“I Do Take Offense At Being Called A Crap Bag”…Thomas Lifson to Dana Loesch

H/T …Sam

Sit down and have a listen to 16 min. of the “liveliest” radio you’re going to hear all week.  I promise…..

Part 2 …below the fold.    

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137 Responses to “I Do Take Offense At Being Called A Crap Bag”…Thomas Lifson to Dana Loesch

  1. stella says:

    I didn’t like much before. Now I don’t like her at all.

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  2. nyetneetot says:

    Really? Someone was classy enough to that on air? I haven’t listened to it myself, and after stella’s comment I’m not sure I want to.

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    • Ad rem says:

      Go ahead and listen. IMO Lifson exposes her for the “hysterical” loud-mouthed enabler she is.

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      • nyetneetot says:

        It might be a couple of hours, but I will. I’ve never had a great first impression of her either, but I don’t listen to her or know her personally.

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      • stella says:

        I agree with Ad rem. Listen to it. I listened at her website, then left a couple of comments. They weren’t supportive.

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      • nyetneetot says:

        I started the second video, but was unable to finish it at the time. Reading the comments here has me thinking I really missed out on something. 🙂
        Her statements in the first part are just the garbage argument style the left uses, but since she’s been educated in journalism that is no great surprise. I don’t care for it personally.

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        • Ad rem says:

          You’re apparently not alone nyetneetot. The second video has roughly half the views the first one does. I believe this incident will prove to have done irreparable damage vis a vis her conservative creds. We’ve been kicked in the face too many times by smooth-talking phoney conservatives….and we will not forget.

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  3. Melissa says:

    I agree with every word of the American Thinker article.
    This is one of my favorite blogs, really good stuff here everyday, keep up the good work!

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  4. sundance says:

    OK, I was irked by this all day, but now after reading the comments at Beck’s own site, not so much:

    The duo of Loesch and Beck are being skewered. 😀

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/07/21/they-are-missing-the-entire-point-dana-loesch-rips-critics-of-mercury-one-relief-efforts/

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    • texan59 says:

      It’s all well and good to do good things. However, people who operate at this level need to take a step back every once in a while and take a look at the “optics” of such actions. When one believes that each and every thing they do is noble and just, that is usually about the time they step in it. As Beck & Co. have done just now. They have ranted and railed against the evils of big gubmint and the rent-seekers like BCFS. IMHO, it does not make them any better, when they “appear” to be hypocritical. As for Beck’s moral equivalence with the dear sister, I would ask him to look at a couple other situations with the Church. They have been all in for illegal immigration under the guise of compassion, much like they were all for obamacare……until it bit them in the backside. Then they holler for help. Compassion is wonderful…….until it meets up with reality. The other example that comes to mind is the individual efforts of Sister Prejean who wrote “Dead Man Walking”. I don’t remember all the details but, IIRC, the guy was guilty as sin. While this was an individual effort by one nun, it tells me that just because one feels THEIR cause is right and just, it doesn’t make it so.
      For all my friends in the Catholic Church, this is not meant as an attack on the Church. There are many other denominations who believe as they do.

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      • Cetera says:

        No offense taken. I’m a Catholic. Most Catholics are either completely lackadaisicalin their faith, or are completely smitten with the emotions they feel about being Catholic, and there is very little sense left in most congregations. There are still a number of us who reason with the intellect God gave us, but we’re becoming fewer every year.

        IMO, at some point in the near future, there will be a schism of the Catholic church here in the U.S., and most will break away from Rome and become a separate entity. The plague of “social justice,” and oxymoron if there ever was one, has deeply invaded the church.

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        • joanfoster says:

          There were many conservative Catholics very concerned with the election of Pope Francis because of his Argentinian background and his continuous message of “social justice” and causes of the poor without addressing economic growth and prosperity goals to make his message a reality. Many of the priest coming out of South America today are socialist leaning all in the name of “good works”.

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      • Menagerie says:

        Plenty of Catholics are finding themselves at a turning point with the leaders of our Church. For many of us conservatives, it is now time to get vocal with our bishops, instead of being quietly fed up with the “social justice” emphasis from priests, nuns, and lay people who have no theological or moral depth. Our diocese is launching a major fund raising initiative this fall. I won’t be contributing, but I will be telling the bishop why. All my money will be going to my parish only.

        The Church may be getting big government handouts, but the organizations like Catholic Charities were built with our money.

        Also, there are, unfortunately, a huge number of nuns who have gone batsh!t crazy from too much Koolaid.

