Attorney Benjamin Crump Finds Success In New Strategy – Subverting The Judicial System for Grievance Claims…

Attorney for Tamir Rice’s family, Benjamin Crump, has taken a new strategy to gain success in his grievance claims.

♦  In Sanford Florida 2012/2013 Benjamin Crump demanded prosecutor Angela Corey not use a Grand Jury.  Crump won a victory in that regard getting George Zimmerman charged with murder and getting the case to jury trial; but lost the case when his fabricated claims were exposed in front of a trial jury. George Zimmerman was found not guilty.

Parks and Crump

♦ In Ferguson, 2014, Benjamin Crump tried the same “anything to get to trial” approach by demanding prosecutor Robert McColloch again not use a grand jury. However, this time Ferguson/Saint Louis were wise to the strategy and Crump failed to pressure his demands.

Again, as in 2012/13, another fraudulent case, this time against Police Officer Darren Wilson. The prosecutor didn’t bow, used the Grand Jury, and the Grand Jury found no cause.

♦  In Cleveland, 2015, Benjamin Crump has refined his strategy. This time he doesn’t try to get the Prosecutor to comply with his demands – instead Crump asks a “Municipal Judge”, that does not usually handle such issues, to weigh in on the evidence of a police shooting of his client’s son, Tamir Rice.

In essence Crump is trying to create pressure upon the Cleveland Grand Jury itself, to get to trial.  He’s doing this by creating a narrative where a judge has already found ‘probable cause’ for the trial he demands.

The goal is always to get to trial, because implied in the trial itself is an admission of wrongdoing on behalf of the defendant. That, “getting to trial” is all Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks need to begin their civil liability extortion racket for “wrongful death” demands. Civil claims do not carry the same burden of proof for a criminal trial.

Watch the first 35 seconds of this video and you’ll see the origin of the feces:

Benjamin Crump doesn’t care about the outcome of the criminal trial, he only cares about getting charges filed which opens the door for his civil lawsuits. Heck, in Sanford 2013 he didn’t even show up to hear the jury decision, it’s irrelevant.

To avoid a repeated failure to Ferguson, Crump assembles a team of professionally aggrieved black constituents/activists:

[…]  On June 9, 2015, Dr. Jawanza Colvin, Mr. Bakari Kiwana, Mr. Edward Little, Jr., Ms. Julia Shearson, Ms. Rachelle Smith, Dr. R.A. Vernon, Dr. Rhonda Williams and Mr. Joseph Worthy, jointly and severally, filed with the Cleveland Municipal Court affidavits accusing Cleveland Police Patrol Officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback with crimes arising from the shooting death of 12 year-old Tamir Rice on November 22, 2014, within the City of Cleveland. (link)

Crump’s Cleveland strategy appears to have paid off today:

cleveland 1CLEVELAND — Cleveland Municipal Court Judge Ronald Adrine has released his findings in the review of the shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice by Cleveland Police Officers Frank Garmback, 46, and Timothy Loehmann, 26.

He found probable cause in the accusations of murder, involuntary manslaughter, reckless homicide, negligent homicide and dereliction of duty for Loehmann.

He found probable cause for negligent homicide and dereliction of duty for Garmback.  What does this mean?

It means that charges have NOT been filed and that these are merely findings by a judge of the accusations made against the two officers. It will now be up to the prosecutor — either the county or the city prosecutor — to assess his findings. (read more)

Mission Accomplished !! Pressure applied, and jury pool contaminated.

“All we want is an arrest, we only want an arrest; nothing more and nothing less”.

