WARNING – If you are prone to big picture avoidance, or if intellectual honesty makes you uncomfortable, this is not the thread for you.
However, if you are open-minded, well versed in the consequential multi-dimensional politics of our time, and aware that little – if anything – ever happens in the abstract, then perhaps you might enjoy digging further.
There is a big picture here; a big uncomfortable picture, and in fairness to everyone it needs to be discussed in the brightest sunlight.
To begin I will acknowledge that some TreeHouse members are/were slightly or perhaps even more than moderately annoyed at the level of focus placed upon the Trayvon Martin case by our refuge. Indeed, it is has been a quite extensive and time-consuming endeavor, not by mere happenstance or by dismissive intention, but more by necessity.
This legal/political case in the larger context is more about a creeping Marxist ideology than anything else. Some will scoff at such a descriptive, but despite the awkwardness of intellectual absorption that statement is true.
Think about the various factions of ideology aligned to argue on the anti-Zimmerman side of the narrative. Note that I say anti-Zimmerman and not pro-Trayvon because, quite simply, there is no pro-Trayvon contingent. Trayvon Martin was, and is, merely a tool, an essential element, an excuse and a means to a much more significant end.
Those anti-Zimmerman forces are: President Obama, the professional race-baiters and professionally -albeit perpetually- aggrieved, the radical leftists, the radical racists in the New Black Panther movement, globalists in all forms, the Congressional Black Caucus, the young and naive tools known as ‘Occupiers’ – or ’99 percenters’, the gun control contingents, the collectivists, and the various elements that one might label broadly as the socialists; and last, but by no means least, the legions of moldable minds within the indoctrination machines of progressive education – The Kids.
In short a rather noisy, albeit less productive and industrious, bunch of minority factions who are all led to believe that Justice for Trayvon has something to do with their ideological endeavors.
Should freedom win, and should George Zimmerman defeat the alignment of forces who compromise the factional, and multi-flagged army of his opposition, a tremendous blow will have been dealt to the Marxist anti-capitalist infection they represent.
Now listen to this video carefully:
That, my friends and Treepers is why we are willing to fight back.
This single defeat can ring far louder than a thousand failed Wisconsin repeal elections combined. This fight can, and will, be won with principle over pride, honesty over manipulation, truth over distraction, and self-reliant faith over self-interest.
This is not a fight the Treehouse chose. This is a fight that chose the Treehouse.
- Sharon
A few days ago the site admins and I discussed the question of why Benjamin Crump chose this Trayvon Martin case. I shared with them my view that he was just arrogant, stupid, and because of his history with winning easy battles he did not vet his victim. Nor did he do any research into the strength or integrity of his opposition.
Parks and Crump won the Martin Lee Anderson race-based wrongful death case because the accused was not a self-described Democrat party affiliated, Hispanic, God-fearing Catholic. The accused were the corrupt political class within the construct of a city, county and state system filled with self-interested and short-sighted politically appointed officials that ran the juvenile boot camp and wanted no part of defending themselves against the organized professional race-baiting industry.
Al Sharpton, Martin Lee Anderson’s Mother – Gina Jones, and Jesse Jackson march 2006
It was racial Marxism V. political Marxism, where avoidance and cutting your losses was the better option for the accused parties.
Martin Lee Anderson afforded Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks new houses, new cars, bigger offices, more staff, more clout, and exponentially inflated invulnerable ego’s; with which they purchased fancy vacations and political power via campaign donations. They bought their way into the upper echelon of professional race-baiting, and private political clubs. If you doubt these expenditures, look them up.
But soon, even with millions awarded, the money began to diminish.
They needed a new Martin Lee Anderson. And in their rush to find him they projected the same expectation onto Trayvon Martin; only this time, they were not as lucky. This time they did not vet either their victim nor their accused.
They were as ego-driven Generals who were looking for a battle after having defeated exceptionally weak armies. They felt powerful and invincible. Their ego driven expectations were clearly showcased in their initial engagements. However, they boldly and proudly marched right into the valley of the opposition where truth held the higher ground and they were quickly in disarray.
Every action they have taken from their initial charge has been an attempt to reorganize the topography in their favor, recreate the narrative, and redefine the enemy they initially gave no interest in researching.
So they had to create a false guise in their victim Trayvon Martin. Partly, that is why TrayMom, and TrayDad, seem so disconnected from the person Ryan Julison drew up in the tent. Julison did not create a media strategy, he presented a battle plan to combat the truth.
Neither Sybrina nor Tracy know this Trayvon character that Mr. Julison created, packaged and sold. Nor do they know the Trayvon that Natalie Jackson and Benjamin Crump are exploiting to the media. Therefore they needed to consistently retain Crump, Jackson, Parks, or another more seasoned official like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson beside them.
Additionally, because of the rush into the false judgements, the scheme team needed to redefine the accused. They had no idea the subject of their attack was a Democrat, a Black-Hispanic, a Catholic, or a mentor of young black students who had personally engaged himself in the noble effort to bring justice to a former black homeless victim of brutality.
- Zimmerman Family
They picked the wrong guy, and by the time they realized they had forgotten to evaluate the battlefield, they, along with their previously purchased political friends and well bought race-baiting cohorts, had marched blindly into the valley of short-sighted expectations.
So they had to redefine their adversary if they were going to shine up the dreams for the golden goose.
George Zimmerman’s black and hispanic roots were replaced with him being White. George Zimmerman’s mentoring of black youth, and defending of black victims was replaced with him being racist. George Zimmerman’s natural tendency toward altruism was replaced with him being a bigoted vigilante. George Zimmerman’s naiveté and trusting disposition toward human nature was used as a weapon against him.
Isolate – Ridicule – Marginalize – Attack. The strategic approach of re-definition.
The absolute Classic Marxist approach when redefining the narrative to ensure that a good opportunity does not go to waste. Failure cannot be considered an option because far too much credibility has been placed on the line, including the Office of The President.
Michael Barger commented upon this eloquently yesterday and his keen perspective deserves the full merit of your review. He said:
One striking thing is the venom poured out on Gallegos by the Hispanic commenters at LatinoLA accusing him of being a self-hating Hispanic. This is typically liberal. If you are black and don’t agree with the liberal orthodoxy you are an Oreo, born of a woman in disagreement, a “woman without a uterus”.
Hispanic leftists must support the Democratic position and will do so if that requires betraying innocent Hispanic victims like George Zimmerman, and Jaime Zapata and hundreds of Hispanics who are Mexican citizens.
The NY Times has de-Hispanicized George by calling him a white Hispanic, and thus turning him into a white racist since it would be highly problematic for Latino liberals for him to be a Hispanic anti-black racist.
There is another dimension to George’s personality that is highly relevant and completely ignored even by his conservative supporters which is that George is a devout Catholic, moreover one who has been formed profoundly by the Hispanic Catholicism of his mother and grandmother.
This was not evident to me until I read Chris Francescani’s excellent profile on him in Reuters. That specifically Hispanic Catholic formation is what made George the kind of person who was willing to risk his life when his neighbors ask him to protect them. And his life is still at risk. For protecting his neighbors he may yet be murdered by the black Baptist lynch mob. In fact, I think that it is inevitable.
The treepers here are absolutely correct. George is innocent and all that is going on is figuring out how to acquit him without causing race riots. This inevitably will require that George is found guilty of something, anything to make sure Obama and Holder can have their racist cake and eat it too.
But why should George have to pay to stop a race war Obama cooked up to insure maximal black turn out for the election. I hope he refuses anything short of acquittal.
The other problem is that no one is championing George with the exception of treepers and all of two heroic tweeters who duke it out everyday in the twitter trenches against the lynch mob hordes.
White conservatives are spending their time attacking Eric Holder for Fast and Furious and Brett Kimberlin and doing nothing for George. Bloggers aren’t blogging and the Bigs and Daily Caller are not writing about this.
There are no Hispanic conservative heavies writing about George and no Catholic heavies either.
No one is making the connection of George as a Hispanic Catholic victim of the African-American Ascendancy with Jaime Zapata and the hundreds of Hispanic Catholic victims of Fast and Furious nor with Obama’s attacks on Catholics in the matter of HHS.
It bothers me a great deal that conservatives always mention the death of Brian Terry and rarely the death of Jaime Zapata and it is because they are Anglos and identify more closely with Brian Terry. This is not racism, just insensitivity and stupidity. Jaime Zapata’s death is of greater significance precisely because he is a Hispanic Catholic. He should be front and center.
Obama has taken a great risk by subjugating Hispanics to his African-American race-baiting agenda and has correctly so far judged that he can get away with using Hispanics and they will not object.
It is too bad George’s name is not Jorge Mesa (his mother’s name). All of this would have been much clearer.
Bloggers and GOP spokesmen need to fight back and make the connections clear. Particularly Hispanic, black, and Catholic bloggers. Mitt and Marco need to speak up. The conservative media need to make the Catholic and Hispanic connections clear and start reporting as assiduously on the case as treepers have been. There need to be more than two tweeps fighting in the trenches on Twitter.
Obama is playing with fire using Hispanics as servants to his black racist agenda because within two election cycles they will be the largest ethnic minority in the country. Moreover, there are is a great deal of mutual racial antagonism between blacks and Hispanics. Much gang violence takes place between black and Hispanic gangs. There is much tension in schools between black and Hispanic students.
Conservatives need to start pointing all this out. Moreover, the need to press on Obama to call off the lynch mob. He and Sybrina Fulton can end it. But Obama doesn’t want to end it because he has to ensure maximal black turnout for the election. He has made sure that “injustice” will be the inevitable outcome of proceedings against George because he instructed Eric Holder to have the FBI investigate George for having committed the capital office of committing a race crime. Anything less will be a miscarriage of justice so race riots are inevitable, which is exactly what Obama wants so blacks vote in November.
It is important to remember that this is all taking place in the swing-state of Florida where the Republican convention is being held in Tampa at the end of August, 130 miles away from George’s home.
On economic and competent management issues Mitt deserves to win, and I hope he does. He has won women and Catholics and moderates. He and the GOP underestimate what millennial turnout is going to be. I am not at all confident pollsters are accurately tracking them because all of them are on cellphones. They are making faulty assumptions that millennial behavior tracks what millennials did in 2008 and there have rapid sociological changes in the last four years I don’t think they are taking into account.
With Hispanics they appear to me to be clueless. They have a vague awareness that demographic changes are going to be important “down the road” and no idea how they are going to make inroads among Hispanics all of whose cultural institutions are in the hands of liberals.
There is not one word of Spanish on Mitt Romney’s site. He occasionally makes his Hispanic videos but all of his videos need to be subtitled in Spanish and made available for activists to spread all over the internet, and he’s not doing it.
His Hispanic team consists largely of traditional Chamber of Commerce and GOP establishment types. He has made no outreach to conservative Hispanic bloggers and new media journalists, he hasn’t even dared to face up to the number one Hispanic political commentator, Jorge Ramos on Univision, despite the fact that Jorge just denounced Obama for unauthorized use of his image in an Obama advertisement.
