Panda Finds Lion Tracks in Shrinking Bamboo Forest…

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  1. Lucille says:

    Oh, my, having a genius as President is so refreshing!

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  2. treehouseron says:

    I wonder if China KNOWS President Trump is this good… or if they still think he’s just an imbecile like the leftists do?

    Imagine the scenario after they get done talking, Xi says “No, he still doesn’t understand. I tried to explain it to him, but he kept talking about how we both want to get rid of the Nukes. What? I did! I did bring up what Vlad said but he ignored me!”

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    • jrapdx says:

      Interesting question. In my head I imagine there’s an argument about it among the Chinese leadership. One faction says, “Trump is an idiot, he’ll cave like all the others did”. A smaller group is thinking, “Trump is on to our shtick, if we’re not careful we’re gonna get hurt bigly”. Xi asks around and gets these conflicting opinions. He mutters to himself “the guys are confused, guess I’m on my own. Gotta keep the talks going, maybe I’ll figure some way out of this fix…”

      Or something like that.

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      • USA loves Melania says:

        I’ll bet you’re right about there being two lines of thinking among the Chicom leadership but I’ll also bet that the side that recognizes our President’s genius is afraid to speak up.

        I remember a story about the Soviet Politburo applauding Stalin for HOURS without stopping. Clapping until some of them collapsed. Every single man was afraid to be the first one to stop clapping. People got shot or sent to Siberia for that sort of thing. That’s the way these commies are – afraid to go against the consensus.

        Our President, on the other hand, has made sure to put people on his team who are not “yes men” and don’t necessarily agree with him on everything. It drives the purists nuts (“Oh noes! Trump’s caving to [insert villian of the week here]!) But it’s smart strategy to hear from different sides.

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      • Joshua2415 says:

        Interestingly, you can substitute the words “republican” in for “chinese”, and “Paul Ryan” for “Xi” and your comment is equally accurate.
        Hmmm

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    • Daniel says:

      Some know, some refuse to accept this fact is relevant. Just as we have problems with our own leftists and their ideological filter, so too do the “Old Guard” communist Chinese leadership. I’m convinced they are not “stupid” people. At the same time, specific forms of ideology causes certain forms of blindness in the face of certain problems. “The faithful” sometimes believe they can work miracles simply because they are superior, or because they are “the good guys” or because it is their right… sort of reminds me of a certain candidate who believed they would be elected because it was their turn to be president.

      That short statement from the white house is simply repetition of prior public statements. I consider it worthless and meaningless because it’s coming from China. So what is a president to do with people like that?

      Some people say “you cannot trust the Chinese.” Long ago, I would have fully agreed with that. But lately, I have managed to redefine the meaning of “trust.” It now means that I can expect specific things as I know and understand them. So while on a strictly linguistic level, it’s true to say “you cannot trust the Chinese” I have to say their use of language is far less than direct. They speak words sometimes directly, but they are almost never meant directly.

      So how does one make any sense of it? I can’t really answer that — I’ve not been associated with Chinese dealings for quite a while. But as a general rule, you can trust action and behavior and my altered meaning of trust says this:

      “I trust the Chinese to be precisely who they are.” I don’t characterize it as “evil” or “immoral” because we shouldn’t expect to change these ancient people or expect them to shift to our way of thinking. So instead think of them as complex robots and expect them to respond and act in certain ways based on their programming. We can’t read their source code but we can test their behavior to guess the algorithms upon which their programming is based.

      Presently, China is stuck in a loop. And they are starting to realize they are in a loop. They haven’t yet been able to determine how to exit that loop in a favorable way. And it will likely be up to the president to offer them the way to exit that loop. My only hope is that he doesn’t give in on trade. I’d rather see war with N.Korea.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        Daniel, that next to last paragraph is an amazing piece of writing and thought. Wow. Thank you. That made my day.

