The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is one government agency that remains largely hidden from the American public. It operates with a secret federal budget and appears to run independent activities, even having the means to generate its own revenue.
By now most people who follow politics understand how the CIA and State Department operate collaboratively in most foreign endeavors. Many CIA operatives have State Department covers. The CIA also works jointly with the State Dept on influence operations through USAID, which makes some recent events a little uncomfortable.
Against revelations about the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) funding violent domestic extremist groups, consider this graphic:
It is hard to argue against the possibility that behind some of the domestic violent extremists (what the FBI calls DVEs) is a network of finance that traces back to the CIA. It is a fact that USAID is -in part- a CIA influence operation. If the SPLC is funded by USAID, then who was ultimately funding the SPLC influence operations? It is an uncomfortable question.
As we researched several serious issues in the past two decades one thing always surfaces, the intelligence community is often at the heart of the matter. As a historic example, during research into the Benghazi, Libya chaos that ultimately led to the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens it became almost impossible to distinguish the CIA operatives from the State Dept objective.
In fact, we said the same thing about the CIA and the Qatar officials who were part of that background Libya story. It was almost impossible to tell a difference between the CIA operatives and the Qatari facilitators. The money was fungible and the Libya operation was an enmeshed network of mutually aligned government interests.
♦ When President Obama signed the finding memos for covert Libya and Syria operations, it is more than likely the last direct engagement on the matter as everything from that moment then sank below the surface into some system of CIA operations (Panetta) that was no longer controlled by the White House.
The boondoggled Libya mess known as “Operation Zero Footprint” burst back through the surface like a fast-breeching Trident submarine when the al-Qaeda attack against the Benghazi “consulate” took place.
Political chaos erupted on the surface and the only thing the White House could do was try to ignore the chaos until the water calmed again. As the fires raged at the CIA annex in Benghazi, Obama literally went to Las Vegas for a fundraising event. The quick removal of the current CIA Director (Petraeus) and a compliant media helped his team manage the issue.
♦ More recently we would not know of a CIA operation in Mexico if it were not for a car crash that killed two covert CIA operatives. Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said she knew nothing about the operation, I don’t think she was lying. “A statement from Mexico’s Ministry of Security said one U.S. agent entered Mexico as a visitor while the other entered with a diplomatic passport.” {source} If their car didn’t “drive off a ravine and explode” we would never even know about it.
As many people now understand, intercepting drugs, picking the winning and losing drug cartels and receiving money from the mechanics of illegal drug and human trafficking are part of how the CIA self-finances beyond their dark budget.
When we watch the Pentagon blowing up drug boats coming from Columbia and Venezuela, many people wonder if those were just the arrogant idiots who forgot to pay a CIA transit fee.
It is doubtful that CIA Director John Ratcliffe, or any modern CIA Director since George H.W. Bush ((’76/’77), has specific working knowledge of every operation the CIA is actually carrying out. That Occam’s Razor acceptance frames the doorway between Chuck Schumer’s “six ways from Sunday” mindset and the group of mutually assured recipients of envelopes at George H.W. Bush’s funeral.
We start to exit the discussion through the same door we entered. If the SPLC is funded by USAID, then who was ultimately funding the SPLC influence operations, or, wait for it, the ongoing operations to resist and remove President Donald Trump.
Yes, it remains a series of very uncomfortable questions. However, ultimately at the end of the SPLC goal was the removal of President Trump, no?
FBI Agent Peter Strzok, who originated the Crossfire Hurricane operation then set up the parameters for the targeting effort itself, received a coin of recognition and appreciation from what agency? The CIA.
The Trump-Russia collusion narrative was fabricated by Eric Ciaramella and Julia Gurganus inside the National Intelligence Council and Directorate of Analysis, at the behest of CIA Director John Brennan.
