The Aftermath Of The Zimmerman Persecution Continues – Ben Kruidbos Lawsuit Against Angela Corey and Her Responses (Updated pdf Court Filings Attached)

This expose’ goes deep in the woods on the Zimmerman case back- story of malicious prosecution.

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However, in order to understand what’s going on, as well as what’s at stake, here is a not-so-brief summary and then full outline.

Tray thumb 1Summary: During the pre-trial events leading up to the State of Florida v. George Zimmerman an intentional manipulation of evidence was discovered.

In essence Trayvon Martin’s cell phone contained information which was not given to the defense team, a clear Brady violation surrounding the rules of open trial discovery. Some of the data on the phone was very damaging to the false presentation of Trayvon Martin’s background.

The data included text conversations between Trayvon and his Dad, Tracy (aka “Fruit”), about buying guns. Some data included pictures of Trayvon Martin smoking marijuana and posing with handguns.

There were many pictures on the phone which the State of Florida did not want the defense team to know, and, more importantly for their claims, they did not want to public to witness.  All of the data was in opposition to the narrative of the State and the Martin family, around Trayvon; and much of it was viewed by them as a risk. Consequently the State of Florida wanted the information hidden from the defense.

However, a man named Ben Kruidbos (pronounced “cried-boss”) was in charge of Information Technology within the State Attorney’s office. He became aware of the State attorney, Angela Corey, and her prosecutors (pictured below), intentionally keeping the information from the defense team during pre-trial discovery. Fearful for his own position if he did nothing Kruidbos retained outside advice and representation from a former legal colleague, Wes White.

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Eventually, through a series of tenuous 3rd party contacts with the defense team, the issue of the State intentionally hiding information came to the court and trial Judge, Debra Nelson.

However, Nelson did not want to deal with the Brady violation and possible judicial sanctions for the behavior before the trial. Nelson wanted the trial to begin quickly.

So Nelson delayed any sanctions hearing until after trial. That post-trial hearing has still not taken place.

As a result of Ben Kruidbos revealing the information the FL State 4th District Attorney, Angela Corey, fired him on the last day of trial – just before closing arguments. Subsequently Kruidbos filed a lawsuit for wrongful termination. That lawsuit is soon to be heard in court. Below is the amended complaint, filed by Kruidbos against Angela Corey, and her latest response.

*It is worth noting in the Corey response she is claiming the information on the Trayvon Martin cell phone was not, according to her, discovery evidence she was required to turn over.

Corey is claiming the pictures and cell phone data were attorney “work product“, and therefore she was under no obligation to divulge it – consequently she is claiming the data is not Brady material. Even a first year law student would admit this “claim” will not pass muster in a sanctions hearing. The state cannot selectively hide information pre-trial just because parts of it would negatively impact their position, the defendant has every right to see all of the evidence in the case – especially evidence which *might* be used in his defense.

First, here is the updated complaint by Kruidbos:

Now here is the full backstory:

Another intended victim to cover the fraud in the backstory of the Zimmerman Trial.

Ben Kruidbos, an IT worker from the state attorney's office, testifies during a hearing in the George Zimmerman case in Sanford on June 6.  Associated PressJacksonville FL 2012 – State Attorney Angela Corey fired her office’s information technology director Friday after he testified last month about being concerned prosecutors did not turn over information to George Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

On the same day attorneys finished their closing arguments in that nationally watched trial, a state attorney investigator went to Ben Kruidbos’ home about 7:30 a.m. to hand-deliver a letter stating Kruidbos “can never again be trusted to step foot in this office.”

The letter contended Kruibos did a poor job overseeing the information technology department, violated public records law for retaining documents, and noted he was questioned in March when the office was trying to determine who had leaked personnel information obtained through a computer breach.

In an interview Friday, Kruidbos denied the allegations in the letter, which was written by Cheryl Peek, the managing director of the State Attorney’s Office.

He said he had acted in good faith about “genuine concerns.” He said he had been proud to work at the State Attorney’s Office and feared the letter would cripple his chances at finding another job to support his family, including a 4-month-old son.

“I don’t have any regrets,” he said, “but I am terrified about the future and what that will end up being.”

His attorney Wesley White — who resigned from the State Attorney’s Office in December and is a critic of Corey — said the firing was aimed at sending a message to office employees “that if they feel like there is wrongdoing,” they should not disclose it or seek legal guidance from a private attorney.

“If they do speak to an attorney, then they are dead,” he said. “The State Attorney’s Office will do whatever is necessary to not only terminate them, but destroy their reputations in the process.”

State Attorney spokeswoman Jackelyn Barnard did not return phone calls or emails for comment.

Kruidbos, 42, had been on paid administrative leave since May 28 from his $80,892 job.

In January, he used computer software technology to extract photographs and text messages from the source file in Martin’s cellphone. Kruidbos was able to recover more information than the Florida Department of Law Enforcement obtained previously.

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GETTING LEGAL ADVICE

Kruidbos said he became concerned that lead prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda might not have turned over Kruidbos’ report to defense attorneys. Kruidbos asked White in April for legal advice and described some contents of his report such as a photo of an African-American hand holding a gun, a photo of a plant resembling marijuana, and a text message referring to a gun transaction.

White then contacted one of Zimmerman’s attorneys and learned the defense had not received the report generated by Kruidbos. The defense did receive the source file from the cellphone and used its own experts to extract data.

Last month, Zimmerman’s attorneys subpoenaed both White and Kruidbos during a pretrial hearing on their motion seeking sanctions against prosecutors. Circuit Judge Debra Nelson deferred a ruling until after the trial.

Before Kruidbos’ name surfaced in the Martin trial proceedings, he received a pay raise for “meritorious performance,” according to a document dated May 16, 2012 in his personnel file.

Cheryl Peek and Angela CoreyBut the dismissal letter written by Peek contends he did his job poorly as information technology director and said he should have asked someone in the office about his concerns regarding the Martin case.

Your egregious lack of regard for the sensitive nature of the information handled by this office is completely abhorrent,” Peek wrote. “You have proven to be completely untrustworthy. Because of your deliberate, wilful and unscrupulous actions, you can never again be trusted to step foot in this office.”

The letter said Kruidbos “apparently questioned the ethics” of de la Rionda, who has been an assistant state attorney since 1983. “His record as an honorable and respected attorney is unblemished and beyond reproach,” Peek wrote.

Kruidbos said the question of de la Rionda’s ethics “is not really my place to decide.”

He said he asked White for legal advice because he was concerned he could face “legal exposure” if the cellphone report wasn’t turned over to the defense before the trial started.

He said he did not feel comfortable posing that question to anyone within the office because the State Attorney’s Office had just conducted an in-house probe of whether someone was leaking personnel information. (read more)

Here is Corey’s response to the complaint. (*note it is within this complaint response where Corey first claims the evidence information is “work product”.)

So – How did The Kruidbos Aspect play out in the Zimmerman Trial ?

This was the subject of the late night testy exchange during a proffer hearing on 7/9/13 between Don West and State Prosecutors / Judge Nelson.

If you listen closely to the Defense Expert Witness, Richard Conner, testimony you realize what he has found.

The phone deletions were made in specific sequence, containing specific content.   That content circled around all of the attributes which would have affected trial considerations in this case about the character and reputation of Trayvon Martin.

All was deleted except for some porn pictures.

The reason the porn pictures were not found and removed by the person deleting was because how they were stored/hidden in the phone.   The person deleting would not have seen them as images, and would have needed an application (“app”) to understand the “bit” file which was also password protected.

Data Forensics Expert Richard Conner is outlining a very specific educated thesis highlighted by the fact the phone was scrubbed of damning evidence after death.

Meaning somehow a person intentionally removed, “deleted”, the data – from the hardware, the phone itself.

Obviously, prosecuting attorney Mantai objects when Conner is going there with his explanations – but the implication is crystal clear.

If the state of Florida retained custody of that phone – then someone from FDLE, or in association with the chain of evidence, deleted the phone data.

Deleted data is never technically deleted, it just goes to a different internal file on the phone that allows overwriting, a “bin file”.   Deleted data can be, and was, retrieved.

It was THAT specifically and SEQUENTIALLY DELETED data that was missing in the State’s discovery to the defense until June 4th 2013. And even after that time, the essential summary of the data, which was included in a written report, was devoid of mention to this specific data file of sequentially deleted evidence.

What does this mean?

It lends to only one Occam’s Razor explanation: The STATE prosecutorial team intentionally deleted the data, or they were fully aware someone had deleted the data, then the state intentionally delivered a partial file to the defense without  the sequentially deleted data included.

Later, when they were cold-busted, and at the last-minute before trial (June 4th), they delivered the full data set, but even then they still omitted the deleted data from the written report summarizing the entire “bin” file.

(Note #1 – the defense team retrieved the data themselves when the size of the bin file conflicted with the actual data contained in discovery.)

(Note #2 – if the prosecution is claiming now the withheld data is “work product”, they are admitting to intentional omission.  They can’t claim it was accidental or unintentional pre-trial, and simultaneously claim it was “work product” as their post-trial reasoning.)

