Vice President Pence Remarks on Flynn’s Turkish Lobbying Revelations…

Wow.  This is really odd.  According to this interview with Vice-President Mike Pence, he only discovered General Flynn’s lobbying connections to Turkey yesterday.

That lack of knowledge seems rather puzzling considering that Pence was in charge of the Transition Teams, including all of the vetting [effective November 11th], and General Flynn was picked as National Security Adviser on November 17th, 2016.

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We wrote about the looming conflict-of-interest issue back when Flynn was announced –SEE HERE- because immediately we saw a problem with Flynn connecting to Turkey and the view of Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi that Recep Erdogan was the nemesis of Egypt, Jordan and the moderate elements of the middle-east.

Really quite surprising to see VP Pence state the Trump administration had no idea about the Flynn lobbying which was quite widely circulated at the time by The Daily Caller and others.

If what Mike Pence is saying is true, and there’s no reason to think it isn’t, a solid argument can be made that it was actually White Hats that took down Flynn, aided possibly by Mossad, to avoid an even bigger problem down-the-road.

Probably a good idea to put that new possibility on an indent tab on the card file.  Curiousor and curiousor…

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267 Responses to Vice President Pence Remarks on Flynn’s Turkish Lobbying Revelations…

  1. truthandjustice says:

    “Rep. Elijah Cummings, Ranking Member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, sent Pence a letter on November 18 requesting more information about the potential conflicts of interest posed by Flynn’s lobbying work.
    Cummings sent the letter four days after both the Daily Caller and Politico reported that Flynn’s consulting firm, Flynn Intel Group, Inc., had been hired to lobby for Turkish interests.
    “Recent news reports have revealed that Lt. Gen. Flynn was receiving classified briefings during the presidential campaign while his consulting firm, Flynn Intel Group, Inc., was being paid to lobby the U.S. Government on behalf of a foreign government’s interests,” Cummings wrote.
    “Lt. Gen. Flynn’s General Counsel and Principal, Robert Kelley, confirmed that they were hired by a foreign company to lobby for Turkish interests, stating: ‘They want to keep posted on what we all want to be informed of: the present situation, the transition between President Obama and President-Elect Trump.’ When asked whether the firm had been hired because of Lt. Gen. Flynn’s close ties to President-elect Trump, Mr. Kelley responded , ‘I hope so.'”
    The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
    Flynn’s client, Turkish businessman Ekim Alptekin, denied working on behalf of the Turkish government and said that he disagreed with Flynn’s decision to register as a foreign agent with the Department of Justice.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/elijah-cummings-letter-to-mike-pence-about-flynn-turkey-lobbying-2017-3

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  2. truthandjustice says:

    And these below from Steve Pieczenik, who seems to hold Flynn in very high regard. Something is very wrong here. I’ve read elsewhere Mossad is connected to the CIA leaks/NWO stuff. So right now I tend to think it’s not Flynn that’s the culprit but Pence and whoever else he’s connected to that are not our friends, shall we say.

    http://stevepieczenik.com/gen-flynn-speaks-out-in-support-of-trump/

    http://stevepieczenik.com/the-dispensable-mike-flynn/

    http://pieczenik.blogspot.com/2016/02/from-lt.html

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    • Tommy Tunes says:

      Why is President Trump keeping FBI James Comey ?

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      • paper doll says:

        I think he’s keeping Comey because Mr.Trump COULD NOT get anyone of worth though the Rinos brier patch in our life time. Might as well stick with the devil you do know .

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      • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

        Jim Comey is like in the middle of a 10-yr job contract and cannot be summarily dismissed by the president. The director would have to voluntarily step down and apparently doesn’t intend to do so any time soon. That’s just the way it is.

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        • I don’t think that is correct. The FBI Director serves at the behest of the President and can be dismissed at any time. President Clinton fired William Steele Sessions on July 20, 1993. The term is usually for 10 years but as I stated they can be fired at anytime.

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          • TreeperInTraining says:

            I thought that they could only be dismissed if they broke the law, for etihcs volations or other adequate cause.

            I think he is stuck with Comey.

            I could be wrong.

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        • filia.aurea says:

          Not correct. Ten years is the LIMIT. He can be fired at any time.

