The DeAndre Joshua Murder

DeAndre JoshuaDeAndre Joshua, 20, was murdered on the same night of the Saint Louis Grand Jury announcement. DeAndre was shot in the head, and then a flammable liquid poured on him and set afire inside his vehicle.

DeAndre Joshua also fits the social profile of several eye-witnesses who gave the police/FBI statements and testified before the Grand Jury in the Mike Brown shooting case.  If that were the only coincidence it might be easy to dismiss.  Alas, it’s not. Out of an abundance of caution for other witnesses we are avoiding outlining the most direct connections. 

As you are aware DeAndre  was an employed black male, with no history of drug use or illicit behavior.  In the Canfield Community marijuana is not considered illicit, nor does weed really qualify as drug use – it’s as common as tobacco.  DeAndre was also a friend of Dorian Johnson who is currently under protection.

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Obviously his friend, Dorian Johnson is very alarmed, understandably so. On the  night before the Grand Jury announcement, there were considerable nerves amid a select group in the Ferguson community.

As the attention of a nation turned to the grand jury decision, and also to the demands of the Justice for Mike Brown coalition, Dorian Johnson was potentially going to be the recipient of a tremendous amount of angst.  Several people were looking for DeAndre and Dorian.

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Dorian was in hiding – DeAndre was vulnerable.

Another witness who falls into this almost identical profile is Witness #35, who has been identified under the name “Viron”.  However, even the FBI agents who interviewed Viron are unsure of his actual identity.

Witness #35 presented himself for FBI interview with an “uncle”, and a female attorney.  When it came to identify himself, well, the ambiguity is almost unbelievable were it not documented by the federal authorities.  (See Page #32)

Witness #35 would not give his real name, nor his social security number, nor his address or contact information, and would only sign his statement with an alias.

In hindsight, and against the backdrop of the death of DeAndre Joshua, the reluctance of Witness #35 might lead a researcher to understand a prescient fear was not unfounded.

However, social media is identifying a profile that fits a connection to Dorian as described in the affidavit, Viron becomes Devorion Livingston.   Devorion is a friend to both eye-witness and robbery cohort Dorian Johnson, along with the murdered DeAndre Joshua.

Given the relationships, the connections, and the documented associations, Devorion fits the profile of Witness #35 who gave the painful to read testimony to the FBI where they were consistently reminding him, and warning him, about the risks of lying about the events.   Witness #35 read his testimony here.

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Devorion Livingston is also pictured below with Dorian Johnson last year at Canfield apartment complex.  Note the vehicle in the background:

DeAndre Joshua murder […]  Authorities say a pile of broken glass and blood lay beside the white Pontiac Grand Prix Joshua was found inside. (link)

Viron and Dorian Johnson

Yes, that’s a White Grand Prix behind Dorian Johnson (purple shirt) and Devorian Livingston.

Both Dorian Johnson and Devorion Livingston found out about DeAndre’s brutal murder at approximately the same time.

Dorian Johnson, who is in protective custody, was understandably freaking out.

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Below you can see how Devorion Livingston payed homage to his now murdered friend the day he found out.

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Apparently the three Canfield friends, Devorion, Dorian and DeAndre, knew each other for quite some time.

However, prior to the grand jury announcement Devorion Livingston and his pregnant wife (?) got the heck outta dodge Ferguson.   (click to enlarge and read the FB narrative)

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Obviously DeAndre Joshua didn’t leave Ferguson – he was murdered last Monday in Canfield Greens Apartment complex, mere yards away from where Mike Brown was shot.

So the ultimate question becomes is this just mere coincidence?  Dorian, Devorian and DeAndre being close friends.  Dorian in hiding, Devorian having left town, and DeAndre now murdered.   A person would have to be exceptionally obtuse not to see the connections.

But if it’s not a coincidence, then why?

Street Justice Rules – Witness #14 gives a chilling account of what would happen to these kids if they told the wrong story – and what were the risks.

Initially Witness #14 talked to State investigators – however, in his August 12th statement he mentioned the false story surrounding the “hands up – don’t shoot” narrative;  and the  pressure from the community to tell lies in support of the construct (read here).

