Telegram founder Pavel Durov is one voice who has been consistent in his message about how western countries have become increasingly authoritarian in their efforts to retain power and control. Durov is the real deal; the John Galt within the mechanisms of digital communication.
The principle under attack is freedom, and the recent examples of internet and social media control via age verification are steps within this process. Durov notes these moments are like the early stages of the Titanic after hitting the iceberg, where people aboard the ship did not quite realize the scope of the danger around them.
Take the time to listen to what Durov shares with specific examples and citations to back up his warning. Well worth the time. Pavel Durov shares how Telegram emerged from a commitment to free expression and why defending digital freedom is central to protecting human rights today.
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Laughable that some people believe Western gov’ts care about protecting children and buy that justification to invade privacy.
Especially in Starmer’s UK. The UK has specific policies that encourage the rape and murder of particularly, White female girls.
The USA would be right there if not for President Trump.
Either that or we’d realize why the Founders enshrined the 2nd Amendment into the US Constitution.
Many of us, especially veterans that served in foreign countries, realize fully and are extremely thankful to our Founding Fathers governing visions and the strength to put it into a Constitution. Most of us also realize who represents the risks to our freedoms, recognizes the patterns of conflict drumbeats and the heckling that tests our patience and desire for quiet, peaceful homes. Barack Hussein Obama, or whatever his real name is, has done more to upset America’s balance of orderly government, reduction of war and conflict, intelligent policies and good financial management than at any other time in my life. Only POTUS Trump has delivered true improvements to and for the United States of America! Since the Boomer generation has consumed the most, lived the most free, but voted for and tolerated the most destruction of our government; we should be prepared to finish the task at hand and make America the strongest ever and most secure ever for our kids and grandkids!
3 more years. Then what?
2.5. At Best.
And if the midterms are lost?
7 months (January 20, 2027) and decreasing daily.
Totally depends on who you and your friends vote for!
Any Democrat = boots on ground wars, funding other wars, giving away the weapons of war, no oil, back to windmills, no AI, more immigrants, skyrocketing taxes, much more politics, much more sleeze and corruption.
Any Republican = None of that mentioned above.
No. We aren’t giving up guns. Illegals will struggle in my neighborhood.
I’m in an area where people move in having run from northeastern or west coast loonies who have cemented their hold on lawmaking. People are now, at least in my neck of the woods, generally awake.
Canada is currently pushing hard to, “Protect”, the children. They’re issuing warnings that they will not back down on their authority. .
In th US you can still look up how many member there are of the local police and sherrifs department.
A swat team fro either will likely number 20 members.
Establish a phone tree with trusted neighbors and friends.
Then you only have to call/ text two a message like “they’re here.”
Six calls gets 128 responders. Tell them no AK/ARs just lever 30-30s that will frighten the H out of the Swats.
A typical local dept may be as few as 21 or up to several hundred.
The US military has lots of civilians but less than 1 million men under arms and most are not in CONUS.
We do truly outnumber them.
Dont ever forget that.
Reminds me of Pelosi always using children as props and the cause for “concern”. Now she declares that her remaining time in congress she will fight for the “children”, meaning transgender children. These people are very sick and demon possessed.
As long as we understand some children are more equal than others.
Yes, very much like all other justice these days.
See my comment below dear Betsy.
The children of William and Catherine among them.
I think the story of the violent overthrow and murder of the Tsar and his family are a cautionary tale for current monarchs.
It goes back much farther than that…
https://www.hrp.org.uk/tower-of-london/history-and-stories/the-princes-in-the-tower/
“The Princes, sons of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville, were born during the intense turmoil of the Wars of the Roses. On Edward’s death in 1483, his brother the Duke of Gloucester (later Richard III) became Lord Protector of Edward’s son and heir, the 12-year-old Edward V. The Duke immediately placed Edward in the Tower of London, closely followed by his 9-year-old brother Richard, for ‘their protection’.”
