was/is what were called Home Storage Centers were people could by things like oatmeal, wheat, sugar, dried apples, dried carrots and many more items at low cost already packed for Long Term Storage in no. 10 cans or not for LTS in 25/50 pound bags.

            The Mormon’s believe in being prepared for tough times. Some of the Home Storage Centers were/are open to non-Mormons.

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  7. Luke of the D says:

    Bye-bye BLM (the Bureau of Land Management, that is, not the racist one)! Trump is talking straight up States Rights!

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    • Steven says:

      Looks like Pres. Trump is shown the sheet that our local congregation leaders (bishops and Relief Society presidents) use to fill out during the meeting with individual families when they need assistance. The same sheet is brought to the Bishop’s storehouse and handed to the volunteers (we call them welfare missionaries). They would walk with you through the storehouse and get you things you need, and at the same time, giving you the time and attention to help you feeling Lord’s love.

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  8. tonyE says:

    The Feds own way too much land out here in the West.

    Even our Soviet Kommissars in Calimexistan would not dare take so much land into public ownership.. so the let Obola The Magnificent do their dirty deeds.

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    • kroesus says:

      Feds CLAIM to “own way too much land out here in the West”…..read the US Constitution and see the restrictions placed on federal ownership of land……the current situation was a form of extortion used by the federal government primarily west of the Mississippi as states entered the Union they were required to relinquish lands within their sovereign territory to be approved….this is both illegal and unconstitutional

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      • In Az says:

        The federal government purchased the land from other countries….. Gadsden Purchase as one example…. Alaska bought from Russia.
        The land was all federal government land.

        When people settled the land before the area became a territory and eventually a state, it was owned by the federal government. A territory was federal government owned.
        When territories wanted to become states the federal government relinquished lands to make statehood.

        Each territory negotiated with the federal government how much federal land the territory would get to become a state. The federal government also stipulated that some land had to support land grant universities. Each state is different as to how much land was negotiated, and the federal government kept control of some land in each state.

        The fact that the federal government can not own land is not that clear cut. Going by memory here. It has never been declared unConstitutional by the Supreme Court.

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  9. Obama’s legacy is dwindling by the day.

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  10. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    Orrin so happy he might cry! .. MAGA love!

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  11. Regina says:

    repost (wrong thread)
    I’m so happy about Utah – I’m not familiar with the lead-in to this action, but do we have reason to believe Oregon and Nevada may be in for similar proclamations in the near future?
    Hopefully followed by a pardon for all the ranchers taken down by the BLM

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  12. Ditch Mitch says:

    Called National Monuments speech. Signing ceremony. Hmm…is PDJT being slick? Endorsing Hatch and making nice with Lee? The people of UT love him!

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  13. andyocoregon says:

    President Trump has reversed Obama’s federal land grab in Utah.

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  14. JAS says:

    Wow! What a nice speech – from the heart! There was chanting while he was signing the orders “four more years, four more years”.

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  15. tuskyou says:

    Tuned in just in time for him to sign a hat–gotta be fast with this President!

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  16. n1ghtcr4wler says:

    there was big applause. Egg McMuffin isnt happy

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    • Regina says:

      he’s on the phone with Mitch, plotting –

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    • napoleon32 says:

      He’s probably on the phone with the Mormon leadership right now begging them not to kick him to the curb. If they turn their backs on him his ability to cause trouble for the President among Mormons will evaporate and he will have no purpose in life. #NeverTrump is a sad place to be.

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      • chojun says:

        Mormons support Trump. Evan McMullin is part of the Romney political network.

        Notice how much support Trump is getting from Mike Lee. Lee must feel pretty stupid for his convention antics. #NeverTrump died pretty hard in Utah although there are still a few people here and there who proclaim their hatred for Trump but it’s mostly just virtue signaling.

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  17. Binkser1 says:

    Is it wrong of me to wish that a few Secret Service agents would swing by Romney’s placeand rough up Mittens a little?

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  18. fleporeblog says:

    They absolutely LOVE our LION! I got tears in my eyes as the screamed 4 more years! Our President has such a smile on his face hearing those beautiful words. Thank you UTAH!

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  19. Publius2016 says:

    The President is popular with everyone but snowflakes, Antifa/BLM, and liberals! It’s over, people. 2020 is won! Get to work Fools in Congress…get to work.

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  20. Pam says:

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  22. Summer says:

    I hope Sundance will post a video. I missed the speech, watched only the signing ceremony.

