UNREAL: Unarmed But Legal Florida CCW Gun Owner Drives Through Maryland – Then It Goes Downhill….

UPDATE: We have submitted a public records request and received confirmation (see bottom)

John Filippidis, showing the pistol he sometimes carries in his pocket, recounted a story of being stopped by a Maryland police officer recently.TAMPA TRIBUNE  – John Filippidis, silver-haired family man, business owner, employer and taxpayer, is also licensed to carry a concealed firearm.

He’d rather he didn’t feel the need, “but things aren’t like they used to be. The break-ins, the burglaries, all the crime. And I carry cash a lot of the time. I’m constantly going to the bank.

“I wanted to be able to defend my family, my household and the ground I’m standing on. But I’m not looking for any trouble.”

Filippidis keeps his gun — a palm-sized Kel-Tec .38 semiautomatic, barely larger than a smartphone in a protective case — in one of two places, always: in the right-hand pocket of his jeans, or in the safe at home.

“There are kids in the house,” Filippidis says, “and I don’t think they’d ever bother with it, but I don’t want to take any chances.”

He’s not looking for any trouble, after all.

Trouble, in fact, was the last thing on his mind a few weeks back as the Filippidises packed for Christmas and a family wedding in Woodridge, N.J., so he left the pistol locked in the safe. The state of Florida might have codified his Second Amendment rights, but he knew he’d be passing through states where recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions affirming the rights of individuals to keep and bear arms have been met by hostile legislatures and local officials.

“I know the laws and I know the rules,” Filippidis says. There are, after all, ways gun owners can travel legally with firearms through hostile states. “But I just think it’s a better idea to leave it home.”

So there the Filippidises were on New Year’s Eve eve, southbound on Interstate 95 — John; wife Kally (his Gulf High sweetheart); the 17-year-old twins Nasia and Yianni; and 13-year-old Gina in their 2012 Ford Expedition — just barely out of the Fort McHenry Tunnel into Maryland, blissfully unarmed and minding their own business when they noticed they were being bird-dogged by an unmarked patrol car.

It flanked them a while, then pulled ahead of them, then fell in behind them.  CONTINUE READING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

———————— UPDATE: 1/15/14  ———————-

Mr. XXXXXXXXXXX, your PIA request has been received and forwarded to the appropriate parties.

1st Sergeant Jonathan Green
Public Information Officer
Office of the Chief – Media Relations
Maryland Transportation Authority Police
4330 Broening Highway
Baltimore, Maryland21222-2258
Office 410-537-7724
Cell 410-977-5772
FAX 410-537-7700
jgreen1@mdta.maryland.gov
http://www.mdta.maryland.gov/police/policemain.html
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From: thelastrefuge@reagan.com [mailto:thelastrefuge@reagan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:10 PM
To: Jonathan Green(Police)
Subject: Public Records Request – Maryland Public Information Act, State Government Article §§10-611 to 630

1st Sergeant Jonathan Green
Public Information Officer
Maryland Transportation Authority Police
Media Relations
4330 Broening Highway
Baltimore, MD 21222

Dear Mr. Green,

by way of introduction I am a research analyst currently doing research surrounding an MTAP officer motor vehicle stop on 12/31/13 on Southbound I-95 involving motorist Mr. John Filippidis.

The MTAP contact incident is outlined in the following Tampa Tribune story:

http://tbo.com/list/columns-tjackson/jackson-gun-owner-unarmed-unwelcome-in-maryland-20140112/

The purpose of my contact with you today is to request public records surrounding this incident.

This is a request under the Maryland Public Information Act, State Government Article §§10-611 to 630. I am making this request on my own behalf.

I wish to receive all records in your department’s custody and control pertaining to the following:

(A) the record/incident report, outlining the initial infraction which led to the traffic stop in question – and all subsequent written documentation pertaining to the encounter/traffic stop; and

(B) a recorded copy of the full Police Band radio transmission (between initial officer and all subsequent officers) as it pertains to the initial officer contact with the vehicle, to the stoppage, search, detention and subsequent release; and

(C) a copy of the dash camera recording for the initial MTAP officer encounter with the vehicle of Mr. John Filippidis (if available) during the entire timeframe of encounter with the vehicle, personage, and family of: Mr. John Filippidis, outlined in the traffic stop in question; and

(D) the full contact information for any other police, state or local agency who also responded to the traffic stop in question.

