Sandra Bland Had Long History of Driving/Legal Infractions – Family Who Refused to Assist With Bail Now Refusing To Accept “Suicide”…

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There’s a particular irony with the sister of Sandra Bland, Sharon Cooper, going on television to state she blames the Waller County Texas jail for her sister’s demise, when Sharon Cooper refused to aid Sandra while she was in jail for 3 days.

According to media reports the jail cell had a phone within it for use, and additionally allowed Ms. Bland to make at least five phone calls while she was held from a police desk outside her cell because she was having trouble with the phone.

You can hear one of those calls here.

Apparently, Ms. Bland was trying to put together $500 for a bond payment and none of her family, including her sister Sharon, were willing to assist.

Additionally, NBC in Chicago has found that Ms. Bland had a rather extensive history with driving violations including DUI’s and failure to pay fines associated with at least 10 infractions.

NBC5 Investigates has found that – at the time of her death last Friday — she still owed a total of $7,579.00 in court fines resulting from five traffic stops in various Chicago suburbs (including a DUI), and she had been cited several times for her failure to pay those fines.

[…] March of 2013 – Bland was stopped in Crestwood Township while driving a 2013 Cadillac DeVille and received two citations – for speeding 21-25 mph above the limit, and for operating an uninsured motor vehicle. She was fined $200, which – according to Cook County Court records – has not been paid.

November of 2013 – A report in a suburban newspaper says that Bland was arrested in Naperville; charged on a warrant, and transported to DuPage County Jail. The news report does not say what the warrant was for.

February of 2014 – Bland was stopped by Lombard Police and charged with operating an uninsured motor vehicle and driving with expired license plates. She was convicted in both charges and fined, but by May of 2014 court records show that she still owed $2,769.00 in fines, and the judge ordered that the Illinois Secretary of State be notified of her failure to pay.

March 3, 2014 – Naperville Police cited Bland for operating an uninsured motor vehicle. Court records show she was ordered to pay a fine, but was cited twice for failure to pay. In June of 2014 the court ordered that the Illinois Secretary of State be notified, and the docket lists a $1,313.00 balance still due.

March 8, 2014 – Approximately five days after her stop in Naperville, Bland was stopped by police in Lombard and charged with two counts of driving under the influence; speeding 15-20 mph over the speed limit; improper lane usage; disobeying a traffic control signal; failing to signal when changing lanes; driving on a suspended license, and operating an uninsured motor vehicle. The court found her guilty of one DUI charge, and all the other charges were dismissed. She received court supervision and was fined, and court records show that she still owes $3,132.00 in this case. (A spokesman with the Illinois Secretary of State’s office says Bland’s driver’s license was automatically suspended for six months – until November of 2014 – as a result of this DUI conviction.)

During that suspension – in May of 2014 – Naperville Police cited Bland for speeding 15-20 mph over the limit. According to the DuPage County court docket, Bland “fail[ed] to comply” in the case in June of 2014 and again in August of 2014, when the court ordered the Illinois Secretary of State to be notified. Records show a $45.00 balance due in this case, though a court spokesman says the actual amount owed is $165.00. The outcome in this case is not clear.

These notifications would have come up when Bland next tried to renew her license, according to the Illinois Secretary of State spokesman, and she would be required to pay all balances due. NBC5 Investigates found five other police encounters involving Sandra Bland ranging from 2010 back to 2004 (read more)

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In addition, despite Sandra Bland self-reporting a previous 2014 attempt at suicide following the loss of a baby – her family says they are unaware of such an incident.

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Meanwhile initial reports of the autopsy show she Ms. Bland had been cutting herself (scars), and had considerable levels of marijuana in her system.

It would appear a disconnected family, and the sense of isolation, might very well have led to an overpowering sense of desperation – ultimately resulting in her suicide while in jail.

[…] Waller County Dist. Atty. Elton Mathis has said officials are investigating the death as if it were murder, in order to leave no aspect unexamined.

Mosley and others have called for federal officials to take over the investigation.

“We have heard her voice and heard her charge us not to rest,” said the Rev. David Madison, pastor at Greater Ward AME Church in Houston, who helped coordinate and lead Bland’s memorial. “She did not drive all the way from Illinois to hang herself. There is no way. They’re really insulting our intelligence.”

Mosley recalled how unnerved Bland was by the killing of young black people at the hands of police. (link)

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394 Responses to Sandra Bland Had Long History of Driving/Legal Infractions – Family Who Refused to Assist With Bail Now Refusing To Accept “Suicide”…

  1. Director says:

    Don’t you have to put your cigarette down when you sign your name?

    She was being passive aggressive and in a small way indicating non compliance.

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    • brendan o neill says:

      So the cop was right to arrest her for being passive aggressive? If you were arrested for being in your words ‘passive aggressive’ would you accept it or would you consider it a violation of your human rights? Being passive aggressive is not illegal. Do you think it is right for the cop to threaten to ‘drag the woman out of the car’? What man talks like that to a woman, only a thug

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      • Director says:

        You can’t sign your name if you have a ciggie in your hand.

        That’s what I’m getting at.

