The issue of illegal aliens being detained while awaiting their transport out of the country is destined to eventually hit the Supreme Court.
Several courts of appeal have split on the issue of whether illegal aliens can be detained during processing out of the country with some saying yes and some saying, no. The Nineth Circuit Court of Appeals weighed in today and also said no, with a rather goofy and odd reason in their opinion. [Court Ruling Here]
The 9th CCA doesn’t like the term “illegal alien” so they use the politically correct term, “unadmitted aliens” to describe non-Americans who are in the country illegally. Technically, the entire population of planet Earth is “unadmitted” to the United States, so far. However, as Orwell noted twisting the jargon makes it easier to violate common law. I digress.
According to the 9th CCA because no other President has attempted to round up the tens of millions of illegal aliens, it must mean that detaining tens of millions of illegal aliens, while the govt processes them out, is unlawful. In essence, it hasn’t been done, therefore it must be against the law.
[Page 5] …”That no Administration has ever found a duty mandatorily to detain unadmitted aliens present in the interior of the country is strong evidence that [such duty] does not exist.”….
Because Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden never detained illegal aliens, the Ninth CCA uses their failure to protect the nation as an affirmation that protecting the nation is not the goal of immigration law.
This is how far away from commonsense we have traveled in this bastardized lawfare judicial system.
(VIA POLITICO) – ““The government’s change in policy has resulted in detained aliens filing thousands of habeas petitions in federal courts across the country, seeking bond hearings and possible release from detention,” Judge Daniel Bress, a Trump appointee, wrote for the majority. “The implication of the government’s position is that Congress in 1996 made a major change to the immigration laws by subjecting millions of unadmitted aliens present in the United States to mandatory detention, but that this change then went unnoticed and unheeded, with the Executive Branch for the next three decades … We accordingly do not think that Congress in 1996 made such a large-scale change to our established system of immigration detention in the way that the government now contends.” (more)
And they paid good money to go to Law School?
A lot of money to be trained in how to derive nonsensical pretzel logic out of plain law.
Lest we forget, lawfare runs parallel to the philosophy within Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.
So that we won’t forget…
‘Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals’ by Saul D. Alinsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
Rule number 8 :
Keep the pressure on.
Verbal manipulation. However, my teens could have done much better.
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Hell yes, someone else knows what the B.A.R. stands for!
B.A.R. is the acronym however the organization has nothing to do with the legal profession.
https://bar-registrars.org/about-us
Possibly not “good” money but most probably someone else’s money…….
The Kamala school of BaffleGab.
We gag on gnats and swallow Kamels. (SP)
And “BaffleGab” is far superior to “Word Salad”….!
I like that new word!
I cannot take credit for it 😉
It’s a new word only in our context here. It’s almost as old as I am! For the record, the OED’s earliest evidence for bafflegab is from 1952, in the Daily Telegraph (London).
edit p.s. — I seem to recall seeing it in a Heinlein book. It’s something Jubal Harshaw might have used.
My all-time favorite author!
The better question might be, who is getting paid good money to teach dummies in law school?
Those who can’t do anything in the real world, ‘teach’.? Not intending to offend our dedicated Treeper Educators…
Teaching was a legit way to get out of the draft in my day. As long as I was in tech school I had a 2-S draft status, when I graduated I automatically became 1-A. Off to boot camp I went! No one would hire a High School grad or young man that was 1-A. They all said come back after the military and we’ll talk. Seemed like the popular course then was Liberal Arts in collage!
I was in High School in the 60’s and I recall the teachers went to work in the steel mills during summer break to make ends meet. Steel mills paid real well!
CORRECTION: their handlers paid good money to get them on the court.
and it was clearly worth it.
Regardless of how much $ were spent to attend college, since the mid sixties, no one was taught a thing other than socialism. Zip, nada.
say we don’t know what an unadmitted alien is and continue and we dont; acknowledge the term. We are rounding up criminals aliens, that need to be in prison. Deport them the same day, which would speed up the process.
They are illegal aliens, let’s call them that please. 😎
And have no constitutional protections
Excellent question! This begs the question what is admitted alien? Is there such a thing? Perhaps the Supreme Corrupt Court can also rule on how many angels are there on the head of a pin?
This phrase unadmitted alien is nonsense.
They would first have to define Angel.
Then define a pin. Then we can define pinhead! LOL I’ve read quite a bit on Angels, and to me they are kinda special. When I get a gut feeling, that’s my key an Angel is near! Same with a scent or hear something no one else does.
The 9th Circus has made its decision. Now let them enforce it.
It’s well past time Trump disregarded these clowns and told them to suck it.