If all or any part of this request is denied, I request that I be provided with a written statement of the grounds for the denial.

If you determine that some portions of the requested records are exempt from disclosure, please provide me with the portions that can be disclosed.

Please advise me as to the cost, if any, for receiving the records described above.

I anticipate that there may be additional records requests based on initial review. If you have adopted a fee schedule for obtaining copies of records and other rules or regulations implementing the Act, please send me a copy.

I look forward to receiving disclosable records promptly and, in any event, to a decision about all of the requested records within 30 days.

Thank you in advance for your assistance and cooperation. If you have any questions regarding this request, please contact me via the following: (email preferred)

XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX / Research Analyst

http://www.thelastrefuge@reagan.com

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89 Responses to UNREAL: Unarmed But Legal Florida CCW Gun Owner Drives Through Maryland – Then It Goes Downhill….

  1. mung says:

    Crazy. I few into there with my kel-tec and drove out the next day. I had it locked in a case with the clip separate and both were in the trunk. I was still worried that I might get crap if I got pulled over. I was very careful. Now it probably did help that I was driving a car with MD plates at the time.

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  2. Coast says:

    Can you find out who the officer was and the phone number of his dept/boss?

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    • sundance says:

      In the works. 😉

      I want to know the Public Information Officer too. I plan to file a public records request for those radio transmissions and/or dashcam for responding vehicles.

      http://www.mdta.maryland.gov/Police/Police_Main.html

      I want to know what was the justification for the original pulling him over – I want to hear what took place before, during and after.

      1st Sergeant Jonathan Green
      Public Information Officer
      Maryland Transportation Authority Police
      Media Relations
      4330 Broening Highway
      Baltimore, MD 21222
      410-537-7724 (phone)
      jgreen1@mdta.maryland.gov (email)

      http://www.mdta.maryland.gov/Police/Media_Relations.html

      I also have a call in to the Maryland Tourism Board….. Would like to get their “on the record” perspective before MSM picks up this story.

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      • rashomon says:

        You might copy Dan Bongino, who is running for Congress in Maryland’s 6th district. He’s former NYPD and member of the Secret Service, certainly well-versed in law enforcement issues. His most recent blog (one day ago) covers firearm restrictions in Maryland.

        bongino.com

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        • Partyzant says:

          Dan Bongino is an occasional guest host on WMAL, a conservative talk radio and news program at 105.9 FM in Washington, DC.
          I have no affiliation with the radio station, its staff or owners.

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      • Coast says:

        thanks…

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      • monica says:

        His name is officer Greg Day of the maryland transport authority police.

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  3. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    FTA

    “Now, despite having fielded apologies from the officer’s captain as well as from a Maryland Transportation Authority Police internal affairs captain, John is wondering if he shouldn’t just cancel his CCW license.”

    And that is the EXACT response these nazis want. If they can’t legislate our rights away, they will try to make us afraid to even exercise them. Intimidation. Pure and simple.

    FIGHT BACK. RESIST any temptation to relinquish your rights.

    They don’t want you to keep your firearm? BUY TWO!

    They don’t want you to own a pistol? BUY AN AR-15, TOO!

    They don’t want you to defend yourself? GET A CCW AND CARRY EVERYWHERE YOU CAN STILL LEGALLY DO IT!

    And every time you are illegally challenged by these nazis, GO PUBLIC WITH IT!

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    • Partyzant says:

      Good points, all!
      This event takes Maryland completely off my dance card until the regime in Annapolis is removed. I now expect any Md PD or state trooper to ask me if my papers are in order…

      I was looking for the money quote from the charachter “Toht”, from Raiders of the Lost Ark. Cannot find that masterful clip. So timely.

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  4. AdukeLAXobserver says:

    (Ninety minutes later, or maybe it was two hours — “It felt like forever,” Kally says — no weapon found and their possessions repacked, the episode ended … with the officer writing out a warning.)

