Sunday Talks – OMB Director Mick Mulvaney -vs- NBC Chuck Todd…

Strong, concise and direct presentation by Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney today during an interview with Chuck Toad.

The primary topic was, as with all discussion topics today, the failed healthcare reform bill, and Mulvaney outlines the severity of the broken DC system against the backdrop of a UniParty in full revolt against any attempt at swamp draining.  However, that said, Director Mulvaney clearly and concisely outlines how the administration is moving forward toward the next objective, tax reform.

Will the UniParty again seek self-swamp-preservation by destroying any tax reform legislation?  Unless something dramatic happens, the most likely answer is yes.

President Trump needed three legislative items from the Republicans in the House and Senate to assist the America-First economic platform:

Χ 1.) ObamaCare RepealBLOCKED

? 2.) Tax Reform – Next Up.

? 3.) Budget – Not Yet Scheduled

I have a suspicion the DC Uniparty and all factions therein will block all three of President Trump’s legislative requests.

However, if President Trump will give the Freedom Caucus, Republicans and Democrats (UniParty) the immigration Amnesty legislation their special interest control agents demand – and drop the proposal to build the Southern Border wall – they will allow him to advance the three items again in 2018 with a promise of passage.

This looks like the approach from DC via the real legislative control agents in the Big Club.

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154 Responses to Sunday Talks – OMB Director Mick Mulvaney -vs- NBC Chuck Todd…

  1. Ken Lawson says:

    Thanks Sundance for “getting it.” Too many people here on CTH don’t seem to understand that most of those in Congress are against Trump and out to derail his agenda. And too many seem to think that Trump has the power to just override them. They don’t have a clear understanding of our type of government or that there are 3 separate co-equal branches. Maybe you need to post some articles on how our government is structured, how it works, and just how much power the president does and doesn’t have.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      Most are RINOs and Nevertrumpers. The key is exposing their lies in the open. Notice the open hearings are lacking. Ryancare was locked in the basement. Tax cuts and banking reform should find a majority.

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      • trapper says:

        RINOs, nevertrumpers, socialist democrats. and some holdover old line democrats. The trick is dividing them up, peeling off enough votes from each group to get legislation passed. Come to think of it, that’s exactly how Trump won the election. He didn’t rely on Paul Ryan to count electoral college votes. The Trump team counted them themselves. So, do the same thing here with House votes. This doesn’t have to be that hard.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          I agree.

          The Maureen “Where’s my Bottle?” Dowds are slurring “Give up, Donald! You can’t win!” Yeah. Well, they can GTH. They have said the same thing all the way along.

          We need to recall that the LAST American Revolution was not easy. It was much harder than what we are up against now.

          http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/24/odonnell-hillbilly-justice-how-the-battle-of-kings-mountain-changed-the-course-of-the-revolution/

          The American Revolution endured defeat after defeat, and the British and loyalists were turning it around, four or five years into the fight. But then, the hillbillies said “enough is enough”, and began kicking ass, in the bloodiest and most horrifying fights of the war. And that is what we’re gonna do. Make them scream for it to stop.

          I will not quit until Hillary and Podesta themselves call us monsters, barbarians, and subhuman scum. Until Merkel curses Americans, and compares us to the Black Plague. Until Chinese globalists curse globalism with as much sorrow as they do the Cultural Revolution.

          And all of America except the crooks and the liars – enjoy an America where the people actually have a voice.

          Over? No, it’s not over. And it won’t be over until globalists are given the boot, and regarded as the anti-freedom scum they are.

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          • Katherine McCoun says:

            Heck yea! Great post! I figure my job is to put pressure on our hfc member so he is with Trump from now on. If he can vote fast track tpp he has a record of being willing to compromise. Now, he can’t compromise with an R president? Will be watching closely on budget and taxes!! My family fought at Kings Mtn. Responsible to politically fight to continue the freedom the earned and gifted to us

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          • Hey everybody, re-read that first post by Ken Lawson. He is accusing US, Treepers, of this abysmal ignorance. I can’t believe you smart people missed that! Or did you think he was talking about all of us, except you, of course. You are smart, just like Ken Lawson. The other Treepers are just dumb bunnies.

            Please read it again! He’s not talking about “other people.” He’s talking about YOU.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              I read it the same as you did, but no worries. He’s right, actually. Even I had to tell my wife that, no, Trump can’t make law on this, and that his efforts are largely ceremonial. He can sign or not sign, and not signing can even be overridden.

              Although my wife had such choice words for Paul Ryan, that – well – they don’t bear repeating. 😉

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      • mcclainra says:

        Far too many of both!

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      • LibertyVibe says:

        SO, in otherwords…they will give him his financial agenda, if he is willing to trade our personal safety. These people,(especially the “Freedom Caucus”) are sick, duplicitous scumbags.

