Las Vegas Shooting Suspect – Stephen Craig Paddock

The man who opened fire on an outdoor concert on the Las Vegas Strip late Sunday, killing at least 58 people and wounding 515 more before he was found dead in a 32nd floor hotel room, has been identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock of Mesquite, Nevada, the Clark County sheriff said at a news conference Monday.

♦64-Year-old “Ordinary Guy”

♦No violent criminal background.

♦Paddock was a licensed pilot, owned two airplanes and had no criminal history beyond a citation that was handled normally.

♦Lockheed Martin said in a statement that Paddock worked for a predecessor company of theirs for three years starting in 1985.

♦Prior Residences: California, Florida, Texas, Nevada (reported 27 residences).

♦Paddock lived in Mesquite, Texas, before moving to Mesquite, Nevada, about 82 miles northeast of Las Vegas

♦More than 10 17 rifles were found in the Mandalay Bay hotel room with Paddock.

♦During the time he owned a home in Melbourne Florida (2013-2015), just west of I-95 in Brevard County, Stephen Paddock bragged about going to The Philippines and Europe. (link)

Watch interview with one of Stephen Paddock’s brothers Eric Paddock of Orlando Florida:

Bruce Paddock (brother) told NBC News the family grew up in Sun Valley, California, and Stephen Paddock (shooter) earned money from managing apartment buildings with his Florida-based mother.

After expressing shock that his brother, “just a guy” who liked to go to Vegas and gamble and see some shows and “eat burritos,” had gone on a murder spree from the window of his room at Mandalay Bay hotel, Eric Paddock disclosed something else about Stephen Paddock’s background. It is disturbingShooter’s brother says their father was Patrick Benjamin Paddock, a bank robber who he says was on FBI Most Wanted list:

BENJAMIN “CHROMEDOME” PADDOCK Ex-Tucsonian Makes FBI List Of 10 Most Wanted By GILBERT T. MATTHEWS Citizen Staff Writer Known to his associates as “Chromedome,” “Old Baldy,” and “Big Daddy,” Benjamin Hoskins Paddock is Tucson’s contribution to the FBI’s list of 10 most-wanted fugitives. He made the list after escaping on Dec. 31, 1968, from the Federal Correctional Institution at La Tuna, Tex., where he was serving a 20-year sentence for robbing a Phoenix bank in 1960. Paddock — alias Perry Archer, Benjamin J. Butler, Leo Genstein, Pat Paddock and Patrick Benjamin Paddock — hasn’t been seen or heard from since. At the time of the robbery, Paddock lived in Tucson with his wife and four children. Neighbors said they couldn’t believe that the colorful businessman, then 34 years old, was involved in crime. Paddock sold garbage disposal units here under the business name of Arizona Disposer “Chromedome” Co. He called himself “Big Daddy” in connection with a night club operation on North 1st Avenue. Before selling the disposal units, he operated an East Broadway service station and also sold used cars. Although he was imprisoned for the S4,620 holdup of a branch of the Valley National Bank in Phoenix, Paddock also had been accused of two other bank robberies. Those charges were dropped after his conviction. Federal officers reported that when he was arrested in Las Vegas, Paddock attempted to run down an FBI agent with his car. “Since he has utilized firearms in previous crimes, has employed violence in attempting to evade arrest and has been diagnosed as being psychopathic, Paddock should be considered extremely dangerous,” said Palmer M. Baken Jr., agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office. Baker described Paddock as being “A glib, smooth-talking man who is egotistical and arrogant.” (link)

The elder Paddock apparently stayed on the lam until 1978, when he was “captured in 1978 in Oregon where he was running a bingo parlor.”  The sins of the father should not, of course, be visited upon the son.  However…(?)

Stephen Paddock lived just 90 minutes outside Las Vegas in the city of Mesquite, where he purchased a home in a retirement community for just over $369,000 in 2015 according to public records.

Paddock lived there with his 62-year-old girlfriend Marilou Danley, the same woman police announced they were seeking to question on Sunday night as they began their investigation into the horrific terror attack.

LV Independent – Police identified the lone suspect of the mass shooting, who they believe killed himself prior to police entering a hotel room where he was located, as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock from Mesquite. Las Vegas Metro Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said early Monday morning Paddock was found with “an excess of 10 rifles.”

