Michael Flynn Resigns…

…. Well, here’s my take.


All I ever needed to know about this entire Michael Flynn Rubber Tire is abundantly evident in the following CNN paragraph(s):

CNN – The Justice Department warned the Trump administration last month that Michael Flynn misled administration officials regarding his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States and was potentially vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians, a person familiar with the matter told CNN

[…]  The message was delivered by then-Acting Attorney General Sally Yates. Other top intelligence officials, including James Clapper and John Brennan, were in agreement the White House should be alerted about the concerns.

Which also explains why The Washington Post was the originating source of the ‘controversy’/’fiasco’.  As previously stated numerous times, The Washington Post is the official leak-outlet for the political arm of the CIA.  And the most politicized of all agents ever inside the CIA was John Brennan – a black hat extraordinaire.

So, swamp reviewers can begin to see how this Rubber Tire was constructed.


The political agents within the “intelligence community”, ie. the Big Black Hats, took the position that General Michael Flynn must have lied to Vice President Pence because their interpretation of the phone call they intercepted was that Flynn did give some form (context and actual communication unknown) of forward assurance to the Russian emissary that a Trump administration would not approach the Russian Sanction issue (which, we should remember, is based on a non-existent vast Russian election hacking conspiracy) the same way as the Obama administration.

To wit, the pre-inagural Trump intelligence community, politically motivated as they were, alerted President-elect Trump (through Sally Yates) that their opinion (baseline that Flynn lied) was such that Flynn had now opened himself up for blackmail from the Russians.

A convenient, albeit typical and transparently political, divide and conquer strategy that holds all the fingerprints of chief schemer and manipulator John Brennan.

Whereas John Brennan constructs a false dichotomy, a useful parsel-tongue narrative, to put a wedge between President-elect Trump, Vice-President-elect Pence, and NSA Director Flynn, when/if it becomes most politically useful to deploy.

As in, when they become President Trump and Vice-President Pence.

The space between the FBI (who reviewed transcript and said no structural communication content seemed to be a ‘Logan issue’), and what the CIA can construct (their opinion is, Logan issue or not, Flynn’s a fibber), is the useful space where leaked differences of opinion to the media can create the controversy.

The black hats within intel (Hired by the Bigger Hats) then take lead from the Big exiting Black Hats and tell President Trump as long as their exiting intel position is that Flynn has misconstrued the conversation, well, they can no longer brief the President about sensitive matters of national security because there’s a compromise (Flynn) within the room.

Rightly or wrongly, the remaining intel can hide behind the former parsel-tongue policy interpretations and refuse to support the Trump admin.

Sorry, that’s our policy *Quack*!

Regardless of whether VP Pence or POTUS Trump accept that Flynn misled, so long as intel quackers have plausible deniability to sell their belief he did there will always be an ongoing issue.

Within the context of Potus and VPotus accepting these same quacking voices will continue leaking to their official outlet, The Washington Post, about the ongoing internal dynamics of the schism within the intel briefing disagreement standard, there is no upside to continue fighting on Flynn’s behalf.

An unknown variable when Rubber Tires like this are constructed, is the expressed opinion/relationship of the words from Pence.    Pence’s opinion of whether or not he was lied to, or even the truth behind what conversation he and Flynn may have had, becomes moot.

It’s ridiculous, however it’s also simply how political forces in the swamp keep the boil of controversy going regardless of the substance of the content behind it.    Like Brennan implied, you don’t want those CIA folks to have a chip on their black-hatted shoulders because they can leak, and you cannot rebuke the leak without breaking the law and discussing classified information / briefings.

It becomes a “he said, and You can’t say“; a one-way conversation with the insufferable media more than gleeful to sell an undermining narrative.

DC Tire Boils are always fubar.


The piranha’s are biting a fake news rubber tire that has been dipped into the boil; and the swamp defenders who are holding the rope are intent on convincing the viewing audience it’s really a side of beef.

Wait for the boil to subside, and if you stick around long after the audience moves on, you’ll see a rubber tire removed.

Deep State is always beneath the surface.

