Mike Brown “Shot In The Top Of His Head” – Eric Holder Should Be Familiar With Defensive Shots To The Head – Specifically To The Top of The Head…

If, as Benjamin Crump has declared, a shot to the top of the head is evidence of “execution” then U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has some explaining to do… 

Major Hat Tip to Treeper ‘Legion of One’ who remembered a recent FBI shooting with considerable familiarity to the current shooting death of Mike Brown.

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U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder seems quite attached to persuing a civil rights investigation into the shooting death of Mike Brown.  Part of his investigative reasoning revolves around accusations from the Brown family attorney’s Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks.

The family attorney’s are claiming that 6’4″, 300lb, 18-year-old, “Big Mike” Brown was “executed”.  To support their claim they point to a recent autopsy they commissioned, and information they released, which reflects “Big Mike” Brown was shot six times, and one of those shots was to the top of his head.

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Mike Brown autopsy

According to Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump there is no way such a shot could be received if Officer Darren Wilson was simply shooting from a distance in self defense.

However, we’ve discovered a recent incident that could wipe out that claim entirely.

Ironically, an incident General Eric Holder should have much recent familiarity with.

With the Parks and Crump accusations in mind, and with the FBI investigation ongoing, we’d like to bring a recently released shooting investigation to your attention.   We are 100% certain the profile of this comparative case is well known by Attorney General Eric Holder.

How similar might the shooting cases be?   So similar, the investigative autopsy finding outlined the following passage (emphasis mine):

[…] One projectile entered the top of the head, passed through the brain and the base of the skull. It was recovered. Three projectiles entered the back; one exited and two were recovered in the body. Two projectiles passed through the left upper arm and re-entered the left chest. An additional projectile also entered the left chest(link)

For those following the Mike Brown shooting the similarity is eerie.

According to the released autopsy Mike Brown was shot six times.  In the citation above seven shots hit the body.   And other than the three shots to the back, that paragraph might easily be mistaken as a quote directly from the autopsy of Mike Brown; it wasn’t.

We are 100% certain Eric Holder is familiar with it because for this autopsy FBI agents were the shooters, and the subject shot was Ibragim Todashev.

The autopsy report partially outlined above was actually the autopsy of Igragim Todashev; a Florida resident connected to the Boston bombers:

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Ibragim Todashev was a Chechen American former mixed martial artist and a friend of suspected Boston Marathon bomber and former amateur boxer, Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

During questioning at his apartment in Orlando, Florida, he was shot dead by FBI agent Aaron McFarlane on May 22, 2013.    Todashev allegedly attacked the agent, with a pipe resembling a broomstick, while writing a statement about the Boston Marathon bombings and a triple homicide that took place in Waltham, Massachusetts on September 11, 2011.  (paraphrased from Wiki)

The Todashev shooting elicited a considerable amount of controversy partly because: there were several agents and law enforcement in the apartment, Todashev was not armed with a gun, and yet during questioning he was shot seven times, and killed.   Additionally:

The shot that entered at the top of the skull as well as the ones that penetrated through Todashev’s back were highly atypical of shootings carried out in self-defense.

Ongoing interest, and considerable controversy in the incident, was in part caused by the FBI’s suspicious behavior in the aftermath of the shooting.  The agency offered no official version of events and prevented a medical examiner from releasing the autopsy to the public, even as anonymous law-enforcement sources gave wildly conflicting accounts of what happened.  The federal government also aggressively deported the dead man’s acquaintances.

The FBI began a civil rights investigation into the shooting, and the claims by the officers/agents that they responded to protect themselves from a lunging Todashev.   As a result of the investigations several reports were generated:

DOJ Civil Rights Division 16 Page Report

A 161 Page Florida State Attorney General Report

And A 5 page Summary of the Florida Report

It is important to understand the narrow scope of these investigative efforts: they concern not whether the FBI and Massachusetts State Police acted wisely, appropriately, or negligently on the night in question, but whether those present are criminally liable.

Both reports concluded the killing occurred with the agent acting in self-defense, and find insufficient evidence to justify any criminal charges or additional investigation of the shooting.

But here’s the relevant aspect to the actual shot pattern, paying attention to the head shot, as the officers were being physically assaulted by an aggressive Todashev as he lunged forward.   And note there were two shot volleys; again similarity from witness accounts in the Mike Brown shooting:

… two of the wounds that form the second pattern, one to the crown of the left side of the head and the other to the top of the left shoulder—both with an extreme downward trajectory—are consistent with the Assisting Trooper’s account that Todashev was shot with a second volley, after he had fallen down, regained his footing, and lunged at the trooper at an approximately 45 degree angle.

The medical examiners further supported this inference by their observation that those two wounds could “likely” have occurred when Todashev was “falling.”

It is a fair inference that a body could be at a 45 degree angle to the ground both when it is falling as well as when rising.

Finally, the two entry wounds to the back—with a much less extreme downward trajectory angle—are consistent with the Assisting Trooper’s observation that Todashev’s body was twisting around as he was shot and fell, thus striking him in the back. The medical examiners further observed that those two wounds could “likely” have occurred as Todashev was twisting his body.

There were three or four shots in the first volley, and three or four in the second volley, for a total of seven shots. The DOJ report declares that the physical evidence is consistent with this account of events given by the state trooper and the FBI agent.

The shooting was cleared and the “atypical” gunshot wound to the head was pronounced to be as a result of the “lunging” or “rushing” Todashev.

Perhaps Mr. Eric Holder would be kind enough to call Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump and let them know the gun shot’s they are emphatically claiming as evidence of “execution”, are actually reconcilable given a recent FBI case of similar disposition.

Then again, such toning down the rhetoric would only apply if AG Holder was factually committed to reasonable investigative pause, prior to prosecution and speculative claims.

