The Benghazi Brief – The Entire Story Of Operation “Zero Footprint” In Libya and Why Further Benghazi Committee Hearings Are Futile…

As with all complex stories the valuable discoveries come with time.

This Brief has been updated to include the newly spotlighted research on Syria and ISIL.  Most importantly the previously unknown “Second Presidential Finding Memo” to the CIA in 2012 specifically directed to arm/aid ISIL in Syria.  The new information from the month before the Benghazi attack explains the motive of the Turkish delegation toward Chris Stevens.

Grab a cup of coffee and you’ll see how the Trey Gowdy special committee is really a waste of time.   There is no benefit to be gained from house hearings that will never be allowed to disclose the operational aspects of covert CIA intelligence ops.


We know from the Bret Baier interview with Hillary Clinton that she was physically located at her 7th floor office in Washington DC on the night of the attack. Unfortunately we also know during the November 2012 Thanksgiving holiday a mysterious fire took place in that building. Well, actually directly above her exact office – cause undetermined.

A “fire” which preceded an unfortunate slip and fall for the Secretary, resulting in a concussion, which led to the discovery of a blood clot, that ultimately delayed her congressional testimony before a Senate Hearing into the events of the night in question.

We know the Libyan uprising began on February 10th of 2011, and we also know that sometime around the end of February 2011 President Obama signed a presidential directive authorizing the State Dept and CIA to begin a covert operation to arm the Libyan “rebels”.

We also know of a Second Presidential Finding Memo authorizing additional CIA covert action in 2012, this time in Syria.   However, unlike the 2011 Libyan operation we do not know the operational name of the second action in 2012 Syria.

We know the Libyan “rebels” were positioned in two strategic places. Benghazi, and the port city of Darnah, both located in Northeastern Libya.

We know this 2011 Libyan covert operation came to be known as “Operation Zero Footprint“, and fell under the military command authority of NATO not (important to repeat), NOT, the U.S. Military.

We know by the time operation “Zero Footprint” began, AFRICOM commander General Carter Ham was removed from OPSEC oversight in the Libyan campaign and NATO commander Admiral James G. Stavridis was in charge.

Stavridis was the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) at the time of the Libyan uprising. He retired as SACEUR in 2013

In 2011, 57-year-old Stavridis was the perfect pick for NATO Libyan intervention considering he is the son of Turkish immigrants. Turkey played a key role in what might be the most politically dangerous aspect of the events to the White House once the goals changed to redirection of the weapons from Operation Zero Footprint.

We know Operation Zero Footprint was the covert transfer of weapons from the U.S to the Libyan “rebels”. We also know the operation avoided the concerns with congressional funding, and potential for public scrutiny, through financing by the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

We also know that officials within the government of Qatar served as the intermediaries for the actual transfer of the weapons, thereby removing the footprint of the U.S. intervention.

We know the entire operation was coordinated and controlled by the State Department and CIA. We also know (from the Senate Foreign Relations Benghazi hearings) that “Zero Footprint” was unknown to the 2011 Pentagon and/or DoD commanders who would have been tasked with any military response to the 9/11/12 attack – namely AFRICOM General Carter Ham.

However, it would be implausible to think that then Defense Secretary Bob Gates or Joint Chiefs Chair Admiral McMullen were completely unaware of the operation, this aspect remains murky.

Both Secretary Gates and Joint Chiefs Chair McMullen were in place when Operation Zero Footprint began but retired from their jobs in Sept of 2011, and were replaced by Leon Panetta and Martin Dempsey respectively.

Leon Panetta was CIA Director at the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint (March 2011) and was replaced by CIA Director David Petraeus in the fall of 2011 as Panetta replaced Bob Gates and became Secretary of Defense.

However, Panetta (now as Def Sec) and JC Martin Dempsey were the two who initially briefed President Obama on the night of Sept 11th 2012. Because of his previous role in constructing Zero Footprint, Leon Panetta definitely had knowledge of the intents of the joint State Dept/Cia mission in Benghazi, Dempsey may not have.

We know the White House appears to have followed “The Intelligence Oversight Act of 1980” in informing the congressional “Gang of Eight” of Zero Footprint.

The Gang of Eight in 2011 would have included: Speaker – John Boehner, Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi; House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers, and his Democrat counterpart Charles Ruppersberger; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; along with Senate Intel Chair Diane Feinstein and her Republican counterpart, Saxby Chambliss.

From Hillary interviews we also know the White House liaison for Secretary Clinton and CIA Director Leon Panetta during Operation Zero Footprint was National Security Advisor To the President, Tom Donilon.

With this information we can assemble a cast of people “IN THE KNOW” of Operation Zero Footprint on two specific date blocks. March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack – and – Post 9/11/12 attack forward.

March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack: Who knew of Operation “Zero Footprint”?:

        • President Obama and Vice President Biden (both Dems)
        • Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Dem)
        • CIA Director Leon Panetta (March 2011 – June 2011)
        • *CIA Director General David Petraeus (?) (Sept 2011 – Nov 2012)
        • NATO Commander, James G Stavridis
        • White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon (Dem)
        • White House National Security Spox Tommy Vietor (Donilon aide)
        • White House National Security Advisor John Brennan (Dem)
        • Speaker of the House John Boehner (Rep)
        • Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi (Dem)
        • House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers (Rep)
        • Minority House Intel Committee – Charles Ruppersberger (Dem)
        • Senate Minority Leader – Mitch McConnell (Rep)
        • Senate Majority Leader – Harry Reid (Dem)
        • Senate Intel Chair – Diane Feinstein (Dem)
        • Minority Senate Intel Committee – Saxby Chambliss (Rep)
        • [State Dept] U.S. Libyan Ambassador – Chris Stevens
        • [State Dept] U.S. Asst Secretary of State – Andrew Shapiro
        • [State Dept] Senior Head of U.S. Weapons Office – Mark Adams

Along with whomever inside each nation’s state government that was involved in either the finance (UAE), or the logistics (Qatar).  [and later, 2012 Turkey]

Obviously the “know” crowd would include the ultimate end destination users, “The Libyan Rebel Commanders”:

        • Rebel Leader (Islamic Fighting Group) Abu Sufian Ibriham Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu – Darnah Brigade – Ansar Al Sharia
        • Rebel Leader (Islamic Fighting Group) Abu Khattala – Commander of an Islamist militia group called the Abu Obaida bin Jarrah Brigade (17th Feb Brigade) Benghazi – Ansar Al Sharia

*NOTE* Both of these individuals were labeled as officially recognized State Dept. terrorists in December of 2013. Khattala recently having been arrested.


In addition, the “political face” of the Libyan Transitional Government Justice Minister Mustafa Abdel Jalil, should also be included in this list of people who knew of operation Zero Footprint while it was underway.

Justice Abdel Jalil served as the international face of, and spokesperson for, “the rebels” in 2011/12. He worked closely with Chris Stevens and highly visibly with Secretary Hillary Clinton – However, in my opinion – after extensive research- Jalil was a total patsy. He was paid well to present a comfortable face of the movement, but once Gaddaffi was killed Jalil was quickly dispatched.

This Brings us to who knew about “Operation Zero Footprint” post Benghazi 9/11/12 attack:

To wit you can easily add:

        • CIA Director General David Petraeus
        • Adjunct, and Interim, CIA Director – Mike Morrel
        • U.S. Attorney General – Eric Holder
        • President Obama Advisor and now Chief of Staff – Denis McDonough
        • President Obama Advisor and now Treasury Sec – Jack Lew
        • President Obama Advisor and now National Security Advisor – Tony Blinkin
        • Former UN Ambassador and now Senior Nat Sec Advisor – Susan Rice
        • Chief White House Communications Director – Ben Rhodes

Focusing on the post 9/11/12 team for a moment:

This photo was taken at 1:28am Benghazi time. [7:28pm DC] Following a one hour phone call between POTUS, V-Potus, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

This photo was taken on 9/11/12 at 1:28am Benghazi time. [7:28pm DC] Following a one hour phone call between POTUS, V-Potus, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Jack Lew (far right) was Obama’s Chief of Staff. Donilon and McDonough had just left Tommy Vietor in the situation room to update POTUS in the Oval Office. POTUS and VPOTUS had just hung up the phone.

PART II – We know McDonough and Donilon were in the immediate loop on the night of 9/11/12 because they were photographed updating President Obama at 7:30pm in the Oval Office along with a curious Jack Lew who was Chief of Staff at the time.

In addition we know from former White House National Security spokesperson Tommy “dude” Vietor, that President Obama was not in the situation room where Vietor and his boss Tom Donilon were keeping up on events.

Here’s where it gets interesting:

Leon Panetta was the CIA Director when Operation Zero Footprint was authorized and began, but he left the CIA about 4 months later (June 30th, 2011) and was replaced by General David Petraeus (August/Sept 2011).

[*Note* it is important to remember when the 2nd authorized CIA program began in 2012 for Syria Petraeus would have been included]

Under this principle you can see that General Petraeus had ZERO liability for the origin of the Benghazi weapons deals – it was a joint State Dept/CIA program already being conducted when Petraeus arrived. If it blew up, it was not his political problem.

We know that during the summer of 2012 “a whistleblower” popped up and gave House Republican Leader Eric Cantor a tip about CIA Director General Petraeus being in an extramarital affair with a reporter named Paula Broadwell; along with rumors Petraeus may have shared classified information with Broadwell during pillow talk etc.

We also know that Eric Cantor told AG Eric Holder and FBI director Robert Mueller about the claim and Mueller began an investigation of Petraeus in the Summer of 2012 before the Benghazi attack in September.

However, we also know that neither Holder nor Mueller (nor Cantor) informed anyone in congress this investigation of Petraeus was taking place. That investigation included Broadwell turning over her computer to the FBI in the same summer, and later a search of her home which did reveal confidential information supposedly leaked from Petraeus.

Sometime in October of 2012 Director of National Intelligence James Clapper had a conversation with Petraeus urging him to leave.

Immediately after the election of 2012 CIA Director David Petraeus resigned (Nov 9th) and interim CIA Director Mike Morrel took over. This is why Petraeus never testified to the Senate, and Morrel took his place.

General David Petraeus and Paula BroadwellLeon-Panetta-and-Michael-Morell-via-the-Secretary-of-Defense-Public-Domain

We also know this timely switch was beneficial to both the Clinton and Obama camps because Morrel was more politically connected to them than Petraeus.

Given the risks of exposure to both “Operation Zero Footprint”, and worse, the buy-back/redirection to Syria, it’s understandable the risk to Clinton that Petraeus carried. However, Petraeus was not of any risk himself; maybe Leon Panetta would be, but not Petraeus – who, it’s important to add, came from the Defense Department to the office of CIA.

Petraeus’s replacement, interim CIA Director Mike Morrel, and White House Communications Director Ben Rhodes, were the two men who constructed the infamous “Susan Rice” talking points.

After Morrel testified to congress about the CIA involvement around Benghazi, and the issues of terrorism vs. Islamic movie (happy squirrel chase) etc. Morrel was replaced at the CIA by John Brennan.

We know that both Hillary Clinton and CBS immediately hired Mike Morrel. CBS News President David Rhodes -who hired Morrel- is the brother of the White House’s Ben Rhodes; who Morrel coordinated the Clinton friendly, albeit controversial, talking points with.

While it may seem suspect to jump to conclusions, the fact that Eric Holder did not inform either Intelligence Committee of the FBI Petraeus investigation -which is generally standard procedure- lends plausible suspicion to an outline that the events were used as leverage to remove Petraeus; and all of the subsequent risk he represented.

If you accept that Petraeus’s knowledge of, but non-involvement in, “Operation Zero Footprint” represented a potential risk to Hillary and Obama; you’d have to admit that Mike Morrel was by far the more White House friendly person talking about the CIA involvement around the joint State Dept/CIA Benghazi objectives.

Also, it would be disingenuous to ignore the fact Morrel’s loyalty therein was rewarded financially.

