Baltimore PD Email Surfaces Showing Marilyn Mosby Asked Police To Target Exact Location Where Freddie Gray Was Apprehended…

An email has surfaced as part of a defense motion to recuse Baltimore State Attorney Marilyn Mosby.  The email is from Mosby’s office in the weeks just prior to the arrest of Freddie Gray.

freddie gray while cell phone on top of knifeIn the March email Mosby is specifically asking the Baltimore police to target the exact intersection where Freddie Gray was apprehended –  and work on eliminating increased drug activity.  (Via Baltimore Sun)

[…]  “It must be understood that Mrs. Mosby was directing these officers to one of the highest crime intersections in Baltimore City and asking them to make arrests, conduct surveillance, and stop crime,” the defense attorneys wrote. “Now, the State is apparently making the unimaginable argument that the police officers are not allowed to use handcuffs to protect their safety and prevent flight in an investigatory detention where the suspect fled in a high crime area and actually had a weapon on him.”  (link)

The email was sent from Joshua Rosenblatt, division chief of Mosby’s Crime Strategies Unit to Baltimore Police Major Osborne Robinson.

The most damning part of the communication is from Major Osborne Robinson to his police officers informing them of the State Attorney expectation.

brian rice mugshot[…]  On March 20, Robinson forwarded Rosenblatt’s email to several Western District officers, including Lt. Brian W. Rice. He was one of the three officers who arrested Gray and one of the six later charged in Gray’s arrest and death.

Robinson told Rice and the other officers to begin a “daily narcotics initiative” focused on North Avenue and Mount Street, according to the email, and said he would be collecting “daily measurables” from them on their progress.

“This is effective immediately,” Robinson wrote, noting that the officers should use cameras, informants and other covert policing tactics to get the job done. (read more)

Two specific points:

♦  #1) If Marilyn Mosby’s gag order had been successful, we would never have known about this.  We would never have known about her office instructing the police to target the exact area where she now says they had no reason to target.  Is that part of the reasoning for the attempt at the gag order?

♦  #2)  What this really reveals is that Marilyn Mosby herself was the one who asked the police to aggressively target the area where Freddie Gray had set up his street Rx business.  In essence, the officers she now accuses of being too aggressive, were aggressive specifically because Mosby asked them to be.

As time progresses it sure is becoming more and more obvious why the Baltimore Police department are taking exception to this entire railroading – it’s increasingly understandable why they are now taking a hands off approach to proactive policing.

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268 Responses to Baltimore PD Email Surfaces Showing Marilyn Mosby Asked Police To Target Exact Location Where Freddie Gray Was Apprehended…

  1. libby says:

    Cuz #black LIES matter

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  2. non agenda says:

    Two specific points of my own::

    “♦ #1) If Marilyn Mosby’s gag order had been successful, we would never have known about this.”

    Almost certainly incorrect. A gag order does not make motions (or any document) filed with the court “sealed” and closed to public examination. It only prohibits talking to the public/media.
    This is contained in a filed motion. If reporters need conversations with lawyers to “know about” things like this, they are not doing their job. I am not arguing a gag order was justified, or would be insignificant; but let’s be accurate.

    “♦ #2) What this really reveals is that Marilyn Mosby herself was the one who asked . . . . ”

    No it doesn’t. It’s an Office, an Agency, and, yes, a Bureau. Unless you know for a fact that this communication was specifically cleared by her, it’s the act of a subordinate. I’m not arguing to get her off the hook, far from it. The point is, what is she actually guilty of? What is the charge that’s accurate and can be made be made to stick?
    A: She is a not a functioning, competent head of the prosecutor’s office. She is an opportunist / celebrity-wannabee who hasn’t the first clue what her subordinates are doing. Or what they should be doing. Is the author if that email going to be reprimanded or fired? ?? WTF?

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    • Donald Joy says:

      WMAL in Washington reports that Mosby’s name was on the email sent by her subordinate.

      MOSBY IS A WITNESS in the case and must be recused.

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      • oldiadguy says:

        Yep!! 🙂

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        • boutis says:

          And her “investigators”, and her prosecutors, and her husband who hangs around in her office telling people what to do. The entire office must be recused because she controls it. And by what statutory authority does she get to tell the police department how and where to do their jobs?

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          • John Galt says:

            “And by what statutory authority does she get to tell the police department how and where to do their jobs?”

            Don’t forget the medical examiner: accident to homicide

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        • punkinseed says:

          This quite possibly OPENS Mosby to being subpoenaed as a witness for the Defense doesn’t it? Imagine THAT happening…. putting her on the stand. Think of the questioning and, since it’s becoming more and more common for witnesses to lawyer up, would she be representing herself: “Omnis qui repraesentat habet ipse stultus est, ut a client.”
          Or, would she hire her best friend and mentor… Murphy isn’t it? Conflict of Interest Deluxe!
          Why not just go full on Conflict of Interest in all of its tentacles. This whole “show” is becoming a mockery of our justice system, so how about a great satire production to expose her and her ilk.
          On another note, has anyone been able to show as much documentation in emails or other communications showing whether or not the cops were all fully aware and informed about the safety belt directives on prisoners? I’d like to know if she put out as much effort to inform the cops on this as she did on the “measureables” enforcement directives.

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      • Yeah, but was this just email stationery with her name at the head of it, but the email over the signature of a subordinate? Of course, when anything happens relating to a govt office, the media usually report it with the name of the head of the office, as in “the Obama administration” or “Mosby’s office”…

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    • bertdilbert says:

      “State’s Attorney Mosby asked me to look into community concerns regarding drug dealing in the area of North Ave and Mount St,” Joshua Rosenblatt, division chief of Mosby’s Crime Strategies Unit, wrote in a March 17 email to a Western District police commander.”

      We can argue that Joshua was lying when he said that and just made that up to imply that he had Mosby’s backing so people would listen to him and do his personal agenda around town. Or we can argue that it is her husband Nick’s district and Nick bypassed his wife and asked an underling to clean up his district. Or something…

      The defense is arguing that since Mosby ordered the action (whatever it takes) in the specific location, that she could be brought as a witness as to why the officers were at that location doing what they were doing.

      The mockery of it all is that Mosby instructed the officers to be aggressive in getting drug dealers off the streets and then attacks them (switchblade issue) in the course of doing as they were instructed to do.

      Mosby’s father was a cop. She needs to seek help over her cop hate issues.

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      • MouseTheLuckyDog says:

        IIRC her father was a cop who got kicked off the BPD.

        He was accused of being part of some sort of corruption with his partners. SOme of the partners got convicted, he was exonerated but fired.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          Yeah aware of that. She grew up at her grandparents. I am just wondering if somehow she hates her dad for whatever reason. She cites all these family connections to cops as somehow making her qualified to run for office. Then she turns around and screws the cops. Words cannot describe….

          If hangings were public and she qualified, I might fork up plane fare and buy an event ticket.

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          • SWOhio says:

            I’d call it ‘black hate’ and it permeates every aspect of most black liberals’ lives. They hate not only non-blacks, but also themselves. It eats them up and the result is playing out on the national stage daily.

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          • dginga says:

            If she grew up at her grandparents’ is it because her mother was not married to her father? Did she even have a relationship with her father?

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            • punkinseed says:

              Possibly. Her aunt sure doesn’t think much of her. I wouldn’t like my niece much either if she tried to ride my son’s coffin into office like she did. She lied about her cousin’s shooting death just to get sympathy votes when the truth would have served her much better.

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      • Kabuki says:

        As you say.

        There is further the requirement (threat) from higher ups of “daily measurables” for officers covering the area:

        “Robinson told Rice and the other officers to begin a “daily narcotics initiative” focused on North Avenue and Mount Street, according to the email, and said he would be collecting “daily measurables” from them on their progress.”

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        • dginga says:

          Hmmm, sounds very much like some cops in NYC who were directed by the Police Chief that the MAYOR wanted to crack down on bozos selling individual cigarettes on the streets of NYC, thereby avoiding the ciggie taxes (although wouldn’t the seller have paid the tax when he bought the carton???) Then when the cops DO what they were told to do, they get crucified.

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          • bertdilbert says:

            Every carton of cigarettes are supposed to leave the distributor with a tax stamp. That even includes cigarettes that are sent to an Indian reservation as a tax free tribal allotment. The problem is that smokes are hitting the streets with no tax stamp whatsoever and there is a huge profit to be made on the difference.

            Picking up empty cigarette packs on the street found some areas as high as 60% of empty packs had no tax stamp. In the case of Garner, he had been busted before with no tax stamp.

            One could say Garner was just selling singles but at the same time, he could be using single sales to later work on bigger sales once he has reasonable confidence that the person he is selling to is a repeat non undercover cop. He was not in the business of selling legal product, there is no money in it.

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        • The Fighting Man says:

          Quotas are expressly forbidden by law, because there is no way to ensure that so many X crimes are committed every day at Y location. If officers have to invent arrests to meet quotas, then they are violating someone’s 4th Amendment Constitutional rights AND engaging in false arrests. Wow. This just gets better and better!

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        • partyzantski says:

          Daily Measurables = Quota system

          Is it conceivable that the enforcement on that intersection drove someone’s business rival out? Would “enforcement” be ordered to stop if/when a suitable business arrangement was made? Just hypotheticalizing here.

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          • punkinseed says:

            It may be useful to check the building permit applications with the 7th District map. This may not be all about cleaning up the hood, but also preparing the way for Nick Mosby to keep the property owners and developers of his district happy.

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      • punkinseed says:

        This quite possibly OPENS Mosby to being subpoenaed as a witness for the Defense doesn’t it? Imagine THAT happening…. putting her on the stand. Think of the questioning and, since it’s becoming more and more common for witnesses to lawyer up, would she be representing herself: “Omnis qui repraesentat habet ipse stultus est, ut a client.”

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    • SWOhio says:

      No matter how you try to excuse it, those are HER chickens and they have come home to roost.

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    • TRONGOD2000 says:

      I’m retired military and after decades of having it drilled in my head I am a firm believer in the chain of command. If the chain doesn’t mean anything then why have it? Right? So, regardless of whether Mosley herself sent the email, had it sent or was aware of it this fact remains; An email left the office she is in charge of. The office she is responsible for. That email then went to an official in a totally separate department of the City of Baltimore. BUT, it didn’t go to that department’s head. It went to someone who is three steps down from the department head who, like it or not, is RESPONSIBLE for those under him. Picture our military doing this. Do you think things would run smoothly in the Navy, for instance if any one of 500 congressmen could send an order to any ships captain telling him to sail here or there? Never mind that there are levels of command above the ships captain. As if to say, Admirals don’t need to know what 500 congressmen are telling the ships to do. This is so wrong there are actually laws on the books to prevent it. When the Police major got an order from another department he should have immediately ignored it and sent it to his superior to deal with.
      I’ll take this a step further and suggest that some kind of plan had already been made between the attorney office and the police department to handle just such an order. IF there wasn’t then the major obeyed an illegal order. He should be in jail as an accomplice to the death of Gray.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      First, she did write the correspondence or email that initiated the special attention on that location. Second, nobody said she’d be guilty of anything. It’s isn’t a question about guilt or innocence of the act. It’s that the act illustrates her conflict of interest by the fact that her order started this, the location just happening to be her hubby’s city council district, thereby making her a witness in the case and further illustrating her personal interest in it. Third, there’s nothing on the table about firing her, at least not because of this, unless you want to consider removing her from the case because of her personal interest as a “firing”, which would be a pretty bizarre conclusion to reach.