Eric Holder

SOURCE MATERIAL (For MSM)

Who was Ibragim Todashev – HERE

DOJ Investigative  Report – HERE

Florida Attorney General Report – HERE

Summary Report by Boston Herald – HERE

Initial Controversy of Shooting – HERE

Additional Analysis of Shooting – HERE

Additional story of Shooting – HERE

Autopsy Photographs – HERE 

todashev autopsy head shot

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198 Responses to Mike Brown “Shot In The Top Of His Head” – Eric Holder Should Be Familiar With Defensive Shots To The Head – Specifically To The Top of The Head…

  1. libby says:

    NataLIE Jackson pretended to know nothing about traumatic brain injury (tbi) as a threat to a concussed george zimmerman even though her website lists tbi as something she sues people for on behalf of her clients. White guy lyching 2.0

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  2. Witchy says:

    Nice Work Sundance.

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  3. libby says:

    When you’re trying to persecute a man for the color of his skin (or the skin color of his attacker) like they did with one george zimmerman, it helps if the treepers are on your side.
    Wolverines

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  4. Can’t get much more on point than this. This article outlining the similarity of the shots in the Todashev shooting and the Brown shooting, along with the final analyses of the trajectories of the shots should be sent to every MSM outlet. It would be interesting to see which outlets bite and run with the story.

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  5. ZurichMike says:

    Sundance, you rock! I wish I had an emoticon that shows me bowing. in awe. Great catch.

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  6. Lou says:

    that “assistant” needs to be exposed in the media. I wonder if they can check into who is paying him. this is a BGI hack. if he is exposed, a lot of people will “get it”.

    also, the comparison with the Boston bomber’s friend lunging forward headshot was brilliant.

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  7. philjourdan says:

    The rioters – and Brown’s parents – are not looking for the truth, just anything that can be turned into a conspiracy. The evidence is becoming clearer. Unfortunately in Obama’s America, evidence is irrelevant. The only thing that counts is who they pick as the scape goat. And how they destroy them.

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  8. Yakmaster says:

    Baden’s experience over decades has taught him that the top of head wound could be consistent with falling forward movement, just as was determined in the above mentioned autopsy. He said so on a couple occasions.
    The usefulness of this from a PUBLIC info pushback to Parks/Crump narrative is that it shows an autopsy determination by a qualified ME/forensic pathologist that CLEARED an FBI agent of a similar killing.
    As for Officer Wilson’s murder defense (should he wind up needing one), if I was his lawyer I’d call the Dr. who did that specific autopsy as an expert witness. Hope it doesn’t come to that.
    Holder has to know this FBI case, BUT he’s after the whole PD, not just Wilson—he’s just an excuse. Holder’s still probably terrorizing the Sanford PD using the bogus investigation of GZ as an excuse. He personally hates police departments and has used DOJ’s CRS attack dogs to go after them nationwide. He’s a bigoted Napolean on a war mission.

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  9. medtech says:

    I’m concerned that what the BGI will learn from this incident is that they should not attack police officers. they are a cohesive politically powerful group. i expect the next case will be against an individual like zimmerman. we will see in 6-9 months. i also expect them to put federal pressure on companies like gofundme to stop nationwide fundraising. they need to isolate and marginalize their victim, so they can get to an arrest, and then lawsuit payments.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      Completely agreed. The “wannabe cop” or “self-defense gun nut” is a pre-isolated target. The BGI shakedown artists will gravitate to easier targets if they encounter too much resistance here.

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  10. kittymyers says:

    I don’t know if you can access this, but someone has posted a video on FB showing the mere TWO SECONDS Officer Darren Wilson had to respond to a charging Michael Brown:

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    • stella says:

      kitty, if you put the video on a line by itself, with a line in between your text and the video, it shows up here.

      fify

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    • waltherppk says:

      Also it has to be considered that Officer Wilson had just been violently attacked with such force that he had a fractured skull and was probably stunned and seeing stars from the head trauma. So it is very understandable he would not be disposed to put up with any more sh#t from the felon who had only seconds before so violently battered him that the attack is easily in the realm of attempted murder. The taunting by the thug who was coming back to finish the job on the officer was an engraved invitation and justifiable homicide cause to be shot dead and the only deficiency about the officer’s performance is that the thug wasn’t shot even sooner, before he was able to injure the officer severely. No armed person would or should give any potential threatening assailant the advantage of taking a free shot at them before responding, and likely never would give such advantage of a first strike to a potential assailant as prerequisite to self defense. The “surprise attack” is the oldest trick in the book, and when a potential attacker is suddenly “closing the distance” instead of politely respecting the space of another person, particularly an armed person, …..it is already a situation that requires defensive response because that “interception” is an overtly threatening provocation and usual precursor to a violent attack. A potential victim of a violent assault does not need to wait for an attack to make good the inflicting of injuries upon them that break their bones where mayhem is the intent to render them stunned and defenseless …..but reasonably a person can infer by the aggressive closing of distance that an attack is imminent and is sufficient cause already to pull the trigger. If a potential attacker is allowed a free pass to take their best shot first, then that first blow may by itself be disabling or fatal so that the victim is unable to respond. So no quarter should be given to a potential attacker as if trusting they won’t kill a victim over whom they are prevailing. In the real world that “raging bull” is going to kill the matador if they can. The better strategy for winning the fight is not to first let the bull gore you and then to see how things proceed.

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        Guess the blacks expect Wilson to just get out of his cruiser and let Brown give him some more just because Brown might have been unarmed.

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        • waltherppk says:

          My threshold for violence in self defense is exactly where it should be and I’ll tell you it is a whole lot lower threshold than has been shown by others in these type shootings that have been thought by some really wierd irrational people to be somehow controversial shootings. To me these shootings involve no controversy whatever. The whole idea of self defense is to anticipate and intervene effectively before an adversary can make good their effort to injure you…..not to wait for that injury and then retaliate, as if it was some kind of tit for tat “game”. Self defense is definitely not a game of swapping licks, but is a life or death combat situation where you simply do not give the opponent the advantage including the benefit of the doubt where that is simply not reasonable.

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          • myopiafree says:

            Hi Walther, I agree. The one thing an officer is taught – is to keep the “perp” at a distance. Wilson was a good officer – and knew that. He would not have “closed” that 35 distance – but would have maintained it – for his own safety. The only way that the distance was “closed” was because Brown charged the officer. Then the shooting started. The high number of “hits” basically proves the fact of the charge. There would have been NO SHOOTING, if Brown had not attempted a “bums rush”. Any re-play before a Grand Jury, will show this to be true. Wilson had a spotless record for six years. He knew that he had no choice.

