Two Teens Murder Saint Louis Bosnian Visitor With Hammers – Police Do Not Release Motive…

Police say “motive not released”.  Gee, I wonder why.  However, if the method sounds familiar, it should (see here).  And (See Here) and Justice for Trayvon (see here)

Louis head 2ST. LOUIS (AP) – Two juveniles are in custody in St. Louis after a Florida man was beaten to death with hammers.

Police say 32-year-old Zemir Begic of Miami suffered injuries to his head, abdomen, face and mouth in the attack. He was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Authorities say Begic was in his car about 1:15 a.m. Sunday when several young people approached and began damaging it. When Begic got out, he was attacked with at least two hammers.  The two juveniles in custody are ages 15 and 16. A motive for the attack has not been released.  (link(additional report here)

update-1UPDATE:  This is about to get VERY UGLY – The Bosnian Community is active and engaged in Saint Louis.

update-1In 2012 A group of five black males murdered a white twenty year old pizza delivery man, Daniil Maksimenko, in what the race censoring media called an “attempted robbery”. However, no money was taken.

The victim was a Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina). The murder took place in a 97% black census track near Martin Luther King Dr in the Hillsdale area. Police believed that the suspects ordered a pizza to a neighbor’s address. When the victim arrived, they shot him while he was still sitting in his car. The suspects then left.

A police officer on duty later spotted the victim’s car drifting across the middle of the road. The driver was unconscious with a gunshot wound to the head. He later died at the hospital. The Murder was a racially motivated “Thrill Killing”.  (link)

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293 Responses to Two Teens Murder Saint Louis Bosnian Visitor With Hammers – Police Do Not Release Motive…

  1. rumpole2 says:

    Ah I see the problem.. he got outta his car.. probably white to boot.

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    • dandtoy says:

      Eric Holder… Op #DarkAndFurious

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    • canadacan says:

      Elementary my dear Richard

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    • Irish Eyes says:

      Note the headline on the first picture above, from Fox: “Man dies after being struck by hammers.” Sounds like hammers just flew through the air by unknown means and accidentally happened to strike him.

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    • Elspeth says:

      Reginald Denny.

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    • James F says:

      Funny how none of the MSM news stories are emphasizing he was an unarmed white man the same way brown is always mentioned as an “unarmed black teen.”

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      This was a dumb move by these safari savages.

      1). Eastern Europeans are not to be toyed with. Get their attention one time too many, and you’ve got a very pissed-off, very brave badass at your throat. The slow-witted safari savages are no match for these guys.

      2). This is the second time they’ve done this in that area. The savages now have the negative attention mentioned above. Big mistake.

      3). Safari savages show their usual gross stupidity when picking on any tightly knit ethnicity. Those ethnicities have a network and a centralized means of knowing and reaching out to a lot of people of the same ethnicity, unlike your average Joe-Blow Heinz 57 white dude. Those ethnicities are or can become organized to fight back very quickly and efficiently. Many of their foes just disappear. Poof! Gone.

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      • angie says:

        The attackers had better hope that these people are not connected in any way to the Russian or Eastern European mobs. They make the American mafia look like boy scouts. These guys won’t just take out the guilty, they will wipe out whole families.

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    • The media is in full blown cover up mode. Such lies, its disgraceful. The “teens” had just been coming from a Michael Brown rally and set upon thsi young man for no other reason then his white skin. Everyone knows it but the newspapers it seems. They were SCREAMING “kill whitey” and “Fuc_ white people” right befoe they killed this man but don’t worry, the newspapers and the Chief of Police can assure you that it isn’t race related. In fact, they don’t have any clue whatsoever about why this happened or what the motives were but the ONE THING they do know off tops is that it isn’t related to race. What a joke. I am so tired of being lied to by the people who are supposed to be in charge of protecting us. Then to top it all off they want to take away our right to own guns so that these kind of attacks can be accelerated and they can complete their plans of replacing the historic majority white American populace with third world turds who vote Democrat straight down the ticket as long as their monthly “gibs me thats” keep coming. For your viewing pleasure, here is a video of an eye witness on teh scene before and after the attack. She mentions in the video that the kids were screaming about killing white people and you can be sure that Police interviewed her and she told them that. Then the Police Chief insults our intelligence and LIES to us by telling us it wasn’t racially motivated. We need to cal for his resignation IMMEDIATELY. If the races were reversed they would already be calling for his pink slip.

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    • Jan Reither says:

      Does anyone remember the young blonde girl was crossing the street at the Broadway Oyster Bar. 2 black men floored the car went through the red light hit and killed the young woman. They said she flew 80 ft, how fast that car must have been traveling. I think of her all the time, especially because I feel it was a Hate Crime. So sad.

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  2. McGuffin says:

    Dear Lord

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  3. GaninsDad says:

    Time to take back St. Louis , from this scum. Ride loaded!

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  4. MTeresa says:

    Nothing to see here……move along.

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  5. jason says:

    no motive, no perp descriptions.

    RIP Zemir 😦

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  6. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
    And then they wonder why we don’t trust them!

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  7. MaryfromMarin says:

    “May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.”

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  8. Mr. Izz says:

    I’m sick. I’m incredibly angry. I’m very upset… and there doesn’t seem like there is anything I can do to change things. The roots of this violence go all the way to the top. I may need to take a leave of absence from this website. I read everything on here. Every page, every comment, every morsel of information available. I then go to a news organization (pick one, I read them all), and I can’t believe the articles, the comments, the ignorance, the hate, the racism, and the complete and utter blind bias.

    This is not the America of which I want to be a citizen. This isn’t freedom, or justice, or independence, or any other moral we used to protect at all costs. This is anarchy, mob rule, propaganda, and blatant corruption. It feels like the beginning of the end of what could have been the greatest nation of all time. I can’t remember the last time I was proud to be an American. These days, I just hope we don’t embarrass ourselves (we fail a lot). Progress has been halted, our money is going to programs that don’t give back and aren’t improving, and no one wants to take responsibility or fix it. Why? Because it will upset their political base. Puppets run this country. Rich puppets that want to stay rich puppets.

    I’m hopeful that maybe things will change in two months with a new Congress, but it is unlikely. We’ve gone so far down the rabbit hole that we can’t find our way out. Maybe a revolution is in order.

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    • Lou says:

      kids aren’t victims these days. when we were kids, if we acted up we were paddled. I know a lot of people disagree with the Public School System and paddling etc, but someone has to take charge because many of these parents are irresponsible. this is the road Trayvon should have gone down getting paddled and humiliated. too many kids rights these days, too much overpopulation, kids eating junk food and too must distrust and this is what you get.

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      • michellc says:

        It wasn’t even that most of us were receiving a paddle on the backside, the threat of being paddled was enough to keep the majority of us in line.
        Then of course we also knew what was waiting for us at home if we did get paddled at school.
        Teachers could actually punish us and they were in charge and we respected that. Today kids aren’t truly punished, they’re suspended, which for many of them is a celebration of no school. They get in house suspension, which anymore in a lot of schools is basically free days with no class. Unlike when I went to school, in house suspension for most kids was even worse than being paddled. The rest of us laughed at them as they followed their assigned teacher to the cafeteria and sat at the teacher’s table and sat there until she/he was ready to leave then they went back to the room they spent with just her all day, not only doing their regular assignments but extra workloads for their punishment.
        Then you have parents who instead of punishing their children for getting in trouble at school, blame the school and throw a fit because they picked on their perfect child.

