Day One – Bill One: Gun Ban Legislation Revealed, 120+ Banned Weapons Including Handguns, All Must Be Registered or Confiscated

Here’s that “Moderate” Gun Reform as promised: In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devises.

      1. Introduce Updated Assault Weapons Bill in New Congress, December 17, 2012
      2.  Statement on Connecticut School Shooting, December 14, 2012

Summary of 2013 legislation – Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

      • 120 specifically-named firearms
      • Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
      • Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

      • Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
      • Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
      • Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:

      • Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
      • Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
      • Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

      • Background check of owner and any transferee;
      • Type and serial number of the firearm;
      • Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
      • Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
      • Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

A pdf of the bill summary is available here.

(There is way more within the details, including the “grandfathered gun registration or confiscation)

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111 Responses to Day One – Bill One: Gun Ban Legislation Revealed, 120+ Banned Weapons Including Handguns, All Must Be Registered or Confiscated

  1. howie says:

    In order to have a total police state all subjects must be disarmed. This would enslave the world.

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    • t hadden says:

      That is where Obama and friends are heading. The New World Order need have no one possessing firearms except them the UN. That is how to rule the world. Where the anti-Christ will appear in his armor. Insulation against any and all oppositions. One who possess the nature of his father the Devil. DREAMS OF MY FATHER by Barack Obama

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  2. LouDaJew says:

    I do believe most 9mms accept more than 10 rounds. so that means all future gun purchases will be California Compliant. there needs to be better hidden gun safes made is my first thought. there should be a big market for that because up to now hidden gun safes aren’t that creative. hopefully this gets rejected and any politician Democrat or Republican that is anti- Second Ammendment never gets elected again.

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    • sundance says:

      If your 9mm handgun is semi-automatic it is an assault weapon.

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    • lovemygirl says:

      A Barrett M107A1 holds 10 rounds.

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    • ftsk420 says:

      The 9mm I have holds 16 rounds.

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    • jordan2222 says:

      You said: “there needs to be better hidden gun safes made is my first thought.”

      I do not own a gun safe nor have I ever.. nor did my family. Out guns were loaded and readily accessible to me and my siblings when I was growing up.

      I have one brother who has a gun safe but that is for rarely used guns that are best kept in temperature and humidity controlled conditions.

      I do have a gun cabinet but I also keep loaded guns that I can grab immediately. My daughters are both grown, but knew exactly what to do with loaded guns, if the need arose.

      I suppose a gun safe might be a good idea for parents who either have not educated their children or who choose to keep the guns away out of their reach.

      I am speaking primarily about shotguns and rifles.. not handguns.

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    • richard says:

      I for one wont hide them. If they want mine they will get to see them one last time right before they make the biggest mistake of thier lives by trying to take them away.

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  3. howie says:

    What part of shall not be infringed do they not understand. These are Nazis.

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  4. brocahontas says:

    So, these measures might decrease the murders in the US by? < .5% ? Yeah, this is about making the country safe. Maybe for suburban white people a little. Have they considered that they are making one third of the population de facto criminals?

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    • howie says:

      This won’t end well.

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    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      “There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

      -Ayn Rand

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    • John Mclachlan says:

      The <0.5% reduction in murders would be offset, by many more additional murders, when the law abiding were no longer able to protect themselves from private criminals. Later, the genocidal tendencies of progressives, when they have secured civilian disarmament will be indulged by government criminals, following the protocols which William Ayres and his intellectual cohorts have developed.

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  5. Photographs, fingerprints, second background checks, registration of already-legally-owned guns?
    This may not end well at all.
    No, this will -definitely- not end well :evil:

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  6. stellap says:

    Just reading this now. DHS Insider.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005

    So what I’m telling you is that DHS, the TSA and certain, but not all, law enforcement agencies are going to be elbow deep in riot control in response to an economic incident. At the same time or close to it, gun confiscation will start. It will start on a voluntary basis using federal registration forms, then an amnesty, then the kicking-in of doors start.

    Before or at the same time, you know all the talk of lists, you know, the red and blue lists that everyone made fun of? Well they exist, although I don’t know about their colors. But there are lists of political dissidents maintained by DHS. Names are coordinated with the executive branch, but you know what? They did not start with Obama. They’ve been around in one form or another for years. The difference though is that today, they are much more organized. And I’ll tell you that the vocal opponents of the politics of the global elite, the bankers, and the opponents of anything standing in their way, well, they are on the top of the list of people to be handled.

