CONFIRMED ! Walter Scott Passenger Confirmed By Investigators To Media – “Pierre D Fulton” (29)

We shared this exclusively yesterday – Today the media confirm our research.

A source close to the Walter Scott shooting investigation has confirmed the identity of the passenger.

Pierre D. Fulton, 29, of North Charleston, was riding in the vehicle with Scott when he was pulled over on Remount Road April 4 by North Charleston Patrolman 1st class Michael T. Slager. (link)

Walter Scott - Passenger - Pierre FultonPierre Fulton DOB 01/19/1985 (aka Pierre Deangelo Fulton, aka Pierre D’Angelo Fulton)

Charleston County, SC, LEO Engagement consists of:

2001 – (16 years old) 2 counts of armed robbery – No disposition listed because the prosecutor sent it down to family court and those proceedings are protected from public view. [link]

2003 – (18 years old) Unlawful Carrying of a Pistol (dismissed), [link] Unlawful Possession of a Pistol (plead guilty – sentenced to 2 years probation[link]), Distribution of Crack Cocaine (reduced to possession of crack – probation [link]), Possession With Intent to Distribute Crack Near a School (dismissed [link]).

2005 – (20 years old) Unlawful Carrying of a Pistol (plead guilty – 174 days time served), Possession of a Stolen Pistol (dismissed) [link], Unlawful Possession of a Pistol (dismissed), Probation Violation – probation revoked for a short period. [link]

2011 – (26 years old) Distribution of Marijuana (dismissed) [link].

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179 Responses to CONFIRMED ! Walter Scott Passenger Confirmed By Investigators To Media – “Pierre D Fulton” (29)

  1. ZurichMike says:

    Why couldn’t he choose a life of a budding astronaut like . . .

    oh, never mind.

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  2. booger71 says:

    Wow..the judges loved this guy

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  3. ButterCookie77 says:

    He sure does have a history of illegally being in poseession of PISTOLS… hmmm.. makes me wonder if Scott was fumbling around with something in the car before he ran out….

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    • Roy says:

      And the gun control crowd are rabid to disarm law abiding citizens. If that ever happens, these are the kind of people who will be left holding guns.

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  4. yankeeintx says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many “dismissed” charges. Who does he know?

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  5. yippie21 says:

    So Pierre says to Scott… “man… this ain’t good. These racists cops are gonna arrest your ass for sure ….. that is… unless you make a run for it.” Scott say, “whaaat? Come on man, if I run and they catch me, I’ll surely go back to jail for a good stint this time… for realz”. Pierre says… “nah man, I’ve been sent up time after time after time and they ALWAYs let my ass go.. because the system… it’s don’t work like you think it works. Now go on…. get outta here. I’ll watch the car for ya ” /s

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  6. lastConservinIllinois? says:

    Quite the pleasant looking gentleman.

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  8. John Galt says:

    I think there has to be some contraband. Either with Scott, dumped by Scott when he ran, in the car, or dumped near the car by Pimpdezzle.

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    • ButterCookie77 says:

      I agree. When viewing the dash cam video, he does appear to have something in his hand. And yes, I have always thought that he ditched a weapon, perhaps, during the fight or right before, which would make sense why Slager viewed him as a threat if he fled. Is anyone able to slow down the dash cam video to focus on his hands?

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  9. Canuckster says:

    I don’t think there were drugs or anything else involved here. Scott thought he was going to jail for unpaid child support. His brother publicly said that’s what Walter does, he runs. Scott was on the phone with his mom, so his mom more than likely knew it was going to run again. Scott had a job. He was probably just taking that dude for a ride in his new car. Had they been doing something wrong the passenger would’ve left the car once the cop chased Scott. The passenger also hasn’t been in trouble with the law for 4 years. He’s no angel but he did nothing wrong here so he can’t be slammed for anything in this matter. He fully cooperated and was released by police.

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    • Rurik says:

      And yet he let the po-po have his ID, a guarantee he could be tracked and found quickly.

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      • Canuckster says:

        The cop has no idea if the driver is really the person in the drivers licence. When Scott ran the cop clearly thought the car was stolen. Scott had no ownership or insurance. But if the passenger or Scott had drugs or guns or whatever, there is no way the passengers stays in the car after the cop chases Scott because the passenger knew more cops were now on the way. He knew he’d be searched, and he knew the entire area Scott ran through would be searched for drugs or guns. Nothing was found. They were doing nothing wrong, Scott ran because of unpaid child support and his brother stated that’s what Walter does, he runs, and since he was on the phone with his mom, Walter’s mom KNOWS Walter was going to flee because he probably told her so and also said COME BAIL ME OUT MOM.

        I’m curious as to what Walter was going to tell the cop when he got out of the car the first time. Only the passenger knows…

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        • Justice_099 says:

          Driver’s licenses have photos…

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          • Canuckster says:

            Easy to forge documents.

            Scott knew he was dealing with a cop because the cop is in a police car, dressed as a cop with a badge. The cop has no idea who he is dealing with. The driver has no insurance, no ownership and his story about already buying the car, then going to buy the car on Monday contradict themselves.

