Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, and The Immigration/Amnesty Agenda…

During the Fox Business News debate several political junkies noted a rather curious omission: Senator Marco Rubio was never questioned about the 2013 Senate Gang-of-Eight bill and his stance on Comprehensive Immigration Reform.  In fact, if you were to review the debate substance you’d note that candidate Rubio wasn’t directly questioned about his immigration positions at all.

Candidate Jeb Bush attends Chamber of Commerce dinner with Fox's Rupert Murdoch and Valerie Jarrett (December 2014)

Candidate Jeb Bush attends Chamber of Commerce dinner with Fox’s Rupert Murdoch and Valerie Jarrett (December 2014)

It is not disconnected that during the 2013/2014 Gang-of-Eight immigration constructs, Fox News was an active participant in the promotion of the immigration reform proposals.  In order to facilitate the congressional immigration intent Fox launched a previously unknown pro-amnesty propaganda blitz to support senate immigration bill.

What follows below is an evidenced expose’ of their agenda.

♦  It was less than a year ago when Mickey Kaus was chastised by Tucker Carlson, a Fox Contributor, for writing an article in the Daily Caller outlining the relationship between Rupert Murdoch, his company Fox News, the talking heads under his control and authority, and Murdoch’s request for pro-amnesty propaganda to be broadcast on the network.

Carlson took down the article from the Daily Caller, and subsequently Mickey Kaus quit in disgust over the agenda-driven editorial decision.  Apparently some things are just too sensitive for sunlight and exposure.

What Mickey Kaus outlined was a pattern within Fox to push immigration reform and included a first person excerpt between David Axelrod and Rupert Murdoch:

On page 424 of his recent memoir, Obama’s former top strategist David Axelrod describes running into Fox chieftain (and immigration amnesty supporter) Rupert Murdoch at a dinner in the fall of 2010:

During the dinner, Murdoch, who was seated beside me, insisted that the president had to move on immigration reform. ….

“But the solution has to be comprehensive,” I said. “We can’t just attack a piece of the immigration problem. And you know, there’s one big thing that you can do to help, and that is to keep your cable network from stoking the nativism that keeps us from solving this.” [Emphasis added] (link)

Kaus goes on to outline how Fox News followed the plan and conspicuously avoided any mention of the crafting: “in the spring of 2013 when the “Gang of 8” amnesty bill snuck through the Senate“.  Mickey uses a historical timeline, day-by-day story leads, showing how Fox was intentionally NOT COVERING the story (see here).

GOP gang of 8

♦  However, even before Kaus discovered -and outlined- proof of what his research into Fox revealed there was a prior article written by Ryan Lizza in The New Yorker Magazine [June 2013] which was even more revealing:

New Yorker 2013 – […] Fox News has notably changed its tone since the election. A Democratic policy staffer who worked on the issue in 2007 and has helped write the current bill said, “NumbersUSA and FAIR”—two groups that want to dramatically limit immigration—“managed to convince Fox News back then to be their twenty-four-hour news channel of the anti-immigrant point of view. Fox has now totally bought in to the idea that we just need to figure something out.”

Rush Limbaugh, who fiercely opposes the bill, has come to sound resigned. “I don’t know if there’s any stopping this,” he said on January 28th, the day the Gang held the press conference announcing its framework for the legislation. “It’s up to me and Fox News, and I don’t think Fox News is that invested in this.”

McCain told me, “Rupert Murdoch is a strong supporter of immigration reform, and Roger Ailes is, too.” Murdoch is the chairman and C.E.O. of News Corp., which owns Fox, and Ailes is Fox News’s president.

McCain said that he, Graham, Rubio, and others also have talked privately to top hosts at Fox, including Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Neil Cavuto, who are now relatively sympathetic to the Gang’s proposed bill. Hannity voiced support for a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, which he previously dismissed as “amnesty,” on the day after the 2012 election. “God bless Fox,” Graham said. “Last time, it was ‘amnesty’ every fifteen seconds.” He said that the change was important for his reelection, because “eighty per cent of people in my primary get their news from Fox.” He added that the network has “allowed critics to come forward, but it’s been so much better.” (link)

So there’s a trio of GOPe Republicans in the so-called Gang of Eight huddled with leading figures at Fox News Channel.   A few days later Bill O’Reilly interviews Marco Rubio  and urges the Senator to come to him if anyone opposes the proposal.

♦  As you watch this segment in retrospect, with the information you now possess, consider that both Bill O’Reilly and Marco Rubio have pre-discussed the entire topic and worked out exactly what the framework of questions and answers would be:

Rupert Murdoch, Wall Street, The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the entire GOPe apparatus -including House Speaker Paul Ryan- are 100% behind comprehensive immigration reform to include amnesty.

Now, lets contrast this historic information against the backdrop new information within the republican debate earlier this week.

There is a particular clarity that resonates, no?

grubering us 2

 

[*note* Few people know how close we came to seeing this immigration usurpation actually come to fruition as law.   Our nation was literally a few hours away from fundamental change – There’s an incredible story to be told of two unheralded heroes named Zach Werrell and Gray Delany, who, together with representative Dave Brat of Virginia, fundamentally saved the construct of the U.S. as we know it.  And that is not even the slightest bit of exaggeration.   Without them, there wouldn’t even be a Donald Trump campaign today – I hope to write about it all this weekend.]

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180 Responses to Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, and The Immigration/Amnesty Agenda…

  1. starfcker says:

    It’s just politics. It’s always been this way, there just hasn’t been two sides for about twenty years. There are two sides now, that’s all you can ask for. I don’t understand people who want to burn down the system, you just have to work to get better people in the system

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    • sundance says:

      No, actually it’s not just politics. I know from tracking comment history – you like to jump in at the top of articles and distract attention away from the primary substance, but this story is about media manipulation with a political agenda – not “just politics”.

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      • starfcker says:

        Sorry guy, I just happen to be up early when you post. Politics has always been dirty. I’m grateful for trump, and I’m grateful for the job you’ve been doing. It wasn’t intended any other way

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        • Bill says:

          The fundamental problem with your argument, starfcker, is that you believe that incrementally adding marginally less-corrupt “people” to the equation of mega-corruption that is, by design, killing America, can fix/change anything. Go sell crazy somewhere else.

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          • yy4u says:

            My late Lefty Liberal friend separated Republicans from Democrats by saying when a Republican got into trouble how awful Republicans were, but when a Democrat did something wrong “they all do it”. Calling what’s going on withe the Democrats and Republicans as “just politics” misses what’s going on. We DON’T have two parties. We haven’t had two parties for decades. We have ONE ESTABLISHMENT PRO IMMIGRATION, ILLEGAL AND LEGAL, PARTY and that one party goes by two different names: Republican and Democrat. This is what Trump has done in this primary. He’s the Toto who pulled back the curtain to reveal the wizard madly manipulating the dials. Fox News is in on it, the Wall Street Journal is in on it. We have no recourse other than to “just say no”. They CAN foist Jebbush or Marco Romeo (sic) on us, but they can’t make us vote for him. We can either vote Libertarian, stay home (as those who caught on last time did when they ran Romney) or we can write in Trump’s name. (He won’t win that way, but the protest vote will be registered). Who cares whether it’s Jebbush or Hillary, Romeo or Sanders — the end result is the same. The Democrats just get us there a little faster and a little more honestly. They’re up front about what they’re up to.

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      • LibertatiAutAdMortem says:

        For some reason I am unable to respond to starfcker directly as I traditionally do not use this system. Here is my response for what it is worth.