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    • cclarke116 says:

      Emily Miller from Fox 5 News in DC just posted a photo on Twitter of the email that Mosby’s subordinate sent to the BPD Major. The email specifically mentions that the request for more police patrolling in the area came directly from Mosby and there were also photographs of the area attached that a community member had sent to Mosby.

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    • lou says:

      ANY and EVERY boss ultimately takes responsibility for EVERYTHING going on in their departments….Moby Dick certainly IS responsible and in reality, it doesn’t matter if she or a subordinate wrote the email…..subordinates don’t act on their own…they follow the script put before them….

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  3. James F says:

    Why would she ask them to agressively target a predominantly black high crime area while the DOJ had the police department under a microscope since late 2014?

    Was she working with the DOJ to deliberately provoke a high profile incident that would justify federal intervention?

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    • DeWalt says:

      And you win the internet today!

      Liked by 1 person

    • ctdar says:

      Time to review previous cases if there is an underlying theme or connection to DOJ previous to an incident which could explain why certain locations are so quick to riot and receive DOJ takeover .

      Liked by 5 people

      • partyzantski says:

        It is a plan to effectively secede from State & Local control, then get absorbed by the Federal Leviathan Borg. No state or local entity has the deep (enough) pockets to fight off the hordes of SJW. Take note… this is a thing.

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    • creeper00 says:

      My first thought exactly. Was this a set-up?

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      • SWOhio says:

        We all know that the ‘demonstrators’ were gathered and on someone’s payroll, waiting to be shipped to each identified location.

        It isn’t a reach to believe that those locations were pre-selected, just as the paid thugs were pre-selected.

        It is not unlike the thousands of ‘Closed’ signs, pre-located and ready for installation when Obama shut down the Wh tours, the DC monuments and the national parks. Those signs were not printed and distributed overnight, and the manpower to install them did not magically appear, it was pre-arranged months before. That entire shutdown, which of course Obama and the MSM blamed on the GOP, was carefully planned and orchestrated and anyone who doesn’t believe that has no knowledge whatsoever of the workings of the federal government.

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        • dginga says:

          I wonder if the Baltimore rioters got paid. Does anyone know if the Ferguson protesters got paid their $5 large after they went public that ACORN stiffed them?

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          • The Fighting Man says:

            Old Soros (bankster to the color revolutions) doesn’t seem like the kind to let a few $k phase his take-down of the USA. I have to ask myself this question. If Soros hates America so much, why is he still here? He can go back to Hungary or move to Israel. Nobody has him at gun-point to stay here and mess things up. I’d actually volunteer to KICK his butt all the way to either of those aforementioned counties…..just to get rid of his evil influence on the USA.

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            • Timbo says:

              Money and power is the only reason soros is here.
              As we all know, he has and will do anything for more of it.
              He is a very evil man.

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            • BigMamaTEA says:

              Actually, I’d have to check my files for exacts, but Soros has some international warrants for his arrest. He’s a naturalized citizen now. Aren’t we lucky!

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    • Rurik says:

      This is just what I was wondering and getting ready to post. There is an appearance of a set-up. There is also an appearance of a set-up in McKinney as suggested last night. And then back in mid-May I suggested that Waco might well have been a set-up of both the bikers and the Waco PD. Methinks we all ought to sharpen our situational awareness and beware of set-up situations in the near future. That could be this summer’s new flavor.

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    • John Galt says:

      “Why would she ask them to agressively target a predominantly black high crime area”

      Maybe she wanted wider availability, not so much of a concentration at one corner and lower prices to the consumer: space to destroy, 27 pharmacies looted, thousands of Schedule 2 pills readily available all over town. Consumer convenience is job one.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      Maybe, but more likely she was trying to help her husband’s political career by increasing police presence to improve that high profile area so he can get re-elected or elected mayor or whatever. She abused her authority by overstepping protocols to help his political career. They see o-bama overstepping the reach of his office and getting away with it, so why not go for it? There’s even less to stop her in that big blue city than there is to stop o-bama on a national level where he has to contend with a small amount of Republican resistance here and there, now and then.

      I don’t buy the o-bama conspiracy “kindling” theory on this one much. Occam’s Razor. She was trying to advance them as a power couple by making her husband look like he’d accomplished something to run on.

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    • OP says:

      No different than the Feds convincing WACO, that “something as going to occur”…

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  4. doodahdaze says:

    Arress her and give her life in prison.

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    • AdukeLAXobserver says:

      Well she does seem more responsible for Freddie’s death so….

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      • lovely says:

        Now that is an interesting angle, the officers were acting on orders given by Mosby, so therefore the death of Freddie, if we use Mosby’s linear cause and effect, can be tied all the way back to the DA herself.

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        • SWOhio says:

          Hmmm. Another interesting thought.

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        • smiley says:

          in light of this, how can these officers NOT BE exonerated ??

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          • ImpeachEmAll says:

            If not for Mosby’s request,

            Freddie would still be alive.

            Why is Mosby not arrested and charged

            the same as the officers?

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            • smiley says:

              the disparate impact of The New Black Privilege ?

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              • John Galt says:

                Disparate impact of pursuing people fleeing unprovoked from known narcotics trafficking areas. Illinois v. Wardlow is unconstitutional in the new paradigm.

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              • Kitty Smith says:

                Right. Disparate impact demands foreseeability. Nevertheless, “I dindunuffin”, said Prosecutrix Mosby.

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            • AdukeLAXobserver says:

              That will be a interesting question she might have to answer on a witness stand. And even if a judge doesn’t allow it the jury will wonder it.

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              • Rurik says:

                And that is why juries are always selected to be stump-dumb and infinitely malleable.

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                • John Galt says:

                  I always show up, never request any waiver, but somehow never manage to get on a jury.

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                • dginga says:

                  John, like you I always show up and am never selected. I am usually excused 1) when they ask about level of education or 2) when they ask what I do for a living. I asked some friends who are lawyers (and one Federal judge) and they said lawyers don’t want smart people on juries and they don’t like to have executives on juries. I’ve only ever been called for Federal Court, and I would think that some of the complicated trials for things like financial fraud would require a jury with brains, but sadly, no.

                  My husband was on a jury recently in a criminal court. The case was some drug dealers who were being prosecuted for armed robbery of some rival drug dealers. My husband said the case was so ridiculous that when the jury went to deliberate, they sent a note to the judge asking if they could just convict everybody and get them all of the streets.

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                • mikayla825 says:

                  Same here. I wonder why that is? hmmmmmm

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              • Kitty Smith says:

                No, the jury won’t wonder it. We’re talking about a pool of jurors from the voter roles of Dumbassmore, MD, who elected these racist cretins in the first place.

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          • It looks as if a jury trial is the way to go here. BTW, re: the gag order. If defense attys couldn’t just release this email, they could get it into media hands by filing another motion. And motions are easy-peasy pickins for overworked reporters looking for a 2nd-day lead. Or in this case, what? a 21-day lead? (or ‘lede’ as we reporters say. ahem).

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        • The Fighting Man says:

          Proximate cause. Yep, she’s in the very center of the Venn diagram.

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  5. Mentalist says:

    I think it’s becoming more and more likely that a judge will agree with the defense motion to recuse Mosby from this case. This email alone makes her a part of the case itself, and opens her up to being called to the stand by the defense as a witness. This woman has once again demonstrated her incompetence and ineptitude which begs the question, why would you want her removed from this case when her actions appear to be helping the defense?

    But lest we forget, the BGI put the recollective efforts into electing a black woman as the city’s top prosecutor, because they could not allow a competent white person to hold theofficein a majority black city. Hope you’re happy now!

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    • non agenda says:

      What does it mean if Mosby is recused? She herself can’t appear in court? Hard to see how that’s a big help to defendants [she being such an ace lawyer and all]; and she might even prefer it politically.
      If entire Balt SA Office must be recused — a different prosecutor — that’s Big. But surely unlikely?

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      • AdukeLAXobserver says:

        She can’t try the case. That would be a plus for her. But if she isn’t trying the case that might increase the chances of her being allowed as a witness. And that would be devastating to the states case.

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      • boutis says:

        They are not asking for her to not try the case. The defense is asking her entire office which she “controls” including her “investigators” who produced supposedly the evidence necessary to charge instead of the Baltimore Police Department to be removed from ALL of it because of her conflicts of interest and political involvement. As the article says “politicians” elected representatives ask for extra policing because their constituents want it. She as a prosecutor is not supposed to do this. It violates prosecutor ethics to do this. She is now even more open to the six officers suing her as it looks like she had her office do a dishonest investigation to cover up her personal culpability. Notice she lost the gag order fight and the defense attorneys immediately exposed her. Again.

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      • MouseTheLuckyDog says:

        It means that aside from being witnesses and doing grunt work for someone else, her opffice can no longer do anything wrt to this case.

        Nist likely a special prosecutor would be appointed by the mayor.

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      • DeWalt says:

        You also have a Deputy SA sleeping with the media and engaging in pillow talk.

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      • lovely says:

        The defense is asking for recusal of the current DA office and the appointment of a special prosecutor. A prosecutor who isn’t neck deep in bed with the the Gray’s attorney would be a good start. A prosecutor who didn’t give an order for the officer to target the area that Freddie was in when he had his encounter with LE.

        The fact that the officers were more actively policing the exact area where the incident took place on direct orders that lead back to Mosby is very bad new for the wannabe reality star.

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        • John Galt says:

          Disqualification of Mosby might be doing her a favor. If the case crashes and burns, she blames the new prosecutor. If the case goes well, she takes the credit.

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    • holly100 says:

      Being recused might just be the plan to take the spotlight off her incompetence. She did her part for the cause, made a national name for herself, got as much ‘good’ as she could from this. If she’s recused wonder who it would go to?

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      Mosby has a gigantic conflict of interest problem. To cover up the fact that SHE put the police on them and is at least politically responsible for Gray’s death, she has a desperate personal interest in proving the police acted illegally and with “depraved hearts”. Any finding that the police were acting were acting in accord with the law, and she is sunk.

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  6. Daniel says:

    This is a great way to start my morning. The Mosby fail in this is awesome.

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  7. BigMamaTEA says:

    So, Mosby had, in an email forwarded to one of the officers indicted in the Gray case, specifically directed officers to target the neighborhood where Freddie Gray was arrested, in response to a mentoring group that had expressed concern about heavy drug activity in the area.