Obama is exploiting Hispanics to ensure maximal black turnout. He is attempting to ensure maximal Hispanic turnout by his effective amnesty for DREAMers. However, granting them work permits damages the economic interests of both blacks and Hispanic citizens. Blacks now have to compete with 800K more Hispanics for jobs.
As Victor Davis Hansen has just pointed out, immigration enforcement and Obama’s deportations had the effect of raising rages for Hispanics as the Hispanic labor pool shrank. With an additional 800K bodies wages will go down.
My advise to William Gellagos is to stop the front attack on the likes of LatinoLA and start a bi-lingual blog and a twitter campaign among Hispanic conservatives and start hammering away at the connection of George Zimmerman as another Hispanic Catholic victim of Obama along with Jaime Zapata and the hundreds of Hispanics killed in Fast and Furious.
There is one issue besides immigration and the economy that Hispanics care about more than anything else: education. 85% of Hispanics are Catholics and would prefer their kids to be educated in Catholic schools. A rising number of them are Evangelicals, and they too would prefer for their kids to be educated in private religious schools if they could afford it.
Currently they are entrapped in a unionized monopoly public school system in which black-Hispanic racial conflict is endemic. Vouchers and charter schools are a winning issue for Hispanic Catholic voters. Mitt and the GOP need to hammer away at this, but unfortunately on this as on other issues they are clueless.
The fundamental reality is that we live in a multi-racial society. Obama is half black and half white. George is part White, part Black and part Hispanic.
The Democratic race baiters cannot abide this reality which spells their doom. They have to preserve the myth that there are separate and distinct races in order to maintain their racial identity politics. To win they have to pander and play one racial group off against another. And, what very few people realize, religious groups against one another.
They have been compelled to turn George from a profoundly Catholic Hispanic into a white person completely bleached of religious identity. The race baiters are Black Baptists.
This allows then to piously proclaim that they are not anti-Hispanic Catholic racists but only anti-white racists because they believe firmly that only whites can be racists, that whites enjoy “white privilege,” and that the justice system is thoroughly an anti-black white racist system.
You write that George is not being charged with a racist hate crime. Technically you are correct. Overall you are wrong.
President Obama made sure to have Eric Holder have no fewer than 10 FBI agents investigate George and threaten him with a racist hate crime the penalty for which is death in Florida.
In one sense you are completely correct; George was not suspicious of Trayvon because he was black, but because the people in the community asked him to protect him from burglars and thieves. Most of them happened to have been black.
But race is the explosive sociological sub-text and you are naive to ignore it. Obama and the race-baiters understand this thoroughly and are exploiting it to the maximum for two goals: the first is to ensure maximal black turnout for the election and the second is to destroy the 2nd Amendment and bad private ownership of guns.
My response to the video:
COME AT ME BRO.
I apologize to all for my attempt to jump my entry to the top of the thread, but as you will see, there is a reason for it, and that is to confirm much of what Sundancecracker and Michael Barger have reported here.
I live in a state where a high percentage of the population are of Mexican ancestry, considered by the federal government to be “Hispanic” as they use a term that is actually a fallacy, since there is no nation called Hispanolo any longer. It is a generic term, designed to pigeon hole all those who speak some derivitive of the Spanish language into one group, for the purpose of creating a larger voting bloc. But Cubans do not call themselves “Hispanic”, nor do Spanish immigrants, no more so that do those who come to this nation from Puerto Rico. They are, in fact, Cuban, Spanish and Puerto Rican. But all of them, in political terms, pose a great threat to those who have spent their lives lining their pockets off the backs of unsuspecting, and undereducated Blacks. People like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have a right to worry about their continued influence with an ever changing American demographic. The Justus Brothers entered the civil rights scene upon the death of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., hoping to ride the wave of civil rights that Dr. King had so brilliantly created. They were/are nothing like Dr. King, encouraging violence at every step of the way, and using scams and blackmail to line their pockets. But black Americans wanted/needed someone to speak up for them after the death of Dr. King and so they never looked behind the curtains that Sharpton and Jackson covered their true motives behind.
But something happened to the Justus Brothers on the way to the bank.
The 2010 U.S. census shows that the percentage of black Americans is decreasing. If I am correct, black Americans now represent less than 10% of our population. But the “Hispanic” population has now grown to be almost 15%. So in sheer numbers, Hispanics now outnumber blacks, 3 to 2. This surely is partially due to the fact that black women, in greater numbers than any other demographic, are aborting their unborn children. The largest Planned Parenthood abortion mill in the country can be found in Congresswoman Shiela Jackson Lee’s Houston district, which is primarily black. They are rapidly killing off the next generation, the generation that by all accounts, would be used to continue the grievance policies promoted by Sharpton and Jackson.
Compare that to the growth in the Hispanic population, where, as Michael Barger states, education for their children is their primary concern.
Pew Hispanic Research reports that in the 2008 election cycle, Hispanics voted Republican by 30%. By 2010, that percentage had increased 8%, to 38% and provided us with two extremely conservative Hispanic Congressmen from Texas, Bill Flores and Francisco Canseco. Amazing considering that Canseco’s district is comprised of almost all counties that border Mexico, takes in over half of the Texas border counties, and has a population that is primarily Hispanic. If, in the next election, the percentage of Hispanics voting Republican increases as it did in the last two cycles, Hispanics will be voting Republican by 46%. That, my friends, is the real threat to those who have, for so long, gained great wealth by promoting racial strife. As well as a threat to the re-election of Barack Obama.
In border states that have a high rate of Hispanics, the high school graduation and college entry gap between whites and Hispanics has shrunk measurably. And as these Hispanic kids gain advanced educations, they no longer buy into the “persecution” meme that whites, who they are marrying, are the enemy. And what does this have to do with the greivance mongers? It puts their gravy train at risk. And they know it. They have a smaller and smaller audience to spew their filth at. And they are so set in their ways of demanding that whites are the racists, they don’t know how to counteract the growth of Hispanics who are replacing them in the tony halls of the powerbrokers in Washington, D.C. They need a “crisis” that they cannot “allow to go to waste.” (In my last local election, three candidate of Mexican heritage ran for public office. All three ran as Republicans, and they were elected because a great majority of their fellow Mexican-Americans voted for them.) Enter, Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, a local issue that the Justus Brothers, and their enablers, had to take national to try to hold on to their power and influence. It never occured to them that some would fight back against the distortions and spin. But in order to do that, a minority, George Zimmerman, had to be portrayed as “white” to fan the flames of a ever more racially divided nation due to the actions of the half black president.
Hispanics pose a great threat to those poverty pimps and race baiters that have used racial divide for four decades to line their pockets. In sheer numbers, they are losing that battle. And although LaShaun Barber has pointed out many times that the racial strife, especially in Los Angeles, is not between black and white gangs but between the Crips and Bloods and MS-13, that has to be ignored in order to continue the meme that it is only the whites of the nation that have ill feelings toward people of a different ethnicity.
One other point: while black preachers take to the pulpit on Sundays to denounce the ill treatment of black America, Hispanics are flowing into Catholic churches on Sundays to hear their priest denounce Obama’s war on the Catholic Church. And they are being reminded of the persecution their ancestors suffered at the hands of a Marxist president who sought to abolish the Catholic Church, and its influence, in early 20th century Mexico with the release of Andy Garcia’s film on the Cristeros. Hispanics, by nature, are not trusting of any government, but they trust their priests, and their priests are telling them that Obama wants to destroy their right to worship as they choose and their right to believe in Catholic doctrine. This is a major problem for the current administration, and they know it. So they enter the Martin/Zimmerman fray to try to build support in an ever diminishing demographic, the black voter.
Once again, I apologize for jumping in line, and the length of this entry, but these are facts that cannot be ignored in the political football that George Zimmerman has become. It will only be through blogs like this that Jorge Zimmerman will stand any chance of fair treatment through the exposure of the true goals of the Martin/Fulton/Crump/Jackson/Sharpton cabal.
Zane – what you say it true. The NAACP and African Americans are losing their “special position” on so-called, “White America”. In fact there will be no future, “White America”. In the last six months, the number of “multi-race” babies EXCEEDED the number of “white babies”. In 70 years, this country will be fully “multi-race” and “multi-culture”. This is why Sharpton and the NAACP are fighting so hard – not for “racial equality”, but for a “special race” that receives extra-special treatment because there skin is slight more black than others. That is indeed fighting for racial in-equailty – and is little different that the KKK fighting for their racial in-equality. Both groups are simply racist.
Well said, Zane!
There are times when I don’t mind one bit when somebody jumps the line. This is one of them. Very well said.
And don’t under-estimate yourself, Zane! This would be well read at the end of a long line as well! Thank you.
Agreed! Very well said indeed! =)
Terrific article. Thanks so much.
I love reading a well written arguement whether I agree with the thesis or not. You did a great job and even better I agree wth you.
When one lives in a crowded enclave filled with people who look much like you, it’s easy to overestimate your numbers in proportion to the larger society.
I’ve posted something much like this to a number of these clowns:
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I’ll keep this in simple terms so you can keep up.
You and yours are this many ——————– > 1
“Them demons and devils” are this many —- > 1 1 1 1 1
Not only do “them demons and devils” outnumber you by MORE than 5 to 1, but they also typically own AT LEAST a rifle, pistol and shotgun – making it possible for them to arm AT LEAST two more “devils.”
They also buy their ammo in thousand-round cases, and train their women and children to easily hit a man-sized target at 200+ yards.
Most importantly, they don’t hold their Glock sideways, because they know what those little dots on the top are for.
We’ll all be best off if you get a clue, and pour yourself a nice cup of STFU – however if you REALLY want to do this, then we might as well just go ahead and get it over with.
I suppose a good game of “cowboys and morons” is LOOONnnnggg overdue, and the world will be a much better place without most of you hateful animals.
So… If you’re sure that’s what you want, then …
Just.BRING.IT!
Dedicated Dad, I am of the firm belief that we are happier, safer, more prosperous, when we can get to the point where a person is truely judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin.
But I fear the division that is being promoted by those who financially profit from that division, will lead to a repeat of our national history that should only be experience in text books. White America has truely reached the point where they are sick of being told that they are racists, and must pay for the sins of their ancestors. Eventually, that simmering pot will turn into a rolling boil, and chaos will ensue. The fact that the one industry Obama has helped to see record profits, the arms/ammunition industry, speaks to the fact that the average American is worried about their personal safety more than any other time in our modern day history.
Unlike Elizabeth Warren, my family is listed on the Dawes Rolls. When I hear the race baitors dredge up the history of slavery, it makes my blood boil. It is as if they think that black Americans have no ancestral history of persecution. If anyone believes that, I suggest they do some diligent research into the Buffalo Soldiers and what their orders/goal were. It was not the enslavement of an another people, but the total annihilation of another people. How would black students react if they learned that even after their ancestors were released from the bonds of slavery, these ancestors also rode into Native American villages, killing all there, and riding out with the uterus of an Indian woman, cut from her while she was still alive, attached to their saddle horns.
There is a reason that Cuban Americans are, for the most part, Republicans. They truely understand what Socialism/Marxism is all about, and it is all about the persecution of those who want to prosper by their own merit. I have friends who are first generation Americans, their parents having been Cuban boat people after having everything their family owned confiscated by the Castro regiem. Their fear of Obama is monumental.