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        • brendan o neill says:

          Well done everybody on ignoring what I asked! What man threatens to drag a woman out of a car? Would you ever talk to a woman in your family that way, I hope not, and no you only need one hand to sign a page, it is possible to sign with one hand and hold cigarette in the other! You implied she was being passive aggressive? Is that illegal?

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          • Director says:

            She was a stroppy bitch.

            My girlfriend was arrested during a party bust after she hit a cop when she was a teen.

            He manhandled her and taught her a lesson she never forgot.

            The Po’ woman needed a rod.

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          • SingingLatisha says:

            One day when I was 4 years old, my mom was driving me to pre-school when we got pulled over by a state trooper on the side of the highway. Her registration had expired, but she was unaware of this until after we obeyed his orders and got out of the car. I started to cry because of how mean and scary he was, but he continued to yell at my mother. He called to have the car towed, and demanded we walk about a half mile to the nearest rest stop where we could use a payphone. It was raining and we were on a highway, so my mother had to carry me the whole way. Was the guy unnecessarily being a jerk? Yes. I also believe if my mom had talked back to him or disrespected him, he would’ve used force and probably would’ve arrested her. My mother and I remember the incident as particularly traumatic because a year prior, my father lost all of our money and left us. My mom was also running late that day for a new job she depended on to feed me. She was also stressed because she had been driving me to a pre-school she couldn’t afford, and now her car, by far the most expensive thing she owned, was being impounded. We were coming at the situation already harboring a sense of injustice from the world, so this state trooper’s actions seemed totally abhorrent and wrong. In retrospect however, she and I both admit that the cop was acting well within his rights. Her registration had after all expired, and cops aren’t required to drive people to a safe location if their car is towed. Although I do wish more cops had a greater sense of decency, I also wish victims and the families of victims would work just a little harder at checking themselves and their emotions. There are plenty of awful horrible injustices that happen every day to black people; lets not deprive those true injustices of their significance by watering them down in the media with Sandra Bland type stories. Sandra Bland’s arrest could’ve been the result of racial tension or racial profiling, but it is highly inconclusive. She was insubordinate and rude, and regardless of who started it, she assaulted an officer. It’s possible she was the victim of an unjust traffic stop, but at this point it’s overwhelmingly obvious that she did commit suicide. Her family is naturally in shock, but her family also didn’t seem to know her too well, given they insisted she did not have epilepsy and had never attempted suicide, both of which Sandra Bland herself acknowledged. It can be hard to temper our emotions, but it’s necessary to do if we want to end true injustice.

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      • Monroe says:

        I think she was arrested for assaulting an officer when she kicked him.

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        • brendan o neill says:

          I think it turned out that that was a lie. The cop refused to tell the woman why she was being arrested. Do you think it is right for a man to threaten to drag a woman out of her car, if so you are a thug

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          • Director says:

            I have no sympathy for her.

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          • Monroe says:

            A person can only be responsible for their own behavior. SB didn’t have control over the officer’s behavior but she did have control of her own. SB chose to be combative.

            Under certain circumstances it is appropriate for a man to threaten to pull a woman out of a car. In this case, I think the officer is being reprimanded for not following policy.

            No need for name calling.

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      • Jason Beeman says:

        A traffic ticket is essentially a summons to go to court. If you refuse to accept the summons, they will arrest you on the spot and hold you until the court date or you get bailed out.

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      • Anubis says:

        Given her arrest record they might have meet before.

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      • He arrested her for failure to comply and the she resisted arrest.

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    • Rob Harper says:

      Family and friends let Ms. Bland down because of her past actions and now they want to blame the world instead of facing the truth. So sad.

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    • Yes, Like if you have a dr pepper or something in your hand you have to put it down.

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    • Jen says:

      There’s a good chance he smelled A LOT of pot.

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  2. peachteachr says:

    I’m 66 and disabled. The last time I saw blue lights in my rearview mirror: I drove to a safe place, I turned on my interior lights, and I placed my hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. I got a warning. I am teaching my 14 year old grandson the rules already.
    BTW, I live in a rural area that has an interstate running through it. Last year my county made over $1.6 million in fines. They are unashamed by this and print it in our little weekly paper. If you’re headed to the beach, slow down or you will help us fill our potholes.

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  3. Tracer Round says:

    Suicide rate in Borderline Personality Disorder is about 50x higher than the general population

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  4. Judgy says:

    Although the family would clearly rather scream about this being a potential anti-BLM murder (that seems to be where they’re heading, even if left unsaid), isn’t there still money to be made if she was ABLE to kill herself while in custody?

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    • boutis says:

      In her prior “attempt” by taking pills resulting in a hospital visit, she may have a propensity to do impulsive things to get attention or to get out of her problems. She may have accidentally completed a suicide attempt. Remember she wasn’t hanging but rather slumped with her feet on the floor with the bag wrapped around her neck. She cut off her air supply, perhaps accidentally, passed out and then asphyxiated. There have been other deaths with accidental asphyxiated some high profile people. How do jails, jail transport like Freddie Gray, preclude every single way to self harm? They will have to bring suit in Texas and it won’t go like in IL or FL.

