Dear Mr. Security Agent….. A message from one who will not be disarmed to those who would be doing the disarming….

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Written by Matt Bracken

52-policeDear Mr. Security Agent, Federal, state, or local. You, the man or woman with the badge, the sworn LEO or FLEA and those who inhabit the many law enforcement niches in between and on all sides. This essay is directed to you, because in the end, how this turmoil about gun control turns out will depend largely upon your decisions and actions over the coming months and years.

I sincerely wish that members of Congress—who may soon be voting on new gun control measures—would read this essay, but I realize that’s a pipe dream, considering the impenetrable bubbles around those exalted entities. So I’ll settle for you, Mr. (or Ms.) Security Agent, since you already gobble up everything on the internet, and I don’t have to seek you out.

A decade ago I wrote the novel Enemies Foreign and Domestic, a tale about how tragic events involving the misuse of firearms can be used by an evil administration to misinform and mold public opinion to support its malign anti-freedom policies.

No, my novel was not predicting “Operation Fast and Furious” a decade before that covert policy of “pursuing gun control under the radar,” (which was President Obama’s explanation to Sarah Brady for his lack of overt political action). That inter-agency gun-walking policy, remember, resulted in the deaths of over four hundred Mexicans and two U.S. federal agents, murdered in an effort to discredit the Second Amendment and lead to more restrictive gun control laws in America. (If Nixon—or any Republican, for that matter—were in office, the intentional bloodbath would be called Murdergate, but today’s collaborating Woodwards and Bernsteins are in on the cover-up.)

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Instead of gun-walking thousands of AK-47s to Mexican drug cartel assassins (who would believe that?), Enemies Foreign and Domestic begins with a sniper opening fire on a packed football stadium. A thousand innocent fans die, some from the ninety bullets fired but most in the ensuing panic stampede. In a traumatized America, the fictional stadium massacre results in the banning of all semi-automatic rifles, with no buyback, no grandfathering of weapons already owned, and no sunset clause. Citizens had to turn them in for destruction or face years in federal prison.

The page-one stadium massacre was simply a plot device chosen to launch the story in high gear and set the stage to immediately and fully explore the main theme of the novel: the calculated transformation of our Constitutional republic into a socialist police state. Since I prefer to write tightly wound fiction transpiring at a rapid pace in a compressed time period, I examined the imposition of totalitarian controls over the course of just a few weeks, not years or decades.

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Consider: The TSA was born in the panicked backwash of 9/11, which is understandable given the events of that day, when Muslim maniacs screaming allahu akbar murdered 3,000 Americans and others in the name of Islamic global jihad. But a decade after 9/11, due entirely to political correctness, it’s completely out of the question to profile Mohammed at the airport yet absolutely necessary for that bloated agency to “randomly” select your pre-teen or teenage daughter for a body search performed by a government matron in a TSA uniform. This frequently under-the-clothes and against-the-skin complete body search may done in full public view, or in a hidden back room, solely at the discretion of the TSA agents involved.

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TSA BABY Pat Down

Meanwhile, Mom and Dad stand off to the side where they have been directed to wait, saying nothing, scarcely moving, avoiding random eye contact lest a TSA security agent catch a wayward smirk or utterance of protest. To pull out a cell phone camera at this time would surely invite arrest. To walk over and grab the matron by the arm is out of the question. Defending your child from the indignity would lead only to your being Tasered and handcuffed on the cold airport floor. After that, your entire family may wind up in some TSA airport detention cells, conveniently located right on your concourse and unknown to you until then. Better to stew in silence, let the incident pass, and try to forget it.

So in the year 2013, in the land of the free and the home of the brave, we stand with our eyes averted, burning with humiliation, while our spouses or children are groped above and below the waist by blue-gloved government prison guards—only we are in an airport in a free country, and not in a prison! (much, much, more)

(which concludes with this)……

You may consider the sentiments expressed above to be absurd, hyperbolic, dangerous, ridiculous, or simply wrong-headed. But please understand that tens of millions of Americans feel this way to their cores, and they will not be disarmed without a fight. Well-meaning but naive liberals should understand the certain-to-follow consequences of new gun control laws intended to disarm their fellow citizens in the name of “public safety.” LEOs and FLEAs should understand the dire consequences of participating in gun confiscation raids, in direct violation of their sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, including the Second Amendment.