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        • angie says:

          On the first day of 7th grade, our History teacher said, “The school board says teachers can’t paddle students anymore but they didn’t say anything about throwing a dictionary.” Swear to God, that was 44 years ago and I remember every word. Her dictionary was about 4 or 5 inches thick. There were zero discipline problems in that class.

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    • Menagerie says:

      In two months, if you do not hold your Congressmen and women and senators feet to the fire, nothing will change.Call, email, be engaged.

      Go local. Attend council meetings. Write letters to the editor. Raise issues to friends and family. Confront the local media when they misrepresent the truth, or fail to cover a story. Comment on their Facebook page.

      Do whatever you can to wake people from their stupor. Then pray.

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      • Dems B. Dcvrs says:

        We need to hold the biological begetters of these miscreants criminally responsible.
        Problem is a complete lack of Parents and abundance of worthless breeders.

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    • Daniel says:

      There is a select group of people who call their anger “justified” and their criminal activity “understandable.” The cases against these murderous felons are often settled without convictions or with extremely light sentences under far lesser charges. The vast majority of these people are from effectively parentless [parents/authority absent] households. The state is their parenting and the state messes 100% of everything it does up. And when the state enables, understands and forgives this behavior, they will take that and run with it.

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  9. James F says:

    They just kids, babies without guns.

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  10. BigMamaTEA says:

    This kind of stuff filters to St Louise, through Shadid, et al. Farrakhan has hated Obie since he took out his personal friend and banker Qaddafi.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/29/farrakhan-on-ferguson-well-tear-this-gdamn-country-up-video/?advD=1248,15689

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  11. James F says:

    I am guessing Zemir Begic is a white man of Croation ethnicity since it is a a Croation name and is being reported on Croation language news sites.

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  12. moogey says:

    That is near neighborhood in St Louis settled by Bosnian Muslims when US opened door to Bosnian Refugees. Mr. Begic’s Facebook page appears to support the fact that he is Bosnian.

    White Muslim – killed by Black Muslims? Just another incident of work place violence.

    (My sarcasm is not meant to demean Mr. Begic or minimize the tragedy of his death. I’m just tired of the media closing their eyes to Domestic Terrorism.)

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    • sundance says:

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      • nyetneetot says:

        75-100? Those legal immigrants will chew up and spit out those video game playing American black youths, regardless of prison time or street cred.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Roger that – if you’re familiar with the little Former Yugoslavia dust-up in the early 90s you know that the Bosnians put up with a lot worse than what the US Self-Serbing Usual Suspects can deal out – and have the recent memory to react and react ‘with great viguh!’. I’m betting the SL Chief was trying to make sure that the gorki clingers in the Bosnian community didn’t decide to do a little ethnic cleansing redux of their own. They are very familiar with ineffective police protection.

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          • angie says:

            My mom and I went to Medugorje on Pilgrimage. Every night the teen aged boys and men of the village went into the mountains to protect the pilgrims. I was very happy that we learned this information on our last day. The airport was scary with military men carrying huge weapons. The war started 2 weeks after we left.

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    • Just Tea says:

      A large Bosnian community in the Bevo Mill area.

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    • justice099 says:

      Just a point that MOST Bosnian immigrants are Christians who fled because of hostility towards their religion.

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  13. Marc Winger says:

    A lot of scum gravitates to St. Louis, of every color. Sounds like a Balkan immigrant that should have stayed out of trouble & away from blacks. His FB page is still partially accessible.

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  14. MaryfromMarin says:

    This is a true hate crime. Facilitated hatred. Encouraged AND excused by those in charge.

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  15. StormyeyesC says:

    This is a video of him

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  16. StormyeyesC says:

    Here is another He is a singer of some kind One video is labelled StlHollywood

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  17. jason says:

    2 in custody. Police are still searching for two others, a 16-year-old black male and a 15-year-old Hispanic, KTVI added.

    The following KMOV-TV report aired before Begic died of his injuries and the station had updated information — but the report noted that a similar attack happened in the same neighborhood earlier, with the assailants using the sharp end of a hammer on their victim
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/30/teen-thugs-on-the-loose-after-fatal-hammer-attack-on-st-louis-street/?utm_source=TheBlaze.com&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=story&utm_content=teen-thugs-on-the-loose-after-fatal-hammer-attack-on-st-louis-street

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  18. StormyeyesC says:

    Then there is this:

    Dad: Daughter lost an eye during Ferguson protest

    http://www.wgem.com/story/27505631/dad-daughter-lost-an-eye-during-ferguson-protest

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Headline should read:

      “Passenger in car loses eye when Driver attempts to run over policeman”

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      • libby says:

        Running over police with your car is DOJ CRS & msm certified ‘peaceful’ protesting

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      • jello333 says:

        Exactly. I feel bad for the girl, but her boyfriend needs to be charged not only with assault on the cop, but also for what happened to the girl.

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        • justice099 says:

          They don’t even mention that the bf fled after the girl ran to the police for help. They are still looking for him. He didn’t even give a shit that his pregnant gf lost an eye. He used the opportunity to flee.

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        • yankeeintx says:

          I think I read that he already had a warrant out for him, which is why he was trying to avoid the cops. (But still felt the need to drive around as a show of respect for Big Mike).

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        • Kitty Smith says:

          I don’t feel badly for her at all. Lie down with dogs, you’re going to get fleas. Pregnant? If she had any functioning brain matter, she would have stayed home. She was there with a violent, hate-filled obamason BF who was trying to run over somebody. Why not feel sorry for that person, the cop, instead? She was in the thick of it. Do we know she wasn’t a participant? Throwing rocks, etc., perhaps?

          I also feel sorry for the taxpayers who will be paying for her care, her future SSI payments with an extra stipend for the kid, extra child care, foo’ stamps, EBT and feeding and housing the jailed BF/bastid’s father. She’s 24, so she has many fertile years ahead of her. Maybe she’ll end up so disfigured that none of these feral savages will want to lay down with her and the bastid she’s about to whelp will be the end of her gravy train.

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    • James F says:

      Daughter lost eye during attempted vehicular homocide by her boyfriend.

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    • csno says:

      Why am I surprised that Reb Z was hassling the cops last nite about bean bags putting eyes out? I thought they fired into the crowd. Those 2 in the car are lucky all that cop used was a bean bag round. I, like many others here am ready to tear my hair out over the stupidity of the left.

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  19. True Colors says:

    Ferguson, Missouri, August 2014……… Police officer(white) uses lethal force to defend himself against a violent felon(black). The national media swarm was overwhelming. There were countless accusations of racially motivated violence.

    Ferguson Missouri, August 2013……… Group of thugs(black) use a hammer to bludgeon a hot dog worker(white) at a Home Depot so that they can steal his cell phone. There was zero interest from the national media and zero accusations of racially motivated violence.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/three-more-charged-in-hammer-attack-of-home-depot-hot/article_b1a76b9d-4278-5260-8b48-f2289173f668.html

    Double standard much?

    TC

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    • Daniel says:

      This media bias will NOT end until they are attacked where it will hurt them the most. COMPLAIN TO THE SPONSORS. Don’t complain to the networks or publishers. Complain to who pays them. Call the sponsors out as responsible for these stories being reported or not being reported as they are. We live in a capitalist nation. Money interests rule. Complain to the sponsors. This movement has already started and everyone who is angry at the media needs to join in.