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  7. lovemygirl says:

    The only sane thing this bill has in it is “Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the (naughty) characteristics test”.

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    • howie says:

      There is nothing sane about it. At all.

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    • LouDaJew says:

      I may be wrong, but believe today most AR’s with flash suppressors are threaded so you can put a different flash suppressor on.

      also, hopefully (for my purposes) gun manufacturers will produce more carbines that are 9mm’s like the Beretta CX4. frangible ammo is expensive when you own a rifle that shoots .223.

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    • jordan2222 says:

      That caught me eye, too and it makes no sense. Is this supposed to be some kind of concession?

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  8. BertDilbert says:

    Criminals don’t want you to have guns and congress are criminals.

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  9. howie says:

    We have here. Assault Politician and Assault Media.

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  10. lovemygirl says:

    I wish we could get a list of what the 120 specifically banned weapons are. When people actually see their weapon on a list they will wake up from their delusional slumber.

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  11. LouDaJew says:

    also, what the heck is a thumbhole stock? I think she meant a bumpfire stock. I think only one company makes it Slide Fire.

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  12. Knuckledraggingwino says:

    Check out the FBI data on trends in weapons used in homicides.

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

    Both the absolute number of rifles used to commit homicides and the percentage of weapons used in homicides are continuing the historic, downward trend.

    We don’t have a problem with assault rifles. We have a problem with assaultive people.

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  13. LouDaJew says:

    here is the bumpfire stock I a referring to.

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  14. elvischupacabra says:

    These bastards have, in true Alinsky fashion, taken a select-fire automatic/semi-automatic rifle and turned it into first, a semi-automatic rifle and now, a semi-automatic pistol.

    Notice the “grandfathered weapons” provisions.

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  15. knuckledragingwino says:

    The problem isn’t guns. The problem is that clearance rates for crime, particularly murder and other violent crimes, remain abysmally low.

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table_25

    Keep in mind that back in the 1950s and early 1960s, cleanse rates for murder we typically about 95% compared to 64% today.

    Notice how the clearance rates for big cities are much lower than small towns and rural or suburban counties. The movie “In the Heat of the Night” got it wrong. It is the redneck sheriff who will solve the murder, not some smart ass, big city detective.

    I repeat, rather than ban classes of guns that aren’t used to commit murder, why not arrest the police who allow criminals to get away with murder?

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  16. czarowniczy says:

    Fundamentally this would eliminate ALL pistols with a detachable magazine as it’s possible to create a hi-cap magazine for any pistol that has a detachable magazine. As for the fixed-magazine weapon that would accept more than ten rounds that would eliminate the SKS AND could eliminate ALL Mauser and Remington 700 bolt action rifles as both have the ability to accept after-market magazine wells that take magazines and a greater-than-ten-round magazine could be built for them. See how the bill can be parsed to include guns you’d never even thought could be included? Then we will see if the bill allows the government to eliminate, through parsing, entire series of revolvers as some were built to take more than 6 rounds after the 1994 ban and some, especially .22 rim fire, were designed to take more than 6 rounds long before the 1994 ban.

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    • LouDaJew says:

      I’d like to see the list, but most full size 9mm’s accept more than 10 rounds. where the heck is the NRA?

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      • michellc says:

        They and GOA will be there when the time is right. Let the holiday season end and let the bill be introduced and then they’ll get busy.

        What she’s letting us see right now is already a gross overreach. Wait until the good stuff comes to light, such as buy backs, confiscation and the list of weapons. I can almost guarantee the bill will be written to where even a bb gun could be banned. It won’t say that but the language will be such that it can easily be twisted to include them.

        In some ways this could be a good thing. Democrats sat in the background licking their wounds refusing to even mention guns biding their time until they thought the masses weren’t paying attention and enough were dependent on the government to come back with gun bans. Give them the rope they will hang themselves.
        What we have to worry the most about imho are the wolves in sheep clothing.

