Candidate Marco Rubio Tells Jorge Ramos, in Spanish, That Obama’s Unilateral Amnesty Is A Good Thing and Should Be Part of Permanent Amnesty Solution…

Until substantive and factual information reveals something divergent I’m sticking to my initial researched opinion that Marco Rubio’s campaign bid is purely a decepticon maneuver to plow through the field, and aid his mentor Jeb Bush.

rubio and ramos(Via Allan Wall) Republican candidate Marco Rubio, in a chat with Jorge Ramos, in Spanish, made it clear that, on this issue, any differences between a President Rubio and President Obama would be insubstantial.

Matthew Boyle of Breitbart (a valuable source on immigration issues) has written up a report on the interview:

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a 2016 GOP presidential candidate, said he believes that President Barack Obama’s first executive amnesty for so-called DREAMers—the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)—is “important” and he won’t reverse it himself if elected president. He delivered these remarks in a Spanish-language interview he gave to Univision’s Jorge Ramos.

So here is Rubio, speaking in Spanish to Jorge Ramos, a principal proponent of the Hispanicization of the U.S., telling him this.

“I believe DACA is important. It can’t be terminated from one moment to the next, because there are already people benefiting from it,” Rubio said in Spanish on Ramos’s television program, according to an English translation provided by the media service Grabien. “But yes, it is going to have to end. It can’t be the permanent policy of the United States, and I don’t think that’s what they’re asking either. I think everyone prefers immigration reform.”

Ramos followed up, according to the translation, by asking: “But then, to clarify, you would put an end to DACA once immigration reform is approved, but what would happen, Senator, if there is no immigration reform; would you cancel DACA anyway?”

Rubio answered that DACA will end only when a legislative substitute with the exact same or similar policy prescriptions—a legislative amnesty for illegal alien minors—is implemented. He also said in Spanish that, if elected president, he believes that America cannot deport illegal aliens here in the country right now, and he expects a legislative solution will be implemented that essentially has all the parts of the massively controversial “Gang of Eight” bill that he would pass piece-by-piece.

So there is no substantive difference between the amnesty goals of Rubio and the Obama administration.  Basically, he wants to make it permanent.  (read more)

GOP gang of 8

Republican contingent from the “Gang of Ocho”

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94 Responses to Candidate Marco Rubio Tells Jorge Ramos, in Spanish, That Obama’s Unilateral Amnesty Is A Good Thing and Should Be Part of Permanent Amnesty Solution…

  1. No agenda says:

    The only people I know talking about Marc Rubio to me personally are Hispanic. When I tell them that he did himself in with Amnesty they pretty much drop it altogether. No lie 🙂

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  2. No agenda says:

    I hate to make it sound like most Hispanics are single issue voters but…

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  3. waltherppk says:

    Somebody should make these people an offer they simply can’t refuse.

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  4. doodahdaze says:

    RINOS seem to have a death wish.

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  5. Angel Martin says:

    the thing that bothers me most about illegal immigration is that it penalizes the legal immigrants, who wait for years, do things properly and go thru all the hoops. Then, after all that, the people who just jumped the fence cut into line years ahead of them.

    you’ve got people who are willing to break the law when it serves their own interest, and they are given preference.

    It’s just not fair and it creates an adverse selection problem. By amnesty of illegals, the US gets a disproportionate number of scammers, corner cutters, chisellers, skivers, cheats, tricksters, fraudsters and all the rest.

    and of course, many of them are just out and out violent criminals as well.

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    • Irish Eyes says:

      Yes, yes, and yes! I wish I could like this about 5 times.

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    • rashomon says:

      My friends who are longterm U.S. residents originating from Mexico, Cuba, Poland and several other countries are NOT happy with Rubio as many of them or their family members stuck to the laws allowing immigration, green cards and ultimate citizenship. This jumping ahead of the line very much angers them, and their terms for these interlopers are not repeatable in polite conversation.

      I really can’t blame them. In some cases they waited many years and take the U.S. laws very seriously. To have anyone fluff off the rules for political reasons reminds them of the frivolity of their old governments where payoffs bought privilege.

      Rubio should stop speaking as if no one in the U.S. speaks Spanish or listens to foreign-language programming. Bi-i-i-i-ig mistake. Really bi-i-i-i-ig mistake.