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    • I refer to Mike Pence’s letter to the NYT asking, IMO begging, for them to issue an apology for printing his wife’s email address. Then the time those actors at that play humiliated Pence and his family in the audience and Pence just chocked it up to a simple “freedom of speech” issue. In both cases he never got an apology. But I think we all know that is NOT how to get one. You don’t do their work for them and begging and asking for an apology is doing their work for them. Pence doesn’t command much respect.

      If THAT is how Pence operates then yes I believe he is totally out of the loop on this issue as well. He’s just the “nice guy.” That’s not to say the nice guy can’t get things done, his Midwestern Nice is surely helpful and instrumental in the Trump Administration. So the best thing for this lack of fighting is to have better intelligence. But to get that one must know how to ask and it’s hard to ask if that person is out of the loop and just doesn’t know they are not getting all the intelligence they need.

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      • jmclever says:

        I have learned never to mistake Christian graciousness for weakness. I believe Pence is incredibly gracious, but he is not weak; otherwise, Trump would not have chosen him.

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      • Wavetheshales says:

        I think Pence might not have taken Turkey seriously (here in Europe we look at them as more or less the Keystone Kops of the Arab world). The problem is, Air-head-gan fancies himself as the next Kaliph. And he has this nasty habit of offing his enemies.

        Now there’s a fellow in the USA, Fethullah Gülen, who Erdogan would like to see
        “liquidated”. The problem is, he’s just as bad as Erdogan.

        Time to send all these perps back, and let them destroy their own world. Same with our
        “guests” in Germany…..

        Having said all that, the (ever more insecure) bases in Turkey are important because of their location. Without them, it hurts our strike capability, in terms of fuel and time. There
        may be more to this issue than what we see…..

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    • Toronto Tonto says:

      FBI Anon said that and that Trump will push Kushner out. He should, but I’m not holding my breath. I don’t get all the love for Pence around here. I think he’s a scheming weasel.

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      • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

        Around here most don’t pay attention to what “FBI Anon said.”
        Not interested in FakeNews.

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        • JSBachLover says:

          Speak for yourself. FBIAnon is clearly very well -informed. However, I disagree strongly that Pence is a weasel. Some of you don’t seem to read character very well. And you’re missing that if that’s what Pence is, then Trump is an idiot. And that’s hardly the case.

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  3. Newagegop says:

    Pence could be providing a cover for Flynn to work in some murky areas by giving the appearance Flynn is on the naughty list. The President needs outside information to make the right decisions. The existing deep state will work for themselves and will mislead. Flynn getting paid, working in the shadows, and providing info from outside would benefit Trump. Flynn would go Batman for Trump. He would take the fall to help America.

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  4. EJ says:

    Vice President Pence is telling a half-truth. It is not clear to what he was referencing when he said “he just heard about it yesterday”. Presumably, he is referencing the “report” itself. In that case, the statement is accurate, because the report was filed on the 8th (I believe). At that point in the conversation he looks down. He is technically correct, but is purposely being unclear. I bet they didn’t realize it was $500,000 worth of fees, but they had to know at the time that Flynn was involved with Turkey. The Trump Administration was reading this website! It was all over the place. It is more likely they discussed this and Trump gave Flynn the benefit of the doubt, but Flynn downplayed the level of his involvement. When Trump found out about how serious it was, along with the fact Flynn also downplayed his Russian conversations, it is no wonder that Flynn got fired.

    This is my interpretation and opinion.

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    • jmclever says:

      It could also be the case that Trump used Flynn to smoke out the deep state and that Flynn is in on it. I like the idea of Flynn countering the hostile deep state.

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    • Indimex says:

      Hey Susie, I keep reading about a Pence, “VP announcement,” prior to Trumps offer. Although I’m at CTH most every day, I don’t recall that reported here. Can you please link to that? I’d really like to be in the loop.
      Also, what would stop Trump from shutting that down, if it were not his intention to partner with Pence?
      Thank you

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    • Sunshine says:

      I agree.

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  5. rsanchez1990 says:

    I don’t get how CTH could know this months ago and Pence, who has access to much more intelligence and many more advisers, only found out about it in the past few days. The “official” reason for Flynn resigning is that Pence didn’t know about his Russian contacts either. Why doesn’t Pence make it his business to learn more about his people, especially since he was in charge of the transition teams?

    I think EJ’s interpretation above makes more sense.

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    • Yes, I agree that EJ’s analysis…makes the most sense.