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    • FofBW says:

      In a perfect world Ken Lawson you are correct. However, there is a great imbalance with the Uniparty in place. So there are not “co-equal” branches at this time IMO. President Trump has to bring this balance back by cutting off the roots of the Uniparty. He knows who they are.

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      • Ken Lawson says:

        I didn’t say the system was working, but my point was that so many people think that Trump can act as a king or dictator and just do as he pleases. He is restricted by the Constitution and so many people don’t understand that nor what his actual power is. As a result we see people constantly saying things about what Trump should do that are not just impossible, they are illegal.

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        • I think the people here understand how our government works… They may not like it when when bad legislation gets halted, but that’s how it works. We’re glad RyanCare, PriceCare didn’t get passed because it sucked.

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        • An American says:

          Ken, you mean that President Trump can’t act like the previous White House resident? Game on!

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        • Summer says:

          So far the Judicial branch ILLEGALLY blocked his EO. The Left wing ideology funded by the special interests won.
          The Legislative branch blocked the Health care reform. The Right wing ideology funded by the special interests won (after the Left wing ideology funded by the special interests won in 2009).

          The winner is the special interests. As usual?

          The victim is the regular people. As usual?

          Doesn’t look like the system works for the regular people. Has it EVER worked for the regular people? It claims it does. You know, of the people, by the people, for the people blah blah. Or is it “of, by and for” special interests?
          They all say that Washington is broken. Who broke it?

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          • Joyful Noise says:

            You forget a very important thing. We won the election! Trump is fighting for us and we fight for him. Can you imagine Hillary as President? Can you see it…inauguration with Hillary standing with her right hand in the air…lying. We won’t have to witness that now. Thank God!

            We have been blessed. This battle will not be easy. But look at what happened this weekend with Trump rallies. Those black hooded Antifa ninjas were put in their places. We are winning. Sure, there’s set backs. Make a list of the good things that have happened. There’s plenty!

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        • Trumppin says:

          Thanks to the last 24 years of Presidents getting away with it

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      • mopar2016 says:

        If we had co- equal branches of government there wouldn’t be activist judges stopping the presidents agenda. These politicians are owned by corporations, lobbyists, and others.

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    • repsort says:

      I dunno.. Maybe we’re reading different blogs? I get the feeling that most Treepers definitely understand that it’s Trump against the world.

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    • QuestGirl says:

      After the last 8 years, 4 in particular, it is no wonder, really. Then add Common core into to mix.

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    • gamecock123 says:

      Many of us do get it, we are aware that the Uniparty are globalist hacks. Trillions of dollars are at stake. Got it. Trump has the megaphone and (Twitter) and can take the case directly to the people. He already has exposed sunlight on many,. He won the primary didn’t he? I am optimistic that Trump can and will accomplish what he promised. I don’t know how but I know he is 10X smarter than his opponents…. Now how about them Gamecock’s….Miracles happen everyday eh?

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    • CleanhouseinDC says:

      Many, many (if not most of us) get it. We know that it is the Uniparty angainst President Trump, and by default, against We The People. In fact, that is at the core of why at least some of us didn’t trust that Phase 2 or phase 3 of Ryancare would have ever been executed (btw, perhaps Secretary Price should simply start Phase 2 regardless of Phase 1, and effectively neuter Obamacare once and for all?) POTUS is correct, once Obamacare hard crashes and implodes, both sides will be clamoring to fix it, especially with their 2018 election coming up.

      POTUS can’t rely or trust Ryan to “sell” anything. Since many of us don’t trust him to do the right or even good things for the People or that he supports the Presidnts agenda (the one we all voted for), he cannot be effective in convincing anyone that anything he is doing is good or helpful.

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    • filia.aurea says:

      Condescension is not helpful. I believe more than a few of us understand exactly how our system of government is MEANT to work. Our system is fine. The problem, for all to see, is that of a corrupt Congress, who fail to follow the founding principles of our Republic. Added to this, we have Judges who refuse to follow even the least ambiguous rules of law. The system is not at fault.

      Democrats are defeated, the most destructive forces in D.C. are the neo-cons, technocrats and MSM monopolists who keep slithering around, up and over the swamp. I support my President 100%, as did millions of democrat American patriots. I will not support a single incumbent of either party for re-election. It is time to vote ALL current and former Representatives and Senators out at the first opportunity. It It is the ONLY way we can hope to regain control.

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  2. auscitizenmom says:

    If Trump drops the proposal to build the wall………….he loses all of us.

    Liked by 4 people

    • booger71 says:

      Companies are developing bids as we speak.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      President Trump will never lose me. His speeches and words will live even with all the lies and betrayal. We are America First now and always. We are a Constitutional Republic and many of our representatives are compromised through blackmail and corruption. It is up to us to MAGA!