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      • archer52 says:

        I wonder if she thought in killing herself she would become something a value- a martyr

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      • Judgy says:

        Thanks. I was just anticipating how the family may switch from the “Somebody murdered her!” theme to a “Well, you shoulda been WATCHING her!” one. Could be interesting to see, if they backpedal at all. Good insight that this may have even been an “accidentally completed” suicide attempt. That’s sad. I still sometimes find it hard to believe that a string of black people fighting arrest has been manipulated into the circus that 2014-15 has become, but then again, never underestimate the dishonesty of the MSM, the greed of the BGI, and the diabolical shamelessness of the Left.

        I wish these cases would convince more blacks NOT to resist arrest, rather than the other way ’round.

        If it weren’t for the illegal immigrant problem in Texas, although considerably smaller than what we here in CA face, i would move there as promptly as possible–I LOVE the Texas attitude!

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  5. director says:

    So she ate a quarter onze of hash/weed? bwahahahahahah.

    lol. She must have been in near psychosis for hours after that. Hilarious.

    Has anyone ever ingested that much gear? It’s like a hit of acid. But much shorter in duration.

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  6. VegasGuy says:

    It is now officially ruled a suicide…….

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sandra-bland-death-ruled-suicide-hanging-texas-prosecutor-says-n397351

    End of “spin” story….The family let her rot in jail, she had major issues, she “offed” herself.

    No payday here for the Family or the BGI. (Notice how no one of “fame” made any noise?)

    Can’t “milk” a dead cow when death was by their own means.

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    • kc10lvr says:

      We can all only hope this will be laid to rest…along side Ms. Bland….

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      • VegasGuy says:

        “We can all only hope this will be laid to rest”

        Like …Move along folks….nothing to “sue” here?/s/

        I don’t think they are quite finished just yet. The next angle will most probably be that the jailers knew (as she self proclaimed) she was suicidial & did not place her on 24 hr watch.

        Again, they will attempt divert all attention as far away from the fact that the Family basically dis-avowed her & left her to her own short comings & known issues.

        She’s Black, she’s dead, somebody’s gotta “pay”. Isn’t that always the game in any event?

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        • doodahdaze says:

          Nope the fambly is having her chopped up and dissected. But they did not even bail her out for 500 bucks bond. Good Grief.

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        • kc10lvr says:

          “Like …Move along folks….nothing to “sue” here?/s/”

          You betcha! But I know better. The collective ‘they’, will not let it rest quite yet. Garnered too much attention to quietly go away.

          “She’s Black, she’s dead, somebody’s gotta “pay”. Isn’t that always the game in any event?”

          Sure is. Sad but true. $$ in death is the name of the game.

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    • boutis says:

      The state trooper violated the “courtesy” policy. He isn’t in trouble either. He will get a talking to. If the family wants anything else they have to file a lawsuit that will be dismissed or they will loose. No “go away” money coming.

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      • Monroe says:

        I think he violated more than the courtesy policy. I don’t think it is correct procedure for an officer to say to a citizen that he is going to “light you up”. Also the reaching in the car to pull her our was also likely a violation. If nothing else it was stupid from an officer safety standpoint.

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      • Ladylaw says:

        The trooper violated more than the courtesy policy. The constitution, rule of law, and US Supreme Court decisions apply to the great State of Texas. There is absolutely no way that this man is not in trouble for his actions.

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        • jonwoodhouse says:

          The cop had no legal right to have her put out her cigarette. She had a legal right to refuse to talk to him other than identifying herself. He did not have the legal right to say get out of the car unless there was a reason. He can’t just say ‘get out of the car’ for a traffic offense. Just saying ‘Get out of the car,’ in and of itself, without an explanation, is not lawful. He had no legal right to physically “yank” her out of her vehicle unless she posed a threat to his welfare and safety. She didn’t. He had an obligation as a law enforcement officer to tell her why she is under arrest. You can’t tell from the video that there’s any reason to have her under arrest. And he was clearly violating her constitutional rights when he said “get out of the car, or I will light you up.”
          It doesn’t matter how many DUI’s, tickets etc she had in the past, what happened was a travesty.

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          • E Boudreaux says:

            For the wellbeing of others, disregard all but one of the above, Yes, you may say nothing at all to LE and yes, you will be delivered to the nearest jail in jurisdiction.

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          • The police have every right to order someone to exit their vehicle, and compliance is required. this is black letter law.

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          • Suzanne Thompson says:

            The voice of reason, and yes it is tragic. First, I will assert that any trained mental health expert will pick up on passive aggressive behavior coming from the officer from the very start of the dialogue. The fact that Sandra Bland called out his poor attitude made his blood boil, you can bank on it. Would not be surprised at all if domestic abuse is part of his repertoire. The reason for the stop was questionable at best, a constitutional violation at its worst. Narcissistic behaviors need to be screened for and rooted out of police departments. And abuses need to see the bright light of scrutiny, not swept away.

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            • Chip Bennett says:

              The fact that Sandra Bland called out his poor attitude made his blood boil, you can bank on it.

              Irrelevant, because the officer did nothing unlawful.

              Would not be surprised at all if domestic abuse is part of his repertoire.

              Even more irrelevant, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the traffic stop.