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    • Summer says:

      Finally watched the video. Thank you Sundance! Beautiful, beautiful speech and wow, Mike Lee embracing and thanking President Trump for his leadership.

      I still remember the Convention and how the Utah delegation tried to derail Trump and install Lyin Ted against the wishes of the voters, and how they later supported ISIS-loving CIA Deep swamper Egg McMuffin. And I will Never forget.

      Still, it was a nice display of unity.

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  23. Bull Durham says:

    Don’t Fence Me In

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  24. andyocoregon says:

    Let’s not forget Obama signed that Executive Order that created the Utah National Monuments land during the last few weeks of his presidency. It was a real slap in the face to many people in the Northwest and Obama knew he’d receive a lot of criticism for it, so he waited until he was almost out of The White House to do it.

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  25. fleporeblog says:

    If folks are wondering what our President did today!

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/4/trump-cuts-down-bears-ears-grand-staircase/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push

    From the article linked above:

    Saying it was his duty to “reverse federal overreach” by both the Obama and Clinton administrations, President Trump on Monday signed two proclamations to greatly reduce the size of the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments in Utah.

    At a speech in Salt Lake City, Mr. Trump said previous presidents have greatly abused their power under the century-old Antiquities Act, and stretched the law past its limits in cordoning off millions of acres of land and placing them under government control.

    The president’s long-awaited actions were immediately decried by environmentalists and Democrats who threatened to sue the White House. But Mr. Trump said his decision simply came down to giving land control back to the people.

    “The families of communities of Utah know and love this land the best and you know best how to take care of your land. You know how to protect it,” he said, going on to blast the “bureaucrats” who shut off land from energy development, recreation, and other activities prohibited once an area is declared a national monument.

    “They don’t know your land and truly they don’t care for your land like you do,” the president said.

    Mr. Trump’s proclamations will dramatically shrink both monuments, and his moves are expected to allow coal and uranium mining in areas previously shut off from energy exploration.

    The Antiquities Act was never designed as a tool to protect such huge swaths of land. The law states that a monument designation should be limited to the “smallest area” compatible with the artifacts or other historical items to be protected.

    “Previous administrations have ignored the standard and used the law to lock up hundreds of millions of acres of land and water under strict government control,” Mr. Trump said. “These abuses of the Antiquities Act give enormous power to far away bureaucrats at the expense of the people who actually live here, work here, and make this place their home.”

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  26. keeler says:

    Federal land ownership isn’t the problem. It has been long and beneficial arrangement for the American people and individual states which dates back to the Northwest Ordinance of 1787. There is a misconception that land has been “taken” from states and aggregated to the Federal government. This is simply not true, as the vast majority of Federal lands have always been owned and administered by the federal government. Often, these lands included large areas of desert waste and wilderness that were not accessible or open to economic development in the 19th century, ie lands that the territories/states and their governments/populations had little use or administrative control over at the time. Indeed, most Federal lands are an artifact of the process of incorporating unsettled Western land into territories and then admitting those territories into the Union.

    There is a problem, however: post New Deal/World War II, and particularly since the Clinton Administration, and very particularly under the Obama Administration, the Federal Government has been increasingly prescriptive in regards to Federal land management. Traditional land right uses, which are critical to Western states’ economies and including activities such as mining, ranching, drilling, have been all but banished via the Antiquities Act of 1906 and through agency-driven regulation.

    The mixed used, public access philosophy on which the Federal lands system was founded has been corrupted by leftist politics which deems any economic activity as sinful. People whose families have used lands for centuries have suddenly found themselves treated as trespassers and criminals due to this shift. States which have counted on the economic development and use of Federal lands have been crippled. Federal land agencies have been weaponized like so much of the Washington government, to the detriment of the people.

    I am happy to see that under “America First” we are beginning to see the pendulum swing back towards the traditional philosophy of allowing public access and economic development of federal lands. Furthermore, the local conditions of the 19th century no longer apply. States now have the ability to administer and develop remote areas within their borders. It is therefore time to examine whether the 18th century arrangement between federal and state government in regards to land ownership is the most efficient in the 21st century.

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    • kroesus says:

      should REALLY read your US Constitution……a law does NOT supersede it and the Constitution is pretty clear about limiting federal land ownership

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      • keeler says:

        What exactly are you disputing here?

        I referred to two laws. The Land Ordinance Act of 1787, which would fall under Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2.