Parks and Crump

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106 Responses to Attorney Benjamin Crump Finds Success In New Strategy – Subverting The Judicial System for Grievance Claims…

    • BobNoxious says:

      Here is how this happened; Ohio has an obscure, almost forgotten about statute that provides, part:

      (D) A private citizen having knowledge of the facts who seeks to cause an arrest or prosecution under this section may file an affidavit charging the offense committed with a reviewing official for the purpose of review to determine if a complaint should be filed by the prosecuting attorney or attorney charged by law with the prosecution of offenses in the court or before the magistrate

      http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2935.09

      Crump had a bunch of ministers and activists get together and file an affidavit as witnesses based on what they saw in the CCTV video. The judge apparently agreed with them and now forwards his recommendation to a prosecutor. It’s unclear what happens of the prosecutor doesn’t agree w/ the judge.

      I’ve also read that Ohio already requires ALL officer involved shootings to go to a GJ, so that calls into question the real necessity of this- and makes it look even more like a ploy to taint the jury pool.

      Given that this statute hasn’t been used in who knows how long, I’d imagine the officer will appeal and I believe this raises a very important separation of powers issues- the judge is essentially performing powers reserved for the executive branch- enforcing law/bringing charges.

      However, as has been mentioned, regardless of what happens on appeal, you cannot un-ring that bell.

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      • boutis says:

        He is a traffic judge type. Mickey mouse misdemeanors, parking tickets, stuff like that it appears. This is what they prey on. Ignorance of the legal system and the idiot media willing to print nonsense. This is not a judge with jurisdiction and the old law says information from people “with knowledge” and that means witnesses. A bunch of preachers who were not there do not have “knowledge”. More misinformation and misdirection. And this judge wrote a letter not a legal finding or order. Appealing to the dumb and ignorant is their stock and trade. Shameful.

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        • BobNoxious says:

          When I read about this on Tuesday when they filed the affidavit my first thought was that they could not authenticate the video (pursuant to typical rules of evidence), so they’d be unable to rely on the video as the basis for their claims. Evidentially the judge didn’t have a problem with it.

          I agree that this is a BS show meant to taint to the jury pool (and the grand jury) but pursuant to the statue, a municipal judge has the authority to make such a recommendation to the prosecutor.

          One final point- being a municipal judge does not automatically mean you are some ignorant peon only capable of handling traffic tickets. I understand the frustration w/ this, but I’d be careful with the broad brush generalizations. It doesn’t help the argument.

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          • coeurdaleneman says:

            ?? The result itself is indicative of this judge’s capability and leanings. Not sure we need the pontification, guy.

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        • partyzantski says:

          This is truly sensational… so, if one were to appear in a digitally altered video, a recommendation by a “judge” could put one in the dock? Will “administrative judges”, like those found at the Socialist Security Agency be able to pull this trick? What about those “administrative judges” who never passed a bar exam? They are out there and in places you’d not expect 😦

          So, is a Federal “administrative judge” (who never passed a bar exam, works for a Federal Agency/Administration, NEVER passed a bar exam) a real judge in this sense? Are they firewalled to the specific duties of the “court” they lord over, or are they “at large”?

          The one I know of is definitely “A large”, and getting larger.

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          • BobNoxious says:

            The state statue defines reviewing official as:

            (A) As used in this section, “reviewing official” means a judge of a court of record, the prosecuting attorney or attorney charged by law with the prosecution of offenses in a court or before a magistrate, or a magistrate

            SS and FAA admin judges are federal employees and this is a state statue, so they would not be allowed to do this. I don’t know how Ohio courts are set up, but my educated guess (based on the statute) is that this power is limited to judges that handle state or municipal criminal dockets.

            The issue about a falsely edited video should be a real concern. That’s why I raised the issue of these witnesses not having the ability to authenticate the video.

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      • nivico says:

        Bob…

        Doesn’t this obscure antiquated law conflict with current laws against ex parte communications?

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        • BobNoxious says:

          I don’t understand your question?

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        • BobNoxious says:

          Are you asking of there was someone improper about meeting with this judge outside the presence of the officer/defendant?

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          • BobNoxious says:

            something not someone.