        There is no such construct as politics in the United States. There are only corporations, and there advocacy groups in the corporate media in two distinct dialectics. One is the corporate media designed for the furtherance of crony-capitalism socialism, while the other is designed for advocacy of the crony capitalism military industrial complex. Both are supported directly by the private bank Federal Reserve that facilitates these two opposite sides of the same coin by creating public debt placing the American taxpayer into indentured servitude. Any reference to politics is merely semantics.

        Interested parties might enjoy this definition of the United States of America:
        https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002

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      • john smith says:

        sundance, I agree with you. I realized after the last presidential election that Fox News was in bed with Mitt, and vowed to never watch or believe in that organization again. I think seeing Rupert sitting at a table with Valerie tells me just about all I need to know. Problem is, most voters are so uninformed and blind to the reality of things the GOP blue-hairs that are ruining our party are still allowed to have to much of an impact in our elections. Hopefully we see a drastic change this time around!!! We need it!!

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      • Tommy Frisco says:

        It has gone far beyond “media manipulation.” What we see and hear today is pure propaganda…and it’s not just coming from the MSM. The big donors are obviously controlling most of what was considered conservative media too. Are you the next to sell out and moderate, Sundance? I pray that you remain the beacon that you are. There aren’t many in my circle of trust these days.

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      • chasingfacts says:

        Purist or Pragmatist- No one can form a valid opinion based on misinformation and lies.
        Fox is completely off my list as a news source. Ditto for Rush for respected opinion.
        Beside being so juvenile in its presentation, now I find out they misconstrue and mislead!

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Star, you are talking nonsense. Getting better people into the “system” does not work. Trump is not getting into the system. Just because Trump came along and forced the issues did not fix anything or show the system to be working. Money still controls outcomes and not the interest of the United States.

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      • starfcker says:

        We’re just going to have to talk about this another time. I don’t intend to ruffle SD’s feathers at all. I don’t believe I’ve ever made a post critical of CTH or tried to threadjack. I am in his house. Not my day

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        • starfcker says:

          What am I missing here? I have believed since 2011 that trump would provide us with a clear choice, if he were to run and win. Am I wrong?

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          • You most certainly are missing something, a BIG something. Namely this isn’t “just politics” man. Prior to Obama, the Republican Party, Republican Congressmen and Senators were NOT completely bought and paid for by the same big donors funding Democrats.

            During the Obama terms, the party closed its deal with globalists and began LYING to its members to gain control of Congress. That’s not “just politics” – that’s fundamental betryal and corruption on a massive scale.

            We’ve been tossed overboard by the very people we elected to represent us. That matters, especially when it comes to illegal immigration. These people we trusted have decided to infiltrate the country with new voters so they can stay in power and collect massive amounts of our money, while we sit here powerless and bankrupted.

            Our leaders are attempting to STEAL our country and our freedom. That ain’t “just politics” – it’s treason.

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            • Indeed. In a nutshell. Thank you.

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            • Lindenlee says:

              I REALLY want to revive the Elizabethan method of execution for treason… Hanging by the neck until almost dead, then cut down, strapped down on a table and publicly disemboweled, your entrails eaten by rabid dogs while you are still alive. .

              It would take only ONE such execution to cause DC to empty out, causing Congress critters to resign their positions… And then maybe we could recruit a whole new set of them, honorable men who would never think about committing so heinous a crime to deserve such a horrible punishment.

              It would take JUST ONE to make s significant impact on our traitorous boys and girls in DC, yes??. I know who I want it to be.

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          • Jett Black says:

            Star, you’re not wrong and the sub-commenters, after your clarifying direct exchange with SD up-thread, are missing the point. What we’re seeing from the establishment demonrats and rethugnicans is “just politics.” Dirty, quasi-criminal, conspiratorial, lying, seditious politics.

            They have been busy tearing down our “system” of representative self government roughly since FDR, with massive acceleration after the Goldwater wing was marginalized and LBJ snatched the nation’s helm to port. I think that was the turning point after which the GOPe wholly adopted a “go along to get along and get over” approach to the nation and citizenry. And “go along” they did and “get over” they did. GOPe has been colluding with demonrats to defraud us of our votes, our personal and financial political support, and our tax dollars ever since.

            We cannot fix that situation by incrementally putting good people into that “system,” b/c it’s no longer our “system” of government. We now have a tyranny of bureaucracy in which those who are supposed to be elected representatives instead function as bureaucrats, their incumbencies protected by more powerful legal, financial, propaganda, and political machinery than any civil service commission or union could ever hope to muster. Our constitutional republic “system” still exists as a shell or fragile framework, nearly overwhelmed with parasites.

            It can be cleaned and restored to health, so that putting good people into the system will allow the system to work well, but a seismic, neutron bomb-like attack has to be mounted to remove and hopefully fully destroy the parasites. That’s a damn tall order, even for a guy like Trump, but I’m joining you, Star and SD and just about everyone else here in putting my support behind him to make the best efforts we can to get it done!

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      • yy4u says:

        bertdilbert, I think you might be wrong. I think if they didn’t think Trump would upset their applecart they wouldn’t be so universally aligned against him. You’re right about the bureaucracies, and they ARE entrenched, but a businessman who doesn’t know what he can’t do just might do what MUST be done. He might not know he can’t fire the head of the VA until after he fires him. He might not know he can’t fire the head of the IRS until after he fires him. He might not know he can’t get Chris Christie appointed Attorney General until after Christie IS attorney general. They’ll all sue, of course, but as we’ve seen with Obama’s doing stuff he cannot do, it takes time for those to work through the courts. Perhaps by then, the system will be improved if not fixed. What are our other options? Keeping on keeping on? Isn’t that the definition of insanity?

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        • I think Donald Trump will wade into this mess and start sorting it out. If WE, the American people, will support him and demand our Congressmen and Senators help him get this done…. We can GET RID of all kinds of rules and regulations protecting bureaucratic Washington DC!

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      Two sides? I don’t think so myself.

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    • It’s just politics? Always been this way? WTF?

      Has it escaped your notice that the Republican Party is funded by (and has sold us all out to) big donors who are in lockstep with the progressive agenda? There’s no difference, their goals are the same and they’re not ours.

      Furthermore, the egregious lies told and false promises made to conservatives in order to get control of Congress ain’t just “politics” SF! It’s betrayal on a massive scale.

      How can you possibly minimize the gravity & seriousness of these horrendous developments? Our entire country and its way of life hangs in the balance. Our very freedom is about to be lost forever. That ain’t “politics” – it’s survival.

      And SF, you better hope enough of your fellow Ameicans go to the polls and vote out these traitors.

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      • starfcker says:

        Listen, I don’t see any difference between dem and repug. My point is that with trump it looks like we finally have a choice. Am i not speaking english today?

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        • yy4u says:

          You might want to habla some espanol since that seems to be where we’re headed. Just kidding. I think we did misunderstand you. If I did, sorry.

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    • Lou says:

      media manipulation with a political agenda is spot on. I somewhat agree with your statement though Star. the two party system has become one party. Reagan was pro-amnesty. Reagan sold weapons Iran. Obama is the same as Reagan, but because Reagan had better speeches, he’s seen as the opposite. if you want to talk about a two party system, you have to go back to the great Ike Eisenhower days. Also, the Republicans were all pro-Integration if you look at the numbers during the LBJ days.

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      • coltlending says:

        Reagan agreed to a one-time amnesty based on agreement with the Democrats that immigration be strongly enforced and that a wall be built.

        The Democrats stiffed him on both counts.

