Friday March 31st – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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126 Responses to Friday March 31st – Open Thread

  1. Garrison Hall says:

    Duende . . .

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  2. conservalicious says:

    Over on the Reddit Politics sub people are celebrating the Flynn agreeing to testify if he gets immunity. I still don’t know if the story is even true, (seen several versions saying the IC committees deny ever getting the message). Anyway, it made me think of all the times the Lib’s and the MSM pronounced Trumps campaign dead and had to eat their words when he came back stronger than ever. This cartoon pretty much nails it…

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  3. citizen817 says:

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  4. JC says:

    I’m sure many Treepers noted this terrific development today. It’s yuge and an enormous answer to prayer. Thank God for our pro-life President!

    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/99820022/

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  5. citizen817 says:

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  6. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    Opened to a packed house down here two weeks ago. 👿

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  7. Lucille says:

    A great compilation, some with a then/now theme….

    Oldest Footage of London Ever

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      That is so well done and interesting. I really liked that they put the old and new side by side, and that they showed where the location was on the map. Could you believe the amount of traffic in London in 1917? Unbelievable.

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  8. Lucille says:

    Stunning footage shows a giant Russian volcano violently erupting for the first time in 250 YEARS
    • The 7,103ft tall (2.2km high) Kambalny volcano is in the Kamchatka peninsula in the far east of Russia
    • The colossal volcano recently became active and spewed out a 60-mile long ash plume visible from space
    • Snow-topped volcano last erupted and poured out lava during the reign of Catherine the Great in the 1700s
    By WILL STEWART FOR MAILONLINE

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4359656/Russian-volcano-awakes-time-250-years.html

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  9. F.D.R. in Hell says:

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  10. nwtex says:

    Here’s one for Smiley

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  11. sundance says:

    Pre-Caturday….

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  12. Dora says:

    Otolia Kraszewska (1859-1945) – The Fortune Teller

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  13. nwtex says:

    André Rieu is so very special.

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    • allhail2 says:

      We saw him several years ago in Orlando. We had a blast. I’m a country, classic rock, 80″s rock guy primarily.

      If you ever get a chance to see him and his orchestra, GO. It doesn’t matter what your taste in music is, I promise, you will have a great time. And, you will recognize nearly everything they play. He is a true showman and intimately gets the audience involved.

      We’ve been wanting to do a trip and see him in Austria, Switzerland, or Germany.

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      • nwtex says:

        Wow! How wonderful!! I have chills just imaging what it must be like to breathe the same air.

        I am always moved when the camera pans the audience (youtube)! Every single person seems to simply be enraptured! Spellbound. If I ever DID have the opportunity to go I know I would be walking on clouds for days…the world would look so much different.

        I sure hope your desire will materialize…..travel….to the music! That would be just too awesome…..to see him in his part of the world. Wow!

        And YES, I sure will be in his audience if he is ever in my parts. You betcha.

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  14. Dora says:

    We all get thirsty.

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  15. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

     photo extinction.jpg

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  16. redlegleader68 says:

    ALERT: Any Treepers coming to or through Atlanta, be aware that I-85 inside I-285 is closed!! See the story and pics in the article:

    I-85 closed in Midtown Atlanta during morning commute after fire, collapse

    http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/245059796-story

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    • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:

      Hotlanta!

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      • redlegleader68 says:

        UPDATE: Make your travel plans accordingly:

        Inspectors say both north and southbound lanes of I-85 must be replaced at crash site

        http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/245059796-story

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        • Ziiggii says:

          so was it a crash or not that started the fire?

          FTA:

          The cause of the fire is still under investigation, but the FBI said it did not believe the fire was a criminal act. The feds said they will continue to track the progress of the local investigation.

          interesting!

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          • redlegleader68 says:

            No idea, Ziiggii; many are suspiciously quiet on that subject! To all our buds from (among others) Michigan, Wisconsin, New Jersey, New York, et al, coming down either I-75 or I-85 DO NOT come through town – go around I-285 on your way to Florida!

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    • georgiafl says:

      Infrastructure fail – due to age? Strange to see a whole square section just fell flat.

      President Trump would be likely to have the whole area tested for concrete and structural integrity.

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      • cdquarles says:

        Possibly, but fire is an issue that will complicate things. I live not too far away from Atlanta and have driven on those interstates fairly often. I would think that very little of the original I75/I85/I20 is still there. Those highways have been expanded from 4-lanes to 12-lanes in places. That’s not counting the ring road I285.

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        • georgiafl says:

          Suspicious looking the more I think about it.

          The fire must have been below to make a section fail like that. Looks more like multiple supports were compromised.

          I’m thinking ‘set charges’ – a test for more to come.

          Many radicals of every sort in Hotlanta.

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          • cdquarles says:

            I need to see the pictures or videos. A wreck happened in Birmingham, where an 18-wheeler crashed into the support beams of one section of the ‘Malfunction Junction’ (I59/I20/I65) and there was a fire (memory isn’t good, but the fire was diesel fuel plus gasoline, I believe). That section had to be replaced for safety. Simply put, a fire does not have to melt steel to cause a problem. It has to get hot enough to soften the rivets, bolts, or rebar to cause safety concerns. If signs of softening are seen in the beams, well, that’s definitely trouble that must be addressed.

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            • georgiafl says:

              I’m sure you know a lot more than I do.

              My consideration was of the concrete pillars underneath the single collapsed section being destroyed, not of the steel they support.

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              • cdquarles says:

                I’ve tracked down some pictures. Reports, naturally are sketchy. Some say there was a crash. Some don’t. One picture, linked to by a poster in the comment section at Zerohedge does indeed show a fire under the section in question. The picture isn’t particularly good, so it is hard to say whether it was a electrical fire in one of the cable junctions or something more nefarious.

                Looking at posts at #atltraffic on twitter, some show the collapsed section and some show smoke. Again, some confirmation but little to go on at the moment.

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  17. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
    Romans 10:9 (KJV)

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  18. duchess01 says:

    Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

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  19. BT in SC says:

    Good morning, y’all!

    We are not infidels, here, and we eat pork. Last Sunday G_d & Country posted a recipe for a bacon-wrapped apricot pork on the daily open thread. I made it, finally, last night. I took pictures [I must figure out how to post a photo, here.]. It was absolutely awesomely delicious!! Have to highly, highly recommend. And, DH said it was definitely one of the five best meals I’ve ever made for him – in twenty-five years of marriage!! The recipe is a keeper for sure. It will be my new “go to” for special dinners and for guests; not only did it taste wonderful, but it looked fabulous, too – all that pork, together, glistening with apricot sauce – and it looked like I had to have spent hours in the kitchen, I really didn’t. [By all means, do double – or triple – the sauce.] Thank you so much, G & C, for sharing your recipe.

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    • G-d&Country says:

      Hello BT in SC.You are Welcome! I have been off working on a home improvement project, and have not done my usual reading and posting. Dear hubby said “You have to look at the Treehouse today. Someone wrote you a really nice thank you! I’m so glad you and your hubby liked it! I appreciate your feedback on a recipe, because everyone’s tastes are different, and nobody wants to spend money and time on something that tastes awful. I would like to see the picture you took. In all the years I’ve made it, I never thought to take a picture. My biggest problem with my own recipes is I often do not use exact measurements, so I have to estimate the amount I use. That’s one reason I say to adjust to your tastes somewhat. My mom loved apricots. We would experiment putting them with anything we ate. I was thinking of possibly expanding to pork, and not just bacon. I’ll be back to posting bacon recipes probably on Monday, and hope you find other recipes you enjoy. 🙂 Happy dining to you and your hubby!

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      • BT in SC says:

        Admin – Is there any way for G & C and I to exchange e-mails? She us welcome to my e-mail, which you have, and then she could e-mail me so I can send her the pictures I took of dinner last night. How can this be facilitated? I’d post my e-mail here, but not sure that’s the best way. Any suggestions? Much appreciated! BT

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  20. duchess01 says:

    Prayer ~ Thank You for My Life ~ Oksana Rus

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  21. Dora says:

    Truly a world gone mad.

    ==

    California Transgender Inmates May Soon Be Given Bras, Mascara, Lip Gloss

    Rule change prompted by complaints of murderer serving a life sentence
    http://freebeacon.com/culture/california-transgender-inmates-may-soon-given-bras-mascara-lip-gloss/

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  22. KitKat says:

    Only Boys Aloud – The Lord’s Prayer

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    • filia.aurea says:

      Thanks for posting. The back story of Only Boys Aloud should inspire everyone within unemployment and poverty stricken cities, where youths turn to gang violence in attempt to be “part” of something.

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  23. Ziiggii says:

    I finally got a chance to sit down and read this OpEd from The Hill that the President ‘encouraged’ the HFC to pay attention to:

    It’s like a copy / pasta of all the articles SD wrote concerning the AHCA. As if the Congressman from Colorado literally took one of the many articles and regurgitated it onto a higher profile stage.

    In fact, we have to trust the president and party leaders, because the law requires a meandering path through Senate rules and administrative action before we can arrive at a better system.

    this is a hard pill for the many ‘abused conservatives’ to swallow. And to be frank / honest – I get it! I don’t trust the party leadership (Ryan / McTurttle) either. But the base needs to remember their ‘COLD ANGER’ that got them through the primary and election season.

    Just because ‘The Donald’ made it into the Oval Office does not mean that he can or should set off a nuclear bomb to clear the swamp. No, the swamp has to many hiding places to be so reckless in exterminating it’s inhabitants. No, this swamp needs much TLC to fully clear out the infestation that has had decades to build out it’s nooks and crannies. As such, it requires a methodical slow progress [COLD ANGER] to insure that no stone is left not turned, no hole not fully explored to it’s deepest depths.

    SD – I would encourage a return to regular COLD ANGER articles to help assist the Presidents base to cool their rage and remember it was by COLD ANGER that they were able to place the ultimate outsider in the post powerful Executive Office in the world. And it will be that same COLD ANGER that saw them through the election season that will see them through this process of ‘draining the swamp’. It’s a long game and I highly doubt that the extermination process with be complete even in a 2 term Trump White House. But many hands make lite work….

    #COLDANGER

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    • KitKat says:

      President Trump won an election for Republicans that no other Republican could have or would have won. Since his inauguration he has enacted more “conservative” legislation than was ever dreamed possible by the most conservative of conservatives.

      The challenges he faces are huge, and any Republican who doesn’t support him supports a speedy return to political helplessness in the political wilderness.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      I tried to think of another possible metaphor other than the “strip the old priceless car down to bare metal” that was used during the primaries…

      The best I could think of to go along with the idea of extermination was fire ants. Fire ants will instinctively attack anything that threatens to disturb it’s home and they can be deadly in their attacks to defend their turf. Not only that but a well established home can be YUGE with a kinds of places for them to hide and recover if their defenses do not hold. They will hide away and slowly start the process of recovering their colonies strength. So to really get rid of a colony is a slow process with determination.

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  24. Ziiggii says:

    Wikileaks released part 3 of Vault 7:

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  25. AFVet says:

    This video is about 1 hour 20 minutes long but worth watching.
    It’s like a book that you can’t put down.
    With all of the shenanigans we see going on in WDC, sometimes it’s nice to hear from a whistleblower.
    I sure hope this woman has security.

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  26. testpointwp says:

    Paid Russian troll is now a career path. This according to Mike Rogers of the Wall Street Journal 3/28/ 2017.

    Cyberpropagandists (trolls) work 12 hour shifts and are required to post 135 comments of 200 characters or more. “A high-volume, multichannel propaganda machine …”

    Trolling is also being automated through artificial intelligence, botnets, robocalls and rapid spamming. When “someone” shows concern, begins an ad hominem attack, puts up a straw man or is just generally disagreeable, that someone may be a machine.