    Issued a warning for what? There was no violation of any law. I am all for cops giving people breaks with warning tickets but this guy did nothing to even warrant a warning ticket. The NRA needs to get in touch with this guy and get him a lawyer so he can sue the state.

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    • Coast says:

      Perhaps the “warning” just added more evidence as to the cop’s illegal activity…Let’s hope this “officer” is flipping burgers in the near future.

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      • Partyzant says:

        He was lucky they did not treat him like a “King”… Rodney, that is. They hate it when the proletariat get out of order. Sometimes, they just need to make an example or to stay fresh for training purposes.

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        • AdukeLAXobserver says:

          He probably would have if he could have figured out how to turn off his dash cam without getting in trouble.

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        • George says:

          Do you think the Rodney King thing is a good example? We all thought Rodney King was a victim based on the edited video. After his hearing the ENTIRE video was played and we all wondered why he was alive. He beat the crap out of the cops, for a while.

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        • Yaspar Kyashred says:

          No, he’s lucky they didn’t treat him like a Reginald Denny. King got off easy.

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  5. ed357 says:

    Sue the organization and the officer personally……

    Let there be no quarter shown…..

    they will show you no mercy…..

    This is a war of ideologies.

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  6. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    AND, while I’m on a rant, just a few OTHER thoughts to add:

    1) Of all the cars on the road that day, why was this one car singled out? If, as the driver says, and the lack of any citation seems to support, there were no traffic violations committed, why stop THIS car, instead of any other? Profiling based on the Florida plates? What made THIS car worthy of attention, to begin with?

    2) What was the “probable cause” or “reasonable suspicion” for this driver to be stopped, if he had committed no traffic infractions, was properly licensed, his vehicle properly equipped and tagged, and no arrest warrants were outstanding for the registered owner? The unwarranted initial attention is inexplicable in the first place, but then to escalate the matter by stopping the vehicle? Why? By what authority?

    3) How did the initial officer determine that the driver owned a firearm? Did he simply believe this because the driver showed his CCW (intentionally or accidentally)? Did he believe this because he completed a records check with the state of Florida? (IIRC Florida’s law prevents the release of information about CCW holders) Or did he learn this through some OTHER database that records guns purchases, ammo purchases, CCW holders, or background checks when CCW’s are applied for?

    4) Now, since there was no crime in progress, and the driver had a valid FL CCW, what reason was there to initially ask where his weapon was, and then continue to question other passenger as to the whereabouts of a legally owned weapon? What justifies this line of questioning?

    Answers, anyone?

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    • mung says:

      CCW status shows up on Florida records when they pull your plate or drivers license. I am sure since it is on the Florida system it is shared with any approved organization who looks it up.

      If I were him, I would have insisted that the supervising officer was brought to the scene. Something along the lines of “sir there seems to be some miscommunication between us, would you please have your supervisor come out here and help us work through our communication issues”. If he refused, it would look worse on him, if the supervisor came out and didn’t smack the officer upside the head and actually supported his actions, the department would be in much worse shape, because it would be beyond, one officer that needed more training.

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      • JAS says:

        Not exactly, for Florida anyway. I know because I have a Florida LEO in the family. Unless things have changed recently the CCW information is available to him, but it’s in a separate database from the license and registration one. And the database records accesses to it. The CCW database is run by the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. I would be extremely surprised if out of state LEOs have access to that information, especially in states with no CCW reciprocity. There is no reciprocity with MD.

        Maybe he had a 2A or firearm manufacturer’s bumper or window sticker? Even if the guy is a CCW permit holder the database doesn’t track guns per se, just licensing info.

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        • Good point. Concealed means concealed. And that’s why I don’t put any bumper stickers on my car. You never know what might trigger someone to take an interest in you.
          Not that he had any stickers, from what the reports say, but why attract any attention to begin with?