Lastly, one of the more slippery people to pin down on the Benghazi attack, and subsequent issues, has been Leon Panetta. If you think about Panetta’s role in the origin of Operation Zero Footprint his comment avoidance makes perfect sense.

Trey Gowdy needs to subpoena Panetta for the Special Committee.

OK, sorry that was more than a moment – but was needed.

Now back to Libya 2011/2012 and the Rift Between State/CIA and DoD/Pentagon over the arming of the “Rebels”. THIS IS REALLY QUITE IMPORTANT because it explains how far out Hillary Clinton had put herself in this covert op “Zero Footprint”.

Duty - by Robert Gates

A few reminder articles will outline and refresh why the White House kept DoD and The Pentagon at arms length throughout their covert operation:

[…] defense leaders in Washington [March 2011] slammed the brakes on the extent of US help to the rebels. Top officials said that some country other than the US should perform any future training and equipping of the Libyan opposition groups. Under withering congressional probing and criticism of what was described as an ill-defined mission to aid a rebel force that officials know little about, Robert Gates, the US defense secretary, sketched out a largely limited role for the US military going forward.

Gates and Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told members of the House Armed Services panel that many other countries have the ability to train and support the rebels. “My view would be, if there is going to be that kind of assistance to the opposition, there are plenty of sources for it other than the United States,” said Gates. “Somebody else should do that.” Gates and Mullen told Congress that future US participation will be limited and will not involve an active role in airstrikes as time goes on. (link)

From a New York Times article about the same hearing -AND- the discussion of the CIA involvement. Again, remember this is 2011 – you have Secretary Gates, Joint Chiefs Mullen, and CIA Director Panetta:

2011 […] Gates and Mullen were testifying before the House and Senate Armed Services Committees in the wake of revelations that small teams of CIA operatives are working in Libya. Gates declined to comment on the CIA activities in Libya. US officials have acknowledged that the CIA has sent small teams of operatives into Libya and helped rescue a crew member of a US fighter jet that crashed.

The CIA’s precise role in Libya is not clear. Intelligence experts said the CIA would have sent officials to make contact with the opposition and assess the strength and needs of the rebel forces in the event Barack Obama, the US president, decided to arm them. (link)

In hindsight we are now fully aware that unknown to both Mullen and Gates -at the time they were speaking- was President Obama having authorized Operation Zero Footprint several weeks earlier, and Panetta carrying it out.

The State Dept (Hillary) and CIA (Panetta) were now in the execution mode of the covert op.

We now know against the March/April 2011 backdrop of growing information about al-Qaeda’s presence within the rebel units – there was a genuine difference of opinion on whether even getting involved was a good idea.

The Defense Department (Gates, Mullen) was saying no, the State Department (Clinton, Rice), was saying yes.

Remember too, this covert operation was going to require NATO Admiral James Stavridis to allow the weapons into Libya. So lets look at what he was quoted saying around the same timeframe as Mullen and Gates, *knowing Stavridis was one of the actual key figures to make the weapons delivery possible*:

2011 – […] Now, as the White House and NATO continue to debate the possible ramifications of arming the Libyan opposition, the Haqqani network-linked Afghan commander says Libyan al Qaeda affiliates seem to be more “enthusiastic” about the war against Gaddafi every day.

And from what the Afghan Taliban commander has seen, there appears to be more than “flickersof al Qaeda’s presence in Libya, the description given by NATO commander Admiral James Stavridis. (link)

There is Stavridis playing down the possibility of al-Qaeda ideology within the make-up of the Islamic Fighting Group – which is important because by the time this quote was attributed Stavridis was already part of the team coordinating the shipments.

Samantha Power - Susan Rice - President Obama

Also, remember R2P? This March/April 2011 timeframe is when “Responsibility To Protect” came up as a justification for our engagement. Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton all wanting to fully support “the rebels”.

Ultimately Obama/Jarrett (The White House) agreed with Hillary Inc (State Dept); hence “Zero Footprint” got the nod – well, let’s be really accurate: it “sort of” got the nod.

Think about it. President Obama authorized arming the Libyan rebels, but the covert nature of Zero Footprint actually reflects the political filter through which all Obama White House decisions are made. A White House team that always looks for an escape hatch in case any decision is ever publically wrong.

If the rebels were al-Qaeda, the covert op lends plausible deniability.

Isn’t it strange how in 2014 hindsight you can clearly see exactly what we now know as the “Benghazi narrative”; the use of their exact escape hatch because they were al-Qaeda, and it did go horribly and publically wrong.

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PART IIIOperation Zero Footprint Becomes Political and Legal Risk

It should be noted, and actually emphasized, that Operation Zero Footprint, at least in 2011, was not illegal. Indeed, all indicators are that President Obama followed his constitutional responsibility as he carried out his executive authority.

We know in late February 2011 President Obama signed a Presidential Finding Memo authorizing the State Department and CIA to engage in actions within Libya to identify a course of action.

We know in March 2011 when Hillary Clinton (State Dept) and Leon Panetta (CIA) constructed “Operation Zero Footprint” that President Obama approved the covert action and then informed the Gang of Eight of the weapons transfer operation.

Both of those known facts speak well to the Executive Office following a legally outlined process. This does not, however, dismiss the concern, which became the reality, that the action itself was terribly flawed and horridly imprudent.

During March, April and May 2011 there was enough intelligence information flowing to the White House informing them of exactly who would be the beneficiaries of U.S. Libyan involvement and specifically providing weapons. It did not take long to identify the Benghazi and Darnah “rebels” were actually affiliates of al-Qaeda.

While no-one reporting in 2011 was aware of Operation Zero Footprint, there were literally hundreds of media reports showcasing the ideology of the Libyan “rebel” uprising. Indeed there were numerous reports in mainstream media outlets of al-Qaeda fighters (numerous factions) flowing to Libya to oust their life-long nemesis, Gaddaffi.

From a policy standpoint it will have to be left up to historians to pore over the facts and ultimately decide what was *this* White House goal in the entire region.

      • Ben Ali removal -Tunisia- seemed OK to the administration, Obama and Clinton.
      • Hosni Mubarak removal -Egypt- seemed even more ok to Obama and Clinton.

Both of the above were viewed as potential sources for favorable policy outcomes. Indeed the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt -and election of President Morsi- did not seem to be a concern for the White House.

However, when you get to Gaddaffi’s removal -Libya- you see a serious split between ideologies within the U.S. political class as Obama/Clinton actually pushed the outcome. The U.S. defense department saying they were apprehensive about this outcome, and Obama/Clinton going “all in” for Gaddaffi ouster with French President Sarkozy.

The same interventionist Obama/Clinton motivation was evident with Syria’s Assad as yet another uprising surfaced in yet another Mid-East nation – again in March/April 2011.

We know on October 20th 2011 Libyan Leader Muammar Gaddaffi was finally captured, then killed by “the rebels”.

Gaddafi being shotDead-Gaddafi

From the standpoint of “regime change” operation Zero Footprint was a success.

The Libyan Transitional National Council was now in control. Well, maybe in charge, or, well, sort of.

The TNC (pictured below 4 days later) may have been the face of Libya the Obama/Clinton team wanted to portray. But they were merely just that, a face.

Abdel Jalil and the Libyan National Transitional Council

We know Eastern Libya was then (2011), and is now (2014), a hotbed of radical Islam controlled by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Groups, the very people who benefitted from the arms that were part of Zero Footprint.

We know by the Fall/Winter of 2011 the U.S. State Dept and CIA were joined and trying to re-secure the same weapons they provided in the Spring/Summer.

December 2011 – New York Times:

“Assistant Secretary of State Andrew J. Shapiro raised the American desire to arrange a purchase program in a meeting this month with Libya’s new defense minister, according to American officials familiar with the proposal.

The United States has committed $40 million to secure Libya’s arms stockpiles, much of it to prevent the spread of Manpads. No budget has been designed for a purchase program, and the price to be paid for each missile and its components has not been determined, the official said. (link)

We know from a speech delivered by Asst. Secretary of State Shapiro in Feb of 2012 the actual program to recapture the Zero Footprint weapons began in August of 2011 about two months before Gaddaffi was killed:

“Once the stalemate broke and the fighting rapidly shifted in the TNC’s [Libyan Transitional National Council] favor in August, we immediately deployed a State Department expert from the MANPADS Task Force to Benghazi.

Mark Adams, who you will hear from shortly on the panel, is the head of our MANPADS Task Force and spent considerable time on the ground in Libya.

[… ] The initial primary objective was to reach an agreement with the TNC to set up a MANPADS control and destruction program that would enable us to set up what we call our Phase I efforts.

Phase I entailed an effort to rapidly survey, secure, and disable loose MANPADS across the country. To accomplish this, we immediately deployed our Quick Reaction Force, which are teams made up of civilian technical specialists.”

We know those “civilian technical specialists”, being talked about in August 2011, were contractors, CIA contractors, hired by the State Department to recapture the weapons – some of which they provided as a specific consequence of Operation Zero Footprint.

If the story ended there it would be bad enough. A flawed policy, a secret mission arm the Libyan “rebels” without a great deal of thinking through the longer term consequences. A flawed policy with political consequences.

But when you think about the larger picture you understand why the details of the covert weapons operation Zero Footprint were so tightly guarded among select members of Congress (the Gang of Eight), the CIA (Panetta), the State Department (Clinton) and the White House (Donilon).

Each of them was trying to manage a covert operation that would expose a U.S. policy decision to arm al-Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist militias.

But that’s only “IF” the story ended there, in Libya, at the end of 2011 into the beginning of 2012. It didn’t, the decisions got worse – much worse.

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The uprising in Syria was only a few months behind the uprising in Libya. Arguably if the timing were reversed you could ponder that Assad would have met Gaddaffi’s fate, and Gaddaffi would be as alive today as President Assad.

Whichever rebel group got the attention of the R2P crowd was sure to be the first to get assistance. The Obama R2P Doctrine is so tenuous, and so lacking in political principle, it’s subject to change based on the political whims of capitol hill at any given moment.

The Libyan “rebels” got all the weaponry love – the Syrian “rebels”, not-so-much. At least in 2011; by mid 2012 that sentiment appears to have changed.

Enter Hillary Clinton. As she reiterated vehemently to Greta Van Sustern during a recent interview, it was Hillary who wanted to help the Syrian rebels when no-one else wanted to assist them. Secretary Hillary Clinton wanted early and direct interventionist action in Syria to topple Assad just like Gaddaffi.

Obviously consequences from the first covert weapons mission in Libya made a stark case for not repeating it in Syria. Another huge factor against helping the FSA was Israel. Ultimately Israel could not afford to be put into such a risky position if Syrian rebel forces were given arms that ultimately might be used against them.

Additionally, you would think there’s no way congress, in an election year, would approve of funding Syrian rebels against the possibility of it hurting Israel; And the White House was not about to do a known and official covert operation which had a great potential to go sideways, and become far too politically dangerous. 2012 was an election year.

But they did.

Who wanted to aid Syria more? President Obama or Hillary Clinton? That is a question for later year historians. Regardless of how the idea came up, we know a decision was made to do it, and to do it covertly.

Arming the Benghazi Darnah rebels was, well, stupid. It was actually stupid, and politically stupid, but it was not illegal.

Arming jihadist fighters in Syria likewise ended up being stupid but by all appearances NOT illegal.


In August 2012, one month before the attack on the Benghazi Compound, the following Reuters article appeared.  This is how we find out about the SECOND presidential finding which again authorized covert CIA involvement, this time in Syria:

WASHINGTON, Aug 1 [2012] (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.

Obama’s order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence “finding,” broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.

This and other developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad’s armed opponents – a shift that intensified following last month’s failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.

The White House is for now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just that.

But U.S. and European officials have said that there have been noticeable improvements in the coherence and effectiveness of Syrian rebel groups in the past few weeks. That represents a significant change in assessments of the rebels by Western officials, who previously characterized Assad’s opponents as a disorganized, almost chaotic, rabble.

Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.

The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear.

White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment.


A U.S. government source acknowledged that under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.