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      • DoggyDaddy says:

        Good post, Daniel. China has at least 4,000 years of history so I would say that within that time period you can find a “source code” (as you call it) in China. Over 2,500 years ago, Confucius (not the fortune cookie one, but the real philosopher) and his protege Mencius identified the established basic tenets of Chinese civilization (tenets remarkably similar to Judeo-Christian concepts). These tenets are very strong in China and have survived the test of time and outside influences. As a generalization over millennia, China has been conquered by non-Chinese groups (e.g., Mongols, Manchus). Yet over time, the conquerors eventually became the conquered as the sheer might of the comprehensive nature of the Chinese civilization overcame the outsiders. Communism is just the latest conqueror which will succumb to the power of the civilization — it’s inevitable; and over the last several decades we already have seen Chinese leaders backing away from the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist dogma.

        Your analysis of their use of language is spot on. It is extremely difficult for non-Mandarin fluent analysts to understand the nuances of the official statements offered by Beijing. Sundance often refers to The Global Times as the bearer of the official word. That is incorrect. Yes, GT is a subsidiary of The People’s Daily, but The People’s Daily in Chinese ( http://www.people.cn/ ) is indisputably THE official word. After more than 40 years of dissecting the language of the Chinese leadership, I can’t claim to understand completely the nuances myself. We’ve lost the Old China Hands (like John Service, Ted White [yes, the author of the Making of the President series of books], and Edgar Snow) who were great at making sense of much of this; and I find wanting those who have been identified today as being China experts. So I think you are doing very well when you say, “I trust the Chinese to be precisely who they are.”

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      • Jedi9 says:

        I keep trying to post a comment and it will not allow me. Very strange!

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  3. wheatietoo says:

    Hah! Great analogy, Sundance.

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  4. fleporeblog says:

    What our President is about to accomplish with NK will be studied for the next 100+ years.

    This proves to me that China has accepted their faith! Our President talked with President Xi again today. I have a funny feeling that he reiterated to Xi that if this nonsense with NK doesn’t end, he will destroy them economically through sanctions on their banks and restricting trade with the US. Xi realizes that for President Modi (from India) to walkaway from BRICS the other day, he is inching closer and closer to finalizing a MAJOR trade deal with the US.

    Xi probably once again asked if our President will be coming in November/December for the visit. Our President responded by saying only if the situation NK is resolved. We will see China take the necessary steps to do what our Lion has asked of them.

    President Trump will be going into the history books as the man that ended the 64 year old Korean War. China will also agree to hundreds of billions of dollars of Coal and LNG to offset the trade discrepancy. It will be a win-win for both countries since China needs to purchase energy for their 1.7 billion people.

    Better to buy from America and allow our Lion to brag about our ENERGY DOMINANCE!

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    • wheatietoo says:

      Heheh.
      Perhaps you mean…”that China has accepted their fate“?
      Instead of “faith”?

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      • jrapdx says:

        We have faith they will accept their fate and tap dance quickly to cover their tracks. All about “saving face” isn’t it?

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        • wheatietoo says:

          Well yeah…but China uses that “saving face” thing as a tool to force Westerners to do what they want.

          Our President sees this.
          And he is letting them know that he sees this…by turning it around and using it against them.

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          • jrapdx says:

            We have our pride, we’re not going to get kicked around so easily any longer. And I think that’s a good thing, not nearly enough “face-saving” on our part in the past. I surmise that’s what Trump has been talking about, that we aren’t going to continue to be the stupid people here on out.

            Personally, I like that notion a lot.

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    • lokiscout says:

      flep, gotta remember I am an old engineer and always looking for the “worst case scenario” and covered my butt a good many times over a 50 year career by having a “plan B” in my pocket just because, I am not fully familiar with the organization or chain of command of the modern Chinese Government. In the old days Chairman Mao ruled everything but they have gone through a few iterations over the past decades. My itch is are we sure “President Xi” is the ultimate power or is it possible there is a General somewhere who commands the Military and therefore NK weaponry? Are we talking to the Chinese CIC or the political head who has limited control. Sure hope our NSC and CIA has it well scoped out.

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      • fleporeblog says:

        Great questions! SD has always said that there is a power struggle between Xi and the hardliners that are atop the communist region. I believe Xi is more towards the center in his beliefs. Especially when it comes to money. The hardliners are not. If what I am predicting happens, Xi would get his way.