The President of the United States takes an oath of office:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
When some clown in a black robe intentionally violates the Constitution, the President is constitutionally obliged to ignore, or even countermand that judicial clown.
I agree-it is well past time for President Trump to go to war against the corrupt clown car judiciary.
Yes, but such a stance would require courage, something even Trump at times fails to display.
President Trump is the most courageous president of my lifetime (66 years).
Our courageous president has survived multiple assassination attempts.
He is threatened (publicly) with assassination every single day by foreign and domestic enemies.
President Trump receives hateful, deranged vitriol around the clock every single day.
He has endured the fake Russia hoax, impeachments based on fake evidence, phony and corrupt lawfare that was orchestrated to bankrupt and imprison him and his family, and a stolen election.
There’s not one single vile epithet in the English language that hasn’t been publicly spewed at him.
And through all of that abuse-more abuse than any president in history has had to endure-President Trump has endured and overcome as he brings We The People a winning streak like no other President since Washington.
President Trump is the very embodiment of courage under fire. We are truly blessed by Almighty God to be able to live at such a time as this.
💯🎯💯🎯💯❤️🇺🇸🦅
It appears PDJT, fears the CIA, and he knows his boundaries.
That was a key takeaway from the Fauci hearing yesterday.
Back to the root cause, who really runs our country?
That is not what I have seen in the past.
several presidents deported.
Problem is the prior Presidents to President Trump let thousands of murderers, rapist and people with no means of support in.
Now they are being sent home. Some chose to take the deal and free flight back home with the possibility to come back someday.
He took a bullet for us.
And lived to tell about it.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
👍 👍👍👍👍👍
People swear to statements they don’t understand.
I’d actually advocate for a “test” of these people about the Constitution.
Can’t get 65% of the questions correct, you can’t get the office.
Possibly that % should be higher.
A lot of people have been saying this for a while now, but it appears that Trump does not have the nerve to do this. They are just waiting him out till he leaves office. I think his MAGA base is getting tired.
Patience Grasshopper.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
So, if we are unable to detain; deport immediately.
Exactly, why is the default to be released into the country while awaiting a hearing, why not be immediately kicked out of the country and wait for a hearing?
Yes. Keep planes ready at airports across the country. Load them on and fly them out.
Load ‘em 🆙
Fly ‘em out! ✈️
Goodbye 👋🏾
RAWHIDE!
yes load them on the plane when it is full take them to gitmo or out of our country.
So according to these legal wizards, if a law is deliberately not enforced, then it ceases to become a law. Where can I find that provision in our Constitution?
Deliberately not enforced to the delight of Chamber of Commerce
Ig nore.
Nice ruling you made there ‘judge.’ Now try to en force it.
Biden ALWAYS ignored USSC rulings .
B. I. N. G. O.
Was his name-o
Ike deported millions after the War. He must have detained them to make deportation possible.
Correct.
I like Ike.
Yes he did. Operation Wetback, no kidding, in 1954.
“The Largest Mass Deportation in American History” : As many as 1.3 million people may have been swept up in the Eisenhower-era campaign called ‘Operation Wetback.’
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Operation-Wetback
Evidently the 9th CCA is historically illiterate/ignorant.
Their record is abysmal. Between 2000 and 2010, the US Supreme Court reversed 148 out of 162 decisions. 81% reversal rate.
https://hls.harvard.edu/today/when-the-nine-overrule-the-ninth-oscannlain-ponders-10-years-of-reversals/
Eisenhower. The court’s poor knowledge of history out there for all to see.
Operation wetback was a good operation.
Operation Wetback
Starting in the 1950s, the Border Patrol began conducting operations using militarized tactics to apprehend undocumented immigrants.
Mexican immigrants sprawled on the floor of a border patrol jail cell as they await deportation.
”That no Administration has ever found a duty mandatorily to detain unadmitted aliens present in the interior of the country is strong evidence that [such duty] does not exist.”… <NO!>
A court of KBJs.
Snatch the illegals right off the street, take them to the nearest military base, load the planes with them and ship them off to Iran.
This process will bypass any and all detention.
Get these illegals out of our Fricken country, as we can not even put a price tag on the death and damage they have caused as it has become massive.
Almost forgot, place the judges from the 9th circuit on that plane to Iran to supervise the journey, one way of course!
Just leave some Marines guarding them on the bases with general orders to keep things under control while the illegal aliens are detained pending deportation. 😉
These illegals need to be declared an “INVADING MILITARY FORCE” deal with them accordingly!
Shooting invaders would be so much simpler too, with no repeat offenders.
You see the big picture 🎯🎯
Because no other president admitted some 20 million illegals like Biden,
according to the same reasoning this court should have decided these must all be sent home.