    As one of the police officer’s attorneys argued, “Mrs. Mosby herself is now an integral part of the story and as such is a central witness. This is a case where the witness and the prosecutor are one and the same.”

    In short, Mosby herself had ordered the very same officers she is prosecuting to step up their drug arrest efforts in the area where Freddie Gray was arrested.

    Interesting.

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    • smiley says:

      no wonder she looks so po’d & defiant, all the time.
      her defensiveness is deep-rooted.

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    • RJ says:

      Gosh, I thought this only happens to the…security team for Justin Beiber!

      What’s going on? Marvin Gaye is dead, has been dead for some time. I guess our fellow citizens with “slave blood” have been keeping quiet about their true feelings for some time, say since the late 60’s. This repressed anger is now coming to the surface.

      Or is this the work of our “community organizer” who just loves to start fires, racial fires that is?

      Let’s get even with Whitey! The humor comes into play when one watches the black lawyers standing next to the “victims” protecting them with language only a lawyer knows how to present. The “elite” defending the “commoners” is an old game. How often do we see the blood of these elites being shed? Nope, it is the commoners who bleed for the elites here.

      What a con game! Maybe these underprivileged kids should be reading the discourses of Epictetus instead of watching the writhing of Beyonce.

      I suggest more “sensitivity” training is needed for all. Bring in Caitlyn J. for some motivational thoughts before his mascara runs from all those tears!

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      The most significant aspect of it is that the location she requested this be done in is in her husband’s city council district. Her having jumped protocol by ordering it stands out like a sore thumb. I believe the correct route for a grievance by residents of that neighborhood, if there was a grievance, would be for the councilman to take it to the mayor through the city council process, the mayor then would ask the chief of police to act on it. The chief would then direct the commander of that beat to handle it and give him or her the manpower to do it. The prosecutor has nothing to do with it. Her involvement is how we know this was personal on her part to give her husband’s career a boost.

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      • punkinseed says:

        Watch Kitty. Her next press conference or “leak” will be that her Email was hacked by some clandestine group in Nick Mosby’s District 7.

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  8. LHlaredo says:

    “I was just following orders” defense…

    So let get the attorneys, logic. The officers are not guilty, because of “Superior order” or “orders are orders” and as such they have no responsability for any action from their behalf. So basically, the attorney is implying that the actions of the officers, whether criminal or not, are exempt from prosecution or judgement, because “they were following orders.”

    Is he waving a white flag on being able to prove the actions of the officer, were legal and justified.

    This is low, way low. This will question all and any order that are handed down, thus further isolating every law enforcement department from following all orders, officers might feel would jeopardize, their safety, livelihood or career.

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    • boutis says:

      Prosecutors are not supposed to set policing policy. That is not their job. She was not the queen of Baltimore. She was not the police chief. Nor the mayor. Nor the city council. This is a textbook example of why prosecutors are not supposed to set police policy or send emails demanding this or that. The police are not her personal servants to be ordered around. Powers like that are separated to prevent abuse of power. She was ordering extra policing for her husband’s council district so he would look good being tough on crime and she got to notch up more drug prosecutions. Their plan went sideways and she has the power as a prosecutor to cover it up. But she (and her office staff she handpicked) is too incompetent to cover her or her husbands tracks.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      “So let get the attorneys, logic. The officers are not guilty, because of “Superior order” or “orders are orders” and as such they have no responsability for any action from their behalf.”

      Not at all. The lawyers are just saying that Mosby and her office are disqualified from being able to prosecute the case because of numerous conflicts. This also leads to the ability to have a fair trial when a conflicted prosecutor is responsible for delivering evidence to the defense.

      Since Mosby and her office has positioned themselves to be witnesses, they cannot prosecute the case. The defense team is doing what they are supposed to be doing which is seeing to it that their clients get a fair trial.

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    • Kabuki says:

      “So let get the attorneys, logic. The officers are not guilty, because of “Superior order” or “orders are orders” and as such they have no responsability for any action from their behalf.”

      No to your first paragraph, not what they are saying- only shows background, subterfuge, and COVERUP. This email evidence is yet another layer to the lies and deception from Mosby et al.

      As you say in last paragraph, the end result leads to more difficulty & danger to already tough job.

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    • lovely says:

      “I was just following orders” defense

      Incorrect.

      The attorney’s claim for this particular point is more involved than that, if Mosby gave a directive to increase police action in her husbands district, hoping to gain political advantage by “him” cleaning up his district, that is a legal problem for her.

      By virtue of Mosby’s sweeping far reaching all inclusive indictment of the 6 officers it can legally be inferred that Mosby carries some of peripheral guilt as the directive to have a more active police presence in her husbands district came directly from her.

      It can effectively be argued that the officers were in that particular area more often due directly to Mosby’s directive, and if Mosby had not given the directive to clean up her husbands district then perhaps Freddie would not have had an encounter with police that day.

      A curiously tangled web may have caught the spider who spun it.

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      • art tart says:

        lovely shared ~ “A curiously tangled web may have caught the spider who spun it.” Agreed, & KARMAs got the spider’s back!

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      • dginga says:

        Also, it sounds like the officers were specifically ordered to crack down on the drug dealing that was going on in that neighborhood. Refresh my memory: Wasn’t “poor Freddie” a known drug dealer? Didn’t he attract the cops’ attention initially because of his actions as he was standing with some homies on the corner, and then when the cop approached he took off running? Sounds suspicious to me.

        It never fails to tick me off when the “black communitay” whines constantly that the popo aren’t doing enough to fight crime in their area, and then when the cops come in and fight crime, the “communitay” riots because the popo are targeting blacks in their area.

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    • SWOhio says:

      Do you want the police to ‘follow orders’ or to be free to ‘police’ however they feel like doing? I doubt if you really want to see that. This isn’t the old west, after all.

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      • boutis says:

        Police are hired and fired and directed by a mayor and city council who are elected to do just that among other duties and responsibilities. Prosecutors are not. It is a balance of power thing. If she wasn’t married to a city councilman the odds are the police department would have ignored her or told her she doesn’t set police policy. This “power couple” was grabbing all of the power and have been caught at it. There was no check on them in the checks and balances. They are tyrants.

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    • BobNoxious says:

      No; the argument about the memo directing police to step up enforcement on the block where Freddie was spotted is most relevant to the illegal arrest & assault charges against the three (white) arresting officers. That memo essentially spells out that the area was considered a “high crime area” and therefore, IL v. Wardlow applies.

      Wardlow provides that unprovoked flight from marked police officers in high crime areas provides reasonable suspicion for police to detain and search a suspect. Thus, the officers legally detained Freddie & after a search, arrested him upon discovery of an illegal knife. That means the entire case against the three arresting officers is GONE.

      What happened inside the van is an entirely separate issue.

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      • art tart says:

        BobNoxious ~ Thanks, it’s clear to see as you share this will help the 3 Officers who made the arrest which shouldn’t have been charged in the first place since they were doing their job in the high crime area, this is good news for the 3.

        But! I don’t see that this helps the other 3 responsible for the transport of Gray which is where, the ME said Gray suffered his injuries.

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        • boutis says:

          Since Mosby is hiding the autopsy there is a good chance they aren’t guilty of anything either except not being ER physicians and properly diagnosing what happened to Grey. Were the transporters negligent? By what standard are they held? EMT, medical doctors, nurses, clairvoyants? How much medical training in diagnosing someone is a cop demanded to have? If they had some training did they not understand it? Is that a felony? This is the kind of thing that Mosby never even thought about and would have to prove at trial.

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          • art tart says:

            boutis ~ I too am interested in all your questions. You are spot on, “Mosby never even thought about and would have to prove at trial,” I feel good about the Attorney’s representing the Officers which will likely ask Mosby your questions.

            Originally I thought 3 (AA Officers,) were responsible for not sercuring Gray. BUT, if the Dept. is still using transport vans knowing they didn’t have proper seat belts to secure a suspect when they had made it “mandatory policy that all passengers be secured,” imo, the blame would be on the department, not the 3 AA Officers. I thought originally, they could have called for a bigger van, etc., but when Gray was originally loaded, his behavior of thrashing needing the leg restraints couldn’t have been foreseen.

            I now feel the blame should be placed on the Superiors that allowed these transport vans to still be used that weren’t properly equipped.

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            • VegasGuy says:

              “But! I don’t see that this helps the other 3 responsible for the transport of Gray which is where, the ME said Gray suffered his injuries.”

              A new added charge: All the officers now face a charge of reckless endangerment. That is pretty much a “catch all” based on subjective analysis.

              Mosby attempts to set a foundation for the more serious charges with this being the basis IMO. So, even if all the more serious charges fail, she can present an argument of
              “reckless endangerment” causing a chain of events that led to Gray’s death…..A pure Hail Mary attempt. Cause & effect must be direct & unambiguous. Her statement to the effect of, “somewhere along the transport…..”, leaves huge gaps in what might have happened & where that might have happened. That is serious reasonable doubt. Add to that the ME declaring the death a “Homicide” & the resultant implication of proving, medically, that death was at the hands of another. Especially when she cannot pinpoint where, as in her words, “…Gray suffered a fatal injury”……..” & at various points during…’

              How she will attempt to weave the allegations into a provable theory remains to be seen. Good luck there.

              It will need to be far greater than alluding to “Murder” simply because Gray ultimately died & reckless endangerment simply because Gray was “somehow” (yet to be specified) injured during the transport. Especially if she can not connect a specific action on the part of a specific defendant to a specific causation of specific injury to Gray.

              It is a leap to just state that Gray entered the van in “good” health & exited the van “near death” and associate that with the actions of any one or all 6 of the defendants.

              Just my take on the strength of her case.

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        • OP says:

          Isn’t it just 2 officers that are likely responsible? The third officer black female was at a totally different location, not where FG was arrested, or loaded into the van. The van was then radioed to go to her location where she loaded her suspect into the van, the suspects who claims he heard FG thrashing around. If that’s the case the female officer had nothing to do with FG death, since her suspect claims FG was alive and thrashing around?!?

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          • art tart says:

            OP ~ It is true that she wasn’t called to the location of the arrest, BUT, she was called by Goodson to “look at Gray” to assess his injuries due to the concern of Goodson. She said “Gray didn’t answer her when she spoke to him,” but she didn’t consider his condition serious I assume.

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            • OP says:

              Fair enough, I’m sure we will hear about her background training as a medic, or not. Seems she is technically free and clear, how does she know, he isn’t passed out drunk, or stoned? She has no contact with him prior to the arrest, or van ride events. What is she supposed to say or do he’s unresponsive, take him to the station or hospital, how does that make her guilty of any wrong doing?

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              • art tart says:

                OP ~ She is not “trechnically free & clear.” Sgt. White should have called for parmedics, she made the decision not to call one, Gray had already requested one from Goodson. Goodson did as he was supposed to do, call a supervisor which happened to be Sgt. Alisha White who made the decision to do nothing.

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      • Monroe says:

        As far as stoking racial hatred, the worse outcome would be for the 3 white cops to be acquitted and the 3 black cops convicted.