            Scott failed to pay child support, yet he just told the cop he’s buying a Benz on Monday despite being behind on child support. Scott called his mom, and it wasn’t because he was being stopped for a burnt tail light. His mother and brother know he owes child support and admit he’s ran before because of it. Scott knows he’s behind on child support and knows he’s been arrested for it before. He now thinks he’s going to be arrested again. He knows he just told the cop hes going to be paying for a Benz on Monday despite being behind on child support. I’m guessing he knew he shouldn’t have said this to the cop because the cop is now doing a computer search in the cop car and going to find a warrant for unpaid child support. There is no warrant and the cop would never know about the unpaid child support and even if he did there is nothing the cop can do about it because there is no warrant. But Scott does not know there is not a warrant and probably got out of the car the first time to try and talk his way out of being arrested after telling the cop he’s buying a car when he owes money. The cop doesn’t allow him to talk to the cop so Scott panics and decides to flee like he’s done in the past. Scott does not expect to be shot because he ran several times before without being shot. But this day is different.

            Scott was arrested a few times for the unpaid child support, so can someone find out if he was violent when he ran or was arrested for it before?

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    • He’s probably been a police informant.

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    • booger71 says:

      Looks like to me he had done plenty wrong..dealing drugs and carrying weapons, I really doubt he has changed his ways. By the way it looks by all the dismissed drug and weapons charges he was a paid police snitch they had to continually keep bailing out of trouble.

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      • Angel Martin says:

        anyone have any idea why the sentencing in the 2011 dope case is suppressed?

        also, in his pistol packing’ days his lawyer was always David Savage. I guess times are tough. More recently it’s been public defender only… although, if you are making a deal as a snitch, why lay out big cash for fancy lawyer as well ?

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      • jj1990 says:

        Dismissed charges implies, I believe, that a judge threw out the charges in open court either on lack of evidence or in exchange for something, like community service, etc. Literally zero evidence to suggest that he is/ was a “paid police snitch.”

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        • lorac says:

          If someone keeps committing the same crime (having a pistol), or crimes in general, it makes no sense to keep dismissing the charges, because they’re obviously not learning to change their behavior.

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        • Angel Martin says:

          Yes, “Pierre” always pleads to a lesser charge. with the other charges, there are various tabs for each case: Case Parties, Charges, Sentencing, Associated Cases etc.

          the difference with the marijuana distribution is that the “Sentencing” tab for that case is disabled. what would be the grounds for withholding that, i thought sentences were public?

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    • realitycheck says:

      “The passenger also hasn’t been in trouble with the law for 4 years. ” Doesn’t necessarily mean he hasn’t been doing illegal things for 4 years.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Maybe he learned from his rookie mistakes.

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      • Canuckster says:

        Agree. But why does it stay in the car then?

        If Scott ran off with some dope he would’ve tossed it and stopped running, resisting.

        Scott has a job, no record for violence, no warrants, and no one runs over a broken tail light. He ran for unpaid child support. He went to jail for it before. He had not paid since 2012. He brother confirmed that’s what he does, he runs.

        Why are people having such a difficult time wondering why he ran?

        No drugs or weapons were found and the car was not stolen or we would’ve heard about this by now.

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        • Would we?

          I’m not so sure. The video of Mike punching the Pakistani shop keeper only came out because the Police chief wished to spite Holder. That got the chief fired.

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          • Canuckster says:

            So the police are withholding the stolen car information to frame the police officer?

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            • 2bn3mr says:

              Withholding from who? The media? You?

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              • Canuckster says:

                If Scott stole the car the police would release this information. If the car was stolen and the police do not release the information, it works against the police officer. In other words they are framing the cop. This is so because the cop is clearly going to say at trial that he believed the car was stolen once Scott ran because the cop told Scott it was a simple burnt tail light issue before returning to his cop car, and no one runs over a burnt tail light. When Scott ran, the cop had reasonable grounds to believe the car was stolen and the drivers licence was not really the person running, and that this person running was running and possibly wanted for some other reason – stealing the car – or worse.

                Scott had the car for days because he took a coworker for a ride in it days before the shooting. If he’s buying it from a neighbour, then there is a 99.9% chance that that neighbour is also a black person, too. Even if Scott had the car without the neighbours permission, do you think the black neighbour is now going to say that Scott, a now dead black man, took the car without permission?

                Of course not, he will say that Scott had the car with his full permission and he thought the owership and insurance was in the car, or simply forgot to give it to Scott. Neither of which is an offence by the neighbour / car owner.

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        • lorac says:

          But all you hear the black community saying anymore is that cops are executing blacks left and right. That’s what amazes me that he ran. You’re more likely to be shot at running, than cooperating in your car. If they’re so sure that cops are itching to shoot them, why do they resist and/or run? Makes no sense.

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        • Monroe says:

          “Why are people having such a difficult time wondering why he ran?”

          Because the cost of Scott’s behavior is so high. One man dead and another man lost his life in another way.

          I think folks want to find some rationale as to why this happened.

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        • treewig says:

          The last 2 times he was busted for unpaid child support he spent a grand total of 1 night in jail. Why would you give your ID to a PO and take off running to avoid spending 1 night in jail?

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          • Canuckster says:

            Again, his own brother admits Walter ran in the past over the unpaid child support issue.

            If he only spends one night in jail over unpaid child support why has he ran in the past?

            There were no drugs or weapons or warrants found.

            Why do people still believe there is something else other than a child support warrant?

            Why would the police not report there was something else if there really were something else?