That initial statement prompted the FBI to come and visit Witness #14 specifically to talk about that aspect of his statement.

Within the FBI interview  -a day before he was scheduled to appear before the grand jury- Witness #14 tells the FBI not only about the “hand’s up” story being totally made up by the community, but also that Mike Brown’s step-dad, Louis Head, was the enforcer to insure compliance (read here).

Apparently Louis Head was the threat to make sure that all of the witnesses in/around Canfield Greens Apartment complex said the right things, the “hands up – don’t shoot” things.

Louis Head was also the person who gained notoriety by climbing upon a vehicle and shouting “Burn This Bitch Down” the night DeAndre was murdered…

…. The night DeAndre Joshua was indeed “burned down” while seated in his Grand Prix.

Witness #14 was scheduled to testify on September 25th at 10:30am.  He never showed up.

Perhaps these are all coincidences.  Perhaps.

However, perhaps Louis Head, and those of like-minded association, also hold the greatest motive for anger toward Dorian Johnson, and as a consequence toward anyone who was unsuccessful at getting Justice for Mike Brown.

DeAndre JoshuaSeveral of the eye-witnesses, who gave honest testimony to the Grand Jury, were, according to their own statements, warned immediately after the shooting to keep their mouths shut. All of the eye-witnesses were African American. If you read the reports the sense of fear about speaking the truth is overwhelming.

Many, if not all, of the witness statements outlined in police reports, FBI reports, and later in Grand Jury testimony -who testified to the factual events as outlined by officer Wilson, and whose testimony fit the physical and forensic evidence- were threatened by the local Canfield Greens community.

Was the murder of DeAndre Joshua an outcome of  a broken street code?  His family thinks so:

(Via Daily Mail) A man has died during the Ferguson riots just yards from where Michael Brown was shot dead. Residents on Canfield Drive said that DeAndre Joshua, 20, was shot whilst in his car though police at the scene refused to confirm any details.

DeAndre’s grandmother Renita Towns said that ‘somebody killed him’ during the carnage.

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She said that he graduated Beaumont High School and that he was working in Wal-Mart.

Family member Brian Joshua, 45, added: ‘He was a good kid, he’s gone to high school, he’s got a job, he’s not into drugs or any of that stuff.

‘I only saw him yesterday morning. He was a smart guy, he spoke cleanly, he was positive’.

Police took away DeAndre’s white Pontiac Grand Prix and interviewed witnesses around 11am.  A woman in her 20s broke down in tears and said: ‘I knew him, he was my twin’. (read more)

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This is a typical example of the sentiment, threats and fear:

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Here’s another example:

(pg. 197 GJ Vol #7)

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snitches get stitches

You can read through just this one report and read/see all of the people who would not assist law enforcement or the FBI out of FEAR. – CLICK HERE

Burn These Bitches“…

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FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — St. Louis County police say that a 20-year-old man whose dead body was found inside a car in Ferguson, Missouri, after riots erupted had been intentionally set on fire. (link)

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Sooner or later, the sheer scope of the connected facts make the claims of coincidence ring hollow.

In the interim, where’s the Justice for DeAndre Foundation?

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314 Responses to The DeAndre Joshua Murder

  1. kpm58 says:

    Is it just my lack of being not informed on the events or has Shahid gone silent.

    Liked by 2 people

  2. polk8dot says:

    One more thought on the Witness #35 interview – page 32.

    Upon being asked to sign the interview form, the witness states that he has changed his name recently. And then the idiot lawyer butts in, for the 1057th time, and states:
    We have to ensure that he (i.e. #35) “has the right to self-identity”. (…) “We wanna make sure that his original rights are really respected throughout whatever goes on through this, you know what I mean. And he has the right of self-determination. In the name of his forefathers. Can’t take that from him.”

    I did not realize that #35 was now claiming to be a free and sovereign nation of one, since the right to self-identity or self-determination are constructs of the international law as applied to nation-states.
    I bet this lawyer is undoubtedly another graduate of the Benjamin Crump Exclusively Black Affirmative Action Institute of Intellectual Midgetry, Progressivistic Ignorance, Juristic Ignominy and All-Abounding Communo-Racialism’.