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          • nivico says:

            Nevermind… found this:

            Rule 2.9: Ex Parte Communications
            (A) A judge shall not initiate, permit, or consider ex parte communications, or consider other communications made to the judge outside the presence of the parties or their lawyers, concerning a pending* or impending matter,* except as follows:
            […]
            (5) A judge may initiate, permit, or consider any ex parte communication when expressly authorized by law* to do so.

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            • nivico says:

              There’s also this:

              RULE 3.3 CANDOR TOWARD THE TRIBUNAL

              (d) In an ex parte proceeding, a lawyer shall inform the tribunal of all material facts known to the lawyer that will enable the tribunal to make an informed decision, whether or not the facts are adverse.

              https://www.law.cornell.edu/ethics/aba/current/ABA_CODE.HTM

              If I understand the situation correctly, the municipal court judge was only shown roughly four minutes of the CCTV footage… beginning 8 seconds before the shooting. The portion of the footage showing Rice pointing the gun at kids on the elementary school playground was edited out.

              The entire exigency of the situation was lost…

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      • doodahdaze says:

        See: Doo Dah, circa Zimmerman…..See: victims rights statutes. See how they run.

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      • Terry in GA says:

        The investigation found no cause for charges, and none were filed by prosecutor. Crump didn’t like that as (yet another) outcome, so he found somebody to proclaim that “he finds” there is probable cause to make the charges…. But, his comments are non-binding and amount to nothing. The prosecutor, in his sole discretion, is the one who either takes the case to the grand jury which does or does not indict.

        It sounds to me like the prosecutor has nothing to take to grand jury with expectation of indictment, but I don’t know if prosecutor must present to grand jury or if he can determine justified and no charges will proceed.

        IMO, crumpets are having nightmares of sundances in their heads. No grand jury I can imagine would watch that video of a kid waving a gun with the orange tip either removed or covered with black paint and true bill against police officers. Also the charade of the mother, sister and neighbors wailing about “them shootin all our little black boys” for dramatic effect.

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    • partyzantski says:

      What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
      America, take note.
      If this becomes SOP, then we are truly in uncharted territory.

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    • ytz4mee says:

      VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

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  1. joanfoster says:

    When you look at the big picture of the cases of attorneys losing their license and being disbarred, it begs the question “Where in the hell are the bar associations” in the communities where Crump is allowed to practice. Does he have a license to practice in the Cleveland jurisdiction? If not, who is his affiliate and what is his/her/their record and reputation. This is Sharptongue on steroids. Why isn’t the Justice Dept. investigating this – oops, did I just ask a stupid question?

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    • boutis says:

      Yes. If a Republican gets elected in 2016 the bar committees can start up again without the DOJ threatening them.

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    • BobNoxious says:

      Crump joins up w/ local counsel and files a pro hac vice motion w/ the Ohio Sup Ct. & pays a fee and is the given a pro hac vice certificate that allows him to appear before Ohio courts- although the local counsel is usually the one who actually appears. Tony Gray was the local counsel he used in MO for Mike Brown- same sort of process.

      As for why he hasn’t been disbarred in FL,; I don’t know but I think that’s been covered here before. He apparently has friends in the right places and the power to raise heck if anyone tries to go after him. Something tells me that will catch up with him one day; it always does. Might not be for another 20 years but it will happen.

      Once that door opens, I’d imagine they’ll find all types of unethical and illegal practices.

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      • Attorney says:

        I am a member of the Florida Bar. Crump and his firm absolutely own the Florida Bar, in the sense that they sponsor myriad events, legal aid campaigns, etc. They will NEVER be disciplined. Ever. I mean, aliens will visit the planet before this happens.

        You are right though. 95% of the lawyers in Florida would have been disciplined for the things this guy has done.

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  2. belle says:

    Crump is snake in the grass.

