VP Debate Debrief – Petulant Kaine Exudes Instability During Vice-Presidential Debate Appearance…

A reminder.  Senator Tim Kaine has only been together with his running mate Hillary Clinton one time since the DNC convention.  They appeared together in Ohio on Labor Day (Sept 5th), that is the one and only time since the end of July.

That’s the reality backdrop for Kaines’ absolute failure to launch during the Vice-Presidential debate last night.  And… if there’s one thing as certain as the sun rise in the east tomorrow, it’s the truism that when anything impedes Hillary Clinton’s mission to achieve the presidency they are immediately rebuked.   Senator Tim Kaine better get a food taster ASAP.  ( <– Not Kidding)

The first test of a presidency is who they select for a Vice Presidential running mate. The single most important characteristic in that role is “stability“.


The Vice-Presidential nominee cannot be that creepy/sketchy guy at the end of the bar who hits on your 20-year-old daughter…. or worse.  Unfortunately, Senator Tim Kaine broke the cardinal rule: his behavior made the debate uncomfortable, weird and awkward.

To make matters even worse, Kaine’s petulance, arrogance and argumentative performance last night –constantly interrupting– reinforced a caricature of the Clinton ticket that already existed. An image of a nasty, vitriolic and ‘will-say-anything to gain political power for personal benefit‘ presidential campaign.

Hillary+Clinton+Hillary+Clinton+Hosts+Global+AmP5h95QQkwlYou can almost see/hear Hillary watching the debate with the ever-present legion of political sycophants and shrieking:

 “that jackass, I only picked him because of Virginia and he screwed me”…

[Throws glass of thick water through flat screen TV] Paul Begala peeks from behind the potted plant and knows not to start the spin just yet.  Everyone else heads for the exits.  Huma hangs out in the kitchen monitoring the twitter meltdown on her phone.

Yikes !!

“why aren’t I fifty points ahead you might ask” !

But seriously.   The Clinton team had a perfectly scripted plan of attack.  The canned narrative was to wedge Pence in a corner and sell the VP-candidate as not defending Donald Trump.

Remember, they simply repeat the road map they learned from Alinsky: “Isolate, Ridicule, Marginalize”.   To wit Kaine had one objective, focus on the “isolation” objective.

That’s why every response from Senator Kaine was trying to pit Governor Pence against running mate Donald Trump.  The MSM had the reinforcing message toward that objective already written in their post debate script and teleprompters.  What the MSM needed was a design narrative from the debate outcome where they could instantly refer to the plan and reinforce it.

However, Governor Pence artfully defended Trump; and not only defended the positions of the campaign, but factually embraced the campaign message as his own.  In essence, Pence provided no daylight for the Alinsky wedge.  Pence’s approach made the isolation angle impossible, although some MSM punditry (mostly CNN) did try to use it anyway.

Because Senator Kaine knew his entire objective was to create that wedge, he became increasingly belligerent when his various attempts therein were not working.  Kaine’s desperation grew more visible, and as a direct consequence his creepy meter quotient increased exponentially.  A massive stability failure.

Governor Mike Pence presented his positions and himself as abundantly loyal, thoughtful gracious, wise and exceptionally stable.  Mike Pence is the guy you want as your neighbor.  Perfect.  The perfect characteristics needed in a Veep candidate.

Mike Pence could not have done better.  No contest he won the day.

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835 Responses to VP Debate Debrief – Petulant Kaine Exudes Instability During Vice-Presidential Debate Appearance…

  1. Irons says:

    Watching Kaine was not only uncomfortable, it embarrassed me as an American. To think such rude, vulgar and unprincipled cretins like Kaine and Clinton can be in the top layer of American politics is mind boggling.
    God I hope we can start cleaning up this horrible mess and send people like this back to the private sector where they will not be able to compete, or to prison.

    Liked by 12 people

    • Yeah, i watched 5 min and had enough. Got all I needed to know from this thread today.

      Liked by 5 people

      • bertdilbert says:

        I did not watch any of the actual debate. I watched the intro then just listened. Kaine pretty much started into his interrupting very early on and grew more obnoxious as time went on. Stopped listening about 45 min in because Kaine was just being rude.

        Did not know the severity of Kaine until I checked what people were saying.

        The thing that continues to annoy me is the claim that Donald did not pay Federal income taxes. As an employer, I know I pay federal taxes right off the top before any profit or loss is considered. The employer pretty much matches SS and Medicare taxes the employee pays. That is not small change when factored over thousands of employees.

        The one thing I remembered Tim Kaine said that was a lie was The NY Times said that because of Donald’s loss, he did not have to pay taxes for 18 years. The Donald may be able to carry forward the loss for 18 years but only to the amount to offset a profit. The Donald could run out the loss well before the 18 years was up.