Lombardo said police have located a female person of interest named Marilou Danley out of the country and that she was not with Paddock when he checked into the hotel, though Paddock was using some of Danley’s identification. He said police have had conversations with Danley and believe her “at this time not to be involved.” (link)

GIRLFRIEND/”COMPANION”:

Police were looking for Paddock’s roommate, Marilou Danley, described as his companion/girlfriend.

Authorities later said the 62-year-old person of interest was located outside the country and not believed to be involved in the shooting.

She’s just a nice lady who’s his girlfriend,” Paddock’s brother Eric told media. Authorities said they would try to speak with her when she returned to the U.S.

Clark County Commission Chair Steve Sisolak, who has been at Mandalay Bay since midnight, said that Paddock rented two hotel rooms, one facing north and one facing east, and had visited the hotel two other times. Paddock was using Danley’s slot machine card, which is how police got ahold of her name although she was in the Philippines at the time of the incident, Sisolak said. (link)

It appears Stephen Craig Paddock’s companion Marilou Danley is Filipino.

*Note* there is a currently massive conflict inside the Phillipines between radical islamists and the government of Rodrigo Duterte.

The southern Philippines has a long history of conflict, with armed groups including Muslim separatists, communists, clan militias and criminal groups all active in the area.

Three groups comprise the Muslim separatists – the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and the Abu Sayyaf. The MILF and the Abu Sayyaf are breakaway factions of the MNLF.

The communist insurgency, on the other hand, is propagated by the Communist Party of the Philippines’ (CPP) military wing, the New People’s Army (NPA).

(Reuters) President Rodrigo Duterte on Friday claimed that the Bamboo Triad, which he alleged was behind the proliferation of illegal drugs in the Philippines, had links with the Abu Sayyaf terror group. […] The President on Tuesday said that the illegal drugs operations in the country were taken over by the 14K and Bamboo triads. (link)

REGIONAL DRUG GANGS:

While Duterte’s pronouncements were unclear about the exact nature of the Bamboo triad, the South China Morning Post reported in 2015 on the Taiwan-based United Bamboo triad gang, which they linked to Hong Kong’s 14K triad.

Before Duterte made his revelations, both China and Taiwan issued separate statements saying they had never been the source of illegal drugs in the Philippines.

The SCMP said that the United Bamboo triad, considered as one of the world’s largest organized crime group, was based in Taiwan.  Taiwan, asked Duterte to prove his allegation.  –Understand More Here

REGIONAL ISIS:

On 23 May, 2017, the Armed Forces of the Philippines launched an operation in the city of Marawi to capture or kill Isnilon Hapilon, the declared leader of the Southeast Asian branch of the Islamic State, also known ISIS or ISIL. However, the operation devolved into a battle for the city when security forces met unexpected levels of resistance from the Maute Group, militants who have also aligned themselves with ISIS. By the end of the day, President Rodrigo Duterte had declared martial law across Mindanao, the island on which Marawi sits.

[…]  Longstanding concerns about terrorism in Southeast Asia, recently heightened by the potential return of foreign fighters from Iraq and Syria and the activities of the Abu Sayyaf Group in the Sulu Archipelago, are set to continue. Regional cross-border linkages between armed non-state groups have been boosted by the emergence of ISIS and the subsequent pledges of allegiance to its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi by many of these groups.

The extent of actual links with the ISIS leadership in the Middle East are unclear, and at least initially many groups appeared to use the ISIS name mainly for local gains in recruitment and fundraising. But Philippine authorities believe ISIS has transferred significant funds to Hapilon. The discovery of two Indonesian and two Malaysian fighters among the Maute Group in Marawi was not a surprise, but Lorenzana has said at least two Saudis, a Yemeni, and a Chechen fighter were also among those killed in the city. He added that they were probably ISIS members.  (link)

ISIS ISSUES BACK-TO-BACK CLAIMS OF RESPONSIBILITY:

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TIMELINE:

  • 10:08 p.m. PT – First call to dispatch for reports of shots fired at the Route 91 Harvest Festival outside Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip
  • 10:40 p.m. PT – Alert about an active shooter hits the news wires
  • 11:08 p.m. PT – Las Vegas police shut down a portion of the strip
  • 11:20 p.m. PT – Reports of multiple injured people taken to area hospitals
  • 11:32 p.m. PT – Some flights destined for the McCarran International Airport diverted
  • 11:34 p.m. PT – Portion of Interstate 15 closed
  • 11:56 p.m. PT – Las Vegas hospital says at least 2 dead, 24 injured, 12 critical
  • 12:01 a.m. PT – Las Vegas police say one suspect is ‘down’
  • 1:06 a.m. PT – Southern California police department says off-duty officer among those shot
  • 1:32 a.m. PT – Las Vegas sheriff says officers killed gunman on 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino. (link)

