The Journal News and Lower Hudson Valley LoHud.com Decision

Yesterday we shared an article from a Gannett Publication “The Journal News” located in New York.   Many persons were, and are, outraged this media publication sought to publish the full names, addresses and contact information of lawful registered gun permit owners – essentially handgun owners.

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The lead up article is HERE, and their article with interactive mapping is HERE.

The political ideology of the publication is abundantly evident in their articles, and to a larger sense visible within the editorial board who would advance such a decision to publish information.    They hold far-left views.

Their decision to publish the registered gun ownership visibly exemplifies one of the most vocal arguments by Second Amendment advocates who rail against registration.  Namely, f a political decision to confiscate was ever carried out only those who have lawfully abided by registration laws would be subject to confiscation.   But there’s more.

The publication will obfuscate (already inferred within their construct) their decision based on the premise the registrations are “public record”.   This is factually correct, however the issue is far more broad.

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Unlike vehicle registration, or property registration, or, well, (fill in the blank) registration, which are all public record, the Firearm registration is different.    In the matter of a Drivers License, Auto Registration, etc.  the conveyed activity or ownership registered is considered a “privilege”.     Gun ownership is a “Constitutional Right” – Big Difference.

You do not have a constitutionally protected right to drive, or own a motor vehicle, nor own a horse.    You do have a constitutionally protected *right* to own a firearm.

The capacity of an individual to invoke their right in this example, has been somewhat restricted by the mandate of registration.    In order for a person in New York to enjoy their constitutional right, the State of New York is requiring the person to register their intent.

This type of registration should NEVER be a matter of “public record”, because the person is constitutionally protected in their ability to enjoy the right.   The public record aspect is no more valid a consideration than a person being required to register themselves with the State in order to express their First Amendment right, free speech.

Remember, it has been settled that these rights are NOT given by government, therefore any invocation of, expression of, or application of, should not be restricted by the government…….

*Unless*, in the capacity of the individual, they have shown an irresponsibility with said right, such as unlawful action.   The unlawful behavior, can and does, place the State in the capacity to restrict further conveyance or expression.   Hence, the state can restrict a convicted felon from owning a firearm (engaging in the expression of a constitutional right).   The felon has already shown a propensity of incapacity toward self-governance by the engagement of unlawful/illegal activity.

The Journal News used an interactive map for a specific purpose, with a specific intent.  In essence they were not just showing how many guns were owned in a particular geography – They could have done that with mere innocuous dots alone – No, in this example TJN/LoHud.Com had an additional implied agenda:   “Social Shame”.

Based around the concept of the Scarlet Letter, TJN/LoHud.com expressed their ideological (left-wing) hatred for gun ownership, and wanted the reading public to join them in the consideration of who those horrid gun owners really are.

In the abstract this would be just mere insufferable political bias.  However, in combination with all other public opinions expressed by the editorial board you can see clearly a strategic intention to Isolate-Ridicule-Marginalize.   You can see their agenda.

The progressive left never thinks past their emotional attachment to the moment (mob mentality), and rarely do their advocates carry the thought process forward to its ultimate conclusion.

Why stop at gun owners, why not require medical record registration, so you can display names and locations of AIDS/HIV or tuberculosis, or Bird-Flu patients?   You can always use the auspices of patient care tracking.   Sounds crazy right.   But, then again, that would require some kind of government run healthcare system with accompanying compliance registration system, and data reported medical conditions that would permit identification….. aaaaand just a large enough mob of people who become worried about the impact upon their community to join with politicians.

Then the progressive  “Facebook / Google / ipod-Apple Community” can help you with just the right information you need.   Why, they’ll probably be “an ap for that“.

No, wait, wha?….

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Here is the background on the staff involved.