        I actually feel better than worse after reading this and for the first time since election night I can see the sun breaking through the clouds.
        If we had smart people in Washington they’d let them have what they want on the fiscal cliff, just vote present, let the Democrats have that around their neck and top it off with the gun grabbing Democrats. This is assuming though there isn’t too many of those wolves in sheep clothing.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        We’ve been asking that for years

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    • lovemygirl says:

      I’m already designing in my head a speed loader with a fixed magazine that reloads as quickly as a “detachable” magazine. I guess a single stack .45ACP will become more popular than the 9mm as the handgun of choice. These morons are a scary bunch.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Again, the operand word is ‘detachable’/. If the weapon’s magazine can be removed, single or double stack, a larger-than-ten mag could be built making it a prohibited weapon. A-holes yes, morons no – they know good and well how they are phrasing this bill, it’s been in the works long before the CT shooting, the shooting was just the lever they needed to force the issue. Think 1911A-1 – it has a single-stack magazine that has makers fabricating more-than-ten mags for it now.

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  17. czarowniczy says:

    Oh, shotguns, I forgot their parsing shotguns. Pump and semiauto shotguns would be history as just about every one of them has the capability to extend the tube magazine built on to it. Again, they are looking at a traditional aristocratic European system where the only rifles or shotguns allowed are drilling-type with double or at most triple single-shot barrels. Next will be ammunition caliber and allowable quantity limits.

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    • lovemygirl says:

      The X-Rail will be history. If this went through the normal process it hopefully would never pass both Houses but I am extremely afraid they will bypass the entire process somehow.

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    • cajunkelly says:

      czar,
      Do you think our state laws (specifically the new one) can trump this BS?

      I know a lot of NRA life member who are going to be *livid* if the NRA doesn’t come out swinging *soon* about this outrage.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        No, state laws are subject to Federal law and this was already addressed in Montana, last year, when Montana passed a law that made all guns totally manufactured within the state confines of Montana subject solely Montana state law the Feds sent the an ‘In Your Dreams’ letter with numerous legal cites backing up the Fed’s position. I always thought that Wickard v. Filburn would be the club the Feds hit the states over the head with. The Supreme Court basically said that the Feds could control the production of anything that might enter, on purpose or accidentally, interstate commerce. The Feds can always have the Supreme Court redefine what the 2nd Amendment means or, as they have the power to do so, just have the Supreme Court say that there’s an overriding public safety issue at play and the Constitution needs to be tweaked. They did it with abortion by redefining the fetus as a non-person, even one at 9 months with a foot still in the womb. Looking at it in that vein guns would be small potatoes.

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  18. lovemygirl says:

    What type of weapons will Obama’s civilian defence force as strong and well funded as the U.S. military have?

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  19. LouDaJew says:

    notice how they are using the theme of hunting to back up their bill. the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting.
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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  20. lovemygirl says:

    I think Dianne should personally try to disarm this lady.

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  21. mcfyre2012 says:

    They are making a far-reaching bill and do not expect it to pass. What they are trying to do is to get SOMETHING on gun control so that they can make an in-road to get rid of guns altogether. They know it will take years, but they want to start with something. Give them an inch…and it WILL become a mile.

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  22. cajunkelly says:

    “Protects legitimate hunters”

    WTH is a “legitimate hunter” and how does one go about proving they are one? Shall I show ‘em the venison in my freezer? Naw, they’ll say someone else could have killed that. Preserved hides? Horns? Nope, can’t prove they’re yours.

    These people are, IMO, stepping into treason zone.

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  23. cajunkelly says:

    We, who have never committed a crime, much less a gun crime, are being punished for the sins of thugs, gangsters, illegals and mentally/emotionally defectives.

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    • kadar2012 says:

      We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
      Ronald Reagan

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  24. cajunkelly says:

    BTW folks, you do realize that even with the grandfathering, the “no transfer” means you cannot pass these guns down to your children and/or grandchildren.

    In 25 years we will be a gunless nation.

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  25. cajunkelly says:

    “It will be carefully focused on the most dangerous guns that have killed so many people over the years”

    I challenge that wench to show me ONE instance where a gun jumped up, ran over and killed someone.

    We should start a recall right now, on every elected official who votes for this blatant failure to keep their oath and violate the 2nd Amendment.

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    • cajunkelly says:

      UH OH, DH (home sick today) just dragged out his pocket copy of the constitution! LOL, he may break his “read only, doesn’t post” track record.

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    • Sharon says:

      If you want to do recalls, better do them quickly while the process for implementing a successful recall can still be made to work. HRHobama may sign an executive order stating that recalls must be approved by the White House. I’m not kidding.