            Scott told the cop he had cash because he told him he was paying for the car on Monday. Scott thought he was not only going to be arrested but his cash taken which also means his car would be taken because now he has no cash to pay for it.

            Scott did not want to pay for his own kids, he wanted the government to pay for them while he bought himself a Benz so he could look like a big shot in his neighbourhood.

            Why is it in SC you can have a job but they do not garnish your wages to pay child support?

            Why is your driver’s licence not suspended in SC if you have unpaid child support payments?

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        • Judgy says:

          I’m not arguing w/ you, cuz I have NO knowledge of these procedures, but even if Scott had successfully escaped, wouldn’t he have thought there might be a chance they could come get him later, if he was under the assumption he DID have a warrant out? (I honestly do not know this stuff). I think I mean to ask, are you saying Scott might believe that the officer could assume the driver’s license wasn’t really him, so would let the whole thing, now escalated by running, just slide??

          (Ugh, now I’m not even sure if I’m asking this clearly! Thanks, though!).

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          • Canuckster says:

            I obvious can’t speak for Walter, but I think he thought he was about to be arrested at 9:30 am on a Saturday morning which more than like meant he was not going to get out of jail until at least Monday, and probably longer if there were a bench warrant. So he probably ran and was going to turn himself in on a weekday so he could get out the same day or the next day. Or maybe he wasn’t going to turn himself in at all, I don’t know, but the police knew where to find Walter even before they stopped him because he wasn’t hiding, he had a valid driver licence with his address registered, he worked, paid income tax and was findable if they were looking for him.

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      • kathyca says:

        Could mean he was out of state and/or in jail for 4 years. Seems most likely to me considering his rap sheet.

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    • jj1990 says:

      Thank you for offering a reasonable interpretation of the few things we do know. As you say, he may be “no angel” but the passenger did the right thing and we shouldn’t slam him. I also don’t feel comfortable theorizing about drug involvement on the part of a now-deceased man based simply on the fact that his passenger pled guilty to possession 12 years ago, when he was 18.

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  10. zephyrbreeze says:

    In white middle-class NJ, if you are caught getting gas with a firearm in your vehicle, in between home and the gun range, you are looking at years in jail. Years. The law says the firearm has to go directly from the home to the gun range and back, no stopping whatsoever.

    Seems like carrying guns illegally in SC is not a big deal.

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  11. jc says:

    One cop, two passengers, one with a guns and drugs pattern, what are the odds there was something illegal in the car

    the whole thing was soooo stupid otherwise

    at this point the officials probably don’t want to find anything pointing a finger at Scott,look how Fergy officials got lambasted for showing the strong arm robbery of St BIG MIKE

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  12. ncobserver says:

    If you have ever read the Charleston Thug Life website it seems that dismissal of charges is a common occurrence down in that area.

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  13. BertDilbert says:

    “Distribution of Crack Cocaine (reduced to possession of crack”

    Scott would run if he had some rocks on him.

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  14. Lol! The man from work eh?

    A likely story.

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  15. MP says:

    Bottomline, overcharging Slager with murder and not manslaughter is a legal mistake. There was no premeditation of murder, the act of shooting Scott was intertwined with the life and death struggle moments before. The shooting appears to be a continuation of the fight and not a clear cut case of murder. Obviously, Slager had the option of continuing the foot pursuit or allow the suspect to escape and de-escalate the confrontation. However, he chose to use deadly force with the perp that is clearly fleeing the scene. Having a life and death struggle with someone is an emotionally charged event. Human nature being what is, you just can’t turn it off in a split second and start thinking rationally. Your brain has to have a few moments to decompress and see things in proper perspective. As an analogy, if you are a soldier involved in an intense firefight for a few minutes and you witness your buddies getting shot or killed by the enemy. Moments later, you see one of the enemy soldiers running away from the battlefield. Clearly, not posing an immediate threat to you, do you shoot the enemy in the back? Ah, hell yeah. The enemy could easily turnaround and shoot you. The enemy could also take cover and then shoot you while you advance. As long as the enemy is alive, he is a threat; unless he clearly surrenders. What happened to Slager is much the same. They went through a very brief life and death struggle, fear and adrenaline is still running through Slager’s mind, what he did was almost very natural. He terminated the threat when he had the first opportunity to do so when they disengaged from their physical struggle on the ground. It didn’t matter if Scott was running away, in Slager’s mind, he was still a threat because he did not have his hands up nor did he give a signal that he was willing to give up, he just ran. In Scott’s mind at the moment, he could have surrendered, but when he realized that he was not able to inflict serious harm on Slager, instinctually he ran away, he didn’t want to chance getting beat up by Slager while in handcuffs if he wanted some “pay back.” I don’t hear anyone criticizing Scott for not surrendering when he had the chance. In the end, resisting arrest, fighting with a police officer is never a good idea….

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  16. aprilyn43 says:

    Well, well, well… Surprise! Surprise! Wow, what a revelation, never would have guessed that (sarc.. sarc.. ). Blacks are making it so hard for Liberals to paint them as victims.

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  17. Lee says:

    Neither of them behave a like a genius – maybe the passenger is a little more lazy – got away with it so many times before – why bother with going to the trouble of running. Has anyone release any information regarding the vehicle…i.e. actual owners, forensics, a search? Curious?