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73 Responses to The Journal News and Lower Hudson Valley LoHud.com Decision

  1. myopiafree says:

    Hi Friends – This is EXACTLY RIGHT. The “Liberal” press – judges it is OK to OUT – a group of people it does no like. But this should be a warning for his “Liberal world”. They want the GOVERNMENT to “protect them” – by registering all guns. But then, like Germany, some “dictator” comes to power. Now he has a convenient way to order his POLICE, to go out and CONFISCATE ALL FIREARMS. So the police do it. That will end, not only the 2nd in the Bill of Rights – but the ENTIRE Bill of Rights. That is why these “Liberals” are living in a “dream world” about this issue.

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    • howie says:

      How did the Nazi’s do it? The prog goal appears to be to get rid of the constitution. It is a major problem for them.

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      • myopiafree says:

        THe NAZI did not have to do it – all the hard work was down by the LIBERAL GOVERNMENT in the previous 10 years. Once Hitler was “voted in by 30 percent of the people”, he just asked for AND GOT “EMERGENCY POWERS”. He ordered his “Police” to round up all registered weapons. There was NOTHING ANYONE COULD DO ABOUT IT – SINCE HE HAD ALL THE LISTS. If you think that when the Government says, “Register”, WE WILL PROTECT YOUR IDENTITY – this publication simply proves how dangerous registration is to you.

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        • Sharon says:

          We must not make the mistake of thinking that the left will somehow at some point make “a major and obvious PR mistake” as a result of which the entire sea change will go against them. The Nazis didn’t. They never “got caught” by their public audience.

          There was in the 1940’s, a large portion of the world that was free and honored personal liberties, including the US and Britain…and when push came to shove and the scab was ripped off Germany and the pus came pouring out, there were millions of soldiers and airmen and seamen from free nations, with free leaders, who were ready to march against the evil pouring out of Germany and against Hitler and his thugs. Those free forces (including Free France and those who didn’t necessarily march to DeGaulle’s tune) –those free forces were “out there” to rescue Germany from the pits of hell when her own conscience and strength had failed her from within.

          We might not be so fortunate: there are no gathered-together, stable and strong free nations standing in array ready to come to our rescue if our own conscience and strengths fails us from within.

          God help us. Please, Sovereign God, help us.

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  2. ar10308 says:

    Filthy effing Progs. May they rot in hell.

    Fortunately, it looks like someone returned the favor.
    http://www.christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sauce-for-the-goose/
    Do with this information what you will.

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  3. myopiafree says:

    The effort to “register” firearms, is the same a registering people. It serves little purpose. Since thieves will always steal firearms, the felons will always get them. Registration is the first step towards confiscation.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Gun control advocates brought us the 9-11 attacks of 2001 as well as many other mass murders and carnage. A bunch of religious fanatics with box cutters could only hijack those airplanes because none of the passengers nor pilots were armed. How stupid are people that such lessons must be learned over and over again? Just a little common sense would have prevented such a painful lesson as unnecessary to be learned in the first place. Only complete dumbasses who are literally too stupid to live would fail to “get it” about the absolute idiocy and CRIMINAL STUPIDITY of gun control.

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    • jordan2222 says:

      I could argue that getting a social security constitutes federal registration. It might even be equal to the Scriptural “mark of beast.” I have seen mathematical presentations to “prove” 666 to be something other than those 3 literal numbers.

      However, most of us did not “choose” to get that number. We were much too young to enter into such a lifelong “contract.”

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  4. waltherppk says:

    There is a fifth column of subversives which operates actively and in the open within the United States and whose dedicated mission is the destruction of the republic and the freedoms which that republic was founded to collectively protect. Such subversives are found in every walk of life including very much the news media and government.

    They are domestic enemies within the meaning and context of the oath to support and defend the constitution and such domestic enemies should be dealt with accordingly as the circumstances allow. In a factual and practical sense such domestic enemies are more of a threat to the republic than are any foreign enemy that has ever been faced in open warfare because domestic enemies are inside the perimeter and operate in the manner of spies and saboteurs who are unrecognized for being the enemies which they assuredly are.