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    • Investigative journalists are missing from the Trump Administration. Period. Citizen journalists and investigative journalists like Sundance, and frankly some of the excellent writers on CTH. Or at least hire a team that serves as a liaison between what investigative and citizen journalists have uncovered. At this time the Administration has no such resource in place. Just look at their press briefings. All MSM Deep State members. And we know from Wikileaks they have not been getting the intelligence they need. They didn’t even know where the leaks were coming from a darn cell phone turned into a mic and camera.

      Breitbart gets the Administration’s attention. But that’s about how far it goes and Brietbart doesn’t hold a candle to what investigative journalists and other journalists uncover, mainly because people like Sundance are not on anyone’s PAYROLL.

      Not all is bleak! This is where deep prayer and fasting comes in. To eradicate that blanket of deception that surrounds Washington DC. And to keep writing and speaking up. There is a suggestion area on the Trump Admin website. Yesterday I did ask for them to start including journalists who represent we the people instead of the same swamp of MSM reporters who get their own private propaganda session with Spicer on a daily basis, shutting out real news.

      DIRECT LINK TO THE CONTACT PAGE OF THE TRUMP ADMIN WEBSITE:
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact#page

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      • rsanchez1990 says:

        President Trump should stop watching Fox and Friends and start reading more CTH.

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        • aguila2011 says:

          If he is watching Fox & Friends, he is wasting his time. They don’t break any news. They only rehash old stuff and give “their” opinions. Just a right wing version of CNN. Journalists should report the news, not make it. Don’t tell us what to think. Just give us the facts to the best of your ability.

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          • rsanchez1990 says:

            A funny example of this is when President Trump tweeted about the wire tapping, the F&F hosts were “breaking” it and said something like, “we’re getting this directly from the President.”

            So was half of America!

            I do think that he does watch F&F. He retweeted them earlier today.

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    • filia.aurea says:

      Have no doubt that General Flynn is PDJT’s man. His loyalty is to the President only, as it should be.

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  6. He didn’t say the administration didn’t know about, he said it was the first time he heard about it; he didn’t say it was the first time he heard about Flynn’s connection to Turkey, to me it sounded like he didn’t know it was for over $500,000. It also sounds like POTUS figured it out and that’s why Flynn was fired.

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  7. It really isn’t odd at all that Pence would be out of the loop on things. Just refer to the revelations of Wikileaks and the fact that the Trump Administration has not been getting the full disclosure on things. Not getting the intelligence that’s out there. Possibly being blocked from the administration? They thought their Confide encryption system was enough. But we see from the documents that it was inadequate.

    “Well there were earlier press reports that the Trump cabinet has been using an encryption system called ‘CONFIDE’ where the messages disappear quite quickly, it’s sort of like an extra encrypted version of SNAPCHAT. Well, it doesn’t matter, it’s on smart phones, this software attacks smart phones, it doesn’t matter what encryption you’re running on it whether it’s Telegram, Signal, or CONFIDE, it can bypass that encryption, it can turn on the microphones, it can monitor movements, it can activate the camera, typically photos been taken…” –Julian Assange, Wikileaks news conference, March 9, 2017 ((cue to 52:23) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIJdU_ahXeY

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  8. SharonKinDC says:

    WSB posted this link upthread, and it’s a good find:
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/22/trumps-pick-for-eu-ambassador-sides-with-turkey-on-imams-extradition-video/
    While Erdogan is a wanna be Caliphate leader, Gulen isn’t any better. BOTH are Islamists, they had been BFF’s, then had a falling out. Also saw a link yesterday, which I didn’t follow or save, that Gulen heads a 25B drug empire. I also have read his Gulen schools bring in Turks to teach, and their qualifications aren’t so spectacular to warrant passing over US citizens. IOW, it seems like there is a case to be made that not only is Gulen in a dirty business to obtain $, but that he’s a stealth Islamist and his ‘schools’ are mini-rabats, minus the weapons. IF so, I don’t want him here in the US. Thus, in that op-ed in the Hill, Flynn has a point. Also, by sending Gulen back to Erdogan, the US would gain leverage although I’m not sure how useful it would be as the Turk w/ visions of grandeur dancing in his head appears to have so many issues, I think he is and will continue to be a problem, not only regionally due to a desire to annex Syrian lands to Turkey, but for his own people. Loads of purges in the Military, Judiciary, Education, and Journalism. People jailed for ages w/o charges or a trial.

