Day 24 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Final Day – Probably a Verdict before dinner

Today, July 12th, is DAY #24 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the prosecution provide closing arguments (Summary HERE), today the defense attorney, Mark O’Mara will present his closing argument.  Then the prosecution rebuttal.

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“We will have to wait to see what the evidence provides, my client believes he is not guilty”….   [Mark O'Mara - April 2012, after arrest]

“My client feels he is not a racist”…..   [Mark O'Mara - May 2012]

“I cannot speak to his honesty, but George Zimmerman has definitely damaged his credibility, we’ll have to wait and see if he can recover it”….   [Mark O'Mara - June 2012, 2nd Bond]

“My client said he thinks he did nothing wrong”…..  [Mark O'Mara - July 2012]

“The Stand Your Ground law is an absurd statute”….   [Mark O'Mara - August 2012]

“I don’t know if it is illegal, but there should be a law, or legislation written, to stop this type of thing”…..  [Mark O'Mara - September 2012]

“If it was not for my client, George Zimmerman, he (Crump) and I would be on the same side in this issue”….  [Mark O'Mara - October 2012]

“My client was arrested, he should have been arrested, and so there is no reason to debate civil rights in this trial…  [Mark O'Mara - November 2012]

“He’s probably not guilty of murder”… [Mark O'Mara - July 2013]

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Forget the toxicology report, forget the 7-11 video, forget the text’s about buying guns and smoking dope, and selling weed – and thinking you’re a “creepy ass cracka”. Forget the ping logs, the missing phone data, the lies and all that stuff. Just stop….

This is my time now. I am channeling my inner Clarence Darrow brilliance. Stop bothering me with your innocent nonsense…

Four Live Stream Links:

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html

http://livewire.wesh.com/

http://www.clickorlando.com/

Here are some additional *possible* Links to the Hearing:

Hat Tip Rumpole for the list.
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553 Responses to Day 24 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Final Day – Probably a Verdict before dinner

  1. Mr. Izz says:

    I don’t know if I can watch the closing arguments for the defense, or the rebuttal from the prosecution. It is just too painful. Hopefully, O’Mara will grow a bit of a conscience and defend his client valiantly. Poor George doesn’t deserve what has happened to him. All prayers go out to the jury.

  2. ZurichMike says:

    With friends (defense counsel) like that . . . .

  3. nwtex says:

    Don’t know if this was posted elsewhere.

    Re: Jury instructions:
    There will be no instruction on provoking the use of force (aggressor.)

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/11/125329/324/crimenews/Zimmerman-Jury-Instructions-

    • Steven W. says:

      She is anticipating that Guy will spring some “new” exhibit – I don’t believe the timeline chart was presented in court during BDLR close so that could be what they “counter” the video with – there was some debate about the exhibit when it was first admitted and some of the text, etc., was changed by prosecution to try & meet some defense objections. that would “counter” the defense video and, also + importantly the gap in their own timeline.

      • arkansasmimi says:

        Yes Bernie showed it yesterday. The white board timeline thing is what I am talking about

      • Josh says:

        BDLR showed the timeline chart yesterday during his closing arguments. The chart appeared weak. I assume the jury can take it into deliberations with them.

  4. eastern2western says:

    lets hope O’Mara will finally explain the 4 minutes of running no where.

  5. Rachelle says:

    It occurred to me that what really went wrong with this case was that Mr. Zimmerman was identified as white at first.

    If they had identified him correctly as a Hispanic-Black or, better, Black-Hispanic, he would never have been charged. It would have been just another everyday, very common, minority vs. minority that nobody really gives a crap about. No news. Nothing unusual. Boring.

    • Josh says:

      Not only was he identified as white but it was assumed he was a Jew. A white Jew! A white Jew killed an innocent black baby! I’ve said before, just imagine if he WERE a white Jew. It’s bad what they are doing to George Zimmerman. If he were a white Jew it would be so much worse!

      • Baldy says:

        Yep. A lot of libs assumed he was Jewish, probably still think so if they aren’t following the case.

      • Shelby says:

        I totally agree with you! The glee with which the media emphasized the last name Zimmerman was disgusting. Once realized he wasn’t exactly white, they didn’t want to abandon the deranged white Jew narrative, so they just tacked Hispanic after the white and made sure that the photo of GZ was “brightened” just a bit to make him look less Hispanic.

  6. chuckles49 says:

    I hope O’mara doesn’t use the same type of verbiage in his closing statements.. Maybe George will get lucky and Don West will present the closing arguments. He’s 100% in George’s corner, and wants nothing less than a not guilty verdict returned by the jury.

    I don’t like people that speak out of both sides of their mouth like O’mara. If his heart isn’t 100% in it, he should defer to Mr. West.

  7. sbguy says:

    xxxxxx, Sundance. I had almost let the comments in his press conference yesterday go. Don’t make me write another diatribe from my phone.

    I’m optimistic about his argument in court tomorrow but I don’t want to think about the press conference after. Ugh.

  8. nwtex says:

    I sure am glad I read Sundance’s post now rather than in the morning. Alka Seltzer does NOT go well with morning coffee.

    • marie says:

      SD said the script called for “not guilty” and he just said a verdict before dinner. Why worry? (She says as she wrings her hands…)

      SD, if you’re so sure the script says “not guilty” then why the stressing now, the night before the closing, over all the things MOM didn’t fight for? We have all seen that and most of us are disgusted by his decisions not to “go there” but as you have said, he won’t so let’s just worry about the right verdict first. Then, after you and all of us can “got there.”

      Frankly, I am still worried about the verdict but trying to tell myself you’ve been so right about other things you must (fingers crossed) be right about the NG verdict too.

  9. MOM doesn’t buy what he’s selling. He doesn’t believe in self defense. That is what I get from the above statements.

    • marie says:

      He doesn’t believe, I suspect, that a citizen should have the right to carry a gun. He will probably tour the country, as SD said, and argue against concealed carry laws and who knows, Georgie might now agree. If he does, he’s a fool.

      • FedUp says:

        If GZ agrees with that I will lose all respect for the man. GZ owes his life to a properly functioning firearm. What we need is better legislation protecting citizens from this circus. It won’t happen though, because this country is being run by too many people that no longer care about their constituents. So I’m all for their rioting, because it’s time for people that no longer respect others to get the fear of God slapped back into them.

      • stella says:

        MOM is a gun owner, I believe.

        ADD: Any defense attorney that isn’t a gun owner is a fool.

      • George’s brother Robert certainly doesn’t agree. He has tweeted many times about 2nd amendment rights.

    • nwtex says:

      It hurts to know that. I know I would feel abandoned if any atty of mine had that sort of mind set.
      However, from what I’ve seen in court and it isn’t much, I think he is doing a fine job in Georges behalf—again—IN court.
      I feel that the impromptu move to jump on the stuffed prop was excellent. Otherwise the jury would be left with perverted nonsense. Yes, O’Mara did a very fine job imo.

    • maggiemoowho says:

      I agree, I’ve believed that from the get go. IMO, MOM thinks that George was wrong, but the law allowed him to do what he did. Typical of Anti-Gun people. That is why he insisted this go to trial. Also, if I remember correctly, MOM also said that this might have been a Civil Rights matter if it didn’t go to court. It infuriates me to no end.

  10. BigMamaTEA says:

    nwtex, those pictures do tell!

    • nwtex says:

      Indeed BigMamaTEA. Candid shots can sometimes speak volumes especially in this setting. I sure would not want to bump into either of them anywhere anytime…especially at night with no one else around. No!
      I wonder what was going on in court at that exact moment.

  11. waltherppk says:

    Mark this with a bullet point PLEASE in regards to the reenactment timeline. From the Lauer 911 recording and Lauer testimony and witness statement, along with whatever consideration is with reservation assigned to the alleged Rachel Jeantel phone call ending time of 7:15:43, there is about a 10 second time window of 7:15:33 to 7:15:43 which may be reasonably concluded is the time of beginning for the verbal confrontation which quickly became a violent physical altercation culminating in the gunshot at 7:16:55. The total “event duration” covers a time range of 72 to 82 seconds for the entire event. That is a relatively short time of engagement in an intense struggle which could easily explain the absence of blood of the accused on the hands of the deceased, since the bleeding from the injuries to the accused was a slow low volume blood flow from impact trauma injuries which would require longer time to present a probable blood transfer scenario.