    There will be “philosophical arguments” made that such persons are entitled to their own freedom to pursue their own agenda and to have their own view. But it is a deceptive argument for those subversives who would wrap themselves in the same flag as a license and protection to operate as domestic enemies of the same principles and flag for which many good men have died to preserve, with the only distinction being that such domestic enemies are located within the republic and deceitfully pretend that their mission is only to achieve what ends their philosophy deems to be “civilized”.

    Those subversives are like drunkards driving the wrong direction down the constitutional interstate highway who are oblivious to the carnage which their treasonous course produces and the security threat for such conduct cannot be tolerated. Gun control is a “tripwire” which has already been engaged by the simple existence of firearms registration records regardless of the rationale applied to justify such registration as ever having been done to assure that only “qualified” purchasers of firearms are able to purchase firearms. Once gone down the slippery slope of exactly who is “qualified” to purchase a firearm it can easily be recognized that the ownership of a firearm has already been redefined not as being a right at all, and the unconstitutionality of that ownership registration is unequivocally itself an infringement upon the right.

    No person ever needs to be “qualified” or “registered” to have and to exercise what is an actual right because no actual right is issued by any government but is a birthright. Certainly there can be regulations which are imposed as security measures which are sensible for creating “restricted areas”, however to broaden greatly the scope of such regulations to include all society as made subject to firearms ownership registration and making restrictions on purchases to only “qualified” individuals is a process which is now seen to be subversive since those who would administer such registration are untrustworthy and themselves create a security risk by publishing of such ownership registration information as would tell thieves who are the gun owners that may be targeted for thefts of their firearms.

    It is not owners of firearms who should be in the crosshairs or have on themselves a bullseye to be targeted by criminals. It is rather those subversives who are proponents of gun control including firearms registration who are now recognizable as enablers of homicide and even historically who are enablers of genocide who should be recognized for the criminals they are. That fifth column of subversives needs to be shut down and decommissioned entirely, their records destroyed and their agents unemployed.

    Such persons need to be put out of business. They are now proven to be untrustworthy and they are enemies of the very “civilized” society which they deceptively proclaim they are the advocates. They are subversives and need to be held accountable for their treasonous Un-American activities in the same way as McCarthy would have dealt with such persons who are domestic enemies.

    Whatever it takes to “put ‘em out of business” is exactly what ought to be done, because such domestic enemies are a greater threat to the republic than any foreign enemy ever has been. History has its lessons about this and those lessons must not be ignored, if the republic is to survive. Gun registration and gun control schemes are preludes to homicides wherein the state itself becomes the accomplice murderer or principal bad actor. Hundreds of millions of murdered dead cry out from their graves that this is undeniable truth.

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    • myopiafree says:

      Isolate and destroy. This reminds me of a minister in Germany (Bonehoffer) – during WWII. He said, FIRST they went after the Communists – but I did not worry, because I was not a communist. Then the went after the Jews, so I did not worry. Then they came after me. So don’t think that this “registration” will end at that point. People who wish to turn just “one” right – so they can be “safe”, will eventually lose all of it. It would be better to just “wipe out the 2nd” and be honest about it.

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      • Sharon says:

        I’m not sure who is the originator of that quote, but I don’t think it was Bonhoeffer…? Bonhoeffer was front and center fighting on behalf of the Jews, confronting both the German Lutheran Church (and in fact, the Confessing church at a later point) and challenging them on their lack of courage in the day of the battle, and chastising them for their failure to protect the Jews.

        Eric Metaxas’ biographical work, Bonhoeffer, details much of the broader historical context in which Bonhoeffer waged the battle, and fought Hitler’s plans even before most of Germany (or the world) had any idea what he was up to. Bonhoeffer’s father was an eminent psychiatrist in Germany around the turn of the century, and had Hitler’s number very early on.

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      • Sharon says:

        Just did a little check—Wikipedia notes attribute the comment to Niemoller

        “First they came…” is a famous statement attributed to pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. There is some disagreement over the exact wording of the quotation and when it was created; the content of the quotation may have been presented differently by Niemöller on different occasions.

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      • howie says:

        Just ask Zimmerman. It is gonna be a long 4 years.