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    • czarowniczy says:

      (1) Out of state car, especially from Florida, a state that has a CCW law that allows non-residents to get CCWs. Cop probably did a routine plate check. Out of state cars make nice ticket targets, especially in ‘compact’ states as you’re sure they won’t fight the ticket in local court and they have to pay it or lose their license in their home state.
      (2) We refereed to traffic stops as ‘probable cause’. You see a car that made you itchy it’s a snap to pull a reason to stop out of your…ummm…repertoire of reasons. Too easy to even comment further on.
      (3) In most CCW states (maybe all) your CCW is tied to your driver’s license. Makes it easier for any cop in state who pulls you over to know you may have a gun and you have permission to carry. My Mississippi CCW has my DL# on it and some states make your CCW an addition to your regular license just like motorcycle or school bus. For a while back Florida CCW holders had their CCW status and their personal info splashed all over the internet for anyone to look up – they changed that. Also, let’s say you’re in a state that allows you to carry with your state’s CCW – the ability to access your CCW info is a help to the state’s PDs if/when you’re stopped so they can determine your CCW’s authentic.
      (4) Lot’s of people who live in the NE strip corridor, especially NY and NJ, and have residences in FL travel the I-95. Those with their FL non-resident CCW usually carry their piece in the car somewhere. I’m betting the boilerplate questioning by the officer has the ‘are there any guns, drugs, illegal substances…etc’ spiel as part of the stop and the combination of his having the driver’s CCW pop up on the records check and his wife’s nervousness set him off as he believed the guy was lying to him and actually had a gun in the car. From the description of where he was stopped I’m presuming that he was on the I-95 and, if he did have the gun and it was secured as state laws require, he’d have coverage under Federal laws but not every state recognizes Federal gun laws. There’s a Fed law on the books that allows off-duty full-time police officers to carry their firearms out-of-jurisdiction and out-of-state. A cop in Podunk, Iowa vacationing in Florida can carry his sidearm concealed without fear of being arrested – unless he’s in NYC. NYC’s been detaining out-of-NYC LEA found carrying and confiscating their firearms. Cops I know either don’t vay-cay there or just carry a cheap piece and take their chances.

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    • afghanvet18f says:

      The NCIC check system does not issue any info on CCW, neither does a registration or drivers license check. In PA. a CCW is issued and controlled by the county sheriff and that information is not forwarded to any state or federal data bases. Something is amiss here, I believe.

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      • creeper says:

        ^^^THIS^^^
        Either that national gun registry we’ve been fighting tooth and claw to prevent already exists or we’re not getting the straight story.

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  7. Lou says:

    I’m not sure what legal action he can take, but something must be done. His wife should have just kept her mouth shut as well if she didn’t know, but I’m not taking anything away from the real culprits (poh-LESE).

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  8. Sentenza says:

    18 U.S.C. § 242 : US Code – Section 242: Deprivation of rights under color of law

    Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

    I fully expect Holder’s justice department to be all over that.

    Oh, and:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act#.22Safe_Passage.22_provision

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  9. auscitizenmom says:

    I have it. They had arrested a black guy for robbing a store and they needed a white guy to balance out the statistics. ( unhappy snark)

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  10. justfactsplz says:

    This man would have been better off if he had the weapon locked up according to the transport rules of that state. There are rules for transporting your weapon through non carry states.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Yes indeed there are, especially on a Federal road BUT that doesn’t mean an gun-hating LEA can’t stop and harass the hell out of you. Ain’t supposed to but – hey – we had people arrested, strip-searched and de-loused on an illegal left hand turn in NOLA. Problem here was that he DIDN’T have his gun, the cop thought he did and that spurred the cop on to rip the guy’s car apart. If you are caught on a state, county or city road then state/local laws come into effect and some jurisdictions don’t allow possession in your car period. Maryland does not recognize Florida CCWs, resident or not, and a technical ‘out’ for the cop from Title 18, Section 926A, of the USC might well have been his not being sure the pistol/ammunition was legal for the driver to possess in NJ. I can see a judge giving the officer a ‘bye’ if the case ever got to court – I really can’t see the judge doing anything other. Just because there’s a law doesn’t mean there ain’t a way around it that a cop can use and a judge will wave off. Sad, but that’s the way it goes.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        It is very sad that that’s the way it goes.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Life in the big city. Gotta remember that there are lots of pols and bureaucrats out there who despise CCWs and do whatever they can to circumvent the law by parsing the wording.