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  3. czarowniczy says:

    Yeah well Crump may well find that big city judges do not like slimy lawyers slithering through back doors to intrude upon their judicial turf. Crump may make this hail Mary attempt but just as a ‘not guilty’ in OJ’s criminal trial didn’t stop him from being taken to the cleaners on civil trail there’s no guarantee that even starting a civil trail would be a finding of probable cause for a criminal matter.
    I’m looking for the civil judge to see exactly what’s going in and delay any civil proceedings until a criminal finding’s been made. The judge will know what’s going on, that’s why s/he’s judge and Crumps a lawyer still trying to win a motion. Judges do not like being used as tools for someone else’s agenda, some get really upset at the practice. Then again this may just be an attempt by Crump to keep himself in the limelight, free advertising and all that, though one would think that a winning strategy every now and then might help.

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    • jackphatz says:

      Judge Ronald B. Adrine looks to be the right “man” for this job.

      http://clevelandmunicipalcourt.org/judicial-services/meet-the-judges/judge-ronald-b-adrine

      So now that things are winding down in McKinney, time to more on over to Cleveland.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        McKinney is far from winding down…. actually the opposite actually.

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        • yankeeintx says:

          Sharpton is here and marches tomorrow! They aren’t happy with the cop’s resignation, and are demanding he be charged. The brand new police chief caved, probably in an attempt to save his city.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Yeah, Cleveland’s opened itself up to a civil suit, as long as we’re on the civil suit subject. There are times when I’m not sure just what’s passing through civil servant minds when they’re making hiring decisions.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      can someone even bring a civil suit that is based on the events of a criminal proceeding before the criminal proceeding has even begun?

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      • stella says:

        They did that in Florida with Zimmerman, I think. They sued the HOA, who settled out of court before the trial even started, as I recall.

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        • Ziiggii says:

          correct, but would the same apply to say a person (civil servant) that is currently in criminal litigation. There is a bit of a difference correct? Or am I off base?

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          • stella says:

            I don’t know. The civil suit would be against the police department, right? I can’t imagine they would sue a police officer; he doesn’t have any money or insurance to pay a judgement.

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      • BobNoxious says:

        Yes; the basis of the civil suit is the acts of the defendant. The criminal proceeding is essentially irrelevant to the civil proceeding.

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        • Ziiggii says:

          ok, I guess the best example would be OJ correct? But in that case the civil suit came after the criminal trial which is why I asked the question.

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          • BobNoxious says:

            People usually wait simply b/c the criminal trial (and the work required to prepare for it) takes precedence over the civil trial b/c of speedy trial requirements, etc. So it’s more of a practical consideration of the defendants, lawyers, witnesses, etc., schedules than anything else. If that makes sense…

            The outcome of a criminal trial generally has no impact on a civil trial- unless there is some type of rule that a criminal acquittal bars civil claims, but that’s very rare.

            Does that make sense?

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      • czarowniczy says:

        All a civil suit says is that an injury’s been done – the injury doesn’t have to be criminal, it can just be negligence. Crump’s suit could just say that his client/client’s NOK were injured, doesn’t have to prove the injury was of a criminal nature BUT just might try to bamboozle the grand jury by saying they found an injury was done and it was most likely criminal.
        Some guy backing out of a parking spot scrapes your car because he misjudged the required radius of the turn. Is it criminal? No. Can you sue for damages? Yes. I don’t see a judge, unless s/he has an agenda, buying into this ploy – it’s almost an embarrassment.

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      • skeptiktank says:

        They did in this case in Charlotte which will go to trial next month. The city has already paid. http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/local/2015/06/11/documents-related-to-kerrick-civil-suit-requested/71088342/

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        • Ziiggii says:

          Thanks! I’m in Charlotte and didn’t even remember that did do this in the Kerrick case. That civil suit WAS against CMPD not the officer IIRC.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I don’t believe that Crump is interested in a civil suit. He doesn’t want to go into court. It is the THREAT of a civil suit that he works with.