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      • wikunia says:

        I also watched it for about 5 min. only.


      • paulyho39 says:

        Exactly! I don’t think I watched 5 minutes of it! Part way through Kain’s 1st answer I had had enough! I waited to get the important stuff from “after debate” comments, etc! His demeanor was so off-putting even from the very beginning I couldn’t stand it!


    • crepelady says:

      I second that emotion!!!

      Liked by 1 person

    • ediegrey says:

      I am ashamed to be an Irish Catholic, jeez.

      Liked by 1 person

  2. Sevenwheel says:

    Hillary Clinton did NOT pick him jist because of Virginia. She n picked him because he stepped aside as DNC chair and cleared the slate for Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager Debbie Wasserman Schultz to step in as the new DNC chair and totally rig the Democratic primary so that no one BUT Hillary Clinton could possibly win it. The VP slot was Kaine’s reward for doing this, and he just made it crystal clear that he is just as much — perhaps even more — of an insufferable ass as Clinton. At least their ticketnis consistant. He did her no favors last night and hopefully anyone who thought that Kaine as VP was some sort of adult consolation price for a Hillary presidency has now had their head straightened out a bit.

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    • Most people don’t seem to know or forget about that story. I reminded a few people when discussing the debate. Hillary most likely wanted Goofy Warren, but due to owing Timmy a favor and the general negative response of Fauxhantas campaigning with her, she had go with coKaine.

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  3. Frank_O'Pinion says:

    My apologies to all if previously stated by anyone:
    Kaine is not Abel.

    Liked by 7 people

  4. zephyrbreeze says:

    Previous comment…

    Kaine as Governor of Virginia refused to meet with the parents of two teenage girls, Allison Kunthardt age 17 and Teresa Trenchant age 16 who were killed by an illegal alien in 2007 in Virginia Beach, Virginia. He had one of the worst policies allowing illegal aliens to come into Virginia steal jobs, kill young girls like Allison and Teresa, and show absolutely no remorse for it. He is COLD.”

    FTA: “Alfredo Ramos, an immigrant in the U.S. illegally, already had been convicted of three alcohol-related offenses when he killed Alison Kunhardt, 17, and Teresa Tranchant, 16, in a drunken-driving crash.”


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  5. Guyver1 says:

    Report from the battlefield.
    The first 30 minutes of the debate occurred while I was at work, at lunchtime.
    I knew most people knew very little, next to nothing, about Kaine.
    So this would be their first impression about him. And first impressions do count.
    So I took full advantage of it. I engaged a fellow Patriot in conversation- and when he told me he knew very little about Kaine, I swung into action, and I did it loudly enough that everyone in the cafeteria heard me (my main target is always the fence sitters, and those whose support for Hitlary is soft).
    After laughing loudly (to get everyone’s attention and ensure they heard what I was about to say):
    “The main point you need to know- and forget about politics, look at the man.
    He is crazy. A stark, raving psychopath. The Joker on steroids. Look at his eyes, look at his demeanor. A complete nut case. He should be in a padded cell, not running for office.
    If Hitlary were to win, she will either die or have to leave office for health reasons shortly after.
    Think about Creepy the Clown there with the nuclear launch codes. Game over for planet Earth.”
    When Kaine started interrupting and ranting, I stood up, laughed again, poked my thumb at the TV and said, “As Master Yoda would say, the crazy is strong in that one. You know what you have to do. Save yourselves.”
    Then I walked out of the cafeteria, smiling.
    Post debate:
    Complete, stunned silence from the other side. Even the Hillbots who were all for her after the first debate were silent. Not a peep. They, like good drones, will still vote for the witch, but Kaine scared the hell out of them. Too much crazy, even for the crazy.
    Comments from everyone else, in a nutshell- “Oh my God…” – comment usually accompanied by a scared, wide eyed look on the person’s face.
    Vice-presidential debates don’t usually move the needle a lot. This one was different.
    Kaine pushed a lot of people off the fence, into our side.
    When discussing Kaine, use the ‘nuclear launch codes in the hands of a madman- save yourself’ argument. It was very effective.
    This will be a landslide.
    Trump/Pence 2016!!!

    Liked by 19 people

    • jeans2nd says:

      “she will either die or have to leave office for health reasons shortly after.”
      “Kaine scared the hell out of (me)”
      These two lines are verbatim from many people who stopped in today for Trump signs.

      “Kaine pushed a lot of people off the fence, into our side”
      or, conversely, Gov Pence sealed the deal for the Trump-Pence ticket.
      Verified – TRUE, by majority of people stopping in today for Trump signs.

      Well done, Guyver, thanks!

      Liked by 1 person

    • keebler AC says:

      Too much crazy, even for the crazy.

      “As Master Yoda would say, the crazy is strong in that one. You know what you have to do. Save yourselves.”