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    • lovelyd24 says:

      We have to ensure that he (i.e. #35) “has the right to self-identity”. (…) “We wanna make sure that his original rights are really respected throughout whatever goes on through this, you know what I mean. And he has the right of self-determination. In the name of his forefathers. Can’t take that from him.”



    • StormyeyesC says:

      Polka, You have done so much work. This and a good previous analysis should be on the Crowdsourcing thread. Maybe copy and paste them there. Thanks

      Liked by 1 person

      • polk8dot says:

        I was hesitant about doing that since this is a protected thread. But now that I think about it, you are right. There is nothing in my comments that speaks to anything but the publicly released documents, so it should not cause any blowback. Good idea. Thank you. 🙂

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    • flaladybug says:

      Wasn’t there a video posted a few days ago of one of the guys who FBI arrested for plans to make pipe bombs? In that video, he discuses changing his name and declaring he is no longer required to abide by U.S. Law because of his new identity…..IIRC he was claiming the “Moorish Angle” and denouncing his American Citizenship with regards to his upcoming court appearance. ( I could be COMPLETELY confused as it wasn’t a recent video but worth looking into.)


      • flaladybug says:

        Witness #35 , IMHO, has ALOT in common with the guy I was referring to in above post Olajuwan Ali. He changed his name in April of 2013 and declare himself a Nationalist/ Moorish ancestor or whatever the heck he said. He explains it all in the video posted a few stories back about the arrest by the FBI for the attempted purchase of materials to make pipe bombs…..using his girlfriends EBT CARD NO LESS!! Could this be the same person??


        • StormyeyesC says:

          I don’t believe he would be a witness to the MB shooting. I think that is a new way to get out of taxes, to say you are an “indigenous person”. I would tend to doubt that #35 was him


      • polk8dot says:

        I haven’t seen that video but if accurate it would explain a lot in regards to the ‘new type’ of protester- instigator-agitator. It would clearly point towards some person or entity putting a lot of thought, preparation and resources into creating that ‘new’ type of ‘social-movement participant’, brainwashed to the hilt yet completely and utterly unaware of his/her own dependence and how much of a pawn they are.
        I seem to recall some ties/links to Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Palestinian-organized and supported ‘resistance fighters’.
        Coming up with the ‘Self-identity’ claims as means of extricating oneself from the confines of the US legal system sounds like a ‘brilliant idea’ of just such a ‘brain trust’.

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  3. Worc1 says:

    I found an article in The Riverfront Times written back on August 10th where an Anthony Livingston says he was Mike Browns cousin and best friend, here:

    Could be Devorion’s brother. He says he is 21 years old and he’s a manager at the Family Dollar and a cook at Bailey’s Range. Found his picture. Anthony is on the right, on the left is another cousin Maurice Ewings. Calvin’s son?


  4. doodahdaze says:

    Eventually the law will do them in. Social Justice is not the law. A combination of voters tossing out the liberals, and the courts following state decisis will win, in the end. This was the Blitz. The Obama Blitz on America. He will not win in the end.


  5. doodahdaze says:

    This is easy. Actual Americans will fight. The BGI has no chance of victory. None, Zero, Zip. Will not happen. From out of nowhere someone will step forth. I do not know who but they will. We have had a lot more than this crapola thrown in our way. A lot more. Americans will not allow this.

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  6. commonsense says:

    Anthony Livingston appears to be Big Mike’s roommate at Canfield. Assuming Devorian is his brother, or are they the same person? Photo of Anthony Livingston is in the second link. These blogs from Riverfronttimes are great:


    • commonsense says:

      Sorry, just saw Worc1 posted this. But, it’s safe to say that Anthony Livingston and Big Mike were living together at Canfield and he is the person in GJ Testimony Journal 13 that I have chronicled that identifies himself as Big Mike’s best friend and roommate


    • thevelvetkitten says:

      fairly new to this site but have been doing lots of reading.. the amount of detail and accuracy on this site is refreshing…I could have sworn I read in testimony from what appeared to be an elderly lady that it was a girl that mike was living with. It was in the statement from the two ladies sitting on their porch..i am thinking @ page 7-9. Sorry. I thought I had bookmarked it meaning to write the site moderator as I remember them asking about who Mike possibly was living with.