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        • John Galt says:

          Al Sharpton’s Rule of Proportional Force – you must submit to severe beating by unarmed thug – a perennial favorite disinformation BGI troll post.

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      • John Galt says:

        The bulk of the time to shoot is reaction time: deciding whether to shoot and getting the neurons firing to make the shot. Studies indicate that individual with gun out “cop” covering individual with holstered gun “perp” are on equal footing when “perp” is the one making the decision to draw and fire. In other words, the expected result is a tie when a practiced perp decides to draw and fire on a cop covering the perp with gun out. To take an extreme case, Bob Munden’s draw and fire was clocked at 2/100s of a second.

        Just one study:

        http://www.bluesheepdog.com/reaction-time-police-shooting-study/

        So cop staggers out of car having just been slugged in the eye by 300 lb thug. Thug is going to cover the distance between thug and cop in less than 2 seconds. Dazed cop has to first perceive that thug is attacking, decide to shoot, get neurons firing to shoot, aim at thug, and fire multiple shots. The bulk of the time will be spent on the “Holy crap, this maniac is charging, he’s going to kill me! I need to shoot him!” reaction phase.

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        • waltherppk says:

          I would submit that the 2 seconds was not enough time for that thought process to occur and it was only instinct and “motor memory” with gun in hand that was governing the officer’s actions. Events had hit that mark where “training took over” for the cop and he wasn’t really “thinking” anything….especially something preposterous like having time to do a race based analysis as a factor even remotely involved with the circumstances.

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        • waltherppk says:

          For most self defense shootings, events occur so quickly and “automatically” that the shooter themselves may not be entirely clear about what just happened.

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          • OldIADGuy says:

            An excellent synopsis of how a person (Officer) reacts to sudden threats. I might add that if or when Brown raised his hands, he mentally disarmed the officer. When an officer sees a suspect’s arms raised after they issue a command, they automatically assume the suspect has given up. Add any statement with the words, “shoot me” while the suspect’s arms are raised, the officer’s mental process should indicate “NO,” I don’t shoot people with their arms raised. These acts, if they occurred as has been reported, would have further delayed Officer Wilson reaction time.

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        • P.Spinach says:

          True, I didn’t think of that part. Reaction time.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          When I pretend to shoot at the video, without even using an actual gun to slow me down, that’s what I find, too. I consistently don’t feel the instinct to begin rounding until I’m positive that I’m seeing him charging which takes a substantial fraction of a second. After that, I’m consistently only able to get off 4 rounds. Like somebody said, good shooting on the officer’s part.

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    • ftsk420 says:

      I said this yesterday the average human can cover 21 feet in 1.5 seconds

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    • P.Spinach says:

      Remember too, Big Mike had turned around, started taunting while he was already walking back towards Officer Wilson. The cop had also advanced toward the perp when he chased him to arrest him. In those 2 secs, cop would have shot 3 times each second. As the oaf got closer, cop’s aim improved. He only had maybe 1 second given both had advanced toward each other until Big Mike lunged. That definitely changes the dynamic of the 6 shots. The pants being down around his knees is also a sign that Big Mike was lunging forward, because as he partly lunged and fell from the shots, momentum took the massive body forward while the pants through inertia stayed back not hinged to the body. Imagine a cannon ball catapulting out of the cannon. Solves the mysterious of the pants staying behind.

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      • P.Spinach says:

        Try this as a test. Wear loose heavy pants below your waist on your butt. You might not even have to be 300 lbs. Then make a sudden dash forward. Guaranteed your pants will stay behind.

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        • kinthenorthwest says:

          Ok a bit embarrassing but here goes..I was using the BR one day when I heard a loud crash so quickly got up, pulled up my jeans and started running towards the noise only to land on my face. (Hadn’t zipped my pants prior to starting to run). My cat had somehow knocked over a very large vase.
          So How in the H3LL do they run in those pants.

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          • ftsk420 says:

            They don’t unless they pull them up first which these days they don’t seem to do. People have been wearing jeans like this for a very long time over the years they seem to get lower to the point they don’t bother pulling them up to run or even loot a store

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          • P.Spinach says:

            Oh, dear! LOL

            Thankfully, maybe Big Mike started to trip due to his pants which is why officer in that millisec of time left finally got him. Otherwise I really believe Wilson would be dead now, no. 73 police fatality of the year on a supposedly routine check.

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          • redrum says:

            “So How in the H3LL do they run in those pants.”

            Lot’s of practice.

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      • ftsk420 says:

        There’s a video on you tube which I won’t post here do to the n bomb being used but his pants are down below his ass and he runs after a car and falls and I would bet it’s the same exact way Mike went down

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      • doodahdaze says:

        The perps in Brown case and the other Perp in the knife case are similar actions.

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    • georgiafl says:

      The rush forward was 6-7 long steps and 2 seconds for the 54 year old. Brown might have made it in fewer steps and seconds.

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      • P.Spinach says:

        I’d say only 2 steps at the most because both had advanced toward each other. As soon as Wilson registered Big Mike was not surrendering and in fact started to lunge at him is all he needs understand, to shoot.

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    • ctdar says:

      What Dave says about being amazed at how Wilson got six shots off gives credence to why only 3 bullets found? Maybe he just got off 3 and due to the motion and trajectory reason why documented 6 holes coz bullets entered twice as been reported ?
      Thanks for posting video kittymyers.

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  11. joshua says:

    Add Mariam Carey, in Washington DC last year, who was riddled with bullets in her own car by Holder’s Capital Police Force, altho she was ALONE, UNARMED AND UNTHREATENING…trying to escape their attacks…..

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  12. FoxyGranny says:

    The scheme team isn’t interested in he truth, but a narrative that supports their cause.

    The officer’s safety is questionable. Witness protection program perhaps? Can any of us imagine how the officer must feel? What will be the officer and family’s new reality?