        I think the CIA took a big hit in China.

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    • James says:

      Flepor, a few points.
      I don’t think a visit by POTUS to China in Nov/Dec will happen if it is contingent on the situation in NK ending by then. I think it extremely unlikely there will be a resolution by then.
      As far as destroying China economically – it sounds good, but would be monumentally difficult to do.
      Re. going down in the history books for ending the 64 year Korean war. How is he going to end the Korean war – the stalemate between NK and SK?

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      • fleporeblog says:

        James if the six party talks begin by the end of the month, there is a good possibility of them concluding by December.

        I think our President has been so sickened with SK that if NK agrees through China to have all nukes destroyed, our President will get us out of SK and could get an agreement to end the war.

        India is going to be a major player if our President goes after China. They have a paper Economy.

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  5. PreNanny says:

    Is there going to be a thread for Tax Cut speech in ND?
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/live

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  6. stempy says:

    I already posted the folowing comment in another thread but this post was not up yet and it fits much better here, so reposting.

    Related to the CTH theory that Trump’s approach to NK is to pressure China to control their puppet, here is some news that I haven’t seen reported elsewhere:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-05/chinese-scientists-warn-north-koreas-nuke-test-site-risk-imploding-releasing-many-ba

    This sounds like the Chinese are floating the idea that they will need to intervene in NK in order to protect themselves from the effects of NK’s nuclear testing program. Undoubtedly the ChiComs are following multiple paths but this would be one way for them to shut down NK’s nuclear testing without losing face.

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    • mimbler says:

      I had the same thought when I read a similar article yesterday. Could well be China’s face saving exit to the NK mess.

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    • jrapdx says:

      Here’s a related thought I’ve had.

      Realistically, once in possession of “nuclear devices” what’s to prevent NK from using them to threaten China if China doesn’t do stuff that NK wants. Sure China could retaliate, but at great potential cost. IOW China might have a legitimate interest in removing nuclear devices from NK along with saving face at the same time.

      Might call it a two-fer move by the Chinese against NK.

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      • Garrison Hall says:

        I’ve been thinking the same thing. ‘Lil Kim is a lot like the local thug who wants protection money from the local merchants. It looks to me like his main play will be to start making “offers you can’t refuse” to his neighbors.

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      • MIreilleG says:

        I don’t think so. China does not work like that. Dissent is not tolerated. They own him, they hold the strings, they pull he jumps. He knows that the day he stops playing he is replaced.

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      • WSB says:

        Lil Kim might get Arkancided.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        The fact that China has allowed their crazy, terroristic neighbor to arm itself with weapons that could be used to blackmail China, is conclusive proof that they are fully on China’s leash.

        But you are still right. Now that he can blow up most Chinese cities, there is nothing to stop Kim from blowing China up in a suicidal temper tantrum. Just like there will be nothing to stop him from blowing us up, once he succeeds with his ICBM program.

        Very stupid of China to allow that risk, even to use it against us.

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    • daughnworks247 says:

      Yes, been screaming about this.
      China will be the great savior of “Climate Change”, save the moutain and forrests, blah, blah, blah.

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  7. neilmdunn says:

    I have not read any other site that has provided any analysis remotely approaching the depth and sophistication of CTH explaining the USA-China-North Korea triad of interactions. Color me fortunate.

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  8. bluegirl says:

    Panda Finds Lion Tracks In Shrinking Bamboo Forrest…………..
    LOL……..Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

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  9. beaujest says:

    Turtle finds Lion tracks in Kentucky , Rino finds tracks in his Wisconsin district !

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  10. wheatietoo says:

    Heck of a Week so far, isn’t it?

    Our President pushes forward…even with all the forces of evil clinging to his ankles.
    He drags them along in his wake.

    He took away their Human Shields, DACA, by saying:
    “Dreamers? I love the Dreamers. You guys should do something for those Dreamers.”
    Heheh.

    He’s got his team of Wolverines working on making NAFTA into something that actually benefits our people…or they tear it up and walk away.