    As for Flynn, IF it’s true that he raked in over 500k vs the 50k originally reported, then it is certainly reasonable for Pence to claim he just heard about ‘it’. When ‘it’ isn’t defined, we are left with trying to guess what ‘it’ means.

    What I find fascinating is WHY the op-ed in the Hill right around election time? It was a silly move, one that would certainly raise questions, and from what I recall of that op-ed, was not particularly impressive in quality. It looks like Flynn dropped his own turd in the punchbowl. The question is WHY?

    Finally, in that East Room presser, Trump expressed support for Flynn as a good man & parsed his words saying something to the effect that Flynn wasn’t completely clear in his comms. Said something like Flynn stated it not quite precisely. Trump never defined what wasn’t precisely stated, and we all assumed it was the Russian ambassador thing. For a guy who is usually quite declarative in his remarks, he was subtle in this case.

    In a way, it seems like there are two Flynn’s. The guy w/ the big vision, who is right on the Islamist problem, right on ME regional issues, right on the need to rework our intel process and the agencies collecting, processing, and disseminating the information. Yet, he’s allegedly sloppy on his accounting for the Russian Ambo convo and purportedly misleads regarding the amount of $ given by the Dutch-Turkish businessman to provide regional strategic insights. Seems like Flynn is either lousy on the detail end of the business, or he was deliberately sloppy and provided not only a justification to be dumped by Trump…but also perhaps an illuminated path to other, far worse wrongdoing in the Podesta group. Hero or heel? Interesting, innit?

    One last point: I liked and appreciated Flynn’s loyalty, support and enthusiasm for Trump during the campaign. However, at times, I found his enthusiasm and the way he expressed it a bit OTT, especially for a 3 star. Maybe, while honest & visionary re the big issues, he really is a bit of a loose cannon on the details? Truth be told, this disconnect reminds me a bit of someone I know who is a high functioning person w/ Asperger’s tendencies. He’s right about big issues-it’s the how to effect change which is a problem. He misses social cues w/ bosses and in meetings and sometimes makes his own mess due to his blindness in interpersonal interaction.

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    • Toronto Tonto says:

      Flynn knows stuff well above our pay grade. We should have cut Gulen loose instead of plotting to overthrow Erdogan and pushing him into the arms of Putin.

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    • Cowwow says:

      I agree about Gulen, Sharon! He needs to be out of this country and all his cult followers, employees, etc.

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    • andymilken says:

      Personally, I believe our president chose him due to his “resistance” stand to the previous administration in how to fight the Islamic jihadists along his strong connection w/ Gen. Kelly and Gen. Mattis, which all three had strong opinions about the previous administration. That said, from what I’ve heard and learned so far about him; it appears he “likes” attention (e.g., social media, etc.), which I don’t think it is a good idea when you are “in-charge’ of the country intelligence apparatus. I don’t know if our president overlooked his outside “activities” and thought his talents would overshadow the “deficiencies,” which reminds me of the sports world when the superstars get different treatment from the scrubs. For one thing, his lobbying company is full of the “deep state” people, including Mr. Woolsley. For whatever the reason, it is probably a good idea not having him inside the administration when he is supposed to be the intelligence guru and get “whacked” because he ‘misread” how intelligence supposes to function. Time to move on. Regarding VP Pence, I still have a strong reservation about him, haven’t changed my mind since the selection. It is a good thing that our president has Bannon and Miller. One last thing, we probably will see lots of turnover from this administration due to the president’s management and leadership style. We shall see.

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    • filia.aurea says:

      General Flynn is above reproach – then and now. Many people didn’t like President Trump’s “tone” and “OTT” approach either, and still don’t. Tough, get over it.

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    • KeepingtheFaith says:

      Thank you Sharon, I started reading this thread before I went to work and didn’t have time to comment. Two people I respect: Sibel Edmonds and George Webb have stated something very similar. I think there is much more to this story…stay tuned.

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  9. not2worryluv says:

    I’m surprised that President Trump or his campaign manager didn’t know about Flynn’s lobbyist activities before he was recruited to be an active campaigner. I don’t know if Pence had any say so in the campaign or who suggested Flynn be as prominent in the campaign rallies as he was. I’m still not sure where kellyanne’s loyalty was after she left the Cruz ship.