 

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1,011 Responses to Las Vegas Shooting Suspect – Stephen Craig Paddock

  1. A2 says:

    This is my story (reposting from other thread). It is the simplest explanation and someone said it would make a great novel if I threw in a few ‘corrupt DC pols’.

    I just woke up and read Sundance’s thread on Paddock. Very informative. So here is my story based on speculation.

    Filipinos are notorious gamblers (like the legendary Chinese) and in Hong Kong and the Philippines they fund this addiction by borrowing from loan sharks run by Triads. If you don’t pay up someone gets hurt (know this first-hand).

    It is plausible the girlfriend had big gambling debts to pay-off and her life or family back home would have been threatened. Loser Paddock probably sold properties and moved around with her to pay off the debts. Then came the offer.

    He agreed to set up the shooting match, hotel, getaway cars (and planes), guns, and such and the Triads (doing a job for Daesh) did the shooting, killed dumbarse and fled. The girlfriend as insurance that he provide the services, was held in the Philippines until he had fulfilled his part of the bargain.

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    • winky says:

      It is possible that he was being hustled by this woman and he was sending money to her husband (a secret) or her family members

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      • Risa says:

        It’s not unusual for Filipinos to work abroad and send money back to family in the Philippines. Sometimes the workers have children back home being raised by the grandparents.

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        • A2 says:

          That is a major source of income for the Philippines. The women go overseas to work as domestic helpers and other occupations. Remittances are vital for their economy especially in neighboring Asian countries.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      Yeah, but (hypothetically of course) who paid the Triads? Daesh? Professional criminals like this don’t do this sort of thing for the heck of it; they’d want to be paid — a lot, and they’d want some assurances — because this sort of thing can backfire in a big way if you get caught. Professional criminals also don’t like to go to prison — that’s for the peasants.
      I’m not sure Daesh has that kind of money…who is paying for them? That would be the entity with enough money for this.

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      • A2 says:

        Jenny, it seems to me that Daesh has been waging war and terror all over the world, including a major conflict in Mindanao. I remember a certain candidate for president saying ‘take the oil’. The money is there. How much money has the US and other countries spent to put the jihadis down?

        The Triads probably get the concessionary rights to gun running, drugs, prostitution, human trafficking and gambling from Isil in these areas they take over and they have well established ratlines all over Asia, Isil’s new frontier as they get pushed out of the middle east. And those ratlines include Japan. All cosy and profitable if they win.

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    • grlangworth says:

      According to the Sheriff’s briefing in LV, the lady was interviewed from Tokyo, not the Philippines. Also, the Sheriff indicated they intend to re-interview her on her return to the States.

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    • A2 I also believe this was about gambling debts. Mob in Nevada don’t play. (Ask Harry Reid) I don’t believe the massacre was his idea but that he was blackmailed or coerced. I find it impossible to believe this guy acted alone. But…the piece I’m trying to figure out…who chose the target? This stinks like a collaborative effort involving Soros, organized crime, and maybe a dash of ISIS as well.

      • A2 says:

        My own thinking is Daesh planning (long term since they officially mentioned LV as a target). They needed an enabler, one who was compliant and coercible by fear of threats to family (old Ma in Florida) and his girlfriend’s family. Gambling snared them. That sort of debt has to be repaid.

        The triads were the middlemen. As all reports say this traitor had no military training, I doubt he was the shooter. He was the warehouse and storage depot. They were probably planning more attacks considering the arsenal located in his properties. Something went wrong. He was expendable.

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      • JohnJJihadi says:

        The guy is a millionaire.

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    • A2 I also believe this was about gambling debts. Mob in Nevada don’t play. (Ask Harry Reid) I don’t believe the massacre was his idea but that he was blackmailed or coerced. I find it impossible to believe this guy acted alone. But…the piece I’m trying to figure out…who chose the target? This stinks like a collaborative effort involving Soros, organized crime, and maybe a dash of ISIS as well.