It seems to me we should respect judges more so they should be on the first plane.
We need homeless camps in their neighorhoods.
And auto deductions from their bank accounts to pay for these illegals.
Since everything communist is in vogue now, deductions should be based on their income and assets. That goes for everyone who espouses no borders and who believe that illegals deserve the rights and protections and privileges of US citizens. If they don’t show actual financial support and lots of it, their words and actions are worthless hyperbole.
Exactly what tools are in the Constitution to deal with a judicial system that no longer bides by the rule of law and the Constitutional Oath they all took ?
There has to be something because these illegal invaders have broken laws and so have the shysters who squat on a bench.
As uneducated as some of us are the 14th amendment is pretty damn clear and as clear as the 2nd amendment and the 4th amendment yet DC and the judicial all the way to the SC have broken their Oaths and put foreign invaders above the law and ALL of the American people and our safety.
FTA
The 2A is the solution. We’re just still too comfortable with how things are, contrary to any assertions otherwise.
Not much….because the Constitution only established the Supreme Court, and NONE of the lower Courts.
“The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit is the nation’s largest federal appellate court, headquartered in San Francisco, California.”
Why would anyone expect sanity coming out of San Fran-sicko?
They don’t call it the Ninth Circus for nothing.
LMAO “unadmitted aliens” = Martian who fails to disclose he’s from Mars.
They are in denial, like an alcoholic or addict.
I am not a lawyer but I think this is just stupid reasoning, or, lack of reasoning.
It’s called “word salad”.
They make up a fantasy rationale, and paint it with big words to make it sound like it has legal meaning.
Deliberate I say.
The unelected Judiciary has been coopted by rabid ideologues who see themselves not as a “Co-Equal” branch, but as Imperial Rulers.
And their weapon of choice is the perversion of language and the application of it as suits their intent.
Orwell described this perversion of language in several works, especially in 1984.
Philosopher kings/queens. But… No Kings/Queens?
Iyf you were a lawyer, you would not understand any of this, but still agree with it.
Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback deported 1.3 million illegals who were held until deportation.
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They entered illegally. That’s a crime. Go to jail. Go directly to jail.
Just pick them up, immediately drive to the nearest border and throw them over the fence.
Can I interest you in a trebouchet?
I guess the new history books don’t mention Operation Wetback.
The new history books are titled, Johnny has 2 dads.
Nowhere in the history of the US government did we, the American citizen, ever expect to witness a rogue presidency(Biden) open our borders for 4 yrs and allow over 15 million illegal aliens to freely come in without lawful permission AND get free housing, medical, money and commit any crime without doing the time. The 9thCCA is corrupt.
But . prior administrations did detain illegals before the script was officially flipped..before Obama realized how successful the EU/NWO was at displacing their native population with foreign minded low IQ, anti-patriotic nomads. dont you remember? The cages were already built before Trump got there.
cmon man
I mentioned this too, sorry, I didn’t see your post first RC.
The Truth is worth repeating
One would think that in order to be called a judge, it requires
that person to exhibit sound and reasoned judgement.
Clearly that has not been the case here.
Now you just have to be willing to be ultra corrupt and wear a black robe. Wearing the robe is the harder of the two for these people to accept.
“This is how far away from commonsense we have traveled in this bastardized lawfare judicial system.”
Period. And thank you, Sundance.
So the White House occupier of 2020-2024 never did anything about fraud, waste, abuse, rape, murderers, etc. so it’s all good, no need to enforce anything.
It’s a fact that Obama and Biden put illegal kids in chain link enclosures.
So the difference is because President Trump’s going to deport them instead of allow them in?
Don’t detain them. Put them immediately on a plane and send them to some third world country.
Liberal judges on appeals courts are kicking the can down the road to SCOTUS. The liberal judges don’t want to have to explain themselves at liberal cocktail parties.
The ninth circus has released the clowns again.
Once Trump is out of office, or a Democrat ever wins and they take back the house and Senate, it will be worse than Obama/covid. The Roman Martyrology is a daily reminder of how things can be for 300 years and beyond. Nothing is ever settled. Evil will always exist. And Democrats, unlike Republicans, never give up.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2026/07/how-the-1964-civil-rights-act-eviscerated-the-american-constitution/
Good article about the Civil Rights Act and the judiciary
That act is basically a second parallel Constitution.
So no other President ever created a savings account for new born children.
Is that illegal too?
That which is not expressly prohibited is allowed. The 9th can, will, pound sand.
“This is how far away from commonsense we have traveled in this bastardized lawfare judicial system.”
The judicial branch of the government is the most corrupt branch of the government.