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    • John Galt says:

      Brits will be wishing they had guns about the time Shariah law is instituted.

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      • Norman Bates says:

        Many already do. There was a huge stink raised when they lost their right to own a gun. And predictably, gun crimes shot way up after they did this. Funny how that works…

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    • myopiafree says:

      The first thing the Germans did – when they took over a country – was to go to each town and demand the list of all registered gun owners.

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    • jordan2222 says:

      Thank you. The videos are excellent and most appropriate. Unfortunately, no one who supports gun control would ever even bother to watch them.

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  5. LouDaJew says:

    my biggest problem with their article is theft. so, now some thug breaks into my house and has a better weapon that I’ll probably never have the opportunity to obtain again because of some possible law changes. with the weapon they steal from me, they commit a violent act, and then more gun restrictions are placed into law. I think this cycle needs to be explained to the people who wrote this article.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Some disputes are truly beyond talk as a means of addressing and resolving the problem. The gun control issue is one of those type problems. The very existence of a need to “explain” certain things to some people has already established that they are too weak minded to comprehend any explanation. If such persons had any damn sense in the first place there would be nothing needing to be explained. So the perceived premise for an explanation related “solution” is a non sequitur. There is only one cure for what wrong thinking ails some people, and that involves their incarceration and/or interment. You can’t fix stupid.

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      • rumpole2 says:

        “The very existence of a need to “explain” certain things to some people has already established that they are too weak minded to comprehend any explanation”
        Quite right Walther… in regards many issues as well as this one.

        “You can’t fix stupid.”

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      • Sharon says:

        They are part of that large group of those who are willingly deceived….so those who are looking for an audience of such folks make extensive use of them for their own purposes.

        They don’t hold the positions they do because they have strong convictions; they hold them because they have been co-opted by those who have strong, freedom-destroying convictions.

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      • howie says:

        I remember hearing about it in the 1960′ and 50’s. That is how long the prog’s have been at it. They will never stop. They are simply fanatic’s.

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    • kadar2012 says:

      The other day you wanted all firearm sales to go through a FFL. (registration). Now do you see why any form of registration is a bad idea?

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      • LouDaJew says:

        well, I’m not so sure. if they do take our (any) guns I will definitely eat my words. I can’t see that happening, but it seems like the MSM is gaining a lot of traction. I wouldn’t want thugs buying firearms is what I’m trying to say.

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        • LouDaJew says:

          in other words, I don’t see anything wrong with our current gun laws.

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        • waltherppk says:

          Thugs don’t have now and never have had any problem buying firearms nor any problem stealing firearms anyway. In burglaries and other crimes there are stolen registered firearms which cuts through all the red tape on transfer of ownership for those stolen firearms which usually “disappear” but are still very much in existence. The only impediment of any actual significance or practical bearing upon firearms ownership is that hindrance and security risk which is presented to those “non-thugs” (law abiding citizens) who actually care what is the law and try to obey the law even when the law is stupid and accomplishes zero except to put registered owners on a “list” that should not even exist.. Criminals do not care what is the law about registration or sale or carry because they are criminals and they simply take their chances. If they use a weapon in a crime it often becomes a throwaway, and is untraceable back to them or the many hands and many crimes in which that same weapon was used……none of which are the fault of the original legal owner who is the only owner of record. So what is accomplished by such registration in a practical way ? Absolutely nothing is accomplished that is any substantial impediment to actual criminals, while registration disadvantages law abiding persons by interfering with and infringing a basic right. Gun registration is another flavor of nanny state kool-aid. It tastes sweet and goes down smooth even though it is full of cyanide, but everybody drink up and smile because the
          nanny state “homeland security” gestapo says it is good for you. You can trust the defenders of the fatherland, motherland, homeland, ect., ect. ….riiiiight ???? No you
          actually can’t ….which is precisely why we have a second amendment. And the bill of rights is like the ten commandments…..it’s a package deal. You don’t get to pick and choose which of the ten you like. It’s all or none. It either means what it says or it
          means nothing at all.