              The reason for the stop was questionable at best, a constitutional violation at its worst.

              Sandra Bland violated a driving ordinance, and was lawfully detained for citation of that violation. FULLSTOP.

              Narcissistic behaviors need to be screened for and rooted out of police departments. And abuses need to see the bright light of scrutiny, not swept away.

              The officer did nothing unlawful.

              More importantly: neither the officer nor the lawful traffic stop had anything at all to do with Sandra Bland’s suicide.

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              • BigAlSouth says:

                Sandra Bland killed herself. Sandra killed herself because she felt her family abandoned her when she needed them. The officer’s conduct had no legally sufficient causation.

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              • Suzanne Thompson says:

                Chip, you come across as disrespectful of the thoughts of others. I did not comment on this site to spar with you, but rather to express my opinion on the matter. It is understood that we are not in agreement, yet I did not feel the need to dissect your prior posts in an attempt to argue with your logic.

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                • Chip Bennett says:

                  The Treehouse is not a Safe Space. Disagreement with other commenters is not microaggression. I disagreed with your opinion, and stated that disagreement. Doing so is not evidence of disrespect for your thoughts.

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  7. Stamp says:

    Caint Obama fix it so her careless family walks with a few mil of that victim money?

    Even though she seems to be a victim of her own bad choices, and the BGI FTP machine.

    PSA # 532

    Just say “yessir, putting out my smoke sir”

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  8. Stamp says:

    Plus with all those priors facing her down and tall fines, I mean, at which moment on earth do you grow a clue and become tactful? How does one hate cops and the system so MUCH they dont realize their attitude is speeding their demise?

    Deray, Bassem, Sharpton… even Obama. What a sad mental disease.

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  9. Stamp says:

    I saw the note she had “lot of THC” any record of how much she took?

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  10. ed357 says:

    So let me get this straight……

    The cop was a “dick” and helped escalate the situation resulting in Ms Bland going to jail for a traffic misdemeanor……

    Ms Bland went to jail and was fuzzy about suicide and previous attempts during the lockup phase……..

    Ms Bland repeatedly called family members including her sister (Sharon Cooper) to raise $500 bail money to get her out…….

    Three days later Ms Bland is found hanging from the jailhouse ceiling dead……

    So Ms Bland was not worth $500 for her sister (Sharon Cooper) while alive…….but by God her sister (Sharon Cooper) thinks Ms Bland’s death will be worth millions to Sharon Cooper….now.

    Evil……pure evil.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      They will chop her up in little pieces to try and get de money.

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    • belle says:

      She’s worth more than dead than alive. At least her “family” thinks so. They see nothing but a paycheck coming. Who cares that she’s gone! Sad times indeed.

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    • bobNoxious says:

      She went to jail for assault on a LEO, not a traffic violation. She was not even charged with the traffic violation, just assault on LEO.

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    • AdukeLAXobserver says:

      The cop was such a meanie he was going to give her a warning…

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      • Yeah he was really tough.

        I remember getting stopped for speeding and the cop asked why I was in such a rush, so I told him I was running late for work.

        He was really nice about it and told me “Don’t worry, it will only take me a minute to write this citation”.

        Kind of funny when I think back on it…

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        • abrellbama says:

          It’s all on how nice you are to the police officer. My daughter has a “lead foot”. She, myself and my grandson were on our way to the Zoo when a police officer pulled us over for speeding. My daughter didn’t even realize that she was because we were talking so much. The police officer was really nice and let us go with a warning. It’s all on how respectful and nice you are to the officer.

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  11. doodahdaze says:

    Did her actions during the stop give the cop a reasonable suspicion that a crime had, was, or would be committed? She was seized when he pulled her over for the traffic violation. She was arrested when he told her she was under arrest. She is a BGI warrior for something or other. She had a chip on her shoulder so big I am surprised she could even walk. Now to the BGI she is a “victim.” I agree she is a victim of the BGI and all their minions.

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  12. bobNoxious says:

    CNN is now reporting that the woman was INCREDIBLY angry and upset with friends and family for refusing to bail her out. I said this was the most likely scenario yesterday. She wanted to teach those people a lesson by attempting suicide again. Sadly this time it worked.

    Even with all this new evidence, CNN continues to put kooks on TV to give credence to some massive cover up murder idea.

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  13. Mist'ears Mom says:

    Who is paying for this “2nd” autopsy? They didn’t have $500 to bail her out but now want a 2nd autopsy? The audacity of these black grifters never ceases to amaze me. Have they got their go fund me page up to profit from the ‘unjust’ racist arrest and death of this poor woman?
    Meanwhile they are wasting our public services/officials time running them around with their demands for ‘justice’ for them not the loved one they ignored when she needed them.
    These people disgust me.