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  18. True Colors says:

    The passenger was relaxed because he knew that any contraband found in the car could easily be pinned on the driver.

    TC

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  19. Here is some great evidence for a society in free fall.

    The dead perp is arrest 11 times for arrears in child support. One wonders how an impecunious bum like this could have paid off the cash he did pay off. He’s discharged from the military over drug dealing. He’s in a car (that he has no insurance for, that he doesn’t own) sitting next to a convicted armed robber, gun smuggler, cocaine dealer. Both men have never really faced the consequences for breaking the law given their excused and dismissed charges.

    And somehow the street cop who actually runs into them is rotting in jail.

    How much revenue have these two dirtbags cost tax payers already?

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    • The court system is really putting us all in more danger than I’d hitherto understood.

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    • ButterCookie77 says:

      Great point, Captain John

      We saw this with Traythug and Saint Michael. The communist revolutionaries cry so much about how the police are “out of control”, but are never interested in addressing crimminal behavior itself. White liberals have coddled blacks and excused their dysfunction for so long that blacks really do believe that they are above the law.

      I’m a black woman saying this, and imagine how much flack I recieve each time I focus on facts instead of blindly following the “negro script”.

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      • Generally black women are a cut above the menfolk.

        I didn’t intend that particular remark to be racial either. Although I’m prone to a race realist position not that time at least.

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      • Justice_099 says:

        That’s what burns me the most. Exactly what you said about receiving flack. YOU are the brave one. So many call it racist that whites WANT to see blacks succeed. They want them to live good lives and raise decent families, get good jobs, etc… But those are the ones called racists. We can’t offer solutions, we can’t point out truths. We just have to enable or be quiet.

        I can only hope that I will see the day when color truly just doesn’t matter. But it is going to take brave people like you growing in numbers and speaking out and making an example for the rest of the world.

        I have black people in my family. They are decent hard working folks, but I see their kids getting pulled into this dark world all the time with peer pressures to be ‘more black.’ My 8yo niece was jumped by a group of black kids because she was acting ‘too white’ and they stole her bike. It makes me sick to think ‘acting black’ must mean being a thug. But that’s what so many role models in the black community are pushing.

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        • ButterCookie77 says:

          Thank you.

          Very sad about your niece, but violence and debouchery is what has become of blacks. I make no bones about distancing myself from bunches of blacks, and what many of them don’t realize is that its not blacks that I want distance from; its another breed of blacks (I won’t say the word here). We really are seperate from them-not by skin color, but culture.

          The number factor contributing to black dysfunction is single mother homes. Blacks tend not to marry and we will have out of wedlock children as if its normal. Couple that with no man in sight to rear the children or add additional income and you get generations of poverty, welfare, crime, more crime, and a repeat of this pattern.

          I love my new family here on Conservative Treehouse. When the Walter Scott shooting broke, I thought to myself, “Surely there is at least ONE sane internet site that I can gain new insights from…and voila.

          I want my white friends here to know something very, very real. Black people have ENOUGH excuses and do not need to be coddled. The liberals/ marxists have done a fine job of that and look where we are now. If you are ever in an argument or debate with a white marxist or a black victim and the issue of slavery comes up s an excuse, ask them this:

          If slavery is indeeed the root cause of black modern day dysfunction, explain why dysfunction LEAP FROGGED 100 yrs from the Civil War to the 1960’s. During this 100 yr period, blacks were college educated, lead the nation in marriage and 2 parent homes, and held positions in Congress, all during a time of REAL racism (KKK and Jim Crow). Shouldn’t dysfunction have showed up in these blacks, who lived much closer to the time of slavery.

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          • Dixie says:

            I had to sign in to “like” your comment. Well said.

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          • yakmaster2 says:

            I never thought about your point regarding the leap frogging of modern day dysfunction in Black culture, even though I have noticed values have changed in my own lifetime. (I had always wondered if certain types of music contributed to it.)
            Anyway, I appreciate it when others recognize that a person can dislike something in another culture that has nothing to do with the skin COLOR of those within that culture. The Left does not recognize that concept. For example: To Liberals, my dislike of Sharia Law probably means I’m “Islamophobic.” My dislike of certain types of lyrics in Hip Hop or hearing it full blast from woofers must mean I’m racist. But in my mind, it has nothing to do with race or religion categorically. ☺

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          • nimrodman says:

            ButterCookie77 posed the conundrum: “If slavery is indeed the root cause of black modern day dysfunction, explain why dysfunction LEAP FROGGED 100 yrs from the Civil War to the 1960’s. During this 100 yr period, blacks were college educated, lead the nation in marriage and 2 parent homes, and held positions in Congress, all during a time of REAL racism (KKK and Jim Crow).”

            You’ve posed a conundrum that contains its own answer.

            The answer is that “slavery IS NOT the root cause of black modern day dysfunction.”

            That premise is a canard. A fallacy.

            And your description that “dysfunction LEAP FROGGED 100 yrs from the Civil War to the 1960’s” is colorful and instantly rings true to all of us (as per the agreement you got in several comments).

            But it’s not quite true. Black dysfunction wasn’t caused in the time of slavery and then leapfrogged to the 1960s.