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      • Dixie says:

        He was a dummy if he thought no Americans understood Spanish or that it would not be interpreted into English. Who wants a president that dumb? We’ve had enough dumb to last a lifetime.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Illegals are criminals and liars..From the day they entered America or overstayed their American visa they broke American laws and became criminals. Everyday they stay here they are compounding their crime and usually adding more and more crimes on top of their first crime, not to mention all the lies they are usually spouting to survive in the US. Illegals are either Illegally working in American and/or collecting governmental benefits to be able to survie in America. Oh then there are the millions who are using criminal activities such as drugs, killing robbing and ??? in order to survive Illegals do not care how many Legal Americans get hurt physically and/or monetary as long as Illegals get their way.

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    • Dixie says:

      I have a neighbor from Chile who has been trying to get her son here by all the right avenues for 7 years. She is really pi$$ed about all the fence jumpers.

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      • rashomon says:

        Do you blame her? We befriended a priest from Chile who had escaped because, as the accountant to the Church leadership, he had found huge sums of money missing and reported it. Of course, he was threatened with “disappearance” (his word). We found a legal-eagle judge to give him temporary asylum, prove up his case with the Chilean consulate and grant him U.S. residency, which eventually turned into citizenship, but the whole journey took over twelve years.

        If I were her, I’d be infuriated and let her Congresscritters know.

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  6. kinthenorthwest says:

    Currently they claim illegals pay around 3 Billion to 4 Billion in taxes in the US.
    Since several Hundred Billion is spend on Illegals yearly, along with Hundreds of Billions spend on the Criminal activities of the Illegals , that means we are way in the hole with what is spent just on illegals every year. Every year these numbers go up by many many more Billions. Most likely in the last decade the expense of Illegals on the American Taxpayers has probably accounted for at least a Trillion Dollars of our debt.
    What is interesting is that this does not take into account; the jobs illegals have taken from legal Americans. Nor does it take into account the loss of educational programs due to the amount school districts have had to divert to ESL programs for Illegals and their anchor children. (Oh I could go on guys for the list is very long of the negative effects that Illegals have had on America and Americans.).
    Yet it seems that most politicians on both sides feel that it would be too costly to ship them back. Just looking at the stats, it very much looks like shipping them back and securing the borders would pay for itself with America seeing savings of Hundreds Billions of Dollars to many of their governmental budgets in less than two years. The biggest savings would be to governmental welfare programs, especially when you consider that a good % of Illegals are already collecting and many more would be added if they are given legal status.
    Before anything more is done with Illegals we need to secure our borders. I am still trying to figure out why the H3LL we are catering to them, since it seems that the number of Illegals that have no respect for our country and laws keeps increasing and becomes more evident every year.

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    • sundance says:

      That progressive meme of Illegal Aliens paying taxes is beyond ridiculous.

      Yes, consumption taxes and (most) local unavoidable sales taxes they might pay, but that’s where it stops.

      Almost none of them pay federal income taxes (manipulation of W4’s), and the few that do file tax returns gain refunds with no taxes paid. They know how to game the system better than taxpayers. Period.

      If you want to begin a mass plan to deal with illegals, start first by eliminating Money Transfer services to Mexico (western union etc) Watch how quickly the problem begins to self-correct.

      But no-one wants to actually propose factual solutions because both sides of the political spectrum actually want illegal aliens to continue doing what they’ve always been allowed to do.

      *Year one – Stop wire money transfers (same process we used to have for Cuban remittances). Require U.S. Treasury compliance form (SS and DL#) attached and accompanying every electronic fund transaction outgoing to Mexico and South America.

      *Year two – build a 15′ double chain link fence across the entire Southern border, filled with sand between both fences just like North and South Korea use. CCTV and Drone Monitored.

      *Year three – Put Federal DHS immigration offices (or trailers – coordinate with FEMA) in every State DOT office. Give illegal aliens 1 year to apply for green cards.

      *Year Four – require every business, corporation, sole proprietorship, etc. to have an employment compliance officer (can be a title added to HR person). Every compliance officer will be required to sign an annual form verifying employment eligibility for every employee in the company. Annual social security check (card check system) – Penalty for infraction:

      $100,000 fine per employee
      1 year jail term for company owner, board of directors, and/or compliance officer.

      At the beginning of year 4 you will see less than 25% of illegals remaining in the U.S. At the beginning of year #5 you will see almost negligible amounts of illegal aliens remaining.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Doesn’t matter that they pay $3- to $4- or $11.8-billion in taxes. May be true but it’s only one side of the equation.