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  14. Just Tea says:

    Sandra Bland had a facebook account with videos. She was a BLM activist.
    https://www.facebook.com/sandra.bland.5070/videos

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  15. Ruthie says:

    I can’t believe some of the insensitive remarks made on this site. The bottom line is a white rookie cop trailed a young African American female. She changed lanes to let him pass and he pulled her over. He was a predator looking for prey. She was the right color for every prejudice he had in his bones to rise up as he wanted to find a problem when there was not one there. Sandra had every right to be upset. Probably not wise to not act calmly, but she had a right to know why she had to leave the car. Now you all know had she been blond with blue eyes, this situation would never have occurred. Those of you thinking this family is not sad to lose a loved one is just as bad as the arresting officer. You do not see this promising (yet not perfect) young lady as a human being worth being treated with the same dignity and respect that you would expect for yourself.
    And it does not matter if she had problems in the past or if she had marajuana, this officer was clearly out of line.
    I do feel that Sandra probably felt that her family did not care about her if they allowed her to remain I jail for three days. Certainly they could have posted the five hundred dollars bond so she could have left the unsavory conditions of the jail cell. But the blame is on the shoulders of the officer. She should have never been stopped or jailed. Equal,application of the law would have us all in jail since every driver out there has changed lanes without signaling.

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    • Burnt Toast says:

      Yup, it should be totally legal to drive around like you’re drunk such as changing lanes without signaling.

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    • Sandra says:

      Cop pulls me over, I obey his instructions, I answer his questions, I get a ticket, I drive off, and I don’t commit suicide. It’s really that simple, Ruthie.

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    • She changed lanes to let him pass and he pulled her over. He was a predator looking for prey.

      No, he is an officer who was enforcing traffic laws passed by his state. That’s his JOB.

      Sandra had every right to be upset.

      Maybe, but she also had a responsibility to follow his LEGAL commands, “upset” or not.

      Now you all know had she been blond with blue eyes, this situation would never have occurred.

      We do? REALLY? THAT is a racist’s opinion.

      Those of you thinking this family is not sad to lose a loved one…

      Who said that the family isn’t sad?

      You do not see this promising (yet not perfect) young lady as a human being…

      So, let me get this straight… YOU know what people are thinking even better than they, themselves, do? Humbug.

      …worth being treated with the same dignity and respect that you would expect for yourself.

      Oh, here we go… the worn out argument that she (or you?) is somehow being “disrespected”… that’s just plain crap…

      …this officer was clearly out of line…

      Really? From what I saw (and heard) he was completely “in line” until she became argumentative and non compliant, which is behavior that is common in other incidents where officers have been shot and/or killed while completing simple traffic stops. How was he to know that she didn’t have a weapon concealed in the car, or on her person, and could have been building up the courage to pull it and fire on him? He “took command” of the situation after that, and was not physically abusive of her while doing so.

      I do feel that Sandra probably felt that her family did not care about her…

      Maybe so. And maybe THEY had a reason to not bail her out. Could it be that they had bailed her out before, and decided that this time she needed to learn some sort of “tough love” lesson from this one? But, oh no… she wasn’t having any of THAT, was she? Oh no… she sure showed THEM, didn’t she?

      But the blame is on the shoulders of the officer.

      No it isn’t. Just like every one of the “victim mentality” ilk, you simply refuse to admit that this woman did this to herself.

      She should have never been stopped…

      Really? Why shouldn’t she have been stopped? She committed a traffic infraction right in front of the officer. Was there something “special” about driver that makes her above the same traffic laws that the rest of us are expected to obey? If so, PLEASE tell me what the source of that “preferred status” is. I want me some of that…

      … or jailed.

      Why not? Did she just draw a “Get Out of Jail Free Card” from the “Monopoly Game” at McDonald’s? Or did she have some “special privilege” that is not available to the rest of us? Really… I want to know WHY it is that some people think they can argue with officers, refuse their lawful commands, physically resist their efforts to take them into custody, and even assault the officers, but then react with shock and amazement when they find themselves getting a free ride to the GrayBar Hilton?

      Equal,application of the law would have us all in jail since every driver out there has changed lanes without signaling.

      Oh, so everyone who ever gets stopped for “Failure to signal” should act the way this woman did? Seriously, I never got THAT memo, which might explain why I ONLY GOT A TICKET the last time I got stopped for doing that very thing. Stupid me. I just said “Yes, Sir” and “No Sir” and signed my ticket. WHO KNEW?

      Now, on a more serious note…. oh… never mind…. I don’t want to get banned for telling you what I REALLY think about the thought processes you might have used to formulate your comment.

      This woman got stopped for a simple traffic infraction, escalated it into a more serious confrontation with an officer, then assaulted him and got herself arrested in the process. And then…. and then…. wait for it…. she hung herself in her own jail cell.

      And people who make half-witted excuses for her behavior are encouraging others to behave in the same manner.

      Let me ask… how well did that kind of thinking work for Sandra Bland?. Oh yeah… she’s… well, you know.

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    • Les says:

      “Now you all know had she been blond with blue eyes, this situation would never have occurred.”

      You lose credibility when you post stuff like that. You don’t know that. It isn’t provable.

      IF she had been a decent, well-adjusted human being this wouldn’t have happened. You won’t say that because that IS something she could have controlled instead of using her blackness gene as an excuse.

      Keep giving people who make bad decisions an easy out and keep seeing the same results. How does that help?

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    • BitterC says:

      Actually, she ran a stop sign in front of cop. He pulled a U turn to follow her. She was not prey and he was no predator. All he wrote her was a warning. If she had shown common sense and a little respect to officer the interaction would never have escalated.