When one hears “for your protection”…be afraid, be very afraid.
The historical perspective is an important one Aggiegirl. Thank you for adding additional history.
If nothing else the bloody Bolshevik Revolution is one that is well known and not that long ago.
It goes much further back than that as well. ” Such is the nature of the tyrant, when he first appears, he is a protector. ” Plato.
Answered, dear sis…
It’s my job to keep mine more equal.
The dumbed-down version of Animal Farm?
The old sayin, “the shortest way to someone’s money (or anything else) is through their kids”
I follow a family on instagram from the UK and the mother is “thrilled” about Starmer’s latest proclamation. They have two young girls who they feel will be protected by this mandate. I want to shake them and yell WAKE UP!
She’ll never see the forest through the trees. It is what it is.
That woman has become a drone; she’s not likely to change, IMO.
How about being a parent & not giving your kids access to connected devices?
I did this with my own kids when the internet 1st became a thing. There was absolutely no way in hades that I was giving them access to all manner of dangerous & predatory things. None. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
She was born and raised and educated as a Subject.
Up to the Mellineals and Gen Z we were all raised as Citizens
Now the schools teach the Constitution Grants you Your Rights from ghe Government.
Enough said.
When those who traffic children and do other sex crimes against children can escape the laws, then you know the laws against such things are merely a facade hiding something else just as EVIL.
Critical thinking has become a lifesaving, freedom saving, necessary skill.
Get the children’s book The Terrible Things and read it to your children. Discuss it with them. It has applications for what Pavel Durov is warning about.
If they really cared about that, how then did they allow 450,000 children to disappear into the U.S. immigration cartel they created?
” For the children” nonsense has been with us for decades, George Carlin said it best “f__k the children” . Not because he wanted to hurt a child but he understood how big brother would us this focus group tested phrase to manipulate the public. He was correct.
We in the USA are resisting but the EU is falling far down the rabbit hole of DEI word police. See the UK serious jail time for speaking truth against the state narrative, like the Islamo-Goon invasions and rape gangs.
It’s way past time to poke out the 5-Eyes.
We in the civilized world (which shrinks daily) were led, pied piper-like, in a soporific state down that rabbit hole a long time ago, Stan. Mistress Clinton, servant of Baal, told us the tools her master was using to appeal to our natural protective nature of the sacrifices she/they were offering up. “It takes a village” the most evil woman on this planet intoned. That “village” I think is the 5 Eyes, though no one then could know it. Children were always going to be the bait.
But since, we have been awakened to find ourselves in an alien world. Who of sane mind and spiritual awareness doesn’t feel dreadful unease these days when in the presence of such evil…
So we must find a way out of that hole; to fight as has been said, not for what is in front of us, but for what is behind us.
Because for us, it truly is for our children and theirs who will come after us.
May God in His heaven give us the resolve, the strength, and the courage to do so 🙏🏻
No doubt, Hitlery is wicked to the bone, Baal’ would be so proud.
MAGA! …with God the only way.
Nancy Piglosi was always using that phrase : for the children………
With Bill “the slut” Clinton, was more than happy to use children at every step.
And Barney Franks sister, when she was on TV for the Dimms.
Whenever she said ‘protect the children’ i always thiught ‘from your brother.’
And now they’ve swapped ‘for the children’ with ” for safety”. I’ll take freedom over safety every time. I don’t need big gov dictating how anyone takes care of their children.
The Second Amendment is the US lifeboat.
Some here underestimate the power of this.
If I remember lightly Mr Durov was arrested by the little French dwarf, so that says a lot.
The largest standing army on the planet via the 2nd Amendment as the Founders intended. The ultimate check on runaway, Un-Constitutinal, government.
If we’re brave enough to use it, if and when necessary.
God first! Pray and fast!
Only need 1% to not stand by and do nothing.
As a Scots born Canadian that was ambivalent about your 2nd amendment who “ carried a gun” for over thirty years” in my career.