      A low-education illegal alien will cost nearly $600,000 over a lifetime on avarage, as estimated by Heritage Foundation analyst Robert Rector ($592,000 rounding up).

      They are “net” tax consumers, not contributors, due to their low earnings and projected use of welfare and other aid programs, culminating eventually in Social Security if they pay into it.

      The Heritage analysis also estimates the total cost of amnesty at $6.3 Trillion. Bear in mind that our entire National Debt is just over $18 Trillion.

      http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty%20to-the-us-taxpayer

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  7. Coast says:

    I’m glad he and Jeb are making their positions clear. They would never be on my list to start with, but hopefully they are being removed from others. Either you are for America or you are not…they are not.

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  8. fred says:

    Glad he got himself out of the way for 2016. I almost felt sorry for him . I live in CA. in a little town and there is no reason for continued flooding of the country with Hispanics from Centro and Mexico. No one here will tell you one good reason it should continue. It’s a plot and scam by politicians pandering votes while dragging this country and it’s workers down with cheap labor and needy people taking way more than they will ever put in.

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  9. andycanuck says:

    Left-liberal politicians here often say one thing in English-language interviews and something different or completely contradictory in French-language interviews assuming the English-speakers won’t get drift of the content of the French-language interview. So keep an eye on Rubio’s Spanish interviews.

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  10. czarowniczy says:

    Rubio’s a politician and they’ll all tell a saint one thing and teh devil another. I believe he see’s amnesty as not only inevitable but the only way out of a sticky situation. If we tried to deport every illegal that Obama and the party’s given a free ride to the SCotUS would be overwhelmed with deportation-related cases far far into the future. When you’re handed lemons, make lemonade. When you’re handed a few million illegals cum motor voters make Republicans. I do believe that once these Latinos get firmly ensconced into the American lifestyle they not only won’t stay with teh DemocRATS but will become more Republican than many of the Republicans we have now – material and fiscal acquisition makes conservatives. Entitlement living makes parasites and DemocRATS. Most of the ‘Mexicans’ i served in the Army with were more dedicated to the American dream than some of the others I served with, they were mostly volunteers, not draftees, and even worked the borders stopping illegals. It’s all what you make of it.

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    • I do believe that once these Latinos get firmly ensconced into the American lifestyle they not only won’t stay with teh DemocRATS but will become more Republican than many of the Republicans we have now – material and fiscal acquisition makes conservatives.

      Some people believe in bigfoot too. He’s not real either. If your “belief” had any resemblance to reality whatsoever, those Latinos would be republicans now 30 years after Reagan…a republican president…gave them amnesty. They aren’t. Furthermore, there would be at least ONE Latino country that is Conservative if your belief were accurate. Instead, every single one of them is a left-wing paradise.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        You ain’t going to get ’em all and you ain’t gonna be able to deport ’em all. Nice though, sending ’em back home, but the reality is it just ain’t gonna happen – you’d have court fights and gun battles all over the place. If we can’t actively work with what we have at hand we’re going to be in deep trouble. As for the ones that were not made into Republicans since Reagan – the only ones who actively did anything to bnring them into any fold were the DemocRATS and between the Dems holding out the Golden Ticket and the Republicans doing their best to ignore them it’s no wonder they’re where they are at. Ones i served with were anything but Dems – them again from Reagan through Bush I the Republicans looked down their noses at them and those of us who were long-time white Republican conservatives who drove Chevys. Chickens coming home to roost and if the Republicans blow 2016 that may be teh end of American political conservatism except as an abstract school subject and SNL comedy skits.

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        • Sentient says:

          In general, Republicans don’t have the means to “bring them into the fold”, because Republicans’ philosophy – if adhered to – doesn’t allow for giving anything special to anyone, whether ethnic groups, corporate beggars, people who buy electric cars, etc. What does it mean to have “ignored” them? It means not making a particular pitch to them. Conservatives don’t (or shouldn’t) believe in any particular pitch to anyone. We’re about rule of law, adherence to the Constitution, free markets, limited government – and that’s about it. Everyone’s welcome, but no one gets a special invitation or a promise that they’ll benefit individually. The best case we can make to Latinos is that the main reason the US is better off than Latin America is we’ve tolerated less corruption and crony capitalism. Voting for the Democrat party is like voting for the PRI.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            Republicans have ignored Latinos just as they’ve ignored whites who have lower to midrange 5-figure incomes. OK, they come around and make kissy sounds when there’s an election and they need cash but the rest of the time they treat conservatives with light cash reserves as something to be Fabrezed. Many Tea Party folks may like to think of themselves as Republicans but what does the upper tiers (i.e., the ones in power) of the Republican Party think of them? Common folk lost control of the Party decades ago.
            So do the ‘giveaways’ include VA benefits such as were not given to vets as promised during the Nixon, Reagan, and both Bush administrations? What is the difference between giveaways and investments? If programs that would aid Latino farmers to buy US farms and ranches now lying fallow due to the lack of interest by white youth to live/work ‘in the sticks’ are bad then where are we going to get that food production basis back? There’s going to be a huge surprise here in the US when the Chinese and Indians start sucking up that Latin/South American farm production that we so heavily rely upon in our grocery stores. China now owns some 30% or better of US pork production – something the news isn’t trumpeting – and is looking at beef and chicken production here too. Notice that price of meat rising? Note the press and government blaming it all on the drought?
            There are giveaways and there are investments – the definitions and applications depend upon the philosophies of the hander-outers, just as medicine correctly dispensed is curative and overdosed is a poison.
            We (the US) had the same problems dealing culturally with the Italian influxes just over 100 years ago, the Germans, the Asians, it seems to be our nature., but it worked out because the nation demanded assimilation and accountability.
            I don’t believe in being so rigid in doctrine that I break when the winds pick up, there is going to be cultural evolution and the trick’s to adapt and adopt. This isn’t the same US as 200 or 100 years ago but what the country stands for and the Constitution are still there, a bit battered for wear, and all of those Europeans that fought each other for centuries who immigrated here are now assimilated.
            As for the corruption – it’s here at every level, it’s endemic to politics regardless of party affiliation. Every now and then some pol pops to the surface when his/her greed exceeds the tolerable limits of daily crooked business and the deniers all breathe a sigh of relief and tell themselves the system’s cleansed itself. It’s not that we tolerate political corruption, we ignore it. The corrupt pols get to gnaw away at the foundations as long as they don’t get too greedy. Do you really think that the US Congress is any less corrupt than, let’s say, Mexico’s? Perhaps we redefine corruption so that it makes us feel easier – heaven knows that the daily reports coming out of the Louisiana Legislature should scare the daylights out of the population but the overwhelming majority just write it off as ‘business as usual’ – and Louisiana’s a red state. I doubt that Louisiana’s alone in the cronyism/corruption business but some states are just that much better in hiding it, and corruption knows no party.

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            • Sentient says:

              If Hispanics are facing racial discrimination in obtaining bank loans to buy farms, those banks should face criminal and civil penalties. Banks don’t generally have a problem making good loans, though.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                I have a farm on a loan – try getting a loan from any bank but a ‘land bank’ for a farm/ranch/rural property – and they are Federally chartered and funded. Should I have just waited until I had all of the cash in hand – is my Federally-guaranteed/backed loan a giveaway? I like to think of it as an investment that will return to all concerned far more than it cost – it’s all in one’s view.

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            • Bill says:

              This is textbook leftist deflection, bringing up a bunch of arguable/questionable crap from the past, while not addressing the issue at hand. Kinda like the current genocide of Christians by Islamic terrorists is just fine, well, because of The Crusades and all.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                No. nothing at all like the genocide of Christians by Moslems – in my personal view the comparison’s disingenuous and a disservice to the Moslem victims.
                The influx of Latinos has the potential to be a cultural nuke but the reality of the situation’s that the are here and we have few options. What’s PAST is PROLOGUE, it’s learning and the basis for making decisions (got that from a textbook).
                So what are you proposing? Open up those FEMA camps and shave the Army start rounding up anyone with a Spanish surname and incarcerating them until they can prove citizenship? Will proven citizens then be allowed to – do what?
                We have the separate issues of dealing with the millions here already and preventing further floods across the border. This is like the problems we had, exactly like the problems we had, with the floods of Italians in the 1880s/1890s and the Chinese who were brought here to build the railroads. Oh yeah, and the Polish/German sides of my family who were unacceptable to the English/French/French Canadians in the area they immigrated to here.
                Facts are that the white population of the US is on a steady birth decline that isn’t likely to rise much for the next 50 or more years. The reality of a joint white/Hispanic plurality by mid-century is what we’ll have to work with and if we deal with that as we did the waves of ethnic Europeans who hated each other we may come out of this – if not…

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                • Bill says:

                  So what are you proposing? Open up those FEMA camps and shave the Army start rounding up anyone with a Spanish surname and incarcerating them until they can prove citizenship?