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            • nimrodman says:

              Black dysfunction was fertilized and bloomed in the 1960s for several reasons that parallel dysfunction in American society as a whole, including whites. The dysfunction in black society has become more pathologic, also for several reasons.

              PERMISSIVENESS – In the 1950s children were raised strictly and were polite, saying yes ma’am and no sir. In the mid-to-late 60s that kind of responsible upbringing started to be eroded. By the end of the 70s it was largely a memory for many.

              DIVORCE – Divorce became more acceptable from the mid-60s onward, with the number of single-parent (mother) families becoming greater and greater.

              “GREAT SOCIETY” PROGRAMS – Welfare, food stamps, housing, cash assistance, etc., are what maintain the single-parent households. Raising children became a taxpayer expense rather than a husband-has-a-job expense.

              LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY – Just as many in society became no longer accountable for paying their own bills and paying to raise their own children, lack of accountability spread to social behavior generally. All sorts of excuses began to be made for various behaviors, and quite often it became “not my fault” and of course “somebody else’s fault.”

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              • nimrodman says:

                Now – introduce into that milleiu a concerted effort to indoctrinate you blacks with the idea that any woes they might have were “somebody else’s fault.” Specifically, slavery and whites who had held slaves.

                Many of us recall the mid-60s civil rights struggles and I think most Americans recognize that it was a just struggle that brought about largely positive results.

                But at the tail end of that movement came the seeds of black radicalism that have largely governed black culture since that period, feeding ever-more pathological dysfunction (as ButterCookie said, blacks acting too responsibly and insufficiently thug-like are called “too white”).

                And we have what we have today. Among some elements of black society misbehavior, criminality, irresponsibility, lack of accountability, and inability to work, pay their own bills, and pull their own societal weight are rampant. America has bred a pathological underclass.

                Again, as ButterCookie said: “During this 100 yr period, blacks were college educated, lead the nation in marriage and 2 parent homes, and held positions in Congress …”

                Yes. Correct. Blacks had intact family structure and were a functioning part of working society. For 100 years.

                But slavery wasn’t the cause of black dysfunction, and it didn’t “leapfrog” 100 years.

                The breakdowns in societal accountability mid-60s to present fostered modern black dysfunction and loosed it on modern American society.

                Those breakdowns injured black society out of all proportion because of the ready-made excuses: “not my fault” and “because slavery.”

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                • nimrodman says:

                  1st paragraph prior comment: “… concerted effort to indoctrinate YOUNG blacks”

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                • nimrodman says:

                  And I apologize whole-heartedly for that initial typo. Without the correction it reads horrendously (“you blacks” ), which would never be my intent.

                  I’m now quite embarrassed that some will react to that and be steam-out-the-ears furious until they get down to my correction. It would be beers on me, were we in the same tavern.

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        • crossthread42 says:

          Tank you very much, I hope to one day relate My observation on this exact thing..

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        • georgiafl says:

          Well, Obama, Holder and Sharpton have NOT been good role models for black kids/teens…or a blessing to the adults.

          Obama’s policies and ideologies (Islam and Marxism and thuggery) are the opposite of good.

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      • Monroe says:

        ButterCookie77

        What’s sad is that the media focuses so much on these situations and showing video of black people looting and firebombing that I think that these behaviors become generalized and attributed to everyone in the black community.

        This is unfair because I don’t think this behavior represents the black community. These so called advocacy groups stand behind and encourage the bad behavior supposedly under the guise of helping. So many people profit, including some in the black community at the expense of the black community.

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        • ButterCookie77 says:

          Absolutely true.

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          • BertDilbert says:

            But the worst part of it all, example Ferguson, is the national media broadcasting blacks behaving poorly. Burning, looting, and acting bad mannerly. All this does is enforce bad images and stereotypes. Every protest ends up pushing black people back, not moving them forward and the good blacks end up suffering in some shape or form.

            Another problem is the agitators latch on to positions before vetting them. The Mike Brown incident was a hoax on black people. So was Trayvon Martin. The facts are withheld and spun falsehoods are placed out there and then when not guilty is the final word people feel the system is unjust.

            And these hoaxes are promoted by… People that the black community look up to as leaders! Blacks need new leaders that are not taking them down this same old tired path to nowhere.

            Unfortunately, promoting injustice causes people to become emotional and when people become emotional that is when the wallet opens up. The same injustice scenario works with white people too. That is how the little pizza place was able to raise 840k through Go Fund Me in two days. It is the same reason George Zimmerman raised a substantial amount of money for his living expenses and defense. When people see an injustice it is a sure fire money raiser.

            If blacks were to realize they are just getting played for the money and the outcome is an overall disservice to them, perhaps then we could make forward progress.

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            • ButterCookie77 says:

              Yes! Recently I watched a documentary called Communism and the Civil Rights movement”. I really need a thread going on that one! It literally blew me away. It was Lenin who saw the freed but poor black sharecroppers after slavery and said of them “The American Negro is RIPE for a revolution!” When the cultural marxists descended upon us, they realized the need to expand Federal Government power, and did so through the “Civil Rights” Act. Not only did it restrict the fReedom of association, it also ended what was known as “private property rights”. THIS is why Republican Barry Goldwater did mot sign, and have finally understood why.