The emergence of President Trump and to a lesser but possibly as significant Elon Musk.
I am now a massive supporter of your 2nd.
💪😎
Right on!
Our second amendment is disappearing quickly. It will not be a lifeboat if the Dems are in charge in DC as they are in CO.
This presumes acquiescence. 2A is absolute for most I know.
Yup. 2A doesn’t grant any right to bear arms. It says the government can’t take that right away. It’s a God given right and absolute.
In colorado, should one shoot someone trying to break into your home or already in your home, you will be arrested. You will spend some time in jail for self defense.
I think it was someone here on CTH that said, “If I’m there, it isn’t a gun free zone.” This is probably what it all will come to.
The FBI, the Police, and the sNews Media lie about who those in opposition to the status quo or new restrictive policies really are making them easy targets for criticism and apathy.
In Waco, Texas, David Koresh visited town frequently to buy supplies, and thus could easily have been arrested for the charges they accused him of; sex with minors, and polygamy. “Law” enforcement made no moves until they put out that story, and then, to make the story brief, Janet Reno the AG of the US oversaw the BAT&F raid of the Branch Davidian compound.
The real motivation for the raid was they had heard that the Davidians were making illegal firearms. Secondly, Justice was pondering the usefulness of an agency whose moonshining targets, had all but disappeared. Their existence was threatened, and like all bureaucracies, they fight to maintain their existence.
When agents attempted to break into the house via upstairs windows, “breaking and entering”, and the Davidians shot and killed the perp, I mean agent.
The point of all this ramble is that those who are there “to serve and protect” will murder you in your own home if you oppose the overreach of gubmint. All they have to do is unjustly label you a pedophile, and the people will cheer as feds take you out.
Survivors or Waco refuted the claims and accusations of the Feds, but their stories didn’t make sNews!
Same thing at Ruby Ridge.
Tim McVeigh & OK City bombing was retaliation against both incidents.
SPLC “informant” made contact with McVeigh November 1993. One year and five months before OKC.
https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/legacy/news/featurex/2007/07/FBI_12.21.95.pdf
Waco & Ruby Ridge were travesties of justice even if some wacky cult was involved. OK City bombing (I refuse to glorify the perpetrator) was a heinous act done by a deranged person that thought they were striking back at government by killing innocent people. The building had a daycare onsite where children were included in the dead. FIFTEEN children from the daycare died as well as FOUR others in other parts of the building. How many people were just visiting, working as janitors, paper pushers, etc.?
maybe….some of them thinking “tools” of 2nd amendment are for chasing neighbor’s racoons……saad…
Think
“Battle of Athens TN,1946.”
Now go look it up. There is even a movie about it availanle knline.
At first it’s very slow. Then it’s all at once.
<At first it’s very slow. Then it’s all at once.>
Kinda like:
I didn’t understand why the ball was heading for my head…
Then it hit me 🙂
Isn’t it ironic that this message is coming from someone who was born in the USSR?
… the other bit of irony can be found in the upper left hand corner of the video clip … this was recorded at the Oslo Freedom Forum …. inside the EU.
A man who spent his early years in the waning days of the Soviet system should be listened to. He knows from experience what our modern globalist commies are trying to pull.
In 10 years we may laugh when we say Russians have more freedoms then the western Countries.
And born in ‘1984’!
…..saaadly…if you do not know who is your real enemy…you never ever will win war… and it is going on here least since Nov.1963…if not since 1913…is VSGPDJT just find out……???
“Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first strike down. They know its power.
Thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers, founded in injustice and wrong, are sure to tremble, if men are allowed to reason of righteousness, temperance, and of a judgment to come in their presence.”
Frederick Douglass
Die gedanken sind immer frei…until they aren’t. Thought police is ripe in leftist ideaology, they promote group think.
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
Saving that quote for sure. Thank you Ma’am!