The same operatives from within the same agency then organized an anonymous whistleblower complaint in an effort to trigger an impeachment investigation and subsequent trial. All of it was fraudulently created, fabricated, spun to give the illusion of something that did not exist, and all of it came from where? The CIA.
Additionally, every time you find yourself confused or perplexed by events and outcomes that seemingly contradict themselves creating chaos and confusion, it is a best practice to pause remember what it feels like to be reviewing an intelligence operation.
The hallmark patterns of chaos and confusion run consistent when reviewing intelligence operations from the outside, and that includes the inability of anyone to explain just how algorithmically controlled narratives seem to find mysterious support.
Yes folks, it’s time for a national conversation about the Central Intelligence Agency.



It is also time to subpoena every member of Congress.
Act Blue, SPLC, J6, SG, RG, C19, Election fraud, fraud etc.
Start with retired members up to their necks in it and move up.
POTUS admin doesn’t seem to be taking this seriously enough.
We also need our own Pinkerton service to expose these criminals.
The fight of our lives for the nation, legally.
The deep state exists to keep the deep state safe while saying they’re keeping Americans safe.
Start with Thune!
Bring back the Beech of CIA Gina Haspel to start the interrogations. I’m sure she could get Thune to spill the beans.
Also include AIPAC.
It doesn’t even touch the top 25 lobbying orgs in DC. Why is it a special concern of yours?
https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-spenders
Take the $$$ away first.
Which $$$?
Even if Congress defunded the CIA, it would still be viable and flush with operating $$$.
Don’t forget about the off the books CIA drug $$$.
Billy Clinton & Barry Seal in Mena, Arkansas? George H. W. Bush was V.P. during those operations. Bushes & Clintons have been running dope at least since the 1980s.
It’s why we never hear the left say “defund the CIA”.
Perhaps it is also worth taking a look at the relationship between the CIA and USSOCOM.
For a long time, active duty military Special Forces have been “detailed” to the CIA for ostensibly Title 50 activities while in reality functioning in a Title 10 capacity within the CIA’s Special Activities Center – Ground Branch, conducting clandestine and covert paramilitary operations on the ground.
Most Americans have no idea exactly what the CIA is up to, if it is even remotely legal or ethical, or how they have become self-funding.
I had always read that GW Bush in his CIA Director’s role was never a decision maker, just the guy who would be able to schmooz with Congressional funding sources to extract more money for the agency and the guy who kinda made up the budge, but that he wasn’t the guy deciding on operations.
Who knows? That’s the problem. So secretive we know little.
That is correct. The Director is a figurehead only. The next level down actually runs things. That’s why the Director can never clean out or change the agency.
HW, but yes you’re correct overall.
I will bet that cartoon is more accurate than we would want to know. The ONLY way this gets genuinely cleaned out is with God. Pray!
Including LBJ’s war on poverty, damn him.
And just think, it was so good at eradicating poverty! /sarc
Good at increasing Democrat power, which was always the goal. Can’t question a war, even if it’s on poverty. Gotta move–now!
And his “Great Society.”
I suspect that FOB (friends of Brennan and Barack) are running the show at the agency.
I mean, they killed JFK.
With a little help from the Mossad.
We the people have had this conservation many times to no avail. We have said over and over that we want the CIA and FBI dismantled and that the Congress should represent the voters that elected them. Instead we get told that they are in control and they are not going to give that control up, So sit down and shut up and we may let you live your life in whatever way we deem appropriate.
They control fusion technology that will make oil obsolete and will release it when they choose. They may even control the weather. They certainly control the politicians and the financial markets.
1) Pray, 2) Cut ALL the money
Hear! Hear!
1) Cut ALL the money. 2) Pray. 3) Ammo up.
I’m not convinced that there IS viable fusion twch. I’ve waited and hoped for 57 years.
