Visa Suspension, NATO and Voices From The Deep State…

The level of absurdity from the official media channel of the U.S. Department of State, CNN, is reaching new levels of Tokyo Rose disinformation and propaganda.


♦ ‘President Trump’s temporary pause and reassessment of visa approvals, combined with the implementation of “extreme vetting” will make our mid-east allies unhappy’… they say.

♦ ‘President Trump’s request for a reevaluation of our relationship and structure with NATO will make our European allies unhappy’…. they say.

Let’s think about this factually and logically.  Who are these “mid-east allies” who would be upset?  Seriously, think about it.

President Trump has already formed good foreign policy relationships with: Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel),  Fattah Abdel el-Sisi (Egypt), King Abdullah II (Jordan), King Salman (Saudi Arabia) and influential agent Vladimir Putin (Russia).  OK, so these guys are in the “All Good” column of ongoing discussions etc.

Syria (Bashir Assad) is trying to put a country together from the ashes of a civil war started by Obama’s support of the Muslim Brotherhood.  Libya has no central government thanks to Obama/Clinton/Rice/S.Power , and is in a state of total governmental crisis.  Yemen is even worse than Libya and Iran is now testing ballistic missiles.

So what ally exactly is going to be “unhappy” with a Trump policy enhanced visa scrutiny?   Seriously.  Genuine question.  Who?  Who over there is going to be unhappy?

Turkey?  They are not on the restriction list. (though IMHO they should be).

See how quickly the stupidity of all that falls apart.

OK, moving on…  NATO.

Nato Countries

Brexit is ongoing to remove the U.K. from the European Union (27 member states).  Prime Minister Theresa May and President Trump are earnestly working on bilateral trade and security.  U.S.A and England are on good terms and Winston Churchill looks daily upon President Trump’s desk.

France is attempting to join the U.S. and U.K. amid team freedom with Frexit.  Election forthcoming. The non socialist “normies” in France always get along with Americans.  Heck, without us they’d be speaking German in The Louvre.  Their election is a few months away, and the freedom candidate Marine Le Pen is in the lead.

So that leaves Germany’s Angela Merkel and 25 EU countries (26 if they let in Turkey).  And they have been talking for over a decade about putting an EU defense force, and EU military together.

What exactly do they still need NATO for?

If the EU is indeed an assembled group of unity nations, like they claim it to be, then why can’t they form their own version of NATO?

NATO was a cold-war structure to defend a group of nations from attack from any nation; by outlining an attack against one was an attack against all.

Sixty years later the EU formed a united assembly with a set of similar uniting cultural principles. There’s 25, maybe 26, of them all united in Brussels.

What do they need us for?


The U.S. could just as easily create a defense and treaty alliance with the U.K. and France and go from there.

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161 Responses to Visa Suspension, NATO and Voices From The Deep State…

  1. Sandra says:

    That’s the latest meme. I heard it several times this morning from guests on Fox Business. Oh we should be so worried that other country’s might be upset by our entry and immigration rules. Do the Dems pass out daily talking points or something?

    Liked by 25 people

    • NATO is like welfare for countries other than the US, paid for by the US. Just another example of the America Last policies of the liberals. The Dems don’t need daily talking points, they are always in autopilot America Last mode.

      Liked by 21 people

      • Matt Musson says:

        After the wall fell – the Senior President Bush (yes it has been that long) set up a study group to determine how NATO should evolve or die. He was voted out before they produced a road map. And, no one else has bothered until now.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Flair1239 says:

        Good Comment. Makes me Remember that during the campaign whenever Trump talked about our allies “paying their fair share”, the Left/Media flipped out.

        Once you remove all of the hysteria, and remember that those countries presumably benefit from being able to defend against attacks… you wonder why that statement is even remotely controversial?

        I admit that I may be too in favor of “hands off” foreign policy these days. However, I have not heard anyone explain convicingly why we should be prepared to go to war for Syria or the Ukraine. They say “strategically important”,I guess if you are into constant intervention, that statement could be true.

        Truth be known I also have reservations about what good evicting ISIS will do. I would agree that “to make an example” we probably should. But the Iranians are just going to end up controlling that territory either directly or indirectly anyhow. Either that, or some other group of radicals will fill in behind.

        My prescription for the middle east is containment. Pure and simple. Take steps to make sure that no country in the region is able to project power beyond the region.


    • No, the council on foreign relations does the passing out of daily talking points. They are deep state talking points.

      Liked by 15 people

    • aknakon says:

      Yes they do.


    • conservalicious says:

      ”Do the Dems pass out daily talking points or something?”

      In a word, yes.

      Liked by 1 person

    • WVPatriot says:

      Yes, since time immemorial.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Robie Catt says:

      If the President had any information that a terrorist attack was imminent around the Super Bowl , I would think we would have to trust the president to do all he could to prevent it.