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    • quintrillion says:

      Any form of illegals getting amnesty is a no and no the alien ‘dreamers’ too. Send them out. So sick of them here. Why is nothing being sone with thousands of visa overstays?

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    • fangdog says:

      What does Trump “lose all of us” to?
      I don’t see anywhere I have the slightest of interest.

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    • truthandjustice says:

      Yes, I was thinking about that one. Doesn’t that have to go through Congress too? That gets complicated too. All I know is if it depends on that, we’ve got a huge problem there too.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        The wall has already been legislated, back when Bush was in office. He just didn’t want to “really” build it.

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        • truthandjustice says:

          Trump’s team believes the Secure Fence Act of 2006 grants him permission to begin constructing a border wall, and he has directed the DHS to use already available federal funding to start the process. That law permits the DHS to “take all actions the secretary determines necessary and appropriate to achieve and maintain operational control over the entire international land and maritime borders of the United States.” It also included approval for “physical infrastructure enhancements,” such as the wall Trump has proposed.

          According to Reuters, DHS has identified $20 million in existing funding that could go toward the project. But he would need billions of dollars in additional funds from Congress to complete it. House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have publicly stated they support providing funding to build a wall. However, Democrats in the Senate are likely to complicate any efforts that would send a bill to President Trump.

          https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-mexico-wall/does-the-wall-need-congressional-approval/

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          • Sentient says:

            The only way the wall gets funded is if Trump grabs congress by the gonads and twists with all of his might until they scream in agony and give in. That means shutting down the government for months, if that’s what it takes. Be prepared to see your social security payments stop, FHA loans being halted, student loans and grants halted, national parks closed etc. When people see congress allow the government to grind to a halt all because they refuse to authorize a lousy $20 billion to build the wall THEY WANT, congress will cry “uncle”. No pain, no gain, no wall.

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    • LKA in LA says:

      President Trump will never lose me because he loves this country as I do. He is doing what he can for CITIZEN’S and that is more than any other president has done in my life time. He gave up his lifestyle to help us, so I am with him to the end. Wall or no wall.

      Btw, I know for a fact he is getting bids on wall. My son works at an engineering firm that is bidding. The owner has met President Trump multiple times according to my son.

      Liked by 6 people

    • Martin says:

      Trump isn’t dropping the proposal to build the wall.

      Liked by 4 people

    • jonvil says:

      What makes you think that is even a remote possibility?

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    • Joyful Noise says:

      Who else will build the wall but Trump? No one else was willing to stand up and tell the truth. No one else stood up against the establishment. It was only Trump. We need to stay strong behind him.

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    • cozette says:

      We need to raise a ruckus that Pence start making sure there is no cheating in 2018. That was the job Trump gave him.

      Liked by 1 person

  3. Publius2016 says:

    Building the wall is non negotiable. President Trump is a builder.

    Liked by 9 people

    • FL_Guy says:

      That’s correct. Bids are already in motion. President Trump isn’t contracting out to Hurricane Fence for a chain link fence, he is contracting for a REAL WALL. That takes some time to get going, much like a skyscraper project, and I imagine construction will start with little publicity. We will likely hear about it from the Enemy Media as they bemoan the construction.

      President Trump has only started his 3rd month of office. What is all this crap about him not doing what he said he would do? He’s working on doing EVERYTHING he said he would do and he’s having to do it pretty much by himself so let’s be supportive. By the end of 4 years, President Trump will have accomplished EVERYTHING he said he was going to do. Where’s the FAITH?

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      • Abster says:

        I agree w you, Fl Guy. President Trump has worked non stop since he took office. He has already accomplished a great deal. Ocare was a set back, but we all need to remain positive and support President Trump. MAGA..it will take all of us!

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      • Sentient says:

        He needs money to build the wall. He’s only going to get it by playing very hard ball.

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  4. Derek of Florida says:

    “However, if President Trump will give the Freedom Caucus, Republicans and Democrats (UniParty) the immigration Amnesty legislation their special interest control agents demand – and drop the proposal to build the Southern Border wall – they will allow him to advance the three items again in 2018 with a promise of passage.” – This!

    Such is the treasonous nature of the donor class and their legislative puppets doing their bidding. After all. their bottom line requires importing cheap labor. The #NeverTrumpers and UniParty Allies are the America Last crowd.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      The operative words here are ……….”promise of passage”. AND, they always LIE.

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    • cozette says:

      Trump will NEVER give up the wall. He would let the people know what they were asking so his supporters could destroy them. Remember 4chan supports Trump. Please don’t worry. P

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  5. Summer says:

    If President Trump would drop the plan to build the Wall, Democrats will have the Senate and the Presidency in 2020.