    Question, a new report states Michel Brown had marijuana in his system at time of death. Has that been legitimatly confirmed or speculation?

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  13. mung says:

    Do we have a height on Wilson? Because if he is of average height, there is no way he could have made that shot with Brown on his knees without lifting the gun way up to do it. If he is going to make an “execution style” shot why not to the temple at a normal angle?

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      That was something I was wondering. Looking at some the videos I bet he is of average height of 5’10” to maybe 6′ since he does not appear to really stand above anybody.

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    • stella says:

      He could, if Brown had his head down, charging towards him, or if Brown lowered his head when he was hit in the temple by a bullet.

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      • mung says:

        Right, that is my point, not only is Brown charging at Wilson one way that the shot could be fired, I believe physics say it is the ONLY way that shot could be fired.

        Even at the same height, Wilson would be in a very awkward position to get that angle of attack if Brown was kneeling as they are suggesting. If Wilson is ANY shorter, it goes from awkward to impossible. Keeping in mind that Wilson holds his handgun the correct way, rotating your hand in a downward position and being able to pull the trigger is tough. Also, if it were execution style, wouldn’t that required that bullet to be a contact range shot?

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        • P.Spinach says:

          I read the distance between body and police officer was at the end 6 to 7 feet. None of the shots according to Baden demonstrated proximity of gun to body.

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  14. wasntme says:

    Given the current administrations history of lying and changing history to suit their agenda, if this does surface in the MSM, they will do their little dance and pretend its not relevant.

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  15. kpm58 says:

    I doubt that Holder recognized the similarities of the autopsy findings but I bet a dollar to a donut that someone in the FBI did. Maybe why the DOJ wanted a third autopsy so they could try and find differences to argue against the shootings being nearly the same.

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  16. wasntme says:

    This may not be helpful, especially the comment at the end. Put yourself int he shoes of a slimy defense attorney. They will turn it into there was no way he could have got off six shots and he must have started firing BEFORE he rushed him. That and I think he is going to have an uphill battle with the fact that the kid beat him up, walked away, then came back, and that’s when he was shot. The defense will turn that into he killed him out of revenge for beating him up.

    Its a long way from being over. I just hope they get a jury full of people who can actually think for themselves. That will be a challenge in today’s society.

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    • mung says:

      That’s good because he didn’t fire 6 shots before he rushed him. He fired 2 shots, the first 4 holes seem to have been from inside the car when Brown was trying to get the gun.

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      • arttart1983 says:

        mung ~ are you saying there were 4 shots inside the car while Big Mike was attacking Officer WIson? I’ve only read there was 1 shot fired inside the vehicle.

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  17. Ship Wreck says:

    I think he tripped on his sagging pants when he was charging officer Wilson. I drive a transit bus and I see these guys trip face first all the time when they are running for the bus. It may explain how the top of the head was aligned when Brown received the wound to the top of his head. Look at the photo of him lying on the ground and the position of his pants.

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    • ackbarsays says:

      I was just about to post a question about the pants. That’s the thing I’ve heard nobody talk about. They were down around his hips, most likely because he started running and wasn’t holding them up.That’s also consistent with his arms being down to his sides. The body LOOKS LIKE he was running full speed and was hit by gunfire.

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    • John Galt says:

      Saggy pants get a lot of thugs killed. Reaching to pull up saggy pants is reported as “shot when reaching for waistband”.

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      • OldIADGuy says:

        Oh so true.

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      • waltherppk says:

        While watching the first part of the Ferguson riots I had an idea that somebody could have made a few bucks as a street vendor of suspenders embroidered with the message, “pants up, don’t shoot”

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      • P.Spinach says:

        When Big Mike went for his saggy pants with the right dominant hand, the officer shot. Could very well be. His arm was under his body in final position and Dorian did state his hands were at uneven levels. Syncs with the 19 yr old female who suggested Mike’s hands were near his belly. I mean, so which is it? Hands up or hands down. One hand up, the other reaches for the pants? What a mess these perps are. Where’s momma and poppa to tell him to wear his pants up and not to grab at clerks in a store. I noticed Big Mike was fast in the video. I’m pretty sure the old guy sustained some sort of neck and back injury from that yank and toss. Seeing that, an occipital socket injury is easy to believe.

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        • Ship Wreck says:

          It would explain the arm wounds. The arm was at side holding up his pants. Not too far off center mass. Arm gets hit. Brown lets go of -pants because of wounded arm. Trips exposing top of head.

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    • ftsk420 says:

      That’s very possible his pant below his ass made him trip I have seen it a million times

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    • John Denney says:

      It may also signify that he was moving fast when he landed, and as he slid forward, his pants came down.
      Likely a combination of both aspects.

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    • MouseTheLuckyDog says:

      Just out of curiosity, when that happens do you wait for them or drive off?

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      • Ship Wreck says:

        Drive away. We don’t have time to wait for people who can’t bother themselves with being at the stop on time. I do wait for the elderly and handicapped though.

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  18. CoffeeBreak says:

    Thank you CTH and Legion of One.

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  19. cozziemom says:

    Wow this website continues to WOW me Your dedication to the truth is awesome

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  20. Yes, I appreciate the dedication. Here is something (getting Crump disbarred) that could add to that effort and I really meant to post it to this entry and not the one below, I’m sorry I mistakenly posted it to the previous entry:
    I have a question I was hoping someone could answer. Is Crump as a lawyer allowed to lie in public about material evidence of a case? I was just wondering if he is risking is law license by doing so. If anyone can answer that for me I would appreciate it. For context here is the video http://youtu.be/7qPPsuX4HGo where Crump is lying.

    BTW, if anyone questions my claim that Crump really did lie (like some have in comments to that video linked above, I thought I would provide the detailed reply I just posted to someone):

    It is not out of context. THIS video, THESE words: “They had the marks there that can show that he had shots that could only take place where he had his hands up.” What exactly do you think that sentence means? “They had” (the doctors who performed the autopsy had) “the marks there” (the drawings on the autopsy diagram) “that can show” (can it?) “that he had shots that could only take place where he had his hands up.” (Is that true or false?) Is it true or false that Brown “had shots that could only take place where he had his hands up?