Essentially, the State hid the evidence – and Don West, along with Ben Kruidbos, have a specific understanding of how and who has falsely presented the manipulated information.

The State prosecutor Bernie de La Rionda also falsely testified, pre-trial, in court, to the data delivery (they now claim as “work product”) and the process under which it was done.

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Back in April  2013 – That’s what Whistle Blower, Ben Kruidbos, was trying to tell the defense team, the court and Judge Nelson…

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….but unfortunately Kruidbos was handcuffed in court trying to explain facts, because the Defense team had yet to receive the manipulated data in the form he, as a Whistle Blower, was describing it.

This issue, combined with a seriously uncomfortable hanging judge in Debra Nelson who realized if she allowed this pre-trial investigation to go forward there would be huge delays, and, worst case – an entire mistrial before the case even reached court.    This would have been politically EXPLOSIVE in the extreme.

The full phone data was not delivered to the defense until 6/4/13.  A full year after they first became aware of it and mere days before juror selection began.

The trial Judge, Debra Nelson, was fully anticipated to take up a post-trial hearing for sanctions against the state for discovery violations around this issue – the date for the hearing is yet undetermined.   A recent court action revealed the decision of “when” is actually up to George Zimmerman himself.    While odd, perhaps Zimmerman is waiting on the outcome from the Kruidbos case against Corey.

Unfortunately, according to data forensics expert Conner, the date of the actual deletion itself cannot be clearly identified. However, from the type of data deleted it will be possible to determine an approximate time based on *what* was deleted and where the simultaneous deletions fall in relationship to other deleted content.

Conner can show that all of the damaging data was deleted sequentially and simultaneously by the way it aligns, and by the fact the data set is in the last item position at the end of the bin file of deleted data.

But Trayvon Martin was dead.

From the moment of his death *supposedly* only law enforcement held custody of the phone itself.    Remember Trayvon’s father refused to give the Sanford Police Dept the PIN CODE to open the phone content itself, and the phone was picked up at the scene as evidence during the shooting investigation.

The evidence (phone itself) will have a chain of custody.

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That Chain of Custody may narrow their search for the specific person responsible for the deletions.   However, “May” being the key word;  depending on whether all lawful processes for checking and touching evidence were followed and logs kept accurately.

However, the actual download of the “bin” file probably does not have chain of custody – so while it may be possible to prove the construct of the deception, the actual person who did it may never be identified. That would be the subject for an internal special investigation by a State appointee from the Governors office.

Regardless, when the data was retrieved, there is enough factual evidence to outline a serious and intentional attempt to hide evidence in the Zimmerman case surrounding the phone data of Trayvon Martin.

The retaliation, the firing of Ben Kruidbos, for his concern about being part of intentional deception, is now going to reach sunlight as a consequence of this lawsuit brought by him against Angela Corey.

The Brady violations in State discovery are a big deal not only for George Zimmerman, but also for Ben Kruidbos, who has been fired from his job for speaking up about the hiding of, and manipulation of, evidence in the case.

If George Zimmerman is going to approach a malicious prosecution claim against Angela Corey, and subsequently the State of Florida, Ben Kruidbos is going to play a key role. Additionally, the possible sanctions against Bernie De La Rionda and the entire prosecution team – will weigh heavily toward pressure upon Corey to be disciplined, or even fired by her boss, Governor Rick Scott.

If the Brady violations are proven to the court, which in my opinion is not difficult, then the sanctions and discipline against the state could also benefit Ben Kruidbos in any civil action of his own. So both George Zimmerman and Ben Kruidbos stand to benefit from winning the post trial hearing.

Also, just to give you a taste of the level of deception around this prosecution, we also shared a Smaller issue which also surfaced during that same late-night proffer hearing. Again, just more evidence of how deceptive all the parties aligned against George Zimmerman had become:

At the :15 second mark of this video, in response to the state now taking the position the phone data cannot be authenticated (which was absurd on its face) Conner reveals that Trayvon Martin’s phone was actually a part of Sybrina Fulton’s family account plan.

Sybrina Fulton was the account holder.:

Meaning it was not, as previously stated by the Scheme Team way back on 3/20/12, Tracy Martin accessing his own phone records on 3/17/12 which could have revealed “Dee Dee” or Witness #8, later identified as Rachel Jeantel.

Another BIG manipulative lie.

Which begs the question: When Benjamin Crump passed out partial phone records to the media on 3/20/12, they included the name of the account owner as Tracy Martin. How is this possible on the printed detail if the phone was actually under the account of Sybrina Fulton?

Why is this important ?….

……because it leads into my Final Thoughts:  From following the entire case closely, reading every interview by every participant, researching the documents and evidence, and filling in blanks from trial testimony, it is possible to see another scenario about the deleted content.

When Sanford City Manager, the Mayor and Chief of Police played the 911 phone calls for the Martin family and their attorneys, Chief Bill Lee testified he and the mayor were asked to leave the room.   The Martin family and their attorneys were alone in the mayor’s office for approximately 40 minutes, at their request, after they listened to the 911 calls.

Did someone, possibly City Manager Norton Bonaparte, bring the Trayvon cell phone to the meeting and provide an opportunity for phone deletion to take place ?

Someone deleted that phone data (pictures and text messages) post-mortem.   Who?    For whom was it a risk?  Who stood to benefit?

There are only two possible parties who would benefit.

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141 Responses to The Aftermath Of The Zimmerman Persecution Continues – Ben Kruidbos Lawsuit Against Angela Corey and Her Responses (Updated pdf Court Filings Attached)

  1. Be Ge says:

    Are the benefiting parties really that separate?

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  2. bobby1122 says:

    State said they fired Ben Kruidbos for poor work but months before firing him they gave him a raise and praise… DA scum cover up!!

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  3. rumpole2 says:

    The trial Judge, Debra Nelson, was fully anticipated to take up a post-trial hearing for sanctions against the state for discovery violations around this issue – the date for the hearing is yet undetermined. A recent court action revealed the decision of when is actually up to George Zimmerman himself. While odd, perhaps Zimmerman is waiting on the outcome from the Kruidbos case against Corey.

    This all seems like a daft “Mexican Stand off”

    Accord to the ruling by Nelson…The Zimmerman V NBC suit is on hold until the Bernie sanctions(and judicial inquiry) issue is resolved and the Bernie sanctions are perhaps on hold while the Kruidbos stuff plays out.

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    • rumpole2 says:

      And just for giggles… throw in the threat of DOJ Civil Rights suit against Zimmerman :eek
      Who knows what Holder is waiting for? But THAT threat needs to be ended.

      AND the possibility (slim) of a Wrongful Death Suit by Schemer Crump on behalf of the Martin/Fulton Constructed “family”
      MAYBE George is waiting for the second anniversary of TM’s death (26th February) and the (2 year) Statute of Limitations on a wrongful death claim.

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      • sundance says:

        Eric Holder will keep that investigation “open” until all of the parties who gain benefit from a) it not being revealed they find nothing against Zimmerman; and b) it keeps Zimmerman from being able to aggressively talk about the backstory.

        Until Crump, Parks, Jackson, The Martin’s and Fulton’s, as well as Corey are out of the woods, Holder will keep the DOJ case open.

        Once the aforementioned are done with the potential for litigation – He will close the investigation / file.

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  4. Lou says:

    it’s a great day when you wake up and see the name Ben Kruidbos. he is a hero for truth and justice.

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  5. Lou says:

    my next question will be, “How will the media try and cover the Fight Club video?” of course we know Trayvon was the ref, but it will be out there soon and we will watch Piers Morgan spin it saying it doesn’t like Trayvon fighting etc.

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    • IFoundMyVoice says:

      Yep. Piers Morgan’s love for Trayvon is only eclipsed by his love for Rachel Jeantel.

      Hard enough to swallow that so many Americans made a folk hero of a thug, but when the rest of the cast of characters were idealized it made me feel a bit spinny.

      Crip members are great Dads? Absentee mothers are perfect Moms? An obese, barely literate, rude and angry, lying young woman is America’s Sweetheart?

      The same folks sneered at the Romney family for its car elevator, Mitt’s use of “binders of women” and later his adopted black grandchild.

      Seems like anything sold to the American people they will buy. But at least with Pet Rocks the buyers were in on the joke.

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  6. dws says:

    I’m shocked. Work Product? Is the woman insane? I don’t mean that figuratively.

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    • John Galt says:

      I would have to spend a lot of time researching the matter to evaluate the legitimacy of the work product claim. My off the cuff thoughts:

      You have a cell phone with data in a data format. An expert uses special, expensive software to extract and report the data in a human readable format. You give a disc containing the cell phone data in the data format to opposing counsel. You claim that the human readable report is privileged as fact attorney work product. The human readable report is available to opposing counsel from the data format in an alternative way, if they buy the special software and hire a computer expert. (Does that constitute need and undue hardship?)