It doesn’t matter what we’ve said over and over. You are dealing with an incorporated entity. They presume that you agree to whatever they themselves decide to do because you keep electing the President/CEO and the board of directors (Congress). They are not the actual government, but rather are an incorporated vendor of government services under contract (constitution). And that corporation is chartered in ENGLAND. The British have been conniving to regain control of the colonies since before the ink was dry on the Revolutionary War peace treaties. The US has been Britain’s cat’s-paw since the Civil War.
The only way to fight them on their own terms is to rebut all their presumptions at law. Since you have all been unlawfully converted into corporate entities yourselves (it is your corporate Strawman name in ALL CAPS that gets hauled into their courts to be persecuted, robbed, and incarcerated; don’t be dumb enough to stand in for your Strawman) you need to rebut that presumption as well; they cannot legally address a living man or woman unless they hornswoggle you into contracting with them. This link explains much:
https://orsja.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/12presumptions-in-law.pdf
And by the way, your state “government” is a franchise of the feds.
If there is no political supervision of CIA because of fear of leaks then perhaps it would be best for them not to exist but their job handed over to policing by law enforcement bodies where there is supervision at the highest level and report back at the appropriate time – i.e. on completion of anti criminal action and prosecutions.
The OSS/CIA learned many things from the Gestapo and SS after WWII via Operation Paperclip.
Imagine a pecan pie as big in diameter as a standard backyard swimming pool. It has one drop from a dropper of arsenic….would you eat a piece?
Ask Gina Haspel, she’ll know what to do!
They took down Alex Jones too!
Alex may be a nut, but he said some insightful and true things—and helped organize the J6 protest that mad Nancy P weaponized.
Often wondered if Jones had a friend inside the organization…..he was too prescient.
Jones was actually targeted by a deniable domestic IC operative–who went to my institute. Think Jones was just smart, well-read, and fearless, which is why he was targeted.
Many friends get targeted if they step out of line by a fraction of an inch.
In politics, respect your enemies, fear your friends.
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Getting warmer with every word. 100% of key positions are dominated by the six ways to sunday crowd. The gatekeepers make sure it stays that way. Loyalty to to the agency and NOT to Americans.
Evil…
The Agency would likely continue to exist in some form if every link to, and funding from, the U.S.govt was cut off.
True: but We The Taxpayers should not be paying for their activities.
And with the funding pulled, the opportunity would arise for FinCEN to begin tracking transactions.
Exactly. Coincidentally posted this at the same time. Remember just hours before the Butler, PA assassination attempt, our old pal Victoria Nuland was interviewed and said — and I quote — “I don’t think that Donald Trump is going to be president, so if that’s what Putin’s betting on, he’s going to get an unhappy surprise.”
The Nuland Prophecy: https://directorblue.substack.com/p/the-nuland-prophecy
In addition to the CIA/INTEL Community and an audit is needed of the US Military’s Special Operations Command.
During the Obama Regime, 8,000+ non-uniformed Special Operations “operatives” were HIRED, who would be operating OUTSIDE the control of the Department of War (ex-DoD) … it was stated they would be deployed on missions overseas as well as DOMESTICALLY. To this day there has not been a single word on these “operatives” beyond the reports of their hiring.
The Budget of the Special Operations Command is classified and is also partially mixed in with the INTEL Community’s Budget.
It was not until 2018 that the US INTEL Community had to request support from the US Military Special Operations Command via REQUEST to the Department of War (ex-DoD). Prior to that point the US INTEL Community was authorized to directly task the US Military’s Special Operations Command for Support.
In 2020 the the arrangement went back to the pre-2018 arrangement.
It is not clear if Secretary Hegseth has changed the arrangement back again nor if a thorough review and audit has been done of the special Operations Command.
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When you grant a charter of impunity to any group of people, what other than unimaginable crimes would you expect to eventually discover? Annul the charter, clean the stable, and reboot.
First, cut off the $$$
The CIA isn’t supposed to operate inside the US. That is the job of the FBI.
https://legalknowledgebase.com/why-cant-cia-operate-on-us-soil
Since when do we know that the Obama Administration promoting the LIE that Vladimir Putin and the Russian government helped President Trump win the 2016 electio?