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        • OP says:

          Only 2 black cops, the female had nothing to do with FG, apprehension, being loaded into the van…nothing, she only was the arresting officer of the second van occupant who claimed he heard FG thrashing around…which will prove that she had no involvement.

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          • art tart says:

            OP ~ I dont know why you think someone indicated that Sgt. White had anything to do w/the apprehenson. We all know who the 3 arresting Officers were!

            You are incorrect about Sgt. Alisha White’s participation! Sgt. White was a supervisor & called by Goodson to make the decision if Gray needed EMT’s/Paramedics to be called per Gray’s request. White is as culpable as the other 2!

            OP ~ the article that lays out White’s participation:

            “Sgt. White … spoke to the back of Mr. Gray’s head,” Mosby said. “When he did not respond, she did nothing further despite the fact that she was advised that he needed a medic.

            http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-freddie-gray-mainbar-20150501-story.html#page=2

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            • VegasGuy says:

              “Sgt. White … spoke to the back of Mr. Gray’s head,” Mosby said. “When he did not respond, she did nothing further despite the fact that she was advised that he needed a medic.”

              There are numerous reasons a person can be “unresponsive”, including outright refusal to acknowledge. That, in and of itself, indicates absolutly nothing other that he was spoken to & he did not acknowledge.

              We really do not know if she did or did not do anything. What we DO know is that the transport was originally destined for Central Booking. At this stop, it was diverted to Western Station, which is adjacent to a Trauma center with access to immediate Medical assistance.

              Someone present made that determination & it would have to have been a Supervisor. Either White as a SGT. or Rice as a LT. So at least superficially, Mosby’s claim of no action taken needs to be examined more closely.

              Additionally, as pointed out, Dante Allen was loaded at that stop & his initial claim was that Gray was indeed mobile & animate to some degree during the very short trip to Western Station. So there needs to be some corrolation between his claimed “unresponsiveness” to White & his claimed self mobility while Allen was in the van.

              Of course, having White & Rice both present, & both supervisors, doing “nothing further” at that point, supports the claimed negligence aspect. But it is clear, prima facie evidenced by the redirect of the transit, that somebody “did do” something further, or the destination would have been Central Booking, as originally requested by Rice when Gray was initially arrested.

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              • art tart says:

                VegasGuy ~ The medics weren’t called to the location of Sgt. White, the van proceeded & Gray was in Cardiac arrest when pulled from the van. Why proceed w/Gray in this state? The paramedics were needed immediately which will be a problem for Sgt. White’s defense. Nothing was done further for Gray at this stop in which Sgt. White didn’t call for paramedics. If you think it will be acceptable to a jury that the van proceeded w/no help for Gray, I respectfully disagree w/you.

                Vegas Guy shared: “Dante Allen was loaded at that stop & his initial claim was that Gray was indeed mobile.”

                VG, Donte Allen had no idea if Gray was “indeed mobile.” WHY? Because Allen couldn’t see Gray! For all D. Allen knew or didn’t know, Gray could have been suffering seizures or rolling from side to side as he was hurt & on the floor. I don’t put much weight in anything D. Allen says, there’s no reason to, I’m surprised you think it has any importance as it can be disproven. It’s like DD describing “hearing grass” in TM’s case.

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                • VegasGuy says:

                  Art…
                  No real argument with your response. You state the following…

                  “The medics weren’t called to the location of Sgt. White, the van proceeded & Gray was in Cardiac arrest when pulled from the van. Why proceed w/Gray in this state? The paramedics were needed immediately ”

                  If you take a moment to analyze the above you might come to the same conclusion I do.
                  The Medics would have responded from the very Trauma center Gray was driven to.

                  So IMO, what difference would it have made it the PM’s were called to the stop or if the van proceeded to the PM location? Response time would (was) , for all practical purposes, be the same.

                  Your observation of “the paramedics were needed immediately”, while valid, in reality was not affected by them proceeding to Western Station rather that calling & waiting for PM’s to respond from the same location. Proceeding directly actually might have shortened the interval of assistance, in that instance, might it not?

                  You then state….
                  “If you think it will be acceptable to a jury that the van proceeded w/no help for Gray, I respectfully disagree w/you.”

                  When presented in the above light, do you still respectively disagree? If the objective was to DENY assistance to Gray, then we are in a different ball game. But, just looking at the facts that we are aware of, it certainly does appear that the diversion to the Western Station, where medical assistance would be readily available. was a deliberate act & was done to indeed get medical attention ASAP.

                  Regarding Allen….The only point I make, while keeping in mind that Allen put out conflicting statements, is that Gray did not appear to be unconscious. perhaps he “rolled” around & that is what Allen heard. Maybe. But in at laest 1 statement (the initial one) he did say he geard “banging & what might have been Gray attempting to hurt hiself”.

                  I’ll leave it at that with the caveat that Gray was someone supposedly “unconscious & not breathing”, and confined in tight quarters, perhaps even lying on the floor of the van. Yet he made enough “noise” to be noticed by Allen, who interpruted that “noise” as animated, in an adjacent holding cell.
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                • art tart says:

                  VegasGuy ~ I enjoy your perspective even though I veiw parts of the case differently. When I look at the case, I look at what can be proven, what did the witness actually see/what can the Prosecutor prove or disprove. Example: Can it be proven Donte Allen actually heard anything? The answer is no. WHY? Because it can be shown that DA has told many varying stories & lied. Can it be proven to a jury that DA told many different stories? Absolutely! DA will not be a credible witness & likely not a witness at all imo.

                  You so badly still want to lend credibility to D Allen in one of his many conflicting statements because that is the one statement you are clinging to while totally disregarding all the other stories DA has told. You stated: “Yet he (Gray,) made enough “noise” to be noticed by Allen, who interpruted that “noise” as animated, in an adjacent holding cell.” You are still buying into DA, the other stories he’s told you have disregarded, it doesn’t sound to me like you are considering the lying DA has done, you want to selectively believe only one of DA’s stories because it supports your opinion.. We don’t even know for fact that DA heard anything since he has lied so many times yet you continue to lend him credibility.

                  So who do you believe, Sgt. Alisha White who said Gray was unresponsive OR Donte Allen? I believe Sgt. Alisha White & disregard DA for all the reasons I have shared. It seems you want to lend more credibility to Donte Allen than Sgt. A White.

                  I understand what you are saying about the difference in time for Gray to get assistance but the 3 Officers could not know that at the time they decided not to call paramedics to the site where Gray was unresponsive. Do you not believe this will be pointed out to the Jury because it will be. Hence, that’s why the 3 Officers got charged w/this. Even in the light you are presenting, imo, it won’t help the decisions the 3 Officers made to continue to drive in before Gray got that help, Gray goes from unresponsive to cardiac arrest in a short length of time. In Slagers case, the Officer that checked for Scott’s pulse ran for medical equipment immediately to aid Scott & returned.

                  Consider you are sitting on the jury. Consider you will hear Gray was denied medical care when he was unresponsive, the 3 Officers did nothing to aid Gray, the van proceeds & the Jury is told Gray was in cardiac arrest when he arrived, had to be stabilized before he could be transported to the hospital & died 7 days later. Who would you feel sympathy for? Freddy Gray? Freddy Gray’s family? The 3 Officers that didn’t call for assistance at the time Gray was unresponsive? Juries are made up of everyday people. Most Jurors will have children or adult children, where do you think their sympathies will lie? Would they have wanted paramedics to be called if their child/adult child was unresponsive? If you think about it in that perspective, it’s not an easy sale as you believe. imo, even in the light you are portraying in which you don’t know about the time difference in possibly being shortened because it couldn’t be proven, the 3 Officers had no idea what would happen when they preceeded but we do know what happened when Gray arrived in cardiac arrest.

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                • VegasGuy says:

                  art..
                  This was the only reply spot so I’ll put this here & hope it shows up under our conversation.

                  Again…No real argument with your position. As you state, we just view parts of the case differently.

                  Let me clarify my position on Allen. I am not necessarily “buying into” his statements. I believe his credibility is questionable to say the least. If I appear to “cling” to one of his statements, which I actually am not in the least, it is only because it was the first statement he made. It was on a TV interview. It was without his attorney present, although he did state he had an attorney at the time.

                  Normally, an individuals’ initial statement is potentially the most truthful factually..While they(statements) may be enhanced, modified, twisted, or embelished to some degree, even initially, they normally do contain a general tone of some truthfulness within the overall context of the narrative.

                  Allen would have had no reason, when he made the initial statement concerning what he “heard”, to be lying. Gray was not dead at that time. Allen was being questioned by Detectives as to his ride in the van & what he might have seen or heard.The questioning was not, at that time, a Homicide investigation.So Allen, at that time, would have no reason to “embelish” or detract from what he actually heard (or saw).

                  His subsequent statements were made to Miller after Gray died & that is when his account began to be modified. He knows he already told Police he “heard” something. So he can’t retract that. He therefore “modifies” the statement to “hearing” slight movement or tapping or some other form of animation, and backs off the “banging with possible intent to self inflict injury”.Far easier to modify a statement than to retract it totally & attempt to provide a complete new version.

                  That is all I am alluding to. This guy could become a defense witness or a prosecution witness or might never be included as a witness at all.

                  So no. I am not “clinging” in the least to D. Allen’s s statements other than to point out that he, in some way, shape, or form, did provide information which is now part of evidence from his original statement to Police. He subsequently “modified” that version, yet, in all likelyhood, the main context is apt to contain insightful detail that has some truthfulness retained.

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            • OP says:

              Again, I agree with the narrative, but her job is a police officer, not a medic. She has know history of what FG has been doing?

              Is the van a pool of blood? We haven’t heard that? Could she have assumed he was passed out drunk, likely…

              We don’t know what she knew prior to looking at him, and we do know she has probably seen quite a few drinks, stoners that pass out.

              I’m curious if there was any blood in that van that would lead a reasonable person to assume that something nefarious occurred.

              She has the tightest spot to wiggle out of, the 2 officers in the van, are gong to get charged, the driver for sure. I think that the prosecutors will have a hard time showing she is guilty of any crime, other than making a judgement call ONLY as an officer and not a medic.

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              • art tart says:

                I think Sgt. Alisha White will be found guilty of something, just like the other two. She doesn’t have to be a medic, IF protocal was that Goodson could have just called paramedics himself, he would have. Goodson had to call a Supervisor which he did, the Supervisor wouldn’t be a medic but was in the position to call a medic!

                Common sense should have prevailed. How intelligent does one need to be to call a paramedic? Not very smart & then the responsibility of the unresponsive patient doesn’t get you charged if the patient should die a week later.

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            • DT says:

              Mosby flat out lied about the officers illegally arresting Gray. She flat out lied that the knife was legal. I am not sure how much of her other accounting is even true given we have nothing but her words to back up. Until we see something that shows the officers said that FG asked for medics and was denied, I am taking Mosby’s accounting with a grain (or 50) of salt. She has ran out of credit with me.