      Quote:

      The Supreme Court of Florida described the work product doctrine as follows:
      Pursuant to Florida Rule of Civil Procedure 1.280(b)(3), materials prepared in anticipation of litigation by or for a party or its representative are protected from discovery, unless the party seeking discovery has need of the material and is unable to obtain the substantial equivalent without undue hardship. The rationale supporting the work product doctrine is that “one party is not entitled to prepare his case through the investigative work product of his adversary where the same or similar information is available through ordinary investigative techniques and discovery procedures.” Dodson v. Persell, 390 So. 2d 704, 708 (Fla. 1980). Fact work product traditionally protects that information which relates to the case and is gathered in anticipation of litigation. State v. Rabin, 495 So. 2d 257 (Fla. 3d DCA 1986). Opinion work product consists primarily of the attorney’s mental impressions, conclusions, opinions, and theories. Id. Whereas fact work product is subject to discovery upon a showing of “need” and “undue hardship,” opinion work product generally remains protected from disclosure.
      Southern Bell Tel. & Tel. Co. v. Deason, 632 So. 2d 1377, 1384 (Fla. 1994).

      [Does the same standard apply to fact work product in Florida criminal cases?]

      Article:

      http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/311/Ehrhardt.pdf

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      • Cyber says:

        So essentially Corey is claiming that they were able to view the deleted data using special software and did so pre-discovery, and that took effort on their part and therefore they were under no obligation to give the defense that information at discovery. The problem is, they never actually gave them the complete bin file (at least for a year anyway) so even if the defense did buy that special expensive software, they would not have had access to that information.

        Corey’s argument is only one a lawyer could love. A sentient human would find it laughable on its face.

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      • dws says:

        I think you are exactly right about the basis of “work product” John. In the trial, Bernie essentially said all of these things about the work, the software, the ability of the defense to find the same things they did. And as Cyber said below, that case could be made if the defense had access to the same complete raw data as the prosecutors. But stepping back for a second, the purpose of the public prosecutors is supposed to be to serve justice. At least as far as the public is supposed to view it. It isn’t supposed to be that this cabal of like-minded individuals uses the public resources to get the verdicts they want even if that requires hiding facts that destroy their false narrative. And any information they uncover should be facts that can be used to prove innocence or guilt. So the only excuse they can have for withholding “work product”, which by the way is paid for by the tax payers including George Zimmerman, is to get a verdict they want, rather than to expose the facts to the light of day.

        I know. Talking about justice and truth and facts is pretty foreign to this Florida court and maybe lawyers love this type of wriggling, but I see it as yet another straw breaking the camels back of this beautiful country.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        The concept of “work product” is important, but something overlooked here is that (when asked in open court by the defense about the existence of any other reports concerning the contents of the phone) BDLR did not assert the argument of “work product”. He simply (and completely) denied the existence of Kruidbos’s report, altogether. In short, he lied about it in open court, and John Guy “sat there like a potted palm” while BDLR lied.

        By this time, the defense had already been in communication with Wes White, and knew full well of the existence of such a report by Ben Kruidbos, and (I believe) the defense anticipated Bernie’s response. In effect, they set a trap for him, and he fell into it.

        While the State’s claim that the report was “work product” may (or may not) hold up in court, (this is subject to how well the matter is argued, and interpreted in any subsequent legal actions) it still is not the sole determining factor of whether BDLR acted improperly during that hearing. It’s quite obvious that he lied about the existence of Kruidbo’s report, and did so in open court, in response to a direct question from the opposing party, during an official hearing in front of the presiding judge.

        A failure to censure BDLR for his behavior on this matter would seem to be a complete affront to the entire judicial system, IMO.

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        • jordan2222 says:

          Didn’t BLDR also lie to Nelson?

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          • LetJusticePrevail" says:

            Certainly. Any lie told in response to a direct question during a hearing is the same thing as a lie being told directly to the judge, herself. Naturally, Nelson couldn’t have cared less, as she was complicit in the shenanigans the prosecutors were perpetrating in her courtroom. This was indicated by her quick decision to end the sanctions hearing when things were getting “interesting”.

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      • nivico says:

        “…“one party is not entitled to prepare his case through the investigative work product of his adversary where the same or similar information is available through ordinary investigative techniques and discovery procedures.” …”

        Key word there… ORDINARY.

        The fact that even the FDLE wasn’t able to retrieve as much data from the phone as SAO/Kruidbos did with their uber expensive software would seem to indicate that the SAO had to know that the defense wouldn’t be able to retrieve the same exculpatory information the SAO had in its possession.

        The simple fact that it was exculpatory information nullifies the whole “work product” privilege argument anyway… they were legally obligated to turn it over to the defense.

        I seem to recall, too, Don West mentioning that repeated discovery requests for this information were met with silence.

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  7. auscitizenmom says:

    The (apparantly) never-ending saga of the criminal actions of the Persecution during the Zimmerman trial.

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  8. AghastInFL says:

    So, what is the possibility the phone contained all the while a “knockout video”? wild conjecture? not based on Serino’s actual words… I will go to my grave believing that Trayvon was motivated by something similar.

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  9. dsb steve says:

    “… White then contacted one of Zimmerman’s attorneys and learned the defense had not received the report generated by Kruidbos. The defense did receive the source file from the cellphone and used its own experts to extract data. …”

    Does this mean the defense was given the raw contents of the phone? If so that dampens this charge, no? I side with George, but if his defense team had this evidence and did not present it to the jury then our complaint is with them, no?

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    • sundance says:

      The defense team cannot be responsible for what they didn’t know, when the information was hidden from them.

      However, the defense team is at fault for not aggressively pursuing the issues of phone manipulation once they became aware of content deletion. See LJP’s longer explanation below.

      Why the defense team never pursued the issue can be chalked up to the short distance between the pre-trial evidencury hearings and Juror selection beginning… They had to prioritize given the trial and a judge who was pushing to a trial date without delay.

      However, it’s like they set the issues on a shelf and then just decided to ignore them forever.

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      • dsb steve says:

        yeah, anytime a defendant has to pay his attorney for info that the prosecution has in their possession the work product rule should not apply.

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    • Cyber says:

      As I remember it, the defense wasn’t given the entire bin file to start with. They got one about 1/4 the size of the original. That was what flagged Ben initially. That is, if I remember correctly.

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  10. Cyber says:

    Well, you see, Trayvon knew that Zimmerman was going to try to rape him, so he spent the last few minutes hiding behind a bush, desperately erasing his phone data as fast as he could so that creepy ass cracka couldn’t look at it mid-rape.

    /sarc

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  11. Springtreet says:

    If more unpublicized and deleted texts become available, the details of Trayvon Martin’s Miami banishment should shed more light on the prosecution’s cover-up. Trayvon was devastated that his biological mother $ybrina text messaged him to leave … after he was expelled from school(s) and cut off from his stepmother (by is father’s cheating) and his real girlfriend (by his own fighting) and his jailed best friend (who had stabbed HIS mother 17 times). And Trayvon’s (still married) father who lived alone with a sister? He had just taken off for his tryst with “girlfriend” Brandi … leaving his abandoned son with $100.
    But that leaves an unanswered question: if Trayvon was going to Sanford for his new life … where were all his worldly possessions? Was even one suitcase found at Brandi’s?
    Maybe a text will be found from a “responsible” relative … a relative Tracy called first … a relative who was in Sanford … with a car … that morning (and later?) … who knew Trayvon ended up with exactly $22 in his (missing) wallet … and was dropped off at the “back gate”?

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  12. dean says:

    Please tell me that Corey and her team of vipers could face prison time for this–please God.

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    • scaretactics says:

      + 1000000.

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      • jordan2222 says:

        “Corey and her team of vipers?” She had quite a large team of vipers (aka scheme team,) with the POTUS at the top. There is little doubt in my mind that ALL of the “members” of the Scheme team knew about that phone. It is why Tracey refused to cooperate from the start.

        Let’s see how many of them are held accountable and face real consequences. Can we count on you to keep us updated? lol

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  13. hooson1st says:

    Not going to happen.

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  14. IFoundMyVoice says:

    She’d be likened to Viola Liuzzo.

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  15. I want proof the cousin left town that day. The thing that drives me nuts, personally, is nobody is harping on the idea that he tweeted “Thank you God. You kept him from doing something he shouldn’t be doing”. How did he know that? He knew so much while being out of town from that Sunday morning. I ijust don’t buy it. The story always reeked of a ‘cover your ass’ story. Everybody wanted to hide or invented some weird story. And nobody, certainly, talked about Trayvon taking a bus. Being that he hid pot up his you know what, I can see why.

    The kid was becoming trouble and everybody around him was failing him. They all covered their you know whats for a reason and lied for a reason. I wish somebody out there with the power to do something would actually do just that. Good luck to Ben.

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  16. Moishe Pipik says:

    I’ve wondered why the Martin “family” didn’t try a wrongful death lawsuit. The only possible reason is that they don’t want the facts about Fruit supplying guns to Trayvon to get out.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I believe you are correct. The discovery process of a wrongful death suit would have brought a lot of things to light, including what you mentioned. And, they would have nothing to gain from it.