    The sentence before that one: “It substantiated what a lot of those witnesses were saying about when he put his hands up. “it substantiated” (the autopsy report, did it really provide evidence to support or prove the truth of what Crump claims? Or did it really not prove or provide evidence of that any more than it proved or provided evidence that his arms were in different positions such as was shot with his arms in front of him or at his sides. It is dishonest to say it supported the theory that Brown put his hands up because it didn’t do that, it said the other positions were possible too. It no more substantiated that claim than it substantiated the claim that Brown didn’t have his hands up when those shots hit him. )

    You didn’t answer my previous reply to you: Since when are there witness claims that Brown was shot in the arms, or claims about the wounds to Browns’ arms? There weren’t witnesses claiming he was shot in the arms, only claims that he was shot while holding his arms up. He was being asked about the AUTOPSY and he lied when he replied: “It substantiated what a lot of those witnesses were saying about when he put his hands up. They had the marks there that can show that he had shots that could only take place where he had his hands up.” There are the two sentences. The witnesses didn’t “have the marks there” did they? that doesn’t even make sense, but i only bring it up since you seem to be trying to say that and the next part in that sentence is a clear cut falsehood: “that can show that he had shots that could only take place where he had his hands up.” That’s false because the autopsy “can show” that he had shots that could take place with his hands not up too, so it is a LIE to claim the autopsy shows “only” the scenario of Brown being shot while his hands are up.

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    • John Galt says:

      I think there is a pattern of race baiting for profit activity that should be investigated: false statements in the media, hiring and funding agitators, crossing state lines to incite, using interstate communications, influencing politicians (up to and including POTUS) to make public statements.

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    • nivico says:

      http://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_4_1_truthfulness_in_statements_to_others.html

      Rule 4.1 Truthfulness In Statements To Others

      In the course of representing a client a lawyer shall not knowingly:

      (a) make a false statement of material fact or law to a third person; or

      (b) fail to disclose a material fact to a third person when disclosure is necessary to avoid assisting a criminal or fraudulent act by a client, unless disclosure is prohibited by Rule 1.6.

      http://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_3_6_trial_publicity.html

      Rule 3.6 Trial Publicity
      (a) A lawyer who is participating or has participated in the investigation or litigation of a matter shall not make an extrajudicial statement that the lawyer knows or reasonably should know will be disseminated by means of public communication and will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding in the matter.

      (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), a lawyer may state:

      (1) the claim, offense or defense involved and, except when prohibited by law, the identity of the persons involved;

      (2) information contained in a public record;

      (3) that an investigation of a matter is in progress;

      (4) the scheduling or result of any step in litigation;

      (5) a request for assistance in obtaining evidence and information necessary thereto;

      (6) a warning of danger concerning the behavior of a person involved, when there is reason to believe that there exists the likelihood of substantial harm to an individual or to the public interest; and

      (7) in a criminal case, in addition to subparagraphs (1) through (6):

      (i) the identity, residence, occupation and family status of the accused;

      (ii) if the accused has not been apprehended, information necessary to aid in apprehension of that person;

      (iii) the fact, time and place of arrest; and

      (iv) the identity of investigating and arresting officers or agencies and the length of the investigation.

      (c) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), a lawyer may make a statement that a reasonable lawyer would believe is required to protect a client from the substantial undue prejudicial effect of recent publicity not initiated by the lawyer or the lawyer’s client. A statement made pursuant to this paragraph shall be limited to such information as is necessary to mitigate the recent adverse publicity.

      (d) No lawyer associated in a firm or government agency with a lawyer subject to paragraph (a) shall make a statement prohibited by paragraph (a).

      .
      .
      http://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/model_rules_of_professional_conduct_table_of_contents.html

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    • over the top says:

      “that can show that he had shots that could only take place where he had his hands up.”

      this statement can be 100% true and factual. When Brown charged officer Wilson, the officer began to shoot…Brown may have lifted his arms to protect his face and this could explain the wounds…

      this was explained on live tv, the media is staying away from the possibility of this happening.

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    • Lou says:

      Rep Press, I think this is an important issue which must be covered in video form.
      http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/19/shawn-parcells-credentials-role-in-michael-brown-autopsy-questioned-by-doctors/

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    • TrickleUpPolitics says:

      No, he cannot be disbarred for this and I’m sure the disciplinary board wouldn’t even take it up because he is theorizing or giving his opinion about the autopsy. He’s entitled to be wrong. You say he’s lying, he’ll say he was wrong. Case closed.
      Signed, former prosecutor

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  21. czarowniczy says:

    Crump is a muckraker, he’s out to stir the racial animosity pot and truth isn’t an ingredient in his stew. I gave you a plausible scenario for the top-of-the-head shot and Crump, if he’s been to even a tenth of the black-on-black shootings the average officer in a major city has, knows that. This is part of an orchestrated plan going way back. At each white-on-black shooting they feel they can’t twist, distort and redefines in self-serving vice real justice use. Notice how the same band of latter day Porgys pop up at selected shootings – my same issue as with the Trayvon case, it was selectively picked.
    Where are they at plainly and obviously open-and-shut cases of whites shooting blacks in self defense? They never showed up in New Orleans when the homeowner just off the Quarter shot the 14-year old in his back yard? Some local activists tried to make the kid look like a saint (go Saints) but no help from the usual racial ranting suspects. The black-on-black shootings, almost as common as mosquitoes here this summer, are never viewed by this team of black saviors, neither are the Latino-on-black though there’s a bit of a squeak when an Asian defends his/her life against a black aggressor.
    They have managed to make non-blacks looking at black motives on pursuing shootings, motives that would be considered racist were a white to pursue them against a black shooter, and make the process racist. Black rage in shooting non-blacks is a semi-valid defense in the progressive justice system (the poor and downtrodden’s version of affluenza) – y’all shoot a black aggressor and try the white-rage defense and see how far you get.

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  22. clash108 says:

    I think a key point for Officer Wilson is how far away was Brown’s body from him when he dropped. If it was only a few feet like some reports indicate, then case should be closed–self defense.