                  Why limit it to those with Spanish surnames? Are you a racist?

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  I’m proposing that the ones who are here and already insinuated in the culture, mainstream or out in the eddies, be allowed to earn citizenship just as most of our ancestors were. Not to do that would offer us two options: (a) a precedent for open borders or (b) roundups and mass deportations by force, neither of which would be helpful to the country at all. I’m a realist, I have always worked with what was at hand and right now we have a huge and entrenched Latino population. Rounding them up and shoving them over the border’s is unrealistic and potentially destabilizing to our Constitutional process. It may feel good when we think about it but it’s a realistic no-go. We have absorbed millions of Asians over the centuries and I don’t think anyone can question their loyalty as a whole, we can do the same with ANY peoples who want to subscribe to the principles in the Constitution – something a lot of white pols don’t do.

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                • the reality of the situation’s that the are here and we have few options.

                  But plenty of strawmen, non sequiturs and red herrings.

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                • Not to do that would offer us two options: (a) a precedent for open borders or (b) roundups and mass deportations by force

                  It’s the same BS with you amnesty shills every time. It’s either let them all stay or mass deportations, neither of which are the only possibilities.

                  Here’s an idea: Enforce the law. We manage to do that with every other aspect of law enforcement without any mass roundups. Nobody ever says “You know, there are 10 million American criminals running around in the country, and we can’t round them all up and force them into prison, therefore we have to forgive their crimes and in some cases, give them a permit to continue breaking the law.”

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  And in a pinch a good red herring serves up nicely, especially with a cold lager

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    • canadacan says:

      Thank you Czar you already know where I stand I appreciate your insight and comment

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I’ve given up on the concept of an honest politician, I’d just like to see one that values the country’s future more than his/her own

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  11. doodahdaze says:

    Huckster too. Both splitting votes off to help the Jebster.

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  12. I haven’t trusted Rubio since the gang of Ocho incident. I don’t want a president in favor of amnesty, period. No, I don’t think it’s too costly to deport them. Aesop made a suggestion that I found to be very logical on his blog:

    “Try it my way for six months, (which would be the first six months it’d have been tried since the 1950’s) and let’s see how it works out down the road. You start raiding the business that start with “A” on Monday, “B” on Tuesday, and by Wednesday noon, you wouldn’t be able to get on I-5 southbound south of Seattle or I-35 southbound south of St. Paul, and the delay to cross the Mexico border would be measured in days, for a month.
    Unemployment here would drop to functionally zero, wages would rise, the US economy would be booming, and Mexico would be in revolution by the end of the month: I call that a grand slam.”

    http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/11/walls-and-fkheads.html (Language warning)

    In conclusion an old favorite tweet:

    No amnesty for lawbreaking illegal aliens! Period!

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    • No, I don’t think it’s too costly to deport them.

      And you would be right. If we can afford to fly them in, fly them and bus them all over the country, house them and clothe them like we did with so many last year, we can afford to deport them.

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      • Sentient says:

        Even Sundance – the administrator on a pretty conservative blog – isn’t advocating deporting them all. Think about that. Then think about it again. The “deport them all” constituency is so small that it’s a minority among self-described conservatives. That’s why it won’t happen. You have to deal with the issue from reality. Read Luke 14:31-32. The majority of Americans want the border sealed (not “secured”). “Secure the border” is a euphemism for leaving the border wide open. We need to complete a real 1,900 mile border fence before starting any regularization. I would argue that it should be 50′ high double fence, not merely 15′ high double fence. The incremental increase in cost wouldn’t be huge, but the increased difficulty to cross it would be.

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        • Bill says:

          How about this, then: deport them all and make repeat offense of illegal entry into the country punishable by death?

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        • You do realize that what sundance is advocating is a hands-off deportation, yes? If everything he suggests was instituted, we wouldn’t have to deport because the illegals would self-deport. I sincerely that people who want illegals deported are the minority you are trying to tell me they are. Even what I suggested from Aesop was a form of Self-deportation with the idea being that once businesses start getting raided in a check for illegal workers, the illegal workers will get the idea they aren’t welcome.