      That said, it’s pretty disengenuos to blame her suicide on the cop.

      Uncut full video http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/07/22/dps-dashcam-reveals-real-reason-for-sandra-bland-traffic-stop-vindicates-trooper/

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      • WCRollerSkate says:

        Why didn’t he just say that then? Why make up the story about changing lanes? This cop seems incapable of telling the truth. He is the professional in this situation and he may have done well to show some respect.

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        • Chip Bennett says:

          It wasn’t a made-up story. She changed lanes without signaling.

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          • WCRollerSkate says:

            What I mean is, why didn’t he just pull her over for running the stop sign then? Why create a new reason if he already had one?

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            • Chip Bennett says:

              Why do you think such questions are even relevant? The traffic stop was lawful. FULLSTOP.

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              • WCRollerSkate says:

                It’s ALL relevant to the competence and integrity of that officer. He is a LIAR according to that dash cam – FULLSTOP.

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                • Chip Bennett says:

                  What, precisely, was the officer’s lie, according to the dash cam?

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                  • WCRollerSkate says:

                    His whole account of the incident to his supervisor in a phone call at the scene is filled with embellishments and omissions to make Sandra Bland the aggressor. The same is true of this written report.
                    Here’s a video that encompasses it all quite nicely.

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                  • Chip Bennett says:

                    What, in his retelling to the supervisor, was a lie? You said he lied. What, specifically was or were the lie or lies?

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                  • WCRollerSkate says:

                    Did you watch the video?

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                  • Chip Bennett says:

                    I watched about 2/3 of the video that Sundance posted. If you tell me what you claim to be lies, then I’ll watch, and evaluate those claims.

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                  • WCRollerSkate says:

                    The video does a pretty good job of objectively aligning the officer’s stories with the actual dashcam video. I do not have time to type it all out for you because you seem to want to stay willfully ignorant. Watch it or don’t, it doesn’t change the fact that officer is caught lying on tape.

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                  • Chip Bennett says:

                    Willfully ignorant? No. What I want to do is have a discussion with a person who articulates points, not with a video.

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                  • WCRollerSkate says:

                    I wouldn’t introduce it into the conversation if it wasn’t useful in doing so.

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                  • BigAlSouth says:

                    Skater, as a dispassionate observer of the dialogue between you and Chip, I can only conclude that you do not possess the inclination or intellect to engage in a meaningful dialogue.

                    Chip said “tell me where the video shows the cop is lying” and you shrug your shoulders and reply “it’s in the video.” Well, the video version I saw is 52 min long. Can you try once again to articulate a point? I know you’re probably a bottom third public school victim, but give it your best shot! Maybe you’ll get a trophy for trying!

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                  • WCRollerSkate says:

                    The video I posted is about 6 minutes long and shows exactly where the cop is lying. Gold star for minding your own business!

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                  • BigAlSouth says:

                    Excellent non- response! Now pretend me and Chip are blind and articulate where the cop is “lying”!

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                  • WCRollerSkate says:

                    Looks like the video is now down. Here is another link – https://youtu.be/49_wNH9OiYA

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    • JeremyR says:

      Stopped, yes. Jailed, well, with her driving record, and unpaid fines, There is less gray then we might like. The officer did not appear to be aware of her propensity for disregarding the law, but that would have been ample justification to haul her in. Yes, he got out of line. He should have explained to her why she was being asked to step out of the vehicle, and done so in a calm manner. his job is to control the situation not throw gas on the fire.
      Police often stop people for minor stuff like that. In part it is because there are a lot of people driving on suspended. with out insurance, High, or who may be involved in some illegal activity. They then filter the situation and send the small fish back into the stream of life.
      Instead, two heads butted, and they both lost. He is on suspension stuck at a desk. He may lose his job over this, then again, they may chock it up to learning and send him back out.

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    • BigAlSouth says:

      Ruthie, Babydoll. It wasn’t her RACE that got her pulled over, it was her OUT OF STATE ILLINOIS LICENSE PLATE. And trust me, if the driver with the OOS license plate was blond hair-blue eyed, just MORE the reason to pull her over. Sure, he was a predator. Just looking for some cash for the county.

      Dang, girl. Don’t be such a raciss.

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    • Director says:

      As a bitterly racist 40 year old with a couple of decades of experience with conflict…

      No actual racist seeks out blacks to fight with. We avoid you and at almost any cost.

      I wish blacks no harm but experience has taught me to keep clear.

      A white racist seeks to avoid. Most black racists are aggressive and confrontational.

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    • abrellbama says:

      The police officer was extremely polite. He kept being polite until he could no longer take it. She was rude, arrogant, and disgusting from the very beginning. She deserved to be arrested. Then her low life family wouldn’t even pony up the $500.00 to bail her out. Probably because of her mouth.

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    • I guess you don’t know the officer WAS NOT white then? Or the female officer who backed him up was black? Or everyone of the jail staff dealing with her were black or Hispanic? You really are a bright one aren’t you??