        We should never again allow that to happen

        A Wall & stiff enforcement first — and — stuff enforcement means deportation.

        We either have a country or we don’t.

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        • ediegrey says:

          Reagan did the first amnesty, that’s just the way it is. In my opinion, he did a lot of bad stuff and all the talking heads who love Reagan hate Trump.

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      • Curry Worsham says:

        “Obama is the same as Reagan…” Beam me up, Scottie. What the hell are you talking about? Reagan WAS the actual other party (vs. the establishment/uniparty; Ford, Dole, Bush, Carter, Mondale, etc.)

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        • starfcker says:

          Curry, thank you. I feel like I’m logging into some alternative universe today. Obama is the same as reagan?

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          • Lou says:

            Reagan was a globalist and cared primarily about the stock market. Obama is the same way. both sold weapons to Iran. it’s what happened. I stand by my statement. the media has propped Reagan to be some type of real Conservative but I don’t agree. the Conservatism of today or during the Reagan era is much different from Ike’s Conservatism.

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          • Star, we all have bad posting days. Shake it off. Your posts have sparked a lot of good comments, for which I am grateful. Sometimes we all need our cages rattled.

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    • I don’t understand people who want to burn down the system terrorism, you just have to work to get better people in the system terrorists

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    • hnlbeach says:

      Politics with the continued destruction of Middle class jobs with lower wages brought on with mass influx of illegals.. while Corporations and big money donors favor illegals to make more money with cheap labor
      Only Trump will stop these robber barons and useless GOP Congress

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  2. MMinLamesa says:

    Dude, you are a God send-this information and analysis should be read by every voter. The manipulation is disgusting and the intent is evil. You are the most astute political analyzer I have ever come across and CTH is my number 1 go to site now for the latest news.

    I forward your posts to everyone I know-seriously, God bless you sd.

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  3. flawesttexas says:

    Excellent article again!

    Some things I have learned regarding Illegal Alien Amnesty…

    If its Comprehensive Immigration Reform…or any Immigration reform…it will be Illegal Alien Amnesty

    If someone says “We can’t deport all the Illegal Aliens”…they support Illegal Alien Amnesty

    If one is not willing and vocal about deporting Illegal Aiens…they will not secure the border, neither

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    • Jeff says:

      I was out recruiting at the BEACH yesterday with my MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN hat on . Guy yells to me waking across the sand ” HEY !! where do I get a hat like that ?”

      I’m like Johnny Appleseed out here spreading the world so I hooked this guy and his wife up !

      The thing that always strikes me the most is that people are most confused by their beloved FOX NEWS . They like Trump …but they can’t figure out why FOX hates him.

      So the guy says ….” I like Trump but he can’t deport 11 million illegals ” just as if it were a parrot squawking the FOX line .

      So THIS Vulgarian tells him about Eisenhower and Operation Wetback . I told him how the first run at E-VERIFY scattered many a landscape crew heading back to Mexico . Only to find that republican AND democrats didn’t want that to work . So they came back to the lawn crews and drywall contractors like bed bugs in a hotel room .

      FOX is all about getting us drunk at the conservative BAR …then we awaken in Shanghai !!

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      • yy4u says:

        AMEN. I suggest we pepper Fox News with emails letting them know we’re onto them. They probably won’t lay off Trump but at least they’ll know it’s falling on enough deaf ears that they’re damaging their brand. I have already asked my cable company to give us News Max and One America Network. I’ll hammer them weekly until they do so. Then I’ll turn off Fox except for Hannity and O’Reilly who while they are blowhards are at least being fair to Donald Trump. So far as deporting 11+ million Illegals WHY NOT? We IMPORTED them, didn’t we? So far as Kasich’s and Jebbush’s soulful bleating about breaking up families, who wants to break up families? I want to send the whole family back to the country OF WHICH THEY ARE CITIZENS!

        I’d add that IF we allow them to choose another Establishment nominee like Jebbush or Marco Romeo (sic), and we don’t either vote Third Party or Stay Home, then we are as big a part of the problem as Fox, the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch.

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      • coltlending says:

        Last Halloween, I did a pub crawl that has been going on for 35 years. It wasn’t my 35th year, it was my 1st.

        Anyway, two of the founders were there this go round and one of them was dressed up as a pretty good Trump, Trump wig, Trump jacket and a bag full of Trump buttons.

        As an epic Trumpster, I needed one of those buttons to put in my Ramone’s motorcycle jacket, so I asked him for one as did many other people did from bar to bar. Most Trumpsters.

        Except the guy — dressed — as Trump. Evidently, he wasn’t a stumpster for the Trumpster.

        It was kind of funny because in one of the ground zeros of liberaldom, 60611, Gold Coast Chicago, there were a lot of people pro Trump asking for Trump buttons.

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        • coltlending says:

          P.S. Had a cab driver ask me once when discussing deportation, “How can you deport so many?”

          I replied, “We’ll start out one at a time. This is America. Before you know it, we’ll have it dialed-in to 1,000; 10,000 & then a million at a time.”

          The look on his face was priceless.

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          • John Galt says:

            “How can you deport so many?”

            Guns, horses, dogs.

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            • stella says:

              Ships and air transports.

              Also self deportation, once you cut off access to jobs and public assistance.

              Stop giving out money at the very least.

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              • John Galt says:

                Ships and air transport are for self-deporters. If they have to be rounded up, they should be driven across country like cattle. The west was settled by pioneers walking 2,200 miles across the Oregon Trail. Plenty good enough way for reluctant criminal wetbacks to return home.

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              • I agree with you, and I totally believe that “Self-Deportation” is the main solution. Make it so they don’t want to stay here (because the flood of “free stuff” has been shut off, and employment is impossible to secure) and they will leave the country in droves, and never come back.

                So, I was totally shocked when I read through the New Yorker article (linked by SD) that quoted McCain:

                McCain said. “Everybody agrees that probably the biggest mistake Mitt Romney made, outside of the forty-seven-per-cent issue”—a reference to Romney’s remark that forty-seven per cent of Obama voters were “dependent upon government”—“was when he said, quote, ‘self-deport.’ ” It was a phrase that Romney used to explain his immigration policy during a debate in the 2012 Republican primaries. “I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry when I heard that, because you can’t have eleven million people self-deport. That just wasn’t in touch with reality.”

                Now, I have to wonder, was McCain being serious in that criticism of Romney’s “self deport” comment, as in that he really doesn’t believe that “self deportation” is something that can’t work? Or was McCain merely trying to discredit a very good idea solely for the purpose of furthering his “Gang of Eight” immigration/amnesty scam? Was he being dense, or devious? With all the media obfuscations, and lack of adequate follow up on McCain’s positions, it’s kind of hard to nail this down, though I strongly suspect he was being devious, rather than dense. Your thoughts?

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          • How do you eat an elephant?

            One bite at a time.

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          • WSB says:

            Ask Obama how he plans to get 200,000 Syrian refugees in here. Same way.

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    • Sentient says:

      Tiny quibble. Misspelling at the start of your piece, SD. It’s Mickey Kaus, not Mickey Glass.

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    • azgary says:

      also if they say “we must secure the border FIRST”

      they are for amnesty.

      why in the heck cant we do two things at once, its because they do not want to and will not deport illegal foreign invaders.

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      • peachteachr says:

        I disagree, azguy. My first comment to others is always secure the border first then get back to me on everything else. If you watched The Rivkin Project video, on Monday I think, closing the border must be done first. It was horrifying to see the hoards marching for as far as the eye could see. As the laws are being passed, we need to be building the wall with the “beautiful door” to quote Trump.