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  27. usnveteran says:

    “We The People” are still arm chairing our Freedom on the eve of being too late.

    I have spoken with several groups of people who are so excited with their plans of “bugging-out” to remote locations. I hated to burst their bubbles, but the NWO-types can track you down before you are leaving to get to your bunkers, can find you anywhere, and do anything to you at their pleasures.

    We should have and could and should have stopped the stomp of communism decades ago. Now we are left with finding ways to survive and then conquer communism.

    March 31, 2017
    Politically Correct Goon Squads Snuffing Out Liberty In America:

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  28. Jack says:

    Admin, will you please have Sundance look into this link. Dennis Michael Lynch didn’t connect to dots but it would explain the entire Evelyn spill on MSNBC…her sources and means, why Trump team couldn’t find out, why she knows things the Hill doesn’t, etc.
    http://dennismichaellynch.com/claim-clinton-retained-access-info-leaving-state-dept/

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  29. Patriot1783 says:

    Duhhhh guess no one saw this coming 🙄 What other Muslim outrage will be arriving next to your German town?
    http://iotwreport.com/germany-muslim-parents-furiously-protest-against-a-homosexual-employee-at-school/

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  30. Dora says:

    Sure makes a person feel safe, doesn’t it?

    ===

    ‘Someone Is Getting Shot. Oh Well,’ L.A. Sheriff’s Deputy Says, Ignoring Dispatcher [Video]

    The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department confirmed that it is investigating the deputy in the video. Warning: Video contains profanity.

    https://patch.com/new-york/massapequa/s/g2ti2/someone-is-getting-shot-oh-well-l-a-sheriffs-deputy-says-ignoring-dispatcher-video

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  31. Dora says:

    The first time I ever saw a Manatee was in Florida about 30 years ago. I’ve been fascinated with them ever since.

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  32. Lucille says:

    PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS SUFFER ‘WORST YEAR YET,’ MOSTLY UNDER ISLAM
    In 18 Muslim nations, “100 percent of Christians experience persecution,” states report.
    March 30, 2017 – Raymond Ibrahim
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266265/persecuted-christians-suffer-worst-year-yet-mostly-raymond-ibrahim

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  33. Howie says:

    For wine people….

    How many wives would put up with
    a husband who bought wine instead of clothes, wine instead of furnature, wine instead of food, wine instead of a decent car, in fact wine when there was money for nothing–if that is possible.

    Bernard H. Laxler

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  34. filia.aurea says:

    More good news. Gloria Allred is under investigation by the California State BAR. http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/exclusive-gloria-allred-under-state-bar-investigation-for-possible-misconduct/

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  35. Sepp says:

    Today is the Fifth Friday of the Great Fast or Lent for Orthodox Christians.

    This evening is dedicated to praying the Akathistos Hymn or the Salutations to the Theotokos, the Mother of our Lord, God, and Saviour Jesus Christ.

    The people stand in prayer. (Traditional Orthodox Churches do not have pews or rows of chairs.) The origins of this service date back many, many centuries when the people were under siege in ways similar to how Christians are under siege today.

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  36. anthohmy says:

    Brennan and Clapper give a talk on PDB at Nixon Library

    MR. BRENNAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. IT IS WONDERFUL TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. IT IS AN HONOR TO BE PART OF WHAT I KNOW WILL BE A FASCINATING AND ENLIGHTENING EVENT FOR ALL OF US. THANK YOU, JOE, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS PROJECT. THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF MANY MONTHS OF EFFORT BY YOU AND YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR YOUR TERRIFIC WORK, AND FOR OPENING THE DOORS TO US TODAY. ALSO IN THE GRAND TRADITION OF OUR POLITICAL PROCESSORS, IT IS A PLEASURE TO ESCAPE WASHINGTON, D.C. IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST. MAYBE MORE THIS YEAR THAN PREVIOUS YEARS. I WOULD NORMALLY SAY THAT IT FEELS GREAT TO BE OUT OF WASHINGTON, BUT I SEE THAT WE ARE ALL IN THE EAST ROOM. IT IS A BIT SURREAL. REMARKABLE LIBRARY. I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPENING OF THE LIBRARY ON OCTOBER 14. AS I HAVE OFTEN SAID, BEING CIA DIRECTOR IS THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST JOB IN THE WORLD. ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING ELEMENTS OF MY TENURE HAS BEEN THE CHANCE TO GET ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO GIVE OUR FELLOW CITIZENS A FULLER UNDERSTANDING OF THE TREMENDOUS WORK PERFORMED BY THE WOMEN AND MEN OF CIA, FROM THROUGHOUT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. TODAY IS ONE SUCH OPPORTUNITY TO SHED LIGHT ON OUR MISSION AND OUR HISTORY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT OFTEN AS EASY I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE. BY DEFINITION, THE WORLD OF INTELLIGENCE REQUIRES A SUFFICIENT DEGREE OF SECRECY TO PROTECT OUR OFFICERS, SOURCES, METHODS, AND NATION. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEMAND MORE OF THEIR INTELLIGENCE SERVICES AND DESERVE BETTER THAN SECRECY FOR SECRECY’S SAKE. THE UNIQUE AUTHORITIES GRANTED TO US THROUGH CONGRESS ARE A SACRED TRUST, ONE THAT WE MUST LEARN IN PART BY BEING AS FORTHCOMING AS WE CAN. TODAY’S OCCASION IS ONE WAY IN WHICH WE SEEK TO EARN THAT TRUST. WHEN WE CAN BE OPEN ABOUT WHAT WE DO, WHEN DOING SO DOES NOT HINDER OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS OR HURT NATIONAL SECURITY, WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE HISTORICAL RECORD. THE PRESIDENT’S DAILY BRIEF REPRESENTS THE BEST PICTURE OF THE WORLD THAT CIA AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY CAN FURNISH TO THE PRESIDENT. IT IS THE PREMIER INTELLIGENCE PRODUCT, CULMINATION OF PAINSTAKING EFFORT EACH DAY SO THAT OUR NATION’S LEADERS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO CHART A SAFE AND SUCCESSFUL COURSE FOR OUR COUNTRY. IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE MOST SENSITIVE THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY PRODUCES. PDB PROVIDES AN UNVARNISHED AND OFTEN DIFFICULT TRUTH. SO THE RELEASE OF THESE HISTORICAL PDB’S REVEAL A CRUCIAL AND UNTIL NOW MISSING DIMENSION OF THE HISTORICAL NARRATIVE. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY GIVE US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHALLENGES FACING PRESIDENT’S NEXT AND AND FORD. LAST YEAR, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF SPEAKING IN TEXAS, AT THE FIRST SUBSTANTIAL RELEASE OF PDB ‘S FROM THE KENNEDY AND JOHNSON ADMINISTRATIONS. THAT COLLECTION CONTAINS SOME 2500 DOCUMENTS AND 19,000 PAGES. TODAY’S RELEASE IS NO LESS EXTENSIVE. I’M SURE IT WILL DELIGHT STUDENTS LOOKING FOR A DISSERTATION TOPIC. IT TIPS THE SCALES AT ABOUT 2500 DOCUMENTS AND 28,000 PAGES. THESE PDB’S PROVIDE US WITH A SURVEY OF THE WORLD AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO OUR NATION’S LEADERS AT THE TIME. BY READING THROUGH THIS RELEASE, YOU CAN ENVISION YOURSELF IN THE OVAL OFFICE, CONFRONTING THESE CHALLENGES. YOU CAN TRACE THE EVOLUTION OF COLD WAR TENSIONS WITH THE SOVIET UNION THAT PAVED THE WAY FOR AGREEMENTS ON NUCLEAR AND BIOLOGICAL PROLIFERATION. YOU CAN FOLLOW THE COURSE OF THE VIETNAM WAR TO THE POINT AS THE PDB PUT IT ON APRIL 30, 1975, WHEN THE FLAG OF THE VIET CONG GOVERNMENT WAS WASTED OVER THE PRESIDENTIAL PALACE, MARKING THE END OF 30 YEARS OF WAR IN VIETNAM. THERE’S ALSO COVERAGE OF THE COUP AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF CHILE, THE POSTCOLONIAL CONFLICTS IN ANGOLA, THE 1973 ARAB-ISRAELI WAR, AND THE EMERGENCE OF MODERN INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM. ALL THAT BARELY SCRATCHES THE SURFACE OF WHAT THIS COLLECTION ENTAILS. BY PERHAPS SCROLLING THROUGH THESE PDB’S WE ARE REMINDED THAT THE CHALLENGES FACING OUR POLICYMAKERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MORE DIFFICULT THAN HINDSIGHT LETS ON. AS THESE DOCUMENTS ELIMINATE HISTORY, THEY ALSO — ILLUMINATE HISTORY, THEY ALSO OFFER A WINDOW TO THE OVAL OFFICE. IT WAS DURING THE NIXON AND FORD ADMINISTRATIONS THAT THE PDB ALSO — CONTINUED TO GROW IN SOPHISTICATION. THE PDB SYNTHESIZED INTELLIGENCE AND CLANDESTINE REPORTING, OVERHEAD IMAGERY, INTERCEPTED COMMUNICATIONS, AND OPEN SOURCES. PUBLISHING THE PDB WAS TRULY A 24/7 PROCESS. PERHAPS FORESHADOWING THE GREATER ROLE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WOULD PLAY IN THE PROCESS, THE PDB UNDER PRESIDENT NIXON WOULD OFTEN FEATURE INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES. THOSE PRODUCTS THAT REPRESENTED NOT ONLY THE VIEWS OF CIA BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. INTELLIGENCE SUPPORT TO THE WHITE HOUSE WAS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT. DESPITE THE HISTORICAL VALUE, THE DOCUMENTARY RECORD ONLY GOES SO FAR. ALL TOO OFTEN, THERE ARE KEY MEMORIES AND ANECDOTES THAT DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE WRITTEN PAGE. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO BE JOINED BY DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE JIM CLAPPER. I’M CERTAIN THERE IS NO ONE MORE OF A FIGHT — MORE QUALIFIED THAN JIM TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PDB. JIM HAS HAD A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED CAREER, THAT EXTENDS EVEN FURTHER BACK THAN THE PERIOD COVERED IN TODAY’S RELEASE. IN THE 1960’S, JIM WAS A BRIEFER FOR GENERAL WESTMORELAND IN VIETNAM. SOME REPORTS INDICATE THAT JIM WAS GENERAL PATTON’S A DISCOUNT IN WORLD WAR II AS WELL AS A CLASSMATE OF JOHN J PURGING, BUT THOSE REPORTS REMAIN UNCORROBORATED. UNDER JIM’S OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP AS DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, THE PDB HAS BECOME A PRODUCT OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, MARSHALING ITS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE. I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THAT JIM WALKS THE TALK WHEN IT COMES TO FOSTERING THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF OPENNESS ABOUT OUR INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES. AN OFFICER WHO ROSE TO THE RANK OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL, DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL IMAGERY AND MAPPING AGENCY, UNDERSECRETARY FOR DEFENSE AND INTELLIGENCE, AND NOW DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, JIM CLAPPER HAS AGREED TO JOIN US TODAY FOR A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PDB’S. JIM, I WOULD ASK YOU TO JOIN ME ON THE STAGE SO WE CAN TALK A BIT OF SHOP. [APPLAUSE]

    MR. CLAPPER: HELLO? OK.