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          • justfactsplz says:

            I guess I have been out of the city too long. I will remember what you said.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Guns are a large gray issue and pols like ’em solid black and white. I can remember the dustup we had when the CCW was passed and the ‘no guns within X-number of feet of a school’ issue collided. There were pols sniffing the wind who wanted the exclusion law to apply to anyone with a gun in the car driving past a school on a public street – one even surfaced the question of if the exclusion applied to people who lived within the school gun exclusion zone. I’ve learned to never underestimate a politician’s or bureaucrat’s ability to turn laws into weapons.

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    • stella says:

      But he didn’t have the weapon with him. Are you suggesting that he should have taken it with him on vacation?

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        You know, the truth is in a situation like this, it can be d###ed if you do and d###ed if you don’t. When a cop is out to get you for something, he will look for something to get you for (if that makes sense).

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Yes if the transport laws for the states he entered were followed. If the state didn’t allow transport of the weapon at all then that’s another story.

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        • vietnamvet says:

          The facts of this story are … he didn’t have the weapon with him.
          What have you been smoking … ?

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          • justfactsplz says:

            Nothing illegal, lol. I just think that if he could legally transport the gun in a locked box he should have had it with him, that’s all. If the states he travelled in did not allow transport, then he did right leaving the gun at home.

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    • Not necessarily. Although US code allows for the safe passage of motorists carrying firearms if it is legal for them at their departure point and their destination, NY is notorious for arresting them anyway and ignoring the law. I see MD following their example.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Yes, MD have an agenda concerning motorists passing through with weapons. It’s not a place I want to visit or pass through.

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  11. mooney1el says:

    According to what I understand and read in the Florida Statutes, http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/790.335 , there can be no list of firearm owners and there can be nothing linking the possession of a CCW to firearm ownership. I think the officer was fishing because he knows we have many firearm owners as well as CCW holders. I am interested to learn if the guy showed his CCW, intentionally or unintentionally.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      I looked at the cite and it appears to be a prohibition of gun registration. I know Florida has to have a state database of CCWs as no state’s going to issue CCWs and not keep a record. Florida used to have its CCW issue records on-line as public info until public outrage, coupled with the threat of civil suits, made the state close it off. I have a feeler out to a retired FL LEA who’s going to see if the state has its CCW list available to interstate/Federal LEA access. He did tell me that even though he’s retired LEA he has a separate CCW to cover his touches and it does not have the same number as his DL as mine does.

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      • mooney1el says:

        You are correct, but the point is that no list or database or firearm owners is allowed by statute in Florida and there is no link between firearm ownership and driver’s license, plate or CCW. Therefore, when the officer returned to the SUV and said ” I know you have a gun”, how did he “know”? Neither the driver’s license nor the plate is connected to the Dept of Agriculture who issues CCW and maintains the database, so a routine running of the plate or license would not have returned any gun information. The LEO would have had to make a special request to the Dept of Agriculture for a database search (using driver’s name) and as I understand would have had to have had a demonstrable probable cause. What could that have possibly been? Now, I suppose since the LEO had the driver’s name, he might have been able to effect a search of the FBI database for gun purchases, but those are supposed to “disappear” after 90 days. Unless we find that the driver indicated in some way that he held a CCW or indicated he was armed, then the officer was fishing and had no authority for his actions. I am looking forward to your friend’s response

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        • mooney1el says:

          Further, even though the driver has a CCW, there is nothing to link that to gun ownership. Indeed, I know several folks that have a CCW but do not even own a firearm much less carry one. So again; how did the officer “Know”?

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        • mooney1el says:

          I re-read the article above and it states that the officer said “you own a gun, where is it” which was answered”at home, in the safe” Given that no registration of guns or gun owners is allowed by statute in Florida, how did the officer know “you own a gun”?