              “We shall overcome” is an old, used slogan, said time and time agian, each time communists took over a nation (China, Argentina, etc)

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          • mikayla825 says:

            Welcome to the Treehouse!
            pssst…..Butter Cookies have always been my favorite, and I know what I’m talking about Cookie was my very first word I’m told 🙂

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      • notasmidgeon says:

        Thank you for speaking out.

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  20. nivico says:

    Keep in mind the criminal records linked to above are just the Charleston County records…

    …and they may just represent the tip of the iceberg.

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  21. Vera says:

    “North Charleston fired Slager last week after he was charged with murder in Scott’s death. A cellphone video emerged showing him shooting at Scott’s back eight times. Scott did not appear armed in the footage.”

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/white-officer-charged-in-south-carolina-mans-slaying-wont-face-death-penalty-paper/ar-AAaXdJ3?ocid=iehp

    “Scott did NOT APPEAR ARMED in the footage.”

    That is the first time that I’ve read something that opened the door to the possibility that Scott had a weapon. Is your research and analysis about the Taser getting out there?

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  22. medtech says:

    some people are just runners. it’s in their nature

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIvu1yg3bU

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    • Monroe says:

      It always seems to be about excuses. I understand an adolescent running. But a 50yo man with Coast Guard service and 4 kids should know better. Society gives these behaviors a pass and in the long wrong it causes more harm.

      Scott placed himself in a dangerous situation and within seconds a responsible member of society made what appears to be a fatal mistake.

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  23. medtech says:

    it’s possible scott thought he had outstanding warrants. in my business dealings i’ve had to call the sheriff’s office on behalf of black men and ask if they had outstanding warrants. they were to ‘scared’ to call themselves.

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    • Justice_099 says:

      Does it really matter? He would have outstanding warrants for breaking the law. And by running he broke even worse laws. By assaulting the cop, even WORSE laws.

      So what’s the point?

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    • art tart says:

      medtech ~ I agree that Scott could have thought he had an open warrant for the child support, he knew hadn’t paid since 2012, he had been to jail several times for the same thing.

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  24. Concerned says:

    Daily Mail article: Meanwhile, the man who was in the car when Walter Scott was flagged down by police before being gunned down was identified today as drifter Pierre Fulton. The 30-year-old was detained by police as Walter fled his Mercedes Benz before dying in a hail of bullets and later released. Pierre’s family said they had no idea why he was in the car and how he came to be friends with the shooting victim. His grand mother Eunice Fulton, 70, said: ‘I spoke with my daughter Franetta on Thursday and Pierre had only just told her he was in the car. ‘It was a terrible incident but we haven’t had the chance to speak to him about it. He used to live with me until a couple of years ago. But I don’t where he hangs out now. He moves around.’ […] His grandmother added: ‘He is a good grandson. He cares for his family. But I don’t know what he is doing now.’ Pierre has worked as a cleaner, laundry man and warehouseman over the years, but some members of his family have lost touch with him. Rosanne Grant of Alternative Staffing employment agency told Daily Mail Online: ‘ He worked at various jobs over the period of a year through me. The last time I hear about him was in 2006 and nothing since. I don’t know what he has been working at.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3037543/He-watch-s-lot-angry-men-black-white-reveals-released-prisoner-jail-accused-killer-South-Carolina-cop-banned-seeing-newborn-baby-day.html

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    • doodahdaze says:

      OMG what a guy.

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    • Concerned says:

      It’s interesting to note that the town where Pierre’s mother lives (according to records on the internet) is directly adjacent to North Charleston. The family has “lost touch” with him?

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      “I don’t where he hangs out now. He moves around.’ […] His grandmother added: ‘He is a good grandson. He cares for his family. But I don’t know what he is doing now.’” But he is a good grandson and he cares for his family. SMH

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    • Serpentor says:

      “He is a good grandson”

      While this certainly might be true in this instance (though his criminal record would conflict), I have to point it out – Every single time it’s the same comments. He a good boy. He diddu nuffin.

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    • nimrodman says:

      “Pierre’s family said they had no idea why he was in the car and how he came to be friends with the shooting victim.”

      Wait – didn’t he work the same place as Scott? He was a “co-worker” right?

      At least according to what we’ve heard from Julison’s script through Scott’s family or spokespersons.

      Right?

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  25. Yogi says:

    Tonight on Nbc with Lestor Holt, they had 2 black guys on there saying they have been tased by Off. Slager in the past. Reporter asked.. Did it hurt when you got tased? Black guy…. Yea, it hurt real bad……………………..NAW!!!!!!! Really. Cant make this stuff up……………… P.S.Q uit breaking the law and you wont get tased

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  26. James F says:

    A new “victim” of “The evil racist taser abuser” Slager has crawled out from under a rock to cash in on his newfound victimhood. It looks like every black criminal who ever interacted with Slager is jumping on the bandwagon.

    Authorities have released dash camera footage from North Charleston police cruisers showing Michael Slager tasing a man following a traffic stop in 2014.

    The newly released videos shows Slager responding to a traffic stop in North Charleston to assist an officer.

    At one point during the video, officers are seen attempting to get the driver, identified as Julius Wilson, out of the car. The video shows Slager tasing Wilson after officers remove him from the car.

    On Monday, Wilson’s lawyer said his client’s civil rights were violated in the traffic stop. Wilson’s lawyers announced last week they were filing a lawsuit against Slager for the August 2014 incident.