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    • Smarty says:

      This woman WAS married to Geary Danley. Leftwing activist. Why is this not being reported or discussed?

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  2. winky says:

    My friend called me from Washington……she thinks the whole thing stinks!!

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  3. Meri says:

    Start at 2:38 an listen. Around 2:40, 2:41 a second gun starts firing a lot closer. Then stops, and you still hear the farther gunman firing still.

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  4. Lucille says:

    Las Vegas Massacre: What They’re NOT Telling You
    Paul Joseph Watson

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    • Esperanza says:

      Police routinely find rocket launchers in Paris and Marseille when they do raids on criminals drug dealers and terrorists, but I repeat myself. Should we make those illegal? /Snark Oh, wait, those came from Libya, the place Hillary wrecked.

      They refuse to police borders, but the weapons will magically stay on the other side?

      They should start, have their goons unarmed, send away their bodyguards. Remember we peasants have NO security. Your friends, libéral judges, decided the police didn’t have to come and protect us.

      On another ISIS note, a scary development in the posh 16th centre of Paris, a guy woke up in the middle of the night to find gas tanks open, covered in petrol, with a mobile phone detonator outside his apartment building. (let’s ban butane and petrol, wait the mayor Hidalgo has already banned petrol). The démineurs were able to defuse just in time. Apparently a person in the building has the same name as an anti Islamic extremist activist.

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  5. LULU says:

    In the movie “The Graduate”, the catch phrase was “Plastics”. Tonight I’m thinking Tinfoil”….

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  6. tgmccoy says:

    Like McVay and Nichols- Moro women there too..
    This is not going away,,

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  7. Right Mover says:

    OK, I just saw the interview with the suspect’s brother. With all his cheerful looking blinking, head twitches and voice undulations, he looks like a summer stock acting reject. Sorry. Something about that guy seems, uh, not very credible or convincing.

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  8. winky says:

    The stupid’s at Fox are saying that the had a huge financial loss several weeks ago and that might have led him to shoot…..HAVE YOU HEARD MORE STUPID SHIT THAN THAT/

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  9. winky says:

    Here is a great article to disprove lone shooter

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      • incisor says:

        That article is total BS. No one actually knows the timing and if he was using a standard AR15 modified for full auto then it is very possible to kill and wound the number killed and wounded with just that one weapon. You don’t have to actually hit a person with a 5.56x.45 round to kill or wound them and the ricochets could have done major damage as well. This ammo travels at approx. 3000 fps and will penetrate 1/4″ steel plate from 200 yds. One bullet can kill and/or wound multiple targets. Add the ricochets and in a crowd of people tightly packed together, the number of people killed and wounded does not mean there is automatically a second shooter.
        Yes the weapon will get very hot however, the barrel of AR15s are designed to withstand full automatic fire for substantial durations without damaging the barrel.

        http://info.stagarms.com/blog/bid/394557/How-to-Prevent-Your-AR-15-Rifle-from-Overheating

        Bottom line: Sadly, the shooter picked the right weapon for the job. That’s not to say that there weren’t multiple shooter, just that one shooter could have easily accomplished what this shooter apparently did with just one AR15, and this guy apparently had several of them in the room with him.

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        • maiingankwe says:

          Incisior,
          Did you watch the video link they had provided at the bottom? If this is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t, wouldn’t there be have been another window that had been broken to shoot through? I didn’t see that on any of the pictures that came out today. Have you?

          Please know I am not declaring it’s not true, I don’t have all of the facts to do that.

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        • POP says:

          So many myths around firearms it’s hard to keep up…
          “You don’t have to actually hit a person with a 5.56x.45 round to kill or wound them.”
          Rubbish.
          You might like to instead think about the 100 shot burst not possible from anything but very high capacity military drum mags.

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          • USMCLt says:

            Drum mags went out with the Thompson. “Belt fed” is likely what you meant. And the belts are normally contained in an ammo can.

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          • steveday72 says:

            PQP – Western military doesn’t use drum magazines because they are prone to misfeeds and jamming issues. They use belt-fed weapons like the M249 SAW.

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        • scott467 says:

          “Yes the weapon will get very hot however, the barrel of AR15s are designed to withstand full automatic fire for substantial durations without damaging the barrel.

          http://info.stagarms.com/blog/bid/394557/How-to-Prevent-Your-AR-15-Rifle-from-Overheating

          Bottom line: Sadly, the shooter picked the right weapon for the job.”