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        • azgary says:

          well, while you never know how or when the border will actually be “secured”, you do know there during the time there will be anchor babies being born, americans being murdered, raped robbed. jobs taken from americans, schools pending money and taking valuable teaching time from american kids, law enforcement funds, welfare w.i.c. etc… being eaten up. not to mention the message of you will be deported slowing down the influx of illegals plus we should NEVER not enforce the law because of perceived convenience

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      • yy4u says:

        The wall has been under construction since 1986 when Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million illegal South of the Border invaders. There is NEVER going to be any wall UNLESS we elect Donald Trump.

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        • azgary says:

          yes, i have a statement regarding the “wall” issue thats been stuck in moderation for hours, but we suffer illegals while waiting. no reason for it.

          deport before, during and after border security, not to mention we have so many visa overstays its not just all border hoppers, hell the 9/11 terrorist were visa overstays.

          deport immediately

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        • John Galt says:

          Drive reluctant criminal wetbacks overland for 3 or 4 months with horses and dogs and then put them to work for 5 years building a border wall. I bet most would self-deport.

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      • We’ve already done the “Wall for amnesty” deal and “they” reneged on it. If “they” really were interested in compromise “they’d” agree to wall first then figure out what to do with the millions of illegals.

        Since they’re not, we can reasonably assume they have no plans to ever build the wall. They can say whatever they want, dress it up in as flowery and flattering language as they want but until shovel meets dirt and the wall Trump describes is built, we can logically assume they’re lying to us.

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    • hnlbeach says:

      Comprehensive immigration ,like obamacare was comprehensive, is bad for American citizens . Notice GOP Congress won a landslide in 2014 to stop the harming of America, yet we still have all of obamacare .Don’t get fooled again in 2016
      I have just about stopped watching Fox News ..sounds more and more like CNN ,MSNBC

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  4. Jeff says:

    Trump exposed Meghan Kelly AND FOX with her attempted hit on him in the opening at their debate . Since that moment it has been easier to explain to FOX watchers that it’s a GRUBER NETWORK just as CNN and MSNBC are .

    It’s like telling them that them that bacon is bad for them . FOX is not news ! Oh they may very well talk as if they are conservative and mention the constitution now and then. But they are part of the left right construct to keep us all divided .
    We are a nation of parrots squawking the FOX or the CNN talking points ……”erawk Polly wanna Jeb Bush or Polly wanna Hillary ” and ” erawak …Trump is a ______”

    turn off the tv and lets win this one !

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  5. don welch says:

    trump has been somewhat docile lately. is he rethinking his goals? the gop ‘machine’ will probably take him down and he knows it. he may just drop out within 4-6 weeks. i wouldn’t be surprised at all.

    his statement during the last debate is the tell: “i don’t need to listen to him. i have built a billion dollar empire from the ground up”. he was referring to john kasich. the fix is in. down goes the constitution. a revolution is in the offing and very soon. there could be blood in the streets from sea to shining sea. down goes america. protect your assets as best as possible. cash may not be the answer. even gold won’t work if we have a full blown civil war. the barter system may show it’s ugly head. good luck.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      “trump has been somewhat docile lately…”
      Did you listen to Mr. Trump’s rally last night? For 95 minutes he was far from docile. Mr. Trump does not appear to me to be one who is “rethinking his goals” (your words). Do you really think Mr. Trump has been a quitter at anything at all in his life? Ever? The New York real estate market is brutal, especially the high-end. Mr. Trump could have quit anytime. Truth has no agenda Don.

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    • TheTorch says:

      I don’t agree with that at all.

      Trump has not been docile, he has worked harder than anyone these last few weeks the guy is on fire. I think there is a chance he can overdo it, so if anything he should take a day off!

      The GOPe have tried numerous times to take him down and failed at every attempt, so I don’t see any reason that they won’t continue to fail.

      As for Trump dropping out that is frankly nonsense. He is winning on all the key issues in some cases by massive margins. He is winning all the polls national and primary. The few ones which show him 2nd are very small samples, heavily weighted and with large MOE (agenda polls), from the usual suspects.

      Trump is in it to win it. He is first on the Virginia ballot and is building a strong ground game in Illinois. Not the actions of someone who is dropping out in a few weeks!

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      • Tonawanda says:

        “Trump has not been docile, he has worked harder than anyone these last few weeks the guy is on fire. I think there is a chance he can overdo it, so if anything he should take a day off!”

        Amen. Trump is almost miraculously high energy. When does he sleep?
        I do not want to wring my hands, and Trump knows best, but I wonder if he should get a little more rest.

        And I say that totally selfishly, because it is obvious he is the only thing between us and put out the lights.

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    • WSB says:

      Did you happen to catch Mr. Trump’s rally last night? Not so docile.

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      • flova says:

        Trump is coming down hard on that leech Carson whose media shills have been lumping him with Trump ever since Trump surged. ‘Trump-Carson’ Trump Carson’ it’s like the media thinks they are one person and that is their strategy. They know the people are fed up and they want some of that Trump support to shine on Carson.

        Well, Trump is trying to get this whacko corrupt fake prophet mannatech shill. pathological liar Carson away from him-like getting gum off his shoe. He has to distance himself from the manchurian candidate Carson whose views are so progressive it makes your head spin! And in the Iowa rally, he told the Iowans either wake up or you’ll be stuck with this whack-job Carson.

        Look at Carson’s response, he ‘will pray for him, he won’t engage in debate about it’. He can’t! He gets all of his ideas from Trump. He plagiarized twice and admitted it and that’s what he does with Trump verbally plagiarizes all he says. And yet the media hardly says anything. That’s not gotcha Mr. Carson–you are getting away with stuff all the time.

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    • JRD says:

      Thank you for your concern.

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    • yy4u says:

      I disagree. I think Trump shoots from the hip and doesn’t filter his responses. Kasich was going off like some demented moonbat and Trump just voiced what he was thinking. Trump has billions. He’ll be okay no matter who wins. He’s in this because he loves America and doesn’t want to see us become Norte Mexico. He can be beaten, but I don’t think he’ll quit. I also don’t think there will ever be another civil war. I think it’s more likely there will be an “Atlas Shrugged” response where those of us who foot the bills just go on strike. That’s probably why there’s a big move to take cash out of the economy, so we can’t go off the grid and pay cash for what we need.

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      • American Patriot Gal says:

        You are right about “Atlas Shrugged” response becauase that is exactly what my husband who is an entrepreneurial and many of his business friends did. They believe the American Dream is over and are done with America, so they have moved to Uruguay and are opening up businesses there.

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    • peachteachr says:

      It was the form of the debate that gives even the hint of a “docile” Trump. They pulled the oldest trick in the book on Trump at the debate hoping he would soil himself. There is no right answer when someone asks, “Are you still beating your wife?” They didn’t ask him many questions hoping he would butt in or call them out, imo. So I think Trump is still doing Trump and he has a female media spokeswoman who it WONDERFUL.

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      • yy4u says:

        agreed. Fox Business knew business is Trump’s wheelhouse so they avoided asking him too many questions where he might shine. The audience was salted with pro Establishmenteers who booed him when he pointed out Fiorina always interrupts which she always does. TRUTH as usual from Trump.

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      • Here’s the problem with the “just don’t engage him” strategy. He’s the front runner. He has to lose his footing to lose ground. A “break even” night means he can hold serve and remain the front runner.

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    • coltlending says:

      I respectfully submit:

      Yesterday, Trump just asked Iowan’s how stupid are they to be so emamoured with Carson.