Look below the surfacebrennan-duping-delight

  • Dec 25th 2016 – Flynn talks to Russian counterpart
  • Dec 29th 2016 – Obama announces sanctions on Russia
  • Jan 15th 2017 – VP Pence appears on Face the nation.
  • Jan 20th 2017 – Inauguration
  • Jan 26th 2017 – Sally Yates (acting DOJ) informs President Trump there might be a conflict between VP Pence’s stated TV version (was told by Flynn), and what Intel community communicate to Yates that Flynn actually expressed.
  • Jan 27th 2017 – White House counsel begins investigation to discrepancy.
  • Unknown date – DOJ/White House Counsel investigation finds no violation of law in Flynn communication content w/ Russia and informs White House.
  • Legal issue Removed – Issue is: Did Flynn mislead President, Vice-President, and key White House staff on content of communication.
  • Feb 13th 2017 – White House accepts Flynn resignation.


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1,066 Responses to Michael Flynn Resigns…

  1. Athena the Warrior says:

    My concern about Flynn is that he was sloppy in the dinner meeting and phone call with Russia. Is that fair? Of course not but he knew that since the election, the Democrats were gunning for POTUS Trump and the Russian angle. Even though it was within his job duties to discuss matters with his counterparts, I feel that if he had waited until 1.20.2017, these issues wouldn’t be a factor now.

    The Democrats are desperate and extra caution should have been used to not give them ammo to puff themselves up at press conferences about.

    Flynn is in Intelligence but he didn’t handle this as an Intelligence Op.

    Liked by 2 people

    • The Demon Slick says:

      I want people in jail over this. The President and his staff MUST have the ability to securely communicate with foriegn leaders and diplomats. If those calls are leaked, the people responsible must be rooted out and punished. There is no bigger issue in this story.

      Liked by 10 people

    • vinchenzer says:

      “The space between the FBI (who reviewed transcript and said no structural communication content seemed to be a ‘Logan issue’), and what the CIA can construct (their opinion is, Logan issue or not, Flynn’s a fibber), is the useful space where leaked differences of opinion to the media can create the controversy.”

      Then Trump should have told Flynn to stay on and stated simply the FBI informed him that there was no “Logan issue” so what is the problem and then let the MSM/Leftist-slobs defend the CIA and turn the whole “quack controversy” on them. And then everyone can cheer for and defend their favorite Intel group (FBI v CIA).

      Flynn didn’t lie to Trump/Pence because the FBI informed Trump that there was no issue. So the Left can then defend the CIA, look like idiots and Trump can continue to move forward and MAGA.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Madonna says:

        My thoughts exactly and I am so disappointed in our President for not expecting and countering this whole set-up. Flynn is so feared by the left: that should be the best reason in the world to keep him right where he was. He is a great patriot, gave up all his personal bs interests to serve this President and this country: He was mistreated and I personally am upset about that. He is a huge resource and has been lost to us.

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        • GenEarly says:

          Gen. Flynn took one for the Trump team. Obamy’s CIA is blackmailing Trump over Flynn, whom they detest for his earlier resistance to starting a war with Russia in Syria. Obama fired Flynn. So the earlier leaked Trump phone calls (with Australia’s PM) were used as a continuing threat. Unless Trump fired Flynn the leaks would continue. This manufactured ruse with the Russians was used as a pretext to come up with a cover story (Lying to the VP) to justify Flynn’s forced resignation.
          We could discuss “right” or “wrong” but it is irrelevant in the DC Swamp where raw power is King. Trump has been taught his first JFK lesson, and that is a President is not King of the Deep State. Trump must play ball by their rules or next time it will be worse.
          Unfortunately the “Putin is the Devil” faction is now in ascendancy making McCain, and Grahmnesty Neocons happy. So expect more tensions and threats of new wars to bolster more Spending on Big “Defense” Empire. DemocRats will demand equal Spending for their Social Pogroms and Shazaam! Trump at best becomes another Reagan. Doing some peripheral tinkering but leaving the USSA Deep State Swamp intact.
          The USSA Empire will collapse, but the Establishment Elites will have feathered their nests, or will have flown away by then, whenever that happens. We will be left holding the bag, an empty bag, and bankrupt under the bus. There is no cavalry coming to the rescue, enjoy your scalping, dead or alive is not relevant either.
          CYA, Comrades. You will learn to live in the USSA.

          Liked by 1 person

          • dustycowpoke says:

            I see your point but if Potus can’t drain the swamp some of old vets will take it on and we are not afraid of who to target. It is a matter of self preservation in a country we have fought for in our history and we are not afraid to put out all stops and go for the prize. God bless America land of the free…


  2. Ace says:

    Remember how Trump was attacked right before a debate and how he responded and the look on Bill Clinton’s face? And that way before he owned the terrifying power of the Presidency.
    Just wait and see.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Mike says:

      That’s what I’m thinking. Trump’s turn now. Plus, “the resistance” is made up of losers who have a special talent of making lemons out of lemonade. Just a matter of time before Trump’s opponents stick their foot right in it.