        “2: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.”

        As to the other, the Antiquities Act of 1906, I stated no opinion as to its Constitutionality. To the extent that I offered an opinion on it, I referred to its abuse by Presidents Clinton and Obama. Overall, I stated that it was time to re-evaluate the relationship between the Federal and State governments when it comes land ownership, which would seem to be in alignment with your point of view as I am able to interpret it.

        I did state that the current relationship had been largely beneficial. Beneficial and Constitutional are not the same thing. I can acknowledge something un-Constituitional has been beneficial, while also acknowledging that, being un-Constitutional, it cannot be allowed to continued.

        The fact of the matter is that public lands have existed for over 150 years, and that the system has been beneficial to the American people. Even so, the system is both antiquated and, more importantly, has dubious legal standing. It is therefore probably necessary to re-evaluate the current system and make changes create a different system that has better legal standing and is more aligned to the realities of the 21st century.

        For what I consider a fairly reasonable evaluation of what the Constitution says about Federal land ownership and possible changes to the system, I offer the following observation:

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        “In the process of disposal, the federal government must follow the rules of public trust. It would be a breach of fiduciary duty for the feds to simply grant all of its surplus property to state governments. Each tract must be disposed of in accordance with the best interest of the American people. For example, natural wonders and environmentally sensitive areas (such as those now encompassed by the national parks) might be conveyed under strict conditions to state park authorities or (as in Britain) to perpetual environmental trusts. Land useful only for grazing, mining, or agriculture should be sold or homesteaded, with or without restrictions. The restrictions might include environmental protections, public easements, and protection for hunters and anglers.

        Most states were admitted to the union pursuant to treaties, agreements of cession, and/or laws passed by Congress. These are called organic laws. They include, but are not limited to, enabling acts and acts of admission. These laws cannot change the Constitution, but they have some interesting ramifications for federal land ownership. That is a topic for another posting.”

        https://i2i.org/what-does-the-constitution-say-about-federal-land-ownership/

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  27. chojun says:

    A member of my wife’s extended family is a senior leader in the Mormon Church. I should be seeing him for Chistmas – I’m going to ask him what the thoughts are from today’s Presidential visit and I’ll be sure to post here.

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    • Steven says:

      Please do. I know they are very careful about influencing the LDS members’ decisions on who to vote for, but the anti-Trumpers were almost the loudest in Utah than anywhere else. That does not reflect very well on LDS Church as it seems like we would vote for nobody but other “Mormons”, which is not what is being taught by the Church. We are to vote for the most principled and honest men and women, regardless of their faith affiliations. Those Utahns sure gave us a black eye, eh?

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  28. yy4u says:

    He comes alive when in front of human beings. In front of the media he looks like he’s going to throw up. I’m with him there. The media makes me want to throw up, too.

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  29. yy4u says:

    So Romney wants to run for the Senate from Utah? Since when has that sorry sob lived in Utah? His father was Gov of MI, Romney gov. of MA, has a house in CA — where the devil did he get the idea he can represent Utah?

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    • chojun says:

      He has a house I believe in Park City where he lives part-time. I think many in his family also live in Utah. It would be pretty easy for him to establish residency here and qualify for the ballot.

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      • Steven says:

        He lived there since he was asked to help with the Salt Lake Winter Olympics in 2000. So yes, he’s qualified, unfortunately.

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      • Deplorabalis Parallaxis says:

        He lives in Holladay, right off of Cottonwood Lane in a house he built about 2 years ago.

        I believe he still has his place in Deer Valley as well.

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    • Ditch Mitch says:

      Not gonna happen folks! PDJT endorsed Hatch.

      Mike Lee really impressed me. On stage with our President he showed respect and humility. Takes courage to change that much. Lee was rewarded with a big hanshake/hug.

      At the “pantry” I fell out of my chair laughing at our President pushing a grocery cart around looking lost like most of us guys.

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  30. mot2grls says:

    I love my President Trump! Promises kept! Loyalty to his supporters. Definitely four more years! The first one is going way too fast!

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  31. Wanna have some fun?

    Coastal Liberals decry President Trump’s reduction in the size of these “Interior” Federal Monument land grabs.

    • So President Trump – under the future “Trump Fairness Doctrine” – announces the designation of the California Coastline National Monument equal to the acreage reduction from today’s announcement.

    Liberals cannot scream “unfair”, so they scream “unsustainable”.