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            • John Galt says:

              “When he did not respond, she did nothing further despite the fact that she was advised that he needed a medic.”

              Freddie was indeed attended by a medic at the police station, transported to a hospital, operated upon, then died a week later. Mosby has some huge causation hurdles to hop.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      No, you are way off. That’s not what the defense attorneys are saying by bringing this situation with Mosby to the attention of the court. This is about the prosecutorial process, not the events of the incident itself. It has nothing to do with guilt or legality of Freddie’s arrest.

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  9. I’ll just bet she was hoping this e-mail would never see the light of day.

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  10. ZurichMike says:

    It’s all so confusing now — she looks and thinks like someone who might have attended the pool party in McKinney.

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    • boutis says:

      This is part of the strategy of the “civil rights” movement since the sixties. Everything is screaming, diversion, double talk, baloney, and nonsense. You have to dig to the bottom of it to see what they are trying to do and ignore the noise. The Mosby’s are trying to make a name for themselves and rise to higher office. Law and order, increased police presence, being hard on crime was the first attempt. But they aren’t Martin O’Malley and couldn’t pull it off. Cause and effect is not their strong point. So they did a 180 and tried to blame the police when it was really them doing the big push on crime. It is like blaming your brother for the lamp you broke when you are ten. And left an email. And erased it. Then tried to break the computer so mom can’t see the email. It is incredibly stupid.

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      • bofh says:

        “It is like blaming your brother for the lamp you broke when you are ten. And left an email. And erased it. Then tried to break the computer so mom can’t see the email. It is incredibly stupid.”

        Well, that strategy seems to be working OK for Hillary, so I guess Mosby’s just trying to emulate a grotesque example of [Clintoon] privilege.

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    • TKim says:

      Zurich Mike, you’re a Treehouse treasure!

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      “she looks and thinks like someone who might have attended the pool party in McKinney.” One of the “Dime Girls”?

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    • bertdilbert says:

      She does have the IQ of a Dimepiece girl…

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    • lovely says:

      She would be way to old to join the dime chicks.

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    • dginga says:

      More like someone who regularly attends pool parties at CYNTHIA McKinney’s house!

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  11. dsb steve says:

    The thing is she might very well have a case against the 3 black officers involved in the transport of Gray. That is where his injuries occurred. But she felt she had to indict white officers to balance the ticket so to speak. Which makes the whole prosecution look like a witch hunt.

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    • boutis says:

      Yes! If any mistakes were made it was in his transport and not his arrest. The whites arrested legally and the black officers tried to transport him but I don’t think they committed any felony. They are guilty of not figuring out what was wrong with him which we still don’t know because she is blocking the autopsy.

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      • art tart says:

        boutis shared ~ “lovely” & I at the beginning of the case discussed Batt’s calling the Officers out for “NOT getting medical attention for Gray.” “lovely” made the point as you have, (paraphrased,) “Batt’s shouldn’t have second guessed the Officers.” Before the autopsy, I thought maybe Gray was seriously hurt before the transport, but now, knowing what we know about Batt’s too be an oportunist, I agree w/lovely, Batt’s was out of line. Too, now for some unknown reason, the ME states the “injuries happened in the van.”

        The same thing w/Eric Garner, paramedics/EMT’s know an obese person shoudn’t be placed in a “prone position” face down, but the arresting officers didn’t know it. Now, 35,000 Officers are being retrained as to “obese suspects” medical conditions. That still doesn’t make them EMT’s/paramedics for the next incident. Seems too damn much is placed on Officers backs expecting them to know medical conditions which is unreasonable, none of the 6 Officers wanted Gray to die.

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        • Armie says:

          You know, there’s an interesting angle on the “officers getting medical help” issue: medical help would be in the form of fire department paramedics, and there’s not an infinite number of them. Thus, when a paramedic unit is dispatched on a call, others in the same area see the time necessary to get help to them increase. That’s exactly what happened.

          In the course of making the arrest at Pennsylvania and North that produced Freddie’s co-occupant in the van, officers came into contact with an individual who claimed to have sustained an arm injury. Out of an abundance of caution, they requested a paramedic unit to examine the individual. The unit dispatched was Medic 15, the unit closest to the Western Division Police Station. As a consequence, it wasn’t available when the call for Freddie Gray came in. So, the result of the officers on the other arrest being hyper-careful about calling medics was that Freddie waited an additional five and a half minutes to get medical care.

          Bottom line: actions have consequences. Most politicians and media “pundits” don’t consider that,

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        I don’t think any of the officers did anything wrong or to Freddie or thought anything much about him at all until he actually started show real physical signs of distress. According to people who knew him, Freddie wasn’t a heroin addict, yet the incognito officer on Hannity said Freddie’s tox screen done when he was first admitted showed heroin. Freddie caught the cops’ attention in the first place because they observed him doing a drug deal and he ran when he saw them coming. It doesn’t take a nuclear physicist to figure this one out. Dealers sometimes “eat” their product to hide the evidence. Freddie was already in trouble and was facing prison if he got caught. I think Freddie OD’d and probably seized, which is common, and possibly even regurgitated a broken plastic wrapper which impaired his breathing. Theory: Since Freddie wasn’t an addict but since his mother is and he was a dealer he’d know what quantity was safe and that he’d swallowed a quantity well beyond safe, maybe he had the bright idea that if he threw up the heroin in the paddy wagon, he wouldn’t OD and maybe also that they wouldn’t be able to prove it was his (DNA on the mess would, though, if they chose to take that step). Maybe he contorted himself to try to throw up while cuffed, perhaps by getting on his knees on the seat and leaning over the floor, then perhaps fell and injured his back and/or legs. His movements were heard so they stopped and shackled him. He could try with stomach muscles to throw up, but he was horizontal and it wasn’t going to work out. So the heroin took hold at an OD level due to quantity and he seized causing his injuries and/or got plastic stuck somewhere down in his airway.

        That would certainly explain what happened to him physically, why the ME said “it happened in the van”, why Mosby is fighting to not release the ME report, and why the charges were reduced by the grand jury.

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        • OP says:

          I think you are the closest to the truth, we never heard of any blood in the van, we are lead to believe he was tossed around in the van which caused his injury.

          I’m still wondering, about his 7 days in the hospital. For all we know they accident,y killed him. Too many people involved after he was hospitalized…maybe Freddy’s parents were talked into pulling the plug by their shady lawyer…promise them riches and hand Mosby her indictment.

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          • art tart says:

            OP ~ Gray could have, more plausibly imo, been hurt when pulled from the van in cardiac arrest w/so many paramedics working on him to stabilize him for transport to the hospital. Gray was already unresponsive in the van at the previous location so Gray had medical problems before the cardiac arrest.

            My deceased husband was a Physician, imo, Gray stood his best chance for survivial when he arrived at the Hospital in critical condition, operated on, put in ICU.

            There is no evidence, just your wild speculation that Freddy’s Gray’s parents were talked into pulling the plug! It’ ridiculous imo, how much is the life of your children worth? There will be no riches as I told you before, the maximum settlement would be $ 200,000.00 w/40% going to the family Attorney.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        AND, his medical records. Those specimens taken,blood/urine in the ER, might bear a lot of evidence. Remember, he died a week later from the day of arrest. If there was an autopsy, evidence may not still be present.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      So basically the white officers were the ones doing the actual “heavy lifting” in the high crime infested neighborhood and the black officers were just carting around the spoils of the white officers efforts?

      I am wondering if this is typical or an anomaly?

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      • bofh says:

        Interesting question, actually. The arresting (white) officers would be the ones “playing with fire” in terms of potentially touching off any sort of incident with “the community” – while the transporters would be essentially invisible and blameless (except somehow that didn’t hold true in this case).

        This must have looked like a win-win opportunity for the Mosby’s, since they would likely either have gotten political cred for cleaning up a drug mart, or else, if things went pear-shaped, street cred for creating a situation that helped their BGI allies.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          The white officers are the ones at risk. If an officer is going to be injured it is likely to happen during chasing and apprehension. If any claims are filed against the officers it is going to be the arresting officers. If an officer is fired for wrongdoing, it is likely to happen from some front line action.

          I am just wondering if this is a typical situation for Baltimore, putting the white cop out front to be the “bad guy”. Not saying it is, but it has been on my mind for some time and figure others might have observed the same thing but nobody is bringing it up due to “racism”.

          We would not know unless someone from the PD spoke up about it, but be assured that a white person would not be able to come out of the closet with it.

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          • Dixie says:

            that being the case, wouldn’t the upper echelon of the police department need to be in collusion with her…

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            • bertdilbert says:

              Mosby is a racist and a black agitator/activist. She has demonstrated this in her actions and speeches. What better way to further her career than prosecuting white officers. She had no business charging the white officers. Even the ME report says the injuries occurred in the van.

              I am wondering in her quest to prosecute cracker cops, if she has stacked the deck of front line cops to be white through her husband and chief of police. Maybe an anonymous BPD could chime in.

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              • Kitty Smith says:

                It would be very, very interesting to conduct a detailed examination of duty assignments by race within BPD as well as all other high crime cities.

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      • boutis says:

        Typical. And physical abilities and age have a lot to do with job assignments too in police departments. The van driver is older and looks to be in not excellent shape so he was a van driver instead of a bicycle cop.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        It’s pretty much the same way in the military. Except in the movies, blacks are “under-represented” in terms of “racial proportionality” in the SEALS, Special Forces, Airborne, etc.. Gosh, maybe it’s a problem of mental acuity, drive and discipline.

        O/T Also, South Africa is starting to figure out that killing off whitey, who were the brains and producers keeping that country afloat, wasn’t such a good idea after all. Now they’re trying to put the genie back in the bottle but the blood thirst Mandela wrought remains unquenched. The killings go on, the poverty expands.

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

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    • John Galt says:

      Black on black violence doesn’t fit the agenda.

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    • Les says:

      There are no black or white officers in this situation. They are all on the same team doing the same dirty job for the same thankless community.

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      • Monroe says:

        That might depend on the corporate culture within the PD. If those in power are pushing the “hate whitey” agenda, then even the lowest ranking officers might feel compelled to follow the agenda. Hence, hard working, honest individuals might be compelled to act against their nature for self-preservation.

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        • Kitty Smith says:

          The six officers we know about and the ones speaking incognito seem to be working harmoniously and are on the same page, although a heightening of racial tension among them in spite of all their efforts to work together professionally would not be unexpected when you have lying racebaiter Anthony Batts at the helm.

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  12. myopiafree says:

    The Police Department, and these police were stabbed in the back by this legal thug.

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  13. Allen says:

    Search This Story: A Nation of George Zimmerman’s Awakened – Understand the Fraud – Post Verdict of Acquittal, posted by Sundance.
    You’ll see the layer upon layer of the engine that spreads lies and hides the truth, a lesson they’ve undoubtedly learned from the “Community Organizer In Chief.”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/07/14/a-nation-of-george-zimmermans-awakened-understand-the-fraud-post-verdict-of-acquittal/

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  14. MouseTheLuckyDog says:

    Ok everyone hold your horses.
    An email you say, but but but her email was hacked!
    A fake email was planted.
    That will be her story anyway.