      Liked by 3 people

  3. LULU says:

    This is very good. Published yesterday before Flynn resigned:


    Liked by 4 people

  4. redlegleader68 says:

    The press conference just ended and I dropped in on insider.foxnews.com site and saw the following headline:
    NEW INFO: Flynn Surveillance Required Approval at Highest Levels

    If you read this headline and then consider Ace’s comment above, I’m just wondering if Trump isn’t back to his 3-D chess game. OK, let me put it another way. Think of the movie “Pearl Harbor” and the misdirection they did on Wake Island to see if they really had the Japanese Code. The line about the Water Tank breaking or something.

    If there was “surveillance” approved at “the highest levels” could we be watching the mother of all traps being set (and now sprung) on some very well placed and unknown leakers??

    Like Ace said, Just wait and see !!

    Liked by 6 people

    • Admin says:

      I thought it was approved at the highest levels and that this actually occurred right after Obama levied sanctions against Russia but well before the inauguration. Which if true would mean someone high up in the Obama administration–perhaps Yates herself– granted permission to listen in on Flynn’s calls.

      Liked by 4 people

      • CC says:

        And the beauty of this is that it’s now a two way street. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Sessions now has precedence and can declare open season on intel gathering between whoever he wants to. Maybe say perhaps…McCain and Brennan or Clapper and Lady Graham. The Black Hats just signed their own death warrants. Literally.

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        • I hope…..Have another look at the monster picture that Sundance likes to post…..That is so true and drives the point home……These people are so well entrenched and hidden, that this swamp is going to be a tough drain……An old truism pops up in my head from my childhood days…..When you are up to your a$$ in aligators, it’s hard to remember that your initial intentention was to drain the swamp.

          Liked by 3 people

          • CC says:

            Yes, but alligators aren’t necessarily the brightest bunch. Deadly? Yes? But also known to be cannibalistic.
            Trump is Trump. He’s navigated the shark infested waters of NYC real estate for what? 40 years? He’s had to deal with unions, politicians, garment district folks, the mob, you name it. He’s no shrinking violet. He’s a bar room brawler, and we’re not used to having someone like Trump on our side. We’ve been brow beaten by the Ryans, McConnells, McCains, and Grahams for years. We watched Romney throw the election to Obama. We’ve watched the Bush/Clinton cabal rip off our country and murder our sons and daughters in phony conflicts overseas. I trust Trump. He’s brilliant at what he does. And that’s navigate, conquer and fight battle after battle. Look what he overcame to win the Presidency? 16 well seasoned politicians, including a Bush. And he beat the intel community, Hollywood, the media and the establishment. It wasn’t an accident. Nor dumb luck.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        I highly suspect Yates.

        Liked by 2 people

      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        With no warrant?


    • The Boss says:

      And meanwhile, the congressional pack of pussy hat-wearing, hysterically yapping democrat poodles want an investigation. Well now that there is an AG, they can get an investigation. Let the chips fall where they may!

      Liked by 5 people

    • trapper says:

      Wink. If you are about to board the Trump Jeep for a hair raising trip through Jurassic Swamp on your way to open up the swamp drain, might you not want to load up some neocon meat to throw out the back to distract the pursuing velociraptors?

      Liked by 6 people

    • teapartyson says:

      Shhhhhh, takes the Left awhile to get smart but they make up for it with Collective Consiousness

      Liked by 1 person

  5. Bob Thoms says:

    IMO, by misleading Pence, Flynn put a knife in Trump’s back.

    Liked by 1 person

  6. Ghostrider says:

    Today, is a defining day in the Trump Administration. With the Democrats full court press on display for the world to see, and Senate Republicans led by L. Graham going after Trump directly, this is just not going to end well. Already they are asking and want Spicer and Conway to resign. They see and smell the blood in the water. CNN is in total control of the narrative. Ryan and McConnell are not helping..all duck and cover. What they see is a story without a scandal they think they can ride to the mid-terms.