      Unfortunately but rationally, we cannot expect the presiden to share this info with us at the present time. Hypothetical, sure. But plausible.

      I will give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

      Liked by 2 people

    • screwauger says:

      Yes, yes they do (more correctly, The UniParty).

      Liked by 1 person

    • georgiafl says:

      “Do the Dems pass out daily talking points or something?”

      Somebody does – and – they have been doing it since Clinton was caught with the intern.

      Maybe sooner.

      The News and Intelligence agencies are working together on this for the big BIG BIG money globalist powers that be.

      Liked by 4 people

    • rashamon says:

      “Do the Dems pass out daily talking points or something?”

      Absolutely. But is larger than the DimDems; it’s a cabal of elitists who have made trillions, as Sundance notes, since WWII off of manipulating the world markets and politics for the benefit of the few. Without conflicts, skirmishes, all out wars and other crises (i.e. AIDs/HIV, global warming, food shortages), they can’t scare the citizens of the largest countries into approving huge military, pharma, GMO, etc. budgets where it is most easy to hide Dark Money from which they take their profits.

      How much money is missing from the U.S. State Department alone since Rumsfeld admitted $2.8 trillion disappeared back in 2001? And more recently, another $10 trillion. What about other countries?

      The media is complicit as they thrive off of a continuing crisis mode. To get your news, you tune in, you click on a blog or Facebook, the sites sell advertising for ????? They make money.

      Liked by 3 people

      • DGinGA says:

        I wonder how long President (and businessman) Trump will tolerate vast sums of OUR MONEY disappearing from the budgets of these Departments? How long will a Cabinet Secretary get away with saying in a Cabinet meeting, “Mr. President, I have NO IDEA where that $3 TRILLION went.” He would likely hear the President’s voice saying the immortal words “You’re FIRED!”

        I can’t wait for President Trump to put a ban on taxpayer funding for STUPID research grants. God knows we spend hundreds of millions on c*ap.

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    • farmhand1927 says:

      Reportedly, over 900 State Dept employees have signed a letter of dissent abt the immigration pause that mirrors Obama’s immigration pause that they never said jack about.

      There’s 900+ firings that should happen as soon as Secretary of State Tillerson hangs up his coat on Day One in his new office. There are 900+ qualified, loyal Americans that eagerly would take those jobs–Americans that put the safety of our families ahead of political stupidity.

      Get ’em out.

      Liked by 8 people

    • WSB says:

      Yes, they do.


    • DGinGA says:

      And, quite honestly, WHO CARES what those countries think? They need us more than we need them. Period. For example, while pulling our military bases out of Europe would hamper our efforts to do battle In the Middle East, it would severely harm the economies of those countries and would make them far more vulnerable. The European countries have had the luxury of spending money on Socialism all these years because they have not had to spend as much on defense. We have protected them and they hate us for it. Fine. Let them see how well they do on their own.

      Liked by 2 people

    • don welch says:

      is that a rhetorical question?


    • Why should the US care what other countries think about our entry and immigration rules when it comes to our National Security? They don’t take us into account when they make decisions? Did the EU and Merkel ask our opinion about opening the gates of Europe to the invasion? Argggh!


    • Orygun says:

      If you listen to the repetition of talking points. I would say the answer to that question is yes. It is like a cage full of mynah birds all mimicking the other. The NeverTrumpers seem to be on the same email list.


    • snailmailtrucker says:

      Absolutely they pass out Talking Points….directly from The New York Times !


  2. telerider says:

    NATO is the only thing that keeps them from ripping each others throats out..

    Liked by 4 people

  3. Summer says:

    The only entity that benefits from the existence of NATO is the same entity that benefits from the ME chaos — the military-industrial complex.

    Liked by 11 people

  4. NeverSuspect says:

    Here’s a new organization I think the U.S. should join. It’s called “Don’t screw with us, else we’ll blow you the h3ll up! K? Now, let’s be friends.”

    Liked by 13 people

  5. Sentient says:

    O/T (or not). How long are we going to keep bombing in Yemen? Why?

    Liked by 5 people

    • Bull Durham says:

      There’s still a few Yemenis we haven’t bombed or starved to death.
      So, we have to kill them.

      Besides, they kicked us out, CIA, Special Forces, CENTCOM.

      If the Yemenis live, Saudi Arabia is in trouble.
      We have always sent military to save the Kingdom. You know how good they’ve been in return.

      And the final reason: because we can’t win anywhere else and maybe, we can get a victory there. How else are we going to justify spending Trillions?

      Liked by 8 people

      • Sentient says:

        Trump is already getting blamed for the death of a Navy Seal and the 8 year old (American?) daughter of American terrorist Anwar Al Awlaki.