          I will concede that there is defacto gun registration here in Florida since the FFL’s are required to keep records, but those records are not electronically searchable.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          So am I – I can’t see a state not having a way for LEA to access a CCW database to prevent problems in IDing CCW holders if there’s a CCW related question. As a military intel person assigned to a civilian Federal LEA I could access civilian DL databases from all 50 states – the ability to get what many think is private data is not that hard. FBI usually doesn’t want to deal with having a firearms database, that’s ATF’s area and the problems associated with tracking firearms ain’t something the FBI wants on its plate. I’m betting it would rather have the onus of not being able to track any given weapon on someone else’s desk. As a MI type I was attached to ATF once and saw what kind of a headache they have tracing any firearm. As for the officer fishing, many PDs have standard spiel on a stop asking about having guns, drugs or contraband in the car. This guy may have been feeling lucky but his level of overreaction makes me think he had other reasons to play Rambo.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        My FL CCW does not have my FL DL # on it. Completely different #.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Yep, asked my retired cop bud to check his (he has the retired ability to carry but has a CCW ‘just in case’) and they are different. Mine is a separate card but has my DL on it and if I’m stopped on a traffic issue my CCW pops up when my DL’d queried – this ain’t a ‘must tell’ state.

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      • joe says:

        Perhaps antigun federal moles,most likely from doj leaked the info to maryland and other antigun states. Its probably a clandestine list,most likely kept by atf. Self defense is a God given natural right and one articulated in the bill of rights of the u.s. constitution and rogue states like maryland and new jersey,who also attack other God given rights,have no right to interfere with gun ownership on any level.

        The federal court action of 2010 ruled that maryland was such a rogue state that infringed the second amendment but that was ignored by maryland and no enforcement by the federal authorites took place. Perhaps the pending representative stultzman bill,which would federally guarantee reciprocity will be different but knowing the arrogance of maryland,that will also be ignored.

        Until the people of maryland and new jersey hit back in the way of ignoring the gun laws and other acts of disobedience such as refusing to register as has been done in connecticutt and new york,nothing will change. Hundreds of thousand of ar-15 in connecticutt and new york remain outside the new restrictive measures taken against them and those two states can do nothing about it because they cant prosecute that many people.

        And on a side note,just think of all the policing services provided by armed citizens who stop twice as many crimes as cops.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          One of the things the Feds do so well is influence the passages of laws so that they get a toe-hold in the interpretations. ATF isn’t supposed to keep a database of long gun owners but they do have a database with some in it and nothing stops them from stopping by a gunstore/gunsmith and writing down the data the seller/smith has in his files. Ask any gun store or gunsmith.
          Urbanization creates a lot of personal/interpersonal problems that get passed off to government to deal with as urbanization gives folks lotsa free time and things to enjoy in that time. The normal duties of a citizen are also passed to government by default to the point that these rights become the property of the state to interpret – try getting them back. The state can twist the individual’s understanding of how the system is supposed to work vice how it now works (usually in the favor of the bureaucrat and politi-garch). The 2nd Amendment becomes just some justification for a militia that became the Guard, self defense is now the property and determination of the State (take the beating or run away in a home invasion) and if the State can’t react in time to save you or your family it’s somehow largely your fault in the first place.
          I’m sure they’ll never get all of the ARs in CT – wonder how well they’re doing disarming the conservative in Oregon and Washington State? They will get the guns of the frightened-of-the-state crowd, the honest citizens who value their honesty over their lives and those who left a paper trail, but there will be lots of people (especially in rural and fringe suburbia) who just ain’t gonna take that leap.

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  12. JAS says:

    Read the article again and found something telling. The officer spent about 10-minutes in his car with the guy’s license and registration, Based on what I said in my prior post it seems that he might have contacted someone in Florida, either by himself or through the chain of command, that had access to the database and gave him (them) the information.

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  13. dekare says:

    I had a similar event like this happen to me. During a stop, I told the cop I was retired law enforcement. I was immediately pulled from my car and handcuffed. An hour and a half later, it was finished, with his sgt involved, and I was uncuffed and not charged with a single crime. I asked why the heck I was treated like garbage and handcuffed.
    The cop stated he cuffed me because in his experience, retired cops carry guns. But when I asked why he thought it necessary to handcuff retired cops, he stated he did so because he didn’t think I was a cop and was lying to him.
    So, which is it? Did he think I was a retired cop or not? The real reason he did this was because I informed him he was wrong about the stop, and called him out on being a rude jerk. My only real offense was pissing him off. I was polite the entire time, until he started acting like a jerk. Then I told him I was reporting his behavior to his superior. This is when he got upset and took matters into his own hands and went beyond the scope of his power and his badge, which at one point, he pointed to it, and told me this was all the power he needed to do whatever he wanted to me.