    Read more: http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/28789384/man-files-lawsuit-against-michael-slager-for-excessive-force-in-2014-traffic-stop#ixzz3XEiE5l5a

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  27. Sha says:

    I keep wondering if Scott ran because he was trying to get the Policeman away from the car so the passenger could get rid of something , something that could get them both a lot of jail time.

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    • Concerned says:

      That sounds very very reasonable.

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    • Canuckster says:

      There is no way Scott could know if the cop would chase Scott. Instead of chasing Scott the cop could’ve just went to the passenger who the cop already knew was still in the car.

      If Scott had drugs or a weapon with him when he ran he had a pretty good lead on the cop and could’ve tossed it and stopped running further down the road. Had the cops later found drugs or a weapon along the route Scott could deny it was his.

      The cops searched the car, the passenger, Scott’s body, and the entire area he ran through and found absolutely nothing.

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      • Sha says:

        Your right that could be the case but I would go after the one running because I would want to know what he had to hide not the guy sitting still in front of my camera on the car. Criminals are sharp and the passenger is not a amateur at getting off on charges. I find it strange that he just sat there while all that was going on with out even trying to see anything.

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        • Canuckster says:

          I believe he just sat there because he did nothing wrong. Would you leave the car is you didn’t do anything wrong? I wouldn’t. This was Scott’s problem not the passengers.

          The passenger knew who Scott was, (didn’t he?) so the cop could’ve just grabbed the passenger and found out who the driver was from the passenger. The passenger could say I don’t know who he is because he just picked me up as I was hitch hiking.

          And maybe that’s what he said, I don’t know. But if they knew each other, then the passengers knows what Scott was going to say to the cop when he first got out of the car, because Scott probably told him, I’m going to be arrested for unpaid child support.

          And he probably also knows why Scott ran from the car because Scott probably told him, I’m going to be arrested. If this goes to trial I bet that’s what the passenger is going to say, that Scott ran because he thought he was going to be arrested for unpaid child support. And since the car wasn’t actually Scott’s yet, Walter did not have to worry about going to the cop shop to pick it up later.

          The passenger also heard the conversation between Scott and his mom, and I bet Scott told her I’m going to run.

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      • John Galt says:

        “The cops searched the car, the passenger, Scott’s body, and the entire area he ran through and found absolutely nothing.”

        So they gave you a copy of the investigation file?

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        • Canuckster says:

          I’m sure cops wondered why he ran to, since it’s just a burnt tail light issue. I’m going to guess they suspected drugs or gun as well, and searched not only those items mentioned, but also the roof of the auto part building, since it appears Scott rounded the corner of the building before the cop manged to round it too, which could’ve given Scott a few seconds to throw a gun up on top.

          But maybe cops didn’t search anything. Maybe running because of a burnt tail light is common in SC. I’m in Ontario, and you don’t even get a ticket for this. You are given a ticket and 48 hours to fix it and show up at the cop shop to show cops it’s fixed. If you show the ticket is ripped up, and if you do not show up, then the ticket takes effects.

          I’d bet, without knowing, its the same thing in SC because a driver does not know a light is burnt out until someone tells them, since most cars do not have a warning to let the driver inside a car know a light is burnt. Therefore, Scott was probably not even going to a ticket that he had to actually pay, he would’ve just had to fix the light – a light that needed fixing anyway.

          He was also stopped in an auto parts store. But to me he wasn’t stopping there to get the light bulb because he did not pull up in front of the store before stopping and he did not tell the cop, hey, I know about the light that’s why I pulled in here to the auto part store. If the tail light glass was actually broken, to which the cop was referring to, and not just a light bulb burnt out, then Scott would already know about this broken glass because he claims he just bought the car and he would’ve done a circle check of the car before agreeing to buy it. But he doesn’t mention knowledge of the broken glass to the cop.

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        • DT says:

          There was some statement to the effect of the passenger being detained but not charged or something along those lines. That gives food for thought about what may have been found in the car. I do think if there was anything found that counters the media narrative, it will not be blasted to the public.

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  28. archer52 says:

    I put up a long post that did not make it apparently. I am very happy you guys are on this to mitigated what is a bad shoot.

    In this day and age, or in any day and age, you cannot shoot a fleeing non-violent felon. The guy wasn’t so much trying to hurt the officer as trying to get away.
    I’ve had that very experience more than once. Most I caught, a couple got away. I never entertained shooting them. I knew who they were and got them later.

    Hell, I had one doper jump off a second story balcony to get away from me, and he did. That was after a wrestling match on the ground, and I didn’t shoot him. I just got a warrant and the SO got him two weeks later.

    Yes, the traffic stop was hinky. The car was bad, he had no insurance and he didn’t want to go back to jail for child support. (A argument for another day about the criminalization of civil actions!)

    The trouble is the police training is tainted by the desire to survive beyond anything else, and it makes us too quick to the gun. I talked with my trainer buddy about this and he thinks it was a mental processing problem. The officer went into “I’m in trouble mode” and made the decision to fire and couldn’t undo it. OR, he’s an idiot who thinks killing the guy was a good idea.

    Either way, he’s screwed. He has to go to jail for at least manslaughter. It is more political now than ever. And it reminds me every day I’m glad I’m out of the business. I loved helping people. But truthfully, too many don’t want it, and far too many want to hurt you.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      They ain’t got him yet.