      Then Trump went evil politically on Carson taking the crowd and viewers down Carson’s pathological path.

      Oh yea MacDaddy, that’s docile.

      Nice attempt at brainwashing.

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    • judyw says:

      “is he rethinking his goals?”….check out his schedule the past week and see where you can fit in sleep. He is focused and relentless in providing an opening for people to “see more clearly” and then actually lays out words people can use that they have become “conditioned” not to say.

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  6. Buck Weaver says:

    The one that disgusts me the most after reading this is Hannity. Really makes me sick to my stomach. What a traitor.

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    • TheTorch says:

      Hannity is disappointing, but I am not surprised, he talks a good game, but has a tendency to follow the fox line when push comes to shove.

      I don’t think it is just a case he is worried about his job. I think it is more the case he does not have firm principles, so he is malleable by the fox execs.

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      • John says:

        Hannity knows where he gets his paycheck. I think Rush is more honest because like Trump he doesn’t need the money and knows time is short.

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        • joshua says:

          Hannity will forever be a captive of his low income upbringing and early life….he fears the life of a dishwasher, roofer and carpenter, and all the menial things he claims he did “on his way up”….he believes that his well being is in the hands of others today, and he will get stomped if he does not kissazz to the powers…he is not a very learned or bright guy at the end of the day…he is an entertainer….as is BOR….although they are DESPERATE to sell the audience otherwise.

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        • Tonawanda says:

          I hope Trump’s effect inspires some courage and fortitude in many conservative opinion commentators.

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          • yy4u says:

            It won’t. Trump is out there alone because his billions are like a suit of armor. But I’m betting a lot more people agree with him than are willing to say so.

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        • dondeg says:

          Hannity: When you take the King’s penny, you dance the King’s dance.

          You gotta watch out for all the talking heads. It’s interesting watching Trump deal with them. Trump is a mutant at reading people. That’s why he’s so successful (“deals are people” he always says). Notice with even the most seemingly pro-patriot talking heads, Trump is cautious. He seems to be the most relaxed with Mark Levin.

          ‘Nother topic. The media bias in favor of amnesty is crystal clear. The media owners, who are the puppet masters of the talking heads, clearly want it. Since debate 4, Trump is really ramping up his aggressiveness again. It’s almost like he’s swimming, if you watch him. He has to swim uphill now, and he is stroking harder and with more energy. You can tell what he is doing: telling the truth as he sees it, and I think he now is very confident the electorate can make up their minds for themselves. Notice how he was for a while expressing his surprise at how smart the American people are. I think he is beyond the discovery stage and now employing this fact as part of his working strategy.

          G’ Morning everyone! Have a nice day!

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        • Sentient says:

          Hannity’s also just not very smart. I sometimes have him on the radio during my drive and when he launches into his standard litany against Obama (“50 million on food stamps, 90 million out of the labor force, blah, blah, blah”), I have to turn him off. It’s not that he’s wrong. It’s that he’s boring and therefore ineffective.

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          • dondeg says:

            I agree. He’s kinda whinny sometimes too. But overall, compared to the general landscape of extreme leftism of the media, I find Hannity at least listenable.

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          • Tonawanda says:

            I really wish Hannitty would please STOP INTERRUPTING. Hannitty usually waits until his guest starts making his actual point and almost without fail cuts the guest off so you (I) sit wondering what the heck the guest was going to say.

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          • RP says:

            I’ve always found Hannity a bit overbearing and arrogant, none to smart. Listen to him carefully as he pontificates. Hannity takes the silver medal to Obama’s gold medal in the number of times he says ‘I’ and ‘me’.

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          • knotpeesea says:

            republicans are for dirty air and dirty water and on and on……..i listen to him from time to time but he’s routine and repeats the same old talking points over and over

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      • Big Picture says:

        Hannity is the best of the bunch. His heart is with us. He had to give up his time slot to make room for Megyn Kelly, so he knows that his views are not popular with upper management.

        My biggest complaint is about his format. Maybe it is NYC culture, but listening to people shout, talk over each other, and spout partisan talking points is boring, not entertaining.

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      • Hannity values his friendship with Rove. That should tell you everything you need to know.

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  7. TheTorch says:

    The media agenda is the worst thing of all. They are supposed to be holding the government of the day to account and be objective and unbiased. Instead they are corrupted and pushing the agenda of said establishment.

    The worst thing of all is how they act like a uniparty with the media as the third partner! The whole thing stinks.

    The more people who understand this the better, and with sites like this it will be widely known before it is too late.

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    • NJF says:

      What has me so hopeful, beyond Trump’s success, is the increasing questions concerning why all these failing canidates are still in the race.

      Those questions are moving toward critical mass and I think ultimately, exposing all of this is Trump’s nuclear option.

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    • dondeg says:

      Madison wrote some really perceptive stuff about government and empire. Does anyone know off the top of their heads if any of the Founding Fathers warned about media? Seems unlikely because the extreme concentration of power in the media was completely unknown in their time, perhaps even unthinkable.

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  8. FrJ+ says:

    So many traitors within the Republican/Conservative apparatus. God bless Werrell and Delany and Sundance!

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  9. TwoLaine says:

    We already have a path to citizenship, we don’t need a new one. There are no special rules for special snowflakes. All those who break our immigration laws should be deported post haste, and personally, I’d put them on the VA wait list to get back in.

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  10. SouthCentralPA says:

    Who the fritos is Mickey Glass? Are you by chance talking about Mickey Kaus?

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  11. Doodahdaze says:

    Who, is who? Someone was not at the table.

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  12. Angry Dumbo says:

    Wow!!! This is some fantastic stuff. Fox is sneaky. Some real look behind the curtain view of Rubio and how he has been corrupted. Note FNC does not seek so much to redeem Rubio by repeating a lie, that he opposes amnesty, that won’t fly, but by pulling punches. Attacking Trump’s plan as unworkable rather than having Rubio’s lie exposed. Immigration, TPP, Iran deal, budget, on all these issues the GOP has acted against the will of the base. Time to reclaim our Party under new management.

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  13. Sherwood 4ust says:

    For a clear understanding of unsustainability of our immigration policies watch this short video. “Immigration by the Numbers. Off the chart” Politicians should be tied to their chairs and FORCED to watch this video and every American should watch as well before they form on opinion on immigration. The numbers don’t lie.

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  14. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:

    Fox is playing a dangerous game here as many of us amateurs sense Fox moving to the the left more and more as time passes. I for one depend more on blogs than Fox.

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      FOX is very dependable. You just have to take off the rose colored glasses when you watch them.

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      • 2x4x8 says:

        need to bring up the point, corporations are controlled by shareholders, and the Money Powers get their hands on shares

        it is a difficult CHOICE employees make when they find out their Co is part of the Globalist’s agenda, some quit on their own like Sheryl Attiksson, others fired for not going along, and some stay and keep their career going the best they can, thinking of Hannity or BOR here since they were mentioned in this thread

        I try to be reasonable with these folks, and not totally dismiss them as part of the enemy camp, they are on a leash, and there is a line they can’t cross

        SunDance is a most valuable gem, he takes the bits and pieces of interspersed info, and puts it together like an Enigma Machine for us

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  15. What are we going to do about the pandering by Trump in Iowa with his “I love ethhanol” BS.

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    • dondeg says:

      He made the comment in New Hampshire the other day that ethanol is different in different parts of the country. I suspect his promised ethanol document will acknowledge this and somehow take it into account in a fair way.