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        • All this keep him the big man on campus for tainting jury pools, as well…. Maybe he is also looking for a Federal slot down the road…

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        • Terry in GA says:

          That one was probably because the officer made such a grievous mistake that was not justifiable in the course of his duties. The initial investigation found the “police officer” who was a police employee acted recklessly, thereby justifying a civil case/settlement with the department where he was employed. I’m no constitutional law professor (actually IANAL) but I think that is how SC case went down. It was a sad, terrible and avoidable mistake that killed a totally innocent young man. Actually that is the one real case I’ve seen of a true injustice to an innocent person, and those are the times when justice should come promptly.

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    • franker01 says:

      Evidently there are BGI Judges in many cities as sleazy as Crump.
      See Tracie Hunter in Cincinnati.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I believe they smell a changing of the Old Guard and they’re vying for the positions as the Ancients crumble into history

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  4. BobNoxious says:

    BTW- if people riot in Cleveland or anywhere in Ohio, I hope this same citizens arrest statute is used to the fullest extent possible to bring charges against outside agitators, arsonists, etc. allowing this to stand could really open a Pandora’s Box.

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    • SlavicVillageGirl says:

      I live a stone’s throw and what I’ve seen so far has left me feeling pretty good about my hometown. They tried to riot a few weeks ago and the police just scooped ’em up. No stand down, no taking c**p. In this case I pray for more of the same.

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    • partyzantski says:

      BobNoxious,
      Boy Howdy, would it ever!

      Any Treepers in Cleveland, sharpen your video skills now and gird your loins. I predict that Cleveland will be a ever-warming crock pot of craziness up to and through the GOP Convention there.

      Bringing the same process to bear against the special snowflakes would expose the whole, rigged game.

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      • SlavicVillageGirl says:

        I’m not the get out there type. Cleveland is a different kind of city. A Downtown with high rent and nice amenities and small neighborhoods surrounding it. Some good -some,not so much. There isn’t really a good place to loot and riot. I heard Sharpton is going to stop the RNC. We got it covered.

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  5. doodahdaze says:

    Oh Good Grief. How long have I kept putting this out. Has everything I ever say fallen upon deaf ears? They are trying to corrupt criminal Justice with Social Justice.
    i am about to give it up. Nobody pays any attention.

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  6. nivico says:

    “Anyone got a good link to the backstory on how this ended with a judge instead of GJ? I’m lost”

    Does this answer your question…

    https://clevelandmunicipalcourt.org/images/cmc-pio-images/jdg29773.jpg?sfvrsn=2

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  7. manickernel says:

    While I am no fan of Crump, it is ultimately the DA in Cleveland that bears responsibility here. I do feel there is adequate cause to charge the cop for rolling up and firing as quickly as he did. The judicial system has been dragging it’s feet hoping this would go away.I do not see it as murder though.

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  8. doodahdaze says:

    The Monsters on Maple Street.

    ?The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street? is a story about the paranoia of regular people. When the power and phone lines stop working on Maple Street, the residents become hostile. One boy puts an idea into their heads: that aliens impersonating humans have done it. This single thought catalysts and soon all of the neighbors are ready to hurt each other for answers. ?The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street? is a good play to see for all ages.
    The play is so relatable to viewers because the characters are the kind of people everyone knows. Steve Brand is the sensible character. He, alone, is the person who keeps level-headed throughout the entire ordeal. He addresses each development rationally and tries to keep everyone together. Charlie starts out as a friendly neighbor, but soon turns into the leader of the witch hunt. He even kills someone in his pursuit to find a scapegoat. He and the rest of the people on Maple Street become dangerously defensive once they?re willing to hurt another human being.
    The play teaches are very important lesson on being too cautious. When faced with a small problem like a power outage, the residents of a small town turn on each other. It shows how vulnerable and paranoid humans can be. At the end of the play, the narrator says that this is something that could happen among humans anywhere, it is not just confined to the ?Twilight Zone?. This is a departure from most other episodes, which end, ?only in the Twilight Zone?. This show, which broadcasted during the Cold War, is meant to demonstrate horrible things that could come from people being too paranoid and distrustful.
    This is a lesson which is still relevant today. Though the acting and dialogue seem to appeal to an older audience, young viewers can still enjoy and learn from this play. Prejudices, suspicion, and thoughtlessness are as prevalent as ever. For any problem, humans will look for a scapegoat. The War on Terror seems to bring similar feelings as those around during the Cold War. The lesson of trusting other people is as relevant now as it was in 1960, when the show originally aired.
    The play taught a valuable lesson for viewers of all ages. Every character in the play seems familiar to the viewers. The lesson of being paranoid and trying to find a scapegoat was perfect for the Cold War atmosphere of the 1960?s. It?s good for society today, which has its own fear of terrorism. And the lesson will undoubtedly be as effective 40 years from now. ?The Monster Are Due On Maple Street? is a wonderful play to see anytime for all ages.