Last week, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military and communications support to Assad’s opponents.

This “nerve center” is in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles (100 km) from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.

Turkey’s moderate Islamist government has been demanding Assad’s departure with growing vehemence. Turkish authorities are said by current and former U.S. government officials to be increasingly involved in providing Syrian rebels with training and possibly equipment.

European government sources said wealthy families in Saudi Arabia and Qatar were providing significant financing to the rebels. Senior officials of the Saudi and Qatari governments have publicly called for Assad’s departure.

On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the Free Syrian Army had obtained nearly two dozen surface-to-air missiles, weapons that could be used against Assad’s helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. Syrian government armed forces have employed such air power more extensively in recent days.

NBC said the shoulder-fired missiles, also known as MANPADs, had been delivered to the rebels via Turkey.

On Wednesday, however, Bassam al-Dada, a political adviser to the Free Syrian Army, denied the NBC report, telling the Arabic-language TV network Al-Arabiya that the group had “not obtained any such weapons at all.” U.S. government sources said they could not confirm the MANPADs deliveries, but could not rule them out either.

Current and former U.S. and European officials previously said that weapons supplies, which were being organized and financed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia, were largely limited to guns and a limited number of anti-tank weapons, such as bazookas.

Indications are that U.S. agencies have not been involved in providing weapons to Assad’s opponents. In order to do so, Obama would have to approve a supplement, known as a “memorandum of notification, to his initial broad intelligence finding.

Further such memoranda would have to be signed by Obama to authorize other specific clandestine operations to support Syrian rebels.

Reuters first reported last week that the White House had crafted a directive authorizing greater U.S. covert assistance to Syrian rebels. It was unclear at that time whether Obama had signed it.  (read more)

Note how the FSA says they didn’t get missiles, and yet missiles were shipped.   This is important against the backdrop of the reality the extreme elements we now call ISIL were operating in Syria and openly laughing at our inability to identify them:

"NO ISLAM WITHOUT JIHAD" - members of the Free Syrian Army. Abu Khuder and his men fight for al-Qaida. They call themselves the ghuraba'a, or "strangers", after a famous jihadi poem celebrating Osama bin Laden's time with his followers in the Afghan mountains, and they are one of a number of jihadi organisations establishing a foothold in the east of the country now that the conflict in Syria has stretched well into its second bloody year. They try to hide their presence. "Some people are worried about carrying the [black] flags," said Abu Khuder. "They fear America will come and fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar and the west a pretext?" But their existence is common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs and IEDs.

“NO ISLAM WITHOUT JIHAD” – members of the Free Syrian Army. Abu Khuder and his men fight for al-Qaida. They call themselves the ghuraba’a, or “strangers”, after a famous jihadi poem celebrating Osama bin Laden’s time with his followers in the Afghan mountains, and they are one of a number of jihadi organisations establishing a foothold in the east of the country now that the conflict in Syria has stretched well into its second bloody year.
They try to hide their presence. “Some people are worried about carrying the [black] flags,” said Abu Khuder. “They fear America will come and fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar and the west a pretext?” But their existence is common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs and IEDs.

(JULY 2012) As they stood outside the commandeered government building in the town of Mohassen, it was hard to distinguish Abu Khuder’s men from any other brigade in the Syrian civil war, in their combat fatigues, T-shirts and beards.

But these were not average members of the Free Syrian Army. Abu Khuder and his men fight for al-Qaida. They call themselves the ghuraba’a, or “strangers”, after a famous jihadi poem celebrating Osama bin Laden’s time with his followers in the Afghan mountains, and they are one of a number of jihadi organisations establishing a foothold in the east of the country now that the conflict in Syria has stretched well into its second bloody year.

They try to hide their presence. “Some people are worried about carrying the [black] flags,” said Abu Khuder. “They fear America will come and fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar and the west a pretext?” But their existence is common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs and IEDs.

According to Abu Khuder, his men are working closely with the military council that commands the Free Syrian Army brigades in the region. “We meet almost every day,” he said. “We have clear instructions from our [al-Qaida] leadership that if the FSA need our help we should give it. We help them with IEDs and car bombs. Our main talent is in the bombing operations.” Abu Khuder’s men had a lot of experience in bomb-making from Iraq and elsewhere, he added. 

[…]  Abu Khuder split with the FSA and pledged allegiance to al-Qaida’s organisation in Syria, the Jabhat al Nusra or Solidarity Front. He let his beard grow and adopted the religious rhetoric of a jihadi, becoming a commander of one their battalions.

“The Free Syrian Army has no rules and no military or religious order. Everything happens chaotically,” he said. “Al-Qaida has a law that no one, not even the emir, can break.

The FSA lacks the ability to plan and lacks military experience. That is what [al-Qaida] can bring. They have an organisation that all countries have acknowledged.

In the beginning there were very few. Now, mashallah, there are immigrants joining us and bringing their experience,” he told the gathered people. “Men from Yemen, Saudi, Iraq and Jordan. Yemenis are the best in their religion and discipline and the Iraqis are the worst in everything – even in religion.”

At this, one man in the room – an activist in his mid-30s who did not want to be named – said: “So what are you trying to do, Abu Khuder? Are you going to start cutting off hands and make us like Saudi? Is this why we are fighting a revolution?”

“[Al-Qaida’s] goal is establishing an Islamic state and not a Syrian state,” he replied. “Those who fear the organisation fear the implementation of Allah’s jurisdiction. If you don’t commit sins there is nothing to fear.” (link – more)

Against the backdrop of ISIL 2014 does this Sound familiar ?

It should also be noted this is the exact time (August 2012) when the U.N. and Kofi Annan gave up trying to influence a peaceful outcome in Syria – things had escalated beyond any hope for a diplomatic resolution.

We know the basic set up to arm the Syrian rebellion was generally not too complex.

Turkey would be used as the distribution hub, and the U.S. had Sunni friends in Saudi Arabia, and Qatar -who were more than willing to see Assad removed- and financially assist in arming the Syrians without too great a concern for what could happen to Israel.

For Obama/Clinton to get weapons to the Syrians, against the shadow of Operation Zero Footprint, without going extensively through congress, could be done covertly and easily.   Either ship weapons just like Operation Zero Footprint, Saudi ==> Qatar ==> Turkey ==> Syria, OR, buy back the weapons already floating around from Operation Zero Footprint and redirect them to Syria through Turkey.

OR both.

The Saudis would be a willing financier if the State Dept needed additional money to facilitate the transfers.

We know Ambassador Chris Stevens set up a formal U.S. Embassy consulate in Tripoli around May 26th of 2012; and we know the State Dept and CIA set up their joint operations in Benghazi around the same time.   We also now know this is around the EXACT time of the second Presidential CIA Directive.

Looking at the historical timeline, and knowing the contacts developed, gives a great perspective into what would have spurred the CIA/State Department to set up a more expansive presence and operation in the coastal region of Eastern Libya May/June 2012.

The official U.S. State Dept Libyan presence was vacated on Feb 25th of 2011 when the embassy personell were evacuated. Stevens was re-establishing the diplomatic office and acting as Ambassador to Libya during the 2012 reconstruction phase.

What we did not know at the time was that Chris Stevens was also acting as the facilitator for U.S. arms shipments OUT OF LIBYA, through Turkish diplomatic couriers and into Syria.  While coordinating a second  covert action to arm the Syrian resistance.

A very strong argument can easily be made that Chris Stevens was a CIA operative inside the State Department. Many people within the State Department are CIA personnel using the State Dept as part of their visible cover.

In Eastern Libya June, July, August 2012 – Obviously the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Ansar Al Sharia, aka 17th Feb Brigade, and all of their commanders knew of the U.S. Benghazi weapons programs. Both the 2011 distribution, and the 2012 repurchase.

Considering the redeployment to Syria – for the most part the Benghazi and Darnah brigades would have been in alignment with their Jihadist brethren in Syria being the beneficiaries of any additional shipments.

But there was in 2011/2012 – as noted in the above articles – an ideological rift between the newly emboldened Muslim Brotherhood and the ‘more initially moderate’ Free Syrian Army (FSA). As the Libyan conflict rolled on through the summer of 2011 more al-Qaeda elements flocked from other engagements into the Syrian fight. Moderates were replaced by extremists.

By the time of the second presidential directive, as Hillary and Chris Stevens were working on support for Syria, Summer 2012, the radical Syrian opposition was embedded inside the FSA. Arguably in hindsight they were the majority element.

The Syrian opposition had three al-Qaida arms operating within it. Including one that also operated in Libya:

      • Jund al-Sham, which is made up of al-Qaida militants who are Syrian, Palestinian and Lebanese;
      • Jund al-Islam, which in recent years merged with Ansar al-Islam, an extremist group of Sunni Iraqis operating under the al-Qaida banner and operating in Yemen and Libya;
      • Jund Ansar al-Allah, an al-Qaida group based in Gaza linked to Palestinian camps in Lebanon and Syria.

It would be into this eclectic mix of Jihadist ideologues, which later became ISIL, that any diverted U.S. arms would flow. It’s no wonder that Senator John McCain was so confused when he was calling them “moderates” in 2012/2013. Almost no-one knew the severe elements in Syria would rise to the surface and become the modern ISIS now capturing all of the global attention.

ISIS John McCain - Abu Mosa

al-Qaeda with flags

And…. If you just realized…. Yes, ISIS or ISIL currently on the march in Iraq, came from Syria, fought in Syria and more than likely was armed by the U.S. inside Syria and Turkey.  They were more likely trained, in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles (100 km) from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence;  by the same CIA operatives used by the State Dept to send Syria weapons from Benghazi and Darnah back in Libya.

If Operation Zero Footprint in Libya was stupid, arming the Syrian branches of al-Qaeda two years after the FSA was thoroughly corrupted by al-Qaeda, is infinite degrees beyond stupid.

But that’s hindsight for ya….. or as Secretary Clinton would say “Whether they were, … at this point, what difference does it make?

By June of 2012 the New York Times was reporting that the CIA is operating a secret arms transfer program to Syria that sounded exactly like the re-diversion plan Clinton developed with Panetta/Petraeus. According to the Times suddenly, there is: “…an influx of weapons and ammunition to the rebels.”

The Reuters article in August 2012 confirms the earlier report.

We know on September 5th 2012 – A Libyan flagged ship called Al Entisar (“The Victory”) docks in the Turkish port of Iskenderun. It is carrying 400 tons of cargo including many weapons such as rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) destined for Syrian rebels 35 miles away from Iskenderun.

The ship’s captain told the Times of London that the Muslim Brotherhood and the Free Syrian Army broke into a fight over the arms.

Operation Zero Footprint

UPDATE IV – In response to the Times of London report, and in a generally dismissed part of her congressional testimony, Senator Rand Paul asked outgoing Secretary Hillary Clinton a very specific question – (See @2:20 of this video and pay attention to the “duping delight”):

Which would bring us to a series of now reconcilable questions surrounding the joint State Dept. and CIA Benghazi Mission.

The entire weapons operation 2011 was labeled “Operation Zero Footprint”. The intent is outlined in the operational title – to leave no visible record of U.S. involvement in arming the Libyan “rebels”. No visible footprint.

We know from congressional inquiry Ambassador Chris Stevens had asked for more security in the months prior to Sept. 11th 2012. Requests sent to the State Dept that were denied.

We also know that NO MARINE DETACHMENT was ever put in place to defend the Benghazi Mission.

We also know the Benghazi Mission was initially, and mistakenly by media, called “a consulate”, or a “consulate outpost”. But there was no State Dept record of any consulate office in Benghazi.

All of these seeming contradictions can be reconciled with the simple understanding that this “Mission” in 2011 was unofficial. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We also know the Second Operation, in 2012, to arm the Syrians’was also covert – No visible footprint.

Why were security requests denied? Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We know from General Carter Ham (AFRICOM Commander now retired) the Department of Defense was not even aware the State Dept was operating a mission in Benghazi during 2012. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

How could Hillary Clinton, Charlene Lamb, or Patrick Kennedy approve or request a marine security detachment knowing the entire mission around both Benghazi operations was covert?