    The NEN call of the accused to Noffke ended at 7:13:40 which is almost a full 2 minutes before the encounter of the accused with the deceased. In some prior statement of the accused it was stated that when he was at the East end of the Tee where the NEN call ended, he paused there to try to get his flashlight working because he had some light there to be able to see what he was doing troubleshooting the flashlight, which he wanted working if he could get the flashlight working before returning West down the dark sidewalk back to his vehicle. But in a statement it was also said that the accused thought it was only 20 or 30 seconds after the NEN call ended
    when the deceased began the verbal confrontation. This is a discrepancy of time that should be corrected to reflect the added time after the NEN call ended that the accused paused and tried to get the flashlight working while still at the East end of the sidewalk. That pause there while messing with the flashlight reconciles the time discrepancy, since it was closer to 2 minutes than 20 seconds after the NEN call ended that the accused was returned to the intersection of the Tee where the altercation began. Troubleshooting the flashlight explains the time discrepancy.

    • kikkoman says:

      I hope we can assume the phone logs (T-mobile vs. NEN logs) have been properly synchronized, right?!

    • Yakmaster says:

      Good thinking, Waltherppk! It’s bothered me the Defense has not explained those couple of blank minutes that are going to show up on the timeline.

      • waltherppk says:

        It would seem evident that the deceased actually ran the first time immediately after he was around the corner of the clubhouse, while the accused was backing out of the parking place at the clubhouse and turning right onto Twin Trees Lane expecting to regain visual contact with the deceased walking just around the corner from the clubhouse. But the deceased had taken off running “from the back” (of the mail pavilion) and had made tracks far East down the way on Twin Trees Lane so he was already entering the walk by Lauer townhouse before George was halfway down the lane. George did not see the deceased make that first run, and that first run is not the running that George reported to the NEN dispatcher Noffke. I conclude that such a first run would necessarily have occurred to account for the later relative positions described to reconcile the movements with the timeline.

  12. ctdar says:

    Great article re Judge Nelson & other violations in the trial; 1st comment hits all the points :)
    http://www.infowars.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration/

    Prayers to George & his Defense Team.

  13. I don’t understand the great blood ‘mystery’. IMO, George was sucker punched and taken to the ground immediately (for the pound portion) ALL of the blood (if he bled much at all – that depends on multiple factors) went down his throat during the struggle. TM then put his hand over the mouth +/or nose …. no blood. Karma intervened. George stood up and started to breed from his nose.

    • FedUp says:

      It was also raining, so a small amount of blood could have easily washed off. Plus the improper handling of TCon’s body etc. Reasonable doubt is all over this case.

      • sangell says:

        Hard to find a more effective cleaning agent than wet grass. I would assume that at more than one point during the struggle Trayvon pressed his palms against the ground to try and control a struggling GZ and we know when he lay dying he slid his hands along the ground to clutch at his wound.

        I know I used to use ‘wet grass’ to get mud off my boots. Cleaned them right up.

    • nivico says:

      Actually, and this just irked me to no end that the forensic pathologist didn’t point this out when Bernie was smacking the mouth on the photo, there IS smeared blood around George’s mouth on the right side. It’s smeared down from the right nostril to the corner of his mouth, ending in what looks to be a thumb impression.

      And it is underneath the fresh blood flow.

      Plain as day.

    • Josh says:

      ShouldaStayedInSkool, it’s NOT about the truth!

  14. aboojie says:

    I’m just hoping I can watch without having my tv on volume 3 (for normal listening capabilities) and no execdrin migriane pills…. One vey. MOM shouldn’t yell all day at me or the jury….

  15. Be Ge says:

    PC and following “de mortuis nil nisi bonum” was, JIMHO, a bad mistake. The lawyer is really supposed to do whatever it is possible to do to get his client a non-gulty verdict or JoA. If that includes an accurate portrayal of Trayvon Martin and his propensity for violence — that is exactly what should ‘ve been done, including a testimony of a toxicologist, MDSPD officers and so on.

    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Be Ge, you are actually correct. Speak no ill of the dead, has a different reasoning in legal issues as per this: http://definitions.uslegal.com/d/de-mortuis-nil-nisi-bonum/

      “De mortuis nil nisi bonum is a Latin phrase that means speak no ill of the dead. However, common law principle dictates that defaming a deceased person is not actionable. A legal representative or heir of a deceased person approach a court for defamation of a dead person. The legal meaning is contradictory to the colloquial meaning that says it is socially inappropriate to say anything negative about a deceased person.”

  16. Cupcakes says:

    No!!!!! I had forgotten about this pic, and now I’m bummed out. Praying for a great day for GZ tomorrow.

  17. nwtex says:

    Wished the defense would have had one of the memory experts on to counter this nonsense about “changing stories” and how with trauma, adrenalin, stress, affects one’s memory when recounting an experience.
    Even atty’s and LE say that they don’t expect a person to tell a story the same way each time and if they do they most likely be lying.
    I’ve read that police that are involved in a shooting are advised to not talk to their superiors for 3 days after the incident.

    This guy is great. Professor James Duane. “A law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.”

    His youtube was posted here way back when. I don’t want to post the link because the vid will pop up and the thread may get jiggy but it is easy to find him on youtube just punch in his name as it is above.

    And there is:
    Mark NeJame
    I’ve been a criminal defense lawyer for a long time & have almost never seen a story told the same way twice.

    • FedUp says:

      1st rule of speaking to cops: I have to talk to my attorney.
      2nd rule of speaking to cops: See rule #1.
      GZ was naive, and that’s half the reason he is in the predicament he is in. Weirdest part of this whole thing IMO is that he’s a registered Democrat, and yet the BGI etc. still went after him with a vengeance.

  18. nwtex says:

    This whole thing has me a bit on edge. The black hats are ruthless and dangerous.

  19. nwtex says:

    I cannot believe that people (the adult type) have said in TV that George should have told Trayvon who he was. Whaaaatttt are they crazy??!! You go up to someone who fits the description of a criminal and tell them you are an authority???!! That would be to stupidest thing to say. eeegads…..these people’s synapses must be misfiring. For that matter walking up to a suspicious looking character for any reason is a sure way to get wailed on or worse. One person said he should have introduced himself and say that the police have been called they should be here in 3-4 minutes so please just wait around for a few minutes. Twilight Zone comes to mind.

    • aboojie says:

      I won’t watch people’s commentary on TV anymore. Especially nancy grace. Such a gem!

    • spectator1 says:

      I know, your car gives up where you live too, and eventually a keyed truck or broken windows, maybe worse.
      Always better to remain anonymous and keep an eye on them.
      Punks hate security/NW types.
      Then there’s the problem of an attack starting right then and there.
      Then they’d still say “if you only would’ve kept your window up”, “if you just wouldn’t have said anything”, Trayvon would be alive today BS.

      • nwtex says:

        So true, spectator1. So if these brainiacs think someone should ID themselves to suspicious looking individuals why are there undercover cops. hahahhaha

        Hey, maybe the undercover coppers should all be brought up on charges because they are using subterfuge when gathering information…………… deceiving the criminals.

  20. aboojie says:

    Good morning and good afternoon or happy insomnia time…. Depending where you are…

  21. aboojie says:

    I just have to say it was so literally painful for me to listen to BLDR today. He actually gave me a migraine, I fell asleep early, and thank goodness I’m caught up due to this website.

  22. aboojie says:

    Btw?. My husband thinks I’m the queen conspirator when I explain to him I know what I Kano from thus thus blog and other sites……

  23. aboojie says:

    I’m not looking for sympathy. I just want prayers George’s way :)

  24. Stormy says:

    First, I am praying for physical freedom for George, and then I’m praying for him to have freedom in other things after that.

  25. LHlaredo says:

    I’m not going to watch the verdict, but if I see smoke coming from the East, I will know George was vindicated.

  26. mrsqt says:

    Anyone know the reason why RZjr has been silent as of late? He all but disappeared. Does anyone believe he is too busy caring for his grandmother to be there for his brother? Even if he didn’t utter a word in GZ’s defense he could still be there for moral support. Aside from Don West he has been a true hero advocating for his brother. If only the world had more honorable men like him and less greedy hatemongers. If only…

    Or is RZjr just sick of watching the runaway train that is barreling down the tracks aimed at his brother? Lord knows how helpless he must feel that there is not a damn thing he can do to stop the injustice. I know how helpless I feel. After all, I am George Zimmerman. We are all George Zimmerman. I know how little this has to do with him as a person and has everything to do with him as a product. I hate feeling this way but like they say, “The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.”