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        • Before you give to your local parish, make sure the bishop or archbishop does not have complete control over your local funds. This happened a few years ago in the diocese that was my parish (I’m no longer Catholic, but still love the people). It was around the time an abused person had won a huge monetary award from the diocese. Several members of our congregation went directly to the bishop to try to stop the takeover, but he refused to budge. Their biggest worry was the school, so, some of the less cowed parishioners found a way to have a huge fundraiser and keep the funds separate for the school. So, be careful and make inquiries, if you haven’t already, before you contribute.

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    • michellc says:

      He lost his shine with his readers/listeners after his Bundy episode. I think they stay around now out of habit and to get under his skin.lol

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      • P.Spinach says:

        Bundy didn’t pay taxes to the feds. BRAVO!

        Seeing the fed payouts to fund the illegals today, Bundy is probably the ONLY happy man in Texas today, having stood up to government. Beck, JERK EXTRAORDINAIRE, cackled about how wrong Bundy was to NOT PAY HIS TAXES, L.O.L.

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    • Cetera says:

      Thanks for the link, Sundance. I’ve tried to give them a bit what-for.

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    • Dixie Darling says:

      I just spent more than an hour reading all the comments following the glenn beck link above. It took Stella and Cetera several attempts to try to educate those commenters on the site who were defending the charities and were totally unaware of what is really going on. Although both Stella and Cetera did a great job of educating the ignorant, I am more convinced than ever that “a liberal convinced against his will, will be a liberal still.” They are so convinced that they are right, it is almost as though they have a block for a brain. Cetera, I’m trying to love my neighbor, but it’s hard sometimes.

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      • Ad rem says:

        Same here…..and my eyeballs are swirling inside my skull! Commenter “Elena” was doing her best to be Dana & Beck’s pinata-for-a-day. However, her sanctimonious efforts at deflection did little to hold back the hoards of peeps in disagreement.

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        • Dixie Darling says:

          Did you believe her when she said she didn’t work for them?

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        • stella says:

          She finally accepted and acknowledged that BCFS is a part of Texas Baptists and that her Catholic charity probably is also getting Fed money. They she said that she didn’t care where the money came from as long as the “children” were fed – or something like that.

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          • Dixie Darling says:

            I must not have read far enough to get to that part. I know she was one hard headed broad. I was so glad you and Cetera were posting because I tried to log in several times unsuccessfully but couldn’t remember my password. It’s just as well because you two did a much better job than I could have. So thanks for representing the “right” side with some real facts for those people.

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            • stella says:

              That comment was pretty late in the conversation. She went all out on a limb telling me that BCFS isn’t affiliated with the Baptists and hasn’t been for years – until I dropped a link showing that they ARE affiliated with the Texas Baptists. She had to admit it. Ditto with the Catholic charity. She said that they didn’t get Federal money, and I asked her to prove it.

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          • Ad rem says:

            Yeah…..she argued tooth and nail about the Fed monies, then when you finally had her pinned against the wall with actual government data (i.e. FACTS), she replies….

            “Frankly, my dear, I don’t care about their funding. I care about people who need immediate assistance. […] If religious charities are lying, let God deal with their hypocrisy. He has the ultimate stick.”

            She might as well be a Taqiyya-spewing Moose-limb….

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      • Cetera says:

        “Cetera, I’m trying to love my neighbor, but it’s hard sometimes.”

        Dixie, it is really, really tough. I struggle with it all the time. I’m opinionated, hard-headed, stubborn, and even a little intelligent. It makes for a hell of a soup that is prone to being a bit bitter, and definitely not all that warm for sharing.

        I was reminded of the parable of the weeds amid the wheat this weekend, in Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43:

        He proposed another parable to them. “The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a man who sowed good seed in his field. While everyone was asleep his enemy came and sowed weeds* all through the wheat, and then went off. When the crop grew and bore fruit, the weeds appeared as well. The slaves of the householder came to him and said, ‘Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? Where have the weeds come from?’
        He answered, ‘An enemy has done this.’ His slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ He replied, ‘No, if you pull up the weeds you might uproot the wheat along with them. Let them grow together until harvest;* then at harvest time I will say to the harvesters, “First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles for burning; but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”

        Then, dismissing the crowds, he went into the house. His disciples approached him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

        He said in reply, “He who sows good seed is the Son of Man, the field is the world, the good seed the children of the kingdom. The weeds are the children of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

        Just as weeds are collected and burned [up] with fire, so will it be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will collect out of his kingdom* all who cause others to sin and all evildoers. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears ought to hear.

        We are the wheat. We are surrounded by weeds. We have to take the world as it is. We cannot fix everything, we cannot save everyone, and we cannot recreate Heaven here on earth.