      LOLOLOL! Excellent!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Yippeekiyay says:

      Great job. We’ve seen how Crazy Uncle Joe has been used as a puppet for Obama. Seems to be a trend with the democrats to not pick anyone who would challenge or upstage them. The gift that keeps on giving! Ha, way to go Hillary!

      Liked by 1 person

    • vfm#7634 says:

      Vice-presidential debates don’t usually move the needle a lot. This one was different.

      Yeah, it was like Christmas come early for the Trump campaign.

      Especially among women.


  6. Bendix says:

    I just now saw that Rush Limbaugh has come through with a video of the Kaine interruptions. I could not watch it all the way through, he is too much of an ass to be beheld. If he were a James Carville type operative, this mission to prevent any mention of certain issues at all costs would be understandable, but the man is running for the vice president of the United States, for Heaven’s sake!

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  7. Honest Abbey says:

    The MSM is pushing the propaganda that Kaine interrupted Pence 79 times and Pence interrupted Kaine 57 times.

    They are including all the times that Pence had to interrupt because Kaine just hijacked his time and the moderator refused to stop Kaine.


    Liked by 8 people

    • Guyver1 says:

      The MSM’s dishonesty is now on full display, and everyone can see it. Their credibility is in the toilet. Good.
      Trump got into their tiny, little pin heads and tricked them into showing their raging partisanship openly and proudly.
      They are finished. They are too dumb and arrogant to see it yet.
      The MSM meltdown on Nov. 8th will be epic.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Dixie says:

      Fox reported last night immediately following the debate – before the msm had time to work up the talking points lie – that Kaine interrupted 39 times and Pence interrupted 19 times.

      We all know the 19 times which Gov. Pence interrupted was because he was simply trying to finish his sentences, unlike Kaine who was doing it out of pure malice, while he, Kaine, was allowed to talk endlessly to make his points without interruption.

      It’ll be interesting to see if Fox changes their tally to match the rest of the msm.

      Liked by 1 person

  8. Strelnikov says:

    Constant interruptions = Kaine Mutinies.

    Also, he looks like a nut.

    Liked by 3 people

  9. Sandra-VA says:

    The big spin today is that Pence didn’t defend Mr. Trump… LOL!

    Even the R talking heads are repeating it.

    What I saw was Mr. Pence defend positions, Mr. Trump and every time he got a good point rolling he was talked over… or wasn’t allowed the 30 sec rebuttal he was supposed to get when Kaine did a hit.

    Real people who watched the debate know that Mr. Pence won, hands down and that Kaine came across as the yapping chihuahua, not to mention CREEPY.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Junebug says:

      Are these the same people that said Trump wasted too much time defending himself at the last debate when he should have been talking about the issues? Now they think not enough time was spent defending Trump? They just want to find fault.

      Liked by 5 people

  10. willvecchio says:

    With regard to why Hillary picked Kaine, she picked someone that she can control. She can control anybody she can blackmail. She picked Kaine because she knows what we only strongly sense and suspect.

    Liked by 7 people

  11. Martin Crossed says:

    I watched only during the commercials between innings of the Orioles-Jays game. After going to it 3 times and seeing what a crackpot screwball Timmy was I preferred the commercials.

    Liked by 3 people

  12. bpk1300 says:

    Just listening to the future VP on Rush’s program and Gov Pense did not take the bait from Rush. He spoke so well about DJT and continuously went back to comments about DJT and this movement. He is very loyal to our DJT and I think DJT will trust him. I pray a hedge of protection around our DJT, Pense and their families. I know as a Canadian, I have no claim on DJT but he gives me so much hope.

    Liked by 13 people

    • In AZ says:

      Deplorables must stick together regardless of what country we live in.
      After WW II the marxist globalists were able to get their foot in the door. And here we are.

      Liked by 6 people

    • Guyver1 says:

      Trump is leading the charge in the U.S., but this is part of the rebellion against the globalist elites.
      It would be delicious irony if the end result of the globalist elite’s naked power grab for control of the planet really does end up uniting the planet- as sovereign nations united against them.

      Liked by 6 people

    • paulyho39 says:

      Glad to hear that from a Canadian!!! I, tho’ not a Canadian, have lived a number of years in your fair country and have two Canadian born children…so I enjoy hearing what you guys are thinking up there!!!

      Liked by 1 person

  13. georgiafl says:

    Difference between Trump/Pence and Clinton/Kaine right here:

    Liked by 4 people

  14. georgiafl says:

    MSM focus:

    Liked by 5 people

  15. nomobama says:

    Kaine is not just nutty, he seems dangerously psychopathic. I cannot imagine him as president, ever, and there would be a good chance of him inheriting the job if sickly Hillary were forced to resign over health issues. She’s bad enough when it comes to being a psycho, but Kaine appears psycho x2.

