Mark Your Calendars: First Round of NAFTA Renegotiation August 16th – 20th…

If you alert your family not to schedule anything important on round-one NAFTA days, well, you might just be a trade and economics nerd.  LOL  Seriously, this is one of the biggest economic processes that falls almost exclusively outside of the reach of lobbyists.

And within this entire NAFTA trade construct there is little to zero downside to walking away. If Team Trump don’t get what they want from a completely reworked trilateral agreement, they can always just eliminate NAFTA and work on bilateral agreements with Mexico and Canada as individual trade partners. Team USA hold all the leverage.  

USTR is anticipating seven rounds of talks which will take place at three week intervals.

The first round is scheduled for August 16th through 20th in Washington DC.

Washington, D.C. United States Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer today announced arrangements for the first round of negotiations for the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

The first round of the negotiations between the United States, Canada and Mexico will take place in Washington, D.C. from August 16 – 20, 2017.

The negotiations immediately follows the 90-day consultation period with Congress and the public initiated on May 18, 2017. On that day, Ambassador Lighthizer notified Congress of President Trump’s intent to renegotiate NAFTA to get a better deal for America’s workers, farmers, businesses and manufacturers.

Ambassador Lighthizer also announced that John Melle, Assistant U.S. Trade Representative for the Western Hemisphere, will serve as Chief Negotiator for the NAFTA negotiations. In his role as Chief Negotiator, Melle will be responsible for the day-to-day negotiations at the staff level.

Since joining USTR in 1988, John Melle has held a number of positions covering Mexico, Canada, the Caribbean and Central America. As Assistant USTR for the Western Hemisphere, he is responsible for developing, coordinating and implementing the United States’ trade policy for the region.  (read more)

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96 Responses to Mark Your Calendars: First Round of NAFTA Renegotiation August 16th – 20th…

  1. wheatietoo says:

    What is best in Life?

    “To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women.”

    We’re gonna need moar popcorn.

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    • A2 says:

      Sorry Wheatie 😀 . Love you, but,
      I have to step on your comment. Nafta was negotiated at a time when it seemed to be a good idea due to geo-political situations. That time has past and Canada and Mexico have taken full advantage of the treaty and no US administration has seen fit to review it, until President Trump. Now that has changed, They are not our ‘enemies’ that ‘need to be crushed’.

      They are competitive trading partners and the books now need to be balanced. It will benefit all in the long run, and the US will no longer be subsidizing unfair trade practices.

      I have no idea about ‘the lamentations of the women’ I leave that to the SJW/Pussy hatted crowd.

      More popcorn needed? I will have a dry martini and look forward to the Wolverines righting the trade craft on behalf of the American worker.

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      • wheatietoo says:

        The ‘enemies’ are…the globalists, A2.
        That’s who came up with the idea of the NAFTAgreement.

        All that rhetoric about how we had to “help Mexico to become prosperous so they could buy our products”…was a lie.
        Did you fall for that?

        There were a lot of us who saw through it.
        There were a lot of us who didn’t see it as a ‘good idea’ at the time.

        That’s why Ross Perot kept warning about the “giant sucking sound” that would happen when our manufacturing and our jobs were sucked out of our country.
        We saw it the same way…and he was right!

        I don’t blame Mexico and Canada…I blame our dumbass leaders for selling us out to the globalists and getting us into this horrible Agreement.

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        • A2 says:

          The ‘globalists’ is of more recent origin. You are conflating. NAFTA was originally a Pres Reagan idea (1982) to create a free trade zone with Canada and Mexico. It was seen as a counterweight to the European Union at the time. When it was finally ratified, after years of negotiations that came into effect in 1994, Ross Perot made his cogent case against it. A head of the times and as we have seen correct.

          It is not a ‘horrible agreement’ due to some conspiracy, but a failed agreement due to the fact that economies have moved on and free riders should no longer benefit.

          Some background.
          https://www.thebalance.com/history-of-nafta-3306272

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          • A2 says:

            And I may add, to your snark, I personally did not ‘fall’ for anything. Thank you. And you have supported my comments, though you seem to take exception to anyone disagreeing with how you express your anger.
            Give it a rest.

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          • wheatietoo says:

            Um, no…I am not “conflating” anything.
            Globalist elitists have been around for a long time, it is the public awareness of them that is recent.

            NAFTA was not Reagan’s idea, he was in favor of bilateral agreements.
            Even the article that you linked mentions this.
            Reagan simply wanted a more fair marketplace and wanted to eliminate the high tariffs on US goods.