      I will be curious to hear his overall energy strategy. He’s dropped hints here and there. He clearly knows that it is central to economic development.

      In fact, it is the one argument that can checkmate any liberal “we’re all going to die” scarcity argument. The history of our species is the history of finding ever more sources of energy to tap into. Going backwards on energy is regression, and is always the wrong side of history.

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    • Sentient says:

      We’re going to pick our battles carefully. I’m not in favor of ethanol subsidies, but getting rid of them is less important than electing the one guy who is right on the three top issues of the day: 1) ending illegal immigration. 2) not ceding sovereignty to international tribunals as with TPP and 3) stopping our expensive, ineffective and stupid nation-building efforts in the Mideast. Besides, some states require different ethanol blends at certain times of the year to mitigate smog, so ethanol is not entirely without merit.

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      • michellc says:

        Immigration should be number one with everybody, you have to start there because if you don’t, ethanol subsidies, abortion, taxes, etc. will be the least of our worries.

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    • Pentheus says:

      Here’s what he said: “I went out to see some of the folks on the ethanol. Good stuff and great people, put a lot of people to work out here. I just want to thank them, they’re doing an amazing job.”

      My guess (hope) is that things like ethanol subsidies will get the ax under “fraud, waste and abuse” in a Trump administration. Instead of saying “we’re going to cut ethanol subsidies” he can say “we’re going to stop wasting money on the development of alternative fuels and let the private sector take over where we left off.”

      Ideally, all federal initiatives not explicitly mentioned in Article 1, section 8 of the constitution should be considered fraud, waste and abuse and left to the private sector and/or the states.

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  16. Tonawanda says:

    Amazing post, SD, just brilliant work. The eye-opening never ends here.

    Now I am worried you are getting enough rest and staying healthy!

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  17. fnn says:

    Mass immigration lowers wages. It’s a simple matter of supply and demand. I think Trump blundered when he said “wages are too high”:

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/10/goodbye-middle-class-51-percent-of-all-american-workers-make-less-than-30000-dollars-a-year.html

    You can find the report that the Social Security Administration just released right here. The following are some of the numbers that really stood out for me…

    -38 percent of all American workers made less than $20,000 last year.

    -51 percent of all American workers made less than $30,000 last year.

    -62 percent of all American workers made less than $40,000 last year.

    -71 percent of all American workers made less than $50,000 last year.

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    • dondeg says:

      I was actually kind of impressed that he said it. He said it in the context of the global economy. It’s a sober realization and he faces it squarely. There are two main wage dilution effects occurring today: the growth of our population (supply/demand: more workers = lower wages) and international competition.

      Both can be overcome if you innovate new industries. If the USA has something new and can monopolize it, even for a short while, this neutralizes both dilution effects because there is no competition from other countries and because it is not a skill just anybody can perform.

      I think what he needs to do is always say “wages are too high” for entry level jobs, and that he will create high paying jobs by fostering innovation.

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    • yy4u says:

      What Trump said was “wages are too high”. What he meant to say was “minimum wages are too high”. Fox of course pounced on that misstatement whereupon they cover up when Rubio or Jebbush step on their tongues trying to fool the voters into thinking they’d do anything but give us more illegals. He’s right. Minimum wages ARE too high. Business can’t afford to hire young people who aren’t worth $10.00/hour and the young people don’t get the experience. Trump needs to stop interrupting himself. He needs to realize that Fox, the WSJ are going to have their antenna up to catch ANY misstep he makes; it’ll be worse when the NY Times et al wade in. He’s on a learning curve. He’ll figure it out. I just hope it’s in time.

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    • annieoakley says:

      I have heard those statistics before and, I too, think that our wages are too high is a mistake. The trouble is that we have given away our technology and manufacturing jobs through NAFTA and other treaties. Now we don’t have good jobs and the ones we do are given to H1-b foreigners.

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    • Serpentor says:

      Yeah, I caught that line, too. Wages ARE too high in the USA if you’re expecting those wages to compete globally. Because they can’t compete globally, you need a little protection from giving away all the jobs to impoverished countries while simultaneously importing more and more cheap labor. In other words, we need protection from the status quo.

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  18. MsCynlynn says:

    Every single piece of news we receive from the media is controlled by the left leaning elite. Fox News is more of a betrayer since they posed as a conservative truth finder. At least the other news providers showed their left leaning bias from the beginning.

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    • dondeg says:

      I hope Sundance doesn’t mind, but, in the context of media, I would recommend people check out noagendashow.com by Adam Curry and John Dvorak. They have a “media deconstruction” podcast. I’ve learned a lot listening to it. Both have worked their lives in the media and they constantly reveal the “behind the scenes” tricks. They are relatively apolitical in their outlooks and mostly focus on media trickery. Sometimes they are really funny too.

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    • yy4u says:

      Exactly. I don’t feel betrayed by MSNBC, I understood from the get go they’re a Lefty organization. I DO feel betrayed by Fox and the Wall street Journal because they lied to me.

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  19. JoeS says:

    Thanks for this eye-opening article Sundance. I am looking for to your weekend series.

    I often check out Ann Coulter’s Twitter page as she has such tremendous funny and hard hitting tweets on immigration.

    She OFTEN re-tweets Mickey Kaus comments which are BOTH truthful and enormously funny.

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  20. Joel says:

    It is both interesting and appalling to see the inner workings of the establishment, the political class and the press in their efforts to subvert our constitution. The take over of our government by the deep pockets of wall street and its minnons on k street is the very thing Diwight Eisenhower and John Kennedy warned us of so many years ago. Our founders warned of this very thing. We find ourselves thus in a struggle to maintain what little freedoms we are left with. The couplation of the various and divergent special interests make for strange bed fellows, yet make truce for the propagation of each’s own sacred cow. It is imperative therefore that we each do our sacred duty and vote and make our voices heard. Its a revolution, to arms, to arms. We must win this election or this grand experiment in liberty could fail.

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  21. Joel says:

    It is both intriguing and appaling to see the inner machinations of the current political system. The complete whoring of the press and the establishment to the interest of the donner class is complete. It is also interesting and disturbing to see the various and divergent special interests in bed together for the promotion of each ones sacred cows. This grand experiment in liberty is therefore in peril and it is up to each of us to do our own sacred duty to revolt in order to preserve this union. This is the very thing which Diwight Eisenhower and John Kennedy warned us of many years ago. It is now up to us, to heed that warning. Vote and hold each accountable.

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  22. Drakken says:

    I hope Trump didn’t jump the shark with his attack on Carson last night. It kind of shocked a lot of people.

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  23. TheLastDemocrat says:

    SD, or anyone else – Can anyone investigate the evangelical angle of that immigration reform bill effort? This was a big deal with bona fide preachers, not those artificial preachers the communists bring up to fake religious support for whatever abomination they are working on that day.

    http://www.bpnews.net/38041

    “Bryant Wright, president of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), and Richard Land, head of the SBC’s ethics entity, were among more than 20 Southern Baptist denominational leaders, academics and pastors who endorsed an “Evangelical Statement of Principles for Immigration Reform.” The Evangelical Immigration Table (EIT), a new coalition, released the statement signed by 150 evangelicals at a Capitol Hill news conference Tuesday (June 12).”

    –That is no small potatoes. Was there some deal to buy their support?

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    • Rene says:

      You might try the search button. There were some older posts that talked about this extensively. It was at the time of the so called “children” immigrants from Central America. There is information in those posts about the associations.

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  24. Ono says:

    Excellent SD!!!