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  6. trapper says:

    Below is an article in The National Interest with a more conventional analysis of what just happened. My take:

    Paul Ryan’s speakership just crashed and burned. Ryancare pulled the mask off Ryan’s and his GOPe masters’ Better Way scheme and showed it for what it is: tax cuts for the wealthy Uniparty nevertrumpers and a first rate screwing for those of us who voted for Trump. The Republican party is now the party of Trump and we who elected him. Let’s act like it. Can Ryan be rehabilitated, brought into the Trump fold? Who cares? Leave him in place or replace him, no matter. What to do now?

    Now is the time for Pres Trump to assert his leadership in the House. Forget Obamacare fixes for now. Move on to taxes but the tax bill must be written by Trump’s team. No more Ryan bills. Let Mnuchin write it, if he hasn’t already. Write the bill from the White House, put it on the web site, and get friendly congressmen to introduce it. And don’t tell me that’s not the way it’s done. Screw the way it’s done. Do it the Trump way.

    Write the bill so some democrats might co-sponsor it by concentrating the personal tax side on tax relief for the middle class. If they have to leave top end personal rates high to get wide support, so be it. The wealthy backed Ryan, not Trump. They just tried to screw us with Ryancare, so screw them on tax rates.

    Keep it short and simple: reduce the number of brackets, lower rates, lower corporate rates, and do a one-time amnesty on repatriating foreign-parked cash. Done. Leave all the rest alone and don’t try to balance it with deduction eliminations. Hit the high points, be done with it, and move on to immigration, trade, infrastructure and the wall.

    Oh, and when we fiddle with rates and brackets, let’s bring what we consider “middle class” into the 21st Century and bump it to at least $300,000. Hell, in some cities a garbage truck driver starts at $70k before overtime. Put together some young blue collar couples, both working as much overtime as they can get, maybe also tending bar on weekends, trying to save a down payment for a house and start a college fund for the kids that will come, and they can bump up against the $250k that keeps being bandied about. There is no reason in the world that young blue collar couples should pay the same income tax rate as hedge fund guys making $200 million a year. Hell, bump it to half a million, I don’t’ care. Give the blue collar guy some breathing room on the top end to start a business on the side.

    Oh, and while we’re at it. Confirm Gorsuch even if we have to nuke the filibuster in the process. I don’t care. We almost lost the country in this election. Now is not the time for timidity. Attack attack attack.

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-simple-reason-the-gop-health-care-bill-failed-19894

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      I see what you are saying. Only, the Dems don’t care about the middle class. They care about the so-called “poor”, the radicals, and the perverts.

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      • trapper says:

        But they like to claim they do, and the union guys who support them have some say in it. Give them some more free stuff, I don’t care. I’d rather give free stuff to Americans than to illegals, and I’d do it to get the tax bill passed. Oh, and when it comes to immigration, we’ve got a lot of bargaining room with democrats just with dreamers and anchor babies, and the democrats could give a crap about H1b’s.

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      • They care about the so-called “poor”, the radicals, and the perverts.

        NO they don’t.

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    • TPW says:

      while they are at it they can pass having no income threshold to collect SS taxes to save social security also limit who can collect it…………The underhanded stuff that has been done in the dead on night without the people knowledge is disgusting. Taxing SS benefits over a threshold of $25000 a year. My Mother makes $1600 a month out of that they take $229 for insurance and medicare benefits have been cut so much she regularly gets billed for doctor hospitals. Ryan and crew have been taking average person to the cleaners taxing and taking benefits that they can not afford. Mean while immigrants are getting money handed to them for not ever paying in…..when are people going to have enough of this Sh!t……

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    • RickA says:

      I like your attitude Trapper – Attack Attack Attack!!

      How about as a reward for Republican party insolence, President Trump signs a fast executive order FORCING all Federal Government employees, including Congress, to purchase their own health insurance with their own money. No more lavish health care plans for our government elites payed for by the average working stiff taxpayer!!!

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      • Summer says:

        I would support that. They got all kinds of exemptions because the federal employees “could not afford” allegedly AFFORDABLE for the rest of us Obamacare insurance.
        Yes, yes, I do love the idea of EVERY Federal government employee being ordered to sign up on the exchange, preferably with only one “choice” available. A lot of them will quit –> a part of the Swamp will drain itself.

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      • whoseyore says:

        I accidentally hit the “like” button rather than the “Reply” button initially.

        I work for the Federal Government. Does that make me an enemy here on TCTH? I pay $328.00 per month for my health insurance (with “my own money”) for just the Standard insurance. I also have co-pay’s and there are out of pocket charges.