    He’s let China know that their Nork movie has gotten tiresome and ridiculous.
    We are no longer interested in watching it play over and over again.

    He is pushing his Tax Reform right now in North Dakota…presenting it as a Rescue for the Middle Class, to bring back Jobs.
    How can the Dems & GOPe be against that.
    Hah.

    All this…and it’s only Wednesday.
    Thank you, Mr. President!

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  11. kenmar1965 says:

    If NK pulls another stunt this weekend, it will be interesting to see if we respond militarily (against NK) or economically (against China.)

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    • Christopher Johnson says:

      Always bet on the economics with Trump… its more effective and less costly in both lives and dollars.

      Trump is the Anti-Warmonger. He keeps force on the table because any sane leader has to, but it is ALWAYS a last resort.

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      • jbrickley says:

        Only way war happens is if NK launches an actual attack. If they try it, they will get stomped into oblivion even without nukes being used. There is plenty of ordinance of a non-nuclear classification that can be used to defeat the DPRK. The only way nuclear would be used is if the DPRK launch a nuclear attack. If they launch a long range missile against US or ally targets it will be shot down. If it’s a nuke and we miss, the DPRK will cease to exist about 20 minutes later. Heck, they might cease to exist before we even know it was a nuke especially if we shot it down. We can only hope they are not that stupid.

        We have got to have two or more Ohio class submarines in range nearby. Each carry 14 Trident missiles and each of those has up to 8 warheads with re-entry vehicles and each of those are 475kt H-Bombs. Enough to wipe out most countries. Not to mention the forces in Guam who can drop more tactile nukes, including nuclear bunker busters, plus nuclear cruise missiles and even gravity nukes dropped from a small fighter. Then the full on ICBM’s from California which have run 2-3 tests recently to show we can shoot them down and that they are launch ready as well.

        I would not be surprised if our forces have standing orders to prepare to retaliate as soon as they get the Go order from POTUS. That means they will be tracking any DPRK missiles plotting trajectories, etc. Preparing to shoot them down, locked on even. There are Pentagon folks whose job it is to plan for such scenarios that hopefully never happen. You can bet they have been updating their plans and its a very target rich environment.

        Absolutely no one wants war but if they start something, Trump and Mattis will finish it.

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  12. lfhbrave says:

    A major Chinese communist party congress will take place next month and there is a serious internal power struggle going on in China. China may not be willing to make any major move against N. Korea before that time.

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  13. sundance says:

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  14. Bob Thoms says:

    ROTFL……….your humor slays me Sundance; love it immensely……

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  15. Lucille says:

    For those not familiar with Michael Yon, he was an independent embedded war correspondent and photojournalist in Iraq. He continues his journalism mostly on Facebook. I haven’t followed him for a while since I don’t FB, but received this email today.

    “Important comments on North Korea from a highly connected friend” by Michael Yon

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      Great. This means nobody knows what Trump will do, or how he will change the equations. They don’t even see the ways WE HERE see he is changing the equations. Those are (our)known (their)unknowns. Only Time Travel Trump has the unknown unknowns.

      Popcorn. Gonna be good.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      fyi: Michael Yon is a person that kinda sorta should be taken with a grain of salt.
      He’s got an interesting history insofar as our SF are concerned — to say the least.

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      • Lucille says:

        Rather cryptic response, Jenny. If you know some bit of info that would put Yon into a “grain of salt” category, by all means, spell it out.

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        • Jenny R. says:

          Here’s some evidence (read through the whole thread):
          http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35602

          The dude has had a history. and it’s usually involved saying things that he thinks the audience would like to hear. So while he may be right about some things, he can also be 100% wrong about everything to. And his reputation for encouraging fast and loose interpretation of OPSEC means that unless his “source” is a leaker or a fool (or both) then nobody involved in any sort of national security/military position is going to talk to him (read the thread).
          Take with grain of salt.
          For myself, I kinda consider him like that Cernovich fellow (they actually do have a lot of similarities personality-wise).

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            Interesting. Yeah, I can see the parallels.