    • So President Trump – under the future “Trump Sustainability Doctrine” – announces the California Sustainability Tax Simplification that eliminates California’s State and Local Tax Deductions in order to fund management of the California Coastline National Monument and the increased costs incurred by Homeland Security and the Justice Department due to California’s Sanctuary State laws.

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  32. Speaking to the question of Mittens Romney, he was governor of my state…Massachusetts. So, that tells you how “Republican” *he* is. You have to be to the left of center to be governor of MA.

    Regarding Utah, let’s just put those 6 EV’s in the Deplorable Basket right now for 2020.

    MAGA!

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  33. joninmd22 says:

    For the youngsters who don’t know the Grand Staircase Escalante closure was a payoff for bog Indonesian Donors to Bill Clinton.

    “While sitting on the Arizona side of the Grand Canyon, Bill Clinton signed an order that federalized 1.7 million acres of Utah.

    Why would he dedicate a Utah monument while standing in Arizona? Well, this federal land grab was done without any consultation with the governor of Utah or any member of the Utah congressional delegation or any elected official in the state. The unfriendly Utah natives might have spoiled his photo-op.

    The state already had six national monuments, two national recreation areas and all or part of five national forests. Three-quarters of Utah already was in federal hands. Still, the land grab was sold as a move to protect the environment.

    At the time, the Clintons were worried that Ralph Nader’s presence on the ballot in a few Western states would draw green votes from Clinton in a race that promised to be close after the GOP retook Congress two years earlier.

    In fact, the declaration of 1.7 million Utah acres as a national monument, thereby depriving an energy-starved U.S. up to 62 billion tons of environmentally safe low-sulfur coal worth $1.2 trillion and minable with minimal surface impact, was a political payoff to the family of James Riady.

    He’s the son of Lippo Group owner Mochtar Riady. James was found guilty of — and paid a multimillion dollar fine for — funneling more than $1 million in illegal political contributions through Lippo Bank into various American political campaigns, including Bill Clinton’s presidential run in 1992.

    Clinton took off the world market the largest known deposit of clean-burning coal. And who owned and controlled the second-largest deposit in the world of this clean coal? The Indonesian Lippo Group of James Riady. It is found and strip-mined on the Indonesian island of Kalimantan.

    The Utah reserve contains a kind of low-sulfur, low-ash and therefore low-polluting coal that can be found in only a couple of places in the world. It burns so cleanly that it meets the requirements of the Clean Air Act without additional technology.

    “The mother of all land grabs,” Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said at the time. He has called what was designated as the Grande Staircase of the Escalante National Monument the “Saudi Arabia of coal.””

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/12112-the-clinton-riady-coal-conspiracy/

    There were other articles and criticism at the time and the Riady donations were determined to be illegal. As always with the Clinton’s it’s all about the money. The only difference between this and Uranium One was the fee charged.

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  34. Kolob says:

    I live in Utah and am a Mormon. More and more people are coming onto the Trump Train and this just sealed the deal. If the election were held again today he would win in a landslide. Don’t be fooled by the liberals in Salt Lake. My guy, Rob Bishop, did not waver. Many dislike and/or distrust Romney. I went to an insider Republican event where Jason Chaffetz spoke about Benghazi, very interesting. We gave him hell about not supporting Trump and he seemed blindsided. Older women were giving him a very hard time. Those of us from tougher generations did not consider Trump’s comments about grabbing women disqualifying. Th gullible types who love Romney were the McMuffin voters.
    Church leadership at the top have lots of different perspectives and do not take a stance on partisan politics. We have every possible viewpoint within the church. Remember Harry Reid is a member in good standing. The press in Utah are uniformly anti-Trump and you cannot believe their spin anymore than you can anywhere else.

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    • Sylvia Avery says:

      Thanks. I appreciate your insight. Truly, I was baffled by the Utah Never Trump movement that seemed so strong because I assumed Utah would be a natural Trump supporting state.

      I have tried to read and understand what happened there. I was SO disappointed when I believe the ENTIRE Utah delegation of Senators and Reps were Never Trump. I was just crushed.

      At the time I wondered if it was the perceived woman issue, but I thought the LDS would be strongly supporting a guy who was serious about protecting our freedom to worship. So then I thought, well, maybe in Utah people aren’t so concerned about losing that right since the state is so heavily Mormon.

      Anyway, at this point in my life I don’t have any Mormons who were close enough friends to ask, but I sure did wonder.

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