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  23. myopiafree says:

    After you have been smashed in your face by a felon (that broke your eye-socket) you can only assume the worst. After that, your “shooting” will be very inaccurate – at best. When the Thug/SLUG launched himself towards Wilson, he shot at the “center of mass” of this SLUG. What he hit – was pure random. Only the closeness of the SLUG improved Wilson’s “accuracy”. As I understand it, the SLUG fell about 5 feet away. You are supposed to keep shooting until the threat stops. When the slug fell forward, of course one shot hit him in the head. Either this slug was “drugged up”, or he was committing “suicide by cop”. In any event, Officer Wilson had no choice but to shoot at this violent thug. (I shoot a 0.45 at a target at 50 feet. But using a brace or rest, I can hit the target. But “off had” I doubt I could shoot a accurately as Wiilson did.)

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  24. over the top says:

    here’s an interesting view from a guy that says he saw the shooting. the interviewer Lawrence O’Donnell seems to want to lead the guy into seeing Brown being shot while his arms are up but the guy never admits to seeing that, he then plays him a clip from a woman that says she saw the entire incident, she explains she saw what she thought she saw, Brown and the cop fighting through the window of the cops vehicle and she says the cop was pulling Brown in…hahaha…in the mean time the other guy says in his view Brown and the cop were exchanging punches through the window…the interviewer is definitely leading and trying to paint a different interpretation of the incident. I see this video as a incriminating one against Brown, not the cop:

    http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/new-witnesss-crucial-info-in-brown-shooting-320756803662#discussions

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    • clash108 says:

      I do think this witness missed part of the incident when he was coming out of his apartment, but he did come across as being truthful. I had to laugh at the newsman was trying to minimize the distance of 20 feet. The officer had to think he was on something with his prior actions, and 20 feet is a heartbeat away from that officer being killed.
      The distance of 20 feet is also significant because it shows Brown did come forward since eyewitnesses reported he was initially 35 feet away.

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      • over the top says:

        yes the witness missed part of the incident, I believe it was the start of the shots being fired…but what I found very important was his description of the punches being thrown through the window of the car, I do find that incriminating against Brown. How did he end up throwing punches?

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      • ackbarsays says:

        He was 35 feet away from the officer’s SUV, if memory serves. Supposedly he ended up 6-8 feet away from the officer.

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      • Goofey says:

        From the transcript of the interview:

        ODONNELL: OK. The video that you recorded at that time, theres some —
        we don`t have the video ready to play, you gave it to us early, we
        appreciate that. We got — we got the audio of what you said on that
        video, and it begins with you saying he just got shot. He just ran up to
        the car, he ran up to the car. He was punching on him.

        Who was punching on who or what did you mean by, “he was punching on him?”

        Has anyone seen this video O`DONNELL is talking about???

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    • lorac says:

      Nothing like spoon feeding this guy! Funny cause this guy says the officer immediately got out of his car and Dorian Johnson says it took 2 to 3 minutes for the officer to get out of the car. So which was it immediately or 2 to 3 minutes. Also the guy was in his apt. Now I don’t know what the weather was like but was the AC running, was the tv on, was the radio on. How exactly did he know the alteration was happening. He also doesn’t hear the gun shot but the woman in the car hears it. He continually says most likely and probably. There is no most likely or probably when you are saying what happened! I say just an idiot trying to get 5 seconds of fame. Another thing the woman is right there hears the gunshot and doesn’t try to get out of dodge, goes to the state of mind that blacks are so use to gunshots in their neighborhood that it no longer phases them. That in and of itself is rather sad!

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    • John Galt says:

      @ 3:13

      MSNBC failed to play the video contemporaneously recorded by Brady where Brady said something to the effect that Brown ran up to the police car window and was punching on Wilson. MSNBC said they didn’t play the video that Brady gave them because “we don’t have the video ready to play”

      Why can’t the broadcast wizards at MSNBC play a video from a smart phone? Hundreds of millions of ordinary folks can accomplish that amazing technical feat.

      Is Brady’s video with audio released to the public or is that still being suppressed by LSM?

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    • Sandra says:

      It’s the Bernie de la Rionda style of interviewing.

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      • John Galt says:

        Both CNN and MSNBC are apparently suppressing the contemporaneous video made by Michael Brady. Note that in both the CNN and MSNBC interviews of Brady, Brady states that Dorian is on the passenger side of the police car.

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        • ftsk420 says:

          So this guy can hear arguing at the car but doesn’t hear a shot go off. He seems confused about a lot to me

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        • eastern2western says:

          there is actually a lot of leading questions by ac. I feel weird about eye witnesses who show up in the media for attention. I remember in the Zimmerman case that john goode was hiding his face for a year before the actual trial and he was the most credible witness of the whole case.

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          • lorac1 says:

            But John wasn’t supporting the narrative as these current people are. There reportedly are witnesses who support the officer, but we’re not seeing them on tv. They, like John, value their lives.

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    • John Galt says:

      Listen @ 3:13 . Huge evidence suppression by MSNBC

      http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/new-witnesss-crucial-info-in-brown-shooting-320756803662#discussions

      Lawerence O’ Donnell: The video that you recorded at that time. . . There’s some. . . We don’t have the video ready to play. You gave it to us earlier, we appreciate that. But we got the audio of what you said on that video and it begins with you saying, “He just got shot. He just ran up to the car. He ran up to the car. He was punching on him.”

      Michael Brady made a video contemporaneous with the event and commented in the audio track of the video about his observations immediately after the event transpired. Brady gave that video to MSNBC, but MSNBC is apparently suppressing Brady’s contemporaneous video with audio.

      Media suppression and manipulation of evidence: check

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      • over the top says:

        actually, I think O’Donnell doesn’t realize it but in this part of the video it appears as if he gets Brady to admit Brown attacks the cop….Brady said he felt it was weird that anybody would be at a cops window…this indicates he felt Brown instigated the event.

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        • John Galt says:

          They know that Dorian is FOS, yet they persist in the cop executed po lil black chil narrative.

          Dorian: cop backs up, tries to open door, door bounces off Big Mike, taps Dorian. Cop reaches out with left hand and tries to pull Big Mike into car.