  7. polk8dot says:

    Final thought on Witness #35 – page #35
    I forgot this one, but this is one spot I truly cracked up at. The detective has been asking him throughout to mark ‘X’ where the police car was, where each man was standing, where Brown fell down, etc. Upon being done with that, they asked #35 to initial the photo or map (sorry, but the transcript is unintelligible at times so I can’t really tell which one it was) to certify that the police did not put the marks on there, but he did himself.
    And the punk says in return –>>> ‘put All Rights Reserved above’. (…) ‘All Rights Reserved’.

    Now, I realize by their social networking pictures and tributes that these yoots are all about money. Stealing money, making money illegitimately, displaying money. It seems to be the most prevalent and readily recognizable social status symbol in their community.
    But to seriously ask a detective, in the middle of your police interview, to copyright for you a picture and/or map someone else took and printed out, just because you put a couple of ‘Xs’ on it is just beyond the pale. Was he thinking this is going to be a source of income for him?

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    • StormyeyesC says:

      He is a rapper, you know, he think he is famous, or may be

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    • Mist'ears Mom says:

      Viron has a sister IIRC, that would be the girl the other witness was talking about. You all in Witness’s 35 interview, the DET calls him VIRON…pg 8. (middle pg) It’s typed on the page! It wasn’t redacted, they made a huge mistake which is funny considering the name changes, signing with an X and all.


      • polk8dot says:

        Yes, I saw the same non-redacted name.
        1. I guess this is what he now demands to be addressed as, just a single name. Maybe he thinks he’s going to be another Madonna?
        2. I wonder in how many other places witness names were left clearly legible. Is that how poor DeAndre Joshua got his ‘stitches for snitches’ comeuppance to catch up to him? If it is, then it should be prosecuted in some fashion. There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY anywhere in government, and that’s how people get hurt or dead.


  8. yankeeintx says:

    Somewhere I heard a reference to Deandre always being referred to as “Twin”. It’s not necessarily because they are all extremely close, it is because Deandre is a twin. He has a twin brother, and everyone refers to him as Twin, like a nickname. Here is a picture of him and his twin.


  9. yankeeintx says:

    While there is no memorial foundation, the family is trying to raise funds to bury him.


  10. whodoneit says:

    What has happened to DeAndre Joshua is a heartbreaking atrocity and needs to be investigated to the fullest extent by law enforcement. A thug was killed in self defense, and a law abiding young man was murdered in cold blood for telling the truth about it – “executed” by a member of his own community for not following the proper “race code” narrative. So another young black man in Ferguson is dead – truly “murdered” this time. Where’s the outrage? Where’s the outcry for justice? Where is the sympathy for the family of this young black man who’s only “crime” was telling the truth? It’s nowhere to be found because they killed him themselves, and black on black crime is totally acceptable. The death of this decent young man is nothing to them. Only the death of a thug who was killed by a “white” man meets their warped agenda. Sick!

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    • Gramma says:

      Where is the outrage? Where are the reports by the MEDIA? Where is AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, the NAACP? Where is ERIC HOLDER and President OBAMA? My heart goes out to this family. My prayers go out to his Grandmother.


    • Zarus says:

      whodoneit you are the first to state what I am thinking. It is unlikely this is coincidence, it is most likely that this young man is dead , a black young man, because he testified and his testimony did not align with what the thugs and brown family wanted. I grieve for this young man. This is nothing short of terrorism and racism if he was murdered for his testimony. The question is, who is behind it? Do you know how scared the rest of the witnesses must be? Where is the outrage? Where is the media? The outrage is with us, black and white Americans. I pray for his family.


  11. It’s hard in this blizzard of info to keep things straight. But I think that the hand-written sample is from the diary by Witness #40 (?) who was dismissed by many commenters here (myself included) as having probably made it all up based on stuff s/he saw on TV, The Treehouse, and other blogs. IOW, totally unreliable, possibly totally fabricated. True? Or not true?