        Instead, what we must do is tend to the other wheat. Support each other. Be good to each other. Look out for each other. Bloom where you are planted, and prepare your fruit for harvest, no matter who your neighbors are. If you can’t see any other wheat around you, grow taller. They are there, even if you cannot see them, and they too are trying to reach for the sun. Do all in your power to help them, for they are surrounded even as you are, and they also feel alone, isolated, and hating their neighbors.

        We don’t know when the harvest will come, but we do know that it will arrive. Let the weeds busy themselves as they may. We cannot stop them, and we cannot convince them. It is not our task to do so.

        Let the Master do the gardening, and take care of the weeds. He is prone to miracles every now and again, and perhaps one day we will find some particularly noxious weeds have been transformed into wheat. Pray for that. If you can find yourself praying for your enemies, not for your sake, but for theirs and His, then you love them just fine. Love is an act of the will. It is not an emotion. You must choose to love someone.

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        • Cetera says:

          By the way, is there any way to make italics, bold, block quotes, etc, in this WordPress comments system?

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          • Sharon says:

            stella and Puddy might be able to explain it – I think there is…..

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          • Ad rem says:

            Okay….I made a screencap for future reference.

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          • stella says:

            To make bold put a b inside of less than and greater than signs in front of the text to be bolded, then a /b inside of the same symbols at the end of the text to be bolded. For italics, use em and /em instead of b and /b. For block quotes, it’s blockquote and /blockquote inside of the less than/greater than signs.

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        • Wow! Thank you. That was beautiful. I hope you don’t mind that I capture it and keep it on my computer to read every day. My heart feels lighter and I actually felt relief from the pressure while I was reading it. I will leave it in the hands of the Lord.

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    • carterzest says:

      WOW, just made it through all of those comments, LOL.
      Great Job StellaP and Cetera…WOW, that Elena is sure clueless. Brad Donald needs to get an invite over here, I like him a lot! This helped pass 1/2 of my day 😀

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  5. radiopatriot says:

    Interesting that Twitter aggregator Twitchy, which adores Dana (cause her tweets are just SO cool) and features her oh-so-cool tweets almost every day, hasn’t made any mention whatsoever of the angry volleys on Twitter from Dana v. Thomas Lifson re: an unflattering piece about her on American Thinker.

    The Twitter battle was so hot and heavy, I got a phone call from another journalist asking if I had seen it. Breitbart picked it up. The conservative Internet is abuzz with it. She must be in her glory! All that attention!

    So why nothing from the aggregator team at Twitchy where it’s “Dana Day” every day? Dana untouchable when it’s less than flattering? Just asking…

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    • sundance says:

      Judging from the comments (last week and this) I definitely think Loesch and Beck are talking out of fear. Notice they are only talking to their audience through each other.

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    • taqiyyologist says:

      Who was Twitchy made by?

      Oh, that’s right…. Michelle Malkin.

      It’s not funny how many of the early Conservative Superstars have gone down the easy road for fame and elbow-rubbing cocktail parties. I wonder where Jim Hoft is on any of this? I don’t know… I’m seriously wondering.

      Malkin never commented much on her own blog, if at all. She is ABOVE those people, those riff-raff in the comment sections. She would probably say “too busy”, but she means “too busy hobnobbing with the elitists” to bother with the likes of her “fans”.

      SD, keep it up. You rock.

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      • stella says:

        It’s kind of unusual (though not unknown) for blog owners to comment on the threads.

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        • lineman says:

          Really most all blogs I read the owners comment on.. Maybe I’m reading those who actually care about the like minded souls who read there blogs…Like this one;)

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    • sundance says:

      Ouch, ouch….. Sunlight HURTS. Dana Loesch has blocked us. 😀 😀 😀

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      • lineman says:

        WTF is wrong with her…Is she evil, petty, naive, or what…By doing that she alienates’ people that would of stood back by her side when she admits she was wrong about this…We all make mistakes since we are not perfect but sensible people don’t compound their mistakes by pissing on those who try and shed the light on where they strayed…Good God Almighty she’s lost it…

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    • I’m a big Twitchy fan but this isn’t the first time they’ve ignored a Twitter fight by two people supposedly on the same side. A while back Brad Thor and Tammy Bruce got into it and being the helpful soul I am I tried to tip Twitchy off to it, since they do feature both of them from time to time. I thought their disagreement was interesting and would have sparked a good discussion. Twitchy wouldn’t touch it, not sure why.