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  9. Nation says:

    Judge Adrine’s order: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/11/tamir-rice-police-officer-murder-charge?CMP=share_btn_tw

    The Activists’ Affidavits: https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2095147/tamir-rice-filing.pdf

    From the affidavits, we can discern that they are represented by Michael L. Nelson Sr. of Cleveland, Ohio.

    http://mln-associates.com/

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    • BobNoxious says:

      Right of the bat he throws the traditional legal meaning of “knowledge of the facts” out the window and essentially substitutes it w/ “knowledge of a video”. I don’t see this standing on appeal- but as I mentioned above, that’s probably irrelevant as now the GJ is tainted.

      Notice how he also focuses on the failure to render medical attention immediately after the shooting- something that is entirely irrelevant to the criminal charges.

      This is a true social justice ruling as opposed to a ruling based on facts and law.

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      • Nation says:

        Social justice ruling indeed. I don’t even think the judge had to review the activist affidavits. He could have forwarded it to the prosecutor. Very curious indeed.

        Because citizens initiated the proceedings, it raises questions about their civil liability. Prosecutors generally are absolutely immune to civil liability, with some limited exceptions. Regular people, however, can be found liable for malicious prosecution, abuse of process, defamation, etc. I hope the activists covered their bases before submitting their affidavits.

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      • nivico says:

        “Right of the bat he throws the traditional legal meaning of “knowledge of the facts” out the window and essentially substitutes it w/ “I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night”.”

        Fixed it for ya 😉

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Social Justice again. Funny how it always comes up. Until people realize they are trying to blend it in to Criminal Justice and the rules…well that is for another day….a bad day. Social Justice is the enemy of everything american.

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  10. Bob says:

    Not “begs the question”, it raises the question

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  11. Nation says:

    I doubt the activists submitted this part of the surveillance video to the judge:

    After all, the activists made a point in their “preamble” to cite authority that the accused do not have the right to present exculpatory evidence to the grand jury.

    However, the “preamble” does not mention the fact that “the prosecutor in a criminal case shall not pursue or prosecute a charge that the prosecutor knows is not supported by probable cause.” Ohio Rules of Professional Conduct, Rule 3.8.

    The video shows Rice pointing his BB gun at bystanders. Someone calls 911 about Rice. The police arrive and Rice reaches for his gun. The police shoot Rice in self-defense. How is the shooting not justified? The prosecutor cannot bring charges under these facts. Come on!

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    • BobNoxious says:

      A couple points:

      The 911 operator should’ve relayed the callers message that they thought he might only have a BB gun- could’ve made a big difference in how the officers approached the situation.

      The driver of the car put his partner in a TERRIBLE position by driving up on the scene like that.

      However, given the realities of the world we live in- young kid active shooters- it’s somewhat understandable why the police responded in the way they did. He also walked up to the car, still holding the gun.

      This is a difficult case; honestly, I see issues w/ both the kid’s and the officers’ actions. It’s a shame that the kid died, but that doesn’t automatically mean a crime was committed by the officers. That’s what these “activists” have a hard time understanding.