Zane, Do you know that whites did not enslave the blacks. They did it to each other – different tribes, their brothers or sisters, their own children. They then sold their products to traders at coastal ports who sold to the “white” man. Slavery still goes on today in Africa. One of the largest slave holders in the south at the time of the War of Northern Aggression was a black man.
My initial reaction to that first video was a laugh at the statement that they would not “sit back passively like Jews.” So when were the Jews ever passive? They even attacked the Romans! Truth is, they declared war on Hitler shortly after he got into office which is what resulted in their subsequent internment, not to “exterminate” them, but rather because he made a deal with the Zionist banker Jews desiring to populate Israel that he would deport the others down to that sand pit they otherwise preferred not to move to. In exchange, the Zionists called off their boycott and brokered German products for him. They got richer and were able to drive the Palestinians out of their homes and build up power in Israel, and he got rid of the Communists being a pain in his side and had revenues to build his military. When all was said and done, he was demonized for genocide and almost every Jew in the world received reparations from the German people.
So where did all these Marxists in the US come from? Any one figure that part out yet?
It is not about race or religion or skin color. It is ALL about the content of our characters.
Susie, slavery is as old as Cain and Able, And yes, you are correct that Africans sold other Africans into slavery willingly. White slave traders were afraid to go into the interior of Africa due to tribal wars, so they sat on the coast, and the slaves were (generally) brought to them.
Years ago I read an article in the National Preservation magazine about how one of the most prolific slave ship captains was a free born American black. He seemed to have no trouble enslaving his own. Research Melrose Plantation in Louisiana. Marie Coin-Coin was a black woman, formally a slave, who owned many, many slaves on her own. So it always strikes me as a bit hypocritical when I see people like Louis Farrakhan support Islam that to this day, supports slavery, while ignoring the part American blacks played in the business of slavery in the U.S..
Where did all the Marxist come from? Well, a contributing factor for what is now modern-day Marxism in America was due to the exodus of the Frankfurt School’s Marxist professors to the United States. They were highly educated men who gained positions at American universities like Columbia, UCLA, Stanford, and were allowed to promote Marxism to their students. Our American universities are hot-beds of Marxist thought. Ironically, many of the Frankfort School were Jewish.
“a nice cup of STFU – ” ( the contents of my cup are all over my laptop screen after reading this)
“they know what those little dots on the top are for” (so THAT’s why they hold those guns that way)
Thank you DD, for a moment of levity in a very serious topic.
I wish I could claim credit, but it’s a well-known meme:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&q=how+about+a+nice+cup+of+stfu
This one’s my favorite:
http://www.datensklaven.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/nice_big_cup_of_stfu.jpg
As to the Glock thing, my biggest fear is that someone will tell them about
HoMeBoY Nyte Sytes!!
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/images/nyte-sytes.jpg
(Note: it’s a JOKE – an OLD one at that – but that didn’t stop media morons all over the US and even certain congress-critters from having a fo-real conniption-FIT over it at the time!
Where have I been?? They even have graphics… I’ve obviously led a sheltered life.
Of course, that 5 to 1 isn’t monolithic. At least one of the 5 will side with the lone 1. Another 2 will probably sit out of any conflict for fear of being called racist, historical guilt, etc. That puts the fight at 2 on 2, or pretty fair odds. Then add in the fact that the 5 group is ruled by a structure that favors the lone 1, and the media/propaganda forces are similarly arrayed. So that fearsome 5 to 1 disadvantage is, in realistic terms, probably a 2.2 or 2.3 to 1 advantage.
Did Ya’ll hear? Comcast/NBC News has just been caught editing Mitt Romney’s Speeches so as to give Political Advantage to Barack (If I had a son) Obama!!!! Same as they edited George Zimmerman’s 911 call so as to make it appear that George was a Racist!!! Can not believe what is going on over at Comcast/NBC/MSNBC they are just simply completely OUT of CONTROL over there for sure!! TOTALLY UNBELIEVIBLE TOTALLY SPAZ!!!!!!!
I’ve been hearing about the edited tapes of Romney at MSNBC being compared to the doctored tapes from the GZ case on many conservative talk shows today. In a roundabout way, GZ is actually getting some attention to the deceit and deception of the liberal media, and especially MSNBC. It’s a small step for GZ, but any info out there about the deceit against GZ is very welcome.
Governor Scott just terminated Florida’s Innocence Commission. In Florida 23 people have been found to be innocent and released from Death Row since 1973. What a guy.
Are you serious??? OMG. What was his given reason for doing so?
To save the 200k it costs. How bout that. Ugghhh! What a Bum.
And what was the tab again on that FDLE posse trying to round up the dirt on Zimmerman?? And all the shenanigans by Corey, et al?? WAY more than 200K, I’m sure.
Only 200k a year. He is awful. Corey’s butt buddy going after minority groups. Crump is right in there with Scott and Bondi in this. What a bunch of Dupes Trayvon knee jerkers are.
Corey’s latest and greatest? She is going after a kid that just turned 12, for premeditated murder. That should put him away for life. Imagine what that will cost the tax-payers for the 60 years he will spend in prison. So delete the innocence project? Corey is immune from challenge in her efforts here. Power Corrupts – Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
They only work on post-conviction appeals. Corey is good for their business. Unfortunately.
Yep. What a bum. They could get rid of Angela Corey and save the same amount and make a whole bunch of people happy at the same time.
Sick! (but what’s even sicker is that most states don’t even have such a thing AT ALL)
The Black’s on board with this persecution are committing Trayvonicide. Shooting themselves right in the foot. They are hopping right on the OBS with Scott, Bondi, and Corey what a bunch of ignorant Dupes.
For real. You’d think they would DESPISE a person like Corey. But now she’s like their messiah or something?…. very, very strange
Plus Ultra
Those sorts of projects are a bit of a joke anyway, as they only focus on Death Row. People who draw life without parole sentences don’t get the same review – they’re left to rot. There was a pretty good interview with death row releasee who was saying how lucky it was that he got the death penalty – if he hadn’t, his case never would have been examined and he never would have been freed.
100% right. Thanks
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I am off to bed and will read the whole thing tomorrow. I endorse what SD is stating about the bigger picture because this is even bigger than he thinks.
This story has had some exposure here in Australia. There is one conservative journalist who has at least given the Zimmerman side of the story but it is in the comments field where I have seen what I think SD is saying and those comments have come from the Marxists who inhabit that particular blog.
Yes, it is true, that the extreme left are all using the same narrative on this story. They do it without checking the details…. this is part of the reason why I get fed up and growl a little bit at people who seem to just spout the usual garbage without any independent thought… yup… they seem to check their brains at the door, and they become like zombies as they spout the narrative.
The left uses past offenses to draw in the unsuspecting Black population. Indefensible past things like the Tuskeegee Syphilis experiments and slavery in the last century.. This closes the minds of the dupes and makes it easy for them to be led down the path of the left. The Blacks for sure feel like victims of police profiling and it is a sore spot that is being used.
Howie, the big connection for me happens to be the Green-Left, the Marxists and the Communists, and groups here in Australia who are funded by George Soros. These are the ones who are keeping up the lying meme that George is a White man who is racist and that the thug was some innocent child. It is very difficult battling that lying meme.
Hi SunDance, I am for TRUTH. I know that we on “TreeHouse” have devoted an incredible amount of time to this – but injustice for George Zimmerman goes against my grain. Your last write-up summarizing GZ’s self-defense case, versus the cooked story “tweeked” out of DeDe – hit the nail of the head. What you are doing is “research journalism” similar to Walter Wintchell. That type of serious interest in intellectual honesty – seems totally lost in the press and in the Media today! Thanks for taking the time you have taken – and being honest for all of us.
Agreed. When the Zimmerman-Martin shooting first became national news, it appeared to be an unjustified shooting but my own personal experience of having my brother murderred by an “unarmed” robber made me reluctant to accept this narrative without first checking the facts. The revelation of how Matt Guttman at the Today show had carefully edited the 911 tape to make it appear that Zimmerman had racially profiled Martin provoked my incredulity. The eagerness with which various political groups, especially the gun control lobby, have exploited this incident to advance their political agenda provoked my hostility. I had questions. Had TM assaulted GZ? How severe was that assault? How close was GZ to his vehicle? How close was TM to Brandy Greene’s townhouse? Had GZ attempted to detain or restrain TM? Had GZ attempted to detain and restrain TM without actually witnessing him commit a crime?
I never would have found the answers to these questions if I hadn’t discoverred the The Conservative Treehouse. This is the first place where I have seen a detailed and accurate diagram or map of the incident. This is the first place that published evidence of the severity of GZ’s injuries and the assault against him. This is the place where I found accurate information about TM’s background that confirms that his assault against GZ was not out of character.
More importantly, it was the Treehouse that revealed the existence of groups such as the National Black Footsoldiers. My own research revealed the existence of the Florida Black Footsoldiers whose website has been scrubbed including Google cache. (Sundancer should be doing threads devoted to these assholes)
I knew the FBI crime stats far better the most cops, so I knew that blacks are the perps as well as the victims of a disproportionate number of homicides. I also knew that the FBI crime stats about interracial homicides are misleading because they compile stats only for incidents where there is only a single offender and a single victim. Most hate related homicides, (such as a stereotypical lynching by the KKK which happened how many years ago?) are multiple assailants killing a single victim or multiple victims. The stats for the race of persons arrested make it painfully obvious that blacks are far more likely to commit murders in which multiple assailant kill a single victim or multiple victims. The FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports often have partial data based on witness accounts for homicides that remain unsolved which reveals that Blacks are far, far more likely than whites to commit interracial homicides, especially interacial homicides in which a gang attacks one or multiple victims.
The sad fact is that the GZ-TM shooting has been hyped and exploited by groups who want to:
Repeal SYG laws,
Restrict gun ownership,
Aid and abet criminals by making it illegal for crime victims to resist criminals or even take notice of suspicious persons and report them to the police.
After having a brother murderredbya an “unarmed” robber (weapon was a Dodge van), this provokes a visceral hatred for the lawyers, the journalists, the politicians and the prosecutors pushing the Martin-Crump agenda.
The race hustlers and poverty pimps have already inflicted severe economic damage on the country and the white middle class by extorting loans from our banks tat they never had the intention or the means to repay. Now they want to declare open season on us,
If these assholes want to provoke a race war, fine, bring it on.
Hi John – I have not had a personal loss from “race crime”.
But you are totally correct. There are two groups that wish to exploit the tragedy – by vastly distorting what actually happened. (SunDance spelled it out with searing clarity.) There is one group that think that the 2n Amendment should be deleted from the Bill of Rights. They want is to “disarm” – and make us victims of this “thug class”. The second group are those people who think the “world” owes them a living – and wish to make this case “pay off” for them. It is the confluence of goals and interests of these two groups that have produced massive fibs that were “spoon fed” into the public by the Media. This is why it takes so long to “figure this out”. You are correct – but it takes a hell of a lot of determination, and the freedom of TreeHouse to do justice to this story.