        Liked by 3 people

        • JoAnn Leichliter says:

          I am puzzled as to why the little girl would be consideredban American. Her father had clearly left the country in order to fight a war against it, thereby, one would think, setting aside his citizenship. Or is citizenship now somehow, like Baptism, an indellible mark on the soul? Certainly the child was never under (nor intended to be) our “care, custody and control.”

          Liked by 5 people

        • maiingankwe says:

          I have a great deal of respect for you Sentient, and I know without a doubt you have the utmost respect for our Navy SEALs. Their name is an ancronym, SEa, Air, Land, and therefore always capitalized. I know some who wince every time they see their name spelled after an animal, or are they mammal like a whale? Sheesh, I should know this. Anyways, please spell their name as an acronym. I’m sure some could care less and are used to it, but I know you wouldn’t want to offend even one of them.

          Thank you.

          Liked by 1 person

          • Sentient says:

            Will do. I sincerely appreciate the education. Being, at heart, a non-joiner and coward, I have great respect for the SEALs.

            Liked by 2 people

          • fuzzi says:

            Thanks for that explanation, I did not know about capitalizing SEAL. I’ll do that from now on.

            Liked by 1 person

          • Mac says:

            Why I agree with you that. as an acronym for the proper name of an organization, SEAL should be capitalized, the name was chosen to produce the acronym. They are part of the Naval Special Warfare Command and could have been called Naval Special Forces, Naval Commandos, Special Naval Infantry or any of a dozen other things, all of which would have been descriptive of their function. However, the Navy settled on Sea, Air, Land for no other reason than to get a cool, naval sounding acronym. And, under the normal rule of acronyms, they should probably be called SALs, not SEALs. This, however makes them sound like a farmer’s daughter with pigtails from Nebraska or a loan shark from New Jersey. While both can be dangerous, they hardly fit into the Naval mystique.

            In the immortal words of a fictional U.S.Army sergeant, “Lighten up, Francis.”


        • maiingankwe says:

          Oh, the link didn’t work for me. I forgot to mention that. CNN said it could either be my fault, or it couldn’t be found. Yeah, sure, always someone else’s fault. Typical for cnn.

          Could you please try it and see if it will work? I’d appreciate it. Thank you.

          Liked by 1 person

        • Larry says:

          Call me horrible but I don’t miss the daughter of an American terrorist one bit.

          Liked by 1 person

        • jonvil says:

          The father is 100% responsible for the safety of his daughter.

          Liked by 1 person

    • On behalf of the Saudis. I fully expect President Trump to use that need to rein them in.


    • filia.aurea says:

      Thousands have died, and about 300,000 currently starving to death while bombs rain out of the sky. This is a continuation of Barrack Hussein’s FUBAR, Joint Chiefs recommended our POTUS continue. It must STOP, and food needs to be airdropped. Images of little children laying there, too weak to move, emaciated. Literally sickening.


  6. Troublemaker says:

    Kuwait banned four of the same countries on Trump’s list plus Pakistan back in 2011. I don’t remember there being global protests or Kuwait being called anti-Muslim.

    Flash from the past….

    Kuwait bans visa issuance to five nationalities
    Nationals from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan banned from entering Kuwait

    Liked by 16 people

  7. Why do we need any military alliance? We are more than capable of defending ourselves.. most of these alliances are beneficial to the other side freeloading on our soldiers and tax payers..

    Liked by 8 people

    • Sandra says:

      It does benefit us to prevent smaller countries from being overtaken by Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, or a host of other countries notorious for invasions. But the freeloading has to stop, that’s for sure.

      Liked by 5 people

    • DGinGA says:

      According to a friend who served in the Joint Forces Command, we would be better off if we fought all wars with only the Brits, Canadians and Aussies. According to him, the rest of the NATO armies are pretty useless – and are, in fact, a detriment to our ability to wage effective campaigns. Using those other forces is purely political.

      Liked by 2 people

    • louche9 says:

      The alliances are sought mostly for show, so that America can pretend to not be taking unilateral military actions everywhere. It’s certainly true, for example, that we don’t need 14 Norwegian soldiers who refuse to take prisoners, just to say that Norway is involved.

      IMO, our future military adventures need to be unilateral, and brief. These “coalitions” we always have to form are an expensive pain in the rear, and other than the Brits, Aussies and New Zealanders, probably not all that militarily useful.

      Enough incessant war. We have a country to stabilize and fortify. I don’t even want to think about what could’ve been done here with the trillions we’ve pissed up a rope in the Middle East.


  8. rsanchez1990 says:

    Logically, nothing the media says makes sense. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can begin advancing as a nation again instead of constantly fighting ourselves over fake news.

    Our mid-east allies will gladly take care of themselves if it means the US will stop trying to seed chaos there all the time. It will save us a lot of time, money, and headache over time if we keep the Syrians (and Somalians, Libyans, etc) in the Middle East instead of insisting they come here, fail to assimilate, and try to impose their incompatible values on our society.