      The insurer of the HOA has already settled with the “Estate of Trayvon Martin” so they had “cash in hand” which could be lost if they filed a suit that involved expensive litigation and offered GZ with the opportunity to successfully file for immunity (with the added support of a verdict that said “Not Guilty”) and force them to pay his legal costs with their ill-gotten gains.

      Also, for all intents and purposes, there is no guarantee that George would ever have the ability to pay them a dime. (The NBC suit is stalled, and there’s no guarantee he will win, or how much he would get. And, even if he does win, Mark O’Mara and Don West have a prior claim for $2.5 million dollars against George)

      And finally, they would be risking the proceeds from their “gravy train” of donations to the various websites and foundations they set up, and pay themselves from. What would happen to those donations if it was openly revealed that Tracy Martin was helping Trayvon locate a gun, and all of the other little details about Trayvon that were found on his phone by Conner and Kruidbos? LOL Those donations could very well “dry up” entirely.

      No, it makes perfect sense that $ybrina and/or Tracy would never file such a suit. They have nothing to gain, and LOTS to lose.

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    • Stormy says:

      I’ve wondered why the Martin “family” didn’t try a wrongful death lawsuit.
      1. Sundance
      2. TheConservativeTreehouse
      3. Wolverines

      😉

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  17. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    The analysis by SD outlines some very interesting events, and perhaps even answers a few questions that even he did not raise. In particular, one nagging question about the travels of Trayvon Martin’s cell phone, who actually “handled” that phone, but most importantly, why was the phone sent to California to be examined by Perry Kuhl?

    If you recall, the phone was taken into evidence by the SPD on the night of 2/26/12, and held as evidence. Initially, (on the scene) they tried to access the phone’s memory but (somehow) were unable to do so. The allegation, at that time, was that the phone was inaccessible either due to the fact that it got wet (it was raining on 2/26) or that because the phone’s battery was completely discharged. So, the SPD then sent the phone to the SCSO to have the memory accessed but, the SCSO was unable to unlock the phone because (after it had been charged) they were either unable to determine the “Swype code” (which prevents the phone being used by anyone other than the “authorized user) or because the phone was already completely “locked” as a result of too many attempts to guess the “Swype Code”.

    This raises two questions:

    1) Was the SPD actually so inept that they could not find a compatible charger for the phone, or
    2) Did the SPD actually charge the phone, but then inadvertently cause the phone to “brick” by making too many attempts to “guess” the Swype Code?

    None of the subsequent reports ever definitively answered those questions, so we don’t really know when the phone “bricked”, or who was responsible. But we know it certainly wasn’t Trayvon Martin, himself.

    Continuing, we know that the SCSO returned the phone (in its “bricked state”) to the SPD, who then contacted T-Mobile (the provider of service) and were assured by T-Mobile that they could, indeed, assist with the unlocking of the phone if the account holder would provide the PIN for the master account. Subsequently, the SPD contacted Tracy Martin, under the assumption that he was the account holder, and would be willing to provide the PIN, which would assist T-Mobile and the SPD in their endeavors to unlock the phone and access the internal memory. But Tracy Martin refused to provide any PIN, and said that he would only assist them after speaking with his attorney (Ben Crump). Once again, we enter into a “gray area” because there is no definitive revelation about the communications (in regard to the PIN) between Crump and Tracy Martin. All we know is that Tracy later went on the record as saying that he would not assist the SPD in their investigation (cue the BGI, and their assertions that the SPD investigation was biased in favor of George Zimmerman’s account of what happened). Which raises two more questions:

    3) Would Tracy have been able to provide a PIN that could have unlocked the phone, or
    4) Was Sybrina Fulton the only person who could provide the correct PIN?

    Either way, we know that both Tracy and Sybrina both had a vested interest in preventing (or at least stalling) access to the memory since it would not only damage the image (of Trayvon) that they were manufacturing, but would also reveal Tracy “Fruit” Martin’s communications with Trayvon about Trayvon’s desire to acquire a firearm, and Tracy’s participation in those efforts. But, I digress. Back to the phone, itself, and its whereabouts.

    After the SPD failed to access the internal memory, the phone supposedly was kept in their evidence locker until it was eventually placed in storage at the FDLE OROC evidence vault in Orlando (signed in by “Jackie Blue” on 3/22/12), where it was (allegedly) kept until signed out by Detective Dale Gilbreath, (October 5th of 2012) and Fedex’d ( a full week later on Oct 12th) to Detective Perry Kuhl of the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office. At that time, Perry Kuhl was considered to be one of the nation’s foremost experts in “carving” (a process of accessing internal phone memories by attaching wires directly to the motherboard of the phone, bypassing all of the phone’s security software) cell phones that had “bricked”. And that is exactly what Perry Kuhl did. He removed the case of the phone, attached wires to the motherboard, and accessed the phone’s memory, compiled a report (that included the “Swype Code”), then put the pieces into a package and Fedex’d everything back to Detective Dale Gilbreath. (who received it on Oct 31st). It’s well worth noting that, at this point, Dale Gilbreath (of the 4th District SAO) not only had a bin file generated by Perry Kuhl, but also had everything necessary to access the entire contents of Travon’s phone. He had the phone, itself, the Swype Code necessary to access the memory, and also had IT experts in the FDLE who had the forensic edition of the Cellebrite Corporations software that could reveal not only what was retained in the memory, but also any information that had been deleted. Yet, for some unknown reason, Gilbreath kept the phone until Nov 8th before he returned the phone to FDLE SA Supervisor David Lee, who gave it to FDLE SA Stephen Brenton (on Nov 9th) for analysis. The whereabouts of the phone after that point is vague, until it was (on January 13th 2013) personally escorted to the Cellebrite Corporation in .New Jersey by SA Stephen Brenton, and finally signed back into the FDLE OROC evidence vault (Jan 18th by Jackie Blue) Wow. That’s a LOT of examination for one little phone, isn’t it? One has to wonder why the State Attorney’s office was so intent to access the memory of the phone, since they already knew it had shut off during the confrontation between GZ and TM, and they already had access to any photos or videos that TM may have taken (but could not have himself possibly deleted) that would have any relevance to the incident on 2/26/12, itself. In short, why was the SA office so interested in the phone’s memory, since it could not contain a single hidden thing that could aid their prosecution of GZ? And I’ve skipped over a LOT of questions to present the story of “the Travelling Phone”:

    5) Why did Dale Gilbreath keep the phone for 1 week before shipping it to Perry Kuhl?
    6) Why ship the phone to Perry Kuhl instead of to FDLE or Cellebrite in the 1st place?
    7) Why did Dale Gilbreath keep the phone for 8 days before giving it to David Lee?
    8) Where was the phone between Nov 9th and Jan 13th when Brenton flew it to NJ?
    9) Why did Brenton personally fly the phone to NJ instead of shipping it like Gilbreath had?
    10) Why take the phone to Cellebrite, at all?

    Throughout that period of time we were all very concerned about the GPS data the phone contained, in hopes that it would help determine Trayvon’s travels on 2/26/12, and whether it could show that Trayvon had gone somewhere other than witness 8 claimed, or whether Trayvon had hidden near the “T” intersection to await George, or even if Trayvon had gone to Brandy Green’s residence and then returned to the “T” to attack George. But, mysteriously, the GPS data for that one date was missing from the phone, and no plausible explanation was ever made to explain that gap in data. It was never determined whether the GPS feature had been shut off by Trayvon Martin, or if the data was present and had been (somehow) deleted. But, more significantly, there appears to be no attempt made (even by the defense) to determine what happened to that data. It was simply just accepted as a “fact of life” and never properly investigated, or even explained. To this day, what happened to that GPS data remains a question that neither the prosecution or defense ever asks, let alone tries to answer. The prosecution has every reason to suppress this information, since their prosecution could not benefit from the data, but why didn’t the defense scream “bloody murder” about it? But again, I have digressed. This thread is about Ben Kruidbos, and his suit, not about the phone,or GZ’s defense, itself.

    SD already laid out Kruidbos’s involvement in the trial, and how his testimony (or attempt to deliver it) revealed BDLR’s (and Corey’s) deceitful (and illegal) suppression of evidence. He also laid out how Conner’s testimony revealed “Fruit’s” involvement to procure a gun for Trayvon, and the revelation that Trayvon’s phone was on an account held by Sybrina, and not Tracy (a point that Conner.does not express with certainty, but does express his belief of, to the best of his memory-an answer that the defense should have clarified by other means, and which makes one wonder why the defense did not pursue it). Yet, at any rate, there is obfuscation involved on the part of the prosecution. So how does all of this answer the 10 questions I raised?

    1+2) The SPD had zero motivation to “stall” access to the phone, and even an idiot could read the model number of the phone and find a compatible charger. I believe this WAS done, and that it was someone at the SPD who managed to cause the phone to “brick”.so they sent to phone to the SCSO hoping they could access it, but the SCSO fell short of that, but helped to “hide” the ineptitude of the SPD by simply not mentioning whether the phone was already “bricked” by the time they initially accessed it.