          We don’t have to deport. Make their lives here hard enough, give them no handouts, no tax refunds on things they never paid, no quarter where they can find employment, and the problem should self-correct pretty quickly.

          (So in other words, the only thing Mexico has that we should copy is their policy on illegal border crossers.)

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        • Even Sundance – the administrator on a pretty conservative blog – isn’t advocating deporting them all.

          Another strawman. Do we catch and jail every car thief, rapist, or drug dealer? No. But we do have a policy of capturing and jailing those we can. We don’t say “You know, we can’t catch them all so we have to make it legal for them to commit their crimes.”

          Deportation has been the policy of this country for decades. It’s not a new thing. We’ve been deporting hundreds of thousands a year for 20 years.

          So if euphemisms bother you, stop using the “we can’t deport them all” nonsense. We all know what that means too: Amnesty.

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  13. joanfoster says:

    Interesting that he made these statements in Spanish. I want him forced to say the same thing in English and then see how far he goes in the primary. I will say it once again, when he got in bed with Chuck Schumer, he no longer impressed me. He and Lindsay Graham would make great roomies.

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  14. allhail2 says:

    He might as well just cancel his run now. SMH. It’s like none of them paid any attention to the last three elections. Full steam ahead with stupid.

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  15. mimbler says:

    My theory is that the establishment repubs are all beholden to their donors (like Chamber of Commerce) that want cheap labor. The voters preference doesn’t appear to be a factor with them.
    I’m not saying the dems are any better, they want illegals for votes -and- donor money!
    Mike

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    • fred says:

      My question is when do they turn off the spigot. How many people must we absorb before they have to close the border. 100million 500 million. Very soon they will break the bank here in CA. and there are millions more here now than needed for cheap labor. There are not many jobs. Most go straight to having kids to collect welfare and benefits. So when will it stop. Ask Marco that. When we realize total and complete collapse of all our systems. It’s getting close here where I live plus unprecedented crime rates for this group.

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  16. aprilyn43 says:

    I live in Florida and Florida would be much better without this jerk in any governmental position; I sincerely hope and pray “No One” votes for this idiot.

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    • Sentient says:

      The only good thing Rubio could accomplish is to siphon off votes from Abuela Jebita in Florida and Nevada so that Walker could continue his winning streak after IA, NH and SC. I sincerely hope Walker doesn’t screw the pooch on the border issue, though.

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  17. bob e says:

    this is population replacement. blacks are so stupid , if you broach the subject & mention barry o’fraud.. is doing this, you are racist .. ask them what they are gonna do when Bnos-latinos have 5 times the voter power, & a powerful latino congress caucus, they break off conversation.
    how bout a latino presidente ..eh ?? ‘isn’t it about time we had a “latino” president .. ??’

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Ck out Los Angeles jobs that were held predominately held by blacks for many years.
      The Hispanics formed unions, and most of them are now held by illegals and hispanics.

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      • bob e says:

        just wait .. i studied the war in the balkans because i have no idea what the ‘ell was going on. it was vicious. see movie dennis quaid called ‘savior’ to give you a flavor.
        the entire world is going to be embroiled in something like this .. god help us

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  19. SD, You had me at eliminating Money Transfer services to Mexico 😉

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  20. tessa50 says:

    My guess, not one single candidate will say flat out that they support deportation of illegals. Period. Not a single one of them either side has the guts to support our laws. Nope, it will be reform immigration, blah blah. They will get amnesty, the borders still won’t be secure and life goes on for the politicians.

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    • Sentient says:

      If Sundance were a candidate, he wouldn’t say that either. The only purpose that “deport them all” could potentially serve is as a bargaining chip. To use another metaphor, the “deport them all” folks could serve as the “bad cop” in a good cop/bad cop effort. I like Sundance’s plans. They have to be enacted in the order he laid them out. Sequence is everything. None of the illegals should get any sort or regularization until the fence is completed. They should continue to linger “in the shadows” fearful of deportation and denied any rights until after the fence has been certified as complete by 3/4 supermajorities in both houses of congress.

      Regarding the fence, it would take smart lawyering. First, it would require EXACT legislated specifications (50′ high, double fencing, the composition of the materials, access roads, sensors, etc.). Rubio’s last attempt to pull the wool over our eyes in 2013 delegated all the specifics to the likes of then-DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano. Second, any fence legislation would require enabling legislation that trumps all existing law, including tribal and environmental laws. If not, it would be tied up in the courts for decades. None of it can be accomplished without a Republican in the White House and Republicans in control of both houses of Congress – if then. It would take the leadership of a president who wants the US-Mexico border sealed. That excludes all democrats, Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio.