            It was George H.W. Bush who negotiated NAFTA…and it was pretty much his baby.
            Bush Sr. is an elitist who lied to us about the effects that NAFTA would have on our economy.

            I don’t know if he was just feckless and ignorant and actually believed his own rhetoric…or if he did it to us on purpose.
            But people tried to talk him out of it, and he insisted that it was ‘right for this country’.

            Ross Perot had been sounding the alarm on NAFTA for a couple of years before he ran as an Independent in 1992.
            The Agreement was still in progress then, and had not been finalized yet.

            Most people with a modicum of business sense could see that NAFTA would encourage manufacturers to relocate to Mexico or even Canada and enjoy the benefit of lower overhead and increased profits.

            And…”snark”?
            I made a simple little comment in jest…and you claimed that you ‘had to step on it’.

            You are the one who took it upon yourself to ‘educate’ me with a condescending tone as though I was in need of your vast knowledge.
            So I would suggest that you “give it a rest”.

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            • Wheatietoo, the.manufacturing plants relocating to Mexico & Canada preceded the negotiations & signing of NAFTA. The American auto plants in Mexico & Canada began operation in the 1980s, during President Reagan’s two terms. Whatever the policies were, NAFTA wasn’t in effect yet.

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            • NvMtnOldman says:

              Wheatie, you are right about the globalists. Look at the FDR and the CoC colluding back in the 1930s to form the NRA and the NIRA to control prices wages, production until the SCOTUS shut it down, They have been around for a long time. The MSM was involved also.

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          • As I recall, A2, the bulk of NAFTA negotiations occurred under President GHW Bush. Or have I got that wrong?

            I am of the opinion that President GHW Bush began & implemented many of the globalist trade policies that sent our nation’s manufacturing & jobs overseas.

            In the late 70s & 80s, we owned & operated a new car dealership. All of a sudden a lot of the vehicles we sold were now manufactured in Windsor, Ontario, Canada & Toluca, Mexico. Auto plants closed down in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, etc. Auto workers lost their jobs by the tens of thousands. The UAW is skeletal remains today.

            It’s my belief that NAFTA was the cause of the UAW’s demise & it was intentional. Instead of fixing the regulations & legislation that allowed the unions too much power, our government used NAFTA to defang them. And the American auto workers, their families, their communities & our nation be damned.

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          • Friar Bob says:

            A2, what do you think the League of Nations *was* if not a globalist scam to try to create a world-government?

            Globalism — in various forms, but it’s still globalism — has been around and working on subsuming the United States for WELL over 100 years. They may not have CALLED themselves globalists yet, but a stink bomb by any other name still smells just as bad.

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          • David says:

            No it was a horrible agreement and NAFTA was pushed by Bush +Clinton

            Trump was right when he opposed it back in the nineties.

            And yes there was an ulterior motive. For goodness sake President Vicente Fox is on video talking about NAFTA 2.0 aka North American Union.

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          • Ok, A2, I read your link. I think Kimberly Amadeo’s claim that NAFTA did not suck jobs out of this country isn’t true. Before NAFTA was signed, we lost some auto plants to Canada and Mexico…. afterward ….. American auto manufacturers relocated their facilities to Mexico and Canada on steroids!

            We’ve also lost millions and millions of jobs and many tens of thousands of manufacturing plants to overseas… if not from NAFTA, directly…. then certainly to STUPID ASS GLOBALIST POLICIES that promote the New World Order. These were first encouraged by President GHW Bush, as I recall!

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          • Texian says:

            [A blogger who sources an internet article that was written by a graduate of northeastern liberal colleges who wrote a book called “The Ultimate Obamacare Handbook”..].

            (As much as you want to help Wheatie, some are so far off you just gotta leave ’em on the side of the road and keep on driving..).

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        • Jeff says:

          BAZINGA !!! America has been GRINDING down since the implementation of the not federal and no reserve FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM .

          Only now do we call that “monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ” ! JFK warned us about in the 60’s …” GLOBALIST ” just part of the HUMAN FARMERS rebranding BS

          America conquered not with armies by day but by COVERT MEANS over a century of corruption and evil .

          Those leaders who delivered America to the FLEECING were more complicit than dumb-ass .

          With no one left to purchase the DEBT instruments the FED relies on to print ( digitize ) money out of thin air the collapse is how the GLOBALISTS plan to BLAME CAPITALISM and usher in GLOBAL COMMUNISM .

          Trump and his “badgers ” see Sundance photo above …have a different AMERICAN VIEW .