    • About DeAndre Joshua – I share the outrage expressed by many here. My own thought is that he was intelligent and a good boy, and would have become a successful man, had he been allowed to live. I am very sad and angry that he was killed and share the suspicions of other Treepers here.
    • Witness #14 strikes me as an adult, maybe 40 or even older. He’s fired a gun. He’s been shot himself and can extrapolate that to another time and situation. He’s getting SS. He feels very responsible for another person – wife or girl friend, has a conscience and respect for the law and for truth. He speaks excellent English and even corrects himself at one point. (They was… they were…) He is somewhat future-oriented, as opposed to the young 20s crowd which can’t think farther than one hour ahead.


  12. JunieG says:

    “Black Lives Matter” only when they fit the narrative.

    It was over quick for Trayvon and Michael Brown.

    Not so for this guy. His own loving gentle wanting only justice peeps saw to it that he died HORRIBLY.

    God help you if you, black or white victim of violence, don’t fit the narrative.

    This is more than murder. This is sadistic murder, characterized by disproportionate violence, and meant to send out a message to anyone else who snitches on any gentle giant and his perfect loving family.

    Yet – silence. If one considers suffering a factor, this is a way worse killing than Mike Brown. Funny how no one considers this horrific death on the same scale as Mike Brown, or is screaming for justice for him. He was not killed by a white, you see, therefore it doesn’t matter.


    • JunieG says:

      This is just another of the thousands of killings of black men by other black men every year in America. If they only cared as much for the young men in their communities dying today as much as they do for slaves that were whipped 200 years ago, this movement might have some credibility.


  13. Tempest says:

    Evidence that there was a conspiracy to silence people:
    “I swore to [?]” (Ewing/Louis/Other?)
    “I swore to him aswell – they’d kill us all”
    “If they hear talkin’ it gonna mess things up”
    “EXACTLY bro [Whydyask?]. Whatya gotta worry about?”

    Who would kill who & why?


  14. justice099 says:

    If we are identifying names in here, shouldn’t we put this thread back on password protection? Or did many miss that protection was removed?

    Be careful mentioning names of witnesses.


  15. joshua says:

    where are the protests over this young man’s murder? where are the protests over the Capital Police shooting Mariam Carey in DC when she was merely in the wrong place with her baby…unarmed black woman!!

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  16. McGuffin says:

    Forgive me here, I have a terrible cold, and can’t concentrate if this has been answered r is obvious BUT….WHY IS THIS MURDER NOT BGI OR MAINSTREAM NEWS??? .Seriously. They have the worldwide attention with hundreds of pumped up blacks just waiting for something else to trigger them. One would think this real murder right there at the “Mike Brown area” would be gold.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      No gold to be had. The perps were (most likely) black. This is an embarrassment for the BGI AND for the media who kept trying to sell Ferguson to the public as a “Peaceful Civil Rights Protest”.


  17. Sarah says:

    At 6:33 mark, Pagait Crenshaw mentions knowing Viron, playing video games with him. She said this after a question (inaudible) about how she knew Dorian or Mike Brown.


    • sundaybu says:

      I remember hearing that name when the video first came out- I thought she said “Byron” back then


    • flaladybug says:

      I had commented about that before….wasn’t sure if I was hearing it correctly. Doesn’t she say also, VERY QUIETLY, that she “had a personal thing with him”….talking about MB?? I have trouble hearing sometimes due to playing in a band for years so I was hoping for a second opinion LOL 😉


  18. His (Deandre) Facebook account appears to be deleted tonight. Interesting comments to follow on this new FB page titled:

    Who Killed DeAndre Joshua?


  19. archer52 says:

    From a former, now thankfully retired, police detective- you do OUTSTANDING WORK!! I have used your website to catch people up to speed on critical issues since Zimmerman. And yes, this murder was a message.

    Here is my best judgement. First- everybody knew a few hours after the shooting that Johnson AND HIS F-ING LAWYER were lying. That shooting scene was just to obvious. Too much physical, too many witnesses.