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    • gadsenfly says:

      I’m of the same sentiment as you about the insensitive comments made here. I come here for the truth. The truth hurts but it doesn’t mean salt needs to be thrown in the wound.
      That being said. Im wondering about what you said about if she had blond hair and blue eyes that the situation would be different.
      Seconds before Bland failed to signal a right turn and ran a stop sign in front of a cop the rookie was finishing up giving a warning to a female student at the college. Their conversation was polite and cordial. Hardly an encounter with prejudice in his bones. The chance of the college driver being blue eyed and blond? Less than 1% according to the black college demographics.

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    • Alberto Flores says:

      The cop was actually Hispanic btw…

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    • Aimee says:

      Firstly, Why do you think black people are the only ones stopped for “trivial” things. Yes, the cop was out of line and rude as in my experience cops are.
      Second, no one is saying that it’s a tragedy she died. I think what most people are saying and what the facts support is that she killed herself and that is due, not to the actions of the arresting officer, but her actions. That is she put a garbage bag around her own neck. The officer did not cause her death and to suggest that is preposterous

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    • Astorian says:

      He was hispanic….

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  16. kinthenorthwest says:

    They say sister was flying in from chicago to pay her bail…Give me a break who pays a few hundred dollars to fly in to pay a bail.

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  17. 2bn3mr says:

    I don’t know if this has been shared yet…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Q_52rOk4Q

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    • Les says:

      Sandy Speaks really loudly. I dislike loud people as they invade everybody’s space without consent.

      The FTP/BLM crowd are doing more damage to their cause than promotion. The “normal” people stopped listening and caring and the crazy ones didn’t need to be persuaded in the first place.

      I’m not glad she’s dead and I think she died under horrible circumstances in a horrible location and all alone. But the FTP/BLM crowd doesn’t want me to care, they want me to AGREE and I just can’t do that.

      These people turned a message of kindness (Black Lives Matter) into a political statement that has nothing to do with the value of every human life. They made that statement a wrong statement by lies and violence and destruction and being loud and obnoxious.

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    • nivico says:

      Oh wow… here’s Sandra Bland hysterical after being involved in a car & motorcycle accident.

      Can any of the uber talented internet sleuths here find details on the accident… particularly who was at fault?

      Given Bland’s driving record, it’s a good bet she caused this accident.

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  18. Sandra says:

    I feel bad for Texas, all of these Chicago grifters moving down there.

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    • Les says:

      They mostly stay in the urban areas. You don’t see many in the wide-open.

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    • JeremyR says:

      Kansas is getting a hellthy dose as well. Had one guy here I knew who bragged he could get any gun we wanted in Chiraq for a price. There seemed to be a steady flow from there to here that linked directly to him. Last I heard he had moved on to Texas. My suspicion was he was involved in running guns and drugs. Mentioned him to the local PD. Nothing ever came of it. We had two drive by shootings here related to him. One on his house, one on a “cousin”.

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  19. BillDes says:

    A typical case for the BGI to champion as it is utterly void of common sense and rational thought. The amount of lunatics out there that are actually accusing the jailers of murder with a straight face is pretty alarming.

    As the white population decreases, the lynch mobs and baseless attacks seem to be increasing rapidly. It’s all about power, or at least taking down the power structure in place. And replace it with what exactly though? Looking at the utter disaster which is the rest of the world is not encouraging.

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  20. GA phillips says:

    She had an attitude plain and simple. She also knew she had an extensive record and unpaid fines in another state. Family didn’t bother to help her out of jail but sure let’s all blame law enforcement for her poor judgment. This is being spun 20 thousand ways all pointing at the police. If she secured her dream job why couldn’t she have conducted herself in a better manner and followed directions. Perhaps her family should have know about her depression, her intentionally cutting herself, the suicide attempt and paid the fee for the bondsman to get her out of jail. Seems to me she wasn’t a stable individual and someone should have got her help long before she was arrested once again.

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  21. Hector Poole says:

    It really would be interesting if we had a true media and the family asked point blank why they didn’t help with the bail? Yet they won’t and the false narrative and BGI will continue to take center stage.

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  22. kinthenorthwest says:

    Someone posted this on another forum
    Bland was under arrest the minute the Trooper stopped her vehicle – it’s called a non-custodial arrest and is backed by a SCOTUS decision.

    Secondly, a law enforcement officer may order any occupant out of a vehicle or to reenter a vehicle at any time for officer safety – another SCOTUS decision, failure to comply is a arrestable offense Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106 (1977), is a United States Supreme Court criminal law decision holding that a police officer ordering a person out of a car following a traffic stop and conducting a pat-down to check for weapons did not violate the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

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    • WCRollerSkate says:

      You’re forgetting probable cause. Cops can’t make those orders just because they feel like it. The officer failed over 14 times to communicate his probable cause after he started in on the cigarette. He was NOT acting in a lawful manner.

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      • Chip Bennett says:

        He acted completely lawfully.

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        • kinthenorthwest says:

          Thank you Chip–I was hoping to get a yea or nay from you..From what I have seen of your posts you seem to know a bit about the law.

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        • WCRollerSkate says:

          In the full context of the events of this traffic stop and the video evidence available, that will be debatable.
          On a personal level, are you really co-signing this behavior? Where a cop can order you out of your car for no discernible reason other than he is displeased with anything less than your complete submission – even if he’s not in any danger? Where he has the right to assault you if you’re afraid and don’t want to leave the safety of your car?