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      • Nation says:

        I agree that the officers’ actions were not picture perfect. You solve that by private discipline and training. And if they have a history of misconduct, you put them on the Brady List. Criminal charges should only be issued when nothing justifies the officer’s actions. But we haven’t seen that in most of these BGI cases.

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      • partyzantski says:

        BobNoxious,
        Excellent points… rolling up that close to a person who is armed is rather hair-raising.
        I think the bottom line is, “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”. Pointing anything weapon-like at a police officer is going to seriously diminish chances of peaceful outcomes.

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    • partyzantski says:

      BB guns are not child’s toys.
      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bb-guns-mom-was-right/

      It is not the gun, it is the person behind the trigger that does the deed. A bb gun, just like a full-on Colt 1911 will do nothing to anyone without the act of the shooter. The rules of firearm safety apply to everyone, even hood rats. It is not reasonable to ask a police officer to place his life on the line while he ascertains if the item in the hand of a street lunatic is an actual full on firearm or a mere “BB gun”. Ask any number of widows of cops, or the children left behind while they exercised that extra measure of caution… “no, wait, this street lunatic just has a high fidelity replica, it’s ok!”.

      How many genetic donors to special snowflakes are going to incite chaos and social disorder by arming the children with anything that even looks like a firearm to generate civil & criminal charges against the Police? The 2nd and 3rd order effects of this are going to be horrendous.

      As a note of full disclosure, my first air rifle was given to me by my father at age 9. It was a Crossman 766. It did quite the number on local vermin as I learned the fundamentals of BRASS-F before I knew what they were. In later life, those fundamentals learned in my yard would scale up to the 500 yard line quite well.

      http://www.acronymfinder.com/Breathe,-Relax,-Aim,-Stop,-Squeeze,-Follow-Through-%28Marine-marksmanship-mnemonic%29-%28BRASSF%29.html

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  12. SlavicVillageGirl says:

    When this first happened I saw a more cleaned up video that clearly showed him pulling the gun from his waistband aiming it towards Officer Loemann. Why I can”t find it, I can’t say. Perhaps he was quick on the draw, but, I think the officer followed his training [n this case.

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  13. doodahdaze says:

    Social Justice. The name, of the game.

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  14. auscitizenmom says:

    And, for those not familiar with Crump, here are some Crumpisms.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Uppity.

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    • franker01 says:

      So,evidently, the ability to master in any way the English Language is not a prerequisite to being a Big Dumb BGI Lawyer?

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      • flaladybug says:

        Although Crump certainly portrays someone who is ” dumb as a bag of hammers”, he utilizes that “Aw Shucks, I’m just a dumb country boy from the South” facade to his advantage. It usually throws others off their guard/game and Crump knows this….WELL !!!

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        • jeanmarc8 says:

          IANAL
          Many comments on Mr. Crump and his speaking ability in the blog, as well as previous blogs related to Michael Brown and Travon Martin. Yet he bubbles to the front for this kind of case. Perhaps his speech difficulties make him more sympathetic to the “victims” and their family.

          I think the judge’s decision allows for filing the tort claim. This case was probably always going to be settled out of court, and I don’t think there will be any criminal action.

          I was actually hoping that the municipality would decide to take this all the way to court. That could take several years, and require some big dollar costs by the lawyers for the family for depositions and such. That also puts somebody on the stand to answer why this 12 year old had a gun and why the safety markings were removed. (? Contributory negligence). I would try to have as many deputations in November through February, and first thing on Mondays if at all possible. Give Mr. Crump’s Florida blood lots of exposure to the “mild” Ohio winters, and let him miss some weekends in Tallahassee.
          I don’t know how deep their pockets are, and there is no guarantee that any costs will be recouped.

          I think Mr. Crump prefers to go for the quick cash and avoid the risk for no financial settlement at all.