      The MSM may be chumy with the dems and the other leftists, but that’s not who pays their bills.

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      • passerby says:

        Take a look at the recent gains by Gamergate – they’ve done exactly that, contacting advertisers and telling them they won’t buy their products if they continue to advertise with Gawker, Kotaku, et cetera. And it’s working.

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    • justice099 says:

      Every time we bring this double standard up, the response is “they in jail now, ain’t they???” Meaning the victim received justice and supposedly blacks do not. Umm….

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      • michellc says:

        Back in the days when I still tried to reason with those who you can’t reason with, I would shoot back with their rap sheet that was a mile long and they weren’t in jail for all their crimes when they finally committed murder.
        That was always defended as, “they frame blacks and arrest them when they do nothin wrong, that’s why judge not send them to jail.”
        I would try to get through to them that they were CONVICTED of all their crimes, the judge just didn’t make them pay for their crimes.

        To them and white liberals though, no prison = no conviction = they were arrested for being black by racist cops.

        So trying to reason with them that self defense is not felony murder but walking up and shooting someone in the head so you can rob the cash register is felony murder, is a total waste of time.
        Just like they cannot be reasoned with that the autopsies proved his hands weren’t up.

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        • justice099 says:

          The irony of saying the judge didn’t punish them because it was unfair and then claiming they don’t get justice is just oozing.

          You can’t win an argument with these people because their logic is circular. It’s like chasing your own tail.

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  20. Tkim says:

    What a hellish way to die…

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  21. lovelyd24 says:

    Hmm…. I am thinking that the youths have started a war with the wrong community this time. I doubt the Bosnians are going to be politically correct about this. I doubt they are going to apologize for defending themselves. I doubt that refugees who came to America with nothing yet built a life for themselves are going to afford the “you are free to dehumanize our community” card to the monsters who viciously murdered their son, their brother, their friend.

    Maybe the real street war in St. Louis has just begun.

    How soulless does one have to be to smash the life out of another human being with a hammer.

    Vile human beings.

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    • canadacan says:

      I’m with the Bosnians .
      Bring it

      Liked by 5 people

    • libby says:

      The word slave derives from the word ‘slav’.
      Go tell those slavs they know nothing about being a slave

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      • That’s a false etymology. Slav in Slavic languages means People, mostly. Like the German Volk or the English Folk.

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        • Rob Crawford says:

          Sure, but in other languages….

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        • libby says:

          I speak english, not slav

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        • libby says:

          Let me bring some proof:
          slave (n.) Look up slave at Dictionary.com
          late 13c., “person who is the chattel or property of another,” from Old French esclave (13c.), from Medieval Latin Sclavus “slave” (source also of Italian schiavo, French esclave, Spanish esclavo), originally “Slav” (see Slav); so used in this secondary sense because of the many Slavs sold into slavery by conquering peoples.
          This sense development arose in the consequence of the wars waged by Otto the Great and his successors against the Slavs, a great number of whom they took captive and sold into slavery. [Klein]
          Meaning “one who has lost the power of resistance to some habit or vice” is from 1550s. Applied to devices from 1904, especially those which are controlled by others (compare slave jib in sailing, similarly of locomotives, flash bulbs, amplifiers). Slave-driver is attested from 1807; extended sense of “cruel or exacting task-master” is by 1854. Slate state in U.S. history is from 1812. Slave-trade is attested from 1734.
          http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=slave

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      • Bosnjak says:

        slavic people are on of major grups of people n europé together with germanic and latins. Slavic peple and germanic people have allways been enemies and fighten each other in history and when a germanic captured someone from slavic people they called him a slave. Thats origin of the Word slave in germanic languages. Slav in slavic languages( russian, polish, bulgarian….) means GLORY and PRIDE.

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    • md6thcd says:

      Totally agree. I don’t think Bosnians are used to waiting around for the justice system to play its part. I suspect that these guys have actually been directly subjected to abuse rather than using some 150 year old excuse. Good luck Bro but more likely than not you are not going to survive a war against the Bosnians.

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    • jello333 says:

      I’d really hate to see any of the Bosnians wind up in jail for going after one of these scumbags. And I’d MUCH prefer our “system” take care of the problem. But I’m no longer naive enough to believe that’s gonna happen anytime soon. It just MIGHT be that ordinary people are gonna have to start taking matters into their own hands. I get no joy from that thought…. but there it is.

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    • MTeresa says:

      How soulless does one have to be to smash the life out of another human being with a hammer.

      My sentiments exactly. We are up against pure unadulterated evil.

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    • michellc says:

      I’ve read that there are an estimated 70,000 Bosnians in St. Louis.

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      • stellabella25 says:

        That’s correct, the influx started in the 90’s with refugees from the war. They mostly reside in what is termed “Little Bosnia” south of St. Louis in the Bevo Mill area. For the most part very hardworking people just trying to make a living in America. Some very gorgeous houses there in that area. This is just horrific! St. Louis has been just spinning out of control the last several years. We are the not so proud starters of the knockout game, that started down that way as well. Just sick!

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        • michellc says:

          I wonder if spinning out of control has anything to do with the black population climbing to over 49%?

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          • stellabella25 says:

            Well most of the violent crime here is in St. Louis City proper, where the population is 49%, so logic says… But at the rate they are killing each other this year that number should be plummeting. I think we’re near 140 murders in the city alone YTD with a month left to go.

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            • michellc says:

              I was actually kind of surprised when I looked up the numbers. It’s been about 5 years since I’ve been to St. Louis, but it didn’t seem like the population was that high.

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      • canadacan says:

        Really that many ,oh goodie

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    • Anton says:

      We must demand the rule of law….and stop accepting political correctness of any kind. We must demand EQUAL RIGHTS and EQUAL RESPONSIBILITIES…Affirmative Action MUST be closed down..it is unconstitutional. Diversity is a joke. We built this country. There is neither slave nor slave owner alive today….

      From another’s post today. All should read this.

      Warning For Americans – A Message From A South African

      http://www.rense.com/general24/message.htm

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    • MaryfromMarin says:

      When “sex toys: is one of the highlighted tags…have to take any of it with a block of salt.

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    • jason says:

      sigh, what a piece of garbage. Let’s pick an arbitrary set of facts and argue them, regardless of their relevance to show you too can convince yourself and others MB was murdered.

      Admits that most of the “Fake Facts” are true, but they choose to characterize them in a way to discount them
      – store robbery is fake fact cause some people are saying the owner reported the robbery (not that a robbery didn’t occur, or that someone else could have and did report it)
      – some reporting Brown was a demon who was charging at Wilson causing him to fear for his life: Author argues both men are tall, and the STL legal investigator ran out of batteries and couldn’t take pictures. (author notes there are plenty of pictures that were taken, but lack of pictures from the single investigator apparently demonstrates Wilson shouldn’t have felt threatened during the charge).
      – Mike Brown was reaching for the gun when killed: Author argues Brown was shot a long ways away from the car where he grabbed the gun, therefore Brown reaching for it is not relevant. (uh, grabbing for the gun the first time would also increase the threat of a charge. If Brown reached it once he could/would grab for the gun again).
      – It’s not about racism? Author points to some people who made some racist comments on social media. This alone proves Wilson killed Brown cause he’s rayciss.

      Uh…. think I’ll go pound my head against the wall than continue to learn to eloquently argue with err, ‘facts’.