Such a request would have travelled outside the small group of State/CIA insiders. The request would have gone to DoD. Short answer, they couldn’t.

Hence the disconnect between what seemed to be obvious and/or simple questions and the inability to accurately discuss in the public venues of congressional inquiry.

To the public Chris Stevens was a U.S. ambassador, a diplomat. To the folks inside the State Dept and CIA, Chris Stevens was a U.S. Ambassador, AND a CIA operative coordinating covert arms sales.

In 2011 those arms shipments were to aid the Libyan rebels, in 2012 those same arms were redirected to aid the Syrian rebels.

Even after death the public face of Chris Stevens, the official role, was the only role able to be discussed. The covert, or unofficial role, was not. Again, we see the disconnect between inquiry that could be answered, and inquiry that could not be answered. Many irreconcilables surface because of this intelligence role – even through today.

The second role of Stevens, the covert and CIA aspect, still causes problems for people trying to understand the “why not” questions. The broader public asking why have we not seen, or heard from the survivors of the attacks?

The short answer is, we have not heard from the survivors – but the intelligence community has.

Twice some of the survivors have given testimony to congress. The problem for the public is that those hearings are closed door, classified, intelligence hearings – led by Chairman Mike Rogers and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Again, go back to the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint and you see the congressional Intelligence Gang of Eight were fully aware of the intents.

The Gang of Eight in 2011 / 2012 was:  House Speaker – John Boehner, Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi; House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers, and his Democrat counterpart Charles Ruppersberger; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; along with Senate Intel Chair Diane Feinstein and her Republican counterpart, Saxby Chambliss.

Why was Speaker Boehner reluctant to establish a Select Committee on Benghazi ?

Simple, again he is one of the Gang of Eight – and he was briefed on both operations. How is he going to call for a select committee when he knows the substance of the committee investigation is classified under national security. Such a committee would not, because it could not, deliver what the public was requesting, sunlight.

The only reason Trey Gowdy was finally assigned the task of a Select Committee, was simply because the public lies of the White House and administration were contradicting themselves.

The White House “talking points“, which was/is a ridiculous squirrel hunt, were created to reconcile the problem faced when unable to discuss a covert operation.

It is far easier to look at the reality of the problem faced by the White House and CIA than any nefarious intention.

Unfortunately for the administration they are not that good.

Team Obama was so committed to keeping the covert operations “Zero Footprint” a secret (because of the political embarrassment from factually arming al Qaeda) that the cover story they manufactured (on the fly) was fraught with contradictions.

How could President Obama dispatch help to the Benghazi team, when DoD was not even aware of it’s existence? Sending help would have compromised OpSec, Operational Security.

The dispatch of F.E.S.T. would lead to increased knowledge of a covert operation.

Hopefully you are beginning to see the root of the contradictions. Once you understand the truth of what was going on within the backstory – there’s almost nothing left which would dangle as an unanswered question. It all reconciles.

Back to the FALL of 2012 – On September 5th/6th 2012 the Turkish vessel “Al Entisar” docked in the Turkish port of Iskenderun. 400 tons of serious cargo including weapons destined for Syrian “rebels”.

In the U.S. that September 5th night former President Bill Clinton was introducing Candidate Barack Obama at the DNC convention in Charlotte North Carolina. In Afghanistan that night something happened that had already become a serious concern for the operatives within “Operation Zero Footprint”.

Chief Warrant Officer 2 Thalia Ramirez.  Ramirez was killed when her OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter crashed in eastern Afghanistan Sept. 5, 2012.  Ramirez was assigned to Troop F, 1-17 Air Cavalry Regiment, 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division. Photo: Photo Courtesy Pro Image Digital;Inc., Courtesy / U.S. ArmyAt the exact time Clinton was speaking in North Carolina, halfway around the world in Afghanistan Army Chief Warrant Officers Thalia S. Ramirez, 28, of San Antonio and Jose L. Montenegro Jr., 31, of San Juan, in the Rio Grande Valley, were killed while flying an OH-58D Kiowa Warrior, a Defense Department news release stated.

On September 5th 2012 – A U.S. organized ship loaded with weapons including missiles was offloading at a Turkish port. Bill Clinton was introducing Barack Obama, and the first black female combat pilot was shot down and killed by a shoulder fired missile in Afghanistan.

The relationship between the three events reflects the absolute political fear that revolved around Operation Zero Footprint.

The CIA and Intelligence community had stated earlier the biggest concern anyone held about arming the Libyan Rebels was the possibility those weapons might leave the Libyan conflict and travel to other locations where they would be used against our own soldiers. More and more evidence of this happening was growing.

In 2011 a total of four air assets were destroyed by enemy fire in Afghanistan. Two of those helicopters happened at the same time in August 2011 when we lost the Navy Seal unit that killed Osama Bin Laden. 22 Americans killed.

We had been in close quarter full combat operations in Afghanistan for 10 years, and we never had a problem with close air support. We had never faced the concern of our enemy having MANPADS. 2002 through 2010 saw zero occurrences of SAMS, Stingers, or MANPADS in general.

Within months after delivering weapons to the Benghazi and Darnah rebels (May, June and July 2011) we began facing MANPADS in Afghanistan.

Four instances in late in 2011 including the 22 lives lost in what came to be known as Operation “Extortion 17”.

In 2012 it got worse, much worse: June 1st AFGHANISTAN:

A combined patrol discovered a weapons cache containing three shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missiles, three anti-tank mines, 423 RPGs, 118,600 7.62 mm rounds, 30 rifles and other ordnance in the Tarin Kot district of Uruzgan province. The cache’s contents were destroyed. (link)

We had a serious problem and it was picking up speed exponentially. June 6th 2012 we lost another crew. July 25th 2012 yet another. August 16th 2012 again more losses. September 5th 2012 more deaths. It just kept getting worse.

By September 5th 2012 in the preceding nine months we had lost 11 helicopters to shoulder fired missiles in Afghanistan. The following headline hit the media:

America Suffers Worst Airpower Loss Since Vietnam

One of the incidents revealed details of what was being faced. The July 25th 2012 downing of a CH-47 which was found to have been hit with a “new generation” stinger missile. The risks were no longer mere worries, they were real:

[O]n July 25, 2012, Taliban fighters in Kunar province successfully targeted a US Army CH-47 helicopter with a new generation Stinger missile.

They thought they had a surefire kill. But instead of bursting into flames, the Chinook just disappeared into the darkness as the American pilot recovered control of the aircraft and brought it to the ground in a hard landing.

The assault team jumped out the open doors and ran clear in case it exploded. Less than 30 seconds later, the Taliban gunner and his comrade erupted into flames as an American gunship overhead locked onto their position and opened fire.

The next day, an explosive ordnance disposal team arrived to pick through the wreckage and found unexploded pieces of a missile casing that could only belong to a Stinger missile.

Lodged in the right nacelle, they found one fragment that contained an entire serial number.

The investigation took time. Arms were twisted, noses put out of joint. But when the results came back, they were stunning: The Stinger tracked back to a lot that had been signed out by the CIA recently, not during the anti-Soviet ­jihad.

Reports of the Stinger reached the highest echelons of the US command in Afghanistan and became a source of intense speculation, but no action.

Everyone knew the war was winding down. Revealing that the Taliban had US-made Stingers risked demoralizing coalition troops. Because there were no coalition casualties, government officials made no public announcement of the attack.

My sources in the US Special Operations community believe the Stinger fired against the Chinook was part of the same lot the CIA turned over to the ­Qataris in early 2011, weapons Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department intended for anti-Khadafy forces in Libya.

They believe the Qataris delivered between 50 and 60 of those same Stingers to the Taliban in early 2012, and an additional 200 SA-24 Igla-S surface-to-air missiles. (link)

In Afghanistan the DoD field response was immediate; all Close Air Support was cancelled.

The White House had a problem – “Operation Zero Footprint” missiles were now being used against us, but DoD didn’t know the origin because the Defense Department did not know about Zero Footprint, the State Department and CIA did.

The killing of Army Chief Warrant Officers Thalia S. Ramirez, 28, and Jose L. Montenegro Jr., 31, might not have been the final straw – but their September 5th 2012 deaths coincided with an absolute change in direction.

While the ISIS-minded Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and the Free Syrian Army were arguing over who gets what from aboard the Turkish vessel, back in Benghazi, Libya it was obvious the ideology of the Syrian factions were too extreme and the CIA could no longer control who would use such weapons.

God forbid DoD ground commanders in Afghanistan find out the MANPADS they were facing originated by our covert efforts in Libya.

Tayyip Erdogan - Turkey, David Cameron - U.K.

Tayyip Erdogan – Turkey, David Cameron – U.K.

Strangely one must give credit to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. As unbelievable as it might sound he was the lone Islamic voice in March 2011 saying “don’t arm the Benghazi rebels“:

March 2011 – Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister, has said he does not support the idea of arming Libyan rebels fighting to oust Muammar Gaddafi from power.

Speaking at a joint news conference with David Cameron, the British prime minister, in London, Erdogan said: “Doing that would create a different situation in Libya and we do not find it appropriate to do that.”

Erdogan also said that that sending weapons to Libya could feed terrorism, saying such weapons shipments “could also create an environment which could be conducive to terrorism”. (read more)

Erdogan and U.S. Defense Secretary Bob Gates were of the same mindset.

“My view would be, if there is going to be that kind of assistance to the opposition, there are plenty of sources for it other than the United States,” said Gates. “Somebody else should do that.” (link)

However, for Syria in 2012 Erdogan had a divergent opinion.  He was all for arming the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda.   This article, again from August 2012 – one month prior to the attack against Chris Stevens, outlines the goal of both Erdogan and President Obama:

(August 2012) President Barack Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke by telephone Monday “to coordinate efforts to accelerate a political transition in Syria,” the White House said.

This “would include the departure of (Syrian leader) Bashar Assad and be responsive to the legitimate demands of the Syrian people,” the statement said.

Obama and Erdogan shared their concerns over the Syrian regime’s crackdown on opposition “and the deteriorating humanitarian conditions throughout Syria as a result of the regime’s atrocities.”

Both [Obama and Erodgan] promised to coordinate efforts to help the growing numbers of Syrians displaced by the violence within Syria or forced to flee over the border to take refuse in Turkey or other nations in the region.

The statement said US and Turkish teams “would remain in close contact on ways that Turkey and the United States can work together to promote a democratic transition in Syria.”  (link)

Obama Erdogan - Turkey

Alas, given the backstory of DoD not wanting to arm the rebels, and given the unintended consequences of 2011/2012 from Operation Zero Footprint, and given an upcoming election in November 2012, you can see why in post September 11 of 2012 the Obama administration would want to discontinue this operation and throw a bag over the events of the past 17 months.

Perhaps following the fiasco at the Port of Iskenderun a week earlier, Turkish Diplomat Consul General Ali Sait Akin arrives at the Benghazi Mission on Sept 11th 2012 to talk about the ongoing efforts to support Syria.

Perhaps, the conversation was about the increasing risk of arming a rising group of radicals against the backdrop of MANPADS being used against U.S. forces in other fields of combat.

Regardless of motivation Ali Sait Akin and Stevens were most certainly discussing the current situation with Turkey suffering the consequences and pushing a greater sense of urgency.

Indeed Turkey’s border region was filled with historic numbers of Syrian refugees fleeing the fighting which was completely out of control. The Scale of the crisis was staggering and out of control. Over 500,000 Syrians were now seeking shelter in Turkey.

Meanwhile the ideology of the radical elements controlling the arms shipments was openly becoming a danger to the entire region, and especially U.S. interests beyond Syria.

This would have put Stevens (U.S.) and Akin (Turkey) as opposing ends of the issue.

What we now know as ISIS – originated inside this group of Zero Footprint recipients, and Erdogan while willing to see Assad removed, was also well aware that these elements do not believe in borders. These rabid ideologues (now known as ISIS-2014) were quickly evolving into a risk for the region.