    3+4) Tracy may or may not have had knowledge of the correct PIN for the account, even if it was in Sybrina’s name. She could have given it to him on a prior occasion so that he would be able to pay the bills. It’s also possible that the account was set up with “tiered” access which would allow Tracy to inquire about the billing, but not make changes to the account, itself. (this would explain why the phone record provided by Crump had the name “Tracy” included in the T-Mobile call record for Trayvon’s phone, and also why the record provided by Crump did not include the “header page” that would have named the actual account holder). I believe it WAS in Sybrina’s name, and that Crump wanted to hide that fact to divert attention to Tracy, while Crump and Sybrina worked behind the scenes in Miami Gardens to cultivate the “DeeDee” persona, and her eventual “testimony.”

    5) I believe there is no plausible explanation why Gilbreath would retrieve the phone from the FDLE OROC evidence vault and hold it for a week unless he was trying to access the memory himself, and that he had a specific reason for doing so. By this time, the prosecution already knew that there were problems with witness 8 (they learned as much on Aug 2nd) and (I suspect) they had become aware of the conversations about guns and/or drugs. They also realized it would be very damaging to their case if this was discovered by the defense, so Gilbreath (at the least) wanted to know what BDLR had to prepare for, or (probably) even wanted to remove that evidence from the phone. But he still could not get access to the memory because (possibly under instructions from Crump) Tracy and/or Sybrina (or both) did not provide the PIN, thereby keeping T-Mobile from assisting in the unlocking of the phone. So, Gilbreath sent out “feelers” to find someone to assist his efforts. He probably even communicated with BDLR (or Corey, herself) to provide a “situation report.”

    6) I believe Perry Kuhl was chosen to “carve” the phone not only because of his expertise (something that Cellebrite Corporation could have also done) but also because he could do so “off the record” and, since he was LEO himself, would be sympathetic to the prosecutors, rather than be entirely neutral. And, bear in mind, the defense only learned about the phone’s trip to CA after a specific request for the “chain of evidence” documentation. I believe that the prosecutors had no intention of informing the defense that Kuhl had already helped them access the phone’s memory. Also, since Kuhl was out-of-state, the prosecution had an additional layer of red tape to hinder the defense from deposing Kuhl, or summoning him to testify about his involvement with the phone, and what he found on it. And his involvement also acted as a “failsafe” if the plot was discovered. He was an additional person who could have possibly deleted/”lost” information from the phone, including the GPS data and the texts about guns, leaving the element of uncertainty and “reasonable doubt” as to whether it was someone in the 4th district SA office (Gilbreath) or the FDLE (Brenton) who deleted information from the phone (both of which could be directly associated with Angela Corey and BDLR). If nothing else Kuhl’s involvement would provide “reasonable doubt” should the plot be uncovered, if not “plausible deniability”..

    7) I believe that Dale Gilbreath kept the phone for 8 days after receiving it from Kuhl, but before handing it over to David Lee for a specific purpose. Just like I believe he kept it for a full week before sending it to Kuhl, in the first place. Once he had the Swype Code, Gibreath had full access to the phone’s memory and could delete all incriminating evidence from it, which HAD to be done before the phone could be sent to the FDLE for “official” analysis.

    8) Between November 9th and January 13th the phone was delivered to the FDLE for analysis. WHY it took so long is a mystery.

    9) I believe that Stephen Brenton personally flew with the phone to NJ in January 2013 to expedite the process. By this time, the defense was inquiring about the phone requesting access to it, and I believe this put the prosecution into a mad rush to establish a believable timeline for their investigation of the contents of the phone, but one that (conveniently) would obfuscate their having Perry Kuhl access the phone in Oct 2012, and Dale Gilbreath’s un-monitored (and un-explained) handling of the phone. (remember-he’s NOT a “phone or IT expert”)

    10) SO, I believe, they sent Brenton to the Cellebrite Corporation with the phone to enable them to provide another (less incriminating) explanation of how and when the phone was accessed.

    Going full circle,this returns us to the point of asking WHY was all this done? WHY go to all this trouble to get information from the phone that could NOT assist the prosecution in any way? As I outlined, it was not possible for the phone to contain any photos or videos taken by Trayvon Martin that would bolster their case against George Zimmerman. And the prosecution already had the testimony of “DeeDee” (Rachel Jeantel) to establish their narrative of what they allege transpired that night. They didn’t need anything that was on Trayvon’s phone. But (I believe) they DID need to prevent the defense from having access to what they knew was on the phone. Part of which were the texts about guns between Trayvon and “Fruit” and Trayvon and Rachel Jeantel. And possibly, the GPS data that would have shown whether Trayvon hid at the “T” or left, and returned there.

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    • sundance says:

      Excellent analysis.

      Also, the mere fact that a sequential file of deleted data (texts and pictures) exists is, by itself, an alarming factor because it proves a person physically deleted data on the phone.

      Trayvon Martin was dead. The phone was in the custody of law enforcement from the moment of death. So just that fact alone is enough of a reason to open an investigation for “tampering of evidence”.

      Obviously that data was not deleted by Trayvon Martin. The fact that anything was “deleted” is again, by itself, a problem….

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Exactly. Since the deleted data was in a single sequential file it proves that those texts were selectively deleted at the same time. Had that not been the case, the deleted information would have been stored in separate, smaller files at different memory addresses, since any “new” saved data would have interrupted the filing process. This not only proves that the texts were deleted at the same time, but also proves that these deletions were done after Trayvon Martin died.

        Naturally, that still leaves the questions of “who” and “when”. My money is on Det Gilbreath, and on the period of time after he got the phone back from Perry Kuhl, and before he gave it to David Lee. I thoroughly believe that an extensive forensic investigation of the BIN file could very well reveal the “when” with near certain accuracy, leaving only the question of “who”, which could have been established by a more thorough “on the record” questioning of Kuhl, Gilbreath, Lee, and Brenton in regards to the “chain of custody” for the phone between the time it was checked out of the OROC evidence vault by Gilbreath, and the time is was checked back into OROC by Brenton.

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      • Moishe Pipik says:

        Now *this* would be something for the DOJ to investigate. *NOT* to search for any “civil rights” violations (and finding none, despite their best efforts). If only our Administration wasn’t full of racists.

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          My thoughts, exactly. But then, why would Eric Holder order an investigation into something in which he supports? /s

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        • jordan2222 says:

          I have not heard this since the beginning of the case but the truth from my perspective is that it’s George’s civil rights that have been violated and that should be the focus of any investigation. IIRC, that was one of the reasons given as to why it would be risky to arrest him.

          Is it time to file such a petition? That would surely ruffle some feathers.

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      • waltherppk says:

        The entire forensic history about the phone is a reading of a fictional account about half baked evidence tampering from a state authored evidence cookbook.

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        • Stormy says:

          Hey waltherppk… it’s good to “see” you!

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          • waltherppk says:

            Hey back to you. It is a cosmic coincidence that the subject of Ben Kruidbos would come up here at CTH on the very day that I am doing research looking at this despicable prosecutorial misconduct by the corrupt gangster state of Floriduh put on full public display, as an example of the ubiquitous nature of the cronyism of criminals who operate under color of authority and pretend to be a lawful government for Florida. There is a RICO aspect to Floriduh government which probably evolved from the Trafficante crime family and other related crime syndicate “ways and means committees” decades ago and has become institutional corruption. The corruption when exposed is attempted to be shielded by its claims of sovereign immunity or limited liability or judicial immunity or agency protection, so there is no remedy at law for an individual has been run over roughshod by the state. The idiotic displays of corruption insulting the intelligence of any discerning honest person, which were shamelessly put on full public display during the Zimmerman trial are a sample of the same kinds of garbage as I face in litigation with this corrupt state over a corrupt prosecution of my son. Prosecutorial misconduct involving Brady violations are particularly “standard operating procedure” in Floriduh where the state places its order for the crime lab evidence reports that it wants and buries any reports it doesn’t want that could show problems of evidence authentication related to evidence alteration, evidence destruction, and evidence manufacture done by the police themselves. When it comes to reliable forensics science, Floriduh will assemble a conspiracy of “experts” to present false junk science and lies and will try to impeach the testimony of qualified experts who would expose the corrupt “evidence handling” which pleases the state of Floriduh to present as a FRAUD deliberately perpetrated in a court of law which if it is a court of Floriduh is not really a court of law but is only a conference room for the crime family that is the aristocracy of criminals who operate above the law and call themselves a government in Floriduh. Anybody who followed with interest the Zimmerman case got the full picture on how “law” in Floriduh is really just corrupt politics and has little or nothing to do with what most people think is law and legal process. It is more like a soap opera in Floriduh which has a set that legal themed in various aspects but is more like a “dramatic production” done as bread and circuses for the masses than is it any legitimate public interest being served by a valid constitutional due process having actual oversight by honest judges. In Floriduh the judges in the courts are simply agents for the state and the judges job is to try every way possible to deliver what the state wants. It is only when the process becomes so absurdly corrupt that it becomes a public spectacle where even a jury can’t be blind to the FRAUD that the state fails to get what it wants by the railroading on another accused, where the circumstance I would believe holds true in most cases is that an accused simply did not have the resources to fight a corrupt state which succeeded in nearly every case at securing a conviction because every corrupt means was used to win at any cost and then call the outcome of what the state knows is a wrongful conviction, to be “justice” that was obtained Floriduh style. Anyone who thinks there is justice can be gotten in Floriduh legal process should be prepared to spend the fortune necessary to bribe all the right people so that the quality of justice obtained is the best justice that money can buy.