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      • Tempest says:

        Read the comments on Facebook…;)

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      • Shep33 says:

        So many people saying he didn’t deserve to die for stealing cigarillos. That he was surrendering. I truly believe millions of people have no imagination or reasoning abilities. It’s disturbing. He was killed because he had just attacked a cop(fact). His state of mind was that of someone who just fought for a cops gun. Turning around, he had conceded he was caught, and knew the tremendous crime he had just committed. Barring a desperate act of stopping this cop, his life was ruined. He was not surrendering. He was being fired at as he approached(fact). Never in the history of mankind has someone being shot at, with the intention of surrending, kept proceeding towards the shooter. You stop. Say hey, I’m getting shot at. I should probably either try running away again, or get the hell down before I die. How is this lost on so many people? It’s insanity. Everyone agrees he was headed towards wilson, but nobody questions why he would continue towards him while getting shot? It would be the stupidest surrender in the history of surrenders. But no. He was walking towards wilson to surrender, kept coming while getting hit with billets, and was convinced coming closer to the shooter was his most logical way to display his surrendering. This is accepted by people. REAL LIFE people. Wha?

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        • jello333 says:

          But you’re forgetting the most important fact of all: Mike was a gentle, caring, loving giant. All he wanted was a hug. Yes it’s true that Wilson was threatening to shoot him, but Gentle Mike wasn’t really worried about himself… he was worried about the obviously fragile emotional state Wilson was then in. “Come here guy, I’m sorry I accidentally punched you a minute ago. I really didn’t mean to. Here, lemme give you a hug.” That’s all Mike was trying to do… but sadly, the cop misunderstood.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Yes, little reasoning ability as shep33 said.

      I dropped a comment there, it’s awaiting moderation, we’ll see if she’s courageous enough to allow it

      –quote–
      Your comment is awaiting moderation.
      I’ll likely go on to read more, however I tripped up on 2 false premises / straw man arguments in your very first section.

      “But Mike Brown robbed a convenience store”
      ” iii. The core issue remains: since when is theft/robbery punishable by death?”

      That’s a false premise. Brown did not die as punishment for a robbery. He died due to assaulting a police officer (his 2nd felony on the day), trying to commandeer his gun, and then charging at him some 150 ft down Canfield where he had been pursued. This last act elicited a self-defense shooting by the police officer.

      Your “since when is theft/robbery punishable by death?” mischaracterization is glib, trite, and unworthy to the seriousness of the situation.

      iii. continued – “How many people have stolen things from convenience stores? How many young White girls have stolen lipgloss from a pharmacy?”

      Again, a false premise. What you’ve described is shoplifting. What Mike Brown committed was robbery, a felony categorized as a violent crime (force, threat, or intimidation). This was his 1st felony on the day, so far as we know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery

      Did you take a logic course in college? They teach about such things as false premises and straw man arguments.

      As I said, perhaps I’ll read more but I’m not sure the rest of your article will be worth my time. It’s all too easy to proceed on to specious arguments when starting from false premises, as appears to be the case in the couple of introductory paragraphs I’ve read so far.
      –unquote–

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  22. sloth1963 says:

    Justiss for Tray…. I means Mika… An slavery, and civil whatever dat iz. And cause I was raised in an environment that glamorizes senseless violence. It’s all Atari’s fault. The Violence continues far beyond any justification can be attained.

    My uncle was carjacked and killed in Detroit by socalled “youthful offenders”. They got off with extremely light sentences. The judge doing the sentencing was card carrying member of the BGI. I still believe in judicial discretion, but I don’t think a slap on the wrist and command to “Go forth an sin no more.” is anywhere near serious enough. What option can fit the crime when family, faith and community have already failed? Hold the whole family responsible and shun them? I’m doubtful a meaningful definition of “Family” could be found and consistently applied. Can we restore our society to one where law and obedience guide most of us and where aberration isn’t tolerated let alone glorified? I pray to God we aren’t beyond that point.

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    • StormyeyesC says:

      Cut off the laziness allowances. Cut off the unnecessary luxuries (Obama phones, section 8) When people are busy finding a source of food and shelter, they won’t have time for senseless crimes. Fewer babies will be bred if the ones they have aren’t being fed by the taxpayers.

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      • janc1955 says:

        Agree 100 percent. Idle hands are the devil’s workshop. These folks need to be forced to scrape out a living like the rest of us. It will “incentivize” them in a multitude of ways, from keeping them off the streets creating mischief, to keeping them from having more babies THEY have to figure out how to feed, shelter and clothe.

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      • bullnuke says:

        Pass a law. If you are obtaining government assistance, EBT card, whatever, and your child commits an aggravated assault, you loose your benefits. Period. Parents need to be held accountable for their feral children.

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        • StormyeyesC says:

          At very least, with the understanding that we all have a hard time once in our lives, put a limit of time on benefits. One year max. Max 4 years over a lifetime. If you suck them dry right away, there is nothing to fall back on.

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  23. Daniel says:

    People who come from areas heavily affected by actual war are a lot less likely to take this lying down. “This is about to get ugly” means someone is going to fight back. Let it be! Someone needs to remind the people of America that we cannot defend our peace without defending it. The justice system was supposed to settle the Mike Brown case but the courts and the system no longer matter to those people.

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    • canadacan says:

      First sentence is says it all .Absolutely correct in my opinion.
      Welcome to the real world and meet some expert fighters against real oppression

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  24. DeepSouthPopulist says:

    Where is Eric Holder? That miserable SOB is a blight on our collective humanity.

    Holder don’t want to aggressively discourage or prosecute attacks on white folks by the small but very dangerous criminally-inclined subset of the black population. There is no other reasonable for their complete inaction on the issue.

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  25. jello333 says:

    “This is about to get VERY UGLY – The Bosnian Community is active and engaged in Saint Louis.”

    Unfortunately, Bosnians have had a TON of experience with bad things going on around them. But it’s perhaps even more unfortunate for the Trayvons, Gentle Giants, Hammerheads of St. Louis… THEY may be about to find out two can play their game.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      Unfortunate for the Trayvons (etc.)? Just think of all the lives that will be saved, the lives that won’t end up in wheelchairs for life from hoodrat beatdowns, the people who won’t be sobbing over their young loved ones buried six-feet below where their grieving families stand every Sunday, year in and year out, if the savages find out two can play their game, and the other side plays it much better.

      I see that as a good thing, not unfortunate.

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  26. Here’s another cue: Don’t ever drive down or get out of your car on a street called Martin Luther King Blvd. (where pizza guy was murdered.)

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    • csno says:

      Would imagine if you have to bake homosexual wedding cakes you gotta deliver dangerous pizzas.

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      • yankeeintx says:

        When my daughter worked for Pizza Hut, they had whole neighborhoods that were “no delivery zones”, pick up orders only.

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        • Sentient says:

          Would-be attackers of pizza delivery people usually do things like: order a small cheese pizza and ask that the driver bring change for a $50 or a $100, request that the driver go to the back door, etc. Caller ID thwarts many setups these days.

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  27. libby says:

    Jusice for Trayvon?

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  28. Menagerie says:

    Watch your comments please. You are free to express your anger and opinions, but there is an acceptable way to do it. If you want to be filthy, cruel, savage and low class, you are on the wrong blog.