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The unintended consequences of this misguided utopian fool’s crusade to ban guns would include a second civil war as agonizingly painful as the first one, if not more so, since there would be no front lines and no safe areas for anybody, anywhere. Every sane American wants to prevent such a calamitous outcome as a “dirty civil war” on United States soil.

But know this: those tens of millions will never be quietly disarmed and then later forced at government gunpoint onto history’s next boxcars. If boxcars and detention camps are to be in America’s future, then you, Mr. Security Agent, will have to disarm them the hard way first. Not Piers Morgan, not Michael Moore, not Rosie O’Donnell, not Dianne Feinstein, not Chuck Schumer.

You.

(FULL ARTICLE HERE)

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87 Responses to Dear Mr. Security Agent….. A message from one who will not be disarmed to those who would be doing the disarming….

  1. kinthenorthwest says:

    I posted this elsewhere….but it applies on this forum post too…
    The Obama Administration and many Dems in DC Keep trying to tell us that guns do not protect people. If that is so then why are all the security guards at the WH, protecting Obama, at the Senate and House carrying at least one, but usually two guns…
    If guns do not protect people then why not diarm the security in DC for the politicians, and hey lets go further and diarm all the police in America….then we can all join hands and sing kum by ya myLord as we all live in bliss….

    Now if you believe that then maybe you should move to Disneyland…but hate to tell you its probably not safe either…

  2. joe blogs says:

    stuff obama and his evil socialist whore government.

    • canadacan says:

      I think my head is going to explode . This woman is unbelievably evil What a hypocrite She has always been a nut case

      • howie says:

        She is on more drugs than the 3 murderers. If you just look at their pictures they all look the same. Brainwashed Zombies. A common thread.

    • thefirstab says:

      Thanks for the vids, waltherppk. With Feinstein, she states her attackers from 20 yrs ago used a bomb. Which, I believe, is illegal. So does she now think that if citizens give up their guns, the bad guys will also stop using bombs? Kind of like a moratorium on crime and violence?

      She’s a politician – just like Koch. THEY are the enemy, establishing the Us v. Them culture. All for me, and None for thee, indeed.

  3. Arkindole says:

    Glad you posted.
    III

  4. stellap says:

    This Land Is Mine (Charles Laughton), 1943:

  5. JAS says:

    Thanks so much for posting this. I read the whole thing and my first thought after was “God Help Us….”

  6. michellc says:

    At the meeting last night, although it was about steps to take to try and prevent legislation(Which may be hopeless, but at least we can say we tried), much of these same sentiments were spoken.

    One ol’ farmer kind of spoke for everyone, if you’re neighbor supports gun control or casts their vote for a forked tongue politician that supports gun control, they are your enemy and an enemy of America. Your brother, your child, any who support gun control or vote for snake oil politicians are now the enemy. He told of his 3 sons, all raised with a rifle in their hand and callouses on their hands. One still works the farm, one got into LE and one went away to some Ivy League School where he got all the common sense that was beat into his head for 18 years knocked right out of his head in a few years. He said he told his farm son, the day they ban guns, know without a doubt them parked at the farm telling you what you can plant is behind door two. He told his LE son that he loved him and would hate like hell to be forced to do it but if he came to take his guns, he’d fight him. He said that son told him, “Dad, there are some intelligent officers who understand when they disarm citizens, we’re just citizens and will be issued government weapons that we will turn in and have locked up at the end of our shift. Only the stupid men and women will follow orders that ultimately is their own demise.” He told the Ivy League son, that piece of paper he was so proud of and that cost the Dad a lot of money, blood, sweat and tears to him was a diploma for ignorance because these people who he rubs elbows with will turn on him and strike faster than a rattlesnake. That he would always love him, but he didn’t like him one bit and the day they ban guns is probably the day you don’t need to come around anymore unless you manage to find some of that common sense that is that brain of yours.

    Most were not ignorant or denying facts and realize that not obeying would probably mean they would either die or be locked up, but almost to a man and woman they said even knowing that they would not lay down. Because if you weren’t willing to fight for your God given rights then you aren’t willing to fight for anything.