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    • Norman Bates says:

      Actually, this list is a great tool for criminals. It allows them to see in which homes they are likely to run into an armed occupant and which ones are less likely to have armed occupants. Talk about unintended consequences…

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  6. allhail2 says:

    Over at huffpo under the Piers Morgan article, there are some really interesting comments regarding gun control, confiscation etc. One highly enlightened fellow stated that the NRA membership is only 1.5% of the country which is not enough for anyone to pay attention to. He went on to state that the remaining portion of the population are the strong. Then he did explicitly state that gun owners were going to soon find that out. The response is an easy one. “Fine. But in the interest of fairness, allow me to suggest you put your bravest out front, being that you all are the strong ones and all.”

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  7. hansen says:

    They are also publishing a list of homes that may be protected. So thugs may skip that house and go for the unprotected neighbor.

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  8. cajunkelly says:

    O…M….G…it gets worse, folks.

    There is NO way I would *ever* live in New York;

    http://www.paladium.net/usa-farnewyorkstate0000PistolPermit2010Jun_01.php

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    • Paige Cohen says:

      My Mother is on that list too, but not her home address. I cannot believe The Journal News listed the locals and names. Why????? (I Know).

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    • howie says:

      I am amazed the people of New York like this stuff. But they do. They even voted Bloomberg in. No Large Soda for You!

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    • Norman Bates says:

      When i lived in NYC I found out the state made it virtually impossible for civilians to buy a gun in the state. BUT… if you just cross over into New Jersey you could easily buy a gun and bring it back then register it.

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  9. A few years back during the California prop 8 vote they did the very same thing…. This is the very same pattern of creating a direct threat or risk of harm to anyone who dares to stand in their way.

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    • Norman Bates says:

      How does this hurt the gun owners? If anything it hurts the very people they hold in high regard. Non-gun owners. How? Criminals try their best to AVOID people who are armed. This map they created is a great tool for them. It shows them which homes to avoid and which homes they can rob with relatively low risk of getting shot. I’m pretty sure criminals in those areas are thanking this paper vigorously as they plan their next burglaries.

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  10. LouDaJew says:

    the people who own firearms list or whatever they call it should be considered “Secret” information, just like in the military. releasing the list to the public should be a crime.

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    • waltherppk says:

      For hundreds of millions of murdered good reasons there should never even exist any “list” of gun owners. That is simply the bottom line. Slicing it any other way is a lie and it is a dangerous lie that is the same dangerous lie that is responsible for those same hundreds of millions of murdered good reasons that such a list should never exist.
      Only criminal enablers or seriously misguided people would advocate ANY registration of ownership of firearms.

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      • howie says:

        David Gregory is a survivor of holding an ammo clip. Liberals everywhere are amazed it did not kill him.

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      • Norman Bates says:

        Teh only real reason to require gun registration is to allow the government to know who to coem after when they decide to try and disarm the population by force. People seem to have forgotten the whole reason why the 2nd Amendment exists. It’s not for hunting or sport shooting. It’s to allow the population to be have arms with which they can defend themselves from a corrupt and/or oppressive government. It’s amazing to me how historically ignorant so many Americans are.

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  11. Andrew B says:

    Apparently these are the addresses of the “journalists”: Journal News President: Janet Hasson, 3 Gate House Lane Mamaroneck, NY 10534 (914) 694.5204 Editors: Cyndee Royle, 1133 Westchester Ave., Suite N110, White Plains, NY 10604, 914-694-9300 Nancy Cutler 9 Woodwind Ln, Spring Valley, NY. (845) 354 3485 Parent company of The Journal News Gannett CEO Gracia C Martore 728 Springvale Rd Great Falls, VA 22066 (703) 759 5954 The reporter on the story is Dwight R Worley 23006 139 Ave Springfield Gardens, NY 11413 (718) 527 0832

    “Journal News reporter Dwight R. Worley owns a Smith & Wesson 686 .357 Magnum and has had a residence permit in New York City for that weapon since February 2011.”