    Back to RZjr because something about his absence doesn’t sit well with me…Did he receive some sort of threat or warning to stay out of sight and keep his mouth shut – or else???

    I was hopeful, if not confident that a not guilty verdict was a safe due to the overwhelming reasonable doubt and obvious self defense. Now, I’m just not sure. After all, I realize this has nothing to do with the law, truth or GZ’s innocence.

    Like all of your supporters I go to bed with a heavy heart and will be praying for you, George.

    Lord, hear our prayer…

    • Stormy says:

      I believe that he is taking care of his grandmother… I guess I just figured that he offered to care for her, since his parents were hoping to be in the courtroom to support George everyday.

    • nwtex says:

      Guess my comment is stuck somewhere. Anyway,mrsqt, I’ll do a very brief answer to your que.
      A few weeks ago he said he is going to be ‘invisible’ until the verdict. Not even tweeting.

    • nwtex says:

      mrsqt: “…After all, I realize this has nothing to do with the law, truth or GZ’s innocence….”

      Even Geraldo has now this is all politics.

      And D.Tennis said it was all hatched on Sybrina’s couch.

  27. mrsqt says:

    Where’s my comment? grrr…

  28. Stormy says:

    I am beyond disgusted by the fact that Nelson cares more about the jurors’ inconvenience and comfort than she does about the fact that any of her errors could cause a man to lose his freedom.

    Let them eat cake, she said Oh, wait, that was another callous autocrat ;)

    Here is what Judge Nelson said:

    If I have made a mistake in this case, you will appeal… “If there is a conviction, it will get appealed to a higher court and they can determine whether or not I’ve made a mistake.”

  29. spectator1 says:

    I heard about BDLR saying something about GZ stopping briefly next to the mailboxes on the EPH video.
    I sure hope Omara knows about the 3min 900ft A to B timeline that fits GZ’s story perfectly, and would refute Martin being at the Mail kiosk .

  30. mrsqt says:

    Like all of your supporters I go to bed with a heavy heart and will be praying for you, George.

    Lord, hear our prayer…

    • nwtex says:

      Hold positive thoughts. Don’t let the negative sneak in. noooo. Nothing good ever came from worry or negative thinking.

  31. Cgee says:

    Kick it Mark. I mean out-of -park. Lose the mediocre peace maker alter boy persona. Glove up. Your client is innocent and has never demonstrated Ill will let alone malice or evil intent. All the ongoing arguments of this and that are banal and trivial at the same time demand your words to frame, explain and then inflame. This man, George Zimmerman is not only not guilty but more importantly he is innocent. There is an unending crescendo that builds tonight. I am going to pray all night. I see pictures of Travoyn from a couple of years before his tragic death. This was a beautiful life, by all accounts a boy with plans and aspirations. The person he was at death should never been hidden or distorted by inaccurate photos/press clips From the time of those middle school cutie pictures to the time of his death something happened, something changed. Negative influences became a focus of Travoyn. He did not deserve to die. He deserved to have a mom and dad who give everything–their full parental attention to him once they knew of his problems in school, interest in drugs. In the year before his death, He was interested in and celebrating many of the negative influences of young black culture. This black youth culture has a negative influence. We are losing the legitimate civil rights memories and the advances made when false arrests are made for political reasons especially when the accused was so obviously defending himself. False cases of racial profiling/hatred diminish and pollute the real events of the civil rights movement. Trayvon was going down a bad path and his parents did not teach/protect/parent him. George Zimmerman is a guy who was trying to do the right thing by reporting possible crime in his neighborhood. Numerous witnesses came forward and reported about GZ’s positive behavior. This trial should have never been. Black on black violence, the black entertainment industry that celebrates drugs, violence, hatred toward police, mysogyny , the broken black (fatherless family) are the desperate, ignored issues that need to be explored. Wake up BGI your children are being sucked into a damning culture you accept or tolerate. Fight like MLK against the influences of blackyouthentertainent culture. Many whites are juststartingto understand that blacks hate them. This trial perpuated by the politics of race has diminished what was accomplished inthe civil rights era of the sixties and it is contrived, false and politically motivated. The time, money and energy could and should have been used on improving or going after an actual civil rights violation. Lot’s of us are watching and someone or some group is really responsible for this trial which is a false trial and a miscarriage of justice. I hope those who did this are vilified, held accountable and punished. If there are riots and anyone is hurt it should be blamed on those media who constantly distorted and inflamed the news esp. Those news sources that blacks rely on. The black entertainment industry on twitter and media that did not repot the truth because they felt it was not PC to report what was going on with regards to race. The prosecution never came close to proving murder 2 or now even manslaughter. Those who reported otherwise and inflamed are responsible for riots and violence. The calm, measured, accurate reporting of the truth of the case would have helped diffuse emotions. It’s on the false media and the people themselves if the riot.

  32. forensical says:

    Whoa, I hadn’t seen those quotes before. Now I get the MOM bashing much better.

    • Sharon says:

      So quoting someone accurately (as Sundance has been doing for months) is considered bashing. That’s fairly discouraging.

  33. aboojie says:

    Which channel is the most popular with the CTH right now???

    • rovatek says:

      I’ve been using wildabouttrial.com for the trial and clickorlando.com for pressers/commentary.

    • BigMamaTEA says:

      aboojie, I use wildabouttrial and they do have pressors if they’re being done afterwards. I chose NOT to listen to the ‘talking heads” and all of their bs commentary.

    • Deb says:

      I’ve been watching on http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/
      During sidebars and lunch breaks, the two commentators (one being an attorney) actually explain what is going on from a legal point of view. They appear to be unbiased. The feed also includes a live blog under the video, which will give you a feel for what outside observers are thinking. The feed also covers pressers afterwards, if there are any.

      PS: To SD and Admins. I will be sending a small donation to you today (through PP under another email address) as a token of my appreciation for all your hard work and diligence in keeping us informed on all topics. I am a long time reader who rarely comments. Just wanted to THANK YOU for all that you guys have done and hopefully will continue to do going forward. You have lots of silent fans out here. Keep up the good work. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and of course, the TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA! :-)

  34. sunnydaze77 says:

    Has Shellie been in the court room and I havent noticed her? She was there at the very beginning but i have not seen her since then. I dont think she has been and Im wondering why. Was she a potential witness? She wasnt there for closing from the prosecution. I just havent seen any1 mentioning Shellie, im concerned as a wife to have my hubby possibly spending the rest of his life in prison, I would be sick. God bless you George and family, prayers sent.

    • BigMamaTEA says:

      sunny, yes, she was on the witness list (but so were TrayMom and Dad) grrrr. The family of George was removed from the courtroom early on.

    • kikkoman says:

      She was there yesterday during the pros closing, the camera zoomed in on her briefly at some point. At the far right of the benches.

  35. PeruvianMom says:

    How did MOM end up as the lawyer? Why take on a client in a case like this who you do not want to passionately defend? Why be protective of the reputation of the guy who was attempting to kill your client? Would MOM be the attorney if DOJ didn’t approve??

    • LL says:

      Would you rather he be like BLDR or Guy in style? Those two are idiots and will be rejected by any jury with half a brain (IMHO).

    • Lulu says:

      I am hearing a man proclaim his client – the defendant – to be innocent beyond a reasonable doubt. Not “not guilty”. That is a powerful message. We do not have a verdict of “innocent” as some countries do. We have only “not guilty”, which means the prosecution did not prove its case. “Innocent” means the defendant didn’t do it.

      Artful defense does not require shouting, blustering histrionics.

      MOM is showing confidence in his client. He doesn’t need melodrama to make up for lack of facts on his side. Just calm, rational, common sense argument.

  36. I think Mom’s job is to give the impression of a fair representation and he will do just well enough to get away from M2 but not good enough for manslaughter. I don’t have faith in him or this system. Obama and Holder, *if* they are rigging this, would not rig for a free man. I hope Mom proves me wrong as well as those jurors who will have the closing statements be ‘shot through the heart’ by Bon Jovi as John Guy dances in his underwear. God I hate this planet.