          The AMERICA FIRST #MAGA plan is to COLLAPSE THE FED as ….” audit the fed or end the fed “….are political recourse blocked by the UNIPARTY .

          Throughout all of history every paper currency has eventually become worth $0.00

          It matters NOT not so much as how much money is printed as WHO gets the INTEREST payments ( seniorage ) . The never ratified 16th amendment INCOME TAX is an interest payment to the OWNERS of the not federal and NO RESERVE federal reserve .

          MOST people believe their income tax goes to run the country !! THAT IS A LIE .

          AMERICA FIRST is to issue a new dollar from the Treasury …constitutional money to COMPETE WITH THE bank money …….the TV will tell you that president Trump has gone MAD !! printing his own money !!

          it’s what YOU do at that moment that will secure YOUR future and wealth .

          I”M in the front car of the TRUMP TRAIN fully ” strapped ” and buckled in for this wild and amazing AMERICAN RIDE !!

          Let Bill Still explain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOAiEO_d1sU

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        • booger71 says:

          Yeah, the 2500 people who lost their very good paying jobs at the Zenith plant in my town after the passing of NAFTA wood agree Wheatietoo.

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        • fleporeblog says:

          wheatietoo you are absolutely right! Congratulations to the Mexican and Canadian governments. Mexico alone has benefited to the tune of $1 to $2 trillion+ in trade profits from the US since this nightmare on the Forgotten Men and Women was implemented. Think of all the American jobs lost, families broken because finances is the #1 reason for divorce. Alcohol and drug abuse because folks needed to escape reality. And regrettably death from suicide and poor health.

          I am sorry but payback is truly a BITCH and someone from those countries will have to pay for the next 20 to 30+ years!

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        • I remember saying at the time, “What is “free” about a trade agreement that is 3000 pages long?” I still stand by that! Ridiculous.

          I hope the new “agreement” will be many pages fewer this time.

          We need to pull on the reins of that galloping trade horse, so we can rein in the globalists!

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      • dilonsfo says:

        That’s true…only a trading partner would pay a terrorist who killed one of our soldiers 10 million dollars and structure so the payment goes to the terrorist’s father so the widow of the slain soldier cannot file a claim against the settlement. Oh, only a trading partner would flood our country with citizen’s of their country illegally and also allow citizens of other nations safe passage thru their country to gain illegal access to our country. Great trading partner’s….sure glad they are not enemies.

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      • Daniel says:

        I disagree. NAFTA was never a good idea. Ross Perot knew it all too well and did his level best to get the word out. The media and the globalist interests simply made more noise than he could overcome. I was paying attention to Mr. Perot and I voted for him because of it.

        And look back. He was right 100%.

        So given that he and others did, in fact, point out exactly why it was a bad idea, how can you say it was negotiated at a time when it seemed like a good idea?

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        • crepelady says:

          I voted for him too!

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        • Janeka says:

          Over 20% of the population saw thru the smoke & mirrors of NAFTA that was why I voted for Perot.. I knew he was right then and the same truth applies today.. At the time it felt great to vote for something other than the lesser of two evils too.. He had solid ideas and plans to keep America great

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      • litlbit2 says:

        The “giant sucking sound” is about to be put on mute. Bout time.

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      • Matt Musson says:

        NAFTA was supposed to take jobs from the Chinese and move them to Mexico. Today, because of significant labor cost increases in China, jobs may move from China to Mexico anyway.

        However, if you are going to build a robotic, high tech factory you may as well build it in the USA so you are on the right side of Currency and Transportation issues. And, you are near the only market that will continue to expand for the next 20 years.

        The days of the thousand source supply chain are soon coming to an end.

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        • Paco Loco says:

          Robotics and manufacturing automation are rapidly replacing human labor. Unionized, high wage labor, drove US manufacturing to China, Mexico and SE Asia in search of lower cost production. Today robots are manufacturing robots and human labor in manufacturing and agricultural production is being phased out. It is the dilemma of our times.

          High paying factory jobs are disappearing and will not be coming back due to,
          automation. High tech, high paid labor is in software programming and engineering. Service jobs and paper pusher jobs will be the next to be eliminated by automation. It’s a vicious cycle and the politicians are clueless as to what to do with millions of unemployed and the national economics required to support them.

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          • Learn how to repair things, build houses, carpentry, plumbing, electrical contracting, etc. Not all industries can be automated. Aircraft repair…(our business) I don’t see our technicians being replaced by robots. Skilled labor in certain fields is the way to go.