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      • rashomon says:

        As I recall, when some fencing first went up, lots of land legally belonging to Texans suddenly went…ah…south of the border down Mexico way. That should be rectified.

        Also, I read an Israeli company, Elbit Systems, had been awarded a contract in March of 2014 to build “intrusion detection systems” along the U.S./Mexican border. Nogales was mentioned as one site for a control center with multiple additions possible as money is released, but no further information has been available since then.

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      • sundance says:

        If Sundance were a candidate I would entirely say that.

        My proposals don’t focus one iota on the person, they are not based on people, they are based on broken systems, systemic issues within various constructs, that promote the unlawful.

        My proposal focuses on changing a few processes to address an unlawful action taking place. Compliance is transparent to the already lawful and specifically targeted to address only that which is unlawful. No law abiding, ordinary citizen would be impacted at all.

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  21. Justice_099 says:

    In less than a year, I will be marrying a non-US citizen and bringing her here. I fully expect that I need to follow the laws exactly and that it will be a very long and expensive endeavor.

    I have joked with her before that perhaps it would be easier to just buy her a ticket to Mexico and just have her walk over the border.

    It angers me to know what we will have to go through to establish her citizenship here while these criminals are rewarded (this seems to be a recurring theme, doesn’t it – criminals rewarded, law abiders punished.)

    BTW, she is a strong conservative and once she is able to vote, there is no doubt she will vote conservative. So bonus!

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  22. georgiafl says:

    Rating the GOP candidates on Amnesty:
    Jeb Bush
    “…Jeb, as we all know, supports amnesty for illegal aliens, and he’s proud of it. If he were running in Honduras, I would vote for him in a minute…”

    Marco Rubio
    “…Rubio co-authored a bill that would have given amnesty to illegal aliens. He has since tried to walk back from that…”

    Chris Christie
    “…Chris has been cagey on the subject, but one thing is clear: he ordered his appointee to Frank Lautenberg’s Senate seat to vote for Marco Rubio’s amnesty bill…”

    Rick Perry
    “…Perry is tough on illegal immigrants! He sent a handful of national guard troops to the border! (With orders not to arrest any illegals.) But as for those illegals who manage to slip through this imposing gauntlet, Perry rewards them with taxpayer-subsidized college educations. If he’s paying for illegals to go to college, I think it’s safe to say he supports amnesty…”

    Mike Huckabee
    “…in February 2007, Huckabee … stated, ‘We shouldn’t have amnesty where we just say, “Fine, everybody’s good, we’re going to let it go.’ We should have a process where people can pay the penalties, step up and accept responsibility for not being here legally…”

    Scott Walker
    “…Walker backed the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill in 2006… [and] went as far as to tell POLITICO in 2013 that he supported a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants…”

    Rand Paul
    “…Paul claims he’s against amnesty, but he voted for an amendment to give 2 million ‘temporary’ visas to illegal aliens annually…who could then apply for citizenship. It looks like amnesty to me…”

    Ted Cruz
    “Cruz is the only major candidate who has never supported or endorsed amnesty.”

    From American Thinker via Doug Ross:
    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2015/04/boom-rating-gop-field-on-amnesty.html

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    • Sentient says:

      I’d probably support Cruz if he had a chance of winning. I don’t think he does. I guess we’ll see.

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    • rashomon says:

      I have called Walker’s office about this several times over the last 18 months since Obama opened the door to mayhem. He is not for amnesty, but a clear adherence to border control and enforcement of the legal system, which has become a political football since no employer can check a potential hire’s status without getting in trouble with the Feds. Nor can the LEOs stop someone and check their status without the DOJ interfering. He is a law-and-order guy as attested to by David Clarke, the Sheriff of Milwaukee County, WI. As a governor, he sees issues that Congresscritters never have to address while sitting in D.C. (a good reason to shrink the Federal government and bring back most issues to the state level — THAT is the job of Congress. Shrink the government.)

      http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/01/gov-walker-supporting-immigration-reform-doesnt-mean-amnesty/

      http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/04/15/milwaukee-sheriff-hits-mayor-for-cheap-shot-on-walker/

      BTW, Eisenhower’s 1954 Operation Wetback was coordinated with the blessing of Mexico officials who sorely needed all those Mexican laborers who were going north for better wages and leaving Mexico’s fields to rot. I’m old enough to remember that public relations disaster. People were taken far, far south, away from their native area, without food, clothing or resources to get home. U.S. famers and ranchers, who had become dependent on the influx of millions of guest workers, were suddenly without adequate labor. LBJ, then a Texas senator, was irate, so the border patrols started exportation procedures in the other states to give the illegals in Texas time to flee on their own to avoid arrest. I don’t know if the present Mexican government would cooperate as such.