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  6. Yakmaster says:

    She is so defensive and angry that she refuses to listen to Thomas Lifson. He is correct when he says Loesch is niave not to realize what effect pictures of her and others handing out goodies will have on those seeing them in South and Central America. Those images say, quite powerfully, “Welcome. So glad you’re here. We’ll treat you as honored guests, not lawbreakers.”
    Loesch needs to stop mixing her message to her audience also. From one side of her mouth she says she participated in the charity drive because it’s scripturally sanctioned. Out of the other side she says the reason is political— so government taxpayers won’t have to unfairly foot the whole bill, even though the govt. has and will continue to spend hundreds of millions for an untold number of years.
    She can’t have it both ways, sending dual messages to illegals: Come AND Go Away.

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    • dws says:

      I think Lifson could have done a better job but Loesch is skilled at talking over her guest and misdirecting the conversation anytime it comes too close to pinning her down. The best part was the end when he told her the problem was how she did this publicly and asked her what she thought the message to those in Central America would be when they saw the photos. If he would have started with that she would have had a hard time running from it for 16m IMO. She was stuck because her foolishness was brought into the spotlight.

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    • lineman says:

      That’s what I told someone over at AT is that you can’t put up a bird feeder and expect that the birds will only eat once and never come back…Foolishness…

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  7. Cetera says:

    Charity is never detrimental to society, and charity is always voluntary. The point of charity is to take care of the least of those among us, and to recognize in the other the divine spark, the child of God, who is loved by God every bit as much as the giver is. If you can do that, you will grow in love, and in favor with God, as you make an act of will to love another as God loves them.

    This border stunt isn’t charity. It is detrimental to our society, our country, and these individuals. It isn’t to help care for the least of us. It is to legitimize a manufactured crisis to move the Overton Window, something Glenn professes to understand.

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  8. LHLaredo says:

    I guess I just as naive as she’s is, but what exactly is smaller government?
    Less border patrol vs more border patrol?
    Less government control over what we do and put with our body or more government control over what we do and put with our body?
    What is government anyway, tax and fines only or system of worship that fines no fault upon itself?

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  9. Sam says:

    I liked the Treehouse’s comment in response to the article at AT. Heh. Agree all the way with you, Wolverine.

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    • Ad rem says:

      WOLVERINES!
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      ….and thanks again for the linkage. 😀

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      • lineman says:

        I am amazed at the amount of stupidity out there…Is no one sensible anymore…Half or more things would not get said on the internet if that person had to say them f2f…I’m tired of spineless gutless people who love to talk $#!t but can’t back it up…This is about a conversation I’m having over at AT so no one gets confused…Thanks Sundance or whoever is commenting over there with me….

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      • justfactsplz says:

        I love the picture of the wolverine. Every time you guys post it I stare awhile and bow up with pride. We are fearless, Wolverines!

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  10. labrat says:

    I have to admit, I’ve never heard of this woman before. Insufferable, I couldn’t get through that clip. I had to stop. I wasn’t impressed with Lifson either. He let her lead the narrative. It was all about how she took the article as a personal affront and totally missed the larger picture. I would have shredded her tripe about how their lame attempt at charity made any dent in government assistance to these people. $250/per day/per child.

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  11. William says:

    prima donna

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  12. michellc says:

    She didn’t want to have a conversation, she was in pure prog mode, attack, lie and not let the other person speak.
    I will just say what I always say, they can’t help but reveal themselves and I actually appreciate them being so kind to do so. Half the battle is identifying your enemies and by the time the SHTF we shouldn’t have to worry about the traitors who have already been so kind to reveal themselves.

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  13. Guest says:

    Comments have been disabled by Dana on her youtube site for this video. I think that says it all. She can’t stand the heat.

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    • stella says:

      The YouTube links belong to Ad rem, not Dana Loesch. She never enables comments (Ad rem). Neither do I when I publish a video of mine here.

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  14. Last week, G.B. said on air something to the effect that the libs and progs would be dumbfounded when they saw how kind G.B. and crew were. He also said they wouldn’t be able to call them mean and that they would be, finally, silenced.
    I thought as I heard that, “In your dreams, Glenn, in your dreams! Not gonna happen!”

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  15. czarowniczy says:

    OK, I’m game – what kind of a bag would she like to be known as?

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  16. Totally Domestic says:

    I agree with every statement in the American Thinker article. Dana is a shrill bully. She & her boss Glenn Beck were absolutely “blessing” lawlessness. They should have been leading the charge against illegal immigration not blessing it.

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  17. texan59 says:

    Hey Dana!

    Big Girl Panties photo biggirlpanties.jpg

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  18. Lucille says:

    It’s been a number of weeks since I discovered your website and have sent your articles far and wide re the illegal immigration planned crisis. Thanks for all your research. Much appreciated.