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      • Cetera says:

        What kind of an American doesn’t recognize the greatest quote from the cheesiest movie with the legendary Schwarzenegger?

        I would classify an enemy as someone who is actively stealing from you, undermining your legal rights, and thwarting your will. Mexico certainly qualifies.

        And I don’t care at all who had the original idea on NAFTA. Irrelevant. It sucks now, it has sucked for a long time, and one goofy dude stood up nationally and expounded over and over again on how much it was going to suck almost 25 years ago. He was proven absolutely correct.

        MOAR popcorn!

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    • Bendix says:

      There are plenty of enemies involved in this. That there are also well-meaning dupes involved doesn’t alter the fact that there are some pretty dangerous and evil forces at work here.
      Right on, wheat.

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  2. These “horrible people who you wouldn’t want to have dinner with” are now working for us.

    God truly does work in mysterious– and wonderful–ways. May God continue to bless our country, our President, and his appointees.

    What a wonderful time to be alive!

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  3. Janie M. says:

    I always like to put a face with a name. This is 2014 photo of Assistant U.S. Trade Representative John Melle.

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  4. A2 says:

    Once again proving A2nomics 101, one size does not fit all. And the corollary, people who can walk and chew gum at the same time, like our wolverines, are raiding many nests, China, Mexico, Canada,….

    And third corollary, I would be happy to feast with the wolverines.

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    • jmclever says:

      I agree; however, I have thought many times that I would not like to be a teenager on the receiving end of those withering glances from Tillerson and Ross!

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  5. Keln says:

    Mark my calendar? Why? I already know how this ends.

    We win.

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  6. Daniel says:

    This will all go very under-reported, of course. This presidency is ALL about getting the job done and he is ABSOLUTELY taking on most of the heavy lifting himself. Yesterday’s drama was extremely significant in that he most definitely put it out there to the senators what he expects and quite sure he put it out there what THEY can expect if they fail to comply. (I say it again, I expect McConnell and/or Ryan to step aside in their roles or to give up their seats before this is all done)

    President Trump has got the be the hardest working president in US history and if not, then the hardest working president in the last 100 years. It is all done with very specific intent. He has yet to be faced with anything which is truly a surprise which requires any sort of change of course or direction but I do expect “them” to try to stage a crisis of that nature before too long.

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    • StuckIntheMiddle says:

      He’s ahead of the game down five avenues simultaneously. I have confidence.

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    • Suzanne says:

      I wish I thought you were correct about Ryan and/or McConnell stepping down but from where I sit It is my position that neither one of them would do that even with guns to their heads. If I were a betting woman I would bet that the super snake Ryan drew up Articles of Impeachment on November 9th and they are sitting in his desk drawer waiting to be filed at the first opportune moment. I also think that Ryan is Machiavellian enough to try to steer Congress along some path or another where he himself winds up occupying 1600… color me a charter member of the Tinfoil Hat Society if you want, but I would bet my last cent on that being his ultimate goal

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      • Daniel says:

        The Republican masses are turning against him and he’s quite aware of it. He’s following orders, not making plans. He’s nowhere near as smart as you make him out to be — Machiavelli was a very intelligent man, but Ryan is not.

        I think you will find those who are younger and in power lack the ability to see more than two moves ahead. Ryan is among them. They are all about instant gratification which is fine if you’re a foot soldier.

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        • fleporeblog says:

          I agree Daniel! Mark Meadows in particular seems to be more of a shot caller than Ryan. I am actually ok with that because after that spat with our President in April, the entire Freedom Caucus got the message and have corrected themselves!

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      • USMCLt says:

        Ryan may dream of such a scenario, but I don’t think he’s smart or vicious enough to orchestrate it.

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  7. citizen817 says:

    The economic dream team will be like rolling thunder.

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  8. Donna in Oregon says:

    $o exciting! Cannot wait to see how our economy changes under smart people. This will be the first Trade Agreement that I will follow closely. Hope to learn how the sausage is made.

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    • deanbrh says:

      AMEN, Donna, this topic is so new to me, and I like this University class so much more than the many I attended to get my degrees. Sundance University is the BEST, and we get lots of photos we would never get at the likes of UCSF. Thank you, Sundance, again and again. Also Wheaties and A2. 🙂

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    • CharterOakie says:

      That was probably him making his self-deprecating comment “I’m all ears.”

      Ross was absolutely right about NAFTA and the effects it would have on US manufacturing jobs, trade and government deficits. We should have elected him, America. Would have saved ourselves $trillions of damage.