One that has never been more worth remembering than now I think, Jimbo. You’re welcome…
We are no better in this regard, just slower to implement.
The urge to control comes from all directions, since “they” are really two sides of the same coin.
It’s nothing new, either. I’m so old I remember when Reagan’s Transportation Department led the charge for a national drinking age of 21 in 1984 by tying it to DoT funding.
That irked me because I had friends who served. Some were drafted into the military at 18.
They were old enough to fight and die but not to legally drink. That was/is the epitome of hypocrisy.
And for a time — 18 year olds could not vote.
I grew up a short drive from West Virginia, so…
Geographical serendipity p-squared.
There is an overlooked/masked time in fairly recent history when the world witnessed the depraved reaction of the money changers when the emergence of truth posed an existential threat to their ancient designs.
Men like William Tyndall began to translate God’s word into the languages of the gloablists’ empire. A man named Gutenberg had provided for a free press across Europe and beyond, and the truth began to reach all men.
The reaction was swift and brutal from all powers – kings and bishops alike. The Inquisitions began.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Key take away, we are already there.
Correct.
Another Save. TY. Hillary was the queen of “for the children.” So shallow.
Unfortunately we are already there. And the plan has been in place for decades.
Industrial-sized woodchippers for all those who harm children. Those cretins can not be rehabilitated.
Concepts like “hate speech”… and
The EU doesn’t protect any child from rape and murder by their imported Islam men. Not the UK, not France, not Germany, not Italy cares one bit for the children of the citizens.
I was watching trooping of the color in Britain and thought the Princess of Wales was upset by some anti monarchists along the carriage route who no doubt would affect the future of her and her children.
Does she consider there are people who have been welcomed into her country who would groom and attack her daughter and stab her sons without compunction?
I saw her expression as well, Lorraine. And the other photographs.
The Royal Family live in a cotton wool world, protected from the one their “subjects” by their lowly nature are condemned to live in. Increasingly they have become an anachronism.
A “Church of England” bishop who was the spiritual advisor to the late Queen publicly discussed that he believes, according to his conversations with William, that he (William) is “uncomfortable” with the role he will eventually have to take as Head of the CoE.
And is it no wonder with an Islamist father who openly declares his devotion for the murderous cult of Islam?
In facf, the heir to the throne has public stated, “All faiths can learn from Islam”.
” ALL”…
Willing and apostate.
Hoping they have a secure room in Buck House…in the event the day comes when they all to clearly understand.
Men are KNOWN by how they allow children to be treated.
Everyone should pass along this article. Watching “our” pathetic Senate squirm around in order to avoid the will of the people re 702 shows how much “our betters” respect our privacy, and thus free speech rights.
Tim Burchett is correct. There should be a WARRANT necessary for 702
Then 702 & the FISA court need not exist. A warrant can be issued by any A3 court.
Spectre / Deep Dream
People ran away from European countries to get to the US. The US rich are running away from US places like Commiefornia and New Dork. The places to run to are getting fewer and fewer. Since evil ones can’t get where they want thru honest debate and argument, they are getting there as quick as possible with fraudulent elections like in your face Commiefornia (LA mayor race). And making it illegal to question anything.
I have always believed that when a Democrat says “it’s for the children”, hang onto your wallet and hang onto your freedom.
I have realize that the Democrat party is a member of a globalist totalitarian movement, created for elitist control of everything. I don’t know when they morphed into this, but it is excellerating.
My family and I had that conversation, the one about ‘its for the children’, many, many years ago…late 1970’s…
You are so right! This is not new!
Most recently we only have to look at what Obiden’s admin created to control the entire nation during COVID!
We cannot let this happen again!!
Both Parties. Two sides of the same coin. Politicians are bought and sold. Neither Party machine has control of the Deep State and its central role in those who are financing the World Order. It is an eternal battle between good and existential evil. Satan lost at the cross yet he carries on.