    MR. BRENNAN: JIM, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. YOU ARE BETTER POSTURED THAN ANYBODY ELSE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE PDB HAS CHANGED SINCE THE EARLY YEARS. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PDB’S DURING THE NIXON AND FORD ADMINISTRATIONS, BUT I THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE TO REFLECT ON HOW THE PRODUCT HAS CHANGED. BACK THEN, THERE WAS A HARD COPY DELIVERED TO THE PRESIDENT, AND THE PROCESS HAS CHANGED. I WANT TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE, SINCE YOU ARE NOW THE ONE THAT GOES INTO THE OVAL OFFICE TO MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT AND TALK ABOUT THE PDB, IF YOU BELIEVE THE PDB IS STILL AS INFLUENTIAL, IF NOT MORE INFLUENTIAL, IN TERMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S THINKING.

    MR. CLAPPER:

    THANKS, JOHN. THANKS FOR THE HONOR OF BEING ON STAGE WITH YOU FOR THE SECOND TIME SINCE I WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL IN THE ROLLOUT AT THE JOHNSON LIBRARY. SO IT IS A REAL HONOR TO BE WITH MY CLOSE FRIEND AND GREAT PROFESSIONAL COLLEAGUE, JOHN BRENNAN. WHO I BELIEVE IS GOING TO GO DOWN AS ONE OF A HAND ALL, AND DON’T USE ALL YOUR FINGERS, OF THE MOST OUTSTANDING DIRECTORS OF CIA IN ITS HISTORY. PERSONAL NOTE ON THESE TWO EVENTS, THEY ACTUALLY BOOK ENDED MY TORS IN SOUTHEAST ASIA, WITH THE VIETNAM IN 1955-66, AND 1970-71, FLYING RECONNAISSANCE MISSIONS OVER CAMBODIA. IN BOTH OCCASIONS, I DIDN’T KNOW THERE WAS A PDB. READING THROUGH THE CONTEMPORARY PDB’S, I UNDERSTOOD WHAT A VERY SMALL COG I WAS IN A LARGE WAR EFFORT. DURING THE COURSE OF THE TOUR — IS GOING TO BE SPECTACULAR, I THINK. I HAD A BAR GRAPH, A LINE GRAPH, ON THE NUMBER OF TROOPS DEPLOYED ON SOUTHEAST ASIA. THAT WAS A REMINDER. IN 1971, 300,000 PEOPLE IN SOUTHEAST ASIA, AND I WAS ONE OF THOSE. THAT IS TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE WHERE I SIT IN THE LARGER SCHEME OF THINGS. AS TO HOW PDB HAS CHANGED, I THINK THE MAJOR CHANGE, AS JOHN MENTIONED, IS THAT INSTEAD OF IT BEING EXCLUSIVELY A CIA PRODUCT, IT NOW REPRESENTS THE INPUT, THE VIEWS AND ASSESSMENTS, OF THE ENTIRE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. CIA IS STILL THE ENGINE FOR THE PDB, BUT IN ALL CASES, IT IS ALWAYS, REGARDLESS OF WHO DRAFTED, CIA OR ANY COMPONENT OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, IT IS ALWAYS COORDINATED THROUGHOUT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. AND IMPORTANTLY, WHERE APPROPRIATE AND WHERE SOMEONE WANTS TO, DISSENTS ARE REFLECTED. YOU WON’T FIND DISSENTS IN THE PDB’S THAT WERE ROLLED OUT IN THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, BECAUSE IT WAS DONE BY ONE AGENCY. I THINK THAT IS A STRENGTH, FRANKLY, TO REGISTER DISSENT, PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS WON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION SAID THAT HE WELCOMES THAT, WOULD BE SURPRISED THAT THERE WEREN’T DISSENT WITHIN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, SO WE REFLECT THAT. THE OTHER CHANGES ARE MORE OCCASIONED BY THE TECHNOLOGY. I MAY BE A LITTLE BIASED, BUT I THINK OUR PDB’S TODAY ARE RICHER BECAUSE OF THE MANY MORE SOURCES OF INFORMATION WE DRAW ON AND THE TIMELINESS OF THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE SOURCES OF INFORMATION, WHICH WEREN’T AVAILABLE THEN, BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE PDB’S THAT WILL BE ROLLED OUT TODAY. WE HAVE GONE TO AN IPAD. PRESIDENT OBAMA, WHO IS VERY I.T. SMART, WE WENT THROUGH THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THAT WAS A VERY HARD TRANSITION FOR SOME PEOPLE, NOT FOR HIM, BUT FOR OTHERS WHO DIDN’T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR PRECIOUS HARD COPY. NOW, IPADS HAVE BECOME THE STANDARD. THEY ARE DUMB IPADS, I SHOULD SAY. WE HAVE PAID MONEY TO DUMB THEM DOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN’T BE WIRELESS, OF COURSE. IT DOES ALLOW FOR MUCH MORE AGILITY IN THE PRESENTATION OF MATERIAL, TO INCLUDE GRAPHICS, VIDEOS, AND REFERENCES TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES, WHICH CAN BE DONE WITH THE POINTING OF A FINGER. I THINK, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE SOURCES OF THE PDB, THE TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED IN PRODUCING IT, THE FACT THAT IT IS MORE BROAD GAYS IN — BROAD GAZE IN REPRESENTING THE VIEWS OF THE ENTIRE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, AND DOES REFLECT DISSENT, I THINK ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES.

    MR. BRENNAN: VIETNAM WAS MENTIONED IN MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE PDB DOCUMENTS THAT ARE BEING RELEASED TODAY. TODAY’S EVENT IS ABOUT HISTORY. GENERAL WESTMORELAND WAS A HISTORICAL FIGURE. YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING HIM INTELLIGENCE ABOUT THE WAR. MAYBE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR YOUR VIEWS ABOUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BRIEF GENERAL WESTMORELAND, HOW HE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION, AND YOUR TECHNIQUES.

    MR. CLAPPER: I HAD BEEN IN THE AIR FORCE ABOUT 2.5 YEARS WHEN I WENT TO VIETNAM. I WAS IN THE FIRST 100 AIR FORCE INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS SENT ON A PERMANENT CHANGE OF STATION BASIS. UP UNTIL THAT POINT, LATE 1965, ALL U.S. FORCES DEPLOYED THERE WERE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. I HAD BEEN THERE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AND WAS SORT OF PLUCKED OUT OF THE SEA OF ANONYMOUS LIEUTENANTS, AND I WAS TOLD, NEXT SATURDAY, YOU ARE GOING TO HEADQUARTERS TO HELP BE PART OF A BRIEFING TEAM FOR GENERAL WESTMORELAND, WHO WAS THE COMMANDER OF U.S. MILITARY SYSTEMS COMMAND IN VIETNAM. I HAD NEVER EVEN SEEN A FOUR- STAR GENERAL IN MY LIFE, LET ALONE TALKED TO ONE. THIS WAS A VERY DAUNTING EXPERIENCE AND I WAS VERY NERVOUS THE FIRST TIME I DID IT. MY SPECIFIC READING TOPIC — BRIEDINFING TOPIC WAS TO SYNTHESIZE INTELLIGENCE REFLECTIONS OF AIRSTRIKES OVER NORTH VIETNAM. I PUT TOGETHER A MAP BOARD, SORT OF WHAT WE CALL ICON BOXES, AND I TOOK MY BRIEFING BOARDS DOWN EVERY SATURDAY TO BRIEF HIM. TO BE QUITE HONEST, I’M NOT SURE WHAT HE MADE OF IT. HE ALWAYS SEEMED VERY INTERESTED, ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OR REFLECTIONS OF A PARTICULAR INTERCEPT, WHICH I STRUGGLED TO ANSWER. I DID WONDER SOMETIMES ABOUT — HE HAD A GREAT AFFINITY FOR STATISTICS AND NUMBERS, AND I DID WONDER SOMETIMES WHETHER WE MAYBE BORED INTO THE WEEDS AND AWFUL LOT AT THE EXPENSE OF WHAT I CAME TO REGARD AS THE BIGGER PICTURE, WHICH TO BE CANDID, REFLECTED MY OWN GROWING DISILLUSIONMENT WITH THE WAR DURING MY YEAR THERE IN 1965 IN 1966. IT WAS AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE. LEARN SOME THINGS ABOUT HOW TO TRY TO PRESENT THINGS TO SENIOR PEOPLE, WHICH I TRUST HELPED ME LATER ON. IT WAS A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO ZERO. — EXPERIENCE TOO. I APPRECIATE THAT COMMAND CAN BE A VERY LONELY THING, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIVES OF SOLDIERS, AND WERE WATCHING A LOT OF THEM BE KILLED AND WOUNDED. THAT HAD A WEARING EFFECT ON GENERAL WESTMORELAND.

    MR. BRENNAN:

    SPEAKING ABOUT THE WEEDS AND THE BIG PICTURE, THE PDB’S BEING RELEASED TODAY CHRONICLE THAT WAR. THERE WERE DAILY DEVELOPMENTS. A LOT OF THE PIECES WERE FOCUSING ON THE TACTICAL DEVELOPMENTS ON THE YOU SEE THE BALANCE BETWEEN THAT TACTICAL AND STRATEGIC PICTURE BEING MANIFEST IN THE PDB, AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT TODAY IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE SITUATION IN SYRIA, IRAQ, OTHER PLACES, THAT WE HAVE A BROADER PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL TRENDS?

    MR. CLAPPER: JOHN, YOU PUT YOUR FINGER ON ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE CURRENT GENERATION OF PEOPLE WHO PUT TOGETHER THE PDB HAVE. HOW DO YOU BALANCE THE HIGH LEVEL OF GENERALITY THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE, AND AT THE SAME TIME, PRESENT ENOUGH DETAIL THAT THE READER, IN THIS CASE POLICYMAKER NUMBER ONE, CURRENTLY IS GETTING ENOUGH OF THE FLAVOR AND THE NUANCE AND THE SUBTLETIES AND THE ATMOSPHERICS THAT PREVAIL IN WHATEVER GIVEN SITUATION YOU ARE TRYING TO DESCRIBE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE CONSTANTLY WRESTLE WITH TODAY. TO TRY TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE. IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO GO BACK, AND I DID READ THROUGH A LOT OF THE PDB’S THAT ARE BEING ROLLED OUT, DURING THE PERIOD OF MY SECOND TOUR, 1970 TO 1971. JUST TO SEE WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME VERSUS WHAT I SAW IN THE ENGINE ROOM. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE PDB ARTICLES WERE A PRETTY GOOD CHRONICLE OF WHAT I RECALL FROM MY VANTAGE ON THE GROUND, WHEN I WAS IN VIETNAM AT THE SAME TIME. AND AS WELL, BECAUSE OF THE GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, THE GLOBAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE U.S. PRESIDENT, VIETNAM DOMINATED AS A TOPIC, THOSE PDB’S. THERE WERE MANY OTHER ISSUES THE PRESIDENT HAD TO DEAL WITH AS WELL, WHICH THE PDB HAD TO TREAT. THE COLD WAR, ACCESS TO BERLIN, THE EVER PRESENT MIDDLE EAST. THERE’S HAUNTING SIMILARITY BETWEEN SITUATIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST THEN VERSUS NOW. MANY OF THE SAME CONCERNS AND CONDITIONS. I THINK THAT — AND WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT CHALLENGE OF HOW TO BALANCE THE DETAIL AND THE BROAD PICTURE. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AGONIZING OVER WHAT TOPICS TO PICK. AND LABOR OVER EVERY WORD IN THE INTEREST OF DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO BE AS OBJECTIVE AND RESPONSIBLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MINDFUL OF THE PRESIDENT’S TIME. THIS PRESIDENT DEVOTES A LOT OF TIME TO INTELLIGENCE, BUT HE HAS A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER ISSUES, AS YOU ALL CAN APPRECIATE, ON HIS PLATTER, AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, THAT WE NOT INUNDATE HIM WITH TOO MUCH INTELLIGENCE, WHICH IS POSSIBLE. IT IS IN THE END FOR US TODAY AS IT WAS HISTORICALLY, A BALANCING ACT.