    Rubio comes off smooth and polished because not only was he given the questions prior to the debate, he was also given the answers. All he had to do was memorize them.

    How Rubio is even allowed to run anyway?
    http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html
    Is Rubio a natural born citizen?
    http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

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    • Old fogey says:

      Look at Cruz’ situation. He’s also ineligible to run for president as not only was he born in Canada, his father had not at the time of his birth become a naturalized American citizen. How is it that in a country of so many millions of people we have ended up with two candidates clearly ineligible for the position? One would have thought that since we are currently experiencing what happens when the country’s top administrator is not a natural-born citizen, more attention would have been paid to this requirement. .

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  25. Miss BonBon says:

    It will be very interesting to see how Fox News treats President Trump once he is in office. Will they find fault with all that he does or support him as they do for their favs? We might get back to a President who actually interacts with all channels–Fox wouldn’t get all the “exclusives” any more.

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    • Great questions, Miss BB. I suspect the landslide victory of President Donald Trump will give him the ability to rise above the MSM and go directly to the American people. He’s cunning and strong. He’ll livestream his speeches and messages to the American without the MSM if they mistreat and disrespect him. Donald Trump will not put up with them, no way. He will be elected to solve illegal immigration, to send back the illegals and to stop them from coming back. And he will do what he says.

      The same goes with Congress. When he brings his immigration issues before Congress, he’ll have one helluva mandate and those Congressmen and Senators who want to keep their jobs had better get on board! Ronald Reagan was charismatic in this way and I believe Donald Trump has it too.

      BTW, there are already a number of laws on the books to address the illegal immigration problems. They’re just not being implemented or enforced. Look for Donald Trump to use the tools available to him on day one of his Presidency!

      I’m not listening to any negative polls or scandals or any criticism of Donald Trump. He’s blunt, as plain spoken as they come! He asked how stupid are Iowa voters to support Ben Carson after he admited he violently attacked a friend/close relative and tried to attack his own mother. Trump is not buying Carson’s self-proclaimed healing and redemption… he says the whole story is just weird. He doesn’t trust him and neither do I! That’s just common sense observations. He’s challenging Iowans to really THINK about this narrative of Ben Carson. Who brags about being violent?

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  26. pyromancer76 says:

    Intro. I have been deeply, patriotically ill due to the many lies on the part of all the media since at least the campaign that made a lying, unaccomplished (no real job), marxist-islamist our President. (Our President does not have to be “muslim” in order to be ideological islamist — he can be his version of Christian.) All the necessary information was easily attainable, especially his violent hatred of all things traditionally American, his mother’s similar violent hatred from her birth, his purported father’s violent hatred. Absolutely no secret. This included Fox News at the git go.

    One alternative. I could not become Republican because of the two Bush traitors — ever more big government and seemingly islamist leaning. They (their corporate, bankster supporters) continued with the Jimmy Carter propaganda — we are running out of oil (and everything else) of the 1970s — to maintain the fiction of our need for Saudi oil (the foundation fuel of our/developed economy), thus sending them billions of our dollars, and a foreign policy to keep the other main sources of oil in the middle east out of enemy hands. I watched the global building of oil pipelines and I feared for the future of the U.S. I was right for the wrong reasons. This oil-in-enemy-hands is the one argument I bought in order to somewhat support the war(s) with Iraq. At the same time I knew we were significantly destabilizing an area of the world where, imho, the equivalent to fire ants lived and destroyed — no freedom, productivity or creativity allowed.

    Most important for me was seeing Baby Bush get rid of all “authority” of FBI field officer workers — those who were yelling as loudly as possible that terrorists were in our midst and were training as pilots in Florida — and cement authority in the bureaucratic top echelon after 9/11. “He” also created the Dept of Homeland Security and other centralizing actions. All for nefarious purposes. My hatred is significant; I have to be careful writing.

    Second alternative. My former allegiance to the Democratic Party (as a classical liberal, my fantasy was that the Dems were for the working American (with true competitive businesses), limited government, enhancement of representative democracy, and equality of opportunity. I knew something significant had changed in the 1970’s, but did not understand it until I finally realized that the Dem Party had gone full-blown socialist (taken over by their usual fraudulent means — I watched the socialist-marxist element destroy the Dem Party “bylaws” (Clinton vs Obama) by every fraudulent means and plan to stuff every ballot box they could (ACORN, e.g., which has morphed into an octopus today, I am sure).

    I am very grateful to Sundance for being the first in my opinion to get to a new core of the continuation of this rot in the American body politic. I am extremely grateful to Donald Trump. I hope we are in time.

    My purpose in this long post is to request (not from the hardworking Sundance and crew) but from readers continued efforts to point us to alternative media that have large readership, video/radio audiences — along with the numbers. Increasing numbers mean the message is getting out there. Where do we get the numbers so that we can see the rebuilding of an American fourth estate, without which representative democracy can’t continue? My deep gratitude again for all these efforts on the part of everyone here.

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    • yy4u says:

      Excellent post. I’m new here, too. I’d like to “like” your post but for some reason the program doesn’t allow me to post originals or “like” things. What I’d add to this excellent post is that sometimes we have to “take the wormwood” so to speak. Since 1988, we have been “herded” into voting for the Establishment Republican (Bush pere, Dole, Bush fils, McCain, Romney) out of fear of seeing the Democrat elected. So long as we go along and vote this way, we will continue to have no say in our government. We’ll get to choose between Socialist Democrats or Establishment Democrats (who go by the name of Republicans). Last time a sizable number of conservative/libertarian voters caught on (I was not one of them) and stayed home or voted Libertarian. Romney lost and for four years we’re hearing that it’s those brave folks’ fault for staying home — that Romney would have won had they voted. Well, so what? Would we have not had 11+ million illegals if Romney had won? How would Main Street or the middle class been any different had Romney one. HIS cohorts would have been in power instead of Obama’s. The Wall Street-Big Business-Big Government cabal still would be in power. Our economy might be a little better, ISIS might not have erupted in the ME, but what REALLY would have changed? This time we need to join the 12 million who stayed home or voted Libertarian if our candidate(s) Trump, Carson, Cruz or Paul are defeated by the Establishment. They don’t give a rip what we want once they get elected as proven by Boehner and McConnel (and I suspect Ryan) so why would we be naive enough to elect them? It’s time to clean house and unfortunately the only way to do that might be to let the Democrats win. Hillary is venal and corrupt but at least she doesn’t betray her electorate the way Republicans betray theirs.

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      • Bill says:

        Both of you are exactly right. Like. Like. Like.

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      • ndsnljr says:

        I disagree on this. Yes, it is so important to vote for Donald Trump and not Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, or the others. I don’t think that staying home is the answer, though. I’ve heard of something called The Precinct Project where people can get involved at the local level and perhaps even influence delegate selection or become delegates to the convention. Working within the party is working to an extent at the state level. I definitely understand how you feel about the honesty of Democrats versus the caginess and deceit of the GOPe, but liberals are implementing their agenda so fast that the better option in my opinion is to vote in the primaries. Yes, I agree that Romney would have been influenced by big business. In districts with GOPe leadership, perhaps the best thing to do is to find a candidate now who is conservative and vote for that person in the primaries. I think a Hillary presidency would finish off the agenda with court appointments, treaties, and gun control. I shudder to think what would happen if a conservative justice retired under a Hillary presidency. Pray, too.

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  27. Ziiggii says:

    I hope Gray Delany has not gotten sucked into the fame and fortune his book has brought him. He now works for The 2016 Committee as the Southwest Regional Director.