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        • RickA says:

          Whoa Whoseyore – I detect a whiff of defensiveness. Enemy isn’t the right term. You are a fellow citizen and by virtue of your employment have joined a federally created special class of people who enjoy taxpayer subsidized health care at reduced monthly pricing that’s not available to non-federal employees (at least in my state). You’re just a part of a protected class of preferred benefit receivers (along with Congress), not the enemy. Actually, people like me may be considered the enemy by some within your government created group for simply desiring a level-playing field in the world of healthcare costs and benefits.

          Signed: RickA, a self-employed small business owner who dropped out of Obamacare on December 31st 2016, after paying $1420 per/mo with a $13,000 deductible for the entire year of 2016, needing (thank God) only one doctor’s visit (Tetanus shot) paid for with cash out of my wallet.

          When Obamacare rates were raised to $2615 per/mo with a $13,500 deductible for 2017, we dropped out. Now we’re taking our chances and hoping to stay healthy until reaching age 65 and signing up for Medicare (if it exists then).

          P.S. Should I need to close or sell my business and find employment with reasonable costing health care benefits (at age 63) to keep from selling off assets (paid for with after tax money) to raise cash for health care …. just wondering, are they hiring 63 year olds at your branch of the federal government?

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        • nhgardengram says:

          I think we’re talking Congress here, like the Representatives and Senators who have the cadillac plans; not all govt. employees.

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    • mimbler says:

      Interesting isn’t it, that when you don’t have a hidden agenda the answer is pretty simple. I really liked this article,
      Mike

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  7. james23 says:

    Will the UniParty again seek self-swamp-preservation by destroying any tax reform legislation?

    That is a lock. The House Failure Caucus will oppose the Tax Reform because Budget, and will oppose the Budget because too much money. Book It.

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    • blessdog says:

      well – i agree 100 percent that that’s what we’re looking at – what the globalist psychopath agenda is beyond that, none of us regular working citizen type shmoes can say…other than continuing their bid to control EVERY resource on the planet

      the deep state MSM has everything SO hemmed up, it feels pretty futile at the moment –
      that and the insanity of partisan hypnotized division that MOST so eagerly embrace
      but who knows, eh?

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    • scott says:

      I think several members of Congress stated Trumps tax cuts were too much.

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      • cozette says:

        The people who backed Bush over Reagan said the same thing about his tax cuts. Bush mocked it as voodoo economics because Reagan said that by cutting taxes it would actually increase revenue by stimulating the economy. Reagan was right. Bigly. So is Trump.

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  8. FofBW says:

    This is our first REAL test. How do we handle a set back? Who will continue to stand with Trump? Who will accept the gaslighting and psy-ops or stay strong as our President is strong?

    Now is that gut wrenching time to decide!

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    • wyntre says:

      We are with President Trump.

      It’s the back-stabbing treasonous Uniparty that’s not. They made it loud and clear on Friday. To do what they did to the man elected by the American people is brutally perfidious.

      They gave a big FU to President Trump and to all the voters who elected him to implement his agenda!

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  9. repsort says:

    Uniparty would “promise” to allow passage… Heh! Would they pinky-swear it?!

    Trump’s not that stupid. He’d laugh this Uniparty offer out of the Oval Office.. He knows his presidency would be over the moment any deal like that was made. Besides, he’s got too much integrity, I think, to even consider it..

    He promised he’d never ever let us down..

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  10. What happened to all the assholes in the press running around yelling “gridlock, gridlock?”

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  11. Peter says:

    Ok. So say we accept fully that the uniparty is not going to let trump pass his agenda.

    Why wait? Why say it’s the democrats and that some day we will make it better?

    Why wait a day to tweet the real problem? Why not go after the Kochs directly? Why not go to the people every week and talk about how they need to vote the bums out.

    Double down, I say. “Get em out!”

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  12. blessdog says:

    here’s a comment i made at Breitbart (likely one of my last as I’m beginning to clearly recognize the co-intel nature of that site, plus it’s infested with trolls) based on the fine article posted by sundance here “My Final Thoughts on The Failed Healthcare Reform…”

    my comment on Breitbart:
    “the “republicans” (RINO, HFC. w/e flavor) had no more interest in repealing o-care than the “democrats”
    which is why we saw that dog an pony show and why NO VOTE WAS TAKEN
    The HFC ELECTED PAUL RYAN
    the REPUBLICANS FULLY FUNDED obamacare
    we’re witnessing a soft coup perpetrated on the American people by the thug puppet globalist slime in Washington and the deep state MSM
    anyone posting anything else is either drinking Koolaid or co-intel trolling
    my 2 cents”

    regarding taxes and the rest of the “agenda” – it appears as if they are pushing out the charade as far as they can short of instigating full out civil conflict (plan C)

    the more i witness these psychopaths in operation as they become ridiculously brazen and obvious in their manipulation of our little lives, the more i’m “impressed” by the degree of their soul-less reptilian type behavior…

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  13. Giant Ground Sloth says:

    To shut up the HFC, all President Trump has to do is post a tweet demanding that Republicans in Congress pass a repeal of Obamacare. This would expose the fact that they can’t and won’t.