The U.S. policy team would have viewed the risk far differently than Turkey.

As the New York Times reported in an Oct. 14 2012 article, “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster.”

We can only imagine the conversation within the Benghazi compound as both Ali Sait Akin and Chris Stevens parted ways for the final time on September 11th 2012.

Outside the compound walls, the 17th Feb Brigade – Ansar Al Sharia – were also assembled to deliver their final goodbyes.

The Turkish delegation was able to navigate the roadblocks without issue.  And within 30 minutes of Consul Akin leaving the venue, Ansar Al Sharia executed their attack.

The Benghazi and Darnah Brigades already knew the compound inside and out, as well as the CIA ANNEX compound, a kilometer away, which contained four warehouse type buildings used by the CIA during the collection, distribution and delivery of Zero Footprint’s objectives over the past 17 months.

In June of 2009 the primary Benghazi Mission compound looked like this:

In March of 2011, when Operation Zero Footprint began, the Tactical Operations Command building (TOC) was added and it looked like this:


In December of 2005 the area which became the CIA Annex compound held two buildings:


In 2009 two more buildings were added bringing the total to FOUR:


By the time the CIA took over 2011, and when the compound came under mortar fire 2012, it looked like this:


Author’s notes:

patriotThe primary reason for outlining this brief is to deliver a greater understanding of why things happened the way they did in the post 9/11/12 attack media frenzy.

If you understand what took place from March 2011 through the night of the attack itself all of the contradictions reconcile, and most of the questions become answered.

Factually, I would challenge anyone who reads this brief to actually have a question left unanswered.

The events of the attack itself are gut wrenching and troubling. Our brave operations folks had to fight their way out of a situation where they literally were on their own due to the political risks inherent in carrying out their objectives.

Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the mission they were tasked to carry out, there is no doubt they worked honorably to serve their nation. Ultimately the leadership within the State Department, The CIA, and the White House are responsible for the outcomes of policy.

Our hope is that this outline will stimulate journalists to question those who were at the heart of these two operations.  Ultimately the Trey Gowdy select committee will find there is no venue to discuss intelligence operations with public sunlight.  While both Zero Footprint in 2011, and the Unnamed CIA operation in 2012 were flawed policy – they were not necessarily illegal.

There is a matter of an unidentified State Dept $6 billion contractor fund missing from Hillary’s term as Secretary of State;  that might bear investigation.  However, beyond those smaller questions there is little if anything to gain.


~ Sundance

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88 Responses to The Benghazi Brief – The Entire Story Of Operation “Zero Footprint” In Libya and Why Further Benghazi Committee Hearings Are Futile…

  1. doodahdaze says:

    From Joe Rochefort at Midway in WWII to this Bungle in Benghazi we have come a long way. In the wrong direction. The search for terrestrial intelligent life within the Obama Administration continues.


  2. tappin52 says:

    There is something that I don’t understand. You were able to get all of this information and put the puzzle together and publish this piece out into the universe for all to read. But somehow, Trey Gowdy’s investigation can’t dig into this because of the secret covert nature of the operation? “…no venue to discuss Intelligence operations in public sunlight.” But it is all right here. It already is public.

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  3. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
    Hey great work, it matches perfectly with what I know and fits with my personal knowledge of Military operations when I was a Green Beret back in the day! Keep up the good work I’m impressed!


  4. nyetneetot says:

    Great work!


  5. Sarah says:

    Sundance….at first I didnt understand your questioning and confusion regarding the committee and further investigation. I knew I was missing something because I often turn to you for clarification, and if you were confused…well that meant I was missing something big. As usual you came through. I am now educated and as you stated many times…these pieces fit together perfectly. It all makes sense and although I think we are still missing some components here, I dont think they are major game changers. Thank you again. I cant imagine how lost I would be without you all working so hard.


  6. Rudy says:

    Great work…brings into light of what happen. I do have a question, Bob Gates retires and is replace by Bob Gates?? Here it is in your own words… “Both Secretary Gates and Joint Chiefs Chair McMullen were in place when Operation Zero Footprint began but retired from their jobs in Sept of 2011, and were replaced by Bob Gates and Martin Dempsey respectively.”


  7. czarowniczy says:

    This has been a really great read from post-1, a great piece of investigative digging that, I hope, will be preserved as a historical note for those who care about what happened vice those who have a passing interest at best.

    From day-one I’d said this will be buried, the ground planted, reseeded with disambiguations, deceit and deception – it’s how we worked in the government, and at all levels. This is one of those inconvenient truths writ large and must become something else – a tragedy that carries no stain.

    The act will end up as a footnote in history books, even a historical piece on a branch of the History Channel were they to ever run out of ancient alien ‘history’, but it will be just an incident with dead people and no blame or trail of blame.

    This administration’s more like the Model UN team in junior high school, it didn’t want to be bothered with facts, history cause and effect – didn’t wanna be hassled with anything but its US agenda and the BS notion that they could turn this whole mess over to groups of peoples who haven’t been able to form what we consider a civilized government and lifestyle in centuries.

    Maybe they thought that all it would take was the US to stop being the imperialist, blue-eyed oppressor and the Peter Max world they envisioned would pop into view. Maybe they were thinking that the Obama centers-of-influence were being suppressed by evil US/Euro interests and once the Great White Christian devils were ousted the African/Mideast space program would finally be off the ground. Or perhaps they just had a bad case of Optic-Rectalitis (heads so far up their aes that they had a shy outlook on life), but in the end the dead are still as dead and the huge mess their blind stupidity has created is growing larger and may well be beyond reasonable control.

    You can add the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan to the ‘stupid mistake’ list, the mess in Benghazi is just more concentrated and easier for the public and media to digest. They are all part and parcel of one huge screwup that ain’t done biting us on our butts, more’s in the offing.

    Those wishing to do ill to America know that at this particular time they can kill Americans overseas and at home with little more expectation of punishment than the innercity thugs in places like Chicago, Detroit and New Orleans regularly receive – OK, maybe not that little. They know our POtuS is reluctant to interrupt his fund raising or golf to attend to such matters as genocide or neo-vandals invading the sovereign territory of other nations.

    It’s going to take a Reaganesque president to stop the advance of Islamic entropy, and a lot of money to repair our badly worn military – and I see neither on the horizon.

    I’m going to cut/save/print this piece of real journalism and tuck it into a book so that some future reader with interest in the incident will have something other than the history interpreted, whitewashed and written by some progressive, Berkeley, Birkenstock-wearing dissembler.

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    • canadacan says:

      I am saving it also.So many people .
      Trey Gowdyalready knows exactly what happened.
      All I can think about is that old business “if you are captured you are on your own and we will deny all knowledge of your existence and your mission”.
      John Le Carre & Tom Clancy stuff.


      • canadacan says:

        So many people will save it.


        • canadacan says:

          Savings Czar’s comment.


          • czarowniczy says:

            There are so many different section/branches/rat holes that are involved in this there’s virtually a parade of bureaucrats (not forgetting Congress) who want the entire affair as dead and buried as the victims are. Most of the examples I can draw upon are to obscure or small to give you an idea of how these things, from the get-go, are compromised by various actors who all want their hands in the operation for the glory but run like hell if it goes south. I suggest that if you want to see how a well-planned operation can get screwed by too many too many tweaker cooks in the kitchen you and find the various books done on Operation Eagle Claw. The pure steaming BS that was the result was the end failure was caused by all of the JCS jerks demanding they each get a piece of the pie. The disaster was massaged and oiled by the unctuous spinners with outright lies and half-truths mixed in so well that the public just added their ire to that already heaped on Carter. The JCS should have been fired and replaced by military at the end of that but bureaucrats cover for bureaucrats regardless of their attire – or lack thereof. Eagle Claw was an earlier version of Benghazi with the classic post-screwup coverups, including hearings attended to by stern-faced Congressmen who stared unforgivingly into the cameras. We, military and civilian, bleed and die for these government leeches’ disasters and I have no doubt future generations will continue to do so.


      • czarowniczy says:

        But rest assured that your predicaments won’t disturb the POtuS’s golf game.


    • I completely agree this piece is very good ! Brought together some of the missing pieces and thought processes I have been pondering for a long while….well done ! I agree with your analysis and would add about our military, this. I have spoken with numerous vets of the last ten years or so and MOST are feeling quite betrayed and despondent. They see ISIL using their own equipment and they are traumatized ? WOW I can seriously relate to that feeling and it makes me understand that we are in serious trouble. The reason is that we have nobody to draw on from this point forward because they all feel they have been undermined and the new guys simply cannot hang when the going gets tough , They just don’t have the gusto it takes to prevail in ANYTHING ! So going forward we are in deep shat! Combine that complete undermining of our military with the fact that USD will lose world currency status and we have major issues to overcome.

      I hate these fake wars. Politicos creating scenarios to help their insane positions and to control the populace. I have long known this admin is literally a bunch of morons and incompetents. I sometimes wonder how much is deliberate and how much is simply ignorance ? Not sure how to apply or at what ratio ? All I know for sure is that these people are whacked. Everything they do is some kind of orchestrated scheme to create a new illusion for the masses to buy into ? And everything the touch turns to shit .They seem to be simply sociopaths and psychopaths with massive US tax dollars to play their insane games of control with ! We cannot actually fathom the damage that has been done YET.


      • czarowniczy says:

        Reagan was a part of this too, whether his being dragged into the Iran-Contra mess was accidental, the result of the machinations of people he trusted or if he actually authorized them to do batsh*t crazy stuff will probably never be known. I do think that, on the heels of the Embassy takeover in Tehran, the affair made us look like dolts to those in the Mi9deast wishing us evil. Ditto the members of various Administrations selling military equipment to Saddam – even though some took him to the cleaners on it the fact that the Administrations put sanctions of Iraq and then sold them the things that were sanctioned didn’t convey a spirit of …let’s say ‘consistency’. The Russians and the Mideasterners knew that we were keeping the Iran-Iraq war going, their burning up military supplies and military members was all to our benefit but it also showed we didn’t have the stomach to go toe-to-toe with them ourselves. As painful as it is to say it, the Russians have a better relationship with the Mideast states than we do, and that’s considering the ‘tempestuous’ relationship the Russians have had with their Islamic neighbors – Afghanistan being only one bloody chapter. The Russians have professionally trained Orientalists working their embassies in the Mideast, we have whatever dolt wanders in to the President’s campaign office with a large check. The Russians have Ambassadors that speak the languages of the Mideast countries they are assigned to – we have few who speak English never mind the language of the county s’he’s assigned to. The Russians have long-term foreign policy goals that even survived the crash of the USSR – ours change at the whim of the new POTUS and/or the press. Any wonder we’re in the compost nose-deep?


  8. Ivan Awfulitch says:

    Your article is well put together until the dangling conclusion. It fails to explain why the 17th Feb Brigade – Ansar Al Sharia would attack and destroy the very goose that was providing the golden egg. If Stevens et al. were arranging the transfer of weapons to al Qaeda operatives, why stop that action? Ansar Al Sharia knew of the weapons transfer (see your article above). The ultimate end destination users included Rebel Leader Abu Sufian Ibriham Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu, who was a leader in Ansar Al Sharia and a leader of the attack on the consulate. Why would he want to stop the flow of weapons to himself?

    Remember, there was evidence that Morsi had a hand in directing members of the 17th Feb Brigade. Morsi needed to solidify his newly established presidency. Do some further research if you want to know why Stevens was captured. Much of your article is spot on, but you have not closed the door on why Ansar Al Sharia would try to capture Stevens. N.B. they did not attack the annex where the weapons were stored; they went for the consulate where Stevens was known to be. They wanted him. Ask yourself, why would they want Stevens? Then you will be moving in the right direction for the rest of the story.


    • sundance says:

      The conclusion is dangling because it cannot be fact based. There are two entities who held the highest motive for attacking Stevens and the compound:

      Syrian al-Qaeda (groups) and Libyan al-Qaeda (groups) – both essentially the Muslim Brotherhood.