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    • Concerned says:

      A lot of people wrote off Zimmerman too, and look what happened. In the end, logic and reason prevailed. The Treehouse has a good record. There is much more evidence yet to be seen.

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    • coeurdaleneman says:

      The characterization of Scott as a “non-violent” felon misses the mark so far that I quit reading. Scott intentionally did this officer harm.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Just another one of the famous “dindunuthins,” “wouldn’t hurt a fly,” “a delight to be around,” “changing his life around.”

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      • archer52 says:

        You should have kept reading. “non-violent” includes in today’s environment people who resist the police physically. Why? Because the sixties hippies grew up and changed society. You may not like it, but it is the reality we live in. Ferguson burnt to the ground and almost every person in authority looked the other way when the police and the citizens should have shot every Molotov cocktail throwing one of them in the head.

        But they didn’t because our society has created a different set of rules. The police have forever fought against the “anti-hero” mentality that permeates American society. Everybody knows Billy the Kid and loves the myth, nobody like Pat Garrett, who realized for the crime and killing to stop, he had to take Billy out- and did. He is thought to be a bad guy, Billy the hero.

        John Dillinger. Bonnie and Clyde. Bill Ayers blows up buildings as a college student in an attempt to destroy America, and he now influences education in Illinois and is a friend of the President of the United States.

        You may want to live in a different society, but you don’t. And the rules pertaining to “non-violent” have changed since my first time in police work in 1977. Back then the entire report of this shooting would have consisted of “He shouldn’t have tried to run. Then end.”

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        • nimrodman says:

          Archer52 said: “non-violent” includes in today’s environment people who resist the police physically. Why? Because the sixties hippies grew up and changed society.

          Right on target, Archer, thanks. I touched on some similar themes upthread in a series of much wordier posts.

          But you’ve boiled it down to 2 sentences. Well done.

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  29. sundance says:

    Who sold Walter Scott the Car?

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    • Les says:

      Anybody have Walter Scott’s address? That would help find a neighbor.

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    • Canuckster says:

      The car was never sold. Scott says he was going to buy it Monday after first claiming he already bought it. Since Scott had not paid for it and did not have the ownership the original owner still owns it.

      Where is the car now?

      I’m sure the real owner has picked it up by now…

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      • James F says:

        His family claims he bought the car last week and already bought shiny new rims for it. And now they are saying he was on his way to buy parts because it was in need of repair. Haven’t you heard?

        Scott was buying a nearly 25-year-old Mercedes-Benz sedan from a neighbor, and he knew in advance that it needed a few repairs. But it was still better than his van, a beater that would break down on the way to his job as a forklift operator in a distribution warehouse.

        So that Saturday morning he jumped into his car, picked up a friend from work and headed to an auto-parts store a few miles away. He called his girlfriend: He wouldn’t be long.
        http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-drew-together-ordinary-lives-driver-officer-143813732.html

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        • kathyca says:

          laughable. Let me quess, he lost his job as a forklift operator because the beater kept breaking down. He intended to go to the auto parts store, it just doesn’t happen to be where he pulled in (notice he didn’t pull into a spot). And why, again, do you need to pick up a criminal 20 years your junior to go to the auto parts store at 9:30 in the morning on a Saturday when you’re going back to your baby mama (pardon me, your girlfriend/fiancé/special beloved one or whatever) in “not long?” For the love…this reminds me of talking to my teenager who can’t seem to be convinced that I wasn’t born yesterday.

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          • James F says:

            I’m surprised Julison didn’t embellish further and claim he was picking up a new break light. Then they planned to go to the jeweler to pick up his dead grandmothers wedding ring that he was having refitted for his fiancé. That is why nobody saw a ring on her finger yet.

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        • John Galt says:

          “He called his girlfriend”

          Stick with the BGI script: he called his beloved fiancee.

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      • James F says:

        According to James Johnson, president of the local branch of the National Action Network, Scott bought the vehicle just three days before the shooting.

        After buying it, he also purchased a set of silver rims that he placed on the wheels, which has led the Scott family to believe that racial profiling was the reason for the traffic stop.

        “His brother told him that he would be a target for putting those rims on that car,” Johnson said. “He bought the car, the next day he bought the rims. Then, two days later, he was pulled over and he was killed.”

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/04/08/how-video-of-the-fatal-south-carolina-police-shooting-reignites-the-body-camera-debate/

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        • Canuckster says:

          So the passenger is a coworker.

          If Scott bought the car he would already have the ownership papers, but he doesn’t have them with him. Why not, right? He’s put new wheels on a car he legally still does not own.

          He said he was going to go Monday to pay for it or to switch the registration, I can’t remember, but I bet there will now also be a fight over who really owns the car – the Scott family or the neighbour.

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        • kathyca says:

          So clearly the brother got the brains. And I would say drug dealer profiling…but that’s just me.

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    • Stormy says:

      Can you FOIA a car title? Do we have the VIN # to the mercedes, yet?

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  30. georgiafl says:

    Oklahoma cop being charged in a taser/gun incident – he got the gun mixed up with the taser and shot someone.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/04/13/evening-news-roundup-monday/25714951/

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  31. Wouldn’t it be ironic if it was someone that could no longer report it missing… There would STILL be people defending Scott’s run for freedom

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