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    • Bull Durham says:

      They knew for certain when he published the op-ed. Well before he was appointed.
      This is all BS coverPence’s ass stuff.
      Smearing Flynn is the meme of the day.

      Who benefits?

      What’s the US policy change in Syria-Turkey?

      How much is Gulen back in good stead?

      It’s not the only danger.
      Why the push for weapons to Ukraine as well as Kurds?

      This is all the reverse of Trump foreign policy statements and intentions.

      Everything went 180 degrees when Flynn was ousted.

      Canada is making a three year push to stay in Ukraine with its weapons, and more ammunition to Ukraine and advisers. To help kill more civilians? Or more NATO bait?

      And if you haven’t taken a look at South Korea, Mrs. Park was finally ousted, impeached, and we have based bombers there, THAAD missile system and are destabilizing the region. Mrs. Park had very good relationship with Beijing. We led this color revolution to get her out. China and Russia will take steps in response. It is much more than just the nutcase in Pyongyang. There has been no attempt at talks with NK.

      His army, 3 million strong, is spring-loaded. They will reach Seoul in minutes if there is a an attack on the North.

      Put South Korea into a war, and you have an economic engine of the global economy crippled for years.

      I don’t think Trump wants this disaster. But where’s the diplomacy.

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      • not2worryluv says:

        Obama has had 8 years to plan this scenario. The US never made an economic recovery; Russia was never dealt with in its aggression in the Ukraine; Syria got a pink line in the sand; ISIS was JV Squad; the ME leaders were effectively replaced by Obama with Muslim Brotherhood members that please Iran. Then as the closing act Obama provides Iran with gold, euros and Swiss francs to “settle” the “debt” we owe them! In the meantime we’ve been looking at the trees of racial unrest, illegal immigration and Obamacare. There has been no diplomacy just setting the table for the NWO. Obama and his minions have bigger plans than the presidency of the USA. And President Trump has been caught in the mire of it all.

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  10. recoverydotgod says:

    I think it is wise for POTUS to task Pence with having to speak to the issue of Flynn’s lobbying since Pence was in charge of transition vetting. If you fail at your job, you get to deal with it.

    Mike Pence Orders Lobbyists Be Removed From Transition Team
    by ALEXANDRA JAFFE
    November 16, 2017
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/pence-removes-lobbyists-trump-transition-team-controversial-names-remain-n684836

    -snip-

    Vice President-elect Mike Pence has ordered all lobbyists be removed from Donald Trump’s White House transition team, NBC News has learned. This would bring the transition more in line with Trump’s campaign-trail pledge to “drain the swamp” of veteran politicians and special interests in Washington.

    -snip-

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    • filia.aurea says:

      Pity the transition team missed most, if not all the Obama “burrowers”. The IG reported many who had bypassed OPM approval.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      I’m glad Pence ordered the lobbyists removed from the transition team but I find it puzzling since Pence was pretty much owned by lobbyists when he was in Congress.

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  11. Mickey Wasp says:

    Can’t help but think VP Pence is purposely lying and using political double-speak. There is no way in hell he did not know of Lt Gen Michael Flynn and son’s consulting firm, Flynn Intel Group, is not registered with Congress as a lobbying organization, and has a registered lobbyist on its staff.

    A Flynn Intel Group client, Kamil Ekim Alptekin, a Turkish businessman with real estate, aerospace, and consulting interests, told The Intercept on Thursday that one of his companies, Inovo BV, paid Flynn’s company “tens of thousands of dollars” for analysis on world affairs.
    https://theintercept.com/2016/11/17/turkish-client-paid-trump-adviser-michael-flynns-company-tens-of-thousands-of-dollars-for-lobbying/?comments=1#comments -Nov.17 2016
    Flynn published an opinion piece for The Hill urging U.S. support for Turkey’s controversial strongman president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and pushing for the extradition of Erdogan’s political rival, Fethullah Gülen, who now resides in Pennsylvania. “From Turkey’s point of view, Washington is harboring Turkey’s Osama bin Laden,” Flynn wrote, on November 8.

    Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, a top national-security adviser to President-elect Donald Trump, said Thursday he would sever his relationship with his consulting firm if he is tapped to serve in the administration, amid scrutiny of his company’s relationship with a Turkish businessman.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-adviser-michael-flynn-plans-to-sever-consulting-firm-ties-if-tapped-for-administration-1479417634 – Nov. 17, 2016

    A consulting firm Flynn founded with his son after he retired, Flynn Intel Group — a registered lobbying organization — also has ties to Turkey’s President Erdogan, through one of its clients, Kamil Ekim Alptekin. Alptekin chairs the Turkish-American Business Council, whose members are chosen by Turkish government officials, and helped organize Erdogan’s visit to Washington earlier this year. Alptekin company, Inovo BV, which is based in the Netherlands, paid Flynn’s firm thousands of dollars for analysis beginning in August — the same month Flynn began sitting in on classified intelligence briefings with Trump, Yahoo News reported on Thursday.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-michael-flynn-trump-national-security-adviser-2016-11
    Flynn has come under scrutiny for some of his business ties, his views toward Russia, and his Twitter account, where he often promoted conspiracy theories during Trump’s campaign. Among them: a story suggesting Hillary Clinton was implicated in “sex crimes,” and a meme making unsubstantiated claims about prominent journalists colluding with Clinton.

    Michael Flynn, Trump’s reported pick for national security adviser, sat in on intel briefings — while advising foreign clients. Robert Kelley, the chief counsel to the Flynn Intel Group, said Lt Gen Flynn promised that “if I return to government service, my relationship with my company will be severed, in accordance with the policy announced by President-elect Trump.” But critics today dismissed Flynn’s pledge as “Too little, too late,” given that he began sitting in on U.S. intelligence briefings for Trump in August while working for foreign clients. Nov 17, 2016
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-flynn-key-trump-aide-sat-in-on-intel-briefings-while-advising-foreign-clients-004512931.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      Interesting 4 little hit pieces on Flynn. Yawn, especially the one from leftwing FakeNews midget… yahoo dotcom. GIGO

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      • Mickey Wasp says:

        Hit pieces? Did you read my first paragraph?
        The point is to PROVE Pence knew about Lt Gen Flynn’s business affairs. I DO NOT disparage Mr. Flynn for wanting to make a living with the experience and knowledge he obtained. These articles were written between Aug / Nov 2016. Say want you want about Yahoo, Wall Street Journal, The Intercept, Business Insider and several more publications and web-sites – they had the story of Lt Gen Michael Flynn and the chief counsel of Flynn Intel Group, Robert Kelly personal statements. Lt Gen Flynn knows the classified material that can and should bring down the ‘swamp monsters’ – that Pence is a huge part of – check his past …

        Now, do you think that the ‘head’ of President Trump’s ‘transition team’, Mike Pence did not know of Lt Gen Flynn’s involvement in a business enterprise that bore his name?

        Former CIA Officer Robert David Steele Lays Out The Purple Revolution Plan ~
        Mr. Steele explains how Flynn was really fired because he was in possession of a high-level Washington DC Pedophile list with many names. One of those names was Vice President Mike Pence’s “best friend”.http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=66463

        Federal authorities have locked up more than 1,500 people on child trafficking and pedophilia charges since President Trump and AG Sessions assumed office, which is being completely ignored by mainstream media. According to the FBI there were less than 400 sex trafficking-related arrests made in the entirety of 2014/15, proving that Trump and Sessions are serious about using “the “full force and weight” of the U.S. government to break up child sex trafficking rings and lock up sexual predators.
        http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/ag-jeff-sessions-pelosi-expect-pedophile-investigations-begin/

        Jeff Sessions Tells Pelosi To Expect Pedophile Investigations to Begin

        *Could be some truth to the pedophile’s in Wash DC and includes many republicans *

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        • cozette says:

          It is true and it’s huge. It involves both parties and journalists. That’s the big reason everyone is acting so unhinged. They know Trump knows. All this was confirmed in an AMA on reddit the_Donald with insider Trumps First Member.

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    • Bull Durham says:

      Flynn had national security clearance to get briefings.
      Not a Trump issue.
      In fact, the last report I saw recently was he still had his security clearance.
      That was a few weeks ago, I recall.
      He lost it for a brief time after he resigned. Then it was reinstated.

      So all this stuff is BS to smear him and CYA Pence.