All the Federal Courts are creations of Congress, and nominally overseen by the Supreme Court.
That they are at least as corrupt as Congress given that all the judges are appointed by the Executive with the advice and consent of Congress should not be that surprising.
This will end up being another golden opportunity for Chief Justice Roberts and his Supreme Court to shine.
Or not.
Norm Eisen strikes again.?
They expose their ridiculousness merely by their inability to properly name illegal aliens as “illegal aliens,” per federal statute.
After the Barbara decision, a loss on this issue at the SC would put us much closer to CW 2.0.
Yesterday we heard all about the Fauci cabal in their quest to corner President Trump and leave him no options during the [non]pandemic.
All the hysteria and melodrama and legal finagling we’ve seen over the last 18 months over “due process” for illegal aliens has been to stop or slow the deportation efforts.
Insisting on due process but objecting to detaining them amounts to free release into the interior, never to be seen again. It’s another effort to corner President Trump so that he cannot fulfill this obligation/campaign promise/national security necessity.
Which is it? I would prefer immediate deportations on a Herculean scale.
“That no Administration has ever found a duty mandatorily to detain …”
Did previous administrations even look? If you don’t look, you can’t find.
Did they look and find they had an elective option to detain?
The most an honest court could say is that previous administrations didn’t detain. But sadly we don’t have honest courts.
Criminal invaders.
Hey judges do you know the laws in our country?
Are you unwilling to uphold those laws?
Obviously not.
Forcing us, citizens, to suffer financially from supporting them, or worse they assault, rape and kill us…not important to you?
The judge is a moron just one step above and imbecile. I wonder if he can feed himself?
Was it
Obummer,Obozo, No, it was Obama who detained illegal aliens before deporting them.President Obama’s administration detained many illegal immigrants before deporting them, with deportations and detentions reaching record levels during his time in office. The administration’s policies often led to the detention of individuals who had committed minor infractions or had no criminal record at all.
“The administration has promised to make the detention system more humane, and more selectively target the most serious criminals.” Even PBS admitted that.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/lost-in-detention/
That was the same administration that counted a turnaway at a border crossing/Point of Entry as a “deportation”.
The Democrats have an illegal alien problem that they hadn’t anticipated and dunno what to do about!
During the Biden years they invited tens of millions of “undocumenteds,” as the Left euphemistically calls them, into the U.S. figuring once they got them here and dependent on the government dole, they’d all fall in lockstep and vote for Democrats.
But that’s not what’s happening in the cities…they’re voting for Democratic Socialists instead, (Marxists to the uninformed)! And that threatens to pull the already far-left establishment Dems so far left that it’s scaring the hell out of them!
And with good reason, because even Schumer and Pelosi know America isn’t ready for the second coming of the Bolsheviks, repackaged as “Democratic Socialists!”
As the midterms approach, the theme song from the old COPS tv series may be ringing their ears, “Bad boys, bad boys, wha’cha gonna do?”
And they haven’t a clue what to do!
The government’s change in policy has resulted in detained aliens filing thousands of habeas petitions in federal courts across the country, seeking bond hearings and possible release from detention,” Judge Daniel Bress, a Trump appointee, wrote for the majority.
Uhm, no. Some NGO/Foreign funded entity filed the petitions on behalf of the illegal invaders.
There has never been a previous President that has intentionally flooded the country with 20 + million 100% unvetted 3rd world prehistoric barbarians over their 4 year term either .
THOMAS JEFFERSON HAD IT CORRECT – ” “One single object… [will merit] the endless gratitude of the society: that of restraining the judges from usurping legislation.” (Letter to Edward Livingston, March 25, 1825) ”
http://www.robgagnon.net/JeffersonOnJudicialTyranny.htm
Here is what the Democrats want:
Spain tightens border to stop thousands of migrants from entering
Spain is finished.
Migrants met by Spanish military as they swim to north African enclave Ceuta
To little to late.
Newsmax just said Spain declared a national emergency.
USSC made it crystal clear that encouraging illegal immigration is a felony , helping illegal aliens to enter the country is a felony and funding a single illegal alien is a felony let alone funding an ongoing invasion over 4 years yet nobody even considers attempting to hold the previous administration accountable for this .
Infuriating .
I’LL buy the rope!
Why are people with no sound judgement allowed to remain judges?
Term limits for ALL government employees regardless of position!
Out here in commiefornia we call it the “Ninth Circus”. I never went to law school but I could make better decisions than these clowns.
The word is off tilt … I know that sounds a bit like Hank Johnson, but something is off. I feel like I’ve lost my queue card as I am unable to relate to this new world. I pray and I am thankful that I am old.