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  15. DeWalt says:

    What really puts a burr under my saddle is the Chief himself new this.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Chief is appointed by the city council. Nick Mosby is on the city council. Rock and a hard place.

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      • BobNoxious says:

        I thought the mayor appoints the commissioner in Baltimore… Has that changed to where the city counsel appoints the position?

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        • bertdilbert says:

          POLICE DEPARTMENT
          Appointed by Mayor with City Council consent:
          Anthony W. Batts, Police Commissioner (410) 396-2020; fax: (410) 396-2023

          I suppose the council has to approve the Mayor’s decision so it would still seem that the council has some say in the matter.

          Shifting to Blake is still placing him between a rock and a hard place.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      You need to know about the chief – all about the chief. It’s quite a story.

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  16. RJ says:

    Just because the word went out to put some pressure on an area with high crime does not mean the laws of proper police behavior are to be suspended or neglected, nor the laws of the land. This is a diversionary tactic intended to cloud other facts…facts which appear to be hidden at this time.

    Listen very carefully to the words, ideas, etc. these “lawyers” are presenting. What a game they wish to play. Too bad the cops are the ones presently meant to suffer.

    Here is an official response from McDonalds on the hiring of Robert Gibbs for a senior position in communications at corporate:

    “Thank you for contacting McDonald’s regarding our new Global Chief Communications Officer, Robert Gibbs. We take an apolitical approach to how we run McDonald’s global business in more than 100 countries. We’ve hired Robert Gibbs for his skills, expertise and outside perspective as we drive our business forward to better serve our customers.”

    Now, mix his (Gibbs) history with the political responses to the Baltimore riots and the dead citizen, coupling that with a loss in market share by Mickie Ds.

    My point: There are liars everywhere, the problem is to know when you are being lied to and why!

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    • boutis says:

      Overall they are one trick ponies and their schtick is repeated over and over. Scream, yell, accuse, obfuscate, “look squirrel”, lie, etc. It is the same scheme over and over and goes back decades. Add in lots of double talk, psuedo and made up words, and misinformation and misdirection. If you ignore the noise and dig down you can see what they are trying to accomplish fairly easily because their schemes always follow a pattern. The McKinney mess is the same old same old and started with trespassers who wouldn’t leave.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      “My point: There are liars everywhere, the problem is to know when you are being lied to and why!”

      Sometimes they even show up at the Treehouse…

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    • BobNoxious says:

      Just because the word went out to put some pressure on an area with high crime does not mean the laws of proper police behavior are to be suspended or neglected, nor the laws of the land. This is a diversionary tactic intended to cloud other facts…facts which appear to be hidden at this time

      True, however, this memo provides (essentially incontrovertible) evidence that the area where Gray was arrested was considered a “high crime area”, therefore Wardlow v. IL applies, and contrary to Mosby’s position, the three arresting officers were justified in the initial detention and search of Gray. As a suit of their legal search, they uncovered an illegal knife which justified the arrest.

      Thus, all charges (illegal arrest, assault) against the three arresting officers are baseless.

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      • RJ says:

        Let me see if I understand this: Cops employ trained dogs to “sniff out” things, etc. A cop who has been on the job for a period of time gains “experience” which may translate into “spotting” a potential problem, etc. The cop’s nose gets educated on the job.

        His senses operating on the job makes sense to me. My senses tell me Ms. Mosby has a problem, my inner (psyche) senses tell me she has many problems.

        Her dog ate the homework! How about she’s a woman, give her a break! Or, she’s a friend of the artist Prince, leave her alone!

        And finally, let her beg for mercy. I’m betting she never will…just a hunch…much like those cops who thought they spotted a bad guy on that corner.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Cop’s 6th sense is not admissible as fact in a trial, it’s one of the most argued points and has been argued and parsed to death ( see Terry v. Ohio).
          Officer in court: “Yes your Honor, I saw what appeared to be a bulge in the suspects waistband under his shirt. He made numerous ‘security touches’ of the object as he wandered around the inside of the Stop-and-Rob, eying the customers and looking at the security cameras. I stopped the suspect, made a protecting pat down of his outer clothing and found a M-2 .50 caliber heavy machine gun, complete with tripod, in his waistband.”
          Defense lawyer in court: “Yes, officer, but how could you be sure this wasn’t just my client’s iPhone 6 before you blatantly profiled my client, violated his Constitutional rights and his reasonable expectation of privacy in a private store?” A wee bit exaggerated but, I guarantee you, not that much.
          The dog’s nose is a gimme in court, what’s argued is (seriously) the right to privacy regarding the odors around one’s body. The issue of a dog sniffing the odor of drugs or weapons within a certain distance of the perp and the officer acting on the sniff is still a defense argument – granted a weak and desperate one, but an argument all the same. Ditto the officer smelling the drugs himself.
          My bet is that Ms Mosby’s playing to her voting base and not the people of Baltimore in general who have to slog through the swamp of urban ‘politics as usual’. I’m still awaiting her reaction if the courts don’t hand her police heads on a stick.

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          • RJ says:

            Lawyers coming into their world where they play their games; ok, I’ll buy your point of view and presentation, as a point of fact, in a court of law, in the United States of America. See the writings of Plato on lawyers for (perhaps) a broader understanding of my perspective. I am reminded of Bill Clinton’s line “depends on the meaning of ‘is’…which was taken from the writings/thoughts of Aristotle if memory serves me.

            I don’t think any rational person accepts the citizen’s death while under the control of the police. We want to know why and how. Some might consider the streets of Baltimore a jungle, rampant with violence, etc.

            The cops are the first line of defense to protect “law and order” in most communities. it would appear the citizens in those communities have given up supporting the cops by their mob actions, etc. It would also appear that our so called “black leaders” have joined the mob in more ways than one can count, both directly and indirectly.

            Perhaps the lawyers would like to put on some police uniforms and go on patrol in those communities for say…a year. Kinda reminds me of the State Department lawyers who tried to tell us how to fight the war on terror, both in Iraq and Afghanistan and here at home.

            Makes me wonder why we give the cops guns instead of pens…Maybe we need better quality lawyers and cops. Maybe this is the calm before the real storm arrives.

            Then we will look to our military. I wonder why…to restore order and bring back a respect for the rule of law? Did B. Hussein O. just say in his style of bullying “screw the Supreme Court if it goes against my wishes on Obamacare?”

            The rule of law…if it does what he wants it to do…and he is black, right? Took an oath to uphold the Constitution, right?

            Stand your ground…and now he comes for comments on the internet that he doesn’t like!

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            • czarowniczy says:

              We’ve had the National Guard in N4ew Orleans patrolling the streets a number of times post-Katrina when crime gets to the point that the city government can’t sweep it under the rug. In almost every case the crime gets out of control due to political meddling in police affairs, it’s what politicians do. When it’s bad but not ‘call out the Guard’ bad the city just has the State Police come in to ‘assist’, as they are doing once again. That’s bringing in a whole nuther layer of policing and politics.
              I can’t really blame lawyers, used to enjoy them in court (unless I was the one being pinned to the table) and in a Democracy people are free to either deal with their shenanigans or suffer from them. They are hired to fight for their clients but it’s the jury’s decision as to whether it’s truth or smoke being blown up their butts.
              Obama actually has a precedent to tell the Supreme Court to pound sand – President Andrew Jackson when he ignored the Court and moved the Indians from Georgia/Alabama to Oklahoma. SCOUTUS has the power to interpret the Constitution but not the power to enforce its decisions.
              Back to lawyers – I remember jow they’d hire us to provide protection for their kids’ parties. They’d hire us for a fat detail fee to protect their kids from predation by the same folks they’d defend for predating. They’d have been welcome to go on a ride-along with me but they’d have to stay in the trunk and not mess with the Trunk Monkey.

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        • @ RJ – I actually have no idea what you are getting at. You are not making sense to me.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        You make an outstanding point regarding the Terry stop in this case in connection with the fact that Mosby, herself, wrote the memo and thus knew or should have known that reasonable suspicion applied to this area in her husband’s district and this stop.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      There’s no connection between Gibbs or McD’s with this case. We shouldn’t mix them together unless we want to sound like hysterical conspiracy theorists.

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    • John Galt says:

      “Just because the word went out to put some pressure on an area with high crime does not mean the laws of proper police behavior are to be suspended or neglected, nor the laws of the land.”

      Right, Illinois v. Wardlow certainly remained in full force and effect: unprovoked flight by a known drug dealer upon approach by police in a known narcotics trafficking area constitutes reasonable suspicion which justifies pursuit and detention.

      “This is a diversionary tactic intended to cloud other facts…facts which appear to be hidden at this time.”

      Like the video that BPD posted on youtube showing Freddie running like a gazelle? Or the knife that Mosby is hiding?

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  17. chopp5 says:

    When will the autopsy report be released?

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    • BobNoxious says:

      That’s one of the problems w/ this “gag order” motion- depending on the language, it’s entirely possible that any exhibits attached to motions (or motions themselves) may be required to be filed under seal- barring the public from knowing anything until the trial begins.

      It would be helpful if anyone could find a .pdf file of the actual motion or at least an article that directly quotes language from the motion. That way we could see what she is seekingw/ her gag order. I’ve only seen it described as a “broad gag order”.

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  18. True Colors says:

    Regarding the street corner where Freddie Gray was arrested……

    Mosby sent out that email to police notifying them that this specific spot was a high crime area, and that the police should be extra suspicious of people at that spot.

    Then, Mosby later claims that there was no reason for the police to be suspicious of Gray based on the fact that he was on that street corner.

    TC

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  19. BobNoxious says:

    Baltimore a police officers speak out to Brooke Baldwin @ CNN

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/10/us/baltimore-police-officers-interview/index.html

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    • Clearly it is hard for both of these LE guys to formulate sentences and clarify ideas. They are probably so enraged their brains are clamping. Did one of them sound like a Black guy to you, in spite of the voice distortions?

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  20. maggiemoowho says:

    Read Stephanie Blake Rawlings State of the City Address. She talks about the policing policies put in place. She said people wanted more police on the streets. She also brought in the number one instigator Jamal Bryant and Obama’s “My Brothers Keeper” program(which I believe contributes to and instigates the Black Lives Matter BS)

    https://baltimore.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=M&ID=387567&GUID=51AB8CF2-E518-4A90-BFAB-042E127B09A7

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    • maggiemoowho says:

      Her State of the City address starts on pg 2.

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    • maggiemoowho says:

      Jamal Bryant is opening “The Freddie Gray Youth Empowerment Center” in Baltimore. A drug dealer, Felon, Criminal gets a youth empowerment center and a Senior Home gets burned down. If the black community in Baltimore is ok with this, then the hell with them. Sorry, but people like Jamal Bryant, Obama and others in the BGI want black people to fail, that is why they support crap like this and they get away with it because they are black. Obama could run a fleet of slave ships and because he is black, other black people would pay to get on it. Black Lives Matter to everyone but other blacks, Wake Up and save your communities.