    Desperate people to desperate things. They know how to play the game. Full bipartisan tag teaming on Trump. Promulgate the leak into a story into a scandal narrative take down Trump’s people like pawns by attacking his unprotected flank. In the end, no SCOTUS confirmed. I am afraid they will win. Trump needs us now more than ever.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Admin says:

      I think Trump needs to give a JFK type address in a national address and let them know what kind crap the elites are pulling in D.C. But we already know what the government’s playbook would be in response should he do that. 😦

      Liked by 5 people

    • tvollrath66 says:

      Trump will never give up..man up…whats the difference from yesterday and today. ..press was after trump ..gop after trump…dems after trump…sos…generals are a dime a dozen…MAGA

      Liked by 5 people

    • Trump has given them the rope to hand themselves

      Liked by 1 person

    • Mike says:

      “Trump needs us now more than ever.”

      You want to help? Then you can help by stopping with your over the top hysterical speculation. Take a Valium, go for a walk or something, and get a grip on yourself. You’ve been around long enough to do better than this.

      Liked by 3 people

    • LCSmom says:

      Why would the senate republicans have any say in whether Spicer or Conway work for the Trump administration? What is the scandal with Spicer? He’s just a messenger.

      There has to be a white hat out there with some dirt on Lindsay Graham. He’s a closeted senator for goodness sake.

      Liked by 2 people

      • CC says:

        Lady Graham has more skeletons in her closet than the catacombs has skulls.

        Liked by 2 people

      • flawesttexas says:

        Lindsay Graham gets cover because of his Soros ties. That Gateway Pundit article on Graham-Soros and GOP-Soros is a must read

        Soros is key here, because he is a big financial supporter of the maidan in Ukraine. He is the main reason we have all this Blame Russia spin.

        Liked by 2 people

    • What a defeatist….I’m glad you weren’t at the Battle of the Bulge.

      Liked by 2 people

    • jmclever says:

      what was that girl’s name that tried to frame Corey Lewandowsky? Calling for his termination? That didn’t work out too well for her, now did it?

      Liked by 4 people

    • I have to believe you didn’t watch Spicer’s press conference today. He has been slowly civilizing the press. Today they took a giant step backwards but he kept discipline and in another couple of days we will see this scandal through the rearview mirror. I’m sure Trump has some doozies of distractions planned.

      Liked by 1 person

    • John Hall says:

      Nice assessment. It’s hard to say without knowing the contents and context of Flynn’s conversation with the Russian ambassador, but my hunch is that Flynn probably thought he was doing Trump and the country a service saying just enough to keep Russia from retaliating against Obama’s sanctions and diplomatic expulsions. I think it goes without saying that we were all more than a little concerned that Obama might go scorched earth in his final days, and an escalation with Russia was certainly in the cards. Nonetheless, while his intentions may have been good, he exceeded his authority and as a result put Trump in a very compromised position.

      Liked by 1 person

  7. osprey1 says:

    “To wit, the pre-inaugural Trump intelligence community…” Shouldn’t this actually read “To wit, the pre-Trump inaugural intelligence community”. The second way makes it more clear you are talking about Obama appointees.


  8. NHVoter says:

    The swamp is swarming.

    Liked by 1 person

  9. Trump should move all WH operations to Mar-A-Lago, immediately ! I will guarantee that the entire WH and all communication devices are bugged.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Bonphil says:

      I agree 100%. The Marxist that previously occupied the Oval Office has definitely installed multiple forms of surveillance of the most advanced design. Make no mistake, Obama is the leader of the American Progressive/Marxist revolution. Trump is an existential threat to Obama and his network of globalist devils. The tentacles of their leviathan are installed throughout the media, academia and politics on a global scale. They will stop at nothing to achieve their objective of complete global control.
      In all honesty, Trump is akin to George Washington fighting the second American revolution against the tyranny of a totalitarian global corporate monarchy.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Eagle 61 says:

      Indeed. This incident spells out the need for the immediate advancement in super secure communications.

      Of course, if there are traitors in the White House, they should be found out, fined and jailed.


  10. Didn’t the head of Secret Service just resign? Hmmmm. Maybe one of the leaks is a Sec. Serv Agent. Makes sense.

    Liked by 2 people

  11. sunnydaze says:

    Pathetic. New York Times reports on tweet from FAKE Flynn account as tho it is REAL News.


    Liked by 2 people

  12. Jeff C-C says:

    Pray for our country. Pray for wisdom and strength for the whole administration; that they would turn to Yahweh Sabboath (the sovereign creator of the universe and general of the heavenly armies) for His protection and deliverance.