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  14. truthandjustice says:

    Yes, all will be blocked – as I’ve posted also — if things stay the same. Of course – no brainer. It’s “scorched earth…..er…..scorched Trump” or else………….or else their NWO Evil Establishment Empire takes some awfully big hits they can’t afford to take. And in the process, they’re maligning “Conservatives” which is a very big part of his base. There’s much confusion on what that means but they’re using the worst to spin.
    Too many don’t know that HFC are fakes and just doing the bidding of their Puppetmasters and some are really anti-Trump.

    Then we also have veto over ride. If Pres. Trump vetoes, they’ll over ride. They are all in crazed panic mode. Nothing matters except stopping his agenda. Threats of not winning re-election won’t matter because they are not the ones to decide what to vote — they’ll do as told……or else, which would be far worse. Many are blackmailed.
    But….having said all that — it’s only “if things stay the same”. I’m still counting on unexpected, unprecedented events that will change them – via the intervention of God, which I’ve always believed was necessary for victory in the end.

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    • Trump can simply veto any debt ceiling increase congress passes. That would freak the swamp out! What would the HFC say if Trump says he won’t sign any debt limit increase until his budget is approved. That is leverage my fellow Treepers!

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  15. Maybe us Ragtager Trumpites need to make it clear that Nov 2018 is D-Day and there isn’t any capacity for prisoners. (the election in case you’re a bit dull)

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  16. Remember the Iowa primary. The left and right declared Trump DOA. Right before it rammed up their … noses. Hold the line people.

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  17. markstoval says:

    You have a crony-capitalist economic system (Mussolini called it “corporatism”) in place along with a powerful shadow government in the spy agencies. Trump took on the Republican party, the Democrats, and the deep state to win the presidency. He is at war with all the powers that be.

    This will be a long, hard war against those who seek to pervert the American system for their own benefit. Trump will not win every time — hell that is delusional thinking. But I think he can move the government toward having the common man in its interests. If only back to the government as it was in the 80s — that would be a major accomplishment.

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  18. ivehadit says:

    WE WILL DONATE TO BUILD THE WALL IF WE HAVE TO!! Do not give in Pres. Trump, please!!
    If we have to wait for ocare to crash, fine!
    If we have to wait until 2018 (when we vote out the UniP) for a budget, fine!
    Same for tax reform, fine! infrastructure, same! WE WILL WAIT!
    WE MUST DEFEAT THOSE WHO WISH AMERICA HARM!!
    #MEGAcoldANGER!

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      Build the wall
      Enforce the law
      All other issues are secondary
      Border security and enforcing immigration law are top issue

      President Trump has already done too much too loose my loyalty. Focused on next actions of hfc. They have no room to wiggle in future support of President Trump!!

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    • trapper says:

      Give ’em hell, boy!

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  19. bessie2003 says:

    Are we basically watching “the trillions of dollars at stake” people fighting to hang onto their part of the pie, and seeing that part of their plan is to not only see all of the President’s plans fail but to try and turn him into a 1 term President so that they can collectively hoodwink the whole population into believing there is nothing the people can with their ultimate hope everyone just gives in?

    Very disheartening this week, maybe because it’s clearer to me just how big that swamp is.

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    • wyntre says:

      I swear I haven’t felt this sucker-punched since my longtime ex . . . .tried to get me fired from my job by accusing me of all sorts of bizarre behaviors (I was a teacher), stole my car, stalked me for two years and made me pay him for the privilege of divorcing his a$$.

      The only thing that got me through that time was my cold fury and determination that if it was going to be me or him, it was going to be him.

      It was not a fun time.

      😡

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      • bessie2003 says:

        Thanks for sharing. And – Exactly what you’re saying. I am in the process of steeling up my resolve. Enough is enough, cold fury exactly; and if takes 4 or 8 years to set the new way forward, our country is definitely worth it. But it’s been a bummer of a day realizing the depth of swamp.

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      • trapper says:

        That is what Sundance refers to as Cold Anger. Weaponized , frozen, unforgiving.

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  20. bertdilbert says:

    Chuck Todd had a very valid point. 17 day rush. Before Todd brought it up, my feeling was why are we rushing this thing? I hate important legislation that has to be rushed through. You can rush it because you do not want people to see what is in it or you can rush it to fail.

    Maybe we got both.