          ______________________

          Have they released any information on the rifle(s) that were used or the ammunition?

          The quality of AR15s is all over the place. Many are cheaply built to a rock-bottom price point, then you have standard baseline Colts, then lots of high priced specialty makes, and custom AR15s modified by people who specialize in that sort of thing. IIRC, the shooters in several mass-shootings involving AR15s were hampered by jammed rifles.

          I am also curious what kind (brand and configuration, e.g., FMJ, hollow point, etc.) of ammunition was used. This guy was wealthy, so he could easily afford quality firearms and high quality ammo, but did he?

          Also, the tapes sound like full-auto gunfire. Full auto ‘machine guns’ have not been available since 1986, and the prices of those that were already in private hands has gone up and up and up ever since.

          If you want a pre-ban 1986 or earlier full auto M16, it will require government approval ($200 tax stamp, could take months to obtain). It looks like the starting price is $18,000 and it has a bid, but the reserve has not been met:
          http://www.gunbroker.com/item/703937354

          It’s always possible that the shooter bought a full-auto military weapon that was smuggled into the country (sort of like Holder and Obama smuggled full-auto military weapons OUT of the country, i.e., Fast & Furious).

          Or it could have been a semi-auto AR15 with one of the several different available add-ons that simulate full-auto on semi-automatic rifles, like a bump-fire stock:

          Or the recently banned AutoGlove:
          https://gizmodo.com/this-trigger-happy-glove-lets-you-simulate-machine-gun-1797434487

          And we will probably never find out the answers to ANY of those questions — because government.

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        • steveday72 says:

          Incisor – AR15 barrels are not designed to withstand sustained fully-automatic firing.

          M4 barrels are made from the same steel as M249 barrels, they are cold hammer forged and have a thick chrome lining which can negatively affect accuracy, but stands up better to the heat generated by full-auto firing.

          There is no one “standard” barrel for an AR15. Barrel steels and surface treatments vary wildly, as do the barrel profiles. All of those have an effect on the accuracy of the barrel when cold vs how quickly it heats up and loses accuracy.

          Slim barrel profiles are lightweight, but the point of impact shifts after just a few quick shots (as little as 5 rounds). Heavy profile barrels stand up to full-auto firing, but take longer to cool down between bursts.

          The M16/M4 is a closed bolt design . This means there is a round is chambered while waiting to be fired… a hot enough chamber can cause a round to “cook-off”, resulting in an unintentional discharge. Machine-guns are designed for full-auto firing – the bolt stays back, allowing heat to dissipate until the trigger is pulled. Only when the trigger is pulled does an open-bolt MG chamber a round and strike the firing pin.

          Quite simply, the M16 and M4 are not designed for sustained full-auto firing as they are not “machine guns”.

          It now appears that Paddock used a bump-fire stock like the “Slide-Fire” on at least one of the rifles. Bump-firing requires that you hold the gun losely and allow it to slide backwards & forwards as you keep your trigger finger rigidly held in a fixed spot. The rifle is effectively slapping against your finger. You cannot aim while bump-firing, as aiming requires you to hold the firearm in a solid grip. Bump-firing is wildly innacurate and can only hit a target at close range.

          If Paddock really was bump-firing then I do not believe the 59 death toll (plus hundreds of injured) are solely from the bullets he fired – not at that distance. I would believe 9, but not 59.

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  10. tuskyou says:

    Forgive me if this posts twice
    https://m.facebook.com/events/866451513529506/?ti=icl
    I don’t do Facebook–is this legit or something made up? Thanks.

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  11. blognificentbee says:

    Wow, one hour prior to shooting, crowd singing God Bless America. NO WAY shooter is Trump supporter. Definitely anti- American progressive, ISIS, Anitra, whatever – America hater.

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    • jahealy says:

      The video of everyone singing God Bless America, holding their phones up like candles, is very moving in light of what happened a short time later.

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    • maiingankwe says:

      In the press briefing I described below I forgot to mention that one of the so called journalists, tried to blame the singer for not telling the audience to take cover and instead ran away in cowardice. He didn’t come out and call him a coward, but he did lay blame and had asked if less people would’ve been killed if he would’ve told the audience to take shelter.