    So this essay from what I got from a small sample is the honest truth that many Americans will not go down without a fight and then those responsible will have a lot of blood on their hands. So all those who work for the government need to seriously ask themselves if they’re willing to dip their hands in that blood?

  7. Brook says:

    This is going to eat up a lot of political capital and hopefully end in a deadlock, You’ve got 7 red state Senate Dems that do not want a vote on a gun control bill pre 2014.

    • Josh says:

      The full text of the proposed ordinance by Gilberton Burough Chief of Police Mark Kessler appears below:
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      2nd Amendment Preservation Ordinance
      AN Ordinance, which shall be known and may be cited as the “2nd Amendment Preservation Ordinance.”

      To prevent federal, State or local infringement on the right to keep and bear Firearms, Firearms accessories or ammunition ; nullifying all federal, state or local acts in violation of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States along with section 21 “Right to Bear Arms of the Pennsylvania constitution.

      THE PEOPLE OF THE BOROUGH OF GILBERTON DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

      SECTION 1
      The Governing body of the Borough of Gilberton within the state of Pennsylvania finds that:

      A. The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows, “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Along with Section 21 of the constitution of Pennsylvania which states, “Right to Bear Arms.” The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

      B. All federal, state or local acts, laws, orders, rules or regulations regarding firearms, Firearms accessories or ammunition are a violation of the 2nd Amendment along with section 21 of The Pennsylvania Constitution and in violation of this ordinance.

      SECTION 2
      PROHIBITIONS ON FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL INFRINGEMENT OF THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, FIREARMS ACCESSORIES OR AMMUNITION.

      A. The Governing Body of the Borough of Gilberton within the state of Pennsylvania declares that all federal ,state or Local acts, laws, orders, rules, regulations – past, present or future – shall be in violation of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Pennsylvania are not authorized by the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Pennsylvania and violate its true meaning and intent as given by the Founders and Ratifies, and are hereby declared to be invalid within Gilberton Borough and all of its boundaries , shall not be recognized by this Borough or within all of its boundaries within the state of Pennsylvania, are specifically rejected by the Borough of Gilberton and within all of its boundaries within the state of Pennsylvania, and shall be considered null and void and of no effect in the Borough of Gilberton within the state of Pennsylvania.

      B. It shall be the duty of the Governing body of Gilberton Borough and within all of its boundaries within the State of Pennsylvania to adopt and enact any and all measures as may be necessary to prevent the enforcement of any federal, state or local acts, laws, orders, rules, or regulations in violation of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States along with section 21 of the Pennsylvania Constitution or any violation of this ordinance.

      SECTION 3
      EFFECTIVE DATE

      A. This act takes effect thirty ( 30 ) days upon approval by the Governing body

      Contact:
      CHIEF OF POLICE
      MARK KESSLER
      GILBERTON BOROUGH POLICE DEPARTMENT
      2710 MAIN STREET
      MAHANOY PLANE, PA 17949

      • Josh says:

        2nd Amendment Preservation Ordinance
        Police Chief Mark Kessler, Borough of Gilberton, PA
        County of Schuylkill
        (570) 874-4790

  8. west1890 says:

    While they are very publicly attacking the right to own guns, what else are they doing behind closed doors? Distraction is the hallmark of these spawn of Hell. Will we wake up tomorrow morning to find that the great satan Obama has given amnesty to all the illegals via another one of his ‘not worth the toilet paper it’s written on’ executive orders? Always watch what the other hand is doing. In regard to their all out assault on gun ownership- I think they are biting off way more than they can chew and they will likely choke on it.

  9. ThatOldGuy says:

    http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/archives/5345

    My Line In The Sand Is Drawn Here!

    “My line in the sand is drawn here!

    Make no mistake about it: it is not just semi-automatic rifles that these gun grabbers are after. Ultimately, they want to take all of our guns. We either stop them now or there will be no stopping them at all.

    It is no hyperbole to say that this attempt by people such as Barack Obama and Dianne Feinstein to make outlaws out of law-abiding citizens for simply exercising our right to keep and bear arms is the most important political battle of our lifetimes! I am not exaggerating when I say that the future of freedom and liberty for our children and for our country–not to mention the future of our own personal lives and freedom–hang in the balance.”