    The compassionate thing to do isn’t to let them all in, it’s to fix Obama’s and Hillary’s messes and let them stay over there.

    As far as NATO goes, frankly why should we give a rat’s ass if Germany is not happy with us? If they don’t like it they can pound dirt.

    Liked by 20 people

    • tampa2 says:

      I believe Mr. Trump feels the same. I do, anyway.

      Liked by 7 people

    • aur1640 says:

      rsanchez, Germany can not only pound dirt, we can ditch them like hoes since the ME likes to treat them that way!!

      Liked by 2 people

    • Wavetheshales says:

      It’s globalist-controlled Brussels (the EU), and their Satan Soros puppets (Merkel, Hollande, etc.) who aren’t happy. The folks in Germany who will be voting AfD (including a lot who don’t talk about it the same way some deplorables couldn’t talk) are quite happy with the USA, and in particular with Donald Trump and what he is doing.

      We have a whole lot of swamps here that need draining. We also need a Trumpf to lead the AfD. (Idiot Presstitutes (CNN, etc.) think “Drumpf “is a proper spelling – they can’t even spell/write English correctly, and they’re trying to spell German?)

      Liked by 3 people

  9. Brett says:

    I was under the assumption that everybody hated us…at least that was what the ‘apology tour’ was for, right?

    Liked by 8 people

    • Kintbury says:

      I have learned that when other countries hate us, it really means they cannot get anything out of us. When they love us, we are getting royally screwed.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Sandra says:

        Yes! Mexico used to hate us, until we bent over. China too. And then as soon as we say “Hey, we’re going to start taking care of ourselves like we ought to” they get mad.

        Liked by 2 people

  10. SharonKinDC says:

    Sundance, I suspect part of the reason for a lingering NATO is US/UK & likely FR (plus some others) DON’T want Germany in charge of an Army ever again. As the largest economy in Europe, they’ll run the show, just like they do w/i the EU framework.

    That said, I’d be willing to take a look at something different. Do feel for Poland, Czech Rep, Hungary, etc, who will ALWAYS fear the Bear…and the Krauts.

    Liked by 6 people

  11. Sandra says:

    Maybe we should take all of those young male Syrian “refugees”, send them to boot camp, and then ship them back to Syria where they can defend their own country.

    Liked by 2 people

  12. hugofitch1 says:

    Make our mideast allies unhappy? The ones who haven’t taken in any refugees?

    Liked by 6 people

  13. Bull Durham says:

    The US has been a Hegemon to Europe since the Marshall Plan. It is the word’s Hegemon since 1991. Alliances are devices to give dominant nations (USA) bases and proliferation of its military equipment to allies. That drives down cost per unit if you make more than you need and have someone who has to buy it.

    We get political control over the allies. We get economic influence over the allies.

    Elites, corporations and military all benefit from alliances. The US doesn’t, but the top echelon does.

    Of course, with NATO, it must have a very dangerous enemy to justify its existence. Not to fight the enemy, just to point to and shout about. NATO big wigs want a war, but not most of the military who have to fight that very dangerous enemy.

    Now, there is a real enemy for NATO. ISIS/AQ. But NATO is built and armed to fight that very dangerous enemy (which it really can’t fight but talks like it can easily fight).

    So, with a real very dangerous enemy it is not built to fight and a very dangerous enemy it points to and shouts about, NATO is in a bind. It really can’t fight either enemy. The very real one taking over Europe and the very fake one it points to and shouts about are actually the worst nightmare for NATO. They can’t do what they are expected to do.

    This alliance is an invitation to a war the US shows it has no conception how to win. The war against ISIS/AQ has been going on since 1993. NY, Blind Sheik, WTC garage bombing.

    We haven’t fought the very dangerous enemy NATO is built to fight because Russia, that enemy, would destroy NATO in 3-6 days across Baltic, Ukraine, Black Sea and Balkans if NATO attacked.

    US has ISIS/AQ to deal with. Russia is not going to attack any part of Europe/NATO.

    The best ally for the fight to destroy ISIS/AQ is Russia.
    NATO should devolve into many regional anti-terror forces that can deal with ISIS/AQ inside the European cities.

    Anyone who continues to insist there is a need for NATO to confront Russia has the burden of describing what that war would look like. I say it would be a nuclear war in minutes, ratcheted from tactical nukes to strategic ICBMs in less than twenty minutes. There is no scenario of a different war.

    Thus, NATO is useless. It protects nothing. It can win no war. It worked when there was a Warsaw Pact of USSR and Eastern Europe nations. It should be ended and an anti-terror should be its goal as it is disassembled.

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    • tampa2 says:

      The only repellents to Nuclear War are the U.S., Russia and China. NATO is a farce, relying solely on the U.S. to fund “actionable resistance” to NATO’s cowardly “allegiance” to the Western World. NATO is the pussy-whipped arm of the UN. Worthless, for sure.