      My question to this idiot, now where could all 22,000 of them take cover in the open arena? Thankfully, the sheriff told the moron that it is human instinct to flee when they are being shot at. Unfortunately, he did say something along the lines that the investigation would look into him. However, I think he was also saying the investigation will look into everything. One would hope anyways. To blame this singer is beyond preposterous. One could also say, if you see him run, shouldn’t you do the same?

      Sorry for my rant. I just can’t stand these idiots, and to think they have an actual job to spew all of this bs really burns my britches.

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  12. FrenchNail says:

    you mean to tell me that a 64 year old had the vision to sniper shoot for more than a hour straight? NO Way. Even with lasik and other procedures, after 50 your vision is not reliable specially at night. The story is coming way to fast to be trusted. It smells and smells bad.

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  13. rodney says:

    Some quick math, if the center in front of the stage is the target and the 32nd floor is 346 feet, that would make the range about 1250 feet (over 400 yards). Hitting a particular individual (consistantly) would need a skilled shooter (which apparently this guy wasn’t) but when you pack 20K people into a confined space, it’s tough to miss until they scatter.

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  14. waltherppk says:

    23 guns ….1 shooter found dead at scene……really????? …..oh sure…. okay

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  15. maiingankwe says:

    I just watched a press briefing and would like to share some of the information I have learned.

    The new 1-800 number for the Family Resource Center is:
    1-800-536-9488
    The last one had to be taken down due to technical difficulties.

    If you are in Las Vegas or close by, please go to the Family Resource Center rather than tying up the phone lines.

    The MGM is offering free rooms at the Belagio for families and is working with SouthWest Airlines for travel.

    The Red Cross has set up their headquarters at Circus Circus.

    They do not need any more blood donations. If you want to donate, please donate water, not food and there is now a Go Fund Me Page for the families.

    There were 23 firearms found in his hotel room and 19 within his home. There were also bomb making materials found in his vehicle that was parked at the hotel parking lot/ramp.

    At this media circus there were a couple of politicians. One asked not to put politics in this and to concentrate on helping the families and so forth. Politics can come afterwards she said.

    The lieutenant Gov thanked all of the first responders and police and said they will continue thanking them for everything they have done.

    The other politician of District One, which this had occurred stressed the the compassion and kindness of others throughout all of this.

    All of them stresssed coming together as Americans and how much everyone had showed such heroism throughout.

    Okay, that’s all I have for now. I just want to say I was relieved that they didn’t throw blame or politics into this and the sheriff stressed that he wasn’t going to put out information they were not a 100% sure of. They promised everything will come out, but they need to be sure first. They don’t want to have to backtrack and correct mistakes.

    One could see these people were really tired from their long day. This day is really painful for some of them as well, so for now I am going to refrain from any accusations. I know there are things not adding up, I’ve been watching closely too. However, we do not have all of the pieces yet. I don’t think we ever will have all of the pieces, but throughout the day we are getting more and more information. We just have to go through everything with a fine tooth comb, and I would say the Treepers here are some of the very best at that. It is also hard when there is so much pain and loss involved.

    Hold strong good Treepers and be well,
    Ma’iingankwe

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  16. winky says:

    Rick wells has an interesting take on the shooting. Maybe it was Antifa…….good idea…….let’s blame Antifa.

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  17. Minnie says:

    Apologies if this has already been asked (over 860 posts on this thread, so far).

    Shots were fired from 2 separate areas of the suite, yes?

    How did the murdering scum manage to run from one window to the other all while shots continued to rain down on the crowd?

    For that matter, no one in the hotel noticed glass breaking prior to or during his rampage?

    It’s all despicably horrible and makes no sense, none of it!

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  18. mazziflol says:

    Has anyone put anything into this? Im thinking its all ‘perspective’…

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  19. tazz2293 says:

    While I have speculated today I am of a mind right now that I will wait for Sundance and Wictor to parse this whole thing out.

    Too much information, too fast, with out knowing what is true or what is not true.

    Many facts are known and many half truths and untruths are known.

    What we have seen is how the left views normal Americans. Many of us already know the left hates us and wants us dead or enslaved. Not a shocking development to me or others.

    Pray for the victims and their families.

    In this day and age it is quite telling that we do not trust the government or any government entity to tell us the truth. We must wait for those very talented folks like Sundance, Wictor and others to piece this whole thing together and get the truth out.

    God Bless you guys. It has been a long, long day.