    • howie says:

      You speak the truth. Ask any one of them if all guns should be banned. If they are honest they answer yes. But this is just the first step in the process. “Stakeholders,” must be appeased and assimilated first. I personally think it is already too late from what I see happening. Socialism is here and it will all be downhill now. Who knows where it will all end up.

    • Josh says:

      So…what are YOU going to do about it?

      • howie says:

        We are Fred Karno’s army,
        The ragtime infantry,
        We cannot fight, we cannot shoot,
        No bloody use are we;
        But when we get to Berlin
        The Kaiser he will say,
        Hoch! Hoch! Mein Gott!
        What a bloody fine lot

      • SR says:

        This is the question and I wish we spent more time talking about possible ways of organizing a resistance. If, and a big if, this confiscation is allowed to pass congress we have only a few months to prepare. Maybe the 2nd Amendment Preservation Ordinance is an idea that will catch on.

        I am starting to work with our state concealed carry organization and two of our local gun clubs. Other than join a couple of the national groups like NRA, I feel I can be much more productive at the local level.

        • Josh says:

          THANK YOU, SR. I, too, “wish we spent more time talking about possible ways of organizing…” It sounds like YOU are doing something and I appreciate that. I also agree that one “can be much more productive at the local level.”

          I wish there were more discussion of what others are doing in their community to make a change. We must back those good people in our communities that are trying to do the right thing.

        • Ad rem says:

          Or perhaps consider joining the more conservative group…Gun Owners of America (GOA). They did NOT have a hand in supporting Joe Manchin for Senate. :evil:

      • ThatOldGuy says:

        It’s nice to see some states considering secession. Unfortunately, their representatives are asking the federal government permission via electronic petition, which defeats the purpose of the action on the one hand, but is a safe move considering what happened last time states tried to secede from what *was* a voluntary union. There is no justification to bind someone, or some group of people, to a political union against their will. The freedom of association is spelled out very clearly in the first amendment. And the contention that the right to secede is not a right that Americans have–that this right is not embodied in the ninth and tenth amendments, is not the very pith of the Declaration of Independence (nor the very substance of the Revolutionary War!)–will have to be demonstrated.

        I think it would be counterproductive to treat something like this within politics. I would organize a platform to speak out and build and focus sentiments among local organizations. It’s just like the recent post, here, regarding those who are afraid about voicing their concerns publicly–make it odd to not voice one’s concerns publicly. Organize. A lot of people are unwilling or not able to see the parallels between what’s happening here and what has happened throughout history. The biggest mass murderer in all of human history is not the isolated deranged individual, but the deranged individual at the head of the machinery of coercion–the state: hundreds of millions of people were murdered in the twentieth century alone at the hands of government brutality. What the state calls mass murderers now, idiotic individuals who perpetrate crimes in isolated incidents, pales in comparison to the crimes that the state carries out.

        What would also be helpful is a movement towards civil disobedience.

        Don’t get me wrong–I’m not advocating that one get a firearm and brandish it in order to exercise one’s second amendment rights. For instance, there are laws against dancing at the Jefferson Memorial in DC. People have been arrested for doing so. What we need is a change in attitude in this country toward the political class: We’re not subjects, we have rights, we don’t give a damn what laws you’ll pass and neither a king’s edict nor a president’s executive order will take something that is intrinsic to our very humanity. I think, in particular regard to the what’s happening with firearms, the most appropriate action would be to have a public burning of firearm permits. The movement will be all the more powerful if the leaders of the movement are not politicians. Those who lead the movement will be a naturally recognized elite–the most articulate, the most capable, and the most informed will rise to the top of this movement by necessity. The recognition will be voluntary and beneficial for everyone involved (because it is voluntary).

        A very powerful image and story that comes to mind is the Biblical passage where God instructs Isaiah. An essay was written by Nock on the applicability of this story to modern day political movements. Here’s the back and forth in layman’s terms, and paraphrased for the political situation here–

        God said to Isaiah:

        “Tell them what is wrong, and why and what is going to happen unless they have a change of heart and straighten up. Don’t mince matters. Make it clear that they are positively down to their last chance. Give it to them good and strong and keep on giving it to them. I suppose perhaps I ought to tell you,” He added, “that it won’t do any good. The official class and their intelligentsia will turn up their noses at you and the masses will not even listen. They will all keep on in their own ways until they carry everything down to destruction, and you will probably be lucky if you get out with your life.”