My brother’s murderer was white just like my brother. For me the issue has always been crime, justice, police and judicial dereliction of duty, and the right to self defense.
The politicians keep us distracted from the fact that most police in the US have become incrediably incompetent. Back in the 1950s, cops cleared over 90% of crimes by arresting the perps. Conviction rates were high as well. In the 1960s clearance rates plummeted so that by the 1970s murderers had one chance in three of never getting arrested. Homicide rates began to soar only after arrest rates declined. The politicians blamed the ncreased murder rates on guns, but the percentage of homicides committed with firearms DECREASED between 1960 and 1970 when the increase in murder rates was most severe. There is an absolutely rock solid, causative correlation between low arrest rates and high murder rates. Even when murder rates finally began to decline, starting in the late 1990s, the percentage of murders committed with guns didn’t decline so it wasn’t the gun. Control laws that did it. Clearance rates also remained low, so the cops can’t claim credit either. The major causes of decreased homicide were citizens arming themselves and demographic changes. The biggest demographic change was a decrease of bastard babies born to teenaged black women during the 1980s and 1990/ and continuing today.
I have wondered about the BFS Web site being *scrubbed* can that scrubbing eliminate any contacts Tvon had there or viewings of the site? It had some notice on the home page. I was curious about that. But that was the main site. Is there a separate Florida branch? After scrubbing is all info lost?
Google cache, wayback machine can retain some info after deletion.
I wonder if Tvon had his own computer and if it is still around?
Trayvon most certainly had his own computer a laptop with webcam. That is what he used to upload the pictures of him giving the finger, and sharing his tattoos….
Yeah….. good luck ever finding that
Crump prolly threw it quickly into biscane bay.
Agreed SD. It is probably keeping company with TM’s cell phone.
SD – in doing a little research, came across this, in case you hadn’t seen it. BFS is absolutely evil; why is this any different than white KKK? Is BPP connected to BFS?http://collectiveunderground.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/the-devils-blueberry-pie-by-reverend-al-sharpton-there-is-only-1-political-party-in-america-they-are-white-and-they-whether-democrats-or-republicans-are-both-devils-nbfsn-presiden/
just call both groups the BKKK
I think a key to cracking this case is the social media communications of Tvon, DD, Tvons cousin, and Tvon and DD’s and Tvons cousins contacts there.
I highly doubt that Mitt Romney will enter the fray of the George Zimmerman incident. Pam Bondi came out swinging in his favor, and no doubt was instrumental in helping him to win the Fla. primary. Bondi has already layed her cards on the table, and has made it obvious that she is in the “Justice for Trayvon” camp. She is friends with Parks and Crump after all. Romney needs to win Fla. in order to win the presidency. He will not take up any position which will put him at odds with Pam Bondi and/or Gov. Scott. Yes it is that pathetically political.
“Obama Divides Americans by Race, Ethnicity, Religion”
by Bob Unruh – February 17, 2012
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obama-divides-americans-by-race-ethnicity-religion/
“TheTrayvon Martin Case and the Growing Racial Divide”
by Victor Davis Hanson – April 15, 2012
http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-trayvon-martin-case-and-the-growing-racial-divide/?singlepage=true
“Little-Known DOJ Cell Watches Trayvon Martin Protests”
by Keith Koffler – April 17, 2012
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/04/17/secretive-doj-force-watces-trayvon-protests/
“More from DHS Insider”
by Doug Hagmann – June 19, 2012
Excerpt – scroll down to
False Flag – always an option
My source continued: “As we’ve discussed, I heard something that troubled me deeply, and still does. As Obama’s approval rating dips, desperation becomes more of an issue. There is much discussion about the racial divide in this country, and as we talked about, there is an anticipation over the Trayvon Martin case. Depending on how things go, they are determined to inflate this into a much larger issue, and plan to fan the flames of racial division to cause a much broader divide resulting in a chaos on the streets.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/47420
Alan Keyes
Alan Keyes
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Alan Keyes – Border Control – Immigration – Playlist – 1/11
These speeches amount to nothing more than blaming others and making excuses for their own personal failures. They’ve assumed the role of professional victims, and therefore are unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions.
It’s always someone else’s fault no matter what the situation.. i.e. I had a bad childhood, I grew up poor, I didn’t receive a good education, I was sexually abused, I can’t get a job because White’s are racist, ad infinitum. Pick your excuse, any will do. They’re unwilling to see how their own actions, choices, beliefs, etc. effect the outcome of their interactions with other members of society.
You can’t legislate personal responsibility, good work ethics, or morality. These are all things that must be learned and assimilated by an individual via appropriate role models throughout their life. If your culture doesn’t embrace these traits, you most likely won’t practice them in your own life.
Seems like the legislation is intended to enable the thought process you mention.
“…You can’t legislate personal responsibility, good work ethics, or morality. These are all things that must be learned and assimilated by an individual via appropriate role models throughout their life. If your culture doesn’t embrace these traits, you most likely won’t practice them in your own life.”
If your culture instead suffers from endemic bastardy, rabidly attacks anyone who dares attempt education or integration into the greater society, emphasizes that work is for “suckas” and dependency on handouts is preferable, and petty criminality is not only accepted but encouraged – you’ll end up with what we see today.
“Black neighborhoods” typically more closely resemble a third-world hell-hole than a part of the largest economy in history. I saw this video this morning:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1696475568001/
This poor fool doesn’t think he lives in a war zone? Detroit bears more resemblance to Mogadishu than to any other Western city!
The problem is *NOT* race. Contrary to what most leftards FEEL, it’s not “poverty” either. I grew up poor, surrounded by people of all races – many of whom made me feel rich by comparison – but we NEVER had these sorts of problems.
The problem is CULTURE. Just have a look at the Twitter and FB postings by TM and his social-circle and tell me how anyone BUT THEM can fix this!
“DeeDee” is another perfect example. This girl has spent ~11 YEARS in school, but lacks even the most basic grasp of her native language, and the ability to communicate even simple concepts effectively. It is unquestionable that there ARE students in that school who DID learn the things they needed to learn, so it’s NOT the school!
The race-pimps love to blame “institutional racism”, but this too falls apart under the most basic questioning. DC schools exist in a city that’s overwhelmingly black. The entire city .gov is black. The school-board is black, as are the principals and teachers. It’s not a matter of funding, as DC schools’ per-capita spending is the highest in the WORLD! Yet they still have outcomes among the worst.
The problem is CULTURE – and there’s simply not a damn thing that anyone EXCEPT FOR BLACK FOLKS THEMSELVES CAN DO ABOUT IT!
I agree with you Dad on all points, their culture is definitely deficit. Enterprise is not something that is encouraged, criminality is nurtured rather than shunned, and the disrespect and abuse of women is a societally accepted behavior.
A perfect example of this type of cultural deficiency is Africa. Since apartheid ended and the British no longer govern, the country has spiraled into chaos. The corrupt Black leaders steal from their people to pad their Swiss bank accounts, lawlessness rules, basic utility services like electricity and water are unreliable due to vandalism or lack of maintenance, hospital are few and far between due to the similar reasons, roads have fallen into gross disrepair, civil wars are rampant, and almost a fifth of the continent is infected with HIV/AIDS. Robbery, rape, murder, and torture are commonplace occurrences. Sounds a lot like Detroit doesn’t it? LOL
“And on April 25, “Ken” posted this comment on the blog Conservative Treehouse when the site went down, assuring those who had donated that George would receive the money. These updates were posted to his now-defunct website while he was in jail.”
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/6/18/225020/679
In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Chuck, the problem is that the gubmint has legislated away personal responsiblility over the years. We are largely a nation of sheeple.
Yup, I can hear the constant bleating of their hearts everywhere I go.. Baaaaaaaa LOL
I can’t read the article, but the abstract is bad enough. You would think a law prof would promote due process and not a lynching. And no, the police did not investigate for only a few days. And if the Martins were seeking justice, they sure weren’t acting like it.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/conservatives-and-the-trayvon-martin-case/#
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/19/opinion/nejame-angela-corey/index.html
Did politics drive prosecution in Trayvon Martin case?
By Mark NeJame, CNN Contributor
updated 9:39 AM EDT, Tue June 19, 2012
…Corey was appointed by Gov. Rick Scott to prosecute the case after Norman Wolfinger, the experienced state attorney for the 18th Judicial Circuit who had been in office 18 years, mysteriously announced that he was stepping down from the case, “to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest …”
Even though Wolfinger had one of his most experienced career prosecutors, Jim Carter, involved in the case within hours of the shooting and had scheduled a grand jury to consider the case, he unexpectedly left.
To this day, there’s no documentation or public statement about what possible conflict of interest existed. From the many I have talked to and from all that I have learned, it is my informed belief that there was no conflict of interest at all.
Contrary to some speculation, Wolfinger wasn’t personally involved in the investigation and had never met Zimmerman or Zimmerman’s father. Why was that prosecutors’ office, which even Corey praised, replaced?
The reasons are:
1) Do you like your job?
2) Do you want to be paid?
3) Do you want to avoid a “Thug Riot”?
4) Do you want to avoid worthless conflict?
5) Do you want to avoid, “Nasty Grams” from Corey. (I am certain Wolfinger and Carter heard these stories about Corey.)
6) They even “got” the Police Chief Lee.
Yes, that is indeed “dirty politics”.
NeJame is correct about Corey – SHE IS IMMUNE.
“Regardless of the outcome, Corey is protected by prosecutorial immunity for her actions, right or wrong. I’m suspicious when those in power can seemingly act without personal consequence for their actions but behave as if they are also immune from public criticism when they are challenged.”
Otis> I know that Crump is smart enough to promote OTHERS to “Lie” for him. So he will NEVER GET CAUGHT. DeDe will escape – because she is too young to charge her with anything. Corey will escape ANY RESPONSIBILITY because she is a, “protected official”. In fact they all will escape any consequences for their actions. It that clear?
“NeJame is correct about Corey – SHE IS IMMUNE”
That’s what Nifong thought, too. Prosecutors are not immune to criminal charges such as criminal contempt and obstruction of justice. BDLR acted as an investigator in taking Dee Dee’s deposition and does not even have unqualified civil immunity. If BDLR spent a couple of hours with Crump and Dee Dee scripting false testimony prior to the 22 minute interview and Dee Dee gets heat and starts talking, the entire house of cards may come down.
Hot Damn! After the Scott, Corey Bondi connection. The strange bedfellows in this case. The Orange Blossom Special rolls on. Why would the Crump, Media, Sharpton crew get in bed with the Scot, Corey, Bondi crew? What is the Mutual benefit?
The short answer howie- $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Scott holds the keys to the purse, just as Crist did. He would rather pay the shakedown artists off than to have race riots in his state, and on his watch. There’s also the RNC convention coming up in
MiamiTampa shortly.Grrrr!
Is that what Wolverines sound like? Grrrr!
They also look like Grrrrrr.
I love that semi-rabid-looking wolverine that is our logo.
You guys know that honey badgers are even MORE in-your-face than wolverines, don’t you? Those dudes don’t care about ANYTHING!
youtubecom/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg (hope I edited the link enough to prevent it from posting the actual video… and warning, some NSFW language)
From “About That “DeeDee” Thing….” thread:
(Notice the similarity in statements.)
“PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Well, Piers, first let me tell you. I’ve spoken to Trayvon’s parents. They are amazing, sweet, kind people. My heart goes out to them. I’m actually friends with their attorneys Ben Crump and Daryl Parks. They’re wonderful lawyers who are representing them.”
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100007220&docId=l:1642095660&isRss=true&Em=4
MSNBC
SHOW: POLITICS NATION 6:00 PM EST
April 11, 2012 Wednesday
…ANGELA COREY, SPECIAL PROSECUTOR, FLORIDA: Good evening, everyone. I`m Angela Corey, the special prosecutor for the Trayvon Martin case.
Just moments ago we spoke on the phone with Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin. It was less than three weeks ago that we told those sweet parents that we would get answers to all of their questions no matter where the quest for the truth led us.
__________________________________________
About that special prosecutor appointment:
Sharpton: …Because his parents refused to leave it there. His parents acting out of love and acting out of the basic principals this country is built on, decided that they would go to some able attorneys, and they went to Mr. Crump and Mr. Parks and Attorney Jackson.
(APPLAUSE)
They believed in the system. And believed that the arrest would be made. And they waited until the police chief — let us not confuse the issue, he announced there would be no arrest. That`s when Attorney Crump called us, we were marching in Selma to Montgomery. This change.org went viral, National Action Network and some of us hit the streets. I remember the night we had the first big rally. Thirty thousand people, on that afternoon, Governor Scott asked to meet. He flew in and met and said he was going to appoint a special prosecutor. I will say publicly that I did not trust Governor Scott. I did not trust the appointment. I want to congratulate him and the prosecutor for being what they should be.
Crump: …I have to say thank you as a Florida citizen to our governor, Rick Scott, who came and met with the family that night and said that it is important that we get this right. He said that it`s important we get it right. And he appointed special prosecutor Angela Corey who told you how she prayed with the family and did not make any promises to us.
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http://www.examiner.com/article/florida-governor-rick-scott-seeks-justice-for-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman
…Florida Governor Rick Scott stated, “Well, I want — you just feel — your heart goes out to that family. I had the opportunity to meet with the parents Thursday night to let them know that I appointed a new state attorney and introduced them to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement agents that are working on the case. And you’re just — you know, your heart goes out to them, because you just no family ever imagines this could ever happen to their child.”
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/20/2703918_p2/lawyer-girl-on-phone-with-trayvon.html
…“(DeeDee) connects the dots,” said Crump, who added he plans to turn the tape over to federal investigators, but not to Sanford police.
Morgenstern, the Sanford police spokesman, said the department had urged anyone with information to come forward, and the girl who was talking to Trayvon that night never did.
“We are open to the U.S. Department of Justice and the FDLE to come take a look our investigation, pick it apart, criticize it and let us know how we did,” he said. “We think we’ve done the best and fairest investigation we could.”
On Tuesday, members of the Congressional Black Caucus in Washington, D.C. — joined by Sanford’s mayor — met with senior Justice Department officials, including the head of the civil rights division, Thomas Perez, to talk about Trayvon’s death.
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-03-22/justice/justice_florida-teen-shooting_1_shooting-death-justice-department-investigation?_s=PM:JUSTICE
…Also Thursday, Gov. Rick Scott announced that he was appointing Angela B. Corey of the 4th Judicial Circuit as state attorney in the investigation, replacing Norman Wolfinger, state attorney for Florida’s 18th District, which includes Sanford. Wolfinger requested someone else be assigned, saying in a letter to Scott: “This request is being made in light of the public good with the intent of toning down the rhetoric and preserving the integrity of this investigation.”
…Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division Thomas Perez told reporters in a conference call that the investigation is being carried out in coordination with the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Middle District of Florida.
“We’re in the fact-gathering stage and we’re working collaboratively with the state’s attorney’s office and the local authorities to figure out what happened,” he said. “We don’t know what the facts are yet. We’re gathering the facts and as we gather the facts we will then determine whether or not the facts support a prosecution under the civil rights laws that we enforce.”
The meeting was attended by the special agent in charge for the FBI Tampa Division, Steven E. Ibison; U.S. Attorney Robert O’Neill; and Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the U.S. Department of Justice – Civil Rights Division, Roy Austin, Jr.
Grrrr! He is disgusting.
Excellent link. While much of the conservative alternative media or politicians or conservative big money seemed comfortable “turning over rocks” when say an organization like ALEC was targeted, it is not comfortable for them to turn over rocks when an individual of no influence or means has been targeted….unless that person conveniently fits into a campaign…say Joe the Plumber. GZ does not fit into the “useful” category.
When legislation is introduced based on the effective attack on a “useless” individual to the conservative side, they will find out how “useful” that person of no reputation was to their political opponents. Hopefully one of the few truth tellers with immediate influence of inalienable rights endowed by Our Creator will see it and speak truth suddenly and relentlessly.
Not sure why NeJame would be making a mystery of the replacement of Wolfinger.
“According to a news release by Scott’s office the gov. and state Atty. Gen. Pam Bondi asked State Attorney Norman Wolfinger to step aside in favor of Corey.”
There you go, that was easy, Scott and Bondi asked him to step aside. I would not be one bit surprised if Corey didn’t ask Scott and Bondi to give the case to her. She had a re-election coming up, and she wasn’t doing very well with the minority communities. The narcissistic bimbo also believes that only she had the experience to prosecute this case. The author of the linked article claims that Wolfinger had a top guy assigned to the case, that could have handled it as well as the Bimbo.
From Corey-
“All cases where self defense is claimed are a challenge, Corey said……Anytime there’s a remote possibility of any affirmative defense in a homicide case, we like to get right on top of it.”
Yes you do like to get right on top of it Corey, don’t you. Too bad you have now angered another minority group bimbo, GZ is a minority, just as Christian Fernandez was, who you also angered. Too bad the truth is making it’s way onto the scene bimbo. Your days as Persecutor, I pray are numbered.
It was good to see NeJame at least lightly question the removal of Norm Wolfinger, but it isn’t enough, not by far.
If Corey got on top of something it would be hard to get out from under. Whew!
Right howie- If Corey literally got on top of GZ, and straddled him like TM did, he would have had as much a chance of survival as he does now. You might as well just put GZ in a car compactor.
That could be a good employment opportunity for her if she gets fired as a scapegoat for Bondi. Compactor in a junkyard.
Ordinarily, no matter how much I dislike a person, I try to avoid making fun of them for their looks, size, etc. But in this case, Corey being such an EVIL HUMAN BEING… I think I’ll make an exception.
“Scott and Bondi asked him to step aside.”
Sound familiar?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-10-03-3868327840_x.htm
…Benjamin Crump , the attorney who represented Anderson’s family in a lawsuit against the state, told protesters that the defense was focusing on sickle cell trait because attorneys were “looking for any excuse to justify what happened on the tape.”
After an outcry from Anderson’s family and the public last year over the death investigation, then-Gov. Jeb Bush appointed Hillsborough County State Attorney Mark Ober as a special prosecutor to avoid a conflict of interest for local law enforcement.
http://images.usatoday.com/Wires2Web/20071004/3868327840_Boot_Camp_Deathx.jpg
…Prosecutor Pam Bondi, blonde hair, (And CRUMP?) confers in court with Gina Jones, right, mother of Martin Lee Anderson, 14, Wednesday, Oct. 3, 2007, in Panama City, Fla., where seven former juvenile boot camp guards and a nurse are on trial for the teen’s death in January 2006.
wiki: …She is a former prosecutor and spokeswoman in Hillsborough County, Florida where she worked as an Assistant State Attorney. Bondi resigned this position to seek the office of Attorney General of Florida.
… Bondi also prosecuted the Martin Anderson death defendants.
See if we can find more pics of Bondi from that trial. Pics of Bondi with Crump and crew…
I just had an idea of how to help GZ by using Romney’s controvery avoidance fear, in combination of leveraging the ego endorsement of Bondi……
There is a way to use the media who hate Romney to our advantage on this one. I know you can see what I’m saying.
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/03/15/images/large/A_1_1Ahug_236652_0315.jpg
Gina Jones hugs Dr. Michael Baden after he spoke about the initial findings of a second autopsy performed on Jones’ son, Martin Lee Anderson. Looking on, from left, are Jones’ attorney, Benjamin Crump, and Curtis Stokes of the Hillsborough County NAACP.
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060314/060314_bootcamp_hmed_9a.grid-6×2.jpg
Mari Darr~welch / AP
The body of Martin Lee Anderson, 14, who died after a videotaped beating by guards at a juvenile boot camp, was exhumed Friday for a second autopsy.
http://www.caica.org/NEWS%20DEATHS%20MARTIN%20furor%20grows.htm
Ben Crump, standing right, the attorney for Gina Jones, center, and Robert Anderson, standing left, addresses students demonstrating in the office of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush after a meeting with Bush, Thursday, April 20, 2006, in Tallahassee, Fla. Jones and Anderson are the parents of 14-year-old Martin Lee Anderson, who died after he was kicked and struck by guards at a Panama City juvenile boot camp in January 2006. A sit-in at Bush’s office stretched into a second day Thursday as about 30 college students protested the state’s response to the incident. The students, who met with Bush on Wednesday, are demanding the arrest of guards who were videotaped beating and kicking the boy. (AP Photo/Steve Cannon)
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. –Gov. Jeb Bush is facing a rapidly growing furor over the death of a 14-year-old boy at a juvenile boot camp, with about 1,500 demonstrators accusing authorities Friday of a cover-up, and Florida’s chief law enforcement officer resigning under fire.
The student protesters, led by the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, demanded answers regarding the death in January of Martin Lee Anderson, who was punched and kicked by guards in a videotaped scuffle.
…Friday’s protest came a day after Guy Tunnell, commissioner of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, resigned amid criticism over his handling of the case and a joke that the governor called “inappropriate.”
The Miami Herald reported that at a meeting of department heads, Tunnell likened Sen. Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden and Jackson to the outlaw Jesse James.
Does anyone notice the irony of Crump being involved in the Martin Lee Anderson case and the Trayvon Martin shooting.
In the boot camp death case, a teen died as a result of over exertion and coercive physical force by guards that in combination with cycle cell syndrome resulted in death by positional asphyxiation.
In the Martin shooting, Zimmerman was being subjected to an assault that could have resulted in positional asphyxiation. Remember; Martin was straddling Zimmerman’s waist and hips which could have inhibited the functioning of his diaphragm, thus making it impossible for him to exhale, while also having his mouth covered. Thevfact that Zimmerman was able to call for help suggests that positional asphyxiation was not imminent, yet the nature of that assault in combination with repeated blows to the head could have easily resulted in asphyxiation.
The irony here is potentially useful because Crump and crew can not claim ignorance of the danger that TM was putting GZ in because of their involvement in the MLA case.
I meant to say that Martin sitting on GZ’s stomach would make it difficult for him to inhale rather than exhale.
Zim is an asthmatic.