    • caseyanderson2112 says:

      Oh man, it’s way too early in the day to need brain bleach. Blech!

      The sad part is I can see that Risky Business ripoff actually occurring today.

      • “Sup, ladies. Sucks about that dead kid. Had skittles. George is fat. You know who is not fat? This guy. Time to convict. Cue the lights, baldy”.

        He may as well. Just as silly as the crap they have been spewing for over a year.

      • BigMamaTEA says:

        Yeah, and did you see any of the Traysupporters tweets after that? Some of those girls were “wishin I was that mannequin” and “hottie you can ride me like that anytime”

        DISGUSTING!!!

  37. Be Ge says:

    While we’re getting ready for the GZ trial to come to an end, it looks as though the liberal edumbacation is up to the next level of insanity. They are about to start offering courses on “Race and Politics, Trayvon Martin”

    http://news.yahoo.com/george-mason-university-offers-course-trevon-martin-013205385.html

    http://soan.gmu.edu/courses/1844/course_sections/13174

    How to become a son to President Obama. Nice course. I wonder what they will have in that course on the topic of George Zimmerman’s acquittal.

  38. Lou says:

    racebaiting cases should have serious consequences when they are found out to be not true. Sybrina, Tracy, Natjack, Crump should all be in jail. Every time a media outlet shows a false image of a little kid to represent a criminal, they should have to pay at least a $50,000 fine to the defendant. laws should be put in place so something like this, Crystal Magnum or Tawana Brawley never happen again. legislation must be drafted that racebaiters pay and pay big.

    • Be Ge says:

      Duke Lacrosse Act of the kind you are describing would be trashed by the court system. The media can lie — but not to the point of targeted defamation of a person or entity. A foundation (like SPLC in a way) is more, JIMHO, appropriate to defend the rights of people like George Zimmerman, abused and daemonized by the media.

      • BigMamaTEA says:

        BeGe, do you mean Southern Poverty Law Center?

        • Be Ge says:

          Yes. An Southern Poverty Law Center alike to protect people from racial baiting by the media and the likes of Jesse, Al and Co.

          • BigMamaTEA says:

            BeGe, sorry to break it to you….but SPLC has gone all uber-radical Marxist on us now.
            Been studying all of those creeps for about 7 years now. A lot of the “previously known as helping-type organizations and foundations” have now been corrupted, become million dollar payrolls, who’ve lost the idealism of their founders.

            • Be Ge says:

              Ok, I see your point, please read my comment as “a foundation alike to what SPLC originally was” to protect people from racial baiting by the media and the likes of Jesse, Al and Co.

              I tend to be in a very good understanding of the correlation between marxism and the likes of Vladimir Lenin, Uncle Joe Stalin, Salot Sar and Mao Ze Dong, the people responsible for the worst genocides in human history. It seems to me the majority of folks who support Obama or his french colleague Franky “75 % tax for the rich” Hollande do not, unfortunately.

              • BigMamaTEA says:

                You know, it makes me sick too. Even currently, there are new groups with the word Conservative, or American, who are uber-leftists in disguise. Anymore you have to verify before you trust.

    • Sharon says:

      What on earth good would more legislation do when lawlessness is the norm????

      We wouldn’t have an illegal immigration problem if the law were enforced. Eric Holder would not be AG if the law were enforced. (13 months ago he was found in Contempt of Congress and it was never enforced). Our nation would not be headed into the fifth consecutive year of operating without a federal budget if the law were enforced.

  39. BigMamaTEA says:

    Lou, sorry, NO more legislation. The culture of the BGI has to be changed. There is a rising group of Conservative blacks that are attempting to get their fellow blacks to “leave the liberal plantation.” Daneen Borelli, Niger Innus, Star Parker, Michel Massey, Thomas Sowell, Rev.CL Bryant, and many more. In fact Daneen is raising a ruckus at the moment because the Nat’l NAACP won’t let the Conservative blacks speak at the convention.

    We must support their efforts.

  40. Sweetback the Murse says:

    I now understand what Sundance has been saying about Omara. The above optic and quotes speak volumes about his ideology and self-interests. Yes, you can defend someone with a law you don’t believe in and still be effective. But I don’t think his position is as much about ideology as it is about self-interest. Omara wants to be famous and a tv legal analyst, that has become obvious. He has been self-promoting on tv every opportunity that arose and even set-up Zimmerman to appear on Hannity( which a defendant should never do because it can and will be used against him just as we have seen ) and yet never once defended Zimmerman with conviction. He has a better chance of becoming an analyst if he appears on the “correct” side of the MSM ideology. Thus, he is not a principled man, as most Liberals are not.

  41. Joel says:

    MOM doesn’t need a spectacular closing. Just an adequate one to overcome BDLR’s foolish one.

    • Expose each lie, let them know more questions, not facts are coming, only look for the facts, beyond a reasonable doubt, show the timeline from 711 – home, the 2 minute head start and remind them of the testimony, witnesses and who bled. Then ask “Why would a man of depraved mind want the police to meet him, why was he the only one bleeding, why did nobody see him straddle Trayvon and why didn’t Trayvon or Rachel, an admitted liar, call the police? How did Trayvon not make it home when you can make it home in under 45 seconds?”

      That’s it. It removes manslaughter unless the state proves something that they didn’t prove before. They have to understand the physics behind it, how it is impossible for Rachel’s bs story to be real. They have to doubt the minutes leading to it. Mark isn’t pay enough attention to that (yet) and he has to.

    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Joel, if he’s auditioning for tee-vee, he needs to knock it out of the ballpark!

      • Maybe that’s what West needs to tell him. Show him what TV makeup looks like, put it in front of him and say “This can be yours, Sally. Knock it out”. He’ll go out and make history after that.

        • If George is let free, and he poses with Don West with ice cream cones and posts it on twitter, would the internet literally explode?

          • Be Ge says:

            Is there a good explanation of the basis for that ice-cream cones outrage anyway? I once tried to explain this to fellow Russkies — and I realize I do not understand it much better than them.

            • Joel says:

              The picture came out after Rachael (a.k.a. DD) completed her testimony. The celebration was attributed to West’s cross examination of DD. Because of the caption and that it was shown after DD’s lying, a person could easily get the impression that West and his kids thought that DD was stupid. The picture was taken BEFORE DD’s testimony and posted the next morning. It was brought to the Internet’s attention AFTER her scintillating performance and certain people wanted the world to see how mean West was. “He was dissing DD.” Political Correctness dictates that when a black person makes a boo boo, polite society does not point it out and certainly doesn’t celebrate it.

            • BigMamaTEA says:

              No, the outrage was stupid. However; youth and inexperience of West’s daughter led her to post that during the trial. She was proud of her daddy, but the spotlight is on the defense to screw up right now.

  42. screwauger says:

    As things go, after months and months of obsession with this case/trial, I am traveling on vacation today and will not be able to join the discussions or view the closings. My fingers are crossed for you GZ. I DO NOT LIKE what am hearing this morning about “the jury” and my goal is to remain positive so, not watching probably for the better! Stay strong gang!!

    • BigMamaTEA says:

      screwauger, have a wonderful vacay and come back to the Tree when you get home!

      • screwauger says:

        TY BMT, I most certainly will and there is wireless at my destination (since I am not a smart phone person as yet). Stay safe out there!

  43. Trevor says:

    I’m not a big fan of quoting people out of context, or cherry picking quotes to fit a narrative. O’Mara has been at the center of the storm for quite some time and I find his ability to maintain his decorum and sensibilities to be quite admirable. In a world of cheap hustlers O’Mara comes off as a suave professional, don’t bet against him.

    • sundance says:

      I’m not a fan of that either. That’s why I’ve been very honest about it for almost a year and a half – while taking continuous flack for pointing it out. Nothing out of context. It is what it is. Nothing more…. Those quotes accurately reflect what O’Mara says about George Zimmerman to the media audience.

      http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/07/06/ive-no-more-tongue-to-bite/

      If it makes you uncomfortable to see the truth assembled, well, that’s your issue.

      • Trevor says:

        Attempts to spin a narrative about George Zimmerman’s lead attorney don’t make me feel uncomfortable, and I doubt O’Mara cares much what anyone on the internet thinks about him either. However, the notion that the headline assembly of cherry picked half sentence quotes from O’Mara’s old pressers depict the “truth” is highly suspect.