        Now, Isaiah had not been reluctant to take on his divinely appointed task, but when it was put to him like that, it seemed like a fruitless task indeed. What was the point of embarking on a mission that was doomed to failure?

        “Ah,” the Lord said, “you do not get the point. There is a Remnant there that you know nothing about. They are obscure, unorganized, inarticulate, each one rubbing along as best he can. They need to be encouraged and braced up because when everything has gone completely to the dogs, they are the ones who will come back and build up a new society; and meanwhile, your preaching will reassure them and keep them hanging on. Your job is to take care of the Remnant, so be off now and set about it.”

        –So right now it is our jobs, as concerned individuals, to seek out and find this remnant. Cultivate it. Let the remnant know that they have allies that are willing to make their sentiments go public and stick it to the state.

        As for me, I’m going to devote time to reading and to learning. Sound economics and political theory, and dissemination of the knowledge of both to one’s peers, are what will make for a peaceful and prosperous society. Ideas must come first. Dissemination of the ideas comes second; the means by which these ideas are spread can vary from public organization to private blogging and message sending. The revolution must, first and foremost, be an intellectual one. As Ludwig von Mises once said,

        “In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrants feet. Then the oppressed many will rise in rebellion and overthrow their masters. … In a battle between force and an idea, the latter always prevails.”

      • Sharon says:

        You might not want to “go there” Josh–or anyone else either. Funny things happen when we start challenging individuals about what “YOU” are going to do…for public service….like doing volunteer work at the USO and stuff……

        Long story. Everyone–do yourself a favor. Do not start demanding that individuals account to you for what they’re going to “do” about anything.

        I’m a mod, but am posting this openly under my name so’s not to have it look like an unknown person is saying mysterious things.

        And no, I won’t explain further.

      • WeeWeed says:

        Well, Josh, if we TOLD you, it wouldn’t be much of a SURPRISE, would it????

      • Menagerie says:

        Your intent may be to challenge people to action, but this is not the proper way to do it. Treepers do not have to answer or explain themselves to others. Again, there are more appropriate ways to call to action.

      • sundance says:

        Josh, I doubt your intent was to demand action – but I will assert what other admins have noted. Freedom is personal. Individual Freedom is individually personal.

        While you might state your own intent, and I would advise prudent consideration for unintended consequences in doing so, it should never be stated in a framework to demand the same by others.

        Each person has a threshold of comfort, some more, some less than others. There is no litmus test for behavior OR tolerance.

        The general principle is freedom. You define yours, and each defines theirs – to the extent that no definitions interfere in anothers.

  10. brocahontas says:

    Defy executive orders. Obama only has power because we believe and agree he has power. Without his henchmen he is little different than the homeless guy on the corner.

    • howie says:

      King Obama will do as he pleases unless the congress stops him. If they do not…then he is King. So far he appears to be the King.

      • brocahontas says:

        Just because no one challenges him does not mean anyone supports him.

        • tessa50 says:

          I understand your point, but if no challenge then they might as well just say they support. To me having been reading and learning quite a bit, I really think this will be an executive order. I had stupidly asked here how he could do that and was told rightly same way as he has been. So to me, either individual congressmen and women say flat out no no no and fight like heck, he will do it

          • tessa50 says:

            my point being I dont see the fight against his executive orders

            • Sharon says:

              I haven’t even noticed an acknowledgement that they are conscious of what he is doing. It is as though they are unaware. Completely unaware.

              • tessa50 says:

                Scares the pickles out of me, I have family that pretty much thinks I am nuts, they say the goverment will never do this, so I ask and who do you mean when you say govt.? Answer I get is there will never be a gun take back, not here, ok, and who will stop them?

                People really don’t seem to understand just how fast this can happen and I keep getting hit with brick walls–I didnt even get the executive order thng till reading here and asking how can that happen, well, because like I was told no one is STOPPING him–and that is true

                • Sharon says:

                  “How do you know that?” is sometimes a fun question to ask folks who poo-poo all the concerns. It doesn’t solve anything…but it’s fun to require them to back up their declarations with actual evidence or sources. Keep in mind that when they make the declarations they do, their goal is not to reassure you: it’s to shut you up because you are trying to deal with reality-based threats, and they don’t want to.