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  19. P.Spinach says:

    The photos of UACs at Glenn Beck’s Mercury project were hispanic toddlers ACCOMPANIED with mom and dad. They ALL looked well fed, well dressed, and parents were chubby too. The scene resembled a Country Fair, families heading out with stuffed animals won from a stall, hands sticky from cotton candy. The biggest kids were Glenn Beck and Dana Loesch. Wheeeee! Let’s broadcast these photos back home and tell everyone what a wonderful life these Americans live. Where’s the white mom and dad working two part-time jobs to buy their own children a little extra ice cream each week out of their own pay, and a photo of the fat check they pay out to the government for taxes?

    It’s time to stop the propaganda about children too. I was at a mini-mall the other day, and there were 3 boisterous boys aged maybe 9 to 11 in a store playing with shopping carts. One told me I wasn’t allowed to push the cart outside to carry my bulky purchases to the car. Another looked people right in the eye as if to challenge them. It was very unnerving. Children are not necessarily angels. It’s time to stop this reflex knee-jerk reaction when it comes to children. Israelis killed 3 Palestinian children………who would have grown up to kill three Israeli children and more. It’s time to tell these EMO jerks like Dana and Glenn to stuff it with their self righteous proselytizing. They don’t own the Christian faith. They are not the chosen spokesperson.

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    • stella says:

      Read this:

      http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/the_brutal_obama_policy_thats_really_driving_the_border_crisis.html

      Issued in August of 2013, the policy is called the “Family Interest Directive,” and it essentially forbids Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents from deporting, arresting or even detaining any illegal immigrant who is the caretaker of a child. That includes parents, legal guardians and even unrelated adults who merely claim they care for the child in question. The theory behind the directive is that it would be morally wrong to separate children from their “caretakers.”

      Author says adults are “renting” children to gain protection at the border, often abandoning them once they have gained admittance.

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    • tappin52 says:

      I saw the exact same thing you did with regard to the chubby aliens grabbing their “free stuff”. While I understand the philosophy behind Glenn Beck’s move, I have been completely repulsed by his attitude of moral superiority and condescension toward anyone who disagrees with his tactics. I was a big supporter previously.

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  20. julio says:

    For the love of!…what an insufferable and annoying woman! I thought I liked and respected her but she is completely rude and unprofessional. She is so defensive and hysterical that she makes a complete ass of herself. I couldn’t take her constant interruptions and non-sequiters that were driving me nuts and had to stop the audio! She sounded frightened and her arguments were convoluted and baseless. What a pitiful performance by Loesch!

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  21. justfactsplz says:

    Listening to those two tapes was quite painful. Dana is so full of herself. All I could think as I listened was she was a stupid, rude, and arrogant prog. Someone more inept at debate than Lifson would have really torn her talking points to shreds. The fact that she is blocking to keep from hearing more negative talk about her says a lot about her as a person.

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  22. A Curtin says:

    Hey,let the man finish.You are rude,nasty,and unpleasant

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  23. Glenn Beck…the second “prophet” of the Mormon religion? Hard to tell anymore where his “chalkboard and tears” will lead. Daily he challenges my opinion of him. His latest effort just may be enough to end my “love hate” affair with his ego. Dana should have given more thought to her integrity than to her paycheck before teaming with the “tearful one”. Thank GOD for the Treehouse and the sanity that exists here….. Sundance, ever thought about a radio show?

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  24. Strange says:

    “Small government” Dana’s husband, Chris, benefitted from government programs in order to build his St. Louis multi-media studio.

    http://shockcitystudios.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/2200-gravois-ave-saint-louis-mo-63104-home-of-chris-loeschs-shock-city-studio/

    $4.4 million in federal and state Cheese for Mr. Loesch’s 2200 Gravois Ave Saint Louis, MO 63104 (Home of Chris Loesch’s Shock City Studio)

    In addition to this, the Loesches were accused of using the studio for a pay-for-play scheme that involved a GOP political candidate running in a primary currying favor on Dana’s show after he wrote a $2500 check to Shock City. http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2010/07/dana_loesch_husband_calls_2500_from_ed_martin_non_story.php

    The opponent Dana apparently snubbed was the TEA party guy. Strange.
    I post this in light of Dana’s pompous lecture about “professionalism.”
    It’s not very professional to have only one candidate on your show during a primary and it’s the only guy who is a customer at your husband’s studio.
    In fact, it’s kinda illegal.

    http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2010/07/payment_of_2500_at_center_of_latest_dana_loesch_pissing_match.php

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  25. casparweinburger says:

    Who wouldn’t be offended by being called a crap bag?

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