  44. Baldy says:

    Are these MOM quotes from pressers he held? Are there references to where they were made? I tried searching for one and couldn’t find anything. I am being sincere and want to believe.

  45. dizzymissl says:

    It would be cool if MOM could somehow simulate the conditions from that night in the courtroom.

    • RogerMike says:

      I was thinking the same thing – like walking to the far corner of the courtroom, and yelling to the jury, “This is where TM was when he decided to come back and confront GZ. Think if every step I’m walking back to you…………….as 10 yards……… “” And then, take a real 4 minutes to talk while doing so……… I think that would hammer it home.

  46. Yakmaster says:

    Good morning other insomniac Treepers, and grudgingly, those who slept well last night as well!
    Like others, I’m nervous today. I hope MOM is not too dispassionate in his closing. I hope he points out not just what George DID NOT do, but that he’s a man with a kind soul and good character. He has to switch the narrative of the completely innocent teenage boy with the skittles to one of George as the VICTIM. I pray he has it in him to do that.
    If he doesn’t and George gets Manslaughter I hope George immediately fires MOM and hires a fierce advocate for his appeal.
    But, I’m going to hope and pray MOM is inspired today and the jury has some of the common sense BDLR kept lauding yesterday (not that he has much himself).

    PS On a more global view of the case, Sean Hannity has picked up the thread concerning DOJ-CRS and devoted his show to this affair last night. Coulter was a guest and she spoke plainly about this travesty. I hope they don’t just ‘let it go’ after the verdict, but keep exposing it now the facts of Holder’s involvement are going national. It’s so much bigger than this case alone.

  47. Dell Mar says:

    George Zimmerman could not of found a better lawyer to defend him than MOM.

  48. diwataman says:

    I think O’Mara will rely heavily on that last part of jury selection process he did with them with what the jury ought to do in their deliberations especially with “wavers and vacillates” and appeal to their intellect as opposed to what Bernie did and what Guy will do and appeal to their womanly and motherly emotion.

    “A reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary or forced doubt. Such a doubt must not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. On the other hand if, after carefully considering, comparing and weighing all the evidence, there is not an abiding conviction of guilt, or, if having a conviction, it is one which is not stable but one which wavers and vacillates, then the charge is not proved beyond every reasonable doubt and you must find George Zimmerman not guilty because the doubt is reasonable.”

    • TandCrumpettes says:

      After that I want to hear a bullet-point listing of all the questions Bernie asked yesterday. “Did he run down this way?” “Could it have been the button?” “Could it have been a tree branch?” “Could the victim be retreating?”

      Could be. Maybe. Possibly. Might have. Questions, questions, questions. The state offered reasonable doubt on a silver platter, right out of their own mouths yesterday.

  49. BigMamaTEA says:

    Yes isn’t it wonderful! That makes Rush, Beck, Hannity, Levin, and almost all new media are diggin’ in!! Judicial Watch is doing more FOIA’s and of course The Conservative Treehouse!!
    I’m trying to direct all of those folks to delve into the research that’s been done here.

  50. BigMamaTEA says:

    Oh, and I’ve been faxing info to all of our Congress Criminals too.(At least they will have been told)

  51. BigMamaTEA says:

    You know that the SchemeTeam with the Rep Corrine Brown and the Cowboy Hat Rep. testified to a congressional committee, trying to get Trademark? Maybe congress will look into Taxpayer $$ being spent by DOJ ‘s Holder for “his people.”

  52. toomanyspiders says:

    My prayers are with the zimmerman family. Regardless of MOM’s public statements (and you never know the real motivation behind a public statement) he is representing GZ pro bono and for that I’m grateful. He and the rest of the defense have done a stellar job representing him under a vice grip of corruption and prejudice. I agree with the defense’s decision not to bring up the THC as it could make the jury think martin was mellow and not the aggressor. Keep praying.

  53. arkansasmimi says:
  54. Yakmaster says:

    Has the tox report been admitted into evidence? Will it be available (along with all the other evidence) during jury deliberations?

  55. eastern2western says:

    there is an interesting part about the black lady’s testimony that proves all black people with out racism know those screams were not from a white man. we should all remember that black lady who was interviewed via facetime who told O’Mara that those screams were from George because they do not sound like a black man’s scream. In those quick little words, she proves that black people have particular screams that are just completely different from Zimmerman, but every black person filled with racism lied to pretend they are from trayvon because they just want to convict Zimmerman. this is the biggest sham of public lynching in current history.

    • Yakmaster says:

      LOVE IT. Thanks for this post, Stella. I just finished Cashill’s book “Deconstructing Obama” :-)

  56. George’s brother Robert publicly announced that he would not be tweeting during the trial. His absence doesn’t mean anything particularly if he is the only one in the family who has to take care of the grandmother since Gladys and Robert Sr. have to attend the trial.

  57. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    I think we will see some interesting visual aids today

  58. St. Benedict's Thistle says:

    Ah, Shelob is back once again, sitting pretty in her lair.

  59. Baldy says:

    RE: The screams – Does GZ have an accent? To my W Penn ears, the Prosecutors have accents. I’m not sure if I’m hearing an accent in GZ, or if I am filling in the blanks since I know his ethnic background, but he sounds Hispanic to me in some of the spoken audio, whatever that means.

  60. Unicron says:

    I’m really glad to see they have some silhouette cut outs to show the respective sizes of the two people, you can see them behind GZ along the wall.

    I also said a year+ ago, very very early on… that if MOM didn’t commission an animation of GZ’s account, he was massively failing his client. I’m so glad they did that…

    since he’s only allowed to use it as a demonstrative aid can he go back to version 1 which had more animation? Why keep the limitations which were put in only as a way to try to appease the state so it could be substantive evidence?

  61. dizzymissl says:

    Martin family is not present

    • lorac says:

      OH I’m sure they will march in there to make a show. They should bar anyone coming in and out of the court room once it starts. Interruptions cause distractions to the jury.

  62. BigMamaTEA says:

    Showtime. See y’all later.

  63. Drudge has a link to the trial on the top of the page. The nation was watching; now the world!

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  64. talking2much says:

    *stomach churning* Morning all!

  65. maggiemoowho says:

    Just heard on channel 6 that MOM/West brought a copy of the US Constitution into court to display. 😃

  66. Sha says:

    I sent up a heart felt prayer for you George . :)

  67. Yakmaster says:

    Not to sound like a broken record but: Was tox report admitted into evidence? Available for Jury doing deliberations?
    Asking because I will be taking an elderly friend out for lunch and movie at 11:30 today and gone all afternoon!

  68. Baldy says:

    Pinkie ring?

  69. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    There ya go. The pinkie ring.

  70. thehoff71 says:

    Wow, did Mark just call Sundance out?

  71. talking2much says:

    nice, getting GZ outta his chair.

  72. Eric says:

    Talkin’ about his pinky ring! Hmm, where did he get that from? ;)

  73. maggiemoowho says:

    Pinky Ring,😄😄😄😄😄💍

  74. froggielegs says:

    ROFL Pinky Ring!!!

  75. MOM looks like he’s still waking up.

  76. Baldy says:

    What the heck did the judge just say? I couldnt make out the words…

  77. I was expecting MOM’s argument for JOA brilliance and it seems he is stumbling quite a bit.

  78. fred12 says:

    What is MOM doing? It’s like he’s a congress critter listening to the media spin rather than what the jury actually knows?

  79. St. Benedict's Thistle says:

    Compared to Bernie, MOM is already hitting it out of the park.

    • maggiemoowho says:

      He’s talking to the jury like they are people, not like stupid idiots who are hard of hearing, my ears are still ringing from all the yelling that BDLR did. If BDLR has kids, I would bet they’re going to need hearing aids at a young age.

    • Bijou says:

      Agree 100%!!!

  80. lorac says:

    Praying so hard for George to be set free. Let’s keep it positive. If a negative thought comes in your head say to yourself……..GEORGE WILL BE FREE WHEN THIS IS OVER!!!

  81. tara says:

    What just hapened? Did Nelson just interrupt O’Mara?

  82. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    I think I get it–he’s arguing against a compromise verdict of manslaughter.

  83. Chip Bennett says:

    Good morning, all!

  84. Sha says:

    SD: That pinky ring thing was for you I think…….