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  29. Al says:

    Farrakhan’s recent Nation Of Islams speech might have just set off a war between his wanna be Muslims & the real Muslims of Bosnia with this hammer assault.

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  30. Just Tea says:

    On the pizza delivery murder, the sentencing was really an injustice. This is going to make you mad, it did me anyway. I looked on Casenet and at MO DOC.
    Chester Woods 2nd degree murder got 13 years.
    Shermell Crokcet 2nd degree murder got 13 days, yes I said days.

    Go check it out yourselves. https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/searchCases.do
    Here all this time I’m thinking the minimum for 2nd degree murder is at least 10 years.

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    • BobNoxious says:

      Crocket is serving 18 years, not 18 days. That’s just a incorrect entry on case net.

      DOC Id  1202587
      

      Offender Name Shermell A Crockett
      Race Black
      Sex Male
      Date of Birth 11/18/1991
      Height/Weight 5’4″ / 125
      Hair/Eyes Black /Brown
      Assigned Location South Central Correctional Center
      Address 255 West Highway 32, Licking, MO 65542
      Assigned Officer Phone Number (573) 674-4470
      Sentence Summary 18 Years (4, 7, 7, 7, 7, 6, 4, 18, 18, 18, 18 CC)
      Active Offenses MURDER 2ND DEGREE – FELONY MURDER;RESIST/INTERFER FEL ARR(2 CTS);BURGLARY 2ND DEG(2 CTS);THEFT-$500/MORE-LESS $25000(2 CTS);STEALING OF A MOTOR VEH-1ST OFNS;ROBBERY 1ST DEGREE;ARMED CRIMINAL ACTION(2 CTS)
      Completed Offenses Completed sentence not found
      Aliases Shermell Allen Crockett; Shermell Crockett

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      • jello333 says:

        Those numbers after the sentence are probably scores. Most jurisdictions use a scoring system to determine your sentence, based on the type of crime, your previous record, etc. If the total is under a certain number, you’re eligible for probation, without jail time. But above that it means prison, anywhere from a year to life.

        (Oh, another thing. “Height/Weight 5’4″ / 125”. Dude is gonna have some MAJOR issues in lockup. I’m absolutely not trying to be funny about that, there’s nothing funny about prison violence/coersion… I’m just noting the obvious.)

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        • BobNoxious says:

          They aren’t scores; those are sentences on individual counts. The cut and paste formatted weird but his total sentence is 18 years. If you go to the MO DOC Inmate Finder page and type in his name or use that ID number you’ll see he was sentenced to 18 years. As I said in another thread, I’m a MO licensed attorney and I know what I’m talking about on matters such as this.

          And yes, someone that size will have a very rough go in prison, unless he can connect w/ some protection outfit but I doubt this clown can.

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          • jello333 says:

            Ah yeah, looking at it again I can see that. But they really DO use the types of scores I was referring to to help determine sentence. (Help me out here, and say “Jello was at least partly right.” 😉 )

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            • BobNoxious says:

              They do use what is called an “SARs” or sentencing assessment report in calculating the recommended sentence prior to the sentencing hearing, that is correct. If I’m reading things correctly, Crocket was out on bail at the time of this murder (if it happened in 2012) as he was charged w/ another crime in 2011 for which he received a 6 year sentence. I don’t recall the charges off the top of my head but my guess is that it was for the motor vehicle theft conviction.

              Also, I nearly positive that Armed Criminal Action (ACA) carries a mandatory 10 year sentence in MO so we know he’ll spend at least that long on jail.

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              • jello333 says:

                Thanks. And this reminds me of how people keep screaming about how Wilson destroyed Brown’s life, and how he’d now be in college were it not for being shot. WRONG! The Gentle Giant would have been facing charges of robbery (I think it’s 5 to 15 in Missouri, though he’d likely get toward the lower end) and of course assaulting a cop (which I would assume has a pretty serious sentence attached), maybe more. So NO, Brown was not gonna be heading off to college, even if he had not died that day.

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              • Just Tea says:

                Armed criminal action in MO is at least 3-years and can go up to life (which is 30-years).

                BobNoxious you are correct about Casenet making a typo on the 18 days, see I didn’t even look on DOC after I saw the 18 days.

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        • BobNoxious says:

          Also- the “CC” means the sentences are to be served concurrently. If you see a “CS” it means the sentences are to be served consecutively.

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        • Kitty Smith says:

          I hope he suffers every hour and cries for his mama all night long.

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  31. Shep33 says:

    There will be no national outrage. No media over-saturarion. No government investigation. No speech from our president. No call to enact different “policies”. This is a thousand times more awful than a violent/desperate criminal being killed for attacking a cop, and our country will have no reaction. I’m disgusted by the current state of this country. We used to have such admirable leaders. This is not their vision. I don’t even know if that vision is in sight anymore.

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    • lovelyd24 says:

      And this is the true problem. The national mentality that allowed the hearts of so many Americans to let it get to this point.

      The rotten fruit of appeasement, race baiting and perpetuating century old grievances as fresh wounds continues to bear its ugly head. This time it came bearing hammers. Next time who knows. I wonder at the look of fear that will come over the faces of those who have perpetuated and flamed this hatred and helplessness in the black community when the community realizes that the coffers of their heroes has been wantonly bought at the price of their humanity.

      Youths like Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin go from “place to place,” stay where they can, and folks like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson come to their neighborhoods and ask for more money to guild their own cages. The politicians ask for their votes, but then claim that there is nothing anyone can do to change their lot in life. The powers that lie over and again have created the this vileness and disguise it as “unacceptable but understandable” anger.

      I wonder how ugly the great awakening will be. Hammers is a pretty good indication.

      God have mercy.

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  32. Shay Davis says:

    Thanks guys. I never knew this site existed and I’m in total agreement with you. When will this end??? I’m beginning to question my party affiliation. Something has to be done but no one’s paying attention. I’m so disillusioned.

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    • Sharon says:

      Being disillusioned is a positive thing: it means that the illusions are being exposed. When the illusions are exposed in bright light they evaporate rather quickly and then we have the opportunity to understand what’s happening on the basis of reality.

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      • illtakeanything says:

        At this point reality seems awful scary. I actually voted for this president. Now I’m wondering wth I was thinking. I’m shocked at how he’s hung DW out to dry. I just started teaching at a school with a 90% black population and I’ve never before felt scared of the kids (well teenagers actually) but these kids are insane. Fights everyday all day, total insanity. I don’t even know where to begin. I don’t even want to go to work tomorrow. At years end I’ll be putting in for a transfer.

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        • jello333 says:

          But what he’s done with this case should come as no surprise, after seeing what he and his ilk did to George. Same playbook…. same immorality.

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          • illtakeanything says:

            I haven’t read all the reports on Zimmerman but will be looking for it here. I always believed the party line about that man. I’m chagrined.

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            • jello333 says:

              Yeah, sorry you weren’t here back then. If you were, I GUARANTEE your eyes would have been opened. I know mine were, and until recently I had been a life-long Democrat (and I also voted for Obama in ’08, though not in ’12). Since I’ve been here, I’ve come to trust the guys here, who are mostly conservatives, FAR more than I do the average Dem or “liberal”.

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              • Kitty Smith says:

                Why did you vote for Obama? What did he say/do/look like/sound like that got your vote? How much did you look into his background and seek information about him? One hour? Five days? Two weeks? Two months? If you could just give an estimate.