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      • Mickey Wasp says:

        My point is to PROVE Pence knew about Lt Gen Flynn’s business affairs. I DO NOT disparage Mr. Flynn for wanting to make a living with the experience and knowledge he obtained. Many articles were written between Aug / Nov 2016 … Yahoo, Wall Street Journal, The Intercept, Business Insider and several more publications and web-sites, including CTH – they had the story of Lt Gen Michael Flynn and the chief counsel of Flynn Intel Group, Robert Kelly personal statements. Lt Gen Flynn knows the classified material that can and should bring down the ‘swamp monsters’ – that Pence is a huge part of – check his past …

        If one thinks that the ‘head’ of President Trump’s ‘transition team’ (Mike Pence) did not know of Lt Gen Flynn’s involvement in a business enterprise that bore his name, are idiots. Could be some truth to the pedophile’s in Wash DC and includes many republicans – the ‘chatter’ on the Internet and Flynn and his son ‘tweeted’ as much, and several are saying one of them was a personal friend of Pence and think it’s Flake.

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  12. pawatcher says:

    Pence is setting Trump up while weaseling himself out of his culpability for this, Flynn’s demise, and the Russian fiasco: the question will be WHEN did Trump know? Sound familiar??

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    • Bull Durham says:

      Concur. This is covering Flynn with shit while sugar-coating Pence with glossy icing.
      Revisionist crap from the Pence camp.

      I’ll take Flynn over 1000 Mike Pences.

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      • benifranlkin says:

        I wouldn’t trust either one. Flynn is shifty and not forthcoming now on 2 issues with the President. Pence as the transition team leader is weak and ineffectual. I wouldn’t choose 1 over the other. I’m sure the President knows what he is dealing with for the both of them. He is stuck with Pence. Good thing the Donald has Bannon.

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  13. paper doll says:

    I think Pence restirred the pot and brought this up now and because there is pressure to bring Flynn back in some capacity and the N.W.O. has their WH globalists in place and does not want Flynn back, even at the kid’s table. About the trans team, my understanding was Pence kicked out Christie’s lobbyists for his own ….Christie is loyal to Mr. Trump, but greedy; he went too hogs gone wild filling spaces with his worthless cronies and so made himself an easy take down target…

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      THing is, we ‘know’ Christie retained a bunch of lobbyists from MSM which likely heard the ‘news’ from the Pence team… so IDK what is true and what isn’t.

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      • paper doll says:

        I would agree…but I have also seen Christie after Storm Sandy,his greed came out there as well. Plus the Bridge event happened just after he was comfortably reelected. Both times was a chance to show leadership and he failed to . He merely went for the benneys these opportunities afforded. The Trans team was another chance, and he sadly went to type. I actually like him for his loyalty to Mr. Trump. It’s a shame. He is his own worse enemy…well one of them

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    • Bull Durham says:

      Concur on your suggestion Re: Flynn vs Pence.
      The Deep State is terrified of Flynn. He KNOWS! And they know he’s the Grim Reaper for their kind.

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      • paper doll says:

        Indeed. They are terrified of Flynn showing and advising Mr.Trump there is another way besides the globalist world view he gets now. Suddenly he tweets the Crimea was picked off by Russia due to Obama’s weakness…forgotten is the fact 98 % voted to rejoin. Who told Pence about Flynn’s phone call and what to ask him? Interesting. Our best help is God, Mr. Trump and the fact that two incompetent powers that be factions are fighting each other. If either were any good, Mr. Trump would not have gotten to the WH

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  14. joninmd22 says:

    Possibly Christie did the initial vetting on Flynn and never passed on any negatives. Birds of a feather?

    Also Flynn had built up quite a bit of credit by election day and in the crush of events the Turkey lobbying got overlooked or a warning to walk the straight and narrow.

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  15. Frank says:

    Pence isn’t saying he was unaware of Flynn’s connections. However, he was apparently unaware that Flynn was earning so much money with Turkey that he had to register himself with the DOJ as a foreign agent. Because Flynn is already long gone from Trumpland, it’s understandable that Pence would not be keeping close tabs on him anymore.