Is there any proof that TM was straddling GZ’s waist and hips? A waist is several inches away from someone’s hips.TM could have been sitting higher up on GZ, which would have given GZ the opportunity to twist his hip to get to his holster, and the gun. If TM was sitting on GZ’s hips that would have been much more difficult for him to reach the gun. I haven’t read any reports which stated where TM was sitting on GZ.
GZ’s statements to the police as reported on this site were that TM knocked him down with one punch then straddled him to administer more strikes which impacted his head against the concrete sidewalk. No details of exact position are given.
However:
if someone is sitting on your hips, there will be little compression on your abdomen which might inhibit the function of your diaphragm. Drawing a gun from abet holster will be extremely difficult if not impossible.
If someone is sitting on your abdomen, the compression will inhibit the function of your diaphragm and breathing. Furthermore, their hips and thighs will obstruct your access to a holstered weapon. If they are repeatedly punching you while covering your mouth, this will further inhibit your breathing.
IMHO, TM was subjecting GZ to an assault that is unarguably potentially deadly even if there was no trauma occurring to the brain.
In mixed martial arts contests, taking someone down then straddling them to administer repeated head strikes is a favored technique. The padded arena reduces the risk of brain injury, but the presence of the referee to end the assault is needed to prevent positional asphyxiation.
GZ was getting his head pounded into a concrete sidewalk and there was no referee or anyone else, including his neighbors or police to end the assault.
Can we get Crump, Scott, Bondi and Corey to volunteer for experiments to verify that death by asphyxiation would have resulted if the assault against GZ had continued?
I think Tvons cousin was shown with a certain Belt. It was in a photo on CT. I wonder if it is an MMA belt. After all his Tweets say he was sort of training him. In addition to the witness saying he was using MMA style fighting on Zim.
Ok. Who is hogging all the reparations money? These greedy elite reparationists keep all the loot for themselves.
http://photos.lucywho.com/pam-bondi-photo-gallery-c17760874.html
(Corey pictured behind Bondi giving her 2010 victory speech.
Related: http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/florida-pam-bondi-joins-11-other-states-support-repeal-amendment)
/tampabay.com.blogs.the-buzz-florida-politics/files/images/typepad-legacy-files/98775.boot_camp_death_flsc101.jpg
May 23: Gov. Crist hands Gina Jones, mother of boot camp victim Martin Lee Anderson, a pen after signing a claims bill that was part of a $5-million award. AP Photo.
From this article Michael Baden said that the cause of death was “probably” from the beating. Most know that you can pay even so-called reputable people enough money to find in your favor. So, “probably” won the day for the Anderson case.
Looking at the photos of Gina and Robert (martins parents) it’s unbelievable how similar they are to all the SF and TM photots, right down to the sports photo. It’s like they just did a movie remake with a few different actors. Even that crazy woman with the cowboy hat makes an apperance or two. Just do a google image search, rediculously similar.
Just a note of interest, Did anyone know that Crump has a management company. Benjamin Crump Management Inc. Found it on the Follow the Money site.
http://www.followthemoney.org/database/StateGlance/contributor.phtml?d=759515804
The Democrat who ran for Attorney General now serves on Pam Bondis transition team The Democrat didn’t think that full repeal of Obamacare was necessary.
SD, please do it, and bring it home.
Published on May 7, 2012
Attorney General Pam Bondi was the first speaker to fire up the crowd at the Broward County Lincoln Day dinner Saturday night in Fort Lauderdale. Still excited from her recent argument in front of the US Supreme Court on the constitutionality of Obamacare, Bondi recalled some of her experiences concerning the case.Asked about the Palm Beach County States Attorney race, Bondi replied with high praises for Dave Aronberg.
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Pam+Bondi/Mitch+McConnell
Senate GOP And Democrats Discuss Supreme Court Oral Arguments On Affordable Care Act
In This Photo: Mitch McConnell, Pam Bondi
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) speaks with Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi during a news conference about the Supreme Court’s second day of hearings on the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act March 27, 2012 in Washington, DC. Bondi and 25 other attorneys general brought the case before the Supreme Court. Both Republicans and Democrats paid close attention to the questions and statements by Justice Anthony Kennedy during the court proceedings.
http://www.postonpolitics.com/tag/pam-bondi/
Gov. Rick Scott, First Lady Ann in Bahamas to watch Attorney General Pam Bondi tie the knot
May 26th, 2012
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/attorney-general-pam-bondis-cayman-trip-looked-like-a-wedding-it-wasnt-and/1232844
(Wonder if her “friends” Parks and Crump were invited?
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JQJmQlJQihY/SyPNN9kOQLI/AAAAAAAAGgQ/-gMOp9QtBr0/s640/Florida+Attorney+General+Pam+Bondi.jpg
http://www.flanews.com/?p=1204
�It was tragic and sad and horrific in so many ways,” said Gov. Charlie Crist.� “I think the Legislature acted very responsibly to help this family out.� They deserve the appropriate compensation that the Legislature bestowed upon them.”
Pam “Pay them off” Bondi. When they come a knockin’, get your banking account a rockin.’
She can’t stand up to the shakedown artists, but she expects to be a part of a Pres. Romney admin. Burrrrr!
You’re right that this isn’t enough from Nejame. But he’s getting there. First he tried to help shoot down the LIES that George is/was a racist. And now he’s going even further. Maybe a month from now he’ll be totally on-board with defending George. No matter what anyone thinks of Nejame, I’d say it’s much better to have him on our side than against us.
OMG, that is on CNN?!?!?!? WOW, that is pretty strong.
I think Nejame sees the train coming and is getting off the tracks. I wonder if he has information in addition to that posted here?
“Was there a fear that the grand jury might consider the evidence and not indict? SURE LOOKS LIKE IT. If that’s true, then the question is whether a fair and impartial review of the evidence actually occurred. Or were the charges that Corey brought a FOREGONE CONCLUSION from the onset?”
“I hope Dershowitz and others [GO WOLVERINES!] keep their scrutiny, questions and concerns forthcoming and don’t relent. Our democracy and the Constitution require it.”
Please George…. accept NO plea offer! Even involuntary manslaughter with no jail time attached. NOT GOOD ENOUGH! If you accept ANY blame, you’ll go through the rest of your life being considered a racist murderer of a little kid. There will STILL be people trying to hunt you down. (yeah… I guess that’ll happen even with the case being dismissed… but you get the drift)
Jello333 says:
June 19, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Please George…. accept NO plea offer! Even involuntary manslaughter with no jail time attached.
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Can you imagine if GZ did not accept a plea of involuntary manslaughter with no jail time attached, and then goes to trial and get’s convicted for 25 years. OMG. George may have to make one of the biggest decisions of his life and to not make the right one could cost him big time. Talk about regrets!
I would hate to be in his position. I believe if GZ was offered the plea that you referred to above – with (no jail time attached) that it would be a dereliction of O’Mara’s duties not to at least try to persuade GZ to accept the plea. There is too much at stake otherwise.
Yeah I know. We’re not in his position, so it’s not fair to say how we THINK we might behave under the same circumstances. I THINK I’d hold out, knowing full-well that I was 100% innocent and that this case has an impact on people FAR beyond just myself…. people all around the country who have been put in fear by the race-baiters. But I don’t really KNOW for a fact what I’d do. And believe me, if George DOES take some kind of minor plea, you won’t hear me say ONE BAD WORD about the guy. I’ll have complete and unshakable respect for him no matter what.
Jello333 says:
June 19, 2012 at 4:52 pm
…And believe me, if George DOES take some kind of minor plea, you won’t hear me say ONE BAD WORD about the guy. I’ll have complete and unshakable respect for him no matter what.
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I know. In the situation GZ is in he has to do what is best for him and his family. If I were him I would take any kind of plea as long as I didn’t have to go to jail.
He will always have to fear those racist and those who have an agenda, and want to kill him or cause him and his family harm, but I’d rather face my fears and deal with the agenda’s of others living outside of a jail cell rather than inside of one.
Corey can kick the perjury charge into the pot, too. The only problem is that they can’t explain GZ walking on the Murder 2 charge to the rioters.
On the day before the verdict is read, bring in the Syrian president.
Take the plea George, please take the plea. That way my boyz will get tons of money. Please take the plea George. You know that your chances of being exonerated are slim to none. Take the plea George, take the plea. That way I will get paid George, I need the bucks George.
Yeah, I forgot to mention that part. If he takes a plea, ANY plea, no matter how low-level, he can still be sued. And you’d better believe he will be… and most likely, he’d lose. Which means that Crump and his scummy friends will get half (or more) of each and every dollar George and Shellie make… for the rest of their lives! Mmmm…. that made me really, really mad just typing that.
Jello said: “no matter how low-level, he can still be sued.” and “…Crump and his scummy friends will get half (or more)…”
I realized that too after minpins comment and I hadn’t thought of that either. I was just thinking about GZ and his family. The idea of GZ taking any kind of plea and knowing he will be sued by Crump & Co makes me sick to my stomach. I honestly don’t know what he should do. But I do know that there is no way I want Crump or any of his “scummy” friends getting one red cent from GZ or anyone. Yuck. What a double edge sword.
Fact is he will get sued I don’t see him taking a plea and I don’t see Corey dropping the charges. I see this going to trial whether or not Zimm wins they will still sue.
“Which means that Crump and his scummy friends will get half (or more) of each and every dollar George and Shellie make”
No, not with proper asset protection planning.
“Or were the charges that Corey brought a foregone conclusion from the onset?”
Seems to me that it is a very small leap from there to the next question, “And was Dee Dee’s testimony intentionally scripted to support predetermined charges?”
Worthy of a repost, says it all, IMO.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/20/2703918_p2/lawyer-girl-on-phone-with-trayvon.html
…“(DeeDee) connects the dots,” said Crump, who added he plans to turn the tape over to federal investigators, but not to Sanford police.
Maybe a deposition of Osteen will “connect the dots” between Crump and BDLR with respect to preparation (scripting to support predetermined charges) for Dee Dee’s interview. BDLR has already mentioned in the interview that Crump was present for a portion of the interview. Galbraith certainly wasn’t going out on any limbs to protect the prosecutors in the bond hearing.
Thanks for posting this, sybilj.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/19/opinion/nejame-angela-corey/index.html
This is actually funny. Read Nejame’s article carefully. The impending debacle is the fault of the NRA supporting right wing Republican government for attempting to appease the African American community through improper political manipulation of the justice system. How’s that for Karma? LMAO
Oh good grief. What a tangled web…….people who always have to evaluate what they have to gain or lose before they decide how to interpret events or decide on their responses to them make me sick.
As I stated before, a race war, riot, etc, will not end well for those started it. The best advice I could possibly give them is “be careful what you wish for.” The majority of the public is sick and tired of being bullied, threatened, and intimidated. While I will agree that most of the majority won’t initiate the blow back, all they are looking for is those who will lead the charge. The majority is relatively silent, but I believe they are finally starting to wake up. And they are not in a very good mood when it comes to this.
It’s simple. You want it? Put up or shut up.
Hi “Done That”,
This would not be a “race riot”. It would be a “Thug Riot”. Why not be accurate in our language?