      Turkey would have been indifferent.

      In my opinion both covert operations were being shut down and -against the backdrop of a current 2014 Libyan civil war- I can well imagine a U.S. conversation with the Islamic Fighting Group in Libya about why they didn’t need those U.S. weapons and missiles any longer, and the batshit crazy Libyan’s unwillingness to give them up.

      If you want to send a drug user into a rage, cut off his supply.


      • Ivan Awfulitch says:

        If the operations were being shut down at that time, and if the al-Qaeda groups knew of it, that would make sense. But the operations were in full swing, the CIA was gathering weapons that had wandered away, just five days before the attack on the consulate the Libyan flagged ship called Al Entisar was unloading tons of weapons in turkey.

        Furthermore, if al-Quaeda thought there was going to be a shortage of weapons, they should have gone for the annex, not the consulate.

        You are still missing the Morsi connection and haven’t answered why the rebels went for Stevens.


        • sundance says:

          Obviously you never read -as in digested- the brief. Your question (as you frame it) is answered in the middle of it.

          Factual inaccuracy Al Entisar is not Libyan flagged – it’s greek registry with Turkish lease.

          There was $500,000 + in the compound safe.

          You’d be safer staying away from “conspiracy theory”, and focusing on Occam’s Razor. Not everything is a GRAND scheme. Sometimes the normal level of insufferable stupidity is enough to explain the obvious.

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          • Ivan Awfulitch says:

            My apologies. I was merely using the language in the Sundance article:
            “We know on September 5th 2012 – A Libyan flagged ship called Al Entisar (“The Victory”) docks in the Turkish port of Iskenderun. It is carrying 400 tons of cargo including many weapons such as rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) destined for Syrian rebels 35 miles away from Iskenderun.”

            Your article is great and an invaluable service in collating the facts. I very much appreciate the work that went into it. I also agree that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. While you have strung the complex factual components of this story on a single thread, it does not preclude other threads that are not included in this post. I’m not suggesting conspiracy theories about aliens, however to many people the facts you developed used to comprise a conspiracy theory; now it is an understandable botched up government mess.

            I will stop with that.

            Thanks again for all the work you have done.


            • sundance says:

              Oops. Sorry my mistake – brainfart I thought you were talking about “The Alexandretta” – another ship involved in the entire (Turkey, Libya, Syria) weapons fiasco.


              I’d been debating the Loyds registery of Alexandretta last week because it just showed up again (Nile) full of merchants. I got my wires crossed. Sorry about that.

              Check out the flag


              • Anton says:

                Was it not true that the last person to leave the WH the night of Benghazi was Chuck Schumer? Brennan and Schumer need to have their part in Benghazi exposed.


                • sundance says:

                  5:30pm to 11:59pm (midnight)


                  When questioned about it – Schumer claims he can’t remember why he was there.


                • Anton says:

                  Perhaps he was there as the up to his neck as representative of Lockheed Martin who was moving arms for these traitors illegally in to the Middle East…Lockheed’s man that tripled arms sales in one year –who was to become CEO but like other rats involved…resigned from his position at Lochkeed, where he was on deck to become CEO shortly??? Yet he resigned from his position within an hour of General Petraeus for the identical bogus reason of an affair…..
                  Follow the money with Schumer…the bag man for Soros loves money…as IndyMac proved.

                  And Lochkeed ?? Their insurance was to put their man Cohen in as the new director of the FBI…

                  Eisenhower was right…The Military Industrial Complex is out of control …especially now that the USA has a traitor Sunni Muslim at the helm…a Nazi who has ridden roughshod over his genocide of Christians as he’s turned the ME to Sunni control and armed and trained their henchmen IS…will the history books, if there are indeed books–give him credit for his caliphate? The breath of evil is breath taking–the pedophiles, perverts and demonic players involved shouldn’t ignore Soros who looks to repeat his finest hour–sending Jews to their death…Fairly clear Obama was creating his IS caliphate to kill Christians, and turn Tunisia, Egypt, Libya over to control of the Muslim Brotherhood on his march to surround and destroy Israel. That Qatar was funding the tunnels into Israel for years should inform…all to kill Jews and destroy Israel. First the Sunday people then the Saturday people this time….

                  That Qatar has bought their way into the USA and her corporations should inform. The KSA no longer appreciates their Muslim Brotherhhod –perhaps if things had worked out and they’d taken over the fields in Syria they’d bargained for, and planned on receiving with Qatar…from Obama’s army–perhaps then KSA would still be on board…but no–Obama didn’t deliver Syria as promised –yet.

                  Russia played her part…they were NOT giving up their warm weather nuclear port in Syria..and they didn’t appreciate what Obama did to their man Qadaffi …so like the Don they sent pics of those weapons being run across the ME–they sent a message with their own messengers to Benghazi–where turnabout went into play–and Stevens received the identical treatment as Qadaffi–rape and his member cut off for good measure–Russia didn’t appreciate Obama turning their allies into part of his IS Calihate and they let him know–they know how to play–There were two terrorist groups in play in Benghazi…one delivered Assad and Putin’s message–and the other.? Were they Brennan’s?
                  Understand Dugin-undersatnd Putin. Certainly makes one consider the message Putin was sending to Obama on Election Day as his nuclear subs encroached our waters eh?
                  Nazi vs IslamoNazi…lots to consider.


      • canadacan says:

        That’s my interpretation as well so I guess I understand this now.


    • doodahdaze says:

      He had the money.


  9. waltherppk says:

    IMO the liquidation of Bin Laden “ordered” by “Dear Leader” was done simply as a strategic sacrifice of a pawn “martyr” for islam, and disposal of someone who had outlived their operational usefulness, having value as his “estate” left in death to provide political cover with a propaganda facade about where the loyalties of a de facto muslim islamophile “dear leader” actually reside.
    Liquidation of Bin Laden provided a superficial bona fide that would make it seem like “Dear Leader” was going after the “bad guys” when if fact what was occurring is covert support was being given to the same “bad guys”, and the liquidation of Bin Laden provided a diversion.
    The muslim brotherhood apologist in chief, who is “Dear Leader” is playing a chess match of foreign policy that is actually high treason for aid given to enemies of the republic under any false pretense that can be manufactured and then offered as an excuse for actions made to seem complex, but are much more simply and factually only brazen treason being done covertly. This is not some complicated intellectual puzzle for academic analysis. Arming sworn enemies of the republic like the muslim brotherhood and its affiliate terrorist organization factions has been done under false pretenses offered as lame excuses or reasons that do not really withstand scrutiny. Such malfeasance is a criminal negligence and dereliction of duty that simply does not fall within the scope of legal and legitimate “foreign policy”. When the puzzling aspects of all of these events are lined up like a solved Rubick’s cube, what is exposed is a commander who has acted covertly as an enemy collaborator.

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  10. justfactsplz says:

    Thank you Sundance for tying up the loose ends for me. I have followed the Benghazi attack since your first post on the subject. While it wasn’t illegal, it was poor judgment on Hillary’s part. I don’t even want to think about her becoming our next president. Sundance, you don’t call yourself a journalist but you are beyond a shadow of doubt one of the best investigative reporters I have come across. A big thank you!


    • waltherppk says:

      Just because a treasonous act is done covertly doesn’t make it legal.


      • justfactsplz says:

        No it doesn’t. I have so badly wanted them held accountable for the blood of those who died due to their evil deeds. I now accept they probably never will be. Corruption is running rampant in our whole government. The problem is there doesn’t seem to be enough YOUNG able bodied constitution loving, God fearing patriots around to do what needs to be done. It will take a civil war.


        • waltherppk says:

          The excuse that such covert operations to aid the muslim brotherhood were cleared with “the gang of eight” has a simply elegant prosecutorial answer ……hang all eight plus those that sought their approval. Rope is cheap and trees are plentiful. Supporting the muslim brotherhood is not an ambiguous kind of treason, but is factually equivalent to paying money to murder incorporated and contracting the murder of Christians, Jews, and everybody else on earth that is not muslim brotherhood. It is giving support to terrorists, and every aspect of brigandage that is an identified war crime, every form of indiscriminate pillaging, kidnapping, rape, slave trade, and murder that can be accomplished by such scumbags who claim they are answering their god Satan by performance of “jihad”. IMO there is becoming a blurred distinction for what is a moderate muslim that is about like making the call for what is a moderate Nazi and the rampage of murdering savages all of whom have a satanic blood lust “religion” in common is going to lead to an apocalyptic reckoning where the instruments of Armageddon are going to be used to burn them all. It won’t any longer be a riddle to solve to figure out the difference between a “good” muslim and a “bad” muslim, after it has reached a point of reckoning where it will be kill them all and let God sort them out.


          • justfactsplz says:

            I don’t believe there are moderate muslims. They are all terrorists. I also believe Armageddon if fast approaching. Come Lord Jesus.


            • waltherppk says:

              The “gang of eight” would do well to check the wind with the gang of three hundred million before they do more stupid stuff.


              • rmnewt says:

                Not sure I appreciate the scapegoating of the Gang of 8? That group by law is “notified” and at best may be consulted or asked their opinion based upon their unique expertise. If they disagree Im not sure it matters much. Fact is the responsibility is in the title, its a Presidential finding. In the end the litmus test for covert action is:
                “To the extent possible, they should be conducted only when we are confident that, if they are revealed, the American public would find them sensible.”
                Does anyone really think that supplying an extreme Islamist group w/ manpads and other advanced military hardware is a sensible action?

                Some good references:


                • waltherppk says:

                  The muslim brotherhood is just as bad and even worse than the third reich ever was. So there really is no scapegoating about that litmus test for treason that would be shown by failing to oppose and failing to blow the whistle on any effort to support what is not just an enemy of the state but is also an enemy of humanity for its many crimes against same. The muslim brotherhood is a criminal organization long and well known as fanatical ruthless terrorists and butchers. These people that deal with the devil have made their true allegiance known and have chosen poorly and IMO they are accountable.


                • rmnewt says:

                  The Gang of 8, cant blow the whistle as I read the law. I suspect some may have opposed, but dont know that it mattered w/ this administration.
                  Not sure what was treasonous. Piss poor judgement, questionable action, incompetence, sure. But the world is complex and outcomes uncertain.
                  Criminal abuse of power arresting Nakoula Basseley, sure;
                  Accountability, absolutely need some of that;
                  Lying, unacceptable;
                  Lessons from the loss of our people are the least we should get from all this.

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                • waltherppk says:

                  Sometimes there are problems that are resolvable through debate and litigation, and sometimes there are problems where that is only a distraction from what has to be done.


        • justfactsplz says:

          Proving it was illegal is another thing. I wish they would.


  11. rmnewt says:

    Well done Sundance. Couple points to ponder:
    1st, the general public has no clue so for the record, a hearing is of value. There will no doubt be countless sound bites that will paint a picture for the public. Remember Oliver North with Iran Contra. The left preaches to this day of how that is an example of Reagan’s foreign policy errors and illegal activities. Personally I thought it rather creative and certainly effective, but the left see it very differently.

    2nd, the Gang of 8 knew so the administration is off the hook. Not really. The Gang of 8 will get the plan and foundational facts, maybe. They’ll certainly get a lot of judgments and assumptions. This doesn’t let the administration off the hook for poor judgment, wrong assumptions and the end result. An example, what if they knew they were Al Qaeda affiliates? BTW, the Gang of 8 wouldn’t really be “managing” the covert operation nor do they have policy approval authority. At best they could argue against an action/policy and pressure the administration to alter course.

    3rd, now we have more of the historical view and we now see the result of the Presidential decision and selected course of action. Ole Muammar isn’t looking all that bad? “Flawed policy with political consequences” as you highlight is certainly something the administration would not want to have out before the election. Pretty sound motive for lying. Will there be any long-term consequences, Hillary or others??

    4th, lying to the American public and sound principled policy and action. We all want and hope the US always stands tall among nations for righteousness. When we are not perfect, we need to recognize it and correct it. If we deny and lie, we don’t learn and we lose global support. Is there a lesson in dealing with the devil? Does the Syrian, ISIS crisis have US causal fingerprints? Perhaps “infinite degrees of stupid?”