    Liked by 4 people

  13. Just Scott says:

    With General Flynn’s resignation, does he still get half salary retirement benefit even though he was on the job less than a month?

    What if this was actually a “gift” to a start-up player, allows a different “face” to step in, and Gen. Flynn can continue to quietly provide highly focused advice with a less hectic schedule and profile.

    Maybe the joke here is on the libprogs.

    Liked by 1 person

    • jmclever says:

      That thought had crossed my mind as well. Knowing Trump, the MSM may well wish Flynn was back after they experience whoever replaces him.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Maquis says:

      Me too. He’s out of the CIA/FBI loop, and may be playing a form of rope-a-dope for PDJT.

      An off the books intelligence asset and general underground ambassador to get around all the traps laid by Obama the Scum-Bag Traitor.

      One can hope.

      Liked by 1 person

  14. Bob Thoms says:

    Trump could have easily fought the high ground on Flynn discussing sanctions with the Russians; what screwed things up is Flynn misleading Pence……and then misleading again.

    Liked by 1 person

  15. I see two ways this is going to go down

    A. The legal way when Sessions gets his ducks in a row and the I’s dotted and T’s crossed (the pizza is just about done)


    B. It will be taken care of the military way.

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  16. NHVoter says:

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  17. cali says:

    Sadly – this was a big mistake for the DT administration to feed Flynn to the black hats that also assisted via Bezos who works with the CIA feeding the fake news about Flynn to the WP. The CIA does not like Flynn and vice versa. This was a misstep by the DT administration especially after the FBI already cleared Flynn after investigating these fake charges and vouched that he was guilty of anything improper or false.
    Having said that the black hats won this one and have began the intensity in their planned coup against this administration. The Obama et al are forming the new shadow government as we speak behind his newly erected wall around his rented mansion 2 miles from the white house. Having collected 45 million dollars for his OFA he and Soros are given orders to their 30,000 shock troops against the DT administration and citizens/supporters of DT.
    The accusation by FOX news today that a Russian spy ship was patrolling off the coast of Delaware were also fake news to continue saber rattling against Russia. Russian was in international waters and rightfully being there as reported at Zero Hedge.
    Trump needs to clear house with the leaks within his own circle starting with Priebus and going from there. In the meantime Pompeo just travelled to Saudi Arabia and award the Vice prince and whahhabist terror exporter the ‘George Tenet Freedom Metal’ for his exemplary work and assistance in the WOT. This is just bad optics all around. Why is this man in Saudi Arabia providing those who kill our troops and are involved in ach coup during the past 8+ years being honored?
    Nor has the three muslim brotherhood bothers and spies who set up our SEALS for ambush while informing AQ that we were coming. Not a peep despite the Obama administration placing these brothers into positions of secret military op and intelligence access while they hacked Wasserman’s computer and removed intelligence equipment?

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  18. Arjun says:

    Knowing that Sundance did not like the Flynn appointment, back in November, leaves me with mixed feelings about Flynn’s dismissal.

    In any case, this is definitely not about Pence-Flynn conversation. Typically, such matters would be resolved by a private apology by Flynn to Pence and Pence stating that Flynn ‘misspoke’ and he repeated Flynn’s assertion on TV.

    To sacrifice a few weeks old NSA advisor over a ‘conversation about a conversation’, gives me the feeling that there is more to it than meets the eye.

    Liked by 3 people

  19. Jesse1976 says:

    I hope I didn’t miss this upthread, but it appears to only be about 90 minutes old so I doubt that I am. This article really says alot about what really happened to Flynn: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/former-obama-officials-loyalists-waged-campaign-oust-flynn/

    The article claims that sources confirm that Obama’s insiders were responsible for getting Flynn out. Very disconcerting article but worth the read. Eli Lake, who the article quotes, is clearly an anti-Trumper, but the information he provides is only a small part of the article.

    Liked by 1 person

  20. georgiafl says:

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  21. Dems B. Dcvrs says:

    “Well, here’s my take”

    Time to find out who / whom inside Intel community is leaking information to Press – regardless of their motives. This is not a case of Whistle-blowing. These leaks are intentional act to take down Presidency, and acts of Sedition or Treason against United States of America.

    Who / Whom ever is behind the leaks needs to be arrested, charged, tried, and if found guilty very publicly executed.

    Liked by 5 people

  22. screwauger says:

    I am upset and confused. I’m going to take my better half out for Valentines Dinner and will wait for SD’s analysis and opinions. Those will clarify the day/week. Meanwhile we are about to record our 44th inch of snow in four days….gas up the snowmobiles!!!