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      • Orygun says:

        The media was against him also. My family voted for him because we knew something was wrong but the media was spinning every thing he did. Without the internet and fact checking it was nearly impossible to tell when you were being lied to.
        I am sure the Bushes and Clintons think of that period as “the good ole days”.

        Funny how so many of us Perot voters ended up as staunch Trump voters.
        MAGA!

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    • Jim in TN says:

      I didn’t know Perot did Obama impressions.

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  9. dilonsfo says:

    The big thing I notice is all the work and accomplishments are being made by President Trump and his team. Meanwhile, Congress, who had done nothing but take recesses and appear on the MSM will go home and brag about how they are changing the country economically, and stopping the illegals from entering the country and arresting those that have.

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    • Daniel says:

      If they go home, that will be the beginning of a targeted campaign. The ease by which President Trump dispatched his competition should be written in history for all to remember. To think he couldn’t or wouldn’t do it again?

      The real question is whether he calls out his targets by name or simply points in their general direction. Either way, his base will respond and denounce the Republican leaders until they are replaced or they simply step down. He’s got too much time ahead of him to waste it battling these idiots. He knows they need to be moved out of the way but at first, he had to try to work with them.

      If they defy him now, that will be the final message from them and the one which opens up the big ugly Sundance spoke of days ago.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      I think Americans see this as well, if they are honest. He EASILY makes everyone else look like the slouches that they are. And yesterday he finally outlined it for the world to see, and his anger was directed at the RHINO’s in front of him and the rest of their DIM UNIParty that was not invited.

      I would mix that up with the Jamie Dimon speech on the stupidity in D.C. and get it on the airwaves on R.E.P.E.A.T.

      http://fortune.com/2017/07/14/jpmorgan-jamie-dimon-trump/

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  10. anthohmy says:

    LOL at LOL

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  11. TwoLaine says:

    It’s so funny how the people on the tubes are now talking about changing NAFTA, i.e., what needs to/should be done, as if this was all their own idea. Less thsn two years ago NAFTA was golden and this was this was a crazy town idea.

    OH, and today they are again spreading a new faux poll.

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  12. India Maria says:

    “…this is one of the biggest economic processes that falls almost exclusively outside of the reach of lobbyists.”d

    For the Average “Forgotten American” THIS is the Big Enchilada. Underemployed Heads of Household; worried wives; crime-frightened elderly could give a RAT’s A^^ about Muh-Russia, or the latest “Mueller outrage.” They crave jobs, opportunity, savings, safety, security in the future, their kids well-being……Trade saves the Middle Class. The Middle Class is the spine of our Free Republic. Donald The Magnificent.

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    • Bendix says:

      Look how much worse our historically black inner-city areas became after NAFTA. They were struggling before, as were many white areas, but they weren’t the shooting galleries with complete societal breakdown we have now.

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  13. Katie says:

    Why yes, I do have something of a crush on Steven Mnuchin. Glasses and amazing with numbers? Sign me up! First time I’ve ever had a crush on a member of any President’s cabinet. Besides my crush on President Trump, of course.

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  14. duchess01 says:

    President Trump is sending his best warriors to this fight – I am confident they will make the right decisions for America! God Bless them all and may the Holy Spirit guide their thoughts, words, and deeds – The Trump Team will MAGA – they will not disappoint IMHO

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  15. heldnmut says:

    Very exciting! Major thanks to you, Sundance, for awakening my interest and educating me on these, and so many other, important and impactful issues of relevance.

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  16. Bendix says:

    I wonder how many of the “thinking class” now understand what our president is doing, and are secretly cheering him on?
    I wonder what Oprah is thinking? She’s not a stupid woman. It has to have dawned on her by now, that the man she told us was The One, not only didn’t do a thing to advance the welfare of the very poor underclass, he made it markedly worse for them.
    I don’t expect her to actually admit this.
    I just wonder what she’s thinking, that’s all.

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  17. 4430lacey says:

    Look for Congress to attempt to horn in on by wanting their own deals, after all, they have “campaign contributions to collect”, bribes to be reaped and non profit foundation run by the family, they have to eat too.