I. 7/23/25:
DNI Tulsi Gabbard auf X: „https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/svg/1f9f5.svg New evidence has emerged of the most egregious weaponization and politicization of intelligence in American history. Per President @realDonaldTrump’s directive, I have declassified a @HouseIntel oversight majority staff report that exposes how the Obama Administration https://t.co/0sS4Df8yoI“ / X
II. 11/5/25:
The Hidden Transcript of Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson Testimony Is the Key to Reveal CIA Targeting of President Donald Trump – The Last Refuge
Enemy Within….. cannot be said often and loud enough!!!
It’s time to defund the fraud and the over-reach of the Federal government. The 16th Amendment gave them the funds to create agencies, bureaus and departments, to employ 3,000,000 civilians, and to impose countless regulations upon us. Repeal the Federal income tax and dismantle the system of redistribution. Let the States tax and fund their own programs. Return the Federal government to its Constitutionally-mandated size, scope, and cost.
At this point, we have to wonder if the CIA is even really American since it seems to operate against America’s interests.
Find out who they answer to and you will likely discover what their true purpose is all about.
Wait until the paper is skinned on the ACLU.
We already know CIA/State have been running a color revolution in our country. The corporate media assets all know this. On whose behalf? Many in Congress (and other positions) have rotated through the CIA (or is it MI6?). Maybe Langley is running HR, doing the hiring and firing, even recruiting from foreign countries. Is this why they call it, The Company?
Watching the Iran show, I have begun to question the paradigm of the Iranian leadership. Either they are drunk on the zealot ideology and their salvation requires the initiation of their messianic moment….Or these people have been drinking the CIA koolaid after the Color Revolution 47yrs ago.
Common sense, logic and reason are totally missing indicating: insanity OR the cia is fighting for a network it created that has Iran as a central node (47 yrs to build a global network.)
IF any of this is correct, the Iran show is not just about relignment of nations and trade, but the destruction of a central CIA node on behalf of the Globalist Agenda.
I’m reading too much…?
You are exactly correct.
Think of a octopus. CIA is just one arm. There are others, like MI6.
IMO
Now Chucky arrives Tuesday, as Europe and the UK are still bent over the Iran blockade barrel.
Ever since it was brought up here, Lenin on a train/proles and zealous students stirred up, I applied and tested the model. Ayatollah on a train, even Ghandi on a train. Still wondering about the little red book.
Maurice Strong, Anna Louise Strong, Mao.
https://prussiagate.substack.com/p/the-reichswef-part-iii
Thank you kindly. My browser here didn’t pass muster but I’ll find another route. Looking forward to reading this.
“Yes folks, it’s time for a national conversation about the Central Intelligence Agency.”
Have they been funding the myriad assassination attempts (how many do we not know about?) against President Trump as well?
/rhetorical
Abolish the CIA and FBI. Pass a law that prohibits any ex employee from any job in law enforcement, up to and including dog catcher.
I concur. I hope the president can go there.
Southern Poverty Law Center President Richard Cohen stepped down less than two weeks after the “firing” of co-founder Morris Dees in 2019.
FTA – “After more than 30 years at the Southern Poverty Law Center, I’ve decided to step down,” Cohen said, “Other legacy civil rights organizations have transitioned to a new generation of leaders, and I believe that we should, too.”…”We’re going to do that, and we have brought in Michelle Obama’s former Chief of Staff, Tina Tchen, to help us do it.”
…An SPLC source told CNN Friday that Cohen believed stepping down would help the group implement findings of a workplace review being conducted by Tchen, a lawyer who leads the Workplace Cultural Compliance practice at Buckley LLC.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/24/us/southern-poverty-law-center-splc-dees-cohen/index.html
“Other legacy civil rights organizations have transitioned to a new generation of leaders “
I find it interesting that Ben Jealous, another Obama friend/activist/Columbia grad and former President of NAACP, “transitioned” to Sierra Club President in 2022…in similar hostile takeover kind of way, as well.