    MR. BRENNAN: THE PDB IS NOT THE ONLY ACCESS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAS TO THE PRESIDENT. WE SPEND TIME IN THE SITUATION ROOM AND SECURITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT THINGS STRATEGICALLY.

    MR. CLAPPER: EXACTLY RIGHT. JOHN AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME BONDING IN THE SITUATION ROOM. I THINK THAT IS A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT, IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY APPARATUS, INTELLIGENCE DRIVES EVERYTHING. JOHN AND I DON’T GET A PASS WHEN WE GO TO THESE MEETINGS. WE ALWAYS HAVE TO PRESENT THE INTELLIGENCE PICTURE. THEY ALL START WITH THAT. THAT KIND OF DRIVES THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETINGS. THE SPECIFIC FORM THAT THE PRESIDENT IS INVOLVED IN, NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, VERY MUCH DRIVEN BY INTELLIGENCE. SO THERE WILL BE INTELLIGENCE MATERIAL THAT THE PRESIDENT WILL READ, AND I THINK OUR OBSERVATION HAS BEEN, IN OUR TIME, THE PRESIDENT IS ALWAYS EMINENTLY PREPARED. HE HAS ALWAYS DONE HIS HOMEWORK BEFORE THESE MEETINGS. AS WELL, THE PRESIDENT, THE IPAD, THE PDB, HE READS THAT, SO WE DON’T ACTUALLY BRIEF THE PDB PER SE. WE DO HAVE MEETINGS, THOUGH, WHERE WE WILL BRIEF OTHER ITEMS, EITHER THAT SUPPLEMENT OR AUGMENT OR UPDATE WHAT IS IN THE PDB, OR ON OTHER ISSUES CIA IS VERY MUCH A PART OF THAT PROCESS AS WELL.

    MR. BRENNAN: THE PDB WILL FREQUENTLY BRING TO THE PRESIDENT, NEWS THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THAT PLEASING IN TERMS OF POLICY COURSE AND OPTIONS AND CHOICE. I WAS STRUCK BY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PDB’S IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION. THIS WAS IN FEBRUARY 14, 1969 IN THE GROUND. HOW DO PDB SAID THERE WERE ONLY A HANDFUL OF POLITICIANS IN SOUTH VIETNAM WITH WHOM A SMALL FRACTION OF THE PEOPLE IDENTIFIED THE GOVERNMENT IS LIKELY TO ACQUIRE A BROADER POLITICAL BASE BY BRINGING NEW FACES IN THE ARE THE CURE IS PRESIDENT NIXON WHOSE LEGACY WAS THE VIETNAM WAR AND HE NEEDS TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE SUPPORTING THE SELF THE EMMYS GOVERNMENT HERE IS INTELLIGENCE BRINGING THAT NEWS. BRINGING INFORMATION TO BE PRESIDENT THE BILLY CHALLENGES THE PRESIDENCY?

    MR. CLAPPER:
    YES. [LAUGHTER] MR. CLAPPER: FIRST OF ALL, THE QUOTE THAT YOU READ FROM THE PDB WAY BACK THEN WAS ACCURATE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE GREAT PERSONAL DISSOLUTION MONTHS I HAD — DISILLUSIONMENTS I HAD WHEN I GOT TO VIETNAM AND FOUND THAT WITH UNITED STATES WERE PROPPING UP A SERIES OF DICTATORS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN PRESERVING THEIR OWN POSITIONS AND LESSER INTEREST IN LEADING THEIR COUNTRY IN A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TIME. BOTH JOHN AND I HAVE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING THE BEARER OF BAD NEWS TO THE PRESIDENT. I THINK THE WORST CHASTISEMENT I EVER GOT WAS A COMMENT ABOUT, SOMETIMES THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAS A VERY ELEGANT SENSE OF TIMING. I REMEMBER THAT. I HAVE TO SAY AS WELL, PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS INSISTED, HAS INSISTED THAT WE ALWAYS TELL IT STRAIGHT, WE BE AS OBJECTIVE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AND TO NOT COLOR THINGS, POLITICIZE THINGS, NOT SHAKE THINGS, LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS. WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO THAT. THAT IS CERTAINLY ALWAYS BEEN THE OBJECTIVE. I CAN CERTAINLY RECALL SOME UNPLEASANT VISITS TO THE OVAL, WHICH I WILL NOT GO INTO, BUT IT IS A PART OF THE DEAL. IT IS ALMOST A WRIT IN INTELLIGENCE TO ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH TO A PAR. IT IS SOMETHING I HAVE THE OCCASION TO DO WITH GENERAL WESTMORE WERE IN AIRSTRIKES DID NOT GO SO WELL, OR AIRSTRIKES MISSED THE TARGET. AND HE DID NOT LIKE THAT, BUT I LEARNED EARLY ON THAT IS ONE OF THE, I THINK, FUNDAMENTAL OBLIGATIONS OF PROFESSIONAL INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS.

    MR. BRENNAN: JIM IS FAMOUS FOR SAYING, THERE ARE ONLY TWO CONDITIONS OF WASHINGTON. DO YOU WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

    MR. CLAPPER: YOU LEARNED THERE ARE ONLY TWO CONDITIONS IN LIFE, POLICY SUCCESS, INTELLIGENCE FAILURE. NO OTHER CONDITIONS IN LIFE. [LAUGHTER]

    MR. BRENNAN: AS YOU POINT OTHER SOME OF THE ANALYSIS LOOKS LIKE IMPRESSION AS TO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. A LOT OF TIMES POLICYMAKERS ARE SURPRISED. SOMETIMES IT CAN BE WITHOUT FOUNDATION, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WITH GOOD REASON. THIS PDB RELEASE COVERED THE 1973 ISRAELI WAR, WHICH BROKE OUT IN OCTOBER 6 OF 1973. ON OCTOBER 5 OF 1973, THE PDB SAYS THE MILITARY EXERCISES IN EGYPT SEEM TO BE ON A LARGER SCALE AND CONDUCTED MORE REALISTICALLY BUT THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO BE PREPARATION AGAINST ISRAEL. [LAUGHTER]
    MR. CLAPPER: JUST KIDDING, YOU KNOW? [LAUGHTER]
    MR. CLAPPER: I THINK THE SERIOUS POINT HERE IS THERE IS INTELLIGENCE ABOUT DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN MYSTERIES AND SECRETS. SECRETS ARE NORMAL FAX THAT, IF YOU HAVE THE ACCESS, YOU CAN CLEAN THEM — GLEEN THEM. MYSTERIES ARE UNKNOWN. I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, AND THIS MAY SOUND DEFENSIVE BUT I WILL SAY IT ANYWAY, I THINK TOO OFTEN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD FOR MYSTERIES AND SECRETS AND BEING CLAIRVOYANT. IN THIS CASE, AND THERE ARE MANY OTHERS, BUT WE DID NOT MAKE THE RIGHT COAL. ALL FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE, THERE ARE TEN CALLS THAT WE MADE THAT WERE CORRECT THAT NEVER GET PUBLICIZED AND WHERE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY SAVED LIVES BECAUSE OF OUR ABILITY, OUR FORESIGHT, ARE ANTICIPATORY ABILITIES, AND IT IS TO THE GREAT AND IF IT AND SAFETY OF THESE PEOPLE. I SAY THAT OVER A SPAN OF 53 YEARS, WHATEVER YEARS IT HAS BEEN, AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE INTELLIGENCE BUSINESS.

    MR. BRENNAN:
    WE JUST WATCHED THE OLYMPICS IN RIO DE JANEIRO. THESE PDB’S COVERED A TIME WHEN WE HAD THE TRAGIC ATTACKS IN MUNICH THAT LED TO THE DEATHS OF ISRAELI ATHLETES, WHICH HAD ONLY BRIEFED TREATMENT IN THE PDB’S. TODAY, TERRORISM IS MUCH MORE OF A PROMINENT FEATURE OF THE LANDSCAPE. HOW DO YOU SEE THE PDB BEING THE VEHICLE FOR MAKING SURE THE PRESIDENT IS KEPT UP-TO-DATE ON WHAT MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE IS WORST TERRORIST ARE CONCERNED?

    MR. CLAPPER: WE FOCUSED A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT ACROSS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND CERTAINLY IN THE CIA ON TERRORISM AND OUR EFFORTS TO COUNTER IT. THIS IS USUALLY COMPLICATED DIMENSIONS IN OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. , MANIFESTED IN THE INTELLIGENCE IN 2004 WHICH CREATED THE POSITION OF DNI. IT ALSO, IMPORTANTLY, REPRESENTED THE MARRIAGE, IF YOU WILL, OF BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC INTELLIGENCES, SOMETHING WHICH HAVING GROWN UP IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY I HAVE LEARNED THE FIREWALL, IT ALWAYS PREVAILS FOR FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC INTELLIGENCES. NOW WE HAVE TO MARRY THOSE TWO UP THE BEST WEEKEND. WE HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE A LOT WONDER, IT IS MORE MATURE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE MADE GREAT PROGRESS IN LINKING OUR FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE CAPABILITIES WITH RESPONSIBILITIES TO SUPPORT LOCAL, TRIBAL, STATE, PRIVATE SECTOR. IT ACTUALLY IMPOSES A PERHAPS GREATER BURDEN ON THE PDB GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS THE PRESIDENT HAS IN THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO BS A SAINT — SUSTAINCT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BUT TO KEEP THE INSIGHTS THAT WE HAVE ON INDIVIDUAL PLOTS AND HOW THEY AFFECT THIS COUNTRY. REGRETTABLY, YOU KNOW, PDB ARTICLES ON TERRORISM BEGAN TO APPEAR DURING THIS PERIOD. I FOUND IT FRANKLY CHILLINGLY HAUNTING TO READ THOSE ARTICLES WHICH TALKED ABOUT THE SAME FORCES WE WERE CONTENDING WITH. , ALSO REGRETTABLY WE WILL BE IN THE BUSINESS WITH SUPPRESSING TERRORISTS FOR SOME TIME TO COME. THAT POINTS OUT, HIGHLIGHTS, EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT PORTRAYED AS ACCURATELY AND COMPLETELY AS POSSIBLE IN THE PRESIDENT’S DAILY BRIEFING.

    MR. BRENNAN: THE COUP THAT TO THE AUSTRIAN DEATH WAS A PROMINENT EVENT DURING THIS TIME. AT THAT TIME, WE HAD STARK SEPARATION INSIDE THE CIA BETWEEN ANALYST IN OPERATION OFFICERS. THE ANALYSTS WERE WRITING PDB AT THE TIME WERE UNAWARE OF ALL OF THE COVERT ACTION. AS YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE AN EFFORT TO BETTER INTEGRATE THE CAPABILITIES, SO THAT OUR COLLECTORS AND ANALYSTS AND TECHNOLOGIES ARE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER MORE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY. DO YOU WORRY AT ALL ABOUT ANALYTIC OBJECTIVITY AND INTEGRITY AS A RESULT OF THIS PROCESS?