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  18. emet says:

    Dec 17 2007 CBP abandons 47 million dollar penalty against Ford for Nafta record keeping violations. Know anybody doing hard time for Nafta violations? Any 18USC 542 fraud prosecutions/penalties for transshipping Chinese wearing apparel theu Mexico? Anybody? Yep. A big free for all, and the US taxpayers lost bigly

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  19. Bendix says:

    If you go on line, to refresh your memory as to the origins of NAFTA (as I did when I saw some Van character on CNN who evidently believed a Bush was responsible) you will see a lot of idiotic arguing back and forth by some very uninformed people.
    Here is Bill Clinton speaking at the signing:

    He makes some new order and global type remarks that are kind of scary in hindsight, but the main thing this illustrates is that this does not look like a man being FORCED to sign anything, as many claim.
    Yes, we can trace the roots of the concept back to Ronald Reagan in 1980. 1980 is when Sundance
    puts the roots of the globalist movement too. That doesn’t mean what we’re seeing now was all Reagan’s doing, does it?

    A friend of mine who is an immigrant living here legally, quite a while back pointed out to me that when the two political parties in the US get together on something, it always means the average citizen had better watch out.
    He didn’t know it, but what he was talking about wasn’t bipartisanship but the Uniparty in action.
    It was the beginning of the Uniparty when Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law. Another example? Even curmudgeon Republican George Will acknowledges the mortgage fraud crisis was a bipartisan (Uniparty) effort. One more instance where poor non-white people’s welfare was used as an excuse to do something that benefitted some very wealthy global corporatists.
    What difference, at this point, does it make?
    It has to go, and it’s going, and here’s hoping that our president succeeds in ridding us of this abomination, and that a lot of people who thought they knew it all will have to eat crow,

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  20. Swedishmeatball says:

    After our Wolverine’s negotiate better deals for American business/farmers etc.. Can we sick-em on the Union’s in our country? The Union Pensions are killing every state in America! CALPer’s annual 7% return and if they don’t hit that return, the city/county/state have to pay the difference! Union reform has to happen!!

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    • Correction: “public” unions. The other ones are pretty toothless by now. And every example you cite is, in fact, related to public unions’ pensions, which must be paid by city and county and state taxpayers.

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  21. SPMI says:

    Wheatietoo = PATRIOT
    along with several others
    A2 = troll
    Plain and simple

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  22. rashamon says:

    I think George Webb (Jason and Trish) started off being ticked off about Bernie Sanders getting the shaft from Hilarity, but their work is more than helping our President uncover the graft and swampy in the world around him. Thanks to Sundance and a few other sites, the Deep Deep Deep Deep Dregs of our political underworld are baring their naked rear ends. We might find out what the sneaky little devils have been doing for the last *whatever* years.

    🙂 I am rather joyful today!

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  23. jstanley01 says:

    Is the new agreement going to be fast-tracked by the Senate? LOL

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  24. Keep seeing the robotics argument and worrisome hand-wringing. Let me tell you a true story. Husband used to work for a Spanish company that put in a robotic paint line in China. Husband’s human line in U.S. out performed robotic line and proved China’s numbers were fudged repeatedly to show better percentages. New robotic line was put in place in husband’s plant. Still had human side versus robotic side. Human side won repeatedly. Corporate’s reaction? Oh no, that’ll never do. How will we explain this expenditure on equipment? (Said aloud, mind you.) Then that’s when reductions and incentives taken away. Massive exodus of humans. There. There you go, there’s the robots winning – through manipulative massaging of numbers and stratagem. Yet another forced narrative.

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  25. rashamon says:

    “forced narrative” — how may ways do I love thet!

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  26. TreeperInTraining says:

    Way back in the day, when NAFTA was popular, the coal region area where I live were chock-full of “Shafta the NAFTA” signs, bumper stickers and, T-shirts. I might still have a old wrinkled tee at the bottom of my traveling trunk. Perhaps it would be a good time to bring back the slogan?

    SHAFTA THE NAFTA

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  27. Brant says:

    Talks need to be nowhere near DC. Maybe camp David after being scanned for bugs. Or maybe mar a Lago. DC will be just ripe for lobbyists wedging their way in the door. Also, media galore.

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  28. RedBallExpress says:

    There is an official website sponsored by the globalists that explains many of their goals. It included the distribution of gas and electric power throughout Canada, the US and Mexico by a single large corporation. Basically they wanted one country. It lists the Bushes, probably the Clintons & Colin Powell and everyone else that was on board. I wish I could find it again.

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  29. RedBallExpress says:

    There is an official website sponsored by the globalists that explains many of their goals. It included the distribution of gas and electric power throughout Canada, the US and Mexico by a single large corporation. There were many maps and charts. Basically they wanted one country. It lists the Bushes, probably the Clintons & Colin Powell and everyone else that was on board. I wish I could find it again.

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