    Second- Neither he or his lawyer will go to jail. An unequal application of justice. And something the current case in front of the Supreme Court is looking at. Can threats and obvious lies that lead to potential or real harm be illegal?? And if so, does the stepfather go to jail? Does Al go to jail? Or Jessie? Or half of the New Black Panthers. One would argue that putting out a death warrant backed by money is over the top. So, what is that about?

    Third- Johnson flipped. He told the public one thing, but told his friends the truth- including the dead kid, who may have gave it up. At some point, when talking with the FBI- there is a real threat of going to jail for a long time if you lie. If the lawyer knows the truth and lets his client lie, he goes to jail, and it doesn’t take much for the FBI to become convinced.

    Fourth- so that means Johnson is in hiding, trying to get out of there, his friends and family are left behind, as targets. I expect nothing more from his kind. The murder was a message. And yes, by other blacks, probably Blood gang members, as Brown appears to be one.

    And lastly, Yes Obama created the mayhem for elections. Holder for race. Sharpton for cash. And the rest just because they like to watch things burn. Obama and Holder had no more use for Brown or Ferguson after the elections. Holder will use this and other shootings to push for nationalized standards for police behavior- or as we say in the business “Let the black thugs rule method of policing.”

    Welcome to the world we as police officers have been trying to warn you about.


  20. archer52 says:

    It seems my last post didn’t make it, so I apologize if it duplicates in some fashion.

    As a retired, thankfully, career police detective, I wanted to let you know what OUTSTANDING research you do. I’ve used your website as a reference every since Zimmerman, to persuade the ignorant among us.

    As far as this murder you all are right on. First, it was a message. I’m becoming convinced Johnson flipped. He told the public one story and his friends the truth. The lies were so bad, and the crime scene so obvious, everybody knew within hours what really happened. However, PC prevented the police from doing what they needed to do to turn the kid, as lawyers and feds moved in. So, we put up with the lies for too long.

    Second, Once inside a formal interview with the FBI, Johnson AND HIS LAWYER had to be careful. Lie to the FBI, or if they think you are lying to the FBI, and you will go to jail- period. Far too much power, but that’s how they roll. So, I’m sure the truth came out.

    Third, Brown appears to be Blood. If so, his cohorts killed the kid in order to send a message. No record, working, this kid was ripe to be the example set. THIS is the reality of the world police operate in. It is violent, base, and often makes no sense to a civilized person.

    Fourth, Obama amped up this blacks for an election. Holder did it for the racial issues. He wants to federalize police agencies on how to treat blacks- we called it the “let the black thugs rule method of policing.” Instead of forcing them to conform to civilized behavior, he wants to let the tribes run the place. Al did it for the money, as did Jessie. The others do it because they like to watch things burn.

    Lastly, that gives the police a great opportunity to remind the people just how close to the surface anarchy truly lives. You think Ferguson was fun, just wait.

    If the people want trouble, a good time to do it would be around 2016 and then Obama could say, “Listen, there is just too much violence for a fair election. I’ll just stay a little longer until things calm down.” Of course, Bill and Hillary would be calling some old friends from Arkansas who handled their last troublemakers. So that will be fun to watch.

    Seriously, great job. Keep it up. And get ready, this isn’t over. And the police cannot protect you. It will be up to you.


  21. dadawg says:

    Wow! Great stuff! I can’t find this level of detail anywhere. Thanks!


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  23. Riversong says:

    Deandre Joshua was not in the neighborhood when Brown was shot and he never testified to the grand jury, as stated definitively by a spokesperson for the prosecutor’s office.

    But don’t let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories.


    • dmoseylou says:

      […] ” he never testified to the grand jury, as stated definitively by a spokesperson for the prosecutor’s office.”
      Please provide a link for your statement.

      What about Shawn Gray? Was he also a non-testifier?
      Second Ferguson Witness Reportedly Found Dead


    • PatrickSMcNally says:

      I have no reason to believe that he was a witness. But it is quite plausible that he may have been targeted as a friend of Dorian. You can’t determine that simply by whether he was a witness or not.

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