    MR. CLAPPER: NO, I DO NOT, AT ALL. IN FACT, ONE OF THE FEATURES OF THE PROVISION IS A REQUIREMENT THAT MY OFFICE HAVE AN ANALYTIC INTEGRITY OFFICE WHOSE OMISSION IS TO ASSESS AND MONITOR ANALYTIC INTEGRITY THROUGHOUT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. WE DO THAT THROUGH A NUMBER OF MECHANISMS INCLUDING SURVEYS AND ANALYSTS WHICH ARE ANONYMOUS. EVERY YEAR, THOUSANDS OF ANALYSTS RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONNAIRES ABOUT OBJECTIVITY AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL PRESSURED. AN IMPORTANT QUESTION IS WHETHER THEY HAD AN OUTLET OR DID THEY ACHIEVE A SATISFACTORY OUTCOME WHEN THEY SAW HELP FROM MANAGEMENT? WITH SPECIFIC RESPECT TO WHAT JOHN HAS MENTIONED WITH THE TRANSFORMATION OF MODERNIZATION WHICH BASICALLY CALLS FOR THE AMALGAMATION OF ANALYSTS AND COLLECTORS IN THE SAME ORGANIZATION, WHICH I STRONGLY SUPPORT, ONLY BECAUSE IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON STRENGTHENING THE AGENCY, BUT IT HAS A TREMENDOUS SPILLOVER AND INFLUENCE ON THE BEST OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. MY MANTRA DURING MY SIX YEARS HAS BEEN “INTEGRATION. ” THAT IS WHAT THE 9/11 COMMISSION SAID WAS NEEDED AND THAT HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO THE LAW THROUGH THE RIROTPA. THE FACT THAT ANALYSTS AND COLLECTORS WORKED TOGETHER DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANALYTIC INTEGRITY IS IN ANY WAY COMPROMISED. I WOULD COMMENT THAT WHAT JOHN HAS DONE AT THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE CIA IS SIMPLY CONGRUENT WITH THE WAY THINGS OPERATE IN THE FIELD. TODAY, JUST ABOUT ANY EMBASSY YOU GO TO, YOU WILL HAVE OF COURSE A CIA CONTINGENT BUT REPRESENTATIVES FROM MANY OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ARE THERE AND THEY OPERATE AS AN INTEGRATED TEAM, CAPITALIZING ON THE TALENTS AND CAPABILITIES IN CONTRIBUTIONS OF EVERYBODY WHO IS REPRESENTED THERE. ALWAYS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF A CHIEF THAT WEARS A SECOND HAT FOR ME AS THE DNI PRESENTED OF WHO REINFORCES THE CHIEF OF STATION’S ROLE AS THE INTELLIGENCE LEADER AND PROMOTE INTEGRATION, AND THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE CIA. OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ARE DOING THE SAME. THE DIA, NSA ARE IN THE THROES OF ORGANIZATION AND RECONSTRUCTION — RESTRUCTURING THE GREATER THEME OF INTEGRATION. TO BE SURE, TO BE CLEAR, WE DO HAVE TO SAFEGUARD AND REQUIRED BY LAW TO OVERSEE ANALYTIC INTEGRITY. AS WELL, EACH AGENCY HAS AN INDEPENDENT ARM SOMEWHERE IN ITS ORGANIZATION, THOSE PRODUCING INTELLIGENCE PRODUCTS ALSO — WHO ALSO WATCH FOR SAFEGUARDING ANALYTIC INTEGRITY.

    MR. BRENNAN: I WANT TO OPEN UP QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. THE PDB WAS A UNIQUE PRODUCT DURING PRESIDENT FORD AND NIXON. THE ENTIRE U.S. INTELLIGENCE AGENCY IS THE GOLD STANDARD WORLDWIDE. A LOT OF FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES SEEK TO EMULATE WHAT THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS DOING IT, HOW WE DO OUR WORK, HOW WE COLLECT, HOW WE ANALYZED BUT ALSO HOW WE PROVIDE THE HEAD OF STATE AND GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH HER GOVERNMENT COUNTERPARTS. — WITH OUR GOVERNMENT COUNTERPARTS. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER SIMILAR TYPE OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES TO THEIR HEAD OF STATE THAT COMES ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE PDB?

    MR. CLAPPER: NO. THERE IS NO OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET THAT IT GOES TO THE LEGNYHS AS WE DO. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ENDEAVOR. IT IS SEVEN BY 24. IT TAKES THE EFFORT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE. NOW EVEN MORE THAN IS REFLECTED HERE BECAUSE IT INVOLVES THE ENTIRE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. MY VIEW IS IT IS A GREAT STRENGTH OF OUR SYSTEM. OTHERS HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND I THINK MADE SOME EFFORT TO HAVE SOME SYSTEM FOR INFORMING THEIR HEAD OF STATE, BUT I KNOW NO ONE THERE GOES TO THE LENGTHS WE DO.

    MR. BRENNAN: LET’S OPEN IT UP. WE ARE GOING TO GET RIGHT INTO QUESTIONS. I AM GOING TO DO ONE QUICK COMMERCIAL. THIS IS CIA WEEK AT THE NIXON LIBRARY. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THESE TWO GREAT GENTLEMAN ON STAGE, BUT TOMORROW EVENING WE HAVE DAVID PREECE WHO WILL TALK HIS BOOK “THE PRESIDENT’S BOOK OF SECRETS” WHICH CHRONICLES THE DAILY BRIEFINGS FROM KENNEDY ALL THE WAY UP TO OBAMA. PLEASE GO ONLINE AND GO AHEAD AND SIGN UP AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU BACK HERE TOMORROW NIGHT. THE FIRST QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL DAILY BRIEFINGS REGARDING RESIDENT NIXON’S TRIP TO CHINA AND THE INFLUENCE IT HAD?

    MR. CLAPPER: WELL, ACTUALLY I CANNOT SAY MUCH ABOUT IT BECAUSE AS I SAY, I WAS A YOUNG PUP AT THE NSA AT THE TIME. I THINK THE PDB IN THE RUN-UP TO THE, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WERE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT INTERESTS OUTSIDE THE PDB BECAUSE IT WAS CERTAINLY A TREMENDOUSLY HISTORIC EVENT AS WE WERE REMINDED DURING OUR TOUR TODAY. IT “RESET” THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA, AND THE LEGACY CONTINUES TODAY. I THINK PDB TREATMENT IN THE RUN-UP SERVED AS A TUTORIAL, IF YOU WILL, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS RECEIVING INPUTS FROM OTHER SOURCES, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, SECRETARY OF STATE, BEYOND WHAT WAS IN THE PDB. >> DIFFERENTLY WAS A SEMINAL EVENT THAT CONTINUES TO RESONATE TO THIS DAY.

    MR. BRENNAN: PRESIDENT OBAMA IS LEAVING FOR CHINA NEXT WEDNESDAY ATTENDING THE G 20 SUMMIT OUT THAT. PRESIDENT NEXTIXON’S TO GO TO CHINA WAS SIGNIFICANT AND IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW TO KEEP SECRETS BEFORE SOMETHING TAKES PLACE. THIS IS PART OF THE LEXICON, SOMETHING THAT WILL REFERENCE UNEXPECTED AND NEEDING TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS TAKEN SUCH A STRONG LINE ON AN ISSUE TO TRY TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEMS AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES. UNLESS WE HAD THE OPENING BAND, I THINK THE COURSE OF EVENTS — OPENING THEN, I THINK THE COURSE OF EVENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH DIFFERENT. PRESIDENT NIXON DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT TO RECOGNIZE CHINA AS A GLOBAL PRESENCE, GLOBAL POW ER, AND WE NEEDED TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE THAT CAN SOMETIMES BE TENSE BUT INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE. >> THE NEXT QUESTION, BACK OF THE ROOM TO YOUR RIGHT, GENTLEMEN. ALL OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, CLAY BAXTER. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, WHAT CONTRIBUTION TO THE PRESIDENTIAL DAILY BRIEFING COMES FROM THE MILITARY?

    MR. CLAPPER: WELL, TODAY, THE, AS I INDICATED, ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT IS OCCASIONED BY THE TERRORISM PREVENTION ACT WAS THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE ENTIRE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. THE ARM FOR THE MILITARY IS THE DEFENSE AGENCY AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WHICH WILL SERVE AS A DRAFTER, PARTICULARLY ON ARTICLES, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, DIRECT MILITARY REFERENCE. DIA IN TURN CAN DRAW ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHICH INCLUDES THE INTELLIGENCE ARMS AND ARMS SERVING THE COMMAND. MILITARY PLAYS A PROMINENT PART OF THE PROCESS, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF OPENING IT UP, THE PREPARATION OF THE PDB TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.

    MR. BRENNAN: MOST OF THAT FALLS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE AGENCIES, NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY, OTHERS IN THE INTELLIGENT SERVICES OF THE VARIOUS SERVICES. THERE IS REGULAR INPUT FROM ALL OF THEM. THEY SHARE REPORTING. OBVIOUSLY THE UNITED STATES MILITARY IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, SO WE GET RELATIVE — SO BEGIN REGULAR REPORTS. >> BACK TO THE RIGHT, GENTLEMEN. >> YOU MENTIONED GENERAL WESTMORELAND, SOMETIMES SEEMING TO GET LOST IN THE WEEDS, AND THE INFLUENCE OF PRESIDENT NIXON . WE ALSO KNOW PRESIDENT KENNEDY HAD HIRED SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FROM BEFORE COMPANY TO STREAMLINE THE MILITARY, ETC. MY QUESTION, DO YOU THINK THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO BALANCED OUT NEXT NIXON’S VIEW?

    MR. CLAPPER: WELL, THAT IS PROBABLY A TAKE-HOME QUESTION. [LAUGHTER] MR. CLAPPER: I REALLY CANNOT SAY WHETHER, HOW MUCH THAT INFLUENCED THE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME. IT DID SEEM TO ME, AND MOORE OF A CONTEMPORARY OBSERVATION, THAT WE DID GET AWFULLY DEEP INTO FA CTS AND STATS, BODY COUNT, HOW MANY VIET CONG, NORTH VIETNAMESE WERE KILLED, HOW MANY WERE FLOWN, HYUNDAI BOMBS WERE DROPPED — HOW MANY BOMBS WERE DROPPED? THAT IS WHAT GENERAL WESTMORE THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT AT THE TIME. I CANNOT SAY TO WHAT EXTENT THE PREOCCUPATION WITH DETAILS, NUMBERS, STATISTICS HAD A VARY ON THE PRESIDENT. I GUESS IT DID, BUT I CANNOT ANSWER THAT SPECIFICALLY.

    MR. BRENNAN: MANY TIMES JIM AND I FOUND OURSELVES IN THE WHITE HOUSE ROOM AND WERE PUMMELED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SITUATION. WE WOULD LOOK BACK-AND-FORTH AT EACH OTHER, WHO HAS THE ANSWER AND WHO TAKES THIS IS A TAKE-HOME ANSWER.

    MR. CLAPPER: JUST LIKE WE ARE DOING NOW. [LAUGHTER]

    MR. BRENNAN: THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS A REPOSITORY FOR THOSE FACTS. POLICYMAKERS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND MAKING SENSE OF VERY CONFUSING, COMPLEX SITUATIONS WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH INPUT AS POSSIBLE AND THEY DO LOOK AT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE THEM THAT INSIDE.