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          • Chip Bennett says:

            No, I don’t think the legality of the order to exit the vehicle will be debatable. Precedent case law is clear.

            As for my personal opinion of precedent case law? My opinion is irrelevant. I don’t think officers should have per se authority to demand drivers exit their vehicle. But the time and place to debate it is in court, not on the side of the road. And the manner of challenge is via legal pleadings, not via assaulting a police officer.

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            • WCRollerSkate says:

              But this is the crux of the problem. If you wind up unlawfully assaulted (some even raped) or arrested in the first place, how can you expect that you’ll get a fair day in court? This is why people fight back. Once they are IN the system, they are completely screwed. When there are so many egregious examples of abuse and such a clear conflict of interest in oversight of police misconduct, how citizens reasonably expect to be able to trust the system?

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              • Chip Bennett says:

                Sandra Bland wasn’t raped, or even assaulted. On the other hand, she did assault the police officer. The traffic stop simply wasn’t such a case of egregious abuse. And more to the point: it had exactly zero to do with Sandra Bland eventually committing suicide.

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                • WCRollerSkate says:

                  I never said Sandra was raped, but many women ARE raped by cops. You may remember Daniel Holtzclaw who made it a point to prey on poor black women whom he raped because he knew no one would believe them. There are dozens of stories like his. This is just one reason why there is much distrust of LOE among people of color.
                  Sandra WAS assaulted when the police officer threatened to yank her out of the car then proceeds to try it. Then he assaults her again in the grass. Sandra fought as well as she could for her own protection and safety from an unlawful arrest.

                  I never said this officer killed Sandra Bland directly but he set in motion the series of events that ended her life. She never should have been detained or arrested, yet she sat in a cell for 3 days. What happened INSIDE the jail is another matter.

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      • Chip Bennett says:

        Oh, and yes: a police officer can order the driver out of the car during a traffic stop, without particularized suspicion or probable cause.

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        • kinthenorthwest says:

          I remember once I was told to go sit on the curb. I made a U turn where I should not have and I knew it and admitted it. I dd as he asked and sat while made out my ticket.

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  23. Kaye says:

    I agree with this completely. I do not think Sandra was murdered. I think that weight of her life finally took its toll. Sad way to die tho. Sad way to die.

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  24. rationalak says:

    There’s a lot of comments and pardon me if someone else mentioned it but…what about the guy she called to bail her out? Has he been located and interviewed? Was he her boyfriend or just a male she had a romantic interest in? When he ignored her and did not even come to visit her or bail her out, was that what crashed her into suicide?

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  25. kinthenorthwest says:

    In the slush buck again…Seems I go there a lot it was about two of Bland’s cell mates testifying

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  26. Deadbeat says:

    I would have to say that from the video, the police officer lost control of the situation. She did have every right to question the officer however her attitude clearly contributed to the situation. A little more respect of either party would have diffused the situation.

    However I find it quite interesting that the family failed to bail her out. All that was needed was $500.00 but it appears that her priors make the case as to why her family ignored her. It also make sense why she was looking for employment out of Illinois. She needed to reside in a new state before her license expired in Illinois so she could get out of paying her fines.

    It also makes sense why she was part of the Marxist and George Soros funded “Black Lives Matters”. She is one of those Cultural Marxist Black women who cannot take responsibility for her own failing and bad decision and blames “Capitalism” and “Whites” for her problems. It is too bad that she didn’t learn, in this Marxist environment, respect and courtesy. It would have saved her life.

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  27. Brown Fez says:

    Hey y’all- it’s a simple yes sir (ma’am) no sir (ma’am)situation, be nice and I promise you the cops will be too ( In TX anyway). She killed herself and that’s too bad but it sounds like she had a lot of issues unrelated to this stop. This trooper is the professional so he could have done a better job deescalating ( he’ll probably just get a few days off)- HOWEVER, after you break the law… yes even for a simple traffic infraction, the office has the right to give you lawful orders, like get out of your car. Simple as that.

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  28. DAN WOSNITZKY says:

    you folks are missing the whole point of her history,,, SHE REFUSED TO FOLLOW THE LAWS, HAD NO RESPECT FOR THE LEGAL SYSTEM AND BY NOT PAYING THE PENALTIES FELT SHE COULD NEGLECT TO OBEY THE COURT DECISIONS AND DO HER DAILY ACTIVITIES WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES…. WELL IT APPEARS , ALL OF THAT DISOBEDIENCE CAUGHT UP WITH HER AND WHEN HE FAMILY REJECTED HER FOR HELP,,, IT WAS TOOOOO MUCH FOR HER TO TAKE….. THE OFFICERS ACTIONS DID NOT KILL HER .. SHE WAS ALREADY MESSED UP MENTALLY….GOD BLESS HER SOUL…

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  29. Tyrone Johnson says:

    Simple rules to not getting arrested:
    1.) Don’t break the law.
    2.) but if you must break the law, comply with law enforcement orders
    3.) but if you can’t comply with law enforcement orders, don’t attack the officer(s)

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