    Liked by 4 people

  16. yy4u says:

    At last night’s vice presidential debate and tag-team wrestling match, Tim Kaine made Rochester’s wife look like the picture of sanity. Wild eyed and raving, Mr. Kaine exhibited symptoms of every domestic animal’s greatest fear: Hydrophobia.

    It was obvious Ms. Quijano was as biased and pro Democrat as Lester Holt and that makes me wonder just what the heck is the RNC doing? Why did Reince Preibus agree to these moderators? Why doesn’t he announce the Republicans are pulling out of any further debates until the commission can find moderators who are not members of the DNC.

    Liked by 1 person

  17. yy4u says:

    Naturally, the liberal media will inform those who didn’t watch the debate that Mr. Kaine won. Those who did will be told not to believe their lying eyes and ears, that they didn’t see what they saw and didn’t hear what they heard and besides, Mr. Trump is such a bad guy that nice Mr. Pence couldn’t defend him. What they won’t say is that Mr. Pence wasn’t allowed to say more than six words without Mr. Kaine or the moderator interrupting him. Often when Mr. Pence tried to finish after one of Mr. Kaine’s seventy interruptions, the moderator told Mr. Pence his time was up. YY4U would like to see a statistic of how many minutes Mr. Pence was allowed to speak versus the time the moderator and/or Mr. Kaine spoke. .


  18. not2worryluv says:

    Al Gore now joins the Clinton Team – Bernie was right, Hillary has bad judgement.

    Putting a Sex Crazed Poodle (Gore) looking for a Chakra Release,a Horn Dog Hound (WJC) looking for a Cigar Holder and Bozo the Irritating Clown (Kaine) should definitely pin down the women and millennium vote for Clinton.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Katherine McCoun says:

      So, Gore, exciting to young people? Really? Maybe 25 yrs ago but now? And he has since divorced because he cheated on his wife. My sister has a picture of she & Gore and the camera caught him side looking at her “blessed” chest. I am sure he has not changed any more than Bill has from that time period

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  19. zephyrbreeze says:

    Some think that Timmy Kaine looks like this guy – the Grinch

    Liked by 2 people

  20. Bonitabaycane says:

    Winners in the VP debate are Pence and Trump. Pence for his performance and Trump for his judgment to select a superior VP candidate.

    Liked by 4 people

  21. Dora says:

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  22. aesopredux says:

    Millennial software developer in my office here in CA overheard; fixated on why Pence isn’t defending Trump on “all the crazy things he’s said”… has looked into Hillarys background, theres some things but “none really bother me personally, none seem disqualifying. The choice is between the standard political type versus a crazed, unhinged tyrant.”

    3 other “progs” here have no idea who Barry Soetoro is, no awareness of Hillarys past, but actually do seem interested in picking “a good person.”

    The road to hell is being built and paved by Low Info Living-in-their-NPR-Bubble pseudo-intellectuals.

    Alas CA is where the paying jobs are.

    Liked by 4 people

    • heidi says:

      hopefully you recommended to the progs that they see the Clilnton Cash movie showing the multiple pay-for-play scandals, the multi millions taken from wealthy Saudi’s, the multi millions bill suddenly received for “speaking fees” when hill became SOS, that hill was responsible for American deaths in Libya & lied about it to the grieving families, reminiscent of her entire criminal career: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

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  23. mortgagesforthemasses says:

    Wait a second there SD. I am the creepy old man who sits on the end of the bar and hits on 20 year olds. Please don’t insult me by comparing me to Kaine.

    Liked by 2 people

  24. THE MAD RUSSIAN says:

    if hillary is elected – this lunatic will be a heart beat away from the Presidency…


  25. CatherinesMom says:

    I thought I’d share this terrific post debate analysis


  26. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Exclusive — Ex-Tim Kaine Staffer: Mike Pence Won Debate, ‘I Don’t Know What the Clintons Have Done’ to My Old Boss


    Liked by 1 person

  27. Pam says:

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  29. LBB says:

    Kaine has Pittsburgh rally tomorrow. Will be interesting to see how that goes post debate.

    They are going to keep H out of sight Only the two presidential debates and one fundraiser listed so far till the 23rd.


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  30. vietnamvet says:

    Quote: The Vice-Presidential nominee cannot be that creepy/sketchy guy at the end of the bar who hits on your 20-year-old daughter…. or worse.

    Well, that pretty well describes Joe Biden …

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  31. Wanted: #CreepyKaine This Halloween is going to be extra scary. pic.twitter.com/AYPPxG2phX— DeniseMcNamara (@denisemc) October 6, 2016



  32. MeThePeople says:

    Anyone voting for Hillary and ass clown Kaine is an idiot.


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