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                • jello333 says:

                  I used to ask people the same thing when I found out they voted for Bush. Not so much if they voted for him in 2000, but if they voted for him the 2nd time, in 2004. Because by then, it was pretty much impossible to not see him for who he was and the damage he was doing to the US and the world.

                  So you ask me why I voted for Obama in 2008? It was because I stupidly fell for the “change” garbage he was peddling. I KNEW it likely was a fairy tale, but I had become so cynical over the previous years (decades actually) that I was willing to try anything. STUPID? Yep, I admit it. But hopefully you’ll give me some credit for NOT voting for him (and actively working AGAINST him) in 2012… since by that time (actually by a few months into his first term) I realized he was WORSE than Bush could ever dream of being.

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                • Kitty Smith says:

                  So you saw the light quickly and realized your mistake. May I suggest you check ’em out thoroughly henceforth. I’m glad you quickly had a reckoning with your error. Nobody’s infallible. There was plenty of information out there about him prior to his first election. IMO, we must always take the time and do the hard work it takes to learn about such an important question.

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            • Sharon says:

              When you have time, just enter Zimmerman in the search box in the right hand margin and that will given you a whole lot of starting points.

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              • jello333 says:

                Remember when I first got here, one of the first things I mentioned after I got all caught up with the first dozen or so “updates” was that someone should “index” everything. Just really go to town with a database and make everything linked and sortable. I even volunteered to try it myself, though I’m no expert. Someone (Sundance? I don’t remember) said nah, there’s too much info already, and it would be too time-consuming to try to do something like that. This was, oh, just about 2 months into the whole case. Bet you wish you would have taken me up on my offer back then, huh? 😉

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        • Sharon says:

          Reality actually is very scary. The thing is, both as individuals and as a nation, we have a far better possibility of meeting it well and surviving if we are seeing it for what it is rather than pretending it’s not so bad.

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        • Kitty Smith says:

          So……you voted for this tyrant but now you want to bail out on what you’ve sown? You don’t even want to go to work tomorrow? Why not? Because the school is 90% black and full of violence? What did you think you were voting for when you voted for a black community organizer who ran with a terrorist who bombed police stations, snorted coke all day by admission, attended a church for twenty years in which the “pastor” of some repute yelled “G-d damn America!” at the top of his lungs, was repeatedly proved to be a liar and incessantly promised to “fundamentally change America” during his campaign before his first election? I’m really curious to know why you voted for Obama.

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          • TexasRanger says:

            Many people (Americans) were taken in by Obama and his slick BS, it sounded so good! But, now when they are realizing they’ve been doped and had, – they should not be criticized or shamed!

            We should cheer and welcome them for their enlightenment so that we can all begin to tear down and undo the damage this black muslin president Barrack Hussein Obama has brought to our country – America.

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            • 7delta says:

              The people who were watching the MSM never heard anything negative about obama. All they heard, delivered with a sneer of derision, about issues brought up by others was that it was because of racism. The narrative was carefully controlled. I’d never felt compelled to do much research on a candidate’s background before ’08. I knew politicians would sell their mothers for a vote, but I never thought they’d sell out the entire country. There are checks and balances! I trusted the system, until about 10 minutes in the campaign.

              I knew I didn’t like McCain, so I was willing to hear what obama had to say. I listened to obama once and knew he was just another sleazy politician. It took only once more of watching him make a campaign speech for me to say, “I know what he’s doing. I know that technique.” Some call it conversational hypnosis. It’s the unethical use of a hypo-therapeutic technique pioneered by Erickson. Much later, I discovered Valerie Jarrett’s mother was, or is, a psychologist who worked at an Erickson clinic in or near Chicago. Convenient.

              I can see how people got taken in the first time. If I were not so cynical and had not become suspicious of all the bizarre behavior of media and other politicians, I may not have noticed the Erickson tricks. These strange happenings took me on the hunt for the truth. It’s been a long and convoluted journey, with little sleep, that’s not over yet, but boy, I’ve learned a lot.

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              • Kitty Smith says:

                People need to take responsibility for their vote, period, especially when it comes to the highest office in the formerly free world. Anyone who votes for any Democrat for a position that participate in policy making or expenditures of taxpayer funds is voting for the leftist agenda. Anyone who has accepted that responsibility by following what our lawmakers do and how they spend our money would know approximately what o-bama was going to do with his power. I don’t buy this ‘mesmerizing’ by this Ericsson method. Either someone is paying attention to the facts or they’re not. If they’re not, then they should stay home on election day and leave the voting to responsible grown-ups. And if they insist on voting anyway, then they can at least look at the voting patterns of Democrats and their clearly-spoken agenda and figure it out.

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                • 7delta says:

                  I don’t buy this ‘mesmerizing’ by this Ericsson method. Either someone is paying attention to the facts or they’re not.

                  Oh, it’s real. Salesmen use it. Politicians use it to one degree or another. Word choice, rise and fall of voice, timed gestures. The power of persuasion. Read a little about it, then go watch one of his speeches in ’08. I didn’t see it used in ’12. Too much trouble, I guess, because each of his speeches had to be choreographed, learned and practiced and there was no need in the last election.

                  Okay, facts. Where do you get those facts? Not the media. Not from the politicians or their surrogates. Not from the usual partisan print or online outlets. Some of it, but not all, you can get from a few online outlets dedicated to exposing what they can. The web was already fairly well scrubbed by the time obama took the stage.

                  You get it by digging in back alleys, then digging in documents, and checking the ditches on dusty highways. It takes a tremendous amount of time. A lot of what you find is useless and planted. It’s got to be weeded out. I’ve spent countless hours into the wee hours of the morning following bread crumbs that explained progressivism and all its ideological soul mates to individuals, to the law starting back in Anglo-Saxon common law through the Norman Conquest’s feudalism, to the founders, to the Continental Congress, to the Constitutional Convention, to Congressional and committee records from the very first one. That was just the beginning. It goes on still.

                  Not everyone can do that. I can. I’m driven to find the truth. I set my own hours and I can survive on little sleep, but not everyone can or knows how, but they can learn. First, they have to recognize the need and that was carefully concealed, discouraged and ridiculed from the git-go. It’s to your credit that you picked up on what was wrong so quickly. I knew something was bad wrong, but I had to search for answers, piece it together, adjust with new information, and I still haven’t found all the answers. I’ve worked long hours and juggled a personal family life too. I get it.

                  I’m not angry with anyone who didn’t immediately get it. I don’t care how the ones who will never get it voted. Most of the violent useful idiots, like in Ferguson, didn’t vote. All of these people are a tiny but loud minority. I want their leaders and manipulators exposed. I want the manipulators’ and their handlers’ ideology laid bare and torn to shreds.

                  I’m angry with the people who won by lying, cheating and stealing. I’m angry with the people who didn’t uphold their oath and defend the Constitution for whatever reason…I don’t care why. There is always a way. They caused this. Not the voters. I have no reason whatsoever to believe he was duly elected in either race.

                  There are people who deserve the ire of every American, but any who have awaken to the fraud and want to reevaluate where they stand, to learn…welcome to the party, pal. It’s going to be rough ride, so buckle up. The more the merrier.

                  We win. We win with the truth. What good is the truth or having facts, if we don’t share them with the purpose of lighting brushfires in the minds of men and women to remember who they are, then welcome them, when they grasp the depth of what’s really going on? If I’m not doing this to win, to win people to see the truth, then I might as go watch Dancing with the Stars.