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    • ediegrey says:

      Umm, Chuck Todd has never had a valid point. Never.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      B//C if Trump agreed to do it the ‘usual’ way, we’d still be dealing w/ Ocare in December and the rest of his key pieces would be lying fallow. That’s the UniParty game, drag things out…delay, obfuscate, obstruct. Mulvaney TOLD the Freedom Caucus NOT to plan on Trump going along w/ the delay tactic. Frankly, as the Senate would rework whatever passed, it was really foolish of the House to refuse to get the process started. IMO, Trump could see the delaying tactic BS for what it was and decided to rip of the bogus bandage of ‘debate’…

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  21. R-C says:

    So, in the first two minutes of this interview, Mulvaney declares “I have no idea” why he was not able to sway the members of his former caucus to support the bill before them.

    My initial thought: “I’m throwing the ‘B.S.’ card on that. NO way that Mulvaney, who advised us that he spent 6 years in the swamp prior to his elevation to the cabinet, has ‘no idea’ why the swamp is the swamp. He KNOWS…but for some reason, won’t say.”

    Then, a bit later, he admits the truth: “Special Interests”. In my view, that’s too bland a term, wrapped in an absolutely FLAT delivery.

    So what’s MY answer to the question posed by the detestable Mr. Toad? “There are BILLIONS at stake. The paid errand boys in congress, who genuflect at the feet of their special interest sugar daddies (and place their allegiance to those shadowy figures above all else), are following their orders in order to keep their place at the trough–to the detriment of their country and its citizens. They have their marching orders, and that’s that.” (If my previous answer was too long, here’s a one-word response: “Craven CORRUPTION in the US Congress”.)

    In my opinion, Mulvaney should have known the depth and the breadth of the corrupt swamp in which he splashed for SIX years. And, Mulvaney should have properly advised the president.

    These errand boys in congress won’t be hopping on the Trump Train. They’ve already got very cushy seats on the Gravy Train.

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  22. Dean Schechinger says:

    Sundance predicted single payer. If so, President Trimp should propose it in such a way that the insurance industry is retained. Under my plan the Federal Government will be the reinsurer for lifetime medical expenses exceeding $250,000. The immediate effect is predictable loss, none of it catastrophic for any one health insurance company. Premium can become predictable to reflect anticipated loss ratio.

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    • I hope Trump doesn’t fall for the ” promise ” routine . That’s D.C. Deception 101 , dopey HW “read my lips , no new taxes ” Bush fell for that one – broke pledge for the “promise” of expidture cuts . yea right , that stupidity lost him his second term and all credibility he had after serving as Reagan’s VP for 8 years . The Dems couldn’t believe how easy it was to get old HW to roll over

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      • cozette says:

        Trump won’t fall for it. He knew Reagan. He saw what happened to Reagan when he was promised that Southern border would be secured if he granted amnesty first. Plus Trump is a brilliant negotiator. He would never fall for such a lame deal. Remember he’s known corrupt politicians, including alot of the ones he’s dealing with now, for years.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      This is a non starter. This is throwing another debt on the backs of the American People. We need less leverage not more. Less insurance the better. The reason it costs so much to see a doctor is the overhead!

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  23. Steve in Lewes says:

    Look, this goes beyond the House. The cold hard fact is the Senate!!
    McCain, Graham, Flake, Collins, Murkowsky (sdc), Rubio (there are others) – they despise PresTrump and will deny him any, ANY success with the hope that anyone running against PDJT will be nominated in 2020 because PDJT couldn’t get anything done. Book it! Especially McCain, Graham, and Rubio since the idiots in those states just re-elected them. Collins and Murkowsky’s little feelings were most likely offended by PDJT’s Billy Bush tape. And Turtle lips McConnell, don’t expect any help from him (such as ending the 60 vote rule; well because he’s a puzzie) Wouldn’t help anyway with the group I just highlighted above. So we will have four years of doing nothing, except what PDJT can do with EO’s. They all will fight him ‘tooth and nails’.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      This is a missed point. Even if Ryancare passed the House it was dead in the Senate. The only thing that will ensure passage of any bill is the light of day. Any bill or conference hidden from the public is where the swamp dwellers live. Notice how the House and Senate intel committees want to hide behind everything. Once we learn the truth, we will support an American First solution. Repealing and replacing Obamacare is very simple: leave it in place for four years for those who want it while putting in place block Medicaid state grants indexed to inflation, nationwide catastrophic insurance like term life, and repeal of Obamacare mandates, committees and taxes. Also, we need scholarships for doctors in exchange for service to hospitals and charities.

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    • trapper says:

      I believe the point some of us are trying to make is that we must stop relying on Republican votes to get things done. Peel off enough Democrats with stuff they want, and the McCains and Grahams could be rendered irrelevant. Start counting all 100 Senate votes, and see what it takes to get 60 of them mixed between D and R. More free stuff for Democrats? OK, if that is what it takes for a new Glass Steagall.