  85. tara says:

    OH MY GOD the grifters all parade in right during O’Mara’s closing!!!

  86. talking2much says:

    WHy is the losers allowed to interrupt the closing????

  87. misterdeedeebooboo says:

    Martin family walking in late, causing a minor stir.

    Bleepin punks…

  88. John Galt says:

    Scheme Team stomps in during the middle of MOM’s closing arguments.

    • Sha says:

      Just think if they have no respect for the court and constantly are being disrespectful what do you think they taught there child…….

  89. Unicron says:

    I wasn’t looking at the screen for a sec, what happened with Twitter?

  90. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Legal Insurrection ‏@LegInsurrection 43s
    #Trayvon family enters courtroom in middle of #Zimmerman closing argument – cheap trick

    Too tacky for words.

    • angel says:

      “Legal Insurrection ‏@LegInsurrection 43s
      #Trayvon family enters courtroom in middle of #Zimmerman closing argument – cheap trick”

      I have always endeavored to parse my words out of sympathy for the parents of TM but sometimes we have to call it like it is: that was low, trying to divert the attention of the jury from MOM to them.

  91. ctdar says:

    Omg,TM parents just walked in 10 min into Def close!!!
    If THAT doesn’t show what kind of person Trayvon Martin was to the Jury than I don’t know what would. :evil:

    • tara says:

      I hope the jurors get it. The whole lot of them marched in all at one time. So obvious.

      • Bijou says:

        I don’t think it was lost on the jury.
        There is no excuse for showing up late like they did.
        It shows zero respect for the Court and everybody involved.
        But I think we already knew what kind of people they are.

  92. talking2much says:

    Talking about what we know about GZ, inferring “you don’t know anything about TM”

  93. Josh says:

    It is imperative that Mark O’Mara tells the jury that it is okay to find George Zimmerman NOT GUILTY on ALL charges. It is okay. In fact, it is not only okay, but it is the right thing to do.

    I’m just getting here so hopefully this has already been said but from reading the quotes above… :-(

    • Josh says:

      It’s also important for MOM to explain to the jury why GZ’s parents were not in the courtroom.

    • Bijou says:

      He already said that George is not guilty of ANYthing.
      We worked it in very adroitly.

      • Bijou says:

        “HE” worked it in…
        (Just starting first coffee.)

      • Josh says:

        Right but the jury has to know that THEY are allowed to find him not guilty on all charges. There is a strategy to the multiple charges. Often the jury will “compromise” on the lesser of all charges. My goodness, if the State has gone to ALL this trouble certainly it must be for something – all this for nothing?!?

  94. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    We know more about George than we do about Trayvon,
    Do not assume–which is all the prosecution is doing!

  95. lorac says:

    Tray Mom and Tray Dad came in late of course drawing attention to themselves. MY pet peeve is be on time it is rude to come in late. Hopefully the jury sees them for what they are and that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

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  97. lorac says:

    Can MOM mention manslaughter? He just mentioned Murder 2 but not manslaughter.

  98. fred12 says:

    Good point about prosecution didn’t prove a thing. Don’t decide by what you feel, but by what was proven, which was nothing.

  99. TB High T says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I like MOM. But at closing, I hate to say it but I think george needs a jose biaz. Someone who will take the bull by the horns and fight hard for george in a passionate way.

  100. tara says:

    Did all of the blacks agree to walk in late or something?

  101. dizzymissl says:

    MOM is calling the jurors stupid. Bad idea

  102. lorac says:

    Poor George and his family, my heart is breaking for them:(

  103. Facepalm says:

    Watching HLN and Taaffe used the “28 year olds use that kind of language” argument TMers used to defend RJ. Hilarious. Great Job Taaffe you are really stepping up your game on HLN. You really started turning it around after Dr. Drew.

    • tara says:

      I think Taafe is doing a great job. He’s got some good debating skills. I watched him fend off 6 of Dr Drew’s clowns last night.

  104. talking2much says:

    I love this! Read the Constitution MOM more people need to

  105. sundance says:

    Fast Eddie using Thomas Jefferson…. {{{ Hmmmm }}}

    Amos Looms!

  106. hikerseye says:

    “You are living the Constitution.” BAM!

  107. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    So far.. the jury is paying close attention. During jury selection some potential jurors thanked him for explaining the law. #Zimmermanon9

  108. talking2much says:

    Hammering the States dismal case and closing

  109. misterdeedeebooboo says:

    Did O’Mara just say that “good” prosecutors don’t do what BDLR & Circus have done?

  110. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 33s
    #zimmermantrial O’MARA: “How many what-ifs from State? They don’t get to say, what-if, they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt.”

    I think this statement is more effective and civilized that any objection would have been yesterday.

  111. St. Benedict's Thistle says:

    If West prepared this closing, then West is Amos.

  112. arkansasmimi says:
  113. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    Look, I get what Mark is saying about “reasonable doubt”. That IS the burden that the State must meet. But, I think the jury got it, a long time ago. He needs to move on.

  114. Baldy says:

    Did MOM just say “If I am wrong” let the State point that out? Why say that?

    • goddessoftheclassroom says:

      Because they can’t. There is NO evidence to contradict George’s account.

      • lorac says:

        Because the state cannot prove that chart wrong! Also the self defense one! I actually love it cause I’m a very visual person as I’m sure some of those on the jury are too:)

  115. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
    O’Mara: I’m going to take “side trip for just a few minutes… I’m going to take on the obligation” to prove #GeorgeZimmerman innocent.

    Please, Lord, be with him and guide the hearts and minds of the jury.

  116. ctdar says:

    Bet prosecution tried to saw off the leg of the trip chart holder.
    Never seen so many issues with show & tell for defense.

  117. lorac says:

    I love that graph…such a good way to make the jury see exactly what the prosecution must prove without a reasonable doubt!

  118. Facepalm says:

    It’s started. MOM has posters.

  119. fred12 says:

    wow! that was great when he held the poster up to Guy

  120. Bijou says:

    Wow…this is a brilliant tactic.
    MOM’s got a chart indicating all the degrees of “doubt”.
    They all equate to “Not Guilty”.

    • goddessoftheclassroom says:

      Andrew Branca, LOSD @LawSelfDefense
      #zimmermantrial O’MARA: SD likely? Not guilty. May not be SD? Not guilty. Unlikely, but might be? Not guilty. Less than likely? Not guilty.

  121. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Y’all, MOM has three hours. He wants to build his arguments on a firm foundation that logically progresses. Be patient! When the jury deliberates, this will help them, especially since the prosecution just splattered ideas all over the place with no cohesion.

  122. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    What is O’Mara DOING?

    Is he going to attempt to PROVE self defense, and then let the State say he failed, and hand the jury to the State?

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  123. sundance says:

    Mark O’Mara is not only trying to convince the Jury – He’s trying to convince himself.

    This is what a lawyer looks like when they are ideologically torn and has to revert to their classes in law school before they chose sides.

    • mung says:

      He is trying to convince you!

    • Josh says:

      As long as he convinces the jury…

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Yes, but I don’t think he’s even going that far. He isn’t trying to convince himself of George’s innocence, because he doesn’t *care* if George is innocent. He is arguing this case, not from the angle that his client is innocent, but from the angle that the State can’t prove his client is guilty.

      Mark O’Mara has never unequivocally said “My client is innocent!” He has *always* choked on that, with statements like “My client THINKS he is innocent.” Why?

      I see it now, more than ever. Mark O’Mara CAN’T say his client is innocent, without (at the same time) saying Trayvon Martin was guilty of assaulting him, and Mark O’Mara does not have the stones to say this. He simply cannot, and will not, sever himself from that tie. So, yes, he is conflicted, and it has totally influenced his representation of George, and every other issue that surrounds the investigation of this case.

  124. misterdeedeebooboo says:

    Pretty good closing so far, wish he’d stop talking about “confusing” the jury.

  125. uselessdebate says:

    Did someone in the court just say “He is guilty!”????

  126. jello333 says:

    I’ve been saying this for a year now! George is INNOCENT beyond a reasonable doubt! I like that they’re pushing this.

  127. ctdar says:

    Nelson smiling slightly in the background…..probably thinking “nice, no yelling.”

  128. fred12 says:

    Zimmerman Dad just looked at MOM like. “where are you going with this?”

  129. lorac says:

    Great MOM says he brought in call number 6 which the state hid! Love that one.