                  I understand your anger, Kitty. Mine just happens to be directed toward the core of the disease, not the symptoms. That’s just me. Ornery. Just ornery.

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            • Kitty Smith says:

              I wasn’t taken in by him nor was anybody I know. All anyone has to do is look at what Democrats do and say to understand where o-bama was going with his “hope and change” and “fundamentally transforming America”. Transforming it into what? That should have prompted even the most inchoate curiosity as to what his background revealed about what he meant by that. The information was there.

              The people who didn’t know they didn’t want what he was selling could have put forth a modicum of effort to find out who and what he is. Sure, I welcome their enlightenment, if they truly are and have since studied and learned what he, the democrats and the left are truly about, but they owe the rest of us an apology for their stupidity that resulted in visiting a tyrannical fascist on this country and probably ruining it irreparably because many of the things o-bama has done can’t be undone. They let the genie out of the bottle in those polling booths. They may not have liked McCain, but they didn’t have to invite him to dinner. It was known that he wouldn’t have spent like a drunken sailor to redistribute wealth, shred the constitution, destroy commerce, and mistreat and insult our military. That, alone, should have been enough to inform most red-blooded Americans who didn’t want to do the work of actually LEARNING about who o-bama really is.

              And I have never found o-bama one bit slick.

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        • TexasRanger says:

          My advice to you is to get out of there. It’s not worth your sanity or maybe even your life. Let other savages deal with these savages and save yourself!

          And, be very mindful and careful of who you vote for in the future!

          Search for the truth – we are here to help!

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          • Kitty Smith says:

            They need to figure out their priorities next time. Just because someone is in a union doesn’t mean they have to vote as a bloc as they’re told. Meanwhile, those who voted for o-bama and are now seeing the impact of their vote should tough it out and take the heat instead of cutting and running and leaving their mess for someone else to suffer and clean up, if it even can be. They made their bed…….

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            • angie says:

              I feel that those who have realized they made a mistake should be welcomed from the dark side. Do I think they screwed up, yes, however, we do have the right to vote though even if people don’t agree with our choices. Haranguing them about past decisions doesn’t accomplish anything.

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    • lovelyd24 says:

      Welcome Shay, glad to have you here.

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      • illtakeanything says:

        Thanks, I was beginning to think the whole world had lost it’s collective mind. And then I find this little oasis. I feel like I’m in paradise. A bunch of people who are in reality about this whole crazy thing. The false narrative of the msm is shocking to me. I guess it’s time to wake up.

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    • illtakeanything says:

      hey just joined and couldn’t get a username after a gazillion times so I’m now, ‘Illtakeanything”.

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  33. Just Tea says:

    The victim was not from Miami, FL, but lived on a street in St. Louis called Miami Street FYI

    The victim was identified as Zemir Begic, 32, of the 4200 block of Miami Street. He had injuries to his head, abdomen, face and mouth. He was taken to St. Louis University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

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  34. czarowniczy says:

    Gee, will the mentioned ‘Mexican’ youth be charges as an unaccompanied minor?
    This will be, as it was time and time again under the Trayvon farce, be blamed on emotions stirred by the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a rogue cop whom a biased jury failed to indict. Yadayadayada. Where’s that IKEA ‘Berlin Wall’ kit when you really need it?

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    • whodoneit says:

      No doubt he’s a “white” Hispanic like George Zimmerman.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Or under the influence of drugs, Just wait until the local LaRaza commissar gets his mits on him.

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        • Rob Crawford says:

          To do what? Congratulate him on a successful “polar bear hunt”?

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          • czarowniczy says:

            I do not see the ‘militant’ Mexicans getting mixed up with blacks on black social issues. The Mexican (both specific and generic term for Latinos) pressure on residents of certain areas has increased to the point that some black gangs who’ve historically fought each other are now banding together to defend against Mexican encroachment into historically black areas. I’m betting that the Mexicans in the area are not happy with a hermano getting involved in ( Spanish expletive deleted) affairs and drawing unfavorable attention to them while they are trying to get roots down.

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            • Funny, I just said something similar in a FB discussion a few hours ago. Some people just don’t get nuances!

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Yep, the people generally don’t realize that Mexican and black aims just ain’t all that the same. Look at Compton in California. It was – and many still think it is – a black community but the Latinos are now the largest minority/ethnic group in the city. Many traditionally black areas are having heavy Latino inroads being made and it’s only going to get more inroady. Wonder if the irony of the US;’s first black president being so vocal and active in the process of submerging his brethren under the Spanish tide ever kicks in?

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            • michellc says:

              Usually Mexicans and Blacks despise each other.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                I remember our New Orleans mayor, usually rather close lipped (OK, there was that Chocolate City remark…), saying in front of an open mike just after Katrina that he didn’t want to see his city overrun with Mexicans. I’d say it’s pretty ingrained on both sides.

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                • michellc says:

                  What I kind of find ironic, whites are always called the racist ones, yet Mexicans will say they hate blacks and blacks will say they hate Mexicans. They have no qualms about saying they hate each other because of their race. They are never called racists though.
                  Very few whites who are truly racist outside of KKK will openly say they hate people because of their race.

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  As a sociology professor answered me in the early 70s when I asked that same question (and I believe I’ve mentioned this before): “You can’t be racist unless you have the power’. So as only whites have ‘the power’ only whites can be racist. Simple – you just redefine the entire concept to meet your individual needs and if anyone disagrees with you – (fanfare please) they are RACIST! Much of the crap they fed me in those classes went in one ear and out into the loo but that definition stayed with me.

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                • Kitty Smith says:

                  Ol’ Nagin is in federal prison now. 🙂

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                • angie says:

                  Blacks do have power now. the potus and the ag, so they can be racist.

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                • Dixie Darling says:

                  Just thinking the same thing…..

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              • jello333 says:

                As far as violence goes, I’ve noticed a difference between blacks and Mexicans (and this is just from what I’ve seen personally). The vast majority of Mexicans who commit violent crimes or just think they’re “bad” in general are involved in gangs. The ones who aren’t, I’ve never had any problems with, regardless of age. On the other hand, while a lot of the black troublemakers are also in gangs, there are many, many more who aren’t… who just seem to have a violent streak unrelated to any affiliation.

                Also, in the black community, you’ll see a lot of average people defending black thugs. Yes there are some black people who don’t, but a large percentage (hopefully not a majority) do. But among Mexicans, those people and families who aren’t in any way associated with gangs don’t like them any more than other people do.

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                • Kitty Smith says:

                  There are plenty of so-called “upper-class” blacks and wealthy blacks who defend black savagery, too. Very few blacks will speak against “their people”. Look at holder and o-bama. It’s always about the solidarity of their skin color for almost all of them. It’s what drives them; anything else is secondary. Very few blacks will stand up and speak the truth, and may God bless and protect those who do. Average blacks are easily propagandized and led to a belief. Don’t confuse them with details, truth and logic. Most of them are not at all cerebral and testing shows they have lower IQs than whites, Latinos, and Asians, no matter what country they’re living in. That’s why they’re so easily brainwashed. Their racism and victimhood is just like a religion to them and the brainwashing begins in the cradle.

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            • Kitty Smith says:

              I think that depends on the state. In the west, southwest and FL, it’s a done deal. But you’re probably right when it comes to the heartland, upper Midwest and northeast.