              • Sharon says:

                tessa50, even though there is that sickening sinking moment when we acknowledge that it is as bad (and worse) that we would have accused anyone of doing, we don’t get stuck there. I don’t know how to explain my thoughts, but I know this: simply “being afraid of the clarity” is not a place we need to take up residency. I realized some time ago in life that resisting clarity (the facts about anything that is frightening) was just as costly to my mental and emotional and spiritual well-being, and usually more costly–than facing up to it. It was more costly because it was never-ending. When I face up to it (whether over a period of days or weeks or months) THAT there is an end to!

                There is a point where we look around as we get our bearings in the maelstrom and somehow, there is something of PC (in this case PERSONAL COURAGE) that says, “Ok. So here I stand. This is nasty. But I’m still breathing.”

                I don’t know how it happens, because it’s not mysterious or weird. It is a natural process. But in some way, we do become desensitized, and we do process the thing. Then we become able to pick one little bit of something that we can understand (that we didn’t understand in 2011). We discover, over there on the table, one other little bit, and think, “Good grief. I think this fits with that other piece.” And we check–and sure enough. It fits.

                At that moment, we are better equipped to move forward and to think clearly than we have ever been. We’ve looked the fear and the enemy in the face. And we discover we’re still standing.

                Personal courage is strange. It’s a very, very private thing. But it’s also a very public and “with others” thing somehow. One of the purposes of the Treehouse is to provide a place where we can practice facing fears that we would rather not have to face, and then we discover that we actually do keep on breathing, and we are aware of a sense of partnership with others.

                We realize that we’re not crazy. We’re not imagining how bad things are. We are not alone. And while we don’t know exactly what to do–we stand together. We’re Americans. With trust in Almighty God and counting on one another’s companionship–we stand in place. Together.

                They have deception on their side. We have truth. It may take time. But truth wins. Every time. Eventually. Every time.

                • tessa50 says:

                  “We realize that we’re not crazy. We’re not imagining how bad things are. We are not alone. And while we don’t know exactly what to do–we stand together.”

                  That pretty much sums it up. The fear comes from just can’t believing this could be happening. Also from realizing how many do not see it. It is scary but you are right. We cannot get bogged down in a sense of hopelessness, not in any way am I trying to put words in your mouth, just what I understood you to mean. I just feel so helpless against what I call the obama machine–nothing seems to stop him, but at least I know what is coming

                  • Sharon says:

                    Understood–you express it well. And these are awful things to try to express, are they not.

                    Psalm 46:7, 11

                    Both say the same “The Lord of (the) Hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge.”

    • Sharon says:

      Even with his henchmen, he is little different than the homeless guy on the corner.

      I don’t believe or agree that he has power. Congress is ok with his abuse of power. I’m not exactly in a position to personally “defy executive orders” in a way that he would notice. He has power because Congress is not asserting fulfilling their responsibility.

  11. howie says:

    I was checking the history. Turns out the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists. A troop of Redcoats set out from Boston to raid the colonists powder and shot stash in Concord. Paul Revere found out and rode ahead to warn them. The colonists were waiting for them. That was the start of the revolution. Gun Grabbers.

  12. ottawa925 says:

    “Weapons designed for the battlefield have no home in our streets.” ~Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

    Our streets ARE a battlefield. And when you factor in that citizens will be up against military style weapons of enforcers of government agencies, all the more reason you better have something more than a peeshooter.

    • ottawa925 says:

      Citizens will have Criminals to the Right and law ENFORCEMENT to the left.

    • michellc says:

      She should show the proof where one weapon designed for the battlefield has been used in any of these shootings.
      It’s a good line, but is nothing but a bold face lie.

    • west1890 says:

      Giffords was an idiot even before she was shot

    • WeeWeed says:

      Ummmm, no – in her case that’s more of that “guns for ME, but not for THEE” crap. They can all pound sand, and right this exact minute, they know it.

    • Sharon says:

      “Cowards who care nothing for their own freedom and skulk around plotting against the free citizens have no right to be in positions of authority and influence in this formerly free nation.” –Citizen Sharon Amberanagussen

    • ThatOldGuy says:

      One of the things that bothers me with statements like this, is the subjectivistic nature of “design” and “values.”