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  21. kinthenorthwest says:

    As I said else where there seems to be be a widely spread consensus in America that if it’s only a police officer that is threaten/assaulted by someone (even if they have committed a crime) then our officers are supposed to do nothing, and/or use force with that person or criminal.
    It is also becoming a widely spread consensus that it is perfectly acceptable to not only be rudely disrespectful, disobedient and to resist arrest with our country’s officers of the law.
    This is especially true of not only one ethnic group but America’s younger adults of all ethnic groups seem to be practicing and voicing this.
    Sorry but I am seeing these two excuses all over the internet for not only this but for many other cases

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  22. czarowniczy says:

    Easy one for her to deal with – all she has to say is that she asked them to aggressively target the intersection/area which meant to get out there and arrest evildoers, not just sit there and watch then do evil. She never meant for them to harass, oppress, violate the Constitutional Rights and otherwise illegally treat her support base. Anti-Mosby forces who use this email against her will be targeted as hypocrites who want crime stopped but… Pro-Mosby forces will say that the evil blue-eyed-and-uniformed devil police took he innocent anti-crime statement totally out of context and used it as a pretext to harass unto death an innocent young black man. Stalemate.
    I would like to know who/what really influenced her decision to specifically target that intersection over others. Usually when a mayor has a chief redeploy forces to cover a specific block there’s been a complaint by a public/private official with enough status to break through to the mayor. The press or a connected individual who made the targeting of this corner might give us an idea of what’s going on in the background – sort of like when a regular citizen calls the mayor’s office and complains about cars speeding through a school zone as opposed to a powerful politician calling and saying that common people are parking on the street by his house and his pool party guests are having trouble finding a spot. Guess where the poleece are gonna go?

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    • VegasGuy says:

      Good points Czar..

      The mess she is finding herself in is directly due to the haphazard “independent investigation” she foisted on her staff.

      It was done to get herself out in front of the community, to quell disturbances, to remove attention from her husband whose District was central, and to show solidarity with a “cause”.

      The “problems” surfacing are why Homicide investigations, when done throughly, completely, and accurately, take time. Time, so there are no conflicts. Time so there are no “loose ends”. Time so there is solid & provable evidence with which to build a successful case.

      She is now playing “catch up” and being forced to back track to cover her mis-steps. Every time that occurs, she is loosing credibility to the Court. And as I have said many times, she is clearly “out Lawyered” by this defense team.

      Little by little, she is showing her complete lack of experience, knowledge, and ability to be in the position of Prosecutor.

      Guess in her arrogant world, standing in 2 feet of sh*t with 6″ boots on doesn’t matter. She’s young & it’s Her time…….LOL

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      • czarowniczy says:

        The whole thing looks like a blatant case of incompetent CYA. Had she have just let things run out, under close scrutiny, until she saw where things were headed she’d have had less of a mess – now she’s doing damage control on a number of fronts. Herding unfolding events is harder than herding cats.
        Then again, she only has to salve the feelings of her supporters, her detractors aren’t inviting her to any pool parties any time soon so why even bother. She can just turn those haters’ comments to her benefit bu making it seem….racial. I am soooooooo glad I don’t live in a major city any more.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      I think she was trying to bolster her husband’s political career. That’s his district, and that’s why she jumped protocol channels and sent the memo. It wasn’t her department. The prosecutor works with LE but at an arm’s distance. They don’t have cross-command.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I’m beginning to think she should look into her medical care (Obamacare?) to see if surgically shortening her tongue’s covered – she’s stepping on it sooooo much.

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      • John Galt says:

        “I think she was trying to bolster her husband’s political career.”

        I think he calls the shots.

        Him: electrical engineering degree, Eta Kappa Nu, International Electrical Engineering Honors Society

        Her: LSAT scores too low to get into any law school w/o a pity party.

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  23. Totally Domestic says:

    It makes one wonder if Freddie Gray death was a set up. She told the police to go there????
    Could Freddie Gray have been a suicide bomber so to speak for the Black Supremacist/Nation of Islam movement to get that much anticipated race war going? Autopsy report will be interesting, if it
    ever sees the light of day that is.

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    • partyzantski says:

      Totally Domestic,
      Your idea is not that far fetched. The basics of it are played out daily, hourly, in the Arab world. Talk about taking one for the team! Maybe what he was sold is not what was actually desired by TPTB.
      Freddie Gray as latter day Hashishim? Maybe that is why autopsy results are not ready for public consumption.

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    • OP says:

      Who’s to say she didn’t tell the hospital to pull the plug?

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      She, or somebody, would have had to tell/make/coerce Freddie to go there and somehow know the cops would be right there to see him right at that time, and so on. This wasn’t planned.

      If Mosby and her husband and the BGI were going to orchestrate something, it wouldn’t be this. Might Mosby and her husband have hoped something would happen? perhaps, but I really think they were acting in their own self-interest to promote Nick Mosby’s career. Simple as that. Let’s not carried away. There’s plenty of real sleight of hand from the BGI boogeymen to be sure, but this doesn’t have anything that looks like it was planned specific to Freddie or these cops.

      What may be the case is that there are people in Nick Mosby’s district that are fed up with the crime, living beside lots of criminals committing those crimes. Marilyn Mosby got caught between the two opposing forces while trying to make her husband look good to the non-criminals. The criminal element and their supporters rose up. That’s a “black community” problem. I wouldn’t care at all about it if good people everywhere weren’t paying their hard-earned cash to maintain it and pay the criminal justice system, medical cost, wasted education cost, property value and business losses because of the costs.

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  24. nivico says:

    Don’t forget that Mosby’s being the one who gave the orders to intensify policing in this area makes her a viable co-defendant in any civil litigation under the concept of respondeat superior (“let the master answer”).

    http://www.americanbar.org/publications/criminal_justice_section_archive/crimjust_standards_pfunc_blkold.html

    Standard 3- 2.7 Relations With Police

    (a) The prosecutor should provide legal advice to the police concerning police functions and duties in criminal matters.

    (b) The prosecutor should cooperate with police in providing the services of the prosecutor’s staff to aid in training police in the performance of their function in accordance with law.

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    • nivico says:

      Which just adds another layer of conflict of interest in regards to her mentor and benefactor, ‘Billy’ Murphy, representing the Gray family.

      Though the conflict lies more with Murphy as an attorney. He now has conflicting loyalties to both plaintiff and defendant.

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      • OP says:

        Maybe she had greys family lawyer tell the family to pull the plug…”ya’ll gonna be rich…if Freddy dies…”

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        • art tart says:

          OP ~ I trully don’t think that happened. The family Lawyer was likely w/the family at their request when advised by Drs. that FG wasn’t going to recover from his injuries.

          The cap is $ 200,000.00 for Civil Cases, the Attorney will take 35-40% of the $ 200,000.00. Freddy’s family won’t become rich from their portion of $ 200,000.00 less 40%.

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          • nivico says:

            Isn’t that just a cap on non-economic damages, though (pain & suffering, etc)?

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            • art tart says:

              nivico ~ A previous jury awarded 7.2 million to a family of a passenger in a transport van that got a “nickel ride.” The award was reduced to $ 200,000.00 because that was the Civil cap.

              nivico ~ here’s a link for you which explains it:

              Johnson’s family won a $7.4 million judgment that was reduced to $200,000, the legal cap for such cases. Family lawyer Kerry D. Staton said Johnson was seated alone in the van with his hands cuffed behind him and no seat belt to restrain him.

              http://www.cbsnews.com/news/freddie-gray-death-baltimore-police-transport-rides/

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              • John Galt says:

                “Much like any other vehicle, you seatbelt people in and it’s our responsibility to make sure people are safely transported,” Batts said, “especially if their hands are behind their back.”

                Interesting analogy. Number of drivers convicted of murder for not fastening passenger seat belt = zero.

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                • art tart says:

                  John Galt ~ You make a good point. I’ve been wondering when the Dept. passed “Mandatory Policy” that all “suspects were to be restrained/buckled” & if all transport vans had seat belts to belt suspects?

                  Seems unreasonable to make a mandatory policy since all we saw were straps making it almost impossible for a prisoner to hold a strap w/his hands cuffed behind his back. (Gray wouldn’t have likely complied anyway.) In the photos we’ve seen, that’s all I saw. There may have been other methods to transport Gray, but after I thought about it, when Gray was put in the van after his arrest, it wasn’t foreseen Gray would be as unruly as he was needing leg restraints put on at another location.

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          • OP says:

            Not if they can sue the city.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      Mosby as a civil defendant on the aspect you noted is a stretch…..unless it’s proved to have been done in self-interest. She probably has civil immunity otherwise. What this is all really about is recusal, getting these guys out of Baltimore for trial and exposing Mosby as the incompetent, self-interested fool that she is because that has a direct relationship to the charges brought and her staff’s case presentation to the grand jury.

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      • Les says:

        “Maryland’s public officials are often given the ability and power to act in the best interest of the state or local governing area which they have been elected or appointed to. To hold them financially and legally responsible for the decision they make while acting as a MD public official the state requires all officials to hold a public official bond. These types of surety bonds are used to ensure that the public official will always act in the best interest of the public and in accordance with state and local laws and regulations.”

        I’m thinking there is hell to be raised here. One commie group wants to file against a sheriff’s Public Official Bond, why can’t Baltimore file against Mosby’s? She isn’t acting in the best interest of the state or city.

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  25. Gary says:

    I made it the way into a courtroom once, a gentlemen was suing for damages he suffered in an auto accident. I was the fist person asked a question by the judge herself, she asked if I had a problem with the plaintiff having” lived in the U.S. for over 20 years but required an interpreter “. A simple “yes” was all it took for her to excuse me.

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  26. RJ says:

    Too bad you didn’t respond with “no comprehende”…

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  27. Nation says:

    It appears Nick Mosby is up for reelection. I wonder if Marilyn Mosby’s email order was some sick, twisted attempt to agitate race relations in Nick’s district. Maybe the strategy was to instigate racisss, proactive policing so that Nick’s reelection platform could be about stopping the racisss police officers in his district.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      More likely the design was to make the claim that his efforts were lowering crime. The criminals can’t/aren’t supposed to vote and probably wouldn’t even if they could, and their lowlife supporters and friends who can vote don’t vote much; the people negatively impacted by crime do vote.

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  28. Mr. Right says:

    When I heard this news, I was actually shocked at so many levels.

    Not just at her actions, but also how the media is continuing the false narrative.