God’s hand shaped our nation’s founding – if we can keep it. Trump broke through – he opened the door again. He has given us the chance to return to the Republic. The Party machines we know today will not, cannot, remain the same. Men like Thune must be disgraced and exposed for the traitors they are.
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My first thoughts go to you Sundance and all that you and your various people have had to do to give us the freedoms we have here. Few newbies probably don’t know the struggle you’ve had to face and overcome. My second thoughts, which seems always to go, is to the gatekeepers of congress. They hold the keys to law and though many will say my wors are a broken record, it is where, in my opinion, the damage is allowed and the need to fix comes into play. Republicans and democrats need to be replaced with those who value freedoms of the people, not media, not government but us. How? Truly its beyond me for the keepers are behind iron walls.
Speaking of surveillance…..
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/utterly-flocked-we-dont-track-people-firm-deploys-nationwide-network-warrantless
Yep, Great Britain is doing a bang-up job of protecting its children (notably the female ones) from abuse from men of a certain ethnic background.
LOL, now that’s funny (but in a bad way).
Why does trump tolerate flock cameras surveilling americans as they walk and drive. When will we fight back??
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/utterly-flocked-we-dont-track-people-firm-deploys-nationwide-network-warrantless
Ten years ago, the T.V. show Person of Interest had a plot-point needing street surveillance cameras and microphones feeding into a massive government computer using facial recognition, type of gait, voice recognition, etc. to track down people.
Barely Science Fiction back then, fact today!
Cameras started appearing everywhere in Denver back in the late 90s, early 2000s. I asked a Congressman friend one day about all the surveillance cameras, and his response was “what cameras”? I quipped “good answer”!
Fight back? Americans willingly, enthusiastically enable 24/7 personal surveillance. From their bedrooms to thoe boardrooms, in their cars. audio, video, motion, text, email and precision GPS.
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True, and it can and will be weaponized against those who use it, but the surveillance cameras are indirectly wired into the Intelligence Community aparatus.
As a Ham, my local club got to visit the state capital’s DOT control center one evening. Though the capital, its is diminutive compared to other cities in the state, and it had 232 controlled intersections with cameras in every one and more. In addition to cameras, which can and is used for facial recognition, they are now using radar in heavily trafficked intersections to “sense” cars when the glare of the sun interferes with camera images. Every intersection is monitored for traffic flow, and using algorithms mandated by the Feds, alter the timing of the lights.
It was interesting, and alarming…
Is it true that your vehicle sends a bluetooth signal to the flock camera and that is what triggers the lights at an intersection to change. Bluetooth from your phone if the car/truck is an older model?
I have a very dear friend in the UK and we have always discussed geopolitical views.
I sent her this message but wonder if she is safe in reading it!
I am so worried about her and her 5 year old twin boys. What will become of them—–
and what will become of US???
How much trouble are we facing here?
Lots!
My husband’s sister is in Wales. They have a weekly call with robust conversations about the state of UK politics and the injustices being rained down on the people there who have been relegated to criminals for objecting to having had their country ripped out from under them, then daring to make their outraged voices silenced. On penalty of prosecution, fines, and/or prison.
Carolynn, we also think long and hard before sending anything to her which even in the smallest sense smells of criticism of the modern day Stalinists in power. Lest Starmer’s Brown Shirts show up on the steps of my 82 year old sister in law. So far we’re not even sure if conversations are being monitored, although we expect the time will come.
Discretion is right. Your awareness and love/concern for your friend is right. What a terrible, dystopian world.
Covid showed us how destructive Gov,s can really be, including the USA.
So did the 2020 “election”.
Which is why the French arrested him in furtherance of the EU’s totalitarian goals.
ELIMINATE FIVE GUYS EYES NOW! 🙂
this latest X article by the author Eric Schwalm, titled ‘Eye of the Hurricane: Why This Political Quiet Requires LIfting Every Rock’ may fit with this topic; the author highlights this calm before the storm where the forces that intend to dominate have gone a bit quiet, as noticed by combat vets, the enemy is in the regrouping phase.