    What will tomorrow bring? I wonder.

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  20. Remember the Orlando nightclub shooting, how weird the timeline was. Shooting started around midnight and they didn’t get the Orlando shooter til like 4 am. I’m most likely off on the exact time frame but the idea is that there was a strange timeline. I see it here too.

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  21. Texian says:

    According to the foreign “tweets”, conservative white people are the “Crusaders” – i.e. the enemy. Which so happens to also be the “enemy” of Antifa, democrats, uniparty, BLM and NFL kneelers.

    Now do you see the ideological Culture War? These factions all want to exterminate white American conservatives..

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  22. BillRiser says:

    If this is what he has on his neck. He is part of the largest, worst gang in California. He is an accountant and spent time in California. His dad was a criminal. He has what seems like unlimited money.

    So is he an accountant/money man for the SUR 13 Mob? Going after REVENGE

    US police have scored a major success in dismantling one of the most violent gangs in California – the Sureños gang.

    More than 600 suspects have been arrested by the Homeland Security Department’s largest crackdown on street gangs, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials in the US said on Thursday.

    The arrests were made as part of a month-long crackdown on street gangs in almost 200 cities across the country.

    Authorities targeted 175 organised gangs, including the notorious Sureños gang, known as the ‘Sur 13’

    The gang, which is said to be recruiting new blood at its fastest rate ever, specialises in murder, extortion and drug trafficking – leaving a trail of bloodshed across California in its wake.

    It has risen from a California-based operation to having tentacles stretching the length and breadth of America.

    Heavily tatooed, inherently racist and armed to the teeth, Sureños, which in Spanish means ‘south’, consists almost exlcusively of Hispanic Americans and has fought a deadly long-running street war against a long list of rivals: Norteños, Nuestra Familia, Fresno Bulldogs, Bloods, Latin Kings, Puro Tango Blast, Los Zetas, and the Asian Boyz.
    Sureños
    A Sureños tag marks the gang’s territory in CaliforniaWikipedia

    Bloody history

    The Sureños emerged in 1968 in the south of California, comprising of factions of Hispanic gangs that pay tribute to the Mexican mafia.

    The name Sureños was not used until 1970 after tensions with rivals the Norteño gang reached boiling point with a series of mass brawls in and out of prisons.

    From then on Hispanic gangsters aligned themselves with either the Sureños or Norteño gangs, cementing a classic ‘north vs south’ conflict.

    Over the years, however, the gang has become more multi-cultural and accepts members from other ethnic backgrounds and even though the gang operates under the broad Sureños name, there are rivalries within the gang that have resulted in deaths.

    There are now a reported 30,000 gangsters fighting for supremacy alongside the Sureños and members who have tried to leave the criminal life have told how they have been threatened with death if they turn their backs on street gangs.

    Appearance

    Surenos members represent themselves with a number of phrases and symbols. Sur 13 “Sureno Trece” and “Los Surenos”. Additional identifications include the color blue, the numerical number 13, representing the alphabet letter M, standing for the Mexican Mafia, and XIII.
    Anthony Garcia
    Gang member Anthony Garcia had a tattoo that told the story of a murder he committedAP

    Common tattoos include Sur, XIII, X3, 13, Sur13, uno tres, trece and three dots. Fully fledged members of the gang also have ink that that proves or validates their membership. The word Sureño or Sureña, for female members, must be earned.

    The California branch identify themselves with the color blue and greyy and wear sports clothing from teams such as the Los Angeles Dodgers, Los Angeles Clippers, Los Angeles Kings, Los Angeles Lakers, San Diego Padres, San Diego Chargers.

    Violent crimes

    Gang members have been convicted of murder, robbery, organizing prostitution rings and kidnapping. In some of the most extreme cases members have killed their own family to make headway with gang leaders.

    Violence not only pours onto US streets, but once members are jailed, rivalries with fellow inmates continues behind bars and has lead to officers being attacked and large-scale rioting.

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    • tazz2293 says:

      Not what he had on his neck. I magnified the supposed 13 and the one is deformed. The 3 makes the image look like a deformed B. It is all shadows, whiskers and wrinkles.

      Remember the Face on Mars? The brain will always try to make something known out of what it cannot readily identify. It is how the brain is programmed.

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    • Greenmirror says:

      Build a wall.

      Next Police briefing ask about the tattoos.