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    • knuckledragingwino says:

      If Fienstien was genuine about targeting only guns that have been used to kill so many people over the years, then all rifles would be exempt.

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  26. cajunkelly says:

    There are a lot of grandparents who need to not wait any longer to pass down those family heirloom guns to their grandchildren.

    I’ll be talking to my dad tonight. He has a single shot 16 guage that was his brother’s (who died young..16 yrs old). While it’s not on the current list (that I can tell), who knows?

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  27. cajunkelly says:

    Article 3 Section 4,
    The United States SHALL (not will, or may) guarantee to *every* state in this Union a republican form of government and shall protect each of them against invasion;

    Now, this invasion clause means foreign OR domestic.

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  28. Michelle Hart says:

    Is it just me or did nobody notice this -> LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE USED!!!!

    ALL modern weapons will have ONLY 1 OF THREE modes of operation. Gas operated, recoil operated, or manual operation.

    1 – Most shotguns and rifles have a lever, pump or bolt action
    (manual reload or semi/partial automatic)
    2 – Some shotguns and rifles will reload only after they are fired
    (self loading or automatic – gas or recoil operation)
    3 – Pistols are either a manual reload an automatic reload or both called “double action”
    (revolver is manual the cylinder must rotate / modern pistols the recoil reloads the weapon)

    A – The M-249 Squad Automatic Weapon, the M-60, and Model 1911 are RECOIL operated weapons which will automatically chamber the next round and fire if the trigger it pulled
    B – The AR-15, M-16, and AK-47 are GAS operated weapons and do the EXACT same thing
    C – Most newer “tactical” shotguns are RECOIL or GAS operated again they function the EXACT same way as a “machine gun” does.

    THEY ARE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS…. They “automatically” reload the next cartridge without the user manually moving the bolt or action. There is NO mention of rate of fire, or TYPE of fire!! A “machine gun” will continue to reload “automatically” until the ammunition is used up or the trigger is no longer held. The common Ruger 10-22 is an “automatic weapon” based on this definition

    THINK!!!
    1 – SEMI ( partial ) AUTOMATIC rifles, handguns, shotguns…

    Manual, pump, bolt or lever action – Gas & Recoil operation isn’t even mentioned!!

    2 – FIXED MAGAZINE that can accept more than 10 rounds…

    Most shotguns, lever actions, that are older with longer barrels

    3 – Exempting antique, manually-operated

    Remember Gas, Recoil, or manual operation so “partial automatic” is ok if it’s an antique??

    There is not a SINGLE modern firearm that is not covered by this list NOT ONE!!

    Do you think for one second the CRIMINALS running the “justice department” wont use “automatic” or “fixed magazine” to confiscate anything short of a matchlock??

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    • Michelle Hart says:

      Oh and for those that want to be a smartass…. The GE Minigun is a MANUALLY operated weapon. Just like the old gatling gun it is manually fired by rotating the barrels into position before the cartridge is fired.

      In order to fire the gears must be cranked into position to cycle the NEXT cartridge. The REASON it fires so fast its the electric motor placed on it to run the gears faster than anyone could ever hope to crank them by hand.

      Gas operation, Recoil Operation, or Manual Operation are the only three possible ways to fire any small arm on the planet currently.

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    • sundance says:

      Give Michelle Hart a fish. I have been trying to tell people this for two weeks. If the “next round” *automatically cycles*, then the weapon is, under this pending legislative proposal, illegal.

      Meaning only Bolt Action rifles and Revolvers will be permitted for citizens.

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      • Michelle Hart says:

        Bolt, pump, and lever action are ALSO ILLEGAL because all the modern ones DO NOT qualify as “antique manually operated” weapons.

        Because each one is…. wait for it….. partially automatic or SEMI automatic.. It’s just the usual word games the communists always use!!

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  29. cajunkelly says:

    DH and I want to know the origin and history of each of the three Bushmaster AR15s used in the last three killings.
    It still bugs me that it’s such an unbelievable coincidence that that same BRAND was used.

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    • Michelle Hart says:

      The “Bushmaster” is not an “AR-15″ they don’t even make them anymore unless you can find an Armalite/Stoner dealer someplace. Bushmaster is just the name of the company that built another clone of the original AR-10 design by Stoner that was sold to Colt which eventually produced them for the Army which renamed it the M-16

      The AR-15 was originally made by Armilite as a civilian variant of the M-16 that Colt made for the Army back in 69. The original Armalite isn’t even in business anymore and Colt does still make the AR-15 copy and Bushmaster is just one more company who makes a copy using the AR-10 blueprints

      It’s kinda like a Ford and a Chevy… Both are cars, but they are not the same thing.