      Liked by 1 person

      • LP says:

        China according to you has a stellar record with North Korea. China has been allied with Pakistan (another nuclear state) and was super pissed off with the Russians and their Afghanistan invasion and their meddling in North Vietnam.

        Interesting analysis. You should start a blog/

        Liked by 1 person

  14. Garrison Hall says:

    Trump is in the process of literally scaring the pee out of The Left and The Deep State. He’s doing this because for the first time in a very long time, recent history perhaps, we have a president who not only recognizes what the problem is, but also knows how to deal with it. The UniParty, The Deep State, and the rest of the DC/NYC apparat has always prided itself on being impervious to meaningful change. The reason it could do this is because most elected officials quickly became co-opted by either being invited inside the culture of corruption or, rarely, being so intimidated by it they were persuaded to live and let live. This latter happens more often than you might imagine. American politics is sprinkled with high-minded people who refused to join in the corruption but who reached an accommodation with the apparat: so long as they didn’t make too much trouble, they’d be allowed to hang aground and have what passes for a real political career. If you’ve ever wondered why your politicians were reluctant to make obvious changes in keeping with their campaign promises, one of these two reasons is why.

    There are a lot of these sorts of people in DC. Right now they are as terrified of what Trump is about to do as their hard left and globalist neighbors. A good analogy of what they’re experiencing can be taken from the theory of codependency. A common characteristic of abused people is that they often identity so strongly with their abuser that they come to see their abuse as something they deserve. The RINOs in congress are a lot like this. Imagine basing your entire political career on maintaining the lie that you are a legitimate representative of your constituency when, in fact, you have cut a deal with the people you’re supposed to oppose and so, over time, your very survival has come to depend on the goodwill of rank scumbags. For many in congress this kind of humiliation has gone on for decades.

    No wonder so many elected officials spend so much time with their noses in bottles. But, while they’ve gotten used to the abuse, perhaps even accepted it in a way as right and just, what they are completely unprepared for is having their entire reason and justification for existing removed by Trump. Like an abused codependent spouse, the prospect of freedom—the thought that their formidable abusers are going to be stripped of their power over others is often more terrifying than continuing to put up with life with a abuser. They may not like the abuse but have become used to it. even understand it in a way. But what they are absolutely terrified of, what they’ll actually work to undermine Trump for, is being forced to publicly recognize, publicly admit what their political lives were really like. Being shown that their pretenses of “governing” of “reaching across the aisles” were nothing more than lame excuses to hide the reality of their grovelling subservience is too much for the Quisling class to bear. Like many corrupted people, they probably never thought it would come to this. Yet, this is exactly what Trump proposes to do. DRAIN THE SWAMP!!

    Liked by 16 people

    • Beverly says:

      Astute analysis. You’re right.

      Liked by 2 people

    • piper567 says:

      CS Lewis wrote a marvelous little essay entitled, Membership. Those so inclined might consider reading it.
      He cautions young men against getting sucked into thinking they are a permanent part of “a thing”, as it will start them on a descent into moral depravity…which will then become the norm for them.
      this is an historical trap.
      live and learn…unless you are a Dem.


    • Mr. Morris says:

      Trent Lott was the majority leader of the Senate when Pres. George W. Bush was elected President. At times during Lott’s tenure he spoke of getting the new members of the Senate in line. He showed them “how things worked”. His statement and actions were both revealing and chilling. It is time to drain the dark uni-party swamp. The legislators should work for “we the people”.


  15. Whatever Trump does he HAS to keep rolling these out about every 36 hours to keep the ‘splody heads, ‘splodying! I figure within 6 months of near daily ‘splodying heads and associated protests/riots, Joe and Marge Six Pack are going to be so sick of hearing about them, not even the dinosaur media will bother covering them anymore.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Sentient says:

      Yeah, libs. Don’t put your pink pussy hats away.


    • piper567 says:

      entirely agree, Michael. Was talking to my Apt Manager the other day, and she said she and her husband just turn this stuff off, wonder how (rioters) these people support themselves, and how can congresscritters just Not Show Up?
      we should applaud their idiocy.


  16. nightmare on k st says:

    they need the USA to pay for NATO

    Liked by 4 people

  17. Illegal says:

    Bureaucracies are hard to change or get rid of once they are entrenched even if their original goal is no longer valid. The only way to change them is to coopt their mission. Trump is correct that NATO needs to be transformed. Maybe they could be rebranded as a force to assist with natural disaster assistance. Downsize their budget and manpower.