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  12. Andrew B says:

    They violated the law by publishing those names:

    Section 1. Subdivision 5 of section 400.00 of the penal law

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    1 (II) A REQUEST FOR THE ENTIRE LIST OF LICENSEES, OR FOR ALL LICENSEES IN A GEOGRAPHIC AREA, SHALL BE DENIED, EXCEPT TO ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR ANY ENTITY ACTING ON BEHALF OF OR PROVIDING SERVICES TO ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SUBDIVISION, THE TERM “LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY” SHALL MEAN THE DIVISION OF STATE POLICE, ANY NEW YORK STATE COUNTY SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT OF ANY CITY, VILLAGE OR TOWN WITHIN NEW YORK STATE, THE POLICE FORCE OF ANY NEW YORK STATE AUTHORITY OR AGENCY, THE STATE POLICE FORCE OF ANY OTHER STATE, ANY FEDERAL LAW”

    http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?sh=printbill&bn=A09388&term

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  13. lovemygirl says:

    People are fighting back. Boycott the Journal News Facebook page

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-The-Journal-News/127822354045721

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    • Paige Cohen says:

      Thank You. I’ll spread it.

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    • Sharon says:

      Well, I guess I live in that other America, but—seriously? “boycotting a facebook page” is going to bring some kind of meaningful pressure to bear?

      If is really has come to that, we are so finished. Unless there are still a few million who wouldn’t be caught dead “liking” (or visiting) a media FB page. I’m one. Anybody else? ….. or is this what people do now instead of watching soap operas or something.

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      • lovemygirl says:

        It’s a start and I let my wife do the “facebooking”. The good news is they POd a lot of influential people and they are starting to react.

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        • Sharon says:

          Well, there’s that ;) A whole bunch more people had better started getting PO’d….. and like has been mentioned on other threads, I hope there are some among the FBers who will press home the point that THIS IS NOT ABOUT GUNS………it’s about dissolving the Bill of Rights.

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          • Paige Cohen says:

            Facebook is silly and corrupt and is big brother. However it is a fantastic way to share information and fast. I run a fb page. I will not advertise here and I reach nearly 4 million people. I can post information in the morning and by mid-day it is everywhere from Gateway Pundit to the Daily Caller and ultimately on Drudge. I don’t use facebook to socialize at all. There are some very kind people I’ve met on fb but I socialize the old fashion way thru email, phone calls and personal contact. Thru facebook I keep in touch with animal activitist causes and political news. Some people run some top notch pages that rival any good conservative blog. With fb pages you can narrow your interests and focus on them. There are great Second Amendment pages and Conservative pages. I also use my fb page to take a reading of the given mood of Americans. The comments people leave are so intelligent and insightful. Sure liberals run crazy on fb, but that why you are able to delete and ban. Facebook and its use as a tool for spreading information in a hurry should not be underestimated.

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      • canadacan says:

        Thank you Sharon for saying that Facebook is inane. I’ve never bothered with it and soap operas is a good analogy

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        • canadacan says:

          However we are in a life and death fight to protect Constitution so we have to use whatever means of social media is avail.able. there are times however when I feel people should buy liniment to. Make. Themselves. Smart

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  14. howie says:

    It is a sad sad day when people do not trust the intentions of the Federal Government. This is awful. But how could you trust them? Lookit what they are doing.

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    • canadacan says:

      Again the states is where we’re going to have to make our stand

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      • howie says:

        Looks like it. Sad but true. The Gop’s have a pat hand on the so called fiscal cliff and won’t play it. They should offer a real tax cut for all under 250k and leave the rich alone. But Noooooo. The Crats can not take a 10% real cut. It would skewer their baseline increases. The Defense can weather 10% over 10 years easy.

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    • jordan2222 says:

      Here is the “explanation.”

      Please show me one valid reason to publish the list. What benefit does any law abiding citizen derive?

      “We knew publication of the database would be controversial but we felt sharing as much information as we could about gun ownership in our area was important in the aftermath of the Newtown shootings,” said CynDee Royle, Editor and Vice President/News.