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      • waltherppk says:

        Yes it is a problem when evidence alteration extends to evidence destruction by deletion of files that are digital evidence. It actually does cause an evidence authentication issue which can cause the evidence to become inadmissible due to evidence tampering by the police, and not due to the possibility that any family of the deceased may have accessed the phone. Once that phone had been collected as evidence by the police at the scene of a homicide, it was evidence thereafter in the custody and control of the state, no matter to whom it was handed subsequently. The evidence alteration then becomes the problem for the police mishandling of the evidence, which is reaonable to believe was deliberate. So there exists a Brady violation to conceal the evidence tampering. If there had been an unfavorable outcome for Zimmerman at the trial, then the evidence tampering would have be grounds for overturning the conviction on appeal due to the Brady violation done to conceal evidence tampering. The evidence tampering and the Brady violation to conceal it was simply a gamble of the state done to stack the deck against the accused, calculating that there would be no Ben Kruidbos to come forward and expose the prosecutorial misconduct of the police acting in a criminal conspiracy to violate the constitutional right of the accused to due process. The conspiracy to violate civil rights of Zimmerman by the evidence tampering and the Brady violation to conceal it, is a federal felon crime under RICO and civil rights law. So this exposes the criminality that is institutional in Florida government and it happens all the time. This is how Florida does business and not just an isolated example of corruption. It is exactly the reason that Florida has the immunity and limited liability statutes that could be called “Nifong laws” to try to avoid paying up when receiving the bill from those the state has trampled.

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    • Springtreet says:

      At one point, the defense said the phone connected to a different cell tower … which of course would not match Trayvon’s halftime Skittles walk. And, the police said their review of the street security cameras had “no evidentiary value” … so … they didn’t see Trayvon walking anywhere!
      The “responsible” cousin (Boobie) told the police he drove Trayvon to the 7/11 to get “blunts” on Sunday morning BUT he also texted that the last time he saw Trayvon was Saturday night when they were pictured getting high (somewhere). When Trayvon was not at Brandi’s Monday morning, the first person his father called was Boobie … and then Tracy miraculously knew Trayvon came in the “back gate” and had exactly $22 in his wallet (which was not found on the body).
      The only explanation that makes sense is Trayvon was actually driving around with Boobie during the missing 30 minutes … when Jenteel couldn’t explain where Trayvon was … mail thingy, dripping, etc. etc.
      I would look again at the street security footage (and red light cameras) and see if the same borrowed family car was going by. Then I’d ask George if the first hooded, stone washed blue jeans, buttoned, early twenties – late teens, looks black, (not tall like Trayvon) figure he barely saw … looks just like the guy standing next to Brandi in the first released Martin family picture or just like a homophobe who would put his hand in his pants, circle George’s car, then skip back to his violent cousin on Brandi’s porch … to have HIM go back (in tan pants) and sucker punch some crazy ass-cracker.
      The GPS data had to disappear.

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      • nomorebsplease says:

        The getting high photo was brandis garage. Meaning little chad was supervised by them. Nice

        Also listen to what tracy says in his missing person call on mon morning.

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      • Be Ge says:

        Most people would keep GPS receiver disabled except when explicitly turned on (such as from a map/navigation application). The GPS chip eats up too much of the battery, which does not seem to be all that great a battery on that particular phone, the Huawei IDEOS U8150 / T-Mobile Comet. Unless Google has it wrong, it is 1200mAh Li-Ion. The phone is powered by Android 2.2, which is not at all that great a power-saving OS (as compared to Android 4 or iOS). WIth the GPS chip turned on on a constant basis what will happen — is the phone will not be able to function in “take it off the charger in the morning and placed it back there to charge in the evening” mode. It will likely die in the middle of the day. The only “implicit” turn-on of the GPS/A-GPS chip is very likely the one initiated by the network during a 911 call for better location information (unless some spying software is somehow installed on the phone).
        That said — I have my doubts about GPS tracks existing out there on that phone in the first place.

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    • Stormy says:

      Excellent work, LJP!

      HOW did I miss the fact that this phone was signed in by “Jackie Blue” on 3/22/12, and signed in again by “Jackie Blue” on Jan 18th ? 🙄

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        LOL Her parents must have either been big fans of the Daredevils, or had a devilish sense of humor. This song brings back memories for me, and immediately came to mind when Jackie’s name first surfaced. Thanks for linking it.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Maybe I’m just a total cynic and skeptic, but I do not believe the entire history that chronicles the evidence escapades associated with the phone. I believe the police collected that phone as evidence at the scene of a homicide and within hours had busted that phone wide open using Cellebrite, and I believe they had all the GPS data too, very early in the investigation. There was a decision made that the evidence was not what was wanted to be found and was never going to see the light of day, and then an elaborate fraud was constructed concerning the phone. The truth is something that was never put down on paper or that record was sanitized and the elaborate fictional construct which is now seen as the record is the substitute fictional version of history that redefines reality for what really happened. Oh, but that would require belief in a “conspiracy theory” which is incredible, well yeah, but given that this occurred in Florida then really it is not so incredible, when given the geography you need to put incredulity in another orbit and not be surprised at anything. Think about the “voice analysis” forensic experts that Florida with a straight face tried to present as evidence, and then ask yourself is anything really that “incredible” when Florida is the venue?

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Sorry. Due to the never ending ongoing investigation this information is sealed. Check back after all the SOL has run out.

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        • waltherppk says:

          Yes “sealing” the evidence is always a good first step in the “sunshine state” where evidence unfavorable to the state should never see the light of day, in fully implementing the sunshine laws of course. It is a first order judicial duty.

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  18. jordan2222 says:

    If George did want to pursue the sanctions hearing, who would pay the legal fees?

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  19. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    I have a REALLY long post addressing the chain of custody of the phone, and it’s travels, that just went “poof”. Is it stuck in the “Sin Bin”?

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Nevermind… It has now appeared!

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    • sundance says:

      I dug it out 😉

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    • rumpole2 says:

      I am glad it escaped. 😀

      Thanks for that… well worth the length. This stuff is long and complicated…
      I hope you don’t mind if I pinch it and post at RT

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Have at it. Just like SD says about what he writes here, I also give my permission for anyone to use anything I write here, without any need to credit it back to me. 🙂

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      • scaretactics says:

        Yes…great post LJP. I learned a lot.

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          And, believe it or not, that post doesn’t even touch on all of the controversy surrounding the phone, and how it was largely ignored by the defense. For instance, why didn’t the defense request access to the phone much sooner? Why did they wait until almost 9 months after the shooting to investigate the GPS data that the phone should have contained? Or, why didn’t the defense “push” for information about whether the law office of Ben Crump was actively inhibiting access to the phone by instructing Tracy and/or Sybrina to withhold the PIN? Certainly seems to me that this alone would amount to an “obstruction” charge in a murder investigation.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            And, wasn’t there something weird about Officer Blue checking the phone in as a “flip phone”?

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            • LetJusticePrevail" says:

              Yes, that was a curious thing, that she would describe it as a “flip phone” when it (most obviously) was not. It makes one wonder if that was a simple error in her choice of words, or if there’s something more to be asked. And, what’s more important, why didn’t the defense pounce on that detail? You would think they would have made a “big deal” out of this, if they were truly intent on providing the most vigorous defense that they possibly could. Could the answer be that the defense did not want to discredit the phone as evidence, since doing so could “taint” anything exculpatory found on the phone? Or, could it be that the defense simply did not want to make another direct accusation of possible evidence tampering by the state? Those could be good questions to ask O’Mara some day. (I find it hard to believe he didn’t know about this discrepancy, since it was discussed here at length, and we know his team was reading here.)

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              • jordan2222 says:

                LJP: There were a lot of other issues about the phone (s) that were discussed here that have never been resolved. The flip phone mistake only added to the questions about there being two phones.

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            • jordan2222 says:

              I remember that there was a lot of animated discussion about that phone including the possibility that there were 2 phones. Someone here (waltherpk, maybe) asked me to send an email to MOM about how to get the GPS information. He never answered me.

              JFP also had some things to add to our discussion.

              So even now, we still have many unanswered questions and it became serious enough to prompt a sanctions hearing.

              Who has the phone now?

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              • LetJusticePrevail" says:

                Eric Holder and the DoJ demanded that all of the evidence from this case be forwarded to them for use in their “investigation” so I would imagine that Holder is in physical possession of the phone, itself. But that doesn’t mena he got the copy of the BIN file that was given to the defense. That file contained ALL the info that was on the phone, and it in its original unaltered state. Even without the phone, itself, that file would be enough to provide a detailed report of what was deleted from the phone, and most likely could provide the necessary clues to determine “when” it was deleted.

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          • jordan2222 says:

            LJP: I can only think of one reason as to “why.” They did not want to know.