    The best part, he lied on the report and to his sgt that I was failing to obey his lawful commands. The best part, this happened in front of a bank and there is video. We are in the middle of the IA investigation right now. If the agency doesn’t do anything, I will be happy to let a jury see the video and make a decision instead of his agency.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Yep, I think I worked with him – or his twin

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      • Partyzant says:

        This is what is known as “contempt of cop”.
        This is a symptom of a larger disease of “the only ones” (only ones who get to carry mentality).

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Like I’ve said many times – police recruit from the community and you get a solid cross section of it. If you have a bad apple, or one that’s on the fence, the stress and politics of it tends to send ’em right over the edge.

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  14. ctdar says:

    What was he pulled over to begin with anyways ? An out of state plate? Wonder if he had any bumper stickers the cop disagreed with.
    I hope Mr Fillipidis sues MD & police officer personally.

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  15. Aslan's Girl says:

    Outrageous.
    I’m not sure what kind of name Filippidis is, but he should claim racial profiling just to stick it to these progs.

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  16. Partyzant says:

    I repeat myself here— take all scarey & un-PC stickers off your car, it will help in avoiding these situations. Firearm stickers scream “rob my car or house when I am not home”. Know your environment and the animals in it.

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  17. dws says:

    un B lievable. what a sad story for that man.

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  18. Moishe Pipik says:

    Wow! But that guy’s wife is an idiot.

    However, the stop itself was unwarranted.

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  19. Greenmirror says:

    Revenue Generation to obtain CCL, Revenue Generation every 3 years to continue CCL, Revenue Generation LEO trying to make his quota on out of state plates, was likely spotting for turn signals, headlights, cell phones, seat belt violation, …anything to make the stop.

    All police and politicians should be required to recite the Constitution in public as their first action on the job.

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  20. Rich Branson says:

    Here’s my two cents. What have the gun grabbers (led by the fed gun grabbers) been shouting loudest about recently…? Background checks. Any gun owner knows that if you buy a gun at a gun store you have to do a background check through NICS. NICS is run by the FBI… So, the gun grabbers have been demanding background checks to be extended to private sales, ergo gun show’s and private sales between citizens. Why are they so adamant about that? Seems inconsequential right? Well it’s not to them. Gun owners here in the states abhor the thought o a “gun registry”, registry leads to confiscation we say. The reality is, they already have their registry. They have the NICS database. They have the info on any citizen who has ever legally bought a gun. That is why they have such a hard on for background checks on private sales. It’s the only data they don’t have access to. Considering the revelations from Snowden on how we are spied on and our constitutional rights are null and void, it shouldn’t be too much of a stretch to think that they know exactly who-what-where the gun owners are…. IMHO

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    • mooney1el says:

      Background checks for purchase of firearms (NCIS) are not kept as records, they are to be used for the purchase only. The FBI has stated publicly that the information is erased within 24 hours, but I have been led to believe that the actual law gives them up to 90 days to destroy the data. Based on this (and we may be being misled by the gov’t) there is no national registry. So, using the NCIS background check for individual or private sales should not enhance their ability to register under current regulation and practice. Don’t get me wrong though, I am totally against background checks for private sales.

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      • ” The FBI has stated publicly that the information is erased within 24 hours, but I have been led to believe that the actual law gives them up to 90 days to destroy the data.’

        Ant the IRS swore, under oath, to Congress, that Lois Lerner’s “lost” emails were impossible to recover, and then “Oops! They they are!”

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  21. Lee says:

    I am a Maryland resident citizen. The MD Transportation Authority Police are different from virtually every other police department in MD. They are tasked with only ‘policing’ certain MD roads and the respective area of the road. This is very limited geography in MD, such as the tunnel that Mr. Filippidis went through.

    These cops from the MD Transportation Authority are looked down upon by even other MD cops, including the MD State Police (my cousin is a MD State Trooper). Why? Because the MD Transportation Authority cops all have a chip on their shoulder because they’re tasked with patrolling a few specific roads in MD and are basically revenue collectors.

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  22. Ellen says:

    I literally moved out of MD when they passed all those draconian gun laws last year but have to travel there several times a week. Thanks for publishing this & I look forward to hearing what they have to say about it. Should they try this with me they WILL be hit with a barrage of lawsuits.