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  24. I am reminded why I never watch Chuck Todd, he is not in search of answers, he is only intrigued by his own questions. His arrogance is in proportion to his ignorance. He has no interest in the people (the citizens) being affected by the present AHCA and that distorts his inquiry.
    The lack of fundamental journalism in the country and on Meet the Press is astonishing.
    It always brings me back to prayer. Corruption and deceit fill our news cycles.
    I sure appreciate this site it’s an oasis in the desert. Thanks for your steadiness and integrity.

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  25. NYGuy54 says:

    Mulvaney’s communication skills are Gorka-like

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    • blessdog says:

      yeah, Mulvaney’s great – when i saw him handle questions at the WH presser last week, i was hoping that Spicer was taking notes (not that SS isn’t doing a great job and it’s gotta be rough facing that crew of miscreants every day)

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    • He is very good. Does a good interview. Like his matter of fact presentation.

      What drives me crazy sometimes about Spicer is that he argues with them…why do that? Answer the question once, then move on. He keeps taking the same question over and over again..he has to learn how to control the ball; he lets the press control it too often.

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  26. jeans2nd says:

    “if President Trump will give…the immigration Amnesty legislation their special interest control agents demand – and drop the proposal to build the Southern Border wall…”

    NO.

    They tried this during the primaries. They failed.
    They tried this during the general election. They failed.

    Best get on board, kids, The Trump Train has left the station.

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  27. JZ says:

    @ 4:48 Chuck quotes Phil Kline and says this is the biggest broken promise that anyones made in political history. HA! WOW! OK!

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    • graphiclucidity says:

      I think that honor goes to President Wilson.

      1916 – “He Kept Us Out Of The War”
      1917 – “The world must be made safe for democracy.”

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  28. With the obvious potential of the CTH membership why havent we group-sourced our own legislation and submitted it?

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  29. ivehadit says:

    Go look at Scott Adams’ twitter to understand Donald Trump. Donald is always prepared and 10 steps ahead of most everyone. 3-D Chess is to easy for him. He makes his moves with very little downside. Same in this case. Long term strategy is WINNING. Wait and see.

    WE LOVE YOU DONALD!!! ALL THE WAY! MORE THAN EVER!!

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  30. Dogstar_K9 says:

    This is pretty much pie in the sky, pipe dream realm but what if President Trump released his tax plan, health insurance plan, border wall plan and infrastructure simultaneously. The Gorsuch nomination as the cherry on top.
    This, of course, have been done by the various Cabinet Secretaries to the various Commitee Chairs. That would have overwhelmed the system.

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  31. HarryJ says:

    My list of annoying characters in MSM has grown during this election year. The top two are now chucky toddy and Jaky Tappery. The Y at the end are for yellow journalism.
    Can anyone explain why trump need to send anybody to these two shows?
    Just going there and let them do their circus.

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    • I would call it a choice. Just an observation from the outside, but to me the President himself seems to prefer television as an information platform. He got famous on TV, he’s comfortable and confident there, and seniors (a core constituency) often don’t use computers as their primary news source. They watch TV. That means sending surrogates to TV shows, and appearing on friendly TV outlets himself.

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  32. fangdog says:

    Trump has often said, “I am the messenger for the American people”. To give-up on Trump is to give-up on oneself. To give-up on oneself is the mark of a loser. There are plenty “losers” with the Democratic Party.

    Define “who” you are and not “what” you are and proceed accordingly. I notice a small number of posters suggest they are not in the correct home.

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  33. jmclever says:

    C.T. asked the question that the electorate needs to wake up and understand the answer to. Why could they pass a bill under Obama but not under Trump. Once the common patriot gets it, that the swamp deeper and more putrid than most can comprehend, there may be some progress made.

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  34. William Ford says:

    The establishment will block the Trump tax reform agenda. You think all Republicans want tax cuts, right? To make Trump a one term president (the establishment goal) they cannot have big economic growth which would make Trump popular. So they have to fins a way to derail the tax cuts/reform. This will be done by having one faction (conservatives) oppose any tax cut that increases the deficit. There position will be no tax cuts unless there are massive cuts to social security and Medicare as well. The moderates will oppose cuts to entitlements as political suicide. Again no bill will pass. Watch.

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  35. osage44 says:

    Another post from sundance reeking of pessimism and surrender. Only 64 days into the Trump presidency and he is moping around his keyboard like someone who just had his dog euthanized.Buck up, sundance. We need you with your A game.

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  36. Heck, Mulvaney sounds like my dentist. “There was a lot more decay in that tooth than I thought at first. Be very careful with this partial filling, the tooth is now very fragile.”

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  37. Mike diamond says:

    One thing we do know chuck Todd can’t solve anything!!! The dude is total fake news!!

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