            What else could it be? That would prompt a second question. Why didn’t they want to know?

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            • LetJusticePrevail" says:

              That’s what I was thinking, too. And I have the very same question. Why?

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              • jordan2222 says:

                Many of us here have the same nagging questions. What I wonder is if George knows the answers to all of those questions.

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                • LetJusticePrevail" says:

                  He might, but since his case ended with an acquittal, he really has no reason to answer them. In fact, Holder’s phony “investigation” gives George every reason to remain silent. And, he has no real obligation to pursue anything against BDLR based solely on “principle” and only needs the sanctions “issue” to come to a conclusion so that his suit against NBC can proceed.

                  But, I do have one thing I believe is worth mentioning, or asking. Why do the “sanctions” proceedings depend on a decision by George? The legality of BDLR’s behavior is external to the case of George Zimmerman. Who placed the ball “in George’s court? The motion for sanctions was already legally filed, and the hearing of it was postponed by Debra Nelson, not George Zimmerman, or even Mark O’Mara. And wasn’t it Debra Nelson who said that George had “No further business before this court”?

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                • jordan2222 says:

                  Well, she either forgot about the sanctions hearing or had no intentions of allowing it to proceed. What else could she have meant? When she postponed the hearing, George had already made the decision. Why would he have to make that same decision again? Makes no sense to me.

                  This is even more confusing in light of her postponing the NBC suit until after the sanctions hearing. Isn’t the sanctions hearing her decision? Seems to me that she should set a date with a notice to all parties: Be there or be square. I asked SD a question about who will pay the attorney’s fees for representing George but George has no money to pay anyone unless it is done on a contingency fee basis. Can George retain anyone other than MOM/West?

                  Let’s say Nelson does the right thing and rules that sanctions are in order, what will they look like? What’s in it for George? Would any money be involved? If not, he may not want to proceed but would that prevent him from pursuing the NBC suit? Has Nelson put him into a box or trapped him?

                  Maybe I am missing something here? I still do not see how the NBC suit depends upon the completion of the sanctions hearing. What’s the legal relationship? I do not recall Nelson citing any case law by making such a ruling.

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                • LetJusticePrevail" says:

                  Responding here to your post below since it has no reply button:

                  “..or had no intentions of allowing it to proceed..

                  Yes. This. She hasn’t forgotten, but she hopes the public will forget, and that her inane rulings will force George to drop the sanctions motions.

                  “…in light of her postponing the NBC suit until after the sanctions hearing…”

                  Initially it was a mutual decision between Beasley and NBC to delay the suit until after George’s trial, but it is Nelson, alone, who is now refusing to hear the NBC suit until the matter of sanctions is ended. But it’s an obfuscation since, as I pointed out, the two are separate issues, now joined only by her edict. O’Mara filed the original motion, but curiously has not petitioned for the matter to be resumed. Now, O’Mara appears to be claiming that since George was the victim of Bernie’s schemes, that he can’t proceed without a green light from George, but I don’t believe that’s correct. I believe O’Mara can proceed, but won’t. And I don’t believe it’s simply a matter of money, either.

                  The whole thing smells like a scheme to get the motion for sanctions withdrawn, to protect all parties (the entire 4th district SAO, Nelson, and the defense team) involved.

                  “Can George retain anyone other than MOM/West?”

                  While George might have been able to get an attorney to defend him pro bono in the dust up with Samantha Scheibe, I doubt that he can get one who doesn’t already have any “skin in the game” to go after Corey’s office.

                  As others here have noted, Corey is quite vindictive, and has the ear of Pam Bondi. Any attorney attacking her could find himself at odds not only with her, but the entire weight of the state machine, and.probably the “pinkie ring” clique as well. That leaves O’Mara. He wants his money for the trial, but doesn’t really want to upset the “status quo” in the FL legal system. What better way to get both, than to refuse to proceed? That puts George in the position of requesting the motions for sanctions to be withdrawn, just so he can proceed against NBC. And Nelson’s unreasonable edict about not hearing the NBC suit until the sanctions issue is decided is what gives this scheme legs.

                  ” Has Nelson put him into a box or trapped him?”

                  Maybe. The Beasley Firm is certain to file additional motions to proceed, and file a petition with the court of appeals when Nelson stands firm. And I believe she will, because Nelson is involved in a cover up of what she allowed to occur in her court room. That’s her “skin in the game”. I’m surprised they haven’t been more forceful by now but, as others pointed out, civil matters often proceed very slowly. Especially when they involve BIG money, like NBC.

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  20. Lou says:

    SD is a hero IMO. I know he may not like that status, but he has been a hero for truthseekers all around the world when it comes to this case.

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  21. bstannehill says:

    Don’t get me wrong, these cases are not at all similar, Dunn is definitely guilty of second degree murder, but as Sundance spoke of before, it’s this self fulfilling prophecy that’s bound to turn into complete bloodshed. When you are used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.

    Will we ever be able to get back to a balance?

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    • Ponderingobserver says:

      I doubt that will happen for a very long time. I just hope we can stop this trend of focusing the most outrage on people who shoot out of fear rather than people who kill others with malice and forethought for greed, hate or sadistic pleasure.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I’m not positive that “Dunn is definitely guilty of second degree murder” but I see your point about how the absence of preferential treatment seems (to some) like discrimination. But, as to the bloodshed, we already have it, and it’s being advocated daily as members of the BGI continue to “double down” by constantly insinuating that the lack of a verdict on the actual murder charge amounts to an “open season” on blacks. The violence is already here, and HAS been for quite some time. It’s just not being reported as such by the media.

      As for re-establishing “balance”, that depends on the SCOTUS, and whether they are willing to “take the steam” out of the BGI by rendering decisions that defeat the notion of “disparate impact” and eliminate the concept of “protected classes” who are (allegedly) “entitled” to preferential treatment. Barring the elimination of these incentives for the BGI to press on, there never will be any “balance”.

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      • jordan2222 says:

        Sundance wrote a detailed article about this quite a while ago:
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        As for re-establishing “balance”, that depends on the SCOTUS, and whether they are willing to “take the steam” out of the BGI by rendering decisions that defeat the notion of “disparate impact” and eliminate the concept of “protected classes” who are (allegedly) “entitled” to preferential treatment. Barring the elimination of these incentives for the BGI to press on, there never will be any “balance”.

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  22. Lou says:

    I remember thinking the closing arguments would be so weak by MOM or DW. looking back though, MOM had one of the best closing arguments in the history of closing arguments. if Trayvon’s hidden brother gets exposed, it will be new news. If the media calculates how much money Sybrina has made, it will be new news. If Tracy “Fruit” Martin gets exposed in those text messages, it will be new news. If the media starts speaking about who deleted the hidden Trayvon video/texts, it will be new news. There is so much that can be new news. I just wonder why the media doesn’t want to expose this. I’ve been told by friends that one day Sybrina will be exposed, but it hasn’t happened yet. I feel hopeless. Meanwhile, the media is covering the kid wrapped up in the gym mats like there is no tomorrow.

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  23. rumpole2 says:

    It seems George appreciates the piece, Sundance…

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  24. Burnt Toast says:

    Modern smart-phones, though phones first, are more analogous to electronic journals to save and review pics, vids, notes, schedules, texts, books, etc.

    Certainly if a dead man was found with a big book of personal letters and photographs created up to moments before his death, that book would be of no small relevance.

    Here our big book is written is some strange script that few can read – but the prosecutor employs one who can read it and provide ‘translations’ which can be read by all – is that translation really a “work product” or is just what it always was, and is, records found at the scene of a crime?

    IANAL, let them argue that.

    But is Corey really arguing that tearing out pages from that book, deleting entries in that journal are “work product”? Is she REALLY arguing that destroying evidence, no matter how trivial, is “work product”?

    Because if that is true she and her whole cabal should be given the max sentence for the 2nd murder they tried to frame GZ for.

    And no time off for good behavior… and no solitary… they can hang out in the yard with the others they probably framed in the past.

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  25. clash108 says:

    If I was a betting man, I would put money there are others who work under Corey who have witnessed similar wrongdoings under her dictatorship, but fear that whistle-blowing will ruin their lives You blow that whistle, you’re fired.. There are too many toadies under her.right now to back her corruption. That is why this case is so important, and Kruidbos represents the little engine that could, fighting the monster trying to railroad him. This is going to be a long, tough fight, and I hope Kruidbos can go the distance.

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    • sundance says:

      Oh I’d wager you are absolutely correct on that bet.

      From all the conversations I have engaged upon in/around the 4th SAO, Angela Corey is exactly as you describe…. Very vindictive person.

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      • scaretactics says:

        I cannot stand this wench. I hope she goes to prison for a long, long time while our George, meanwhile, basks in the sun surrounded by family and friends on his own private island. Karma.

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        • AdukeLAXobserver says:

          She won’t even get sentenced to the night in jail Nifong did. Sadly I don’t even see her getting disbarred.