    5th, what difference does it make, tactically. There are some tactical lessons. Micromanagement of an action by incompetents usually ends in disaster. Not providing the security when requested demands accountability as does not responding once the attack began. As one of the military men said, we run to the sound of battle, not run away.

    6th, Iran-Contra was covert. Why should this not see the light of day? Knock off the closed door sessions and spell it out for the public. It will be a cleansing experience.


    • sundance says:

      I understand your point, and I don’t mean to diminish the value in a public airing. The only issue is there’s really no “there” there – from the prospect of a grand illegal activity to bring down the President etc. etc…..

      Which, unfortunately, like it or not, is what many people have built this thing up into.

      Therefore an “Iran Contra” type arms deal will be met with “what, that’s all”? Type media responses and obfuscations.

      Meanwhile on the other side of the issue you’ll have hours and hours of Democrats laughing and poking fun of conservatives saying “see, there’s nothing there – we’ve been telling you for years – you’re wasting time – your intransience toward Obama is blocking your ability to see and think straight”…. etc… and etc….. and etc….

      See how this will look?


      • rmnewt says:

        yep, if the dems only had principle, if the media were objective, if anyone really cared…. this is how a great nation fails. The ignorant will remain ignorant and evil wins.
        Is there a better way to get the truth out?


      • Everything is a giant manipulation. Every event.That is the hallmark and defining issue of this regime. They know they have PRAVDAMSM on their team and that is their power source to create the many illusions !


  12. Roger says:

    This is just more proof that Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy, Rand Paul, and all the other Republican politicians are working hand in hand with Democrats to keep everything a secret. They’ll talk a big game and rake in that donor money. But actually holding the Obama administration accountable for anything? They do literally nothing.

    Shouldn’t Obama and Clinton be in jail? Shouldn’t many of our top CIA and military leaders be in jail? Shouldn’t someone in the Republicans be calling for treason, impeachment, or some trials?


    • Donald Myers says:

      That hag won’t go to jail, as her partner in crime will most certainly pardon her, when and if he actually leaves office. Think Marshall law. Not just her but all of his crooked cronies as well.


  13. Sam says:

    Great work of investigative journalism. I hope this article gets a large readership. I’ve read it through and still have a question. Maybe I’m particularly dense today since I didn’t sleep well last night. The question is what US geopolitical interest did Hilllary and Panetta propose to advance by deposing Khadafy when he seemed to be keeping the al Qaeda type jihadis at bay? Or was it all about skimming money off the arms trading – which is likely given Hillary’s mysterious ability to turn a large profit on questionable investments. Operations like this are usually awash in cash. Yes, I know six billion dollars are missing from State. Odd that six billion is also the amount of the State – Aegis security contract. Did Khadafy’s plan for a gold standard for oil play a part? I thought the Saudis didn’t care much for his idea.

    Maybe my questions have no immediate answers and will be of interest only to historians at some later date. The whole thing reeks of corruption though.


  14. Rurik says:

    Brief? My patootie! This is anything but brief. It is a masterpiece of investigating and collating by Sundance. Digesting this may take most of a weekend.
    Doing the work Congress (except for Gowdy) won’t do. The American Spectator carried the ball on Slick Willie, then the Swiftees carried the ball on John Kerry. Sundance did the heavy lifting on Trayvon and Zimmerman. And it seems he’s now going to do it again on Benghazi. GO Sundance!

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  15. jakeandcrew says:

    A couple of questions –
    Why was Chris Stevens asking over and over again for more security if he was in on the covert operation? He must have known that they wouldn’t give it to him. His last journal entry was “never-ending security problems”. Why keep asking, unless he had an expectation that something would change?

    I have the same type of question about Woods and Doherty and the other CIA men and women – did they know that if something happened, they were on their own? If so, then why was there an expectation that help would come? Why were they calling for help?

    A couple of comments about each “phase” of the Benghazi attack:

    I just still have a “stone in my shoe” about the whole thing. When you look at the rising danger in Benghazi coupled with the State Dept.’s not just denial of requested security, but further cuts to their security…it seems like he (Stevens) was being set up – a sitting duck.

    There is just no excuse for not sending help when the attack happened. Yes, it had been a covert operation, and something went wrong…so rescue our troops and our people FIRST, and then be a grown-up, a man of character and deal with the fallout. But a President of the US, a Commander in Chief CANNOT put his own political career ahead of saving lives! That’s grounds for impeachment right there, and I think every one of the founding fathers would kick him right out of the White House.

    The scope and depth of the lying afterwards is just too much. They’re still lying! I think it’s absolutely necessary for the select committee to do its thing. I don’t know if impeachment or conviction of any crimes will come of it, but the American people, by and large, do not know this stuff. There are bits and pieces of it here and there, but no one has put it together like you have, Sundance, and the MSM doesn’t want to. My folks have watched NBC news their whole 50+ years of marriage, and they’re not stopping now. So many, many Americans are like that, and if they understood this – things would be different – and Hillary Clinton would NEVER be President of the US.


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    • sundance says:

      Janet, good and righteous questions. And, based on what we know, allow me to attempt my humble explanation(s) and/or answers.

      FIRST – “Why was Chris Stevens asking over and over again for more security if he was in on the covert operation? He must have known that they wouldn’t give it to him. His last journal entry was “never-ending security problems”. Why keep asking, unless he had an expectation that something would change?”

      You must contemplate WHO he was asking for the security ? He was asking the State Department – not, I repeat, NOT, the Pentagon. Stevens was asking his chain of command within the State Department; and as a consequence the CIA internals who were coordinating “contractors” as such to provide security.

      “Why” he was asking is obvious and understandable given the situation he was facing. It’s the “who” he was asking that actually answers your question. These requests were internal to the State Dept and possibly by affiliation the CIA. The CIA would be rue to expose too visible a footprint – the State Dept was simply NOT equipped to add personnel as outlined within the testimony and statements from Secretary HRC herself. Nor were they of the mindset to want a larger exposure for the Benghazi operation. FUBAR.

      SECOND – “I have the same type of question about Woods and Doherty and the other CIA men and women – did they know that if something happened, they were on their own? If so, then why was there an expectation that help would come? Why were they calling for help?”

      Again, these guys were former military contracted by the CIA to carry out the objective – key word “former”. They were firewalled away from the Pentagon and DoD. They were hired by Langley to carry out a CIA mission. Any emergency call would go through the intelligence community which is NOT set up to respond in a visibly public manner.

      They knew this. They knew there was no ability of their team to engage assistance from a military rapid response force. Their only hope was a State Dept crisis team, which unfortunately is affiliated with the DoD (Marines) as trained for Embassy evacuations or similar.

      As DoD commander AFRICOM General Carter Ham stated, there was no “official” state dept presence in Benghazi or Eastern Libya – therefore there was no plan to even consider assistance in Benghazi because it never existed. The only State Dept operation they knew of was in Tripoli where the U.S. embassy was situated, and where they did have an ability to respond.

      When Stevens called for help – it was into this Tripoli State Dept network the call went. But the State dept was in no position to respond to any risk related to the unofficial secret presence in Benghazi.

      In short ALL OF THEM were carrying this operation out outside of the wire, way outside. So far outside that anyone within the military didn’t even know they were out there.

      Absent of Hillary immediately picking up the phone and asking the President to activiate an immediate military emergency response, there was no way for anyone to come and assist them. The military did not even know anything about what was going on.

      This is a point of disconnect for almost everyone who does not understand the structure of what was in place inside Operation Zero Footprint. Most Americans think the military a.) knew of the operation, and b.) could have responded to the operation; neither of which are factually evident. FUBAR


      • rmnewt says:

        Sundance, I wont say you are wrong, but I’d suggest most of these men would expect other Americans to come to their aide as they would to those in need (ie Woods/Doherty). When everything blew up, AFRICOM and the other emer response teams knew what the right response was and it wasnt go to bed and blame the video. The silence of those that are ashamed and unable to criticize is telling.


        • sundance says:

          AFRICOM Commander Gen Carter Ham shared before he was never informed. DoD was cut out of the communications pipeline.


          • rmnewt says:

            Roger that. They were cut out before, during, and after. Either way, they would have needed the President’s approval to move and we know what he was doing. Nothing, in denial, making up a cover story, getting ready to travel to Vegas or all the above?


          • Anton says:

            Sundance, please visit misterchambersdotcom


          • jakeandcrew says:

            So the first person in the U.S. (supposedly) to get news of the attack, didn’t even know there were Americans in Benghazi? And he’s the general in charge of that region…I’ll bet he was pretty upset by that.


      • That in itself makes a case for murder, dereliction and all manner of criminal acts. But as you have pointed out and many already knew , it is all simply covered up by PRAVDA/MSM and that is very deliberate .


      • jakeandcrew says:

        Thank you, Sundance, for those answers…still trying to absorb and understand it all.


      • jakeandcrew says:

        Clarification on General Ham’s knowledge of Benghazi (I just had a light bulb moment). He knew about the State Dept.’s “temporary mission” in Benghazi. What he supposedly didn’t know about was the CIA annex. The Senate Intelligence Report (January, 2015) says:

        “According to U.S. AFRICOM (an email from the office of the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff for Legislative Affairs to SSCI staff, August 15, 2013), neither the command nor its Commander were aware of an annex in Benghazi, Libya. However, it is the Committee’s understanding that other DoD personnel were aware of the Benghazi Annex.”

        Interestingly, the House Armed Services Committee Majority Interim Report (February, 2014) says it a little differently:

        “…DOD reported to the committee that General Ham and some others at AFRICOM did not know the annex existed before the attack on the SMC began.” The note on this says, “This information also notes it is possible other DoD assets in country may have known.'”
        The report continues, “Learning about a second facility in Benghazi amidst an attack may have complicated the military’s process of assessing events and response options, in part because the second location was both an attack target and a U.S. security resource.”

        Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, who testified to the Oversight Committee on Oct. 12, 2012, was the Site Security Team (SST) Commander in Libya from February – August, 2012. This SST unit (consisting of 16 members) was kind of, sort of (I don’t understand all of this) on loan from DOD to the State Dept. – to bolster State Dept.’s security forces. (Something about Title 22 and Title 10 status – I need to look those up.) Their mission was to support and answer to Chief of Mission in Libya, but Wood reported to SOCAFRICA, which is directly under AFRICOM. Wood sent some of his team, and he went personally, several times, to the Benghazi special mission, so the State Dept. mission was known to the military/DOD.

        Not sure how all of this fits into the whole scheme of things…still thinking.



        • chapprg1 says:

          There were reports in the blog0sphere that Gen Ham did initiate airstrikes and was arrested and replaced. Is he presently on active duty?


          • jakeandcrew says:

            I saw those reports, too – and General Ham was asked about them when he testified to the House Armed Services Committee. He said those reports were false.

            However, Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R,UT) traveled with Gen. Ham to Benghazi soon after the attacks, and during that time asked the general some very pertinent questions:

            Chaffetz – Did we have resources in the area?
            Ham – Yes

            Chaffetz – Did we have proximity?
            Ham – Yes

            Chaffetz – Why didn’t we send in some of these resources?
            Ham – We were not requested to do so.


            Unfortunately, when Gen. Ham testified to the Armed Services Committee, his story had changed. He said he had not put certain resources on heightened alert prior to 9/12/2011, because he didn’t think they were the right “tool” for the job. (I don’t understand how he could make that determination before the attack happened.) He answered a question from a former military colleague why he didn’t use air support – at least just fly some F-16’s overhead to intimidate the enemy…he said he didn’t think it would do any good, or he didn’t have those prepared beforehand. (Between the redactions and the general’s sometimes unclear answers, it’s hard to tell.) But, Dr. Beck finally nailed it down a little with this question:

            "So when it comes to whether or not there were strike aircraft available on the actual attack date of September 11th, understanding that you had already made the decision that you didn't think that was the right tool, so nothing was prepositioned or in the heightened state of alert, at the time of the attack, were there any assets available 

            that could have had an impact should the decision have been made to launch?