  23. PBR Street Gang says:

    The General seems to be tad upset with our POTUS…


  24. wjb105 says:

    Flynn is KIA. There will be more. A battle is being fought.

    Liked by 1 person

  25. G3 says:

    The Schumer video of him saying “Let me tell you the Intel Community have six ways to Sunday at getting back at you” needs to be posted and played day in and day out.

    Liked by 3 people

  26. NHVoter says:


  27. IMO says:

    The Dispensable Mike Flynn! – STEVE PIECZENIK TALKS

    “Many civilians in the massive USG bureaucracy should be frightened. They too realize that they are disposable.That’s why we elected the “Fixer” Donald Trump to create a smaller federal government and a larger private sector.
    Remember the Republic is intact and quite healthy. Heads will roll in order to make the USG more streamline and productive for the 21 st century. Thank you POTUS Trump!”


  28. NHVoter says:

    Oh no!


    • J Miller says:

      The Flynn situation is a perfect example of why everyone needs to be aware that Obama still has a LOT of power and will continue to use it to undermine Trump’s presidency. Obama is not gone he, along with the UniParty, will work tirelessly throughout Trump’s term in office to destroy his successes. Never forget that we are in a war and winning the election was only the winning of one battle. In no way was it the winning of the war. We have a long, long, LONG road ahead.

      Liked by 1 person

    • benifranlkin says:

      Laura Ingraham said this earlier today…maybe she’s the leaker


  29. andymilken says:

    We all need to stay focus on the big picture. The daily minutia will continue as long as our president is still there. We are behind him all the way. We all know this is a part of the “spider web or deep state” or whatever it is that is our president is trying to dismantle it. The theme will continue about the Russian narrative. I am very sure the president was not expecting this, but he should have because the “signal” was out there, before and after the election. It will pass as he will figure out a way to divert this “attention” to something else. Regarding Gen Flynn issue, the tactics were slimy, but that is politics. It is dirty.

    As an individual who claimed to be an expert in intelligence and security, his judgment did not reassure my faith in his position as a leading advisor on our national security apparatus. He walked right into their trap, and he jeopardized the president’s position, regardless if the leaks were legitimate or not. He should have known better, period. It seems to me he is the kind of an attention seeker. Not good for a principal intelligent officer. Same as Gen Petraeus (hopefully our president does not pick him) But it will be hard because who else out there that shares his vision, part of the “tripod,” Gen Flynn, Gen Kelly, and Gen Mattis. They used to work together and shared similar views. One last thing, hopefully, my feeling is wrong, but don’t have a good “vibe” about the vice president, before and now.

    I would encourage people to read this piece- http://www.voltairenet.org/article195279.html. It is the best analysis of our president’s strategic thinking by far.


  30. gary says:

    I think I read that is was Pence that got Flynn’s fired from the Trump compaign for mis-leading Pence. That was a few months ago. Now Pence has same problem with Flynn about communication situation.

    This situation could be that Pence has a communication problem himself, and if Trump confronted him with it, Pence threatened to resign.

    Pence is NOT to be trusted. He was a Ted Cruz supporter. Trump had to pick someone from the swamp who could calm down the DC swamp creatures.

    Now, Trump had to decide who to get rid of, the Pence of Flynn.

    Something is not right, smells fishy.

    Was the plan all along to get Trump elected, then impeach him and put in Pence. If so, Pence and Prebuis could be getting their orders from Ryan.

    We are all speculating , because this does seem so strange less than one month into Trump’s term.

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    • gary says:

      sorry, I meant to say in the first sentence that is was Flynn’s son that was let go of in the fall for lying to Pence.

      And now same exact thing happened that Pence is responsible for getting Flynn fired too, for mis-leading him.

      Very fishy.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Timmy-the-Ute says:

      Pence is a very nice person, but he is not the brightest lightbulb in the chandelier. He was chosen because he was not a direct threat to Trump. He won’t actively conspire against Trump but he can to manipulated by Trump’s opponents into thinking he can save the Republic if he goes along with an impeachment. Christie would have been a better VP. He is smart and has fewer ideals.


    • Doppelgänger says:

      I agree. This is my first comment on any website. I like the Treehouse. I think Pence said it’s him or me and Trump should have taken Pence’s resignation and made Flynn his new VP. I’m sure the political fallout would have been consuming; maybe Trump will take this route later when his Cabinet and Senate approved executives are in place.