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  35. Shay Davis says:

    Interesting: I was just prompted in an e-mail to verify my signature at Whitehouse.gov for this petition and when I click on it – it is there no more.

    Petition Title: seek justice against Louis Head, stepfather of Mike Brown.

    On Monday, Nov. 24 immediately following the announcement of no indictment against Darren Wilson, Louis Head shouted the now infamous words “Burn this bitch down” not just once but repeating it. And over a microphone.Louis Head was captured on video as he did this. He himself gave the order that started the riots, destruction and fires that followed. Louis Head is guilty of inciting a riot, which is a felony. He should be arrested, and tried in a court of law.If found guilty, Louis Head should be required to pay for ALL damages that resulted from the rioting “protesters”, and serve time in prison.

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  36. illtakeanything says:

    There have been so many crimes I’ve lost count

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  37. whodoneit says:

    In the PC world, blacks are automatically innocent of any wrong doing. They are constantly killing each other – and nobody bats an eye. It’s okay. When they kill a member of another race, the race baiting industry does summersaults playing it down and literally hiding it, because that’s okay too. But if a self defending non-black sends one of these barbaric slugs to the hell they deserve – the world starts to burn. We need to take that world back. And a good start would be to stop putting “them” in charge – if you catch my drift. Been there – done that – disaster.

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  38. lovelyd24 says:

    Can someone please post a link to Zemir Begic Facebook (if that is allowed) I can’t seem to find him.

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  39. Les says:

    Maybe I am reading the news reports wrong, but weren’t there 4 attackers? They caught two and two (a black youf and an Hispanic youth) are still on the loose?

    I don’t use twitter (career killer), but the hashtag #BlackLIESMatter would be appropriate for the destruction caused by the false Ferguson narrative.

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    • Mr. Izz says:

      You are correct. To be honest, I have no idea how they caught the first two. Hopefully they’ll snitch on their buddies.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      Thumbs up on the hashtag! 🙂

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    • libby says:

      It sounds so much better as two on one than as four on one (the attacking racist sound so much less like a racist mob when its written as two on one instead of four on one).
      This is the lying media that brought you saint skittles and saint swisher of sweet, recall

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  40. Chip Bennett says:

    The Bosnian community in St. Louis is strong and close-knit. They are good, hard-working people. I have worked with several.

    Whether this was Knockout, a thrill kill, a gang initiation, or just random evil, it was absolutely racially motivated.

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  41. Les says:

    There were four attackers according to Fox2. They only released the racial profile on the two runners. I doubt they released information regarding the other two “juveniles” who were apprehended.

    I hope they are all charged as adults as they felt they were adult enough to kill a grown man in front of his wife and steal her phone. Imagine beating someone to death with hammers and possibly bricks (read that from a comment on a news site, man’s friend stopped to help victim) and then stealing a phone from the distraught victim’s wife. How is it possible to separate yourself from humanity to such a degree as to make this a possibility?

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    • libby says:

      Some articles mention the two arrested in the headline and ignore the other two (cuz two on one doesnt sound as bad as four on one)
      they are sure are brave when its four on one, cowards

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  42. lovelyd24 says:

    There you have it folks. Nothing to see here. Just some juveniles with hammers, and Begic didn’t get attacked until HE got out of his car, and the authorities don’t believe the barbaric attack had anything to do with the events in Ferguson.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-beaten-death-hammers-st-louis-police-say-n258686

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  43. StormyeyesC says:

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  44. StormyeyesC says:

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      VERY attractive couple. That’s probably what set the savages off in the first place and prompted them to hone in on this particular vehicle. I think that’s what happened in the Christian/Newsome murders in Knoxville, TN – attractive white couple, young and not street smart.

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  45. 7delta says:

    His wife was in the car? Dear dog. I’m glad they didn’t harm her, but what they did do, she’ll never recover from. I hope she will at least find some peace and comfort. I’m sorry for her, her husband and their families.

    That said and meant, why do I have this feeling the murderers may have just kicked a hornet’s nest? The black community just thinks they have it bad. Compared to the poor in the rest of the world, our ‘poor’ are wealthy, coddled and catered to. The Bosnians know exactly what bad is. I’m not sure there are enough PC bullies in every single nook or cranny of progressive and black America to make them to go quietly back to what they fled. Good for them. Keep it peaceful, unless it’s self defense, then do what you have to protect yourself and your family. But do it. Maybe Americans will finally wake up and join them to say, “Enough!” It’s time.

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    • Les says:

      Never trust the comment section! From an updated story (wife not mentioned, hopefully not present):

      Suad Nuranjkovic, 49, who attended Sunday night’s protest, said he and Begic were heading home from a bar on Gravois Avenue. Begic was driving and Nuranjkovic was in the passenger seat when a group of at least five teens started banging on the car. Nuranjkovic said he got out of the car and hid in a parking lot across the street during the attack.

      “I was afraid that if one of them had a gun, they were going to shoot me, so I didn’t know what to do,” he said.

      Nuranjkovic said the attack has made him fearful to live in his own neighborhood.

      “The picture is in my head, what I saw,” he said. “I don’t know why this is happening to Bosnians. We could go around and shoot people, too, but we just want peace.”

      Seldin Dzananovic, 24, said the teens with the hammers approached him farther north on Gravois about an hour before the attack on Begic. He said he was able to fight them off, suffering only cuts to his hands and neck.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        So…..one Bosnian fought off 4-5 safari savages with hammers? Just think what would have happened if the Bosnian dude had his own hammer.

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      • jason says:

        confirmation of 2nd attack by same safari pack, both targeted at Bosnian/Caucasians

        Will Holder fly in, President make speeches to the nation and the UN?

        Thankfully this could have been worse but seems to have been somewhat limited thanks to quick action by the local PD.

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    • Just Tea says:

      The wife is going to make an excellent witness for the Prosecution. Hopefully they will all face charges as adults.

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    • libby says:

      The richest Africans in the entire world live in the USA and they complain like there is no tommorrow

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      • 7delta says:

        I heard a black commentator, maybe Kevin Jackson, say that if American blacks were a country unto themselves they would be the 11th (?. Near or in the top 10) richest country in the world. I wonder if that includes entitlement programs? Either way, they are rich compared to the rest of the world. Most have no idea what real poverty is like. It’s not that I want them to know abject poverty, but I do think it’s time to start phasing out the gravy train. It’s done them no good at all. Work is not a dirty word. But until we get the feds out of taxing and regulating companies out of the country and eliminating, through the same, their big donors’ competition, we aren’t going to have new jobs. Stop that, bring back an environment conducive to entrepreneurship and job creation. Let people work, not ride the gravy train. Responsibility builds character. Goodness knows some of these people are wholly impoverished in that area.

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  46. StormyeyesC says:

    I have to ask why these minors were even out in the stress after 1 am?

    Bosnian community in St. Louis outraged over fatal hammer attack in Bevo Mill neighborhood

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

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    • jetstream says:

      Bevo Mills (from Wikipedia):
      Many people left a dangerous situation in Bosnia and Croatia behind and today much of the Bevo Mill neighborhood is populated with immigrants, particularly Bosnian Americans and Croatian Americans. St. Louis is now home to the largest Bosnian population per capita outside of Europe. An estimated 70,000 Bosnians live in the St. Louis metro area.

      In 2010 Bevo Mill’s racial makeup was 74.2% White, 13.8% Black…

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