          MSNBC Suppressed Brady recording: Dorian standing in front of and on passenger side of police car. Big Mike runs up and starts punching on cop.

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  25. Steve K says:

    On the other hand, if Todashev was a summary execution and the report a polite fig leaf, like many believed it to be, it doesn’t exactly help Wilson’s cause to use that as proof of self-defense.

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  26. kinthenorthwest says:

    Pretty good article on the use of force by a police officer. Just a snippet from the article.
    “Supreme Court case to shape Ferguson investigation
    The Graham decision found that an officer’s use of force should be considered on the facts of each case. Officers are to weigh the seriousness of the crime, whether the suspect poses a threat to the safety of police or others and whether the suspect is trying to resist arrest.

    “The ‘reasonableness’ of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight,” Rehnquist wrote.”
    http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-case-shape-ferguson-investigation-082510707.html

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  27. It would also be nice to not hear he suffured a broken eye socket without evidence. Lets get the facts please.

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  28. nameofthepen says:

    Ha ha…I bet CTH is at the top of Holder’s “enemies list”. :mrgreen:

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  29. Dean says:

    I can’t wait to see the photographs of the police officer’s face. I think that will make even MSNBC change their minds a little.

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    • barbi says:

      Pics of George Zimmerman’s face meant nothing to people filled with hate. Remember, this isn’t about logic to such people. It’s not about fairness. It’s like football game with your beloved team playing its perennial enemy. It’s about colors. As long as the jersey one guy is wearing is that of your “team,” people who view this incident in those emotional terms don’t give a damn about the game being officiated fairly. They only care about the outcome.

      The media fuels it, just as they did all the riots over race and over Viet Nam in the 60s.

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  30. barbi says:

    Excellent demonstration, but there will still be questions about the gun shot wound to the head.

    I suspect that Mike Brown, if he had left any sense at all (very debatable given all the mistakes he made that day that eventuated in his death), as he rushed the officer, intended to tackle him around the waist or the knees. That would explain the shot to the head.

    Will angle of entry of the head shot determine anything? I’d imagine not, unless the shot was directly downward.

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    • TrickleUpPolitics says:

      Or Occam’s Razon governs, i.e., simplest explanation is best. He was tripped up by his sagging pants. Look at the picture of him lying in road: his pants are down around his butt.

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  31. georgiafl says:

    The shot to the head could have been the result of Brown leaning down as to see where he was hit by earlier shots to arm and shoulder or falling down because of earlier hits.

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  32. kinthenorthwest says:

    Below is my theory. Though I am no gun expert by any means I have a few who are say that it makes sense.
    When you got someone of that size charging you, you defend yourself. Brown kept charging, even after a couple of shots according to one of the witnesses. The witness even thought that the first shots missed since Brown kept charging. Just go to You Tube and type in the following for the video. “Witness to Michael Brown shooting: “dude kept coming towards the police”

    Come on people if you fire a couple of shots at someone that size and they keep angrily charging you, are you going to stop firing–I THINK NOT!!. I do have a feeling that due to Brown’s size that the first ones didn’t really even phase him. Remember the witness saying Brown kept charging. The fifth probably made him falter and start falling, which is the reason for the placement of the last bullet.

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  33. doodahdaze says:

    This is ridiculous. Wilson should go right over to the Federal Courthouse and have Holder tossed of this case. He has no jurisdiction and is violating Wilson’ Civil Rights by even meddling in it. He is relying on The Civil Rights Act to stick his nose in and his basis for doing so is clearly an Unconstitutional Violation of Mr. Wilson’s civil liberty under the 14th and 10th Amendment. Any Federal Judge would agree or be reversed.

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    • TrickleUpPolitics says:

      No, not a good move. If Wilson files anything, Holder gets to respond and this will just ensure that a federal case is prosecuted against Wilson. After all, he would have started it by filing first. Also, the court has no jurisdiction to tell the AG to stop investigating.

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      • TrickleUpPolitics says:

        And I should have put quotation marks around the word investigating.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          It is Holder who lacks jurisdiction. I would advise him not to defy a Federal Judge. That would be hazardous to his appointment and freedom. But he would look good in Orange.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        No way, Holder has no jurisdiction. What could he say in his response. His application of the civil rights act is unconstitutional in a homicide investigation. It is clearly based only on the race of the suspect. IOW race alone as a foundation violates the 14th equal protection clause. The homicide investigation itself violates the 10th. His filing should be an injunction and an order to cease and desist as a result of the unconstitutional application of the Civil Rights Act, which it clearly and unequivocally is.

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  34. John Denney says:

    In Todashev’s case:
    “One projectile entered the top of the head, passed through the brain and the base of the skull.”

    In Brown’s case, we only seem to have entry wound locations, but no information about how each round passed through the body.

    If Brown had just bowed his head, the shot to the top of his head would cause a path toward the back of his head. On the other hand, if his entire body were leaned forward in a flying tackle position, the path through his head would be like Todashev’s.

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    • Serpentor says:

      this is because only the amateur for-hired autopsy has been leaked, not the official one

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    • Renee says:

      This is what I have read. Two shots to the head. One entered at hairline, went through eye socket then into clavicle area of shoulder. Supposedly in a straight line. The other went into top or apex of head. Of course all this talk is without the coroners autopsy. They have not released it. So far everything out there is based on dubious second autopsy.

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    • TrickleUpPolitics says:

      Not true. I read the bullet that entered his eye exited downwards and broke his collarbone.

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    • waltherppk says:

      FBI agents carry S&W .40 cal glock semi-auto which are improvements of the .357 mag revolver cartridge and are possibly double the immediate incapacitating effect of a 9mm for a non immediately fatal hit. For a head shot through the brain it doesn’t make much difference what is the caliber.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        I doubt the head shot did much. It might have if there had been a brian in the head but here, not so much.

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        • waltherppk says:

          Yeah with all the empty space there in the skull it could have been a ricochet scenario where the bullet would bounce around a lot until by chance finding an exit path like an eye or else exiting back out the same hole it came in. The deceased could be laying there for quite awhile with the head doing like a Mexican jumping bean from the bullet still bouncing around trying to get out. EMT’s could have covered up the head with a kevlar vest …just in case.