            The general answered, “No, sir.”

            Rep. Chaffetz, obviously frustrated, questions him again right after that, and after some back and forth says,

            “So how do I rectify all that? I am not out to get you. I want to get to the truth. This is the third time I have met you, and this is the third different story I have heard.”

            So, why did General Ham change his story?


            • jakeandcrew says:

              I don’t know why that box appeared – I’ll retype the question.

              “So when it comes to whether or not there were strike aircraft
              available on the actual attack date of September 11th, understanding
              that you had already made the decision that you didn’t think that was
              the right tool, so nothing was preposi tioned or in the heightened state
              of alert, at the time of the attack, were there any assets available
              that could have had an impact should the decision have been made to

              Also, this is the link to the transcript:


              And finally, General Ham is now retired.


  16. doodahdaze says:

    I wonder what was where in what building. Was there Gold, Cash, Manpads? Was there a big Buy going down or a shipment? This thing reminds me of a drug scam. Buyers, sellers, shippers, same thing except high dollar weapons. The most valuable would be Stingers. To buy them back how were they paying? Who had the goods and who had the $$$$? Was the cash in one place and manpads in another?


  17. ctdar says:

    Sean Smith seemingly was the most naive of the 4.


  18. Anton says:

    Couple of things..

    The day before the Benghazi attack–someone leaked to Marc Theisen at the Wash Post that Obama was not attending his National Security briefs…attending less than 37% of the time???So you have a White House leaker the day before Benghazi gets attacked get full cover PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY for the attack that would happen …and the death that was coming of Chris Stevens…that gives me pause and makes me think it was cover for Obama

    Obama called Netanyahu that night–he was occupied with a phone call to Netanyahu at 2 AM for Netanyahu…when Obama hadn’t spoken by phone to Netanyahu nice 12/09…an hour on the phone, a missing American Ambassador..notes Biden took–a photo op for proof–TOO PAT

    Erdogan supports the Muslim Brotherhood and their Caliphate…I think you extend him too much cover…Egypt has kicked the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt as too dangerous…one doesn’t hear that from Erdogan…The terrorists in the compound were recorded saying “Dr. Morsi sent us”
    Morsi was supposedly a CIA asset..Brennan was also in the WH that night…Brennan the Muslim yet no mention of him..Obama doesn’t breath without Brennan

    Obama sold 11Billion in weapons to QATAR…best you figure Qatar into your possible scenario…QATAR, home of the Muslim Brotherhood and AlQaeda…Qatar who has bought this president and largely funded the Clinton Initiative

    Keeping Petraeus quiet? Check Washinton Wisphers….where they threaten to drop a dime on him and his affair should he talk…Morrell was calling the shots–not Petraeus.

    Consider Stevens met with Mike Rogers and his intel Committee –off the books
    Consider Stevens met with Senator Inhoef
    Consider Stevens was all in until WMD was in the table..Did Dirty Bombs go missing from Benghazi as some say?
    Consider Mike Rogers wife Kristy was CEO of Aegis that supplied the off shoot of AlQaeda as the subpar security for Stevens.


    • sundance says:

      How am I providing Erdogan cover ? Did you read the entire brief ?

      The Netanyahu call was essential considering his UN redline speech (Acme Bomb). and the obvious WH brush off from that visit. Election year politics.


      • Anton says:

        First, thank you for an excellent piece of reporting. The first that has properly laid out the known facts of Benghazi.

        Erdogan as a backer of the Muslim Spring and a part of the operation to arm AlQaeda and a close friend to Obama is complicit with Obama and Qatar in turning the Middle East over to control of the Muslim Brotherhood in their quest to surround and destroy Israel. Consider that Stevens although CIA and dealing weapons wasn’t interested in where the administration was heading which was/is to WWIII. Perhaps in talking to Mike Rogers and Senator Inhoef, Stevens became a liability. Could be that Erdogan sent a visitor for confirmation of Stevens whereabouts….as Stevens was to be eliminated as he had become a liability. That Stinger missiles were being disseminated, against our NATO treaties brought more complications.

        Hearings are a necessity. The American people must be apprised of the corruption in the Obama administration. They must be apprised of the antisemitism and the influence of Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood on this administration and in particular this White House. Qatar is buying very lobbyist, and many of our politicians. Qatar is buying its way into the USA via positioning in our corporations and every sphere of influence. The only way to stop this is through exposure. Hearings are an import and necessary avenue to regain our country.


        • sundance says:

          Thanks for the kind words. There is NO DOUBT Erdogan and Obama are quintessentially similar ideologues. They are brothers from another mother. I have well documented this relationship especially in the G-20 group where they are often prone to take off by themselves.

          Erdogan is also a notorious member of the global Muslim Brotherhood – and yes, he would have, and does have, a very strong propensity to support rapid islamists and religious zealots within Islam.

          when it came to Qaddaffi Erdogan had an alternative perspective because he knew as much as Quackdaffy was a rabid racist and resolute fascist – Quackdaffy was also the gatekeeper for the African immigration to the EU. Erdogan, for a bunch of egocentric reasons, respected the crazy Quackdaffy and overlooked the anti-religious slant daffy carried. (In mafioso terms Daffy was a “made man” and should have been untouchable by the old school leadership in MB) Daffy drove the EU and West crazy – Erdogan liked that.

          Erdogan knew that a Libya without Daffy’s strong hand was a destabilizing concern for OPEC. Erdogan knew what would happen within Libya without Daffy. Erdogan also did not like the fact that Libya was taking the rebellion favor away from the overthrow of his real nemesis Assad. Erdogan’s ideology meant he wanted both Assad and the King of Jordan removed and replaced with less westernized regional ideologues.

          Obama was/is essentially cool with that. We saw that play out with Morsi….

          Bottom line however, is the weapon flow was OOC (out of control) and it was beginning to unravel. As documented reporters were on the trail of administration leaks and in August the secret U.S. operations were at risk of discovery. It was an election year and you must evaluate the risk of an October surprise to Obama’s re-election.

          Do I think Turkey was PO’d that Stevens was prolly shutting down the U.S. end of the scheme. YES. Do I think Turkey had a motive to sit on their hands if the ISIS crew or Islamic Fighting group attacked Benghazi? Again, yes.

          However, I’m not ready to make the jump to Turkey actually ordering the hit. I think that part was more of a local issue….. Stevens was outside the wire – I’m sure he talked to people like Rogers about his fears and concerns….. Everyone had a safe escape and plausible deniability. Stevens was the tip of the spear and held no exit card.

          Once he got on the bus, he couldn’t get off until the ride was over. He was going to have to finish shutting it down.

          Again, just my humble opinion. Motive is too difficult to nail down.


  19. Anton says:

    The man is president…He is not the accidental make excuses as though he didn’t know of this massacre because he is a stupid black man IS RACIST…of course he knew—“bring back our girls” how many months ago…He knew- they knew..he armed IS. He trained ZiS, he armed Boko Harem

    Did you know that NATO contracts with Taliban heroin smugglers for logistics in Afghanistan?
    Did you know that the Obama administration’s two closest allies are (Muslim Brotherhood and Arab Spring sponsors) Qatar and Turkey?
    Did you know that the United States has backed the Arab Spring from the beginning, and the goal was always a Caliphate?
    Did you know that IS[IS] exists only because of American funding and support? One of those S’s does stand for Syria, after all. And Obama openly supports the Syrian rebels.
    Did you realize that the Obama administration has created a genocidal, jihadi army that is murdering Christians and any Muslims who oppose their rule?
    Did you ever consider that that IS[IS], which was created by Obama’s support of the “moderate” Syrian rebels, has destroyed the once stable Iraq that Obama inherited?
    Did you know that Bowe Bergdahl was released only after Qatar had Obama free not 5, but 10 Taliban prisoners?
    Did you know this prisoner exchange occurred right after Obama met with the former Emir of Qatar at West Point, this May? Did you know that the Emir’s son just graduated from West Point?
    Did you know that not only has the Obama administration purged high ranking military officers, but also the ranks of the NCOs?
    Did you know that it was Qatar who provided funding for both the 1993 World Trade Center attacks and 9/11?
    Did you know that Khalid Sheikh Mohamed was on Qatari payroll, and his nephew was Ramzi Yousef, the 1993 bomber?
    Did you know the funding for global jihad is primarily funded by slavery, cocaine, and heroin smuggling?
    Did you know that the jihad works with South American cartels, who are now flooding over our southern border?
    Did you know that according to FBI records, Al Gore’s father, Senator Al Gore Sr., was employed by a notorious agent of the Soviet Union?
    Did you know that Al Gore both purchased and sold (for $100 million) CurrentTV from Qatari interests, and that the sale gave Al Jazeera America broadcasting rights in America?
    Did you know that Al Gore, who took that $100 million from Qatar when he sold CurrentTV, has a “bat phone” to the White House?
    Did you know that not only are major universities like Carnegie Mellon and Georgetown in Doha, Qatar, but also American companies like military contractor Boeing and Exxon Mobil?
    Did you know any of that? And do these facts, all reported in credible publications, strike you as a little more important and damaging to the administration than rainbow flags flying over embassies? It’s the kind of information that, in a day and age saturated by social minutiae posing as news headlines, would have an actual impact if reported by the mainstream press to the American public.

    Why then, the silence? The American people would revolt if they learned the truth: that we’re again a colony, taking policy orders not from King George, but from Qatar… a state sponsor of Islamic terrorism.


  20. Anton says:

    The Seals reported there were two separate operations..One to collect arms…and Brennan’s to arm AlQaeda…thus they’re were working at Cross Purposes

    Wonder why did we hear Stevens was cremated in Libya…only to then hear his body was loaded on the flight to Germany…Great detail was reported telling of tipping the gurney getting Steven body on the plane to Germany…Why did Germany cremate his body”Congressman Frank Wolf tells a different story


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  22. John Denney says:

    Most impressive.


    • sundance says:

      Hi Andrea, unfortunately I don’t think many on our team will be willing to accept the “simple truth”.

      When it comes to Benghazi everyone on the right side of the spectrum has built this up to be some massive and grand scale conspiracy. While it is definitely a horrid operation, based on seriously flawed policy, I don’t think it’s all that complex to understand.

      It’s damaging to Hillary and Obama because it reflects their inept nature, but the larger issues are not within the Benghazi story itself. The more damaging issues are within all the players who are no longer around or leaving.

      Mike Morrel gone.
      Mike Rogers leaving.
      Petraeus gone.
      General Ham gone. etc.

      The interesting story has become how things shook out AFTER the Benghazi attack. The circumstances around the attack itself, and he events that led up to the attack, are all clear now.


      • Anton says:

        Mike Morrell lied, Mike Rogers hid information…Is this not a coverup? These traitors need to pay for their crimes against this country….And Obama needs to be outed.

        Love to see you write more on Qatar, Al Qaeda and IS being gay and using that as a recruitment tool…No wonder Iran is 15% gay…Hitlers elite were sadistic homosexuals too


  23. jakeandcrew says:

    I think the hearings are needed because:
    · Gowdy has promised it will be about finding the truth, not a political circus, and I believe him. Even within the constraints of not revealing classified information, a lot can be revealed that has not been widely known. Just sifting the facts from all the double-talk and lies will be eye-opening.
    · Gowdy has new witnesses that have never testified about Benghazi, and they need to be heard.
    · Most importantly, the hearings are necessary because evil must be exposed by the light. Whatever the consequences, shine the light on it, and watch the cockroaches scatter…and maybe stomp a few before they get away.


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  25. Just found this courtesy of a PAN member.
    GRRRR…. Re: the video w/Hillary – at 5:11 the inset picture: Up to 900 METRIC TONS [=1,000 kilograms /2,205 pounds] of raw Uranium yellowcake at the time of the Qaddifi regimes collapse is now in the hands of these terrorists?


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  27. Donald Myers says:

    This makes me think a lot of the whole Oliver North saga.


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