      “People are concerned about who owns guns and how many of them there are in their neighborhoods. Our Freedom of Information request also sought specifics on how many and what types of weapons people owned. That portion of the request was denied.”

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      • Sharon says:

        Shoot–they don’t need no valid reasons, jordan! They published it because they wanted to do. That’s their valid reason. They didn’t intend to bring benefit to any law abiding citizen.

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  15. Karl Blevins says:

    I am just wondering if this paper put any thought what-soever into this. Think not their staff information is everywhere on Facebook. The reporters phone’s are all off the hook busy. haa ha haaa.

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  16. Paige Cohen says:

    Get this!

    But the newspaper says it wanted to publish even more information.

    “We were surprised when we weren’t able to obtain information on what kinds and how many weapons people in our market own,” Michael Meaney, morning local editor, said in a statement.

    County clerks’ offices had told the paper that “the public does not have the right to see specific permits an individual has been issued, the types of handguns a person possesses or the number of guns he or she owns,” Meaney wrote. “Had we been able to obtain those records, we would have published them.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-gun-permit-map/index.html

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  17. Paige Cohen says:

    NY Senator Ball has now announced that he will introduce legislation in the New York State Senate, to prevent this from happening again.

    “The asinine editors at the Journal News, have once again gone out of their way to place a virtual scarlet letter on law abiding firearm owners throughout the region. The immediate elimination of the information posted on the Journal News Website is the only way we can ensure the safety and liberty of these New Yorkers. This is clearly a violation of privacy, and needs to be corrected immediately. The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law-abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. Am I surprised? No. Should every person with commonsense be offended? Yes. Furthermore, the Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs,” said Ball. “Publishing this information on a website provides criminals with a map of where they can steal firearms from lawful owners for later use in the commission of crimes. Preventing the theft of guns and their criminal misuse is an important public-policy goal. This map is bad for the good guys and good for the bad guys.”

    http://yonkerstribune.typepad.com/yonkers_tribune/2012/12/senator-ball-issues-statement-on-journal-news-gun-permit-map-and-introduces-legislation-to-prevent-future-acts-of-idiocy.html

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  18. jordan2222 says:

    Although not nearly so eloquently, I have made this same argument for years, especially this issue of a driver’s license being a privilege and not a right. In Florida, the punishment phase begins immediately if a person is charged with DUI, long before you have a day in court……..Loss of license, mandatory “schools,” etc…….. In a large sense you give up certain Constitutional rights as soon as you are “suspected” of being under the influence.

    Publishing a list of gun owners only makes it easier for the bad guys to steal more guns. They can target their break-ins specifically for that purpose.

    Of course, in Florida, gun registration is not required and any paperwork associated with a background check is supposed to be destroyed within 48 hours. I am not completely up to date on that process but someone recently told me that the paperwork might not be destroyed unless you specifically request it.

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  19. waltherppk says:

    Some people could reasonably advocate that such treasonous, homicide accomplicing and facilitatiing “doxing” ought to be responded to by preparing some deep holes out in the desert and then escorting the “doxers” out to that location to show them where is the particular hole of interest to themselves, which could have been avoided if they had enough sense in the first place to know the difference between their ass and a hole in the ground, with which they made an appointment to go see by their recklessly stupid actions. Many people would likely find it difficult to respond to such subversives who present a clear and present danger in any gentle and civilized manner, but would be more inclined to get downright medieval and uncivilized in expressing their dissatisfaction with subversive criminals and dealing directly with such problems. Maybe the best solutions for some problems is to make them disappear. In an imperfect world there are probably more than one or two unmarked graves which have come about as a result of somebody doing a service to humanity. Gun registration and gun control has historically been the time proven prelude to epidemic dimension mayhem and genocide and its proponents are historically proven CRIMINALS and TYRANTS. What is it exactly that is unclear about that REALITY to any rational persons? Strip away all the propaganda and this is about nothing else but a choice between good and evil……..a choice between common sense and stupidity.

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