    This letter sent to the officers, that she wants now crucified, almost say “Arrest by any mean any suspicious drug dealers on North Avenue and Mount Street, you will be accounted for your results daily”

    Well, Gray was a known convicted drug dealer, with multiple prior. And once he saw the cops started to flee the scene of a potential drug deal in progress. (He was know by the same officers, as they stated that he was acting he usual during the arrest)

    And it was well document right here, how Gray entered a building for a short time during is evasion… To see his Grand Ma ? stash some drugs ? what is more possible…

    And for all we know, he could have been standing up in the van, and when the van stop at a red light he fell , and because his hand was tied, and being in a confined space, could have snapped his neck on the back door.
    You see this with people landing on their head, its well document. The force can snap the neck and cause paralysis.

    The only question is not about the arrest, the arrest was done following M. Mosby direct orders.
    The arrest was from start to finish lawful and was done by the book, the knife was illegal and discovered as part of the lawful arrest.
    And Grey was on his way for medical treatment as soon as it was discovered he had serious problem (not acting his usual self)
    The question should be : “Was Gray given proper medical attention” And so far it seem to be yes.

    And Its sad that bgi don’t care about some innocent 3 year old being gunned down, but raise hell on earth for a notorious drug dealer that most likely died from his own stupidity.

    Priorities, the Black community seem to have none…

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  29. czarowniczy says:

    Shoulda though about this earlier – over 50 years ago Leonard Bernstein did a prequel to both Obama’s and Mosby’s speeches/6thoughts innercity issues – and it rhymes!

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  30. jackphatz says:

    I don’t understand why the defense wants Mosby to be recused. She’s already so far over her head in this, how could she not be beneficial to the six officers? If she was the one who ordered the ME to change the autopsy findings, wouldn’t that lead the way to an acquittal? I don’t get it, what am I missing?

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    • John Galt says:

      If Mosby gets recused, it might disqualify the entire State’s Attorneys Office. I’m not sure what that means: special prosecutor or transfer to an SAO in another county? MD has 24 counties each with their own elected SA.

      MD case discussing disqualification of prosecutor: (note reference to “administrative control over entire staff”)

      http://www.leagle.com/decision/1983583297Md286_1565.xml/YOUNG%20v.%20STATE

      If Mosby’s entire office gets DQ’d, it might result in an immediate reduction / dismissal of some charges.

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      • bertdilbert says:

        The problem I see is Mosby is emotionally attached to the case. Too many others in her office are also showing conflicts either via the “in house” investigation or Mosby’s second in command that slept with the reporter who did the leaked interview. I see no way this can move forward without the entire office being disqualified.

        If it goes to a new prosecutor, the tainted investigation by her office will have to come under review as this is what the charges were based on, not the BPD report. The new prosecutor may opt to put it in front of a Grand Jury and see what passes through to be charged.

        Most I see is Goodson being charged out of the lot and that is for moving the van without seatbelt since he was the operator of the vehicle. In most states the driver is responsible for himself and any juveniles under age 16 under seatbelt laws. Goodson would be responsible for the adults under his care. Ultimately, the greatest responsibility would fall upon him. This however does not make Goodson responsible for self inflicted injuries.

        This is a dog and pony show that is going to have a disastrous ending when Baltimore burns because of the expectation built by Mosby.

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      • nivico says:

        John… that’s what I’m thinking, too.

        A new unbiased prosecutor could dismiss all the charges.

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    • Annie says:

      I don’t think you are missing anything but the defense team thinks that the prosecution team lacks objectivity. I think that the defense team is looking for a new prosecuting team from a different office outside of Baltimore who is not as emotionally tied to this case to the degree that caused them to rush to judgment on the officers’ alleged crimes, perhaps to stop the rioting in Baltimore, and who now have to defend their revised charges in court with sufficient and persuasive evidence. I think the defense team is looking for an independent prosecution team that they expect will see these charges in a new light and to drop most of them for lack of evidence of criminal behavior and to reduce any remaining charges to lesser offenses.

      The defense also would like have a less emotionally charged venue than Baltimore. Clearly, they see a trial outside of Baltimore and with a more objective prosecuting team as producing a far more likely environment for a fair trial for all 6 policemen.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      The removal of Mosby for misfeasance, malfeasance and self-interest undermines the charges in their entirety. A new prosecutor might drop them altogether, especially after reviewing what was presented to the grand jury. That’s one reason. The exposure of her motivations, especially if she’s removed, will undermine any other prosecutor’s case as well.

      Any coercion of the ME concerning his report will hold true as to how it affects that piece of evidence no matter who the prosecutor is because it’s connected to the foundation for the charges being filed in the first place.

      I still wonder if she got that crooked cop investigator of hers to conjure up that “illegal arrest” as a means of convincing the ME to rule Freddie’s death a homicide. “It happened in the van”, she won’t release the ME’s report, and the “illegal arrest” charges went poof AFTER the grand jury heard the case.

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    • punkinseed says:

      “Don’t throw me into that briar patch B’rer Fox!”

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  31. bertdilbert says:

    And so a phone call probably came about sometime after the e mail that went like this.

    Rosenblatt: Hey Osborne, I am following up on my earlier e mail concerning the
    intersection of North Avenue and Mount Street.
    Robinson: Yes, I was just reviewing that e mail.
    Rosenblatt: Nick and Marilyn Mosby are really hot on this. Nick wants his area to be cleaned up
    so he looks good come reelection. So naturally, I am sending that message on to you.
    Robinson: Totally understand.
    Rosenblatt: I wanted to reemphasize that we need cameras, informants and other covert tactics
    to get the job done. We need to go full Monty.
    Robinson: We will put all our available assets on the job, including Saturdays and Sundays.
    Rosenblatt: One more thing that I did not put in the e mail. I want your best and brightest most
    aggressive cops on the job. This job has to be done right.
    Robinson: So you are saying?
    Rosenblatt: Mosby’s want white cops on the front line.
    Robinson: I kind of thought that was what you were alluding to, I will send out the e mails accordingly.
    Rosenblatt: Good job, and remember, I want daily measurables on our progress.
    Robinson: You got it, I am going to get on it right away….

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    • wizzum says:

      “Mosby’s want white cops on the front line.” B.S There are plenty of good black cops. It is stupid statements like yours that perpetuate the Right = Racism crap that the left perpetuates.
      It makes me so mad, It is gratuitous, unnecessary and irrelevant to the subject. You just bought down the integrity of the whole site due to one stupid racist comment (yes it is racist).

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      • bertdilbert says:

        It was humor. Mosby is racist. Just making fun of the situation where Mosby orders increased action at that very spot and basically says to throw everything you got at it. Then she attacks the people who were following her instructions by claiming the switchblade was not a switchblade.

        There were 6 e mails sent out. One went out to the person in charge of the officers in Gray’s arrest, Officer Rice. Who got the other 5 e mails?

        Also remember that Mosby Favorited that tweet “Infuriates a certain type of white person”. I would strongly suggest that racism exists in the BPD through the influence of Nick and Marilyn Mosby. We would have a better answer if we had a racial breakdown of officers in total assigned to this duty.

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  32. Oops..looks like somebody hacked her email:)

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  33. Les says:

    It appears there is an issue with Marilyn Mosby’s surety bond…
    http://www.davidanthonywiggins.com/

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      😯

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      Did you read the whole thing?

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      • Les says:

        Yes, and I think the citizens of Baltimore need to file against Mosby’s Public Official Bond.

        She got her bond late. She’s an idiot, but how many actions did she take BEFORE that guy outed her on the bond issue? If she would have had her bond on time, the comptroller would have had access to it.

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        • John Galt says:

          What’s the point of a $5,000 bond? In case she runs off with the petty cash?

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          • bertdilbert says:

            It was probably done at a time when 5k was worth a lot more and they never voted to raise the amount to keep up with inflation. Today, 5k is meaningless. When initiated, it would probably have had a comparable value of 50 – 100k.

            Don’t expect politicians to raise the cost of doing business on themselves.

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  34. RJ says:

    So, I’m sitting on the bar stool chatting with my friend, a 78 year old retired phone company executive–former pioneer within Ma Bell of New York City, in Corrales, New Mexico… when I ask this guy I’ve known randomly, about 38 years old–a true music buff, if he knows who is the hottest young black guitar player in America.

    He looks at me, then calls me a “racist” in no uncertain terms. He is ready to defend his thought with his fists. I am from New Jersey, born and raised: Racism is not a part of my being.

    He won’t relent, he won’t even consider my question: “Is there such a thing as positive stereo typing, and is there such a thing as negative stereo typing” for I want out of his anger. He won’t even contemplate my question, he is dead set on his perspective. He calls me out as an old man locked in a frame of mind way too decadent. My friend suggests we just stop interacting.

    Reminds me of those guys beheading the Christians as infidels overseas. The seeds have been planted in America.

    Obama is their farmer and he intends to bring his “crop” to market!

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    • joshua says:


      Blind Lemon Jefferson
      In his teens, Jefferson began performing in Dallas. There he met another future blues legend, Huddie Ledbetter, better known as Lead Belly. The pair worked together for a short time.
      “Black Snake Moan”

      your buddy suffers from Harlem Itis…any Ma Bell former exec should be forgiven…da Feds done busted em all up into babies….and New Mexico has too many Eastern folks messing up the nature anyway….Corrales…give me a break. lol

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    • Mr. Right says:

      I had a talk like that a little while ago when I highlighted some of the fact in the M. Brown / Trayvon case. The answer was “We don’t understand their culture, how is it for us to judge their behavior”

      It was like talking to someone that had been brainwashed, I got concerned because it was a well educated relative.

      I realized that my words conveying facts had no weight. No matter how much sense the fact made, it was not for use to judge another culture and the way they choose to live.

      Until, Charles Barkley expressed his view publicly… I then received a phone call and suddenly M. Brown went from a martyr of Black oppression to a low life violent thug.

      side note: That also sealed Barkley to be labeled an uncle tom and a black racist.
      Like the black resident in McKiney being called traitors…

      That told me that a portion of the Black population will listen to no one unless they proclaim “White people are the source of all our problems”

      Good thing, those racist, un-educated, low life are but a fraction of the 13% of black American. (But man, do they make a lot of ‘noise’)
      The bad thing, many of them make a living on racism and gained significant power over the years. And they are creating this false narrative of white oppression and making many place in America hell holes in there image (a directly reflection of their thug culture).

      We only need to expose those hate mongering ‘leaders’ , but the media and many politician are using the same propaganda to their benefit.

      And many people are afraid to be called “racist” when stating facts and so just keep their mouth shut…

      All that compounded and you get this tiny fraction of the population holding the entire United State hostage…

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        All true. People have to get over their fear of being called a racist and just speak the truth. Why care what they think about you if they are too stupid to see on their own what’s going on or are too brainwashed to think outside the media box of narratives? It’s nobody I would care to call “friend.” Those people are boring as hell anyway, just by nature of their ignorance, conformity, lack of creativity and lack of independent, critical thinking skills.

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  35. Lottacats says:

    Mosby pretty much set this whole scenario up! She doesn’t give a hoot about Freddie Gray’s death but was lying in wait for something to happen to get on the FTP bandwagon.

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  36. karmapos15 says:

    She’s a total idiot….

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