That is the problem. The thug culture will start the riot, but a lot of innocent people of all races will end up getting hurt. BHO, Holder, Scott, Bondi and Curry know this which is why they are so eager to throw GZ under the bus. What they don’t understand is that there are people like us who are unwilling to allow them to sacrifice GZ and SZ to appease the mob. Far better for them to grow a pair and prosecute Crump.
The Scott/Crump/Corey team just cancelled the Florida Innocence Commission. Headed by Judge Perry of Anthony Trial fame. It was to investigate wrongful Convictions.
A lot of non-innocent people of all races will be dealt with as well. The armed and innocent people who don’t start the thug riots may well be perfectly able to finish them.
And you and I live in a part of the country where we never have to worry about a race war.
To a point where if the Zimmerman clan needed a safe haven, north western MN and northern WI would be ideal. Can you imagine if the NBP came looking for him there?
An observation. All the recent news is unsettling. From Zombies to the threat of war, people are beginning to take their personal protection into their own hands. Most are unsure where the threat is coming from but they want to be ready for whatever. Why else in hard economic times are they buying expensive weapons and stockpiling ammo?
RUSSIA, IRAN, SYRIA, CHINA TO HOLD MASSIVE WAR GAME: Echoes of Bible prophecy? http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/
Gun shows are packed and they are held all over the country. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480783
http://www.gunshows-usa.com/
The Wall Street Journal June 14, 2012, 10:20 a.m. ET
U.S. Gun Sales Rise Ahead of Election, But Surge May Last http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120614-708987.html
I was thinking about that when I read it on Drudge. Isn’t there something about a Battle of Armageddon in Syria?
Check out Joel Rosenberg’s blog: http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/ You will find it all there. He writes fiction books about it as well as political commentary. DRUDGE REPORT LINKS TO ARTICLE ABOUT NEW “IMPLOSION” BOOK. It seems his fiction is so close to reality that he has even been investigated after 9/11. He uses Biblical prophecy as his outline guide and it is coming true. His credentials make him an expert.
I wonder if that report is true? I thought that they had to rebuild the Jewish temple where the Dome is first.
He is so excellent, both in his ability to think things through and in the whole way he has handled himself at very, very high levels of in consultancies over the years. The things that are happening today, and that Joel Rosenberg has been writing clearly about for ten-12 years are all exactly the things DH and I were taught to expect when we were in Bible school 40 years ago. Our instructors just did what Joel Rosenberg does–took prophetic scriptures at face value. He doesn’t go weird or act like a doofus. Rush Limbaugh has been a fan of his writing and his political comprehension of current events.
Has anyone tried to get TM’s phone from Tracy?
There must be VM with TM’s voice on it.
Traydad and Mom say no video or audio of TM exists
but Mom still insists the screaming is TM not GZ
Sybrina Fulton has very bad hearing if she thinks that the screaming is TM. Another probability is that she was coached to do that little theatrical act of hers. This is a woman who did not bother going to Sanford after he son died…. Gimme a break where that woman is concerned.
They need to be hooked up to a lie detector and then asked if that is TM. After this is over, I bet videos turn up. Just depends how much the tabloids will be willing to pay.
lie detector test. I suggest that the lying DeeDee should be hooked up to one of those things…. and then let’s see if she ends up with high blood pressure.
Her whole story is nothing but mushroom fodder.
What do you have against polygraph machines? You hook one of them up to Dee Dee, the poor little thing will be FRIED. Circuits blowing, sparks flying everywhere… total meltdown. Why would you wanna put a helpless little machine through that?
Jello you make me laugh….. I never thought about the poor machine if that individual was hooked onto it…. with all of her lies it would fry quite easily
This is why I continue to refer to Jorge Zimmerman. It should be clear that I’m not an idiot, yet I continue to get comments and e-mails telling me “his name is George.”
Is it?
How do you know?
Have you seen his birth certificate?
He wouldn’t be the first guy to anglicize his name to avoid being wrongly stereotyped, and I see no harm in espanolizing his name to avoid him being wrongly stereotyped as “white.”
I think it would be helpful – for all the reasons so eloquently stated in this article – for everyone else to do the same!
Is Jorge a Portugese name?
No, howie, it is the Spanish equivalent of George, used by all Spanish speaking peoples.
And George in Spanish is pronouced Hor-Hey. Their J has a soft sound like in Jose.
I had a Brazilian album by Jorge Ben.
I appreciate your explanation, Ded-Dad, because I wondered about your reason. Is that an attempt to create a straw man, just to add to the list of questions they don’t want asked? There’s enough real garbage going on in this situation that we do know for sure. I don’t know. I realize my reservations may just be a reflection of the fact that I don’t see around corners very well.
ADD: I should have been more clear–I meant to ask whether your point would be interpreted as an effort to create a straw man….I love all the work you do here.
Thank you for all your indefatigable effort/work/research about this.
Though mostly quiet here, I say abso- effing-lutely that this case is Waaaay bigger than Shellie or Jorge.
Interesting that over the weekend while Obama, the White Black, was at Jarrett’s daughter’s wedding in Chicago, 200 cops were pulled to protect the shindig and 35 were wounded and 6 killed, including a 16 yr old black girl who had her chest blown out….but of course, crickets from Sharpton & Co….I guess she couldn’t have been Obama’s daughter….no gravy train there.
thanks, again.
Is it?
How do you know?
Have you seen his birth certificate?
Well, his Mother’s names is GLADYS and none of the other Zimmerman siblings have Spanish names so I would think it would be a safe bet to say he was named George.
Actually he was named GEORGE MICHAEL ZIMMERMAN so he could have been named after
the popular WHAM Front man but more likely he was named after his Uncle George Mesa, Gladys’ Brother.
I know a mestizo woman from South America named Gladys.
I agree completely about what these people/forces have done and are trying to do to George. You know I’m in 100% agreement with just about every member of this site where this case is concerned. But since I’ve pointed out a few times that I’m one of your very few “token libs” here, you probably think I’ll take issue with the broader points of this article. But you’d be wrong. While I don’t agree with everything that was said here, I think it’s pretty close to the truth. And it’s NOT fun for me to admit that. You’re correct that there IS a broader battle going on in this case, and you’re correct that most of those on the wrong side of that battle are also on the left of the political spectrum. And you’re also right that a big part of the plan is to make sure that RACE and RACISM stays front and center…. there are people (and not just the obvious ones like Sharpton) who have a LOT to gain or lose, depending on how things go. Me being on the “left”, there have been times in the past when I’ve felt that it was forces on the “right” who were trying to make matters worse where race and inequality were concerned. But I’m forced to admit that now it’s just the opposite. You’re absolutely correct that it’s almost exclusively individuals and organizations of the LEFT who are using this case to further a harmful/hateful agenda.
It’s hard for me to admit that, but I’ve come to the conclusion it’s true. So, from a member of the “left”, I’d like to offer my apologies. And you better believe I’ll be here everyday helping you all fight this fight.
We of the right are fighting too. Against a corrupt Republican Governor, AG, and Special Prosecutor.. The root of this persecution lies right in Governor Scotts office. We do not care that they are *of the right*. They are wrong.
This is why the definitions of Left and Right are not accurate.
As a result of this case we can all see that Scott, Corey and Bondi are RINO. They are Republican in name only. However, this is also not accurate.
People can be Republican and left wing at the same time. That DeeDee Scuzzbucket from New York was a prime example of such a person. She was a RINO with a horn… if you know what I mean.
Conservatives are not right wing, neither are they left wing.
The left/right construct has always been phony because it is an attempt at a differentiation between Stalin and Hitler, even though both pursued the same ideology. The extreme Right are no different from the extreme Left when you see them in that new light. Their goals and aims are exactly the same. The rhetoric might be a little bit different, but that changes nothing about their real aims.
Yes, and that is where the liberal media will cast all of the blame if it hits the fan. Nejame has pointed the way. The same liberal media that was calling for a GZ lynching will cry that a corrupt NRA supporting right wing Republican administration subverted justice and conspired to persecute a Black-Hispanic Democrat for political gain.
In my life – I probably would be classed as a “Liberal”, more than “Conservative” – in the cause of justice. But each case in individual. I looked ALL OVER for the Media – to present the alternative story – and expected FOX to do it. Certainly I understood MSM would never do it. But only “TreeHouse” got it correctly! That is indeed a sad commentary our our supposed, “Free Press”. I think that is why there is so much intensity here on this subject.
My wife and I have commented of late that we would like to liberate an island to where only Treepers and other honest people can live. A Utopia from the disaster that used to be a fine country. It’s not looking good for our children unless someone takes control of this mess. I believe NOTHING that is printed/edited/published anymore, from ANYONE. and I dont like to live like that
do not bother coming to Australia. We are stuck with very similar problems caused by the same kind of whackos who are destroying the USA.
Yeah, once every few years there’s a big, interesting case that gets everyone’s attention. Where people like to play amateur detective and follow all the ins-and-outs. But while the GZ/TM has some of those aspects, it’s a lot more than that. This case feels more REAL…. more PERSONAL for some reason. This case makes me very, VERY angry.
Hi Jello – Yes, I don’t want issues to make me angry. But the injustice done to George Zimmerman and family by “Loose Cannon” Corey – who has filed false charges against George – makes me angry!!
Jello333, again you illustrate why you are a highly valued participant in this conversation in a Tree–you don’t agree “on the cheap.” When you vociferously disagree in conversations still ahead of us, it’s very likely that the excellent dialogue will be improved–as usual–
by your seriously articulated point of view. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for the acknowledgement. I as a conservative who is to the right of Atillah the Hun and Ghengis Kahn have to acknowledge that a lot of Republicans have also bought into Crump’s narrative. Aside from Scott, Bondi and Corey, RINO Romney, Santorum and Gingrich have also pronounced judgement in the case. While the Republicans can claim that they are simply trying to avert racial violence by appeasing the mob, they have actually lit the fuse by promising to convict an innocent man who God willing will be acquitted.
The most prominent Republucan hasn’t jumped on board the Lynch Zimmerman band wagon is Sarah Palin who of course is being blamed for the TM shooting.
“While the Republicans can claim that they are simply trying to avert racial violence by appeasing the mob, they have actually lit the fuse by promising to convict an innocent man who God willing will be acquitted.”
And Dershowitz (liberal Democrat) and now Nejame (Democrat) have called them out for doing exactly that. GOP falls on its own sword trying to convict White-Black-Hispanic Democrat of killing Black Thug to appease African American community and professional race baiters.
Sarah Palin… I really love me some Sarah Palin… she is the real dea.
gack, my keyboard forgot the “l”…. it is deal
Jello, your heart continues to be in the right place. I am placing you in the centre because you do not seem to fit with those leftist loonies.
Ever since I first heard of the Trayvon Martin case and particularly after Barack Obama refered to “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon”, this article, published last year, came to my mind:
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/white-house-insider-the-obama-plan-%e2%80%93-part-three/
I think that the orchestration of this very polarizing case is from the very highest level and that truth has no place in the agenda.
I’m surprised to hear that some posters have criticized this site for spending so much time on this case. The work you’ve done here is impressive and invaluable. I only hope it will not be in vain. In case the Zimmermans read this site, I’d like to assure them that I pray daily for the safety of the whole family and their attorneys, and for a favorable outcome. May God bless them and everyone working for true justice.