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  18. jackk says:

    What’s happening in France is nothing short of incredible. The 2 designated mainstream candidates (Valls & Juppé) failed to qualify to represent the left and the right. In fact the ‘system’ has understood after Trump’s election how unpopular party politician are at the moment, and that being an apparent outsider that transcends party is a big winner. That’s why we have those crazy upsets and that’s especially why the European msm is pushing Macron so hard. Macron is France’s Clinton, a former banker and minister, pro immigration, corporatist and progressive. He’s running on his own and is nearly in the lead, but you can be sure once he wins he will create a new party from the ashes of the socialist party and we’ll get another hollande for 5 years. He’s a trap and people are falling for it.
    Fillon from the tradionnal right has a serious economic program and is a real christian but he’s too weak for the position, at best he’s a regionnal politician. He couldn’t stand critics and abandonned his Pro-Russian stances by distancing himself from one of his party’s congressman visit to Syria, He also critized Israel. Very dangerous moves. He is in deep trouble right now because like all politician he’s abused his position. We know he’s in trouble because it’s being uncovered right now, the designated candidate is always protected from his former crimes until he gets into office (excelent blackmail for later)
    As for Marine, I know there’s a lot of fascination for her from Trump supporter but she is but a shadow of her father. He was called the French reagan back in the 80’s because of his laissez faire approach to the economy and was mainly concerned about getting the French demographics up while curbing immigration. He was also very Politicially incorrect. His daughter took over and had the opposite approach just when Trump showed that one could be elected fighting the media and the PC nazis. Her economic program is nearly Communist. Honestly Fillon would be better than her overall for France, she is too shallow and lacks the depth to stand up and resist pressure the way her father did. She would fold on immigration while Fillon would at least cut down the State a little.
    The last serious candidate is Melanchon, he’s got 30 years of political experience and he’s the only real politician of the bunch. Unfortunately he’s a super leftist, I am quite certain Hamon will desist himself in favor of melanchon so he could create some sort of suprise.
    All in all a very chaotic election which shows the french political system is dying before our eyes.

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  19. DebbieUK says:

    The EU may talk big but they are incapable of getting any sort of unified defence force together They are not a state or even a federation. Therefore it takes years for 27 nations to make a decision about anything let alone defence Look at the refugee debacle.

    NATO means they can keep the pretence up.

    Its ironic ,during the Brexit campaign ,many used the European defence force as a reason to stay in .Our safety depends on it etc etc.

    We realists understand that its NATO that has kept the peace in Europe all these years not the EU.
    In any case I firmly believe Brexit and possibly Frexit will be the beginning of the end for EU.

    If NATO stays in any form we should all shoulder the cost equally.

    Liked by 1 person

    • LP says:

      I agree with your analysis. With a few further points that must be considered. The EU has already pushed for its own defense force that would counter NATO and bring more chaos to an allied response to mutual threats. NATO restructured, policy modernised and paid for equally will keep us aligned even if the EU implodes. This is necessary and important. The future of geopolitical alignments is uncertain and NATO revamped is one deterrent to not only the middle east debacle but the two states that are factually expansionist: China (the south China sea) and Russia in Crimea and Ukraine. Many here will natter on about ‘justifications’ but the facts remain, they are expansionist states.

      As for Turkey, the jury is out. Let us see what side they stand with, caliphate or modernity. The ball is in their court.


    • Sentient says:

      Cost is one thing. Expanding ceaselessly is another. Neither Ukraine nor Georgia – birthplaces of Khrushchev and Stalin respectively – belong in NATO. Estonia hasn’t helped defend the US against invaders, and I don’t expect Macedonia would station troops on the US-Mexico border either. Tblisi’s a long way from the North Atlantic.


  20. VoleTech says:

    Force California to pay for the border wall by withholding 12B in federal grants from them.

    Liked by 2 people

  21. sagatel says:

    Trump needs


  22. Mike diamond says:

    The dems really are a bunch of cry babies, and drama queens ! No matter what obama did they said nothing ! He gave Iran every thing, they said nothing,now all of a sudden they are out raged!?

    Liked by 2 people

  23. sagatel says:

    President Trump needs to go after Soros big time. That ugly no good creature should be arrested for instigating violence against our government. Soros and others like him should be stopped now or this madness will not end soon.

    Liked by 4 people

  24. KBR says:

    It is time for NATO to worry that the US citizens are unhappy with NATO already!

    Of course NATO members are unhappy, with President Trump they might actually have to pay 2%, as they promised to do in 2014.
    Additionally, the US might cut back to 2% for NATO.

    It has been upset well before the XO was issued, this is just their latest excuse as to why they are upset. America shoukd be more upset with NATO than NATO is with America.

    The chart below represents money expenditures. Lives of sons and daughters spent for NATO is not included in any chart I can find.

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  25. KBR says:

    When God is left out, humans seek to create a religion without God.

    It is in the nature of mankind to have a religious group, mostly for the sake of their own power.

    It is in the nature of the saved to have a relationship with God and their fellow-saved.

    When the relationship with the gathering of the saved becomes an earthly-power-seeking group, instead of a spiritual-Power-of-God seeking group, the saved are lost sheep in a ditch.