    MR. CLAPPER: I DO THINK, SOMETHING JOHN SAID THAT I WILL KEY IN ON, WHILE INTELLIGENCE IS, WE THINK, IT IS QUITE IMPORTANT AND WE TRY TO TEE IT UP FOR POLICYMAKERS, THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF ACCEPTING OR REJECTING IT OR BITING INTO SOME OF IT OR NOT OF IT OR DRAWING OTHER SOURCES. THAT IS THEIR OPTION. AND SO, GAUGING TO WHAT EXTENT A GIVEN PIECE OF INTELLIGENCE WILL INFLUENCE POLICYMAKERS — MOST OF THEM ARE DRAWING ON MANY SOURCES FOR INFLUENCE INTO THEIR DECISION CALCULATING. >> THE PATENT FOCUS ON DETAILS –PATTON FOCUS ON DETAILS?

    MR. CLAPPER: HE DID. YES, JOHN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS EVENT. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR CA DIRECTOR MR. BRENNAN — CIA DIRECTOR MR. BRENNAN. THEY WERE REPORTS THAT THEY HAD INFILTRATED DIANNE FEINSTEIN’S E-MAILS. THERE WAS ALSO A CIA REPORT THAT STATED SUCH APPLICATION DID OCCUR. CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY THIS FOR US?

    MR. BRENNAN: I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE PDB RELEASED TODAY, QUITE FRANKLY. I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE CARRIED OUT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE HAD AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE SECURE AND WE FOUND OUT THERE WAS SOME VULNERABILITY, WE CARRIED OUT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO INVESTIGATE THAT, AND IT WAS FULLY INFORMING THE SENATE ABOUT IT, AND SOME BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COME OUT FROM THE PRESS THAT ARE NOT EXACTLY A REFLECTION OF REALITY, AND SO I STAND BEHIND WITH THE CIA DID DURING THAT TIME, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF EXPLAINING OUR WORK AT THE TIME WITH WHAT WE GET IT TO THE CONGRESS IN THEM A FULL REPORT, SO I CAN SLEEP COMFORTABLY, VERY COMFORTABLY AT NIGHT.

    MR. CLAPPER: I STAND BEHIND THE. AT. >> THE CENTER SECTION JUST TO YOUR LEFT, GENTLEMEN. >> MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER IN MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION? DO YOU USE E-MAILS? THAT IS THE FIRST QUESTION. THE SECOND PART OF THAT, WHEN YOU SEND AN E-MAIL OR RECEIVED AN E-MAIL DO YOU KNOW WHETHER IT IS CLASSIFIED OR NOT ?T? THE LAST PART OF IT, IF YOU THINK IT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR NATIONAL SECURITY AND IT IS LINKED INTENTIONALLY –LEAKED INTENTIONALLY OR BY ACCIDENT, DO THINK THAT WILL HARM SECURITY AND THEREFORE ILLEGAL? [LAUGHTER]

    MR. BRENNAN: JIM AND I CAN TO MITIGATE REGULARLY IN A NUMBER OF WAYS, PHONE CALLS, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE VIETNAM DAYS TALKING AS BUDDIES. WE DO COMMUNICATE IN DIFFERENT FACTION — FASHIONS. U.S. INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS ARE DIFFERENT MEANS IN TERMS OF E-MAILS, UNCLASSIFIED E-MAILS THAT WE SEND TO ONE ANOTHER AND THEN THERE ARE CLASSIFIED NETWORKS THAT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY REALLY RELIES UPON TO DO ITS WORK, TO MAINTAIN THE DATA AND RICK TAINE — AND RETAIN SEEKERS. WHEN INFORMATION COMES OUT FOR THE PUBLIC, A LOT OF TIMES IT IS DONE WITH VARIOUS PURPOSES AND AGENDAS. ALL OF THE HACKINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE WHETHER THEY BE GOVERNMENT E-MAILS, PERSONAL E-MAILS. I HAVE HAD MY PERSONAL E-MAILS HACKED AND PERSONAL E-MAILS PUT OUT PUBLICLY. THIS IS ONE OF THE REAL CHALLENGES OF OUR COUNTRY, TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE TREMENDOUS CAPABILITIES, UNFORTUNATELY OF THOSE THAT WANT TO DO US HARM. WHENEVER JIM AND I COMMUNICATE, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE PUT ON THE HIGH SIDE AND ON THE LOW SIDE, UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION. WE ALL HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO THAT.

    MR. CLAPPER: ONE OF THE, MY WIFE IS NOT WILDE ABOUT IT, –WILD ABOUT IT, BUT WE DO HAVE SMALL AREAS IN HER HOME WITH THE ABILITY TO COMEDIC IS SECURELY EITHER AT HOME OR ON THE ROAD. IT IS ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT. I AM VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE INAND THE BOND BETWEEN THE CIA AND MY OFFICE. >> NEXT QUESTION, VERY BACK OF THE ROOM, CENTER SECTION. >> HI. YOU SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, AND WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE COME ARE USING THEIR INFORMATION, 10%, 30%, 50% OF THE DAILY BRIEFINGS? MR. CLAPPER: TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE DO NOT KEEP STATISTICS LIKE THAT. IT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY HARD TO DO THAT. I WOULD NOT WANT TO WAGER A GUESS ON WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT WE DRAW ON ANY ONE OF THE QUITE COMMONLY OCCURS IS WE WILL USE SEVERAL SOURCES TO PORTRAY ONE-STORY. IT ISN’T A QUESTION OF IT BEING AN EXCLUSIVELY A CIA ARTICLE OR EXCLUSIVELY IN NGA ARTICLE ONE WE TRY TO DO IS PUT THEM TOGETHER SO WE DRAW ON GEOSPATIAL INTELLIGENCE. THEIR TREMENDOUS CAPABILITIES IN GRAPHICS AND IMAGERY. WE DRAWN AT JAMES — ATTACHES AND THE NSA FOR INTELLIGENCE WHICH WE TRY TO FUSE TOGETHER INTO ONE PRODUCT SO WE SORT OF DON’T TRY TO DO THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF A STATISTICALLY TOUGH THING TO DO AND I AM NOT SURE IT HAS A LOT OF MERIT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TODAY. I HAPPEN TO BE A PART OF THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION. CAN YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE BABY FITS INTO THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR THE DAY. — TPP FITS INTO THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR THE DAY. WHEN I SEE PRESS SHOTS TODAY IT LOOKS TPPHOW DOES IT LIKE PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS MORE PEOPLE THERE EVERY MORNING. WORK YOU? >> EIGHT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE PRESIDENT’S TRAVEL SCHEDULE AND COMMITMENTS BUT THE TYPICAL TIME FOR A BRIEFING IS 10:00 BUT AS I SAID IN HIS CASE WE DO NOT GO IN AND BRIEF THE ARTICLES BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY READ THEM SO WE USE THAT TIME WHICH HE AND HIS ADVISERS ASCRIBE A LOT OF IMPORTANCE TO TO UPDATE IT FROM THE TIME IT WAS CUT OFF AND THAT INCLUDES I AM GETTING UPDATED AS I AM GOING TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO PRESENT THE INTELLIGENCE BRIEFING AND THEN OF COURSE THE WHITE HOUSE HAS ITS OWN ORGANIC WATCH FUNCTION IN THE WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENTS ADVISERS WHO ARE VERY COMPETENT THEMSELVES IN INTELLIGENCE ISSUES, ONE OF WHOM WAS JOHN. THE PRESIDENT IS ATTENDED TO QUITE WELL WEATHER DURING THE PERIOD OF BRIEFING OVER THROUGHOUT THE DAY WHEN THEY ARE BREAKING SITUATIONS. >> A LOT OF IT DEPENDS UPON THE WISHES OF THE INDIVIDUAL PRESIDENT. I WAS A BRIEFER FOR PRESIDENT CLINTON APPE.IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING. THE FIRST PART OF THE SESSION WOULD BE THE BRIEFING. THE PRESIDENT WOULD ASK QUESTIONS OR I WOULD AUGMENTED WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THEN I WOULD LEAVE TO TALK ABOUT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THESE INTELLIGENCE ISSUES? THE SAME THING HAPPENS TODAY. THE PRESIDENTS ADVISERS SAY AROUND. WE WOULD TAKE COPIOUS NOTES WHEN JIM WOULD BE TALKING AND WE WOULD DISCUSS WHAT WE NEED TO DO , WHAT TYPES OF PHONE CALLS WE HAVE TO MAKE OVERSEAS. THAT PDB SERVES AS — >> I THINK JOHN MAKES A GOOD POINT IF I COULD JUST — AND THAT IS, MANY MANY PRESIDENTS INCLUDING THIS ONE, VERY RIGOROUS ABOUT SEPARATING INTELLIGENCE FROM THE POLICY PROCESS AND SO WHEN WE GO INTO BRIEF THE PRESIDENT, WE HAVE DONE, WE ARE LEAF BEFORE POLICY DELIBERATIONS AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT >> IT IS THE RIGHT FORMULA. >>WE AVOID ADVOCATING FOR POLICY COURSES BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO DO THAT I THINK IT REALLY WOULD, TO QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ANALYSIS AND OVER AND ASSESSMENTS BECAUSE WE COULD BE TAILORING THINGS IN SUPPORT OF A CERTAIN POLICY COURSE AND SO WE — EITHER IN THE OVAL SESSION OR THE WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I HAVE A QUESTION AFTER GIVING INTELLIGENCE BRIEFINGS MYSELF IN IRAQ AND WE HAD SOME INACCURACIES. DID YOU DISCOVER LATER THAT THAT WAS NOT TOO ACCURATE? >> DOUG HAS, I HAVE NOT. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE NEVER REPRESENTED — 100% RIGHT ON THE TIME. WE ARE NOT. I HAVE MADE ERRORS IN THE COURSE OF MY BRIEFINGS IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND I WAS QUICK TO CORRECT THEM. AND BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FROM THE CREDIBILITY STANDPOINT. SOMETIMES YOU DIDN’T HAVE THE FACTS. THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS THAT CAN HAPPEN. YOU ARE DOING THIS ON A FAIRLY TIGHT TIME SCHEDULE AND YOU ARE TRYING YOUR BEST TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE — ERRORS ARE GOING TO OCCUR BUT WE WEREN’T ALWAYS I THINK CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE CORRECTED THEM. >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM JEAN HERNANDEZ. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING TO YORBA LINDA. KNOWING YORBA LINDA POLITICS, I AM SURE YOU ARE IN A POLITICAL SITUATION. I CONVINCED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, SOME STAFFER WILL TRY TO SAY, YOU DO NOT WANT TO BRIEF THE PRESIDENT ON THAT. WHEN THAT OCCURS, DO YOU SAY, THANKS, BUT NO THANKS? >>

    I AM PLEASED TO SAY THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN. I CANNOT THINK OF A CASE WHERE SOMEBODY SAID FOR A SUBSTANTIVE REASON, THAT IS BAD NEWS. I DO NOT RECALL AN OCCASION FOR THAT. I THINK THAT IS A HOLY WRIT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL OF INTELLIGENCE , KNOWING TRUTH IN POWER NO MATTER HOW UNWELCOME OR THAT TRUTH MAY BE.

    >> I HAVE BEEN A PARTICIPANT IN SOME INTENSE DISCUSSIONS AS A BRIEFER WHERE THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT OVER THE INTELLIGENCE AND MAYBE SOMETIMES THE READER — THOSE ARGUMENTS ARE VERY HEALTHY BECAUSE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE ASSISTING THE PRESIDENT, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PRESIDENT GETS THE BEST INTELLIGENCE POSSIBLE AND SO SOMETIMES THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT TAKE PLACE REALLY HELP TO REFINE AND MAKE THE BRIEFING THAT ARE.