      Since the Marginalist Revolution in economics (Menger, Jevons, and Walras) goods have been recognized as having their value being imputed unto them by market actors. The Austrian school of economics has been the most consistent in recognizing this fundamental economic truth. Only the actor can give a “preferred description” of his/her action.

      If I walk down the street I am doing any number of things: I am moving oxygen atoms; I’m stepping on the ground in alternating steps; I’m moving the hair on top of my head; I’m breathing in and out; I’m swaying my arms. However, if one were to approach me and ask, “Hey, TOG. What are you up to?” I’d respond, “I’m getting something to eat–care to join me?” In giving that description of my action, I am expressing what value I impute onto what my body is then doing under my will. No other person can know my values. I can be behaving according to many rules, but I define the rule by which I am behaving.

      To the soldier, if the soldier is regarded as being an ideal type, the weapon he carries while on the battlefield can be called a weapon designed for the battlefield. After all, it was manufactured and distributed to him for that purpose by the US government and its associated contractors. The only means by which this conclusion can be reached is by actions, by the preferred description of actors involved.

      The classification of a good, according to its value, is not fixed. The classification changes based on ownership, on who the actor is in the situation. After all, a publisher can create a book for the buyer to read; if I’m stranded on an island that’s particularly cold at night, and have no dry kindling, I may consider using the book as kindling. The book is not a book, but kindling. The same with firearms: they can be trophies, they can be mounted on the wall to never be used, they can be used to shoot at targets at gun ranges, they can be used as fashion statements, they can be used in self-defense, they can be used to terrorize. These are not the only uses for guns.

      It’s epistemologically/economically meaningless to assert one value, which is arbitrary, from the point of view of someone (who is a non-actor with respect to the gun) as an absolute value (i.e. good X serves this purpose and this purpose only). The shop-owners in LA (1992) weren’t using weapons “designed for the battlefield” but weapons “designed for self-defense” or “designed for property protection” or “designed for security” or “designed for taking out thugs” or so on. A good, its “goods-character” is subjective. It’s not the object that has “inherent value” but the actor that assigns value to each good according to his/her imputation of value to something s/he considers to be a “good.”

      • GracieD says:

        Re: “Battlefield Weapons”-My GSF (God-Sent Friend), who also happens to be a retired Navy SEAL, can turn just about anything into a “Battlefield Weapon”. What are they gonna do about the knives, clubs, etc.?

        • ThatOldGuy says:

          That’s a good question. There’s been a bit of talk about Jones’ interview with Morgan here (in this thread: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/01/09/wednesday-open-thread-january-9th/#comment-284533; I have a response to this post by 22tula underneath that post) and some of the stats he brings up to back his contention that we ought to respect the second amendment. In that post, 22tula posts a couple of videos of Jones and Morgan.

          At any rate, Jones brings up that the UK has the highest crime rate of any country in the EU. The underlying assumption, of most on the other side of this debate, is that a reduction in gun homicide will mean a reduction in crime and homicide overall. This isn’t the case. Assuming a law is effective, removing a means of murder doesn’t remove the will to murder; it removes the means to murder. People will just go from one means to the next.

      • howie says:

        Lib answer…It must be taxed for redistribution purposes.

  13. Sharon says:

    http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/obama-ends-restrictions-on-saudis-entering-u-s-60-increase-since-2010/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    And the rate will increase in 2013. Or as Infidel Bloggers Alliance more aptly titles their post, Obama Regime Ends Post-9/11 Restrictions On Wahhabis Entering U.S. From Saudi Arabia. Almost all the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. via World Tribune

    ABU DHABI — The United States, a decade after Al Qaida strikes in New York and Washington, has opened its doors to Saudi nationals.

    Diplomats said the administration of President Barack Obama has removed most restrictions on the entry of Saudis to the United States. They said the percentage of visa approvals for Saudis has reached unprecedented levels.

    “The United States aims to raise the number of visas that it issues annually, particularly to Saudi nationals, who represent an important group,” Joseph Hood, U.S. consul-general in the Saudi city of Dhahran, said.

    Hood cited economic reasons for the easing of restrictions on Saudis. He said Saudi businessmen and students have been allowed to enter the United States in record numbers, with a 60 percent increase since 2010.

    It stands to reason, I guess, since the goal of this government is to minimize the influence of actual Americans.

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