Personally believe this is the same war that Telegram founder Pavel Durov, and our host Sundance, have been seeing, mapping and navigating for many years, and why the latest gif is ‘you thought it was bad, it’s going to get worse’ resonates with many who have decided to be up to the challenge .
not sure if that first link shows the whole article so adding this in case those not using the X/twitter format may be able to read it with this link (still learning this whole new format of twitter)
Sundance …thank you for this post.
Defense of free speech and Liberty are among the many nefarious reasons why Senator John Thune won’t pass the Save America Act. Who pays into Senator Thune’s reelection fund? It is embarrassing to know Thune is a native of South Dakota. He dam’sho ain’t no cowboy. What a creep John Thune grew up to be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thune
World cup is going to be one of the greatest marketing and public relations tool for sovereignty, gaining allies to rise up and take control of our destiny.
We are amassing ordinary citizens from around the world at record pace.
The 5 eye must keep everyone divided and bickering to win. They have to be in full on panic right now.
May the cabal’s time be coming to an end!
Viva le America!
FILTHY LIBERALS
Another nail in Canada’s Coffin.
Our Idiot Boomers have voted to enslave everyone.
This is worse than “HATE” Laws
CANADA’S CITIZENS ARE CRABS IN THE BUCKET.
DOOMED.
I’m buying more AMMO….
Time to go to an antique store and get an old fashioned typewriter…..
The only people left who can arguably influence the course of events are people of faith in the West, the true civil libertarians. But unfortunately, we are too prone to being sidetracked by smoke & mirrors to demand the change that is necessary to even slow down this perilous slide toward one-world totalitarianism, let alone halt it, if only temporarily, in its tracks.
Even on sites such as this Treehouse, which is a bastion of free thinking where the provocative questions are still being asked, I marvel at those who, for instance, try to paint the likes of Vladimir Putin as an enlightened renaissance man, a guardian of western values of democracy and thought. Pavel Durov would be astounded at such thinking. It is not true that the enemy of my enemy is always my friend. Sometimes, that enemy is just…convenient – no more.
C.S. Lewis in his works The Abolition of Man and in his Perelandra trilogy, especially the last volume in that work, That Hideous Strength, previewed the end of the trends that we see coming to fruition in today’s western countries. Thirty years ago, would you have imagined a Britain where thousands of people were arrested for mean tweets? Or a U.S. where people lost their jobs for refusing to be injected by an unproven, experimental vaccine? Or where people could be arrested for simply sunning themselves on a beach? Where churches were ordered closed while liquor stores were allowed to remain open? Could we have imagined we’d get to the place where the White House would fly a rainbow flag and transgender anarchists would bare their prosthetic breasts in public on the White House lawn without fear of arrest or public condemnation? In a nation where such things are normalized, the slide down to totalitarianism has already been greased because we’ve been conditioned to accept, whether or not we agree, the notion that anything goes today.. And the next outrage is simply a sign of the times, but nothing that we get up in arms over.
Until the spiritual/moral underpinnings of the West are restored, anything can be rationalized in this Brave New World the globalists are feverishly implementing. If we won’t allow the standards set by God to define our behavior, then the standards that will define us will be set by someone else, but they will be, inevitably, set. Only those who stand on a bedrock of unshakeable truths will weather that storm.
J
The lies from government are so predictable.
1. “It’s for the children.”
2. “(fill in the blank) is an existential threat to ‘democracy’ and requires a ‘whole of government’ approach to save us.”
3. “If it saves just one life, it will be worth it.”
And when those lies don’t work, government falls back on the tried and true:
“It’s your patriotic duty to comply. Those who do not comply are enemies of the state and will be treated as such.”
That was a fantastic video and a very good message. Americans need to take heed of his words and experiences.