    >> NEXT QUESTION, BACK OF THE ROOM.

    >> THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. VERY PLEASED TO HAVE YOU. I SPOKE TO ADMIRAL ROGERS PREVIOUSLY AND THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF CYBER DEFENSE AND HE OFTEN TALKS ABOUT THE IDEA OF A CYBER PEARL HARBOR AND NOW WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT AS WELL AS THE KINETIC ISSUES THAT CONFRONT US AS WELL. THIS PAST WEEK, WE APPEARED TO HAVE A CYBER PEARL HARBOR IN WHICH THE NSA WAS HACKED AND ALL OF ITS INFORMATION THAT SHOWS EVERYBODY ON THE INTERNET HOW TO GET INTO THE BACK DOOR OF THE NSA OR THE TOOLS WITH WHICH THEY USE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION ABOUT OUR ENEMIES AND/OR OUR FRIENDS — HOW BIG AN ISSUE IS THIS? HOW MONUMENTAL HACK IS THIS? IF YOU ARE GIVING THE PRESIDENT THE BRIEFING, TO WHAT EXTENT DO YOU COVER THIS ISSUE?

    >> THIS IS A BOTHERSOME DEVELOPMENT. I DO NOT KNOW IF I WOULD CALL IT A CYBER PEARL HARBOR. OTHERS BEFORE ADMIRAL ROGERS HAVE SPOKEN TO THIS POSSIBILITY. THE FORMER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, MIKE MCCONNELL, HAVE ALL SPOKEN ABOUT THE NOTION OF A CYBER PEARL HARBOR. WHEN I THINK OF THAT, I THINK OF A MASSIVE CYBER ATTACK ON THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FINANCIAL SECTOR, ELECTRICAL SYSTEM — THIS IS WHAT COMES UP AS A SO-CALLED CYBER PEARL HARBOR. THE CASE THAT YOU BRING UP IS A SERIOUS ONE. WE ARE STILL SORTING THIS OUT. I THINK CHRIS INGLIS OF THE NSA SAID IT BEST WHEN HE SAID, WE HAVE TO MARCH ON AND RECOVER FROM THIS. GIVEN THE CONTEMPORARY PERIOD OF THESE TOOLS THAT WERE THE IN 2013, AS A RESULT OF PRESIDENTIAL GROUP THAT WAS ASSEMBLED AFTER THE EDWARDS NOTED REGULATIONS, WE HAVE A BETTER PROCESS FOR MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT INFORMING PROVIDERS OF A DEFICIENCY, A POTENTIALLY EXPLOITABLE VERSUS THE NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATIONS OF DOING THAT. THAT IS A DIFFICULT PROCESS BUT THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE CONTEMPORARY — THE TIME IN QUESTION THAT IS AT LEAST INDICATED IN THE HACK AND IT IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION. WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY THE EXTENT OF OR THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THE PRESIDENT IS AWARE OF THOSE KINDS OF HAPPENINGS.

    >> IN TERMS OF THE VULNERABILITY OF THIS COUNTRY, TO THESE TYPES OF ATTACKS OR EXPECTATIONS, I THINK IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST SERIOUS ISSUE THAT WE FACE AS A COUNTRY LOOKING FORWARD BECAUSE THIS ENVIRONMENT IS THE NEW DOMAIN THAT MOST HUMAN INTERACTION TAKES PLACE IN AND I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE COME TO TERMS WITH WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN ONE IS MAINLY A PRIVATE SECTOR ENVIRONMENT AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN SAFEGUARD THE PROSPERITY OF THIS NATION WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THAT ENVIRONMENT AND THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY AT THIS POINT TO DO CERTAIN THINGS IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OR PRIVACY, OVER CIVIL LIBERTIES? THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF ISSUES IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT AND HOW CAN TECHNOLOGY HELP OR HURT THAT GOVERNMENTS ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT IT IS — AND SO, THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS FOCUSED ON THIS IN THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO TAKE THIS UP EARLY ON AS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT THEY WILL GRAPPLE WITH. >> GENTLEMAN ON THE RIGHT WALL.

    >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. MY QUESTION IS SIMILAR. I HEAR THAT CYBER TERRORISM IS OUR BIGGEST THREAT AND HOW IT CAN AFFECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

    >> I AM ALWAYS RELUCTANT TO GRADE THREATS. WHICH ONE IS THE MOST SERIOUS AND PRIORITIZE THEM. THE REASON FOR THAT IS, WE DO NOT GET A PASS ON ANY OF THEM. THE SCENARIO YOU SUGGEST IS A SCARY ONE AND I THINK I CAN PROBABLY CONJURE OTHER SCARY SCENARIOS IN THE BIOLOGICAL WARFARE REALM. WE HAVE TO ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN VIGILANCE AND ANTICIPATE ANY OF THESE SCARY SCENARIOS SO THAT IS CERTAINLY A BAD ONE AND THAT IS KIND OF FITTING THE DEFINITION TO A CERTAIN EXTENT OF WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REFERRED TO AS A CYBER PEARL HARBOR. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT JOHN SAID ABOUT THE WHOLE NATURE OF CYBER WHICH THE CLASSIC TECHNOLOGY OF HAVING A TWO-EDGED SWORD. OUR LIVES ARE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON IT. AT THE SAME TIME, IT POSES A THREAT TO OUR SOCIETY AND OUR WAY OF LIFE AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT SPECIFIC WAYS THAT THREAT COULD MANIFEST ITSELF IS EXACTLY ALONG THE LINES YOU SUGGEST.

    >> AS A MOVE TOWARD HAVING THE INTERNET OF THINGS WHEN EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE CONNECTED TO THAT ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS A NATIONAL DEPENDENCE ON THE VITALITY AND RELIABILITY OF THAT ENVIRONMENT AND I DO NOT MEAN TO IMPLY — THERE ARE OTHER USES OF IT THAT ARE ON PHONE TO THIS COUNTRY. THE POWER GRID, TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, MEDICAL CENTERS RELY ON HAVING THAT RELIABLE CONNECTIVITY IN THAT CYBER DOMAIN AND SO, WHAT I’M SAYING IS THAT WE NOW ARE EXPERIENCING MORE OF ATTENDING LOGICAL REVOLUTION, A LOT OF OUR PRACTICES AND PROCESSES WHICH WERE DEVELOPED IN THE 20TH CENTURY HAVE NOT KEPT UP AND CYBER IS SOMETHING UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE. WE KNOW THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE POLICE ON THE STREETS. WE KNOW WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT IS. WE HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT WHAT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO OPTIMIZE CIVIL LIBERTIES WHILE OPTIMIZING SECURITY WHETHER IT BE NATIONSTATES, ADVERSARIES, TERRORIST GROUPS, OR INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO HACK INTO SOMETHING AND DESTROY IT — THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A NATION NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL VULNERABILITY UNLESS WE TAKE THE STEPS NECESSARY — IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN UNPRECEDENTED PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE PUBLIC SECTOR IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND I BELIEVE THAT THE NATIONAL COMMISSION NEWS TO BE ESTABLISHED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A COUNTRY AND CYBER DOESN’T RESPECT BOUNDARIES, EITHER, SO IT IS ALSO BEEN A WE CAN DO THINK THAT THIS IS THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FUTURE ASIDE FROM ALL THE OTHER ONES — TERRORISM, PROLIFERATION.