  130. GZanon says:

    Did MoM just state that GZ will most probably serve time????

  131. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
    O’Mara: State played you five recent #GeorgeZimmerman police calls, but didn’t play sixth. Says didn’t fit state’s case.

    Ooooo, I like that!

  132. Morning Treepers. Prayers for George & family today…

  133. Facepalm says:

    “I could of brought in all this evidence ,but I didn’t” – MOM

    wtf

    • lorac says:

      The jury will be smart enough to listen to those tapes again and it will prove that he was calm and cool when calling the non emergency number…not the angry racist that the state wants them to think GZ is.

  134. fisman45459 says:

    Praying for George, his family and all of his legal defense team.

  135. misterdeedeebooboo says:

    O’Mara openly mocking BDLR while standing 10 ft. in front of him.

    Love it!

  136. arkansasmimi says:
  137. timmihendrix says:

    To me MOM just hinted at the inevitable civil suit. Which to people who have background on the players in this scheme (including MOM?)is where their justice will come from.

  138. ctdar says:

    Get out of the weeds OMara. Thought you said from day 1 this case just boiled down to the 7 minutes and only that would decide the case!

  139. Lee says:

    Not your client – his name is George – George Zimmerman – not a paying customer -a man fighting for his freedom – his life – his family’s life – George Zimmerman – stop saying your client.

  140. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Andrew Branca, LOSD @LawSelfDefense
    #zimmermantrial O’MARA: State may want you to ASSUME it. Would have to assume, because can’t find it in actual evidence

  141. talkaftercarefulthought says:

    …hope to god my bias isn’t letting me think that this closing is better than it actually is

  142. fred12 says:

    Pool truck = DOJ?

  143. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Some commentators are saying that MOM switched burden of proof to the defense, I disagree, He established the state’s burden of proof; he’s just going beyond that to give examples of evidence of justified self-defense.

  144. Lou says:

    I’m glad he mentioned fit the description of Trayvon Martin.

  145. sundance says:

    Oh for the love of ______ “he called him an a-hole, because he fit those people” ???

    wTF. (((speechless)))

    Robert Sr. is gonna have a heart attack right there in court. :(

  146. lorac says:

    I love he is bringing in the George didn’t scream like the state wants you to believe..Seriously….love it……sounded like West Seriously!

  147. uselessdebate says:

    “Mr. Guy screamed, BDLR screamed, Mr. Zimmerman did NOT scream.”

  148. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
    This jury is paying such close attention they didn’t flinch over a loud noise from falling tv equipment in the courtroom. #Zimmermanon9

  149. timmihendrix says:

    MOM just referenced the inevitable civil suit. Which to those who have followed your digging into the background of the players involved in this scheme(including MOM?) is where THEIR real justice will be achieved.

  150. uselessdebate says:

    What on earth does $ybrina do on her phone the ENTIRE time?

  151. Josh says:

    MOM is staying calm just like GZ was staying calm.

    • BF4 says:

      As much as we would like to see MOM tear into prosecution for bringing this ridiculous case, his approach has been to display no anger, outrage, or negative emotion in front of jury that might be transferred to GZ.

  152. fred12 says:

    don’t play with your keys

  153. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby 34s
    MOM has explained more in 30 minutes than BDLR did in two hours. #ZimmermanTrial

  154. froggielegs says:

    I’m kind of confused, why is MOM shifting the burden of proof onto himself? The defense doesn’t have to prove anything so why tell the jury he is going to prove George is innocent?

    • clerkdante says:

      I see it as showing just HOW far from proving their case the state is.

      i.e. “Not only is the burden of proof on them, there so far from proof, I’ll prove the contrary, even though I’m not obligated”

    • cuky92 says:

      Maybe going to seek immunity after verdict?/

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      He’s trying to offset any notion of deception that the jury arrived at, by the fact that George did not testify on his own behalf. He’s also trying to stress that the burden of proof lies on the State, and that they have failed to meet that burden. And he’s right, the State HAS failed to meet that burden. In fact, they failed to prove anything.

      BUT, I don’t like this approach, if that is all he intends to do. Yes, he MUST deconstruct the narrative presented by the state, and point out that THEY failed to prove anything. But it MUST be followed by a cogent presentation of the defense’s theory, and propose THAT, proactively, as an alternate example of what DID happen, and demonstrate that the state CANNOT disprove it. THEN, reiterate that:

      1) If the defense has proved that ANY part of the State’s theory is wrong

      ————–or—————

      2) If the State has been unable to PROVE that any significant part of the defense’s theory is wrong

      THEN

      What remains is uncertainty.

      What remains is doubt.

      And that doubt is REASONABLE, and the law DEMANDS they vote “NOT GUILTY”

  155. talking2much says:

    Really hammering all the cussing on the part of the State.

    Showing how unimportant it is.

  156. fred12 says:

    He really has to stop assuming they’re actually going to look at the evidence. They’re dying to discuss the case with each other. They’re itching to deliberate.

  157. nivico says:

    speaking of ill will and hatred

    Guy looks homicidal this morning

  158. seacane says:

    Couldn’t MOM just show a video, of clips , of BDLR’s closing statement (inconsistencies).
    Then ask the jury if they miss home cooked meals, their families, pets, beds, email, friends….
    Tell’em State FAILED, they can be home by lunch.

  159. Josh says:

    MOM needs to not use TM’s name. At the time of the incident no one knew his name. At the time of the incident, TM was a suspicious person who was acting suspiciously.

  160. Who Are You? says:

    I like MOM’s tone, he is certainly able to acquire the jury’s attention via his mannerisms and his expert at using voice inflection in this setting to persuasive effect.

  161. talking2much says:

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 13m
    This jury is paying such close attention they didn’t flinch over a loud noise from falling tv equipment in the courtroom.

  162. arkansasmimi says:
  163. BF4 says:

    The difference between MOM and West:
    West cares WHY George Zimmerman is being prosecuted.

  164. ctdar says:

    Video!

  165. lorac says:

    The state looks like they are working hard to figure out how in the hell to combat what MOM is saying. I wonder if they will raise there voice at the jury!

  166. fred12 says:

    Let MOM use his mac.

  167. lorac says:

    wth this video better work. Where is the tech guy to get it working. Stop pounding on the computer.

  168. Animation is no good if you can’t show it. WTF!

  169. Josh says:

    I hope the Slim Jim appears in the video.

  170. sundance says:

    “what I’m going to show you is how things ‘may have’ happened at the T Intersection”….

    May Have? Really? Even now…… even now? :(

  171. Dell Mar says:

    George Zimmerman could not have found a better lawyer than MOM.

    • Yes could and he did. His name is Don West, the only one who cares about George. Not just George’s innocence but also the cause of George’s public persecution.

      • clerkdante says:

        In my estimation, at this point, MOM is the better lawyer simply because he’s entirely focused on his clients freedom. There’s clearly bigger issues at play, but diving into those at trial is an unnecessary and potential dangerous distraction for the jurors.

        • St. Benedict's Thistle says:

          The bigger issues relate directly to what happened and is happening to George.

          • clerkdante says:

            It’s disclosure would do little to sway 6 women either way regarding his innocence and could potentially come off like one of the states misdirections. MOM has razor like focus on Z’s innocence that night, and that’s his job. The rest can come out when George starts suing people.

        • Yes, the bigger issues can be handled after MOM gets GZ out of the fire. It wouldn’t be fair to George to attempt to prove a much larger conspiracy/collusion when his life is at stake.

          • St. Benedict's Thistle says:

            I can grant that. The question then becomes whether the bigger issues will be handled, or will they be swallowed up in the events afterward.

            • I agree – the larger issues MUST be handled. I also agree that MOM is not the one to pursue these issues. BUT, if I were GZ, I would want my attorney to stop this public beating as soon as possible without the possibility of confusing the jury or muddying the waters of a clear case of self-defense. I, frankly, can’t imagine anyone being in George’s position who would say otherwise.

      • RogerMike says:

        My input the other day, MOM is the smooth talker, DW is the surgeon. Both needed. Highly complementary of each other’s skills.

    • Josh says:

      Ditto to what NewMediaJournalism said.

    • GZanon says:

      patience resilience

  172. Josh says:

    One guy on the ground and then two guys on the ground?

  173. MOM needs to look at the jury and ask them who is most likely yelling for help from the animation. George is on bottom.