            There has to be an enormous amount of disinformation right now. He would be the kind of guy many would be looking for to deliver it, too. I would expect many leaks right now of many versions of potential reality.

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          • Lucille says:

            Thanks for the link, Jenny. I take it you are military or retired same.

            From one of the posters, “As far as my comment of you being escorted off a compound, be very careful in what you ask for as my “source” would be considered A1.”

            Then “A1” should make the charges, not the poster, don’t you think? He could easily do so without identifying himself since the others don’t for public consumption either.

            Following Yon since he first began his embed, it was obvious to me even as a civilian he’s opinionated. I did not and do not, however, consider him a liar or confabulator. If someone has evidence he is such, then publish it with actual name, rank and serial number. Otherwise, it’s just meaningless innuendo.

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            • Jenny R. says:

              The guy who made the charges showed up later in that thread and repeated what he had said — and got into it with Yon. The guy making the accusation was pretty up front about it, started out very fair with Yon (until Yon started talking smack), and did not hide behind anybody.
              My family is indeed military and many have been attached to SF units on deployments. Reporters trying to break through OPSEC for a scoop has been the bane of their existence. Yon has been one of them — he started out quite popular (the thread even says so) and then progressed to not being allowed near SF units. And that thread (which is old) started back up again at the end of June ’17…which makes me wonder if Yon isn’t trying to get back into the game somehow.

              The fact that he posted pictures of soldiers badly wounded/dying BEFORE their families were contacted doesn’t put him in my “like” category.

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  16. Pam says:

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  17. tempo150101 says:

    Sorry guys, but fat boy has a point. We had supposedly come to terms with Khadafi and what did we do? We removed him. Our government cannot be trusted.

    Fat boy isn’t trying to start a war. What he is doing is showing everybody what’s going to happen if Uncle Sam tries to pull a Khadafi on him.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      Sorry – terrible analogy. Besides equating Trump with all these globo-nazi losers before him, you’re equating Fats Psycho with Khadafi. I would say that Kimbo is a lot more like Khadafi BEFORE Reagan put him on meds by bombing the h377 out of him. In fact, you may have just pointed out the solution here. Wink at China, do what is needed to get Fat Boy on meds, and the call it done.

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    • treehouseron says:

      The kink in your argument is, President Trump wouldn’t be thinking twice about fat boy if fat boy wasn’t showing his ass. All he had to do was keep to himself and he can keep torturing and murdering his people for as long as he wants. President Trump is the last one who’s going to go start a war nobody needs… but fat boy wants to keep testing his patience.

      How much longer before President Trump decides to pull the trigger and completely change the world’s manufacturing base? 6 months? 2 years? Kim is making it closer to the former.

      NOTHING would make U.S. manufacturing skyrocket quicker than cutting taxes and taxing China…

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  18. Plain Jane says:

    The panda/lion headline made my seltzer water fizzle up my nose. Didnt want to spray it out all over my ipad. LMAO.

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  19. DebbieUK says:

    The problem of North Korea has to be confronted. This has been going on for decades.Maybe Trump didn’t know this during his campaign but sees a chance using China to sort it out once and for all. I don’t believe there will be a shooting war or removal of Kim .It doesn’t work and Trump is no dummy. I don’t hear the SJWs jumping up and down about human rights violations in NK. Even UK has been censured by the UN for child poverty when there is no real poverty in UK.
    Interesting that Putin has now entered the fray and urging diplomacy. His own Human rights record isn’t so great either.

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    • Cozette says:

      President Trump started warning about NK having nukes back when Clinton was POTUS. He also said repeatedly during the campaign that the solution to NK lay with China not NK. Trump has been studying China for decades not only by reading everything he can but by listening to the many Chinese business people he’s come to know personally over the years.

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  20. Cozette says:

    President Trump started warning about NK having nukes back when Clinton was POTUS. He also said repeatedly during the campaign that the solution to NK lay with China not NK. Trump has been studying China for decades not only by reading everything he can but by listening to the many Chinese business people he’s come to know personally over the years.

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  21. Jedi9 says:

    The warnings signs have always been there, we just weren’t awake enough because we were in a self induced TV coma!

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