    >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. WHO ULTIMATELY DECIDES WHAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE DATA BRIEFING? WHEN THE PRESIDENT REFUSED TO BRIEFING AND HE IS LOOKING AT THE INTELLIGENCE, DOES HE KNOW THAT INTELLIGENCE COMES FROM THE CIA OR SOME OTHER INTELLIGENCE AGENCY? DOES THE PRESIDENT NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY PERSONALLY BRIEFED HIM ON THE DAILY BRIEFINGS OR VISIT HIS PREROGATIVE TO READ THEM WITHOUT — >> HE DOES KNOW THE SOURCES OF EVERY ARTICLE, WHO THE DRAFTER OR DRAFTERS WERE WILL OFTEN HAVE MORE THAN ONE COMPONENT TO WRITE AN ARTICLE AND WHERE HE WAS DRAWN ON, WHAT I DO COMPONENTS. THAT IS REFLECTED AT THE BOTTOM OF EVERY ARTICLE. THE PROCESS FOR SELECTING ARTICLES IS A COLLECTIVE ONE. WE HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF OF PEOPLE WHO DO THIS ON A 24-HOUR BASIS. WE HAVE SEASONED PROFESSIONALS WHO MAKE THESE DECISIONS WHICH GETS A LIGHT TOUCH FROM ME. I TRIED TO STAY OUT OF IT. WE ARE ALWAYS CAREFUL ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE PICK TO MANAGE THIS ACTIVITY. IN THIS CASE, I KNOW PRESIDENT BUSH DID HAVE HIS PROCESS WAS TO READ THE PDB AND HAVE SOMEBODY TO ASK QUESTIONS. THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA USES. WE KNOW HE READS IT BECAUSE OF COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS HE HAS ABOUT IT AND WHEN WE ARE IN THE OVAL WITH HIM, WE EITHER — HE MAY ASK A QUESTION OR GIVE US A TASK FROM AN ARTICLE THAT HE HAS READ AND/OR WE WILL SUPPLEMENT WHAT WAS IN THERE WITH UPDATES SINCE THERE IS A PRODUCTION PROCESS SO YOU HAVE TO CUT IT OFF AT A CERTAIN TIME OR OTHER ITEMS THAT PERHAPS DO NOT MAKE THE THRESHOLD THAT WHICH WE THINK HE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT. AND AS I INDICATED EARLIER THERE ARE OTHERS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. WE ARE NOT THE EXCLUSIVE SOURCE OF INTELLIGENCE FOR THE PRESIDENT WHICH IS A GOOD THING. THIS IS A CRUCIAL ROLE THAT JOHN PLAYED IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND WAS GREAT BECAUSE OF HIS SERVICE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND HE PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT. THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THIS IS CLEARLY A TEAM SPORT. THERE IS THE ENGINE REPRESENTED BY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY TO TURN THIS OUT DAY AFTER DAY BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THAT IS THE EXCLUSIVE SOURCE OF INPUT FOR THE PRESIDENT. >> FREQUENTLY, THEY WILL BE GENERATED BY EXPERTS THAT ARE WATCHING THE SITUATION DEVELOP AND THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT IS TO BE UPDATED ON SOMETHING BUT ALSO, JIM MAY SEE AN ISSUE AND TELL OUR FOLKS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PRESIDENT IS AWARE OF THE CHANGING DYNAMICS AS WELL AS THE RECIPIENTS THEMSELVES. WE WILL SAY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRESIDENT IS UPDATED ON THIS. A LOT OF TIMES, ARTICLES ARE DRAFTED TO COINCIDE WITH MEETINGS OR TRAVEL, SO HE IS GOING TO CHINA NEXT WEEK. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS AS FULLY INFORMED AS POSSIBLE. >>ANOTHER FEATURE WAS WHAT WE CALL EXPERT BRIEFS. THE PROCESS IS TO BRING IN A PAIR OF EXPERTS FROM ACROSS THE COMMUNITY TO BRIEF THE PRESIDENT ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC COMMON EITHER HE IS GOING ON A TRIP OR SOME OTHER ISSUE THAT WE THINK HE NEEDS TO BE UP TO SPEED ON SO WE WILL BRING IN THE EXPORTS AND WE HAD SOME WONDERFUL TALENT TO DO THAT. THE PRESIDENT INVARIABLY ENGAGES WITH HIM. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT AND WE USE MANY DIFFERENT METHODS FOR CONVEYING THE INTELLIGENCE. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. MY QUESTION IS PIGGYBACKING ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTION. IS THERE ANY BACKSTOP IN THE PLANS OR AN ELEVATED CONCERN FOR PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT ARE FACING AN ADVANCED THREAT FROM THESE GOVERNMENT STATE AND NATION’S — CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? >> IF YOU MEAN, DO WE TRY TO WARN THEM, THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY YES. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN ENGAGING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO AS WE LEARN — IF WE DO LEARN OF POTENTIAL FOR RIMS — ATTACKS IN WHATEVER FORM IT MAY TAKE AND OF COURSE THE FIRST CHALLENGE THEN IS IF YOU CAN IS ATTRIBUTION — IS IT FROM A FOREIGN SOURCE? AND THEN, WHAT IS IT WE CAN SHARE ON A TIMELY BASIS WITHOUT COMPROMISING SOURCES OR METHODS AND THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR ATTEMPTING TO WARN — FOUR WARNING INDUSTRY AND THE ENTIRE COMMERCIAL SECTOR OF A POTENTIAL THREAT. >> WE HAVE A COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH EACH OTHER, PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER AND HAS THESE THREATS EMERGE AND IF PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANIES ARE UNDER THREAT, THE APPROPRIATE OFFICES WILL BE IN TOUCH. >> OUR NEXT QUESTION IS IN THE BACK ROW, TO YOUR LEFT. >> YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT GETTING THE INTENTIONS OF THE EGYPTIAN ARMY WRONG. CAN YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OR ANECDOTES AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN WHERE YOU SEE THAT THE DAILY BRIEFING WAS PARTICULARLY ON POINT? >> I THINK THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF PLOTS WHICH ARE TERRORIST PLOTS WHICH WE GET ONTO, GET SOME INSIGHT INTO — I CAN’T — I’M NOT — I CAN’T — I WON’T STIPULATE PARTICULAR EXAMPLES OR HOW WE KNEW ABOUT THEM BUT THERE HAS BEEN MANY OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN THWARTED BECAUSE OF WORK OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AT LARGE WHICH I COUNT AS A SUCCESS. THAT IS OFTEN THE CASE HEARD WHERE WE ALSO DO VERY WELL IS WHEN THE PRESIDENT HAS FOREIGN ENGAGEMENTS AND IN PREPARING HIM FOR WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, WHAT IS ON THE MIND OF HIS FOREIGN COUNTERPART, THAT SORT OF THING. AGAIN, DO NOT WANT TO GO INTO SPECIFICS BUT THOSE ARE TWO EXAMPLES WHERE I THINK IT HAS WORKED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN MOST SUCCESSES ARE STILL SECRETS BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE INTELLIGENCE THAT A COUNTRY IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND WE GET THAT INSIGHT IN ADVANCE IN THE PRESIDENT WILL TAKE ACTION OR THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN DO TO STOP SOMETHING FROM HAPPENING AND THOSE ARE THE SUCCESSES WHEN SOMETHING DOES NOT GO OFF THE RAILS WHETHER IT BE A TERRORIST ATTACK OR INVASION AND IF THAT INSIGHT IN ADVANCE OF THE SITUATIONS THAT REALLY THE PRESIDENT IS LOOKING FOR THAT ADVANTAGE — AND, WE KNOW OF MANY INSTANCES OVER THE COURSE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT BUT A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE AT THE SENIORMOST LEVELS OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT ALLOW THEM TO STOP A PERFORATOR FROM REQUIRING A CERTAIN TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY OR FRUSTRATING SOME EFFORTS ON THE PART OF TERRORISM TO MOVE FINANCES OR MATERIAL. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS. SOMETIMES WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF SUCCESS RATE ON THESE ISSUES BUT I AM PROUD OF WHAT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND THE CIA HAS DONE TO KEEP THE COUNTRY SAFE. >> OUR NEXT QUESTION COMES TO US LIVE FROM TWITTER. HAVE WE ACHIEVED ORDINATION AND INTEL SHARING CAPABILITIES FROM AGENCY TO AGENCY TO AVOID INTELLIGENCE BLIND SPOTS? >> I THINK THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND I THINK IT IS A JOURNEY, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE THROUGH WITH BY NEXT FRIDAY. IT IS THE REASON WHY THE POSITION I OCCUPY WAS ESTABLISHED. IN MY DOTAGE, I CAN UNEQUIVOCALLY SAY THAT WHEN I THINK BACK 50 YEARS AGO AND THE WAY INTELLIGENCE WAS WHERE CIA AND NSA MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN ON TWO DIFFERENT PLANETS AND IT IS MUCH DIFFERENT NOW. THIS IS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF SOME HARD LEARNED LESSONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH WAS 9/11 AND I THINK THERE IS A DEDICATION THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO WORK AS A TEAM AND TO SHARE AND COLLABORATE. HE MENTIONED OVER FOREIGN PARTNERS — I DO NOT KNOW OF A TIME IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFETIME WHERE WE SHARE AS MUCH WITH FOREIGN PARTNERS AS WE DO TODAY. THERE IS AN OBVIOUS REASON FOR THAT. THAT HAS INDUCED OR STIMULATED A GREAT DEAL OF SHARING. WHAT WE DO WORK AT THE CAUSE THAT IS LARGELY ON A BILATERAL BASIS — MANY COUNTRIES ARE PLEASED TO SHARE WITH US AND DO WILLINGLY AND FREELY. WHEN WE TRY TO PROMOTE IS SHARING BETWEEN OTHER COUNTRIES AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE IN EUROPE GIVEN THE CHALLENGES THEY HAVE AND THEY HAVE CERTAIN OBSTACLES, BOTH LEGAL AND OTHERS, THAT PREVENT FREE SHARING AS MUCH AS THEY MIGHT LIKE. I DO THINK WE HAVE COME A LONG WAYS IS 9/11 BUT THAT IS NOT A SAY THAT THERE IS — NOT TO SAY THERE IS A LOT WE CAN DO. >> CONNECT MANY DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES, MANY DIFFERENT AUTHORITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND BE ABLE TO MOVE THE INFORMATION AND PULL DATA SETS OUT THERE SO YOU CAN MOVE THE INFORMATION IN HAND IN PEOPLE AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT. SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN, WE CAN GET INTELLIGENCE IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE WORLD THAT WOULD HAVE IMPORTANCE SPEAKING OF A WINDOW. HOW DO YOU MOVE THAT VERY QUICKLY TO THE SYSTEM? YES NATIONAL, STATE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THE COP ON THE STREET. I THINK AMERICANS WOULD BE IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THE COUNTRY IS DONE WITH AMERICANS LIKE YOU THAT WORK IN DIFFERENT PUBLIC-SECTOR AREAS, WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT COMES IN, THE DATA, WE ARE BEING OVERWHELMED, NOT JUST DATA SECRETLY BUT ALSO THAT DATA AVAILABLE IN OPEN SOURCES. HOW DO YOU INTERACT TOGETHER? PUTTING TOGETHER THAT SYSTEM HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. I WILL GIVE JIM CLAPPER ADDITIONAL CREDIT HERE FOR HIS ORCHESTRATION OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE WE ATTRACT IS OPTIMALLY AS WE CAN. THERE IS IN ENGINEERING ISSUE HERE, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU INTERACT AS DIRECTLY AS POSSIBLE. CARDS WITH TIME FOR TWO MORE QUESTIONS. I WANT TO REMIND YOU WE HAVE DAVID TOMORROW NIGHT AT 7:00 P.M.. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND. OUR SECOND TO LAST QUESTION. >> I AM WONDERING IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE, THE PRESIDENT-ELECT, AND THESE SITTING PRESIDENT. >> NOT A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE. WE ARE IN THE THROES OF THAT RIGHT NOW. THIS YEAR WAS MORE MEDIA ATTENTION IN CONTROVERSY VAN EVER. SINCE WE STARTED THIS IN 1952. SO, THE BRIEFINGS FOR THE CANDIDATES ARE PROBABLY A BIT MORE GENERAL, MORE TOPICALLY IN VOCUS AND DO NOT GO INTO OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS OR COVERT ACTION OR ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF SENSITIVE ISSUES. AFTER THE ELECTION, WHEN THE PRESIDENT-ELECT IS KNOWN, THEN IT IS PRETTY MUCH A PARALLEL SO THAT THE ONCOMING PRESIDENT IS ESSENTIALLY GETTING FOR THE MOST PART, THE SAME AS THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STRENGTH OF THIS COUNTRY THAT WE DO THIS AND OF COURSE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, AS ALWAYS, ATTEMPTS TO DO THIS IN AS A POLITICAL A FASHION AS POSSIBLE. BUT THE OBJECTIVE IS TO DO OUR PART TO ENSURE AND SMOOTH THE TRANSITION AND HANDOFF. >> ONE LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE TURNED THE MICROPHONE BACK OVER TO JOE LAMBERT IN CLOSING. >> I AM CURIOUS, HOW MANY NANO’S DOES IT TAKE TO — MAN-HOURS DOES IT TAKE TO PRODUCE A PRESIDENTIAL BRIEF?

    MR. CLAPPER: I REALLY DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE IT IS A SITUATIONAL INTO ARTICLE-DEPENDENT. MANY TIMES ARTICLES TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF RESEARCH. WE OCCASIONALLY DO WHAT WE CALL STANBACK FEATURES WHICH ARE LONGER, TAKE MORE RESEARCH. SOMETIMES THE COORDINATION PROCESS CAN BE PAINFUL IF WE HAVE DESCENT. WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE. WE REALLY DO NOT KEEP TRACK OF HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES AND IT IS NOT A PROFIT-MAKING SAYING. — PROFIT MAKING THING, SO THERE IS NOT A NEED TO. OUR COMMITMENT IS TO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE THESE PRODUCTS, THESE ARTICLES AS HIGH-QUALITY AS POSSIBLE AND SPEND WHATEVER IT TAKES. >> IT TAKES LESS WOMEN-HOURS THE END MAN-HOURS BECAUSE WOMEN ARE MORE EFFICIENT. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT YOU COULD HAVE A WORLD-CLASS EXPERT PUTTING TOGETHER A DVD OF THEM MIGHT TAKE THEM SIX HOURS TO DRAFT SOMETHING AND ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORKING THROUGH THE SYSTEM. OF THE SIX HOURS OF DRAFTING ARE THE REFLECTION OF MANY YEARS OF INVESTMENT IN UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUES AND THAT EXPERTISE REALLY COMES WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT, SO WHAT WE TRY TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT IS THE ACCUMULATION OF THAT KNOWLEDGE, THAT CAPABILITY, SAID THAT HE GAINS THE FRUITS OF THAT EFFORT SO LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL DRAFTING AND COORDINATION, THAT IS JUST A SMALL PART OF THE INVESTMENT OF TIME THAT GOES INTO PRODUCING QUALITY PRODUCTS. >> PLEASE TRY ME IN THANKING DIRECTOR BRENNAN AND DIRECTOR CLAPPER. [APPLAUSE] >>

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  37. Lucille says:

    Pro-Life Hero: Senator Recovering From Surgery Used Walker Get to Vote for Defunding Planned Parenthood
    BY CORTNEY O’BRIEN MAR 31, 2017 | 9:31AM WASHINGTON, DC
    http://www.lifenews.com/2017/03/31/pro-life-hero-senator-recovering-from-surgery-used-walker-get-to-vote-for-defunding-planned-parenthood/

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  38. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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