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  26. georgiafl says:

    US leaders have committed dastardly deeds and entered vain wars since Carter and the Shah – maybe long before.

    Korea and Viet Nam were also more for the benefit of ‘military industrial complex’ than because of national necessity.

    Liked by 4 people

  27. quintrillion says:

    The US State department has decided to help drain the swamp by submitting a memo of 900 names. How considerate and obliging – we know you’re the stinkers, but thanks for the list.

    Liked by 4 people

  28. Tonawanda says:

    Because offending people and making them mad is the standard of analysis, maybe we should examine those highly insensitive cultural Sacred Cows which put us in peril with the rest of the world.

    I would like to start with Gay Rights, which is used as a recruitment tool by ISIS. Also, Equal Rights for women, another ISIS recruitment tool.

    The sensibilities of people who worship a hateful sociopath as their “god” must never be offended!

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  29. Tommy Tunes says:

    This outrage by the Left over extreme vetting of Immigrants and illegal immigration in general is about MONEY !!!!! And the MONEY that these Political Obstructionists get from the Federal Government through Donations from the NGO’s that benefit from Legal and Illegal Immigration operations ALSO is the MONEY that FEEDS to the MS MEDIA through Campaign advertising and other Political Advertising !!!!! Here is the BREAKDOWN on how this SWAMP works !!!!!
    Heres why the Politicians are Pissed off over Trump wanting to stop Illegal Immigration …..They want their Money ……
    The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

    Illegal immigration is a money-maker for everyone but taxpayers

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    • nimrodman says:

      Good post, Tommy, I’ve pointed to that reference several times since I became aware of it.

      The boiled-down message of that analysis is that low-education illegal immigrants will cost the US taxpayers $600,000 per immigrant over the immigrant’s lifetime, on average. Simply because they will consume more benefits than they ever contribute in taxes. Actually it was $594,000 at the time of the 2013 study but it’s been nearly 4 years and we all know inflation.

      Here’s a similar situation for Europe:

      The Death of Europe – How the Mohammed retirement plan will kill Europe

      “Europe expects the Muslim world to bail out its shrinking birth rate by working and paying into the system so that its aging population can retire. The Muslim migrants however expect Europe to subsidize their large families with its welfare state while they deal some drugs and chop off some heads on the side.

      “Why should 23-year-old Mohammed work for four decades so that Hans or Fritz across the way can retire at 61 and lie on a beach in Mallorca?

      “The Muslim migrants are meant to be the retirement plan for an aging Europe. They’re supposed to keep its ramshackle collection of economic policies, its welfare states and social programs rolling along.

      “Mohammed is Fritz’s retirement plan. But Mohammed has a very different type of plan. Fritz is counting on Mohammed to work while he relaxes. Mohammed relaxes and expects Fritz to work.

      “Europeans are being assured that the Mohammeds will balance out the demographic disparity of an aging population with too many retirees and too few younger workers.

      “But instead the Mohammeds will put even more pressure on the younger workers who not only have to subsidize their elders, but millions of Mohammeds, their multiple brides and their fourteen child Islamic retirement plans.”

      My friend married a Swedish woman, they live in the US but friends come to visit from Sweden. One confided that he’ll never reap promised benefits that he’s paid into his entire life because money is now freely handed out to support immigrants.

      The same holds for housing, the system used to be that you paid in and were on a waiting list, and were granted an apartment when you reached a certain age in young adulthood, and pending availability.

      Guess what’s happened to “availability”?

      “No soup for you!” Mr. Diligent Rule-Obeying Swede.


  30. The Boss says:

    Thanks to whomever monitors CNN for these articles. I simply cannot force myself to watch the CNN propaganda dispensers who claim to be Americans.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Bull Durham says:

      This is from a blog based in Crimea that covers the wars in Ukraine and Syria.
      The comment thread often is very astute. People from all over Europe, Russia, Ukraine comment.This is a Yandex translation.
      Note, CNN should be deprived of accreditation.
      People from completely foreign societies follow the US media scene and know in depth and subtlety what is occurring.

      2017-02-01 09:33 (UTC)
      The US administration refused to send representatives to CNN

      A press-the Secretary of Blog house Sean Spicer said that he is not going to “cooperate with people who have no desire to perceive the information correctly,” reports RT with reference to the Politico.
      (Reply) (thread) (to Deploy)

      2017-02-01 09:38 (UTC)
      Until they are completely deprive of accreditation – nothing will.
      (Reply) (higher Level) (Branch of discussion)


  31. freddiemacblog says:

    So, I’m not understanding why (per MSM) foreign states get a vote on our national security.

    Liked by 1 person

  32. There needs to be a directive issued to every employee of the CIA, Pentagon, and other intelligence agencies that if they are caught leaking information to news outlets they will face at a minimum – immediate dismissal if not more serious national security criminal charges.