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  23. Lou says:

    I knew of this long ago. Rubio loves the Cubans, and wants to turn Miami into Cuba. Miami is so overcongested with immigrants from South America, Central America, Haiti, and Cuba. Back in the 90’s, I remember a sticker that read “Will the last American that leaves Miami, please take the flag?”
    Now, I want to buy that sticker, but I’m sure my car may be vandalized with that decal on.

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  24. Imagine that, an excellent Republcan candidate capable of articulating conservative views! Too bad for conservatives that they oppose his pragmatic views on immigration!

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    • Les says:

      I’m not even sure what this means. Are you saying Rubio isn’t a conservative or are you saying conservatives aren’t conservative or are you saying something else entirely?

      Maybe try it without the exclamation points.

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    • Which part was conservative…when he was against amnesty, or for it? Or when he was against it against it again, or for it again? Or when he was working for Chuck Schumer and cutting ads for liberal front groups that pretended to be conservative so people would buy his amnesty bull? Or maybe he was conservative when he said one thing is English and something else in Spanish. Or maybe he was conservative when he was using his boss’s credit card to buy personal items.

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  25. Sentient says:

    When Germans were the main immigrant group no one campaigned for president in German. Virtually everyone with a legal right to vote – even Latino Americans – understands English. The occasional foray into foreign language appeals to new US citizens is okay, but using part of your speech announcing your run for president to speak in a foreign language (as Rubio did) should immediately make that candidate suspect. My guess is that the candidate who says “I don’t need to campaign in Spanish because Hispanic Americans understand English” would get a lot of respect from Hispanic Americans who would like the straight talk and are insulted at being pandered to. Speaking Spanish to everyone who’s Latino is a little like speaking louder to everyone who’s Asian. It makes no sense.

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  26. Kauf Buch says:

    Now the Rubio Camp’s schtick is “He was mis-translated! The ‘important’ has to do with the following sentence, not DACA!”

    RUBBISH. Senor Marco Amnestia Rubio STILL says he’s for supporting the illegals until they don’t need the help and THEN he would get rid of the program.
    EXCUSE ME?!?

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  27. 2x4x8 says:

    I hear you on Marco Rubio, known about where he is coming from because of the Senate Immigration Bill, as Rubio and Rush Limbaugh said, “No Republican is talking about deporting the millions of illegals”, the process is to close the borders, most likely provide some type of status to those already here, so they can assimilate

    whether a “deport all illegals” Presidential candidate will announce that position, is doubtful, I supported Tom Tancredo in the Colorado Republican primary, and he didn’t make it

    Tea Party conservatives have good ideas, many presented them at last weeks NRA convention, not sure if deportation will fly in 2016

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    • doodahdaze says:

      The way to stop it is cap the welfare budget at current level. Any additional freebie recipients will reduce the level of freebies for the current parasites. Adding 30 million illegals to the rolls will shake em up.

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    • That’s the con. It’s not deport them all or deport none. Anyone who makes that argument…including Rush…is simply pimping for amnesty. That logic doesn’t apply to any other aspect of law enforcement. No one says we can’t catch all car thieves, so we have to forgive all car thieves instead and let them keep the cars too.

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  28. Tea Party conservatives have good ideas, many presented them at last weeks NRA convention, not sure if deportation will fly in 2016

    And who is it telling you that? The very same people who don’t want them deported. That’s like Al Gore telling us opposing global warming won’t fly in 2016.

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  29. shipley130 says:

    When everyone from the president of the US through his cabinet down to the newest House members are corrupt, what can We The People do? All we can do is elect new people and hope they pass laws that will fix the future status of our government.

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  30. Name requred says:

    every last politician is a liar! Not one will ever stand for we the people!
    “I will close the borders, round up and deport every illegal, and tightly monitor every last muslim for potential threats!”

    Thats what we want to hear, but they do not care what we want! They only care about themselves!

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