Irish Eyes says:
June 19, 2012 at 2:23 pm
I’m surprised to hear that some posters have criticized this site for spending so much time on this case. The work you’ve done here is impressive and invaluable.
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Hello Irish Eyes.
That’s a huge compliment. The work done on this site is very impressive indeed and they are truly deserving of your praise.
Irish Eyes, I think this is one of those times where–even if the battle is “lost” (which I don’t believe it will be)–the fact that it was well-fought will be highly informative for the next battle.
I’m reminded again that this specific battle of ideas is one that our opponents had always hoped could be struggled out in the back bedrooms, in the basement, in dark alleys–that’s the preference of their ilk. Abusers prefer darkness and closed doors. The last thing they wanted was for this stream of roiling water to break out to the surface where they have to fight in the open, where folks can see exactly what they’re doing, who they are, what their weapons are and who they are willing to destroy in order to get their way. The stream is flowing on open ground now. Everyone gets a good look. A very good look.
Conservative Lucianne has featured articles from here in her Must Reads headlines. A rare exception for blog posts, which require special permission for posting there.
Why would any real Conservative not agree with the Zimmerman project that the Treepers so valiantly have been pursuing?
Like any site, posters begin to exert ownership and entitlement. They forget that they are guests of the blogger. Rather rude and presumptuous, in my book.
I agree with the political motivations this site has outlined. However I would take a more legal approach to the endeavor. As far as being concerned about the black racists/bigots? Nah. The offer of the time or web space is elusive to many people who know this stuff. These arguements have been ongoing since the Brits bought slaves from African leaders. My time could be better spent elsewhere then fixing the lack of black educating each other on true black history and black bigotry. I tend to focus on a time in American history when after the Great Depression and during WW 2 men, women and children knew what there was to protect,and gave all they could and then some. Still some, not all blacks,focus on repression,and still want racial war and color equality like they actually lived through it to the nine. Should German Americans still pay the price for their ancestors? Should Jews cry repression throughout the world? Should Brits pay for taking lower class whites as slaves to fight Indians and build America? Should Catholics own Rome? Should Europe finally help fight this middle East/Pacific/Russian alliance? Point? There really is none, see. Those who forget history are condemed to the past. As far as I can see for some blacks the argument still is sleeping with color. We can not change that now can we? That is like swine saying they are eaten on Easter because they are pigs. On every other day they are just swine. But on Easter they are a pig. Bless the Man above cause every knee shall bow. You reap what you sow,my friend. I hope my message passes inquiry.
Yup. Your “more legal approach” is exactly the point. Ultimately, this is not about the racists/bigots. It’s about the racists/bigots only incidentally because they are serving the purposes of those who are out to destroy this nation, conceived in liberty.
Broad the stokes my friend. Broad the stokes. There is a time when one must fold in the game of gamble of being equal when you want the same curse as another man and that freedom eludes you.
Methinks that your commentary contains a bit of historic revisionism…. the Dutch were in fact the slave traders, although some British sea capatains also participated.
Shall I say there pretty kitty you know revolution ? Yesh pretty kitty does.
The work done on this site is brilliant making clear to those of us who want to understand the connections of these political marxist hacks (rich ones to boot!) in the media, government, and special interest groups based on race. The information is also carefully vetted and sourced and hopefully will have a real effect on those who read here. If the researchers here were on the law enforcement team seaching for Kyron Horman kidnapped from his school in Oregon, that child would be found already! It truly is amazing the stuff that is posted on this site..
Thank you for the kind words, the credit belongs to the community, the Treeper community of truthseekers of which I am a proud and thankful member.
The opposition to this information, and this site specifically, is not only from the left politically, but also from the right. Neither are comfortable with Sunlight, and while it is expected from the progs there is always a tinge of disappointment when the attacks are identified from those who carry flags for freedom yet rail against truthful discovery when it reflects their side in a negative light.
So it is uplifting to see messages of hope. Thank you, and many others, for valuing the priceless currency of truth, and for taking the time to comment.
Very effectively what has been done by this blog and a few others is good intel analysis exposing a Marxist / fascist deceitful “politically correct” media propaganda narrative recognized and identified for what it is. Through the work of this blog and its kindred blogs a light of truth has been shined into a dark place of disinformation ( lies ) that unethical media manufactured as a deliberate evil propaganda design serving a subversive anti second amendment agenda. We watch with satisfaction as “the enemy” subversive mainstream media Obama Media Group propagandists go scurrying for cover like cockroaches foraging in a dark room when a bright light of TRUTH gets turned on. Everyone would reasonably hope the subversive media got the message after the Dan Rather little green footballs debacle, but it appears the propagandists are slow learning halfwits about how many discerning eyes are scrutinizing and fact checking every propaganda “story” the subversive mainstream media publishes. My first post on this blog was to point out the “disinformation tag” artifice aspect of the iced tea which was really watermelon juice “misidentified” and that sort of tag is a trivial espionage tradecraft artifice but it is still quite effective at tagging and discrediting and impeaching a whole range of “authorities” and witnesses who were conspicuously and publicly on the record “tagged” by the “iced tea” disinformation artifice. It doesn’t matter if that “tag” was done deliberately by police intelligence or was an entirely “innocent” inadvertant misidentification error. For practical purposes as a tracer that “trivial” disinformation tag still serves the same usefulness and purpose as a marker. Therefore the tag still is functionally equivalent to a strategic and deliberately calculated and implemented tag. The effect of that “tag” is still exactly the same either way, whether it was done by design or purely by accident. So the subtlety of that fact should be lost on no one. Bondi and DeeDee are both tagged and so are many others. They are all impeached by the tag. It will be argued the tag is harmless error, but it isn’t harmless error at all when It goes to credibility.
Did everyone see where Jessaayyy Jackson only had 3 peeps show up for his gun shop protest?
As an aside, I LOL every time I see or think the words gun shop protest. It just cracks me up.
That’s pretty hilarious. And I think it’s telling that some people want this to be all about SYG laws and stuff. Of course since Florida has the law, there’s a good chance there’ll eventually be a SYG hearing. But George does NOT need that defense. This should just be a simple, open-and-shut case of self-defense. Curious how so many people (on the anti-GZ side) seem to ignore that fact, eh?
Pay him no mind. Why would he need a gun? He hires others who carry them to protect is jaka$$.
I am a member of a Rifle Range. It is private property. If Jesse shows up – then I will show up – and we will peacefully protest each other.
Should be safe. He fears guns like rope. He attempts
but fails.
The ONLY change anywhere my friends will be that Grand juries will be called in cases like this. Just like other States.
Grand Juries function are important as an independent fourth branch of government and are an important citizens oversight committee and safeguard of justice and a safeguard and guarantor of ethical government. There is a lot less corruption in government when citizens can report to a Grand Jury any issues which need investigation by a Grand Jury. In situations where a Grand Jury should be used but for some reason is not used, then the legality and ethics of what is done by alternative methods is suspect. This type of case is indeed the kind of case where a Grand Jury should have been used. It is a lot less likely for a Grand Jury to issue a politically motivated falsified indictment where no probable cause actually exists.
Which should be the motivation for elected officals. The people chose movies and music….. Come on ! Consitution has grands in there my loves. Demand that. It stops all the ABA filings and bulls.hite of talking about it. Demand Grands.
Agreed! If Nofigner’s G.J. had taken place – George Zimmerman would be a free man today! Would there have been “Thug Riots”. Led by whom!
Smoochies.
The work here is irrefutable. jack a$$es thanks for caring so much. Smooch. Logic wins again.
Drastik is getting legal after this , give me homework lovies.
Treepies ………..lovies
…. Thanks for the welcome. Perhaps I may stay on the island
New Black Panthers On Trayvon Martin Case: “We Will Not Sit Back Passively Like Jews And Go To The Gas Chambers”…
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/18/new-black-panthers-on-trayvon-martin-case-we-will-not-sit-back-passively-like-jews-and-go-to-the-gas-chambers/
Major.Nutjob
Ben Crump: “We were certain the jury would have awarded a 40 million dollar verdict…”
http://www.greeklaw.com/news_boot_camp_death.aspx
Does that mean that settling for $2.4 million was malpractice?
Crump should be disbarred and jailed, Bonaparte fired, Corey disbarred and jailed. I want some arrests!
Absolutely! Me too, Howie. George being acquitted (or the case thrown out) is first and foremost. But after that, several other things need to happen: Some lawyers need to be disbarred; a few individuals need to go to jail; many media people need to be fired; certain famous race-baiters need to be publicly humiliated; and certain politicians need to be censured. And the whole lot of them need to be sued for every penny they have. And the money from those lawsuits needs to go right into the pockets of George and his family…. plus part of it to the other “Justice for Trayvon” beating victims around the country.
I’m not sure if this has already been posted somewhere. Zimmerman’s Lawsuit Against Al Sharpton, NBC, and the Martin Family Attorneys (I hope this isn’t wishful thinking. This article seems to be speculation but it is a start.)
http://www.examiner.com/article/zimmerman-s-lawsuit-against-al-sharpton-nbc-and-the-martin-family-attorneys
Oh very cool. Thanks…. I’m bookmarking that to read later.
It will take a legion of lawyers to go after them all.
You might be looking at 9 figures in total lawsuits. A legion will be at his disposal!
And then you’ve got people like me, who’ve had some legal training (2 years of law-school, never finished…. LONG story!) who would be THRILLED to help in whatever minor way we can (for ZERO compensation, of course). George will have so many offers of help that he’ll be turning people away in droves.
As far as I’m concerned, you can post as much as you want about GZ. He NEEDS all the help he can get and the Treehouse comes up with info NOBODY else does! Keep it up!!
I am profoundly moved and encouraged by this The Last Refuge article, and feel honored to have been quoted so extensively.
TLR is doing for George Zimmerman what Sispey Street Irregulars have done for Fast and Furious. Treepers are the blogosphere and internet media’s vanguard in in-depth analysis, reporting, and activism on behalf of George and Justice.
One dimension that impresses my most is treepers’ steely commitment to making sure that George does not turn into the Duke LaCrosse Team. One of the most honest discussion about race in the nation is taking place among the treepers here.
We are exposing the rank racial injustices within society among those who are most enlightened – Hispanics, African Americans, and Anglos talking with honesty and deep understanding of the power of ethnic and Catholic and Evangelical cultures and a truly multi-racial and multi-ethnic society based on mutual respect, truth, and impartial justice.
Most moving to me have been the voices of Hispanics and African American conservatives on Twitter who check out #MInorityConservative. These Hispanics and African Americans understand in their bones the evil that is being pepetrated by the racial and ethnic exploiters and dividers. God bless them and all treepers mightily.
To Admin. let me apologize for the comments after smoochies under my username. I personally did not make those. My fault though I left open access by saving email on my tablet and did not close down before I allowed someone to use it. I have dealt with the scum bag who had to hide behind my user name to make comments that would never come from me personally! I was shocked when I checked my email and saw the follow up! Will not happen again!