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  35. It seems lost in this mess are all the people who believed GZ was guilty simply because he got out of his car in direct violation of a police order. Well it wasn’t actually a police officer and it wasn’t exactly an order, but nonetheless, In this case it seems clear that MB did much worse than just not listen to a police order, he actually physically assaulted a police officer.

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  36. BlueEyedStorm says:

    If Brown’s hands were UP when he was shot and killed, why are Brown’s hands DOWN at his sides in the crime scene photos?

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    • barbi says:

      Yeah, if he were on his knees, hands up, that wouldn’t be his position. That whole picture was a joke from the beginning. This whole thing reminds me of how students in junior high and high school get wind of a fight and w/in minutes there are the most dramatic accounts of what usually wound up being a shoving match that was over in two seconds, broken up by a teacher.

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  37. eastern2western says:

    the da has to be sitting on a video of the whole incident, but he does not want to release it to the public to anger the crowd.

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  38. legionofone says:

    I just wanted to say you are welcome to those who thanked me and that Sundance continues to amaze me with her awesome work and bravery.

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    • mung says:

      And their point is? How many police officers are on it? How many people that look like David Morse? I mean if we are going to look at how similar the jury is to those involved in the incident, why not go into microscopic detail?

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    • TrickleUpPolitics says:

      Of course it is. Most of Missouri is white. And, if they are using voter registrations to pick the pool, the black thugs are probably not registered to vote. Why bother to vote when you can just riot?

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      • John Galt says:

        The libtards covered that recently. Apparently some elections are held in April and blacks can’t find the ballot box. Not sure why, but in spite of a 66% black demographic, whites dominate elected government offices in Ferguson.

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    • eastern2western says:

      same as the Zimmerman trial because all black members were eliminated because they are associated with organizations that have joined the lynch fest.

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  39. stella says:

    Kyle Williams Found Guilty of Murdering Lakeland Police Officer Arnulfo Crispin

    http://www.theledger.com/article/20140821/NEWS/140829885?tc=cr

    Crispin, 25, was shot in the top of the head while attempting to perform a pat-down search on Williams and four other young men.</em

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Darren Wilson may have shared Arnulfo Crispin’s fate had he not acted as he did when Mike Brown reached inside his police cruiser.

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  40. Lucille says:

    Many years ago a friend of mine, a former Chicago police officer and retired USMC NCO (Viet Nam vet), told me that if you are about to be attacked and are armed, then you have mere moments to use your weapon and unless you know your weapon thoroughly you might not even hit the attacker before he gets to you. He also said that if you do hit the attacker, you may continue shooting until the perp falls. You may not ever, however, stand over him and continue shooting or you will be indicted. This is all logic. He was admonishing me about both knowing the law and my weapon when I asked his recommendation on which handgun to purchase.

    Of course Officer Wilson knew his weapon and the law. That’s his profession. From all accounts he is an outstanding officer and human being. Character assassination is the key method of the Left and their willing minions. They do not care if decent, law-abiding citizens are destroyed as long as it fits the agenda. The agenda is being pursued today via hatred of whites and the fomenting of that hatred by the lo-fo/lo-ed/lo-ec. It’s such an incredible atrocity against humanity that these souls do not know how they are being used and abused but continue to believe lies. It’s the blindness that satan loves as it serves his purpose. The international and domestic Left serves and willingly participates in the agenda of evil.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      How did those “Eagle’s” lyrics (Peaceful Easy Feelin’) go? Oh yeah….

      And I found out a long time ago
      what a woman can do to your soul
      Ah, but she can’t take you anyway
      You don’t already know how to go

      IMO, the same applies to these fools who allow themselves to be led so easily. They can’t be taken anyway they don’t already know how to go…

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  41. eastern2western says:

    the most interesting shot that no one is talking about is the shot that went from his face to his chest. If he were just standing up, then the bullet should had gone through his face. However, the trajectory shows that his face and chest were probably in the same horizontal plane as the gun.

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    • barbi says:

      Yes.

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    • John Denney says:

      My understanding is that bullet made 5 holes:
      1) Initial entry at eye
      2) Exit at jawline
      3) Entry at clavicle area
      4) Exit at pectoral area
      5) Entry at forearm

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Yes, I have a LOT of questions about the number of wounds that were (or might have been) caused by multiple exits and re-entries of the same slug. I also have questions about the number of rounds that Wilson actually fired, and the type of ammo he was using. Have any of the findings from the official inquiries revealed anything in regards to those questions? Any reports about the number of shell casings (and their locations) found at the scene (or in Wilson’s vehicle)?

        I do recall that the ME report said only 3 slugs were found in Brown’s body, so I’m wondering if those 3 slugs caused all of his injuries, or if thee were others that were “through and through’s”?

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  42. kinthenorthwest says:

    This is an excerpt from “Chicken Soup for the Prisoner.”, a book that I just happened to pick up the other day. The following excerpt from the story titled “A convict’s Letter to His Son” really said so much about what is happening in our country..

    “Rules are just like laws. They help us all keep peace in our family and neighborhood. Rules and laws are good for everyone, not just for you. It would be very bad world if everyone decided for themselves which rules or laws they they wanted to obey.
    Just because you don’t like a law is not reason to break it……..
    It is hard being a man and facing the truth. But when you make a mistake, you are the only one who can correct it. It is up to you to do everything that you can to undo any harm or pain you may have caused.
    When I talk to you like this it is because I love you and I want to help you to avoid the mistakes I have made.
    A real man does not blame others for his own behavior. A real man does not think that everything in life is free. He understands that there is always a price to pay for every action. When you break a rule or a law, you not only hurt other buy hurt yourself. Don’t blame your your mother or me when you make a mistake. Be a man and learn from your own mistakes.”

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  43. kinthenorthwest says:

    Did I say something wrong in my last post..”Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

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  44. Good read and excellent info. More proof that we all live in massive illusions ! The control mechanisms are many .

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