  174. As a filmmaker, 50mm perspective is vital. Surprised MOM knew to include it.

  175. maggiemoowho says:

    Shouldn’t he play that all the way through without speaking through it.

  176. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
    O’Mara: Animation “it wasn’t a video tape, although George certainly hoped that there was” one. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

  177. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Bob Owens ‏@bob_owens 1m
    ALL witness testimony supports what O’Mara is showing in the video. Guts “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard. #ZimmermanTrial

  178. Whoa, BLDR looks pizzed..

  179. ZurichMike says:

    Not very adept using props. Should have been set up in advance.

  180. tara says:

    Please talk about why Trademark was at the tee, O’Mara!

  181. ctdar says:

    Bernie just looked over at Guy like drats. He brought up the point as well,
    as he scratches out on his note pad. :lol:

  182. talking2much says:

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    Martin’s father is looking at his cellphone.

  183. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Sincere question: has MOM ever seemed emotionally involved with a client’s case? If not, maybe this is just how he is.

  184. froggielegs says:
  185. nivico says:

    brilliant

  186. ZurichMike says:

    Showing how long the time is for the strapping TrayBoy to *run* home.

  187. Cyber says:

    Strange way to take a break, but so far I’m liking his tactics.

  188. goddessoftheclassroom says:

    Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 1m
    #zimmermantrial O’MARA: Interesting, too–what was TRAYVON MARTIN doing during this time?

    WOOOOOOOOT!

  189. ctdar says:

    Good, radio silence making the point on the missing 4 minutes.

  190. AghastInFL says:

    I like this, trayvons timeframe.

  191. twolaneflash says:

    Bernie trying to look so offended and injured by the defense closing. How can the jury possibly believe MOM when poor Bernie looks like he’s being assaulted and Stink-eye Guy looks like he’s about to come out of his chair and climb across the table to Trayvon MOM? /s

  192. Josh says:

    MOM: “We know he was on the phone with Rachael Jeantel”.
    He should have said: We’ve been told he was on the phone with Rachael Jeantel.

  193. daman12013 says:

    Yes he is making them sit for the 4 minutes to show them just how LONG that is. PREFECT….

  194. Cyber says:

    ZurichMike, I think you’re exactly right. That’s what he’s doing.

  195. Josh says:

    I like this time thing :-)

  196. Benzy says:

    How nice of the media feed to zoom in tight on the court’s digital clock

  197. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    Ahhhh….. good idea…. He’s giving a jury the idea of HOW LONG it was between 7:11:47 and 7:16:11. He should walk around the inside of the courtroom, and see how many “laps” he can complete in this amount of time. Then ask the jury if they think Trayvon could have gone 300 ft in that amount of time?

  198. ZurichMike says:

    Amazing how 4 minutes seems to last an eternity.

  199. Someone even said here on TCH the other day MOM should start a stopwatch and show the 4 minutes to the jury.

  200. lorac says:

    I hope he ends this 4 minutes by saying that Rachel said he was at the fathers house and though he would help him.

  201. Facepalm says:

    What is this pause supposed to be?

  202. clerkdante says:

    4 minutes feels like an eternity.

    • NJVol says:

      So would 40 seconds of taking a beating and having your head smashed to the ground. I hope he also talks about how long GZ was taking a beating before he shot and pauses and doesn’t sit, but looks at his watch for a full 40 seconds.

  203. daman12013 says:

    Cell phones shouldn’t be allowed in the courtroom. Then again the Martin family has always looked so distraught to me. (sarc).

  204. arkansasmimi says:
  205. Lou says:

    awesome 4 minute reenactment

  206. LookBeforeYouLeap says:

    This closing is making me ill.

  207. pet says:

    I am listening to radio but just checked the live feed for the graphics. The feed looks over baldr’s shoulder with the big Burden of Proof poster staring straight at him!!! Love the visual!!

  208. Lou says:

    he NAILED it with the 4 minute demo. nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  209. Bijou says:

    I think that 4-minute ‘pause’ was very powerful.
    TM said he was “running”.

  210. clerkdante says:

    This is the part of the argument I’ve been waiting 17 months to hear.

  211. sbguy says:

    MOM pitching a shut out so far.

  212. caseyanderson2112 says:

    Okay, I’m impressed so far with MOM’s closing. I have never even heard of a defense attorney telling a jury he’s going to prove his client’s INNOCENCE and that struck me very hard.

    • 1harpazo says:

      Agree. MOM: “prove innocence beyond a reasonable doubt”…twice! What’s up with that?

      • kikkoman says:

        I think he’s threading on thin ice there. Might give the jurors the impression that the burden of proof is on HIM.
        He DID say numerous times that’s the state’s job to prove GZ’s guilt, but it wouldn’t hurt to point out the contrast.

      • caseyanderson2112 says:

        I count at least three times he’s said it to the jury. It’s very striking and I’m thrilled to see that he’s going for the whole enchilada. Forget “not guilty,” he’s INNOCENT.

  213. MOM’s calm and respectful demeanor is in sharp contrast to ANY of the prosecution’s lawyers. The State wants to get people, and the jury, riled up. MOM will keep them looking at the “evidence” instead of the emotion.

  214. twolaneflash says:

    I think Charmin’ is looking for a new toilet paper squeezing actor; BLDR looks like he got caught squeezing the Charmin’ this morning.

  215. lorac says:

    Loved that 4 minutes of silence. That was a long time for TM to get home…he laid in wait for GZ to come back past him…..absolutely priceless…….

  216. AghastInFL says:

    Effective use of time. One word to describe what I have heard thus far: Effective.

  217. BF4 says:

    Remind jurors that the law isn’t stupid, there is a reason why the burden of proof here is beyond a reasonable doubt, it doesn’t reach results just prosecutors raise their voices and stomp their feet …

  218. lorac says:

    George knows his brother Robert supports him 100% so he doesn’t need to sit there for George to know that. By the way where is Brandy Green the mother of the new baby from Tray Dad. I haven’t seen her at all….maybe because the truth is eating her alive:)

  219. arkansasmimi says:
  220. GZanon says:

    First Break:
    Que Talking Heads. Burning down the house..

    “…I don’t know what you expect staring into the TV set
    Fighting fire with fire….”

    Goooo!!! MoM!!!

  221. Joel P. says:

    At the risk of sounding biased, I’m finding O’Mara’s closing argument a whole lot more engaging than BDLR’s. BDLR was confusing and loud, and I found myself at numerous times dozing off, thinking about other things. MOM has done a good job in my opinion of telling a story, of detailing the evidence in a convincing and engrossing way. The time has flown by, which far cry from the snail’s pace it was going at during BDLR’s two and a half hour closing.

    • Lulu says:

      He continues to proclaim his client “innocent”. As I posted up the thread, this is powerful. Some countries have this verdict – it means the person didn’t commit the crime. Ours has “not guilty”. It means that the prosecutor did not prove guilt.

      Don’t know about you, but I prefer “innocent”.

  222. eastern2western says:

    everything I have been waiting for because no one cared to explain the 4 minutes of running to no where.

  223. talking2much says:

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
    The state does not look happy and neither do the Martins. We are in break.

  224. LookBeforeYouLeap says:

    IMO…this is awful…just awful :( This case has been saturated with corruption…and MOM is showing just how far it has gone.

  225. BF4 says:

    Keep hammering it MOM, keep hammering ….

    There is NO EVIDENCE to prove that GZ “prevented” TM from running home. He had plenty of time to make it back if he wanted to … he wasn’t afraid … he wanted to fight …

  226. John Galt says:

    MOM has mentioned not guilty of second degree murder a few times, yet to mention manslaughter.

  227. dawndoe says:

    I think MOM should reinforce and remind the jurors of the fact that GZ was on the phone with NEN for about 2 mins+(?) of those four minutes and had lost sight of TM.

  228. ctdar says:

    Oohh someone had ill will, spite, or hatred.
    Plan his move during the 4 minutes
    Someone = Trayvon Martin

  229. 1harpazo says:

    Early on, I thought that MOM’s closing was not looking good, but in the end, he did a great job in covering everything. Best thing was towards the end, “When you go back and have a reasonable doubt, you’re done.” Game over. Check “Not Guilty” (Innocent).

  230. thesitrep says:

    When you say dinner, do you mean supper?

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