    Also – if in fact the CIA is paying CNN to dispense propaganda these payments must cease immediately and the officials involved with the CNN liaison immediately fired. There should be no more reports from CNN and others based on “unnamed CIA officials” .

    There is no way a private company would tolerate employees leaking to the media – I don’t know why it is tolerated in the government.

    Liked by 2 people

  33. So when Trump issues a visa restriction and decides to take action to prevent illegal aliens from entering the country, the left explodes.

    But when Slick Willy Clinton suggested something similar actions back during his years, the left was silent?

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  34. Jenny R. says:

    When regarding NATO it is always best to remember why it was created in the first place: to keep America in, S. Union out, and Germany down. I’m not sure, given the current warm feelings that the first 2 are presenting a problem (although America definitely wants out, and Russia could at any moment want in the eastern countries….which would be problematic, because it is in the west where intervention would be most needed), but the last one is a definite threat in the near future.
    I have seen the “mighty” Bundeswehr; they don’t really scare me…but on a European scale they could cause a lot of mischief, and if Angela recruits her new pets (which there is a huge push to do) it could cause a lot of mischief.
    So I’m afraid we will have to have some sort of NATO type structure for quite a while…there is some room for self-expression though: create a new NATO perhaps???

    As for the ME, right now we have 3 groups vying for power: KSA, Turkey, and Iran. Turkey is perhaps the real problem; I’m pretty sure those missile tests were for KSA and Pakistan’s benefit…and watch that Turkey/Iran under the table snuggle fest that has been happening as of late (hopefully we are as well as Russia)…that leaves us with KSA for the “pals” category unfortunately. None of them is our friend, but we are just going to have to learn to be nimble, ready to shift alliance at the blink of an eye (towards whatever benefits us), and learn to keep them all at arm’s length (aka: no more “BFF” silly notions of foreign policy…without foreign influence/money this could become easier).


  35. fred5678 says:

    Screw the EU — it will be a muslim organization in 30 to 50 years anyway.


  36. majorstar says:

    I concur, sundance. A few days ago I posted these comments on another thread:
    Have read on BB where France and Germany have rebuked Trump on the refugee freeze, citing “Christian values”. Okay, now bear with me… can someone tell me why we maintain NATO to defend these suicidal idiots? NATO was about ONE THING: To protect Europe from Soviet conquest and prevent it (and the rest of the free world) from falling under the “Iron Curtain”. The Soviet Union is no more. The Iron Curtain and the Berlin Wall are gone. Russia is now one of the more Christian and conservative nations on the planet, and its people are free to come and go as they wish. It’s Europe who are destroying themselves with Muslim ingestion and globalist, “communistic” tendencies. In fact, it might be a good thing if Russia actually invaded and toppled these anti-Western governments in Europe, which are intent on exporting their agenda to the U.S.

    Sure, it would be “lawless” for Russia to invade, and no one likes that, but what is the real international threat to the U.S.? Seems like about the same level of “threat” were we to conquer Canada or Mexico. Lawless, but not a threat to humanity. Now any such scenarios are unlikely to occur in reality, but then what is the value of NATO? We shouldn’t spend such inordinate resources on these post-Cold War hypotheticals where doing so heightens tensions and creates greater risks of a meaningless war with a strong nation that isn’t an existential threat.

    And don’t forget how the Dems suddenly view NATO as a critical, unassailable alliance now that Russia isn’t their political ally. Always question the wisdom of that on which the left suddenly decides to place its highest value.


  37. These are traitors to the United States and if they only get fired it is too good for them. Everyone should be shot and their wives and children sold into sexual slavery. The president and his team will administer the right punishment for these treasonous parasites.


  38. SpanglishKC says:

    Sundance always a voice of reason. Man!… he’s been on a roll since the inauguration. Hard to get any work done when I more interested on seeing what his latest post is and catching the latest Treeper comments.

    There is welfare, corporate welfare and clearly country welfare. For their sake we need to get the Europeans off of American welfare becasue it weakens them AND us. Time for some tough love. Europeans need to put down their lattes and get to work just like the rest of us if they have any innterest in their cultures surviving.

    For Pax Americana to survive we need to get our house in order first. The. Sooner the better. Who better to shake up the system and bring new perspective and thinking than our man Trump!

    MEGA – Make Europe Great Again… kick them off the dole! Time for a little more guilty pleasure:


  39. vincentjappi says:

    Croatia and Albania are members of NATO.


  40. JohnPaulJohnes says:

    Interesting article: The Muslim Brotherhood In America


  41. UKExpat says:

    Seems the world is actually heading tor the Power Blocks as envisaged by George Orwell in his novel 1984 Oceania (UK USA Australia New Zealand Canada ) Eurasia ( EU Russia and Turkey) Eastasia (China Japan India Indonesia etc) . In essence we are very nearly there,


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