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  23. azpossum says:

    New to the group – love reading the honest commentary!

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  24. keebler AC ovfefe says:

    When the “brother” was asked more details about his rampaging brother, he hedged twice or three times unable to confabulate and suggested the interviewer check his news sources later for the answers. Conclusion: Not a brother. Not sure if the criminal father is even related. Are their last names even Paddock at this point?

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  25. kea25252014 says:

    Anyone want to talk about the curtains that one can see in the photo? Why didn’t he pull those down? (Because it looks like two open windows created a draft)

    Why is this not seen on video?

    Could one shoot out a hotel window? No really I want to know. Or were they busted out afterwords to make it look like that was the place?

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    • POP says:

      Large hotels have windows that are double glazed and cannot open (more than slightly at most, not enough to shoot through). Whatever room was used had to have the window glass broken. No problem shooting to break the window(s).

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      • kea25252014 says:

        Hmmmm. Which makes me wonder if you can slightly open the window with the right tools or time or set up can you open it a little more and maybe reclose it to make it look like it was never fully open?

        So you think one can shoot out the windows no prob there? No specialized glass?

        I almost want to call it a red herring…

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      • LULU says:

        Photo taken afterward showed a hammer on the floor in his hotel suite.

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  26. POP says:

    The hotel should have 24hour corridor ctv of all movements into and out of his room and all others.
    A second perp should be quickly revealed.

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  27. Linda says:

    At 12:01….LV police say one suspect is down. Who was THAT?????

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  28. flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner says:

    Lots of comments made about thousands of rounds of ammo, couldn’t stage without notice, etc.

    2,000 (not an insane amount, for a gun guy, of which his brother was ignorant) rounds of 5.56 mm, loose packed, could fit in two large shoe boxes. 180 rounds in loaded mags could fit without issue in a large purse or small backpack.

    Other comments made about distance to accurately hit that many people are also misplaced. It would take no great skill to hit a large crowd at an effective distance of 300-400 yards. Typical “accurate” groups are in the range of 3-4 inches. 5.56 mm combat effective range is 600+ meters, IIRC. Murderer needs only land them in a crowded football field to be lethal.

    Point is that the reported scenario is completely plausible, without extraordinary skill, or any conspiracy. It took planning, which goes to motive, which also remains to be shown by credible evidence.

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    • POP says:

      Correct.

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    • steveday72 says:

      But then add bump-firing to the mix, which is what they now say he did. This meant that he was unable to even keep a fixed aim at the crowd which was 450yds away … while the rifle’s receiver was slapping backwards&forwards at 900rpm. Add to that the obvious muzzle-climb and the whole idea gets ridiculous.

      Unlike YouTube videos of people using Slide-Fire stocks at under 30yds – He was shooting at night, couldn’t see where the shots were going (because of distance and low-light) and he wasn’t even using tracer rounds to walk the POI onto target.

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  29. POP says:

    “Typical “accurate” groups are in the range of 3-4 inches. 5.56 mm combat effective range is 600+ meters”

    I missed this.
    No, not a chance.
    A superbly accurate AR15 type by a high quality niche manufacturer will group MOA.
    1″ @ 100yards. Any AR that groups 6 ” @ 650 yards belongs to god, not anyone you know.

    A standard military AR type / M4 rifle that groups 4″ @ 100 yards is exceptional.

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  30. rodney says:

    I waiting for the breathless release from the “media” that some/all of the ammunition was made in russia. Russian ammunition is very common on the sporting market. Economy quality at an economy price. I’m hoping to see an accurate (and tracable) timeline…….1st shot, last shot, LE entry. I know metroPD has bodycams, surely the entry team would have multiple videos. But then, what they have and what we see may not be related.

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  31. GREENMIRROR says:

    Curious how long he owned his houses & planes? What might the showing real estate agents know about him and his needs.

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  32. U.S.A. Citizen says:

    The only reason the psycho Stephen Paddock killed all those people at the Las Vegas country music concert is because he is another evil and jealous Democrat that wanted to hurt the Republican party because President Trump beat evil, crooked, and corrupt Democrat Hillary Clinton at the Presidential election and these psycho, evil, jealous Democrats can’t handle it. The Democrats feel they should be the only party in power. Thank God for President Donald J. Trump because another psycho Democrat, Hillary Clinton would have become President. I think God had a hand in this election. Thank you, God.

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