      Pence is defending the deep state. Flynn’ deputy was denied compartmented access to drug smuggling info regarding the Venesualian Vice President and that’s what brought Pence’s ultimatum, IMO. Drugs are part of Trump’s agenda and Pence was going to take on the deep state on this.

      What I think.


  31. Trump's Aussie Mates says:

    Without understanding all the details of why Gen. Flynn had to go, I am confident that this resignation will send a very clear message to the swamp that everyone is dispensable (even great supporters of PDJT) and that nobody is immune. Whilst you may have created a short-term ‘win’ for the dark side, you must be increasingly paranoid that your own performance and values are being scrutinised to ensure that you are putting America first.


  32. redchick67SS says:

    I usually only lurk here…I never seem to feel as knowledgeable as most of you are on these issues, so I try to sit back and just soak in the info. My gut tells me that this was some sort of set up by PDJT and that Flynn was in on it. I think that Flynn knows so much about the inner workings of the swamp that he couldn’t be as effective in helping to drain it as he wanted to be in such a high profile position and that he believes he can do more good working “underground” so to speak. Something just feels “off” to me about this. I think PDJT was fully aware of what he was walking into and the level of outright sabotage he would encounter. We know he’s a brilliant man and feel confident that this is all part of his long game. We might not know the strategy right now, but like always…it will become clear. God’s hand touched this election and gave us PDJT and that didn’t happen for no reason. He has a plan so I will trust in it and I will continue to keep the faith and pray for our POTUS and his family.

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  33. wyntre says:

    Katherine Herridge (of Fox News) reported that that the leaks are coming from one of the highest levels of the United States government.

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  34. Howie says:

    The president will turn the tables on these Deep Swamp Birdbrains. They are too stupid to win this one. Some even think the President is tweeting secrets to a Russian Trawler off the NE Coast. They all win a Unit Citation Award…The coveted Krazy KuKu!

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  35. Red says:

    If they illegally wire tapped Flynn’s conversation with the Russian Ambassador and then leaked it, why was McCain not wire tapped when he called the PM of Australia????

    Liked by 1 person

    • Trump's Aussie Mates says:

      No need to wire tap either of those persons, as they would each have likely supplied authenticated tapes of such conversations to their preferred MSM outlets.


  36. gary says:

    Pence is the problem and will continue to be the problem.

    Trump had no problems with Flynn, he was with Trump from the beginning of this. Flynn NEVER mislead Trump, never. I don’t believe it for one moment.

    Pence is the problem, I noticed when Pence was being interviewed by the media, he slants things and seems to take the stand that ” well Trump sometimes says things in a way that is upsetting, let me explain it in more MSM friendly way.

    It was Pence and Pence alone responsible for this Flynn being let go of.

    Not sure what Trump can do about it. Do you have any ideas?

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  37. wyntre says:

    GOP Intelligence chairman: FBI needs to explain why Michael Flynn was recorded

    “I expect for the FBI to tell me what is going on, and they better have a good answer,” said Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which is conducting a review of Russian activities to influence the election. “The big problem I see here is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.”


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  38. jeans2nd says:

    This witchhunt really may have begun when Obama announced the last Russian sanctions right before he (Obama) left office.

    Enter Obama Russian ambassador Michael McCaul and Uri Friedman of the Atlantic, re: Russian “interference” in the elections, 30 Dec 2016.

    FTA “The entire government is on board (with the sanctions), there’s no division. For him (Trump) to come in and reverse…(the sanctions), he’s going to have to have a national-security explanation for why he’s…(reversing the sanctions). There will be people extremely upset who work in our intelligence community if, just in the name of getting along with Russia, we reverse this.”

    Good grief these people are evil. They told us. We did not believe it. phooey

    And leaking sigint?
    (int’l morse)

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  39. jdvalk says:

    Another takeaway from this is the reported efforts of Barry admin official Ben Rhodes, who of course has close family directing a main stream media outlet:



  40. navysquid says:

    I am not going into great detail but as I have mentioned in the past on LTG Flynn, he a great soldier and a man of fine character. I have worked in the same fields as he and been on the same battlefield. He was played or I should say he fell on his sword here FOR Pres Trump. He knows the inside game of the intelligence community and knows the internecine battles between DIA, CIA, DOD, etc and turf battles that go on here. THIS came from the upper mngmt of the CIA…

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