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  28. fred says:

    I occasionally watch FOX just to notice the clues they drop about how the wind is blowing. They try to be so sneeky but my little 5 year old cousin is better at it. Karl Rove all the way. I keep a barf bag close by when Meygan is on. They are so obvious and give us all a heads up on the political weather changes. Trump gets heat for calling people stupid… Well are women who vote for Hil cause she’s a woman and dismiss all the lies…. stupid… Like a box of rocks…. Same with Carson he’s a total plant and part of the GOPe plan to hurt Trump. Trump bit him in the bu_t… good. No mercy on those playing two sides. Rubio is next to expose.. As we know here these headlines are true but now leaking out to other areas… ByBy Ben nice try…..

    Confirmed: GOP Establishment Prefers Hillary Clinton Over Trump, Carson

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  29. Curry Worsham says:

    Totally bogus hit piece from an establishment darling.
    It’s desperation time.

    http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/72-hours-trump_1063449.html

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  30. Dean Douthat says:

    The left likes to describe wetbacks as merely honest, hard-working and ambitious folks who come here to better themselves and improve America in the process. Let’s grant that as a working hypothesis; then what:

    They are seriously hurting Mexico or other countries of origin by bleeding off their most valuable citizens Thus Mexico, etc. remain third world oligarchies.
    Their vulnerability to extortion results in below market wages which inhibit automation such as has happened in other industries and agriculture.
    Their presence in census data means border states (Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California) are over-represented in House and Electoral College.

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  31. Carolyn McD says:

    It’s Mickey Kaus, not Mickey Glass.

    It’s my guess that the Bush family wants a unified Mexico and U.S. – all one country. And, that this is what the establishment wants too. The Bushes have a relationship with Carlos Slim, the Mexican billionaire media magnate and New York Times major investor.

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    • stella says:

      I’m giving everybody the same stock answer:

      Fixed an hour or so ago. The links clearly pointed to Kaus. Prolly a brain fart; we all get them, especially when you crank out ten substantial posts a day.

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  32. georgiafl says:

    IOTW also sees Soros behind all the ‘world without borders’ globalist agenda: http://iotwreport.com/the-main-obstacle-to-a-stable-and-just-world-order-is-the-united-states-george-soros-head-creatorcheerleader-of-the-mass-refugee-crisis/

    No doubt Buffet has a stake in it as well as the Bush family.

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  33. RINOKiller says:

    People from the left have been waiting for the downfall of FOX News. Except they didn’t expect it would be them doing it to themselves

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  34. Backspin says:

    Arizona Governor, Doug Ducey , creates State Police Border Force – AP News / Phoenix / Bob Christie . Border Strike Force to Aid Sheriffs .
    ” There is no limit to the violence and lawlessness committed by criminals who use our Southern border to smuggle people , illicit drugs ,and money derived from criminal activities .”
    I can hardly wait to see if this gets ignored or spun.

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  35. coltlending says:

    I put my tin-foil hat on today.

    I got the thought a chart of FOX stock is going to look a lot like Macy’s.

    〽️

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  36. Jill says:

    Undocumented students demand vote on in-state tuition
    Nearly 30 protesters entered key lawmaker’s office Thursday
    http://wwlp.com/2015/11/13/undocumented-students-demand-vote-on-in-state-tuition/

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  37. Remington says:

    I haven’t watched Fox for many years now. I could never understand why they provided a platform to all these liberal crooks and creeps to spew their poison. I know, “fair and balanced”….’When explaining the Fox game plan to other conservatives, you get that 1000 yard stare. They come back and say they intend to… watch it anyway. I guess some people feel being lied to is a form on entertainment. In our home, it’s OAN…

    Also, it’s disheartening when you forward this data from the CTH, and you just know they are not reading/studying it to draw valid conclusions. What’s a man to do?…’talk about casting pearls before swine…Frustrating.

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  38. Old fogey says:

    Many thanks, Sundance, for all of your work. Since I chanced upon this site, I am finally beginning to understand some of the conundrums that confound our political news. I look forward to reading the material you will put together this weekend. God speed, and stay well.

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  39. Lulu says:

    Byron York:

    The immigration system Marco Rubio wanted

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-immigration-system-marco-rubio-wanted/article/2576240

    The 2013 Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill is the signature achievement of Marco Rubio’s four years and ten months in the U.S. Senate. Yet in the first four Republican presidential debates, in which Rubio has played an increasingly prominent role, he has not been asked even once about the specifics of the legislation.

    Despite that omission, it seems likely that if Rubio continues to rise in the GOP race, someone, somewhere will pay attention to his most important accomplishment. The 1,197-page Gang of Eight bill is so far-reaching, and at the same time so detailed, that it provides a sharp picture of where Rubio would like to take the U.S. immigration system. Rubio has renounced parts of his own work, but it’s not clear which parts, and it’s not clear if he has renounced them for good or only until he determines they are more politically practicable.

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    • RINOKiller says:

      To the point the United States is no more

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    • Crystal says:

      I don’t trust Rubio. I’ve heard he says one thing in front of English-speaking audiences and another in front of Spanish-speaking. He’s claimed to favor Bari’s Dream Act right now and then to work legislatively on future amnesty.

      There’s an extremely upsetting video up at Breitbart.com on the EU migrant crisis that’s reportedly going viral in Europe. I think you should all see it (19 mins.) I don’t know if it’s at the top of the page right now or you might have to scroll down. Coming to a city near you soon if Bari has his way.

      A certain former Nazi collaborator recently admitted to being behind the migrant crisis in Europe. From the video at Breitbart, it gives the appearance (IMO) that a number of EU officials have been bought and paid for to support the destruction of that continent, claiming that without this massive migration and multiculturalism, Europe will not survive.

      Please watch it.

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  40. Lulu says:

    Daniel Horowitz at Conservative Review:

    Cruz Fought Amnesty, Rubio Fought Conservatives

    https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/11/cruz-fought-amnesty-rubio-fought-conservatives

    I remember the spring of 2013 like it was yesterday. It was one of the busiest times of my career. Republicans were working overtime to codify Obama’s open borders agenda into law, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) was the ring leader of the effort. The voice of the people was not being heard and we were subjected to fallacious talking points on a daily basis.

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  42. judyw says:

    Freedom of speech is meaningless when a foreign licensee of a broadcast station owns the mute button. If you think it’s hard to get unbiased news from radio and TV now, just wait until your local broadcast stations and other media properties are owned and operated by the Chinese, Russian or Mexican governments, or the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Amazingly, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) wants to make it easier for foreigners to buy and run local radio and TV stations. The federal entity that monitors the media is proposing more foreign ownership of the U.S. media in the name of “diversity.”

    Rupert Murdoch is one of a small number of media owners who successfully jumped those hurdles, and he did so in part by changing his citizenship from Australian to American. But now the FCC wants to remove those limits altogether. The FCC wants to routinely grant licenses to foreigners just like they do for the mom & pop broadcasters next door. Essentially, they want to fast track the approval process for foreign ownership. They recently issued a public notice (GNDocket No. 15-236) and they are asking for comments from the public about their plans.
    You must submit comments to the FCC by December 21st (Identify Docket No. 15–236).
    Use any of the following methods:

    FCC’s ECFS Web site: http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs2/
    Federal eRulemaking Portal: http://www.regulations.gov
    Mail to: FCC, 445 12th Street, SW, Washington, DC 20554

    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-fcc-plans-sale-of-u-s-media-to-foreigners/

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  44. joshuasweatt says:

    The President of the United States is both an honor and considered one of the world’s most powerful people. The US Presidents List

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