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  30. brocahontas says:

    OK, so how do we organize a protest or whatever?

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  31. lovemygirl says:

    Conspicuously missing from her bill is any steps to get the illegal guns out of criminal hands.

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  32. Ron says:

    Join Oathkeepers

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  34. Chip Bennett says:

    The Second Amendment is what protects free citizens from tyrants like Diane Feinstein.

    Fortunately, liberal tyrants tend to overplay their hands, just as Feinstein is doing here. This is no rider or amendment to separate legislation. This isn’t couched in deceptive wording, or buried in the tax code (like ObamaCare). She is actually trying to pass this bill out in the open.

    And that won’t happen.

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  35. brocahontas says:

    I think it may be helpful to try to understand these “liberal” types from their own point of view. Relativity applies not only to physical frames of reference to also to cultural frames of relevance as well. I’m not saying that all moral frameworks are equal but that the view of “oneself” and the “other” varies between constituents of various points of view. I think that understanding how others(“liberals” aka Globalists) view themselves and how they view their opposition. Obviously for them to have the level of conviction they have and the level of loyalty(okay it may not be that great but…) they have there must be something that bonds them together. A vision of global collectivism, free of the constraints cultural, national or racial differentiation is what I believe binds them together.

    So let’s describe what this vision may look like from the collectivist point of view. When contemplating these things it is important to really try to feel them, to believe them to even be willing to change ones convictions if this vision starts to feel true. We have to honor truth. So the collectivist looks out to the world and they see all of the various countries, cultures, economic systems devised by all the people of the world. They see all of the people of the world as part of one huge group; let’s call this “humanity”. All of us are people, despite race, gender, sexual orientation or creed. We all have the same feelings, we need food, shelter, water, companionship, etc…Individuals are like flowers or leaves on one tree. The various branches of the tree can represent the nations, cultures and racial groups of the world. All of these branches combine into one trunk from which it all springs.

    This trunk and its roots(the biosphere aka Gaia) connect to the rest of the universe. It is all really one thing. The Globalist sees this as the fundamental reality. The nations, the branches of the tree, have somehow been in conflict with each other because they have forgotten they are all part of one thing, the “tree of humanity”. The only way to bring things back to order among the conflicting branches is align the branches with the collective, with the center of gravity, with the trunk that unifies the entire tree. This is the way forward according to the globalist.

    Another analogy might be the coalescing of material to form a planet or a star. Material builds up into larger and larger bodies which, in turn, fall into even larger bodies, always following the irresistible force of gravity, always sliding in towards the center. This is the source of the power of their vision.

    Now, I don’t really disagree with this vision necessarily. I feel like it may be unstoppable barring total systemic collapse but I definitely disagree with the methodology put forward by the globalists. They are relying on violence and coercion in order to establish peace. This strategy is doomed to failure especially if “oneness” is the goal. Violence begets violence, peace begets peace. A grain of wheat doesn’t produce a potato. If they want that goal it must be done peacefully. Attempting to conceive and birth a new world through violence will only end in a teratoma and it would be better to abort such offspring before they get very far. Attempting to conceive in this way would be tantamount to rape and the new world would be a bastardized maniac offspring. In their rush for progress the globalists make the mistake of ignoring the past and failures of the past. They see the past as a nuisance and something that must be eradicating rather than seeing the past as what the future grows out of.

    Anyway, sorry for the annoying verbiage but I really wanted to use some of those words. This could be thought out more but I felt it was important to say something and to attempt to see the world from the globalist point of view. Only by embracing their view can we understand them. Only by understanding them can we combat them.

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    • Sharon says:

      Understanding Hitler was not one of Churchill’s methods, was it? Stopping him was the goal. The western mindset STILL does not understand the willingness of Japanese government to sustain deaths of 71 million + and being ready o push on–so they dropped a couples of bombs to move things along. Delaying the delivery of Fat Man and Little Boy until there was understanding would not have done a single thing to stop the war. What stopped the war was notifying the Emperor that Thin Man was in the wings and it his call.