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  16. SharonKinDC says:

    Ppl should read the two filings posted upthread. Has more than just the usual fill in the blank stuff… In short, when the contract came in from the Danish-Turk biz man, Flynn Intel Grp (FIG) outsourced a bunch of work to SRG. The SRG filings also note Flynn’s op ed wasn’t part of a contract, it was something Flynn, personally, wanted out in public. IOW, Flynn knew Gulen was trouble. He’s right. What it seems like to me, is a LOT of stuff is being conflated to sound nefarious and I doubt that it is…
    https://www.fara.gov/docs/6379-Exhibit-AB-20170307-http://disclosures.house.gov/ld/ldxmlrelease/2017/RR/300845931.xml

    Thing is, SRG DID do work for Sherbank (see Podesta Grp involvement w/ Sherbank), this isn’t necessarily some sort of smoking gun. I’m quite sure firms work for all sorts of opposing interests and owe it to their clients to not comingle information. What it DOES make me wonder is if that offer from the Danish-Turk biz man was some sort of poison pill dangled in front of Flynn, and he bit/was duped?

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    • Bull Durham says:

      What was the date when Flynn was named NSC head?

      And why was he not told earlier so he wouldn’t be hunting an income?

      He had sacrificed a lot to campaign for months. So, if he had no notice he would be part of the administration, why wouldn’t he accept a job or contract and make some money?

      This whole relationship was public in November with his op-ed. It was not secret. Nothing Flynn has ever done with Putin, RT, Russia, Turkey, lobbying or editorials was secret or underhanded. Mike Flynn is the only one who was 100% transparent. “Lock her up,” said at the convention. Flynn was easy to understand.

      Pence is the Janus-face.

      And this stuff is sickening. Pence is a pol. Flynn was trying to reform the mess in the IC.
      Flynn had the good generals behind him.
      Pence’s allies are the MSM, the NeverTrumpers, and all the Russophobes.

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  17. Act says:

    I do not trust Pence. He choose his words with caution and he and Paul Ryan are BFF,
    Pence came out in full swing for Ryancare . Watch them carefully, both are for Open borders
    Supported by Koch brothers, and preparing themselves for 2020. Please pray for President
    Trump protection from impeachment as both of them hopes to take over. Also, when Pence
    Was in Germany, he spoke a different foreign policies from President Trump. Why?

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  18. Bubba says:

    Now that Kelly is a foreign agent, I wonder if he can be legally surveilled by our intelligence agencies?

    Will rogue IC agents feel emboldened to surveil him because he’s a foreign agent? Will they be trying to find something that they could turn back on Trump? You know that they won’t be able to help themselves.

    I wonder if this whole Kelly thing was a grand strategy? Is this part of a sting on Trump’s enemies by using Kelly as bait so they’ll spy on him and leak to the press? Then, catch the IC agents in the act, expose them, and remove them (draining the swamp)?

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  19. Mickey Wasp says:

    Pence may have stepped in it deep … with his interview with Bret (Fox) and using the parseltongue avoidance answer about knowledge of Lt Gen Flynn.

    Been monitoring the leftist propaganda news sites – every one of them are mentioning the letter from Cummings to Pence (and other national reports) that notified him of Flynn’s affiliations. Expect this to be a topic on all Sunday news shows. Will be interesting to hear how Pence responds.

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  20. Mike diamond says:

    Flynn? Obama gives Iran almost the whole store,he turns his back on Israel, Loretta lynch meets with bill Clinton on her plane,hilary has a pay for play deal for bills charity, on and on,yet the news media is so worried about Flynn???its beyond the twilight zone rod stearling would be in shock!

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  21. cjzak says:

    I’m puzzled. Pres. Trump picked both men to serve in his administration. Why would anyone here think one or both are trying to undermine the President and that the President really didn’t know who each of these men were and what their backgrounds are? Seems there is more to this than we are privy to, but why the assumption is that one or both is up to no good seems a bit off for me.

    If the Pres. is ok with them why the doubt? Flynn was dealt with for whatever the Pres. didnt like and Pence is working on important things and takes part in plenty everyday for the Pres. Flynn possibly may be doing behind the scenes assignments for the Pres. too, which we don’t know about.

    I just am not seeing the red flags here over Pence or Flynn to the extent others seem to be.

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  22. wodiej says:

    I’m disappointed to read all of the personal character insults being lobbed at VP Pence. A lying weasel? A fake Christian? You are not only undermining Pence, but you are casting doubt on Trump and his intelligence and well known abilities to be shrewd and defeating his opponents. With all of the opposition throwing everything at Trump to make him look like a failure, you don’t think he has a plan bigger than what the eye can see?

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  23. Eric Fraize says:

    I gotta tell ya…you guys here at CTH are my primary source for truth and news. I am never NOT impressed by your insight. Just eye opening.

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