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          • waltherppk says:

            The chances of winning a bar complaint in Florida are about like the chances of winning the Florida lottery. Look at the conduct of Crump for example, do you really think there is any realistic chance he will be sanctioned by the bar for any ethical misconduct? The chances are remote to non-existent there would be sanctions and the only way it would happen is if politics, not law or ethics, was governing. The bar will do what is politically expedient regarding a complaint against a lawyer, and rarely will throw a comrade under the bus unless a situation so outrageous arises there is no politically correct choice but to do something. So long as a complaint can be given perfunctory treatement and dismissed as being without merit, that is exactly what will be done in keeping with the strong presumption or virtually unrebuttable presumption that such pillars of the community as would be an officer of the court or any other agent of the state, are incapable of error for which they ought to be accountable, and are generally regarded as being above the law or any real oversight, so they do as they please with impunity. The extent of that double standard is virtually without limit for a Florida “untouchable”.

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    • nivico says:

      There was something a bit off about Mantei during the trial that made me feel maybe he wasn’t perfectly comfortable with what the prosecution team was doing…

      There’s an interesting article on him from his hometown newspaper… mentions that Mantei is the director of the Special Prosecution Unit that handles public corruption.

      Oh the irony…

      http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2013/07/25/Ex-area-man-prosecuted-Zimmerman-Copy.html#fr0C9RzCErMW23Kl.99

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        I’m curious. What about Mantei’s behavior seemed “off” to you? Is there something in particular, or is this just a general feeling on your part?

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        • nivico says:

          I just didn’t get the same ‘in for a penny, in for a pound’ sense of loyalty to the state’s case that I got from Guy, BDLR, and Corey… you could tell his heart wasn’t in it and he seemed somewhat frustrated at times to even be there.

          And his trying to tack on “child abuse” charges there at the end… he KNEW the state didn’t have a case for murder. He also knew the jury was under immense pressure to find George guilty of something. Was he trying to throw the jury a bone (another much less serious option) so they wouldn’t wrongly convict an innocent of the more serious charge of murder?

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          • LetJusticePrevail" says:

            At the time, I felt that Mantei wasn’t trying to offer the jury an “out”, but that’s an interesting line of thought. As I recall, there was some sort of ploy afoot here that would give the state an opportunity to actually enhance the penalties that could be delivered to George if he was found guilty of one of the lesser included charges, but the specifics escape me at this moment

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        • rumpole2 says:

          Arrogant, condescending, patronising, devious, smarmy… and I’m just scratching the surface (from memory).
          I would say… look up “slime-ball” and copy/paste all synonyms.

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          • LetJusticePrevail" says:

            Yes, but that pretty much describes all of the prosecutors, including BDLR, Guy, and (especially) Corey. While at times Mantei seemed a little “at sea” in his arguments, I never got the impression that he wasn’t behind the prosecution 100%, as Nivico seems to believe.

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            • rumpole2 says:

              My impression was that Mantei was an “academic” lawyer…. in the State Lynch Team for GZ case he was given the job of researching (obscure) case law. A type I have met often when at University, and since. Good on theory but, but apply it in a pedantic way, and so overall in real life are a bit useless.
              I am thinking of examples I know.. Doctors of Chemical Engineering who could not boil an egg.

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      • jordan2222 says:

        To say this,he sure as hell wasn’t very observant.
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        Mr. Mantei declined to comment further on the verdict, citing personal concerns for his loved ones. But at a news conference following the jury’s decision, he spoke respectfully of the family of the dead teenager.

        “I appreciate the way that they have handled this matter,” Mr. Mantei said. “They have been dignified, they have shown class, they have kept their pain in check when they needed to, they have grieved when they needed to.”

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  26. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    I noticed that Corey’s reply makes no mention of personal “Immunity”, which I presume is due to the fact that the suit is filed against her in her official capacity, and not her, individually.

    Does this mean that White and Kruidbos have conceded this point (of personal immunity) going from here forward, or can she be pursued individually at a later date?

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  27. Stormy says:

    That proffer was SO amazing to watch…

    My personal favorite moment was the West/Conner (aka Superman/Superman) exchange when Richard Conner was asked about all of the individuals TrayThug had communicated with about purchasing guns: Conner rattles off Qua Fulton, Spoonhead Zach, Jay, Ron, Dario, and Diamond… and while thumbing through the pages of the report (and while the prosecution starts to breathe a DEEP sigh of relief) says, “and I think that’s it… uh, FRUIT… I don’t think I mentioned FRUIT. Followed by an ever-so-descreet smile at West.

    Game.Set.Match.

    The list starts about 24:21, and the sly smile is about 25:15.

    Sundance also covered this in a post during the trial: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/07/21/richard-conner-the-expert-who-panicked-nelson-worth-re-watching-his-testimony/

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  28. waltherppk says:

    Here is the theme song for Angela Corey and the FDLE forensics evidence lab which is like the “kitchen” where someone is doing something unspeakable with Dinah, and singing with joy about it.

    Compare to the theme song of Ben Kruidbos who stands for Truth, Justice, and The American Way

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  29. waltherppk says:

    Kudos to Ben Kruidbos for standing up for Truth, Justice, and The American Way
    And shame on Florida for the dishonest, dishonorable shenanigans that it does to work evil upon good men of conscience and integrity. We have all seen this movie before, with the same arch villains and the same heroes. The state of Florida should pin a medal on Ben Kruidbos and put Angela Corey and BDLR on the bricks. Maybe Angela could get a job as a housekeeper and maid for Alan Dershowitz, and BDLR could become a sun hat salesman on the beach. Why that hasn’t happened tells the story on Florida corruption.

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    • ytz4mee says:

      Kudos to Ben Kruidbos for standing up for Truth, Justice, and The American Way

      Uh, yeah ….. let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Kruidbos and White’s activities are not so much about “Truth, Justice and the American Way” as they are about self-preservation. Don’t forget neither of them were “recent hires” at the SAO Jax, so the CoreyFong antics were known to them well before this case. It’s just with the external extra sets of eyeballs that various independent blogs (the CTH being only one of many) were casting on the shenanigans of the St. Skittles circus, White bailed and Kruidbos “found Jesus” after he was canned.

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      • waltherppk says:

        The thief on the cross who finds Jesus late and chooses wisely still goes to heaven. It’s those others that choose poorly and miss the boat that go to the other place.

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  30. Americans are so convinced that they have the world’s best judicial system that it is unthinkable that they would considerer doing things differently. You wouldn’t have the situation described in this thread if an Investigative Judge ran the police investigation from the get-go and was in charge of preparing the dossier of evidence that both sides will use at trial. Of course sometimes those Investigative Judges are crooked or incompetent but at least you don’t have guaranteed corruption like you have in the US where the problem is compounded by electing prosecutors and judges. Also you can appeal judges’ decisions before trial as Sarkozy did in his corruption case. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-22/sarkozy-rejects-claims-of-wrongdoing-in-bettencourt-case-appeal.html

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  31. waltherppk says:

    Goerge Zimmerman could have been just another dead victim of a successfully executed polar bear hunt, but chose to take a 9mm exception with being the mark of the “game”. The cops knew this and would never publish it is the simple truth any more than they could call watermelon juice what it was even at the trial but had to be politically correct and call it “iced tea” instead. One “BIG LIE” racist propaganda is engrained in this case from the jump, used to cover up the ugly truth of what occurred. Florida constructed a race hate crime myth to try to explain in different terms the killing of someone who was “too black” and too thuggish by another person who wasn’t “black enough” to make it a racially neutral and politically correct self defense homicide, and then it was off to the circus which followed.

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  32. arttart1983 says:

    Sundance ~ what an outstanding contribution on the back story, I have had such a hard time getting information on all the particulars on BK’s case, thanks for putting the information together for us but it leads us to more questions as you point out at the conclusion of your article. I continue to hold my breath that Corey doesn’t somehow get BK’s case dismissed, though there was an “investigator” assigned to BK’s case since BK was a whistle blower, I remain skeptical that the investigator too works for the State, just like Corey & BDLR.

    Had Corey’s own attorney not found the “Brady Material” Corey with held in emails in Julie Lyncker’s “wrongful termination” case & turned them over to Lyncker’s attorney, Lyncker would have had a more difficult time proving her case as Corey had painted Lyncker as the “vamp” & had other employees in her office ready to testify against Lyncker. Corey could have reassigned Lyncker to another office, but Corey’s vindictiveness imo clouds her judgement, she chooses to go for the maximum pain she can inflict & not only did it blow up in Corey’s face, it exposed again how corrupt Corey is to the public. The Judge gave Corey a well deserved bitch slap on the Brady Material, Corey was forced imo to settle the case w/Lyncker because Corey’s office was exposed yet again. I am patiently waiting to read the settlement amount Lyncker recieved from Corey’s office.

    My fear remains for BK, Corey’s office employees seem united in supporting Corey/BLDR & are willing to lie/cover for the injustices they have committed in countless cases imo. Lyncker had an honest attorney that represented Corey that stepped forward w/the “with held Brady Material” turning it over to her attorney that exposed Corey, will BK have an honest ally that too will step forward exposing Corey/BDLR on the cell phone evidence to help BK? I pray so.

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