      The faux empathy of “we need to try to understand” is precisely the posture that has empowered the left in all levels of government. They know from experience that all they have to do is tell the rinos, “Well, can’t we just talk? See if we can come together? Let’s negotiate some more.” It’s impossible to negotiate with a liar, and talking with liars is not called negotiation in their world–it’s called, “SUCKER! WE WIN!”

      Understanding the opposition is not a pre-requisite to combating them. Do you also think you should embrace Islam so you can understand their murderous ways? Go for it–I’ll stand back a bit and take photos to document the results.

      “Embracing their view….” Surely you jest. Actually, I don’t assume you’re jesting at all. Apparently this is what you really think.

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      • brocahontas says:

        The point isn’t to have empathy but to be able to counter their fundamental rhetoric and sway public opinion. Most falsehoods contain an element of truth and this is what gives them their power. If you just attack them then you are attacking that truth as well and people will come to defend that truth.

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      • howie says:

        It is amazing is it not? The pocketicians must just LOL at ho gullible the voters are. Now we will have to watch the GOP slither in to a gun control dean and package too.

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        • brocahontas says:

          You will never win if you cannot sway public opinion. In order to do that you have to be able to convince the public that you have their best interests in mind. In this case the globalists are framing the debate that “gun nuts” like polishing their gun collection(compensation for something, hint hint) more than they care about the lives of children and the gun advocates are not fighting back on that level. To win public opinion thoroughly you have to convince people that guns somehow make their children safer. Or propose alternative routes to make the country safer.

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          • howie says:

            Good Grief. Do you know that there is no ammo left on the shelves of stores and they are awaiting shipments, maybe next month??? The mediots are not reporting the frenzy. I think people see a bad moon rising. Everything on TV is a hoax. It is not what is really going on as far as I can tell. Those dopes are sequestered inside the Beltway and New Bloombergstan. They have not a clue.

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      • howie says:

        All the gun ranges are packed with people sighting in their guns. Across the country. Brass is flying everywhere. I have seen it. I am thinking they may be stepping over the line. When the government starts messing with the Bill of Right’s it is asking for trouble. Especially since they are flat broke. They are broke aren’t they? They look like a bunch of panhandlers.

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    • howie says:

      I don’t think so. It is simple. They are fanatics. Pampered fools. They think all the good things in the USA just happened….out of thin air. Nobody worked hard and built anything. “You dinenet buuilt that!.” From the POTUS himself. Buck up.

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      • brocahontas says:

        fair enough. I tend to assume the best in people but now, thinking back to some debates I’ve had they don’t actually have the ability to argue and willingly choose to ignore facts that don’t fit into their preconceived notions.

        On my earlier point. I actually think Hitler’s ideas were based on something true, they just became extremely warped but he did speak to a real yearning in the German people.

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  36. myopiafree says:

    Subject: We should REGISTER subways – because people push other people on to the tracks – and they are killed.
    +++++
    New York:
    Man pushed onto subway track killed.
    For the second time this month, a man has been shoved to his death from a subway platform in New York.
    +++++
    Yes, people kill people. You can never prevent it – except in a “padded cell”.
    That is why Feinstein wants.
    Is that what YOU WANT?

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    • Sharon says:

      I think raw hamburger should be registered. The mother of a local high school coach (in MN–near our little town) died some years ago from a horrible, untreatable meat-borne infection when she foolishly ate a bit of raw hamburger while she was fixing meatballs. She ate raw hamburger. She got ill. She died. It was horrible.

      So yes. Raw hamburger must be registered. Raw hamburger kills.

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  37. quentin says:

    This bill that the Sen. Diane Feinstein wants wil not reduce crime what so ever. Crazy people will find a way to kill no matter what. The gun doesn’t kill people, people kill people. The main objective of the politicians that want this type of gun control, want to take power away from the people, When people loss power, the government gains more until the law bidding citizen has no power. It is just like raising taxes on successful people. When people can have the power without the government help, Diane Feinstein and the rest of those socialists don’t like it. The majority of citezens that have common sense and morarity obey the law and support background checks.

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  38. Chip Bennett says:

    Diane Feinstein (Totalitarian-CA), in her own words:

    “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up every one of them – Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in – I would have done it.”

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  39. kathyca says:

    “Celebrities” on gun control – classic. Demand that they go eff themselves for sure after watching this.

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