          Again IANAL

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  15. doodahdaze says:

    How he gets away with it is amazing to me.

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  16. doodahdaze says:

    He has to be funded by ” other ” means. I want to see the books.

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  17. franker01 says:

    Really speaks well for the amount of opportunity in this country when a complete Moron like Crump who probably couldn’t pronounce his own name correctly if you spotted him the C and the R and the U can make millions of dollars by pimping absolutely ridiculous legal claims of Racism!

    Oh, to be back in the days before the wheels fell off this country!

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  18. doodahdaze says:

    Let us look at the end result of applied Social Justice. Fill me in.
    Black criminals are not criminals?
    OK
    Then what?

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  19. flaladybug says:

    I’m beginning to believe that Crump may not be as sophisticated as most lawyers, he uses this “Aw Shucks” mentality to his advantage. IMHO, he has NEVER given a rats behind about the families he represents, nor does he care about “Justice”. His ONE and ONLY goal is $$$$….it’s all about the BENJAMINS!! He doesn’t want a trial…Criminal or Civil. His playbook works better without one. All he needs to succeed in getting his rather large commission is to get enough of “his version” of the story in the press, and let the frenzy begin. That in itself is enough to make his target want to settle in the quickest, most private way possible just to make the attention and threats go away. It’s a SHAKEDOWN…..EXTORTION…..only Crump-a-Dump and his minions have found a way to make it legal. They get their payoff LONG before anything criminal or civil ever sees a courtroom. IT’S JUST HOW THEY ROLL 😦

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  20. bitterlyclinging says:

    Barack Obama and Eric Holder have told their constituency, by word and action, that they do not have to obey the country’s laws because America is a racist country, therefore its laws are racist.
    “A country divided against itself cannot long stand” and that is precisely Barack Obama’s goal.

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  21. nivico says:

    Interesting how it has gone unmentioned by the media, the family, and the attorneys that Rice was on an elementary school playground with a gun…

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  22. archer52 says:

    Again, I do not understand the minds of the people who are unraveling our society. Do they think they are immune to what will happen? Do they think they can tip toe around the mayhem? That black gang bangers who are robbing them or carjacking them are going to give a s**t they are “down with the cause”?

    Just dumb. Unless they have a rocket ship powered by tea and skittles, they are going to be as screwed as we are. The difference is when the zombies come for them, I will not protect them. I will instead push them out the door and lock it behind them!

    Lawyers… the bane of humanity.

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  23. Lulu says:

    About that kid’s “toy gun”:

    They are, in fact, so realistic that police and commando units train with them. They are so realistic that millions of private gun owners have bought them for their own training. In fact, they are so realistic they are by law required to wear orange non-lethal rings at muzzle to proclaim their status as non-guns to onlookers. They are so realistic that a whole global culture has grown up around them, offering ancillary equipment, uniforms, and battle-games up to platoon strength. It’s a way for mostly young men to get their war on without the inconvenience of joining the Marine Corps.

    In this case, as Hunter notes, the gun was an exact reproduction of the classic M1911 A1 semi-automatic pistol (known to shooters as “God’s gun”), which was the standard weapon issued to members of the United States military for decades. This was just such a gun — but with one crucial difference:

    Of course, no one in media knows any of this, because nobody in media covers or pays attention to such things. They are too busy worrying about Marco Rubio’s traffic record. And it was just such a gun that Tamir Rice was waving, though only a tiny fraction of the coverage has admitted as much, and, furthermore, the orange non-lethal ring had been covered up with black tape.

    In other words, it looked exactly like the real thing.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/06/12/what-really-happened-in-the-tamir-rice-shooting/

    And the police had how long to determine what the kid was brandishing?

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  24. nivico says:

    Treepers get your coffee pots brewing…

    The prosecutor just released the Tamir Rice investigation documents online!

    http://prosecutor.cuyahogacounty.us/en-us/Investigation-Into-Death-of-Tamir-Rice.aspx

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