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  23. MuzzlEnergy says:

    LAW SUIT, LAW SUIT, LAW SUIT. This is the only way this will stop. Hit them in their wallet. My understanding is that gun databases are illegal???
    How long will it be before we’re hearing the “gestapo” say:
    “Vere are your papers?” and
    “Turn ove ze veapon or you vill be shot.”

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  24. nameofthepen says:

    I logged in when I read this to say this:

    It seems to me we’re getting to the point where anyone who mentions the Constitution or the Bible as a guiding beacon in a right-vs-wrong question increasingly has become socially-acceptable “fair game” for open scorn and/or passive-aggressive trolling.

    I also personally believe that for this, we must thank the Ministry of Truth (the media) for tireless dedication to their appointed task of “social reformation” and “attitude adjustment” here in the United States of Oceania.

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  26. Junie G says:

    That’s not a .38. It’s a .380 – big difference.

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  27. Daily Beatings says:

    Florida license is different since it’s a Concealed Weapons Permit (CWP), not a CCW. That allows to you to carry other weapons that may or may not be legal in other states. For instance it is illegal to carry more than two ounces of pepper spray concealed in Florida, but if you have a CWP you can carry more. You can also carry a knife larger than a ordinary pocket knife or a billie/baton concealed. With a CWP you can carry pretty much anything except a full auto gun.

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  28. Lucy Maria says:

    All of these comments are just ridicoulous give the wife a break she didn’t know. Also why do you people care if Filippidis sues or not? This was very upsetting!

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  29. Southern Sage says:

    Give her a break? She is a dingbat who might have gotten her husband thrown in jail. We care if he sues because we believe only by filing lawsuits will these police state activities stop. How in hell did you gert on this blog?

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    • stella says:

      She was flustered and said something that she should not have said. Like most people, she was nervous when questioned by a police officer. Is there anyone here who has not spoken out of turn and wished they had not? As for the appropriateness of Lucy Maria being on this blog, she has as much right as you do to express her opinion, as long as it is respectful.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        I think you’re right, Stella. I think Mrs Filippidis was freaked out by this overly aggressive cop, and just assumed that her husband had told the cop that his gun was in the car, so she tried to answer his question as best she could. Since she had an aversion to firearms, it’s quite likely her husband didn’t discuss them with her, so she never knew he left it at home. That’s my guess anyway.

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  30. More than likely it is not some mysterious Fusion Center that discovered this information but more likely is that Florida records CCW information in driver’s license records, which are immediately accessible through the National Law Enforcement Telecommunications System (NLETS), the national system of driver’s license records that are accessible by law enforcement either through an agency’s dispatcher or in a remote terminal in the officer’s vehicle.

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  31. Tim Pruett says:

    I read most of the replies here. Doesn’t it seem to anybody else that this was an illegal search of the man’s vehicle, since the Driver said there was no weapon in the car, regardless of what any passenger might have said? What law did the man break that was sufficiently severe to allow a search of his vehicle. Oh, and by the way, if a police officer asks to search your vehicle, politely decline. They have no right to do so without your permission unless you have committed a crime.

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  32. ScranunSlim says:

    99% of “gun control” ALWAYS ends up like what the economists call “Gresham’s Law.”

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  33. Robert says:

    Oh man.

    “First Kally says, “I don’t know.” Retelling it later she says, “And that’s all I should have said.” Instead, attempting to be helpful, she added, “Maybe in the glove [box]. Maybe in the console. I’m scared of it. I don’t want to have anything to do with it. I might shoot right through my foot.””

    Wife should not speak for her husband on the issue of his gun. She just gave the police probable cause to detain him and search them.

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  35. uscca says:

    Whether John was pulled over because the police actually thought he was carrying a weapon, they got a mistaken report that he had a weapon, or it was a pfishing expedition, this man was seriously violated by those in power. I hope he will keep his cool, and his CWP, as is his right as a law-abiding citizen in Florida.

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  36. Joe says:

    New York and New Jersey are 2 states where the bad guys have more rights to shoot and kill you, that you do to protect your self. They take guns away from good law and order people. While the scum of the earth run around with there guns shooting and killing.

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