Btw – Virginia native Richard Cohen is also Columbia grad, who practiced law in D.C. for a bit before deciding a move to Montgomery Alabama would somehow enrich his life.
…MONTGOMERY ALABAMA!?!
Like you’ve been saying forever, Ask the right questions AND follow the $…. audit the CIA, Fed, and NASA…. $trillions wasted
Shut it down! Didn’t we say this from day one? Isn’t it under the executive branch? Traitors everywhere!
Time to talk more than just the CIA.
https://www.steynonline.com/16171/the-secret-service-makes-me-nervous
Who is the guy distracting Trump while the gunman was racing for the trophy hunt?
Oz Pearlman the mentalist who tried to read Trump’s mind seconds before shooting at White House Correspondents’ Dinner speaks out.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/us/news/who-is-oz-pearlman-mentalist-who-tried-to-read-trumps-mind-before-white-house-dinner-shooting-speaks-out/articleshow/130526640.cms
There are only two powers that can eradicate and wipe the CIA off the map: Jesus Christ or a football field sized meteor striking earth (hopefully Langley)
Can only happen if 1) you have a serious legacy media push, 2) a CIA director capable of assisting, and 3) a president who will back it. We are currently at two out of three.
No one could ever say it better than Harry Truman (in a 1961 interview):
“I never would have agreed to the formulation of the CIA back in ’47, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo.”
It needs to be abolished. Its replacement must be far smaller, tasked solely with gathering foreign intel and passing it on to the leadership. No more black ops, drug trafficking, domestic spying, or anything else.
The 1963 Letter that POTUS Truman Wrote to the Washington Post –
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” But there are now some searching questions that need to be answered. I, therefore, would
like to see the CIA be restored to its original assignment as the intelligence arm of the
President, and that whatever else it can properly perform in that special field—and that its
operational duties be terminated or properly used elsewhere. ” …
https://ia801202.us.archive.org/30/items/LimitCIARoleToIntelligenceByHarrySTruman/
Limit%20CIA%20Role%20To%20Intelligence%20by%20Harry%20S%20Truman.pdf
I nominate the following ballsy words to be part of this conversation: Decharter, impound, clawback.
Well, it’s about time you figured that one out. I’ve been calling for a major overhaul of our whole National Security Apparatus, and dismembering CIA for decades, and wrote a book on it, as it is critical if we wish to end the weaponization of national security against conservatives.
The self published book had to go through the CIA and DNI pre publication review and was delayed, but not thing rescinded as I know my stuff and the policies. But yes, you are 💯🎯‼️% correct it is time to review the CIA…and I would add dismember and distribute the CIA to end the 60+yrs of a rogue agency. Having served nearly 10 years of 40 supporting/ serving in national security. Keep em coming…excellent articles that must end with movement AND ACCOUNTABILITY!
Sundance, God bless you, I think you just stepped on the tripwire but you are absolutely correct! It is well past time and I imagine Bobby Kennedy would be the very first one to agree! Too bad his niece Caroline is such an idiot but every family has them, I guess!
This is the time to address the issue rather than after God forbid another attempt.
Thank you, Sundance.
Enter Joe DiGenova.
Anybody remember Mena airport? GWB, Billy Boy Clinton. Cocaine smuggling by CIA. A nobody pilot ends up dead. We just move on.
The CIA started as the OSS, an off shoot of the British MI6? MI5? Anyway, who among us really thinks that the loyalty of the CIA is not still with the British?
Trump is trying to sideline the British .. . . (they seem to be helping him) The five eyes, Russia gate . . . are all British inspired . . .
At least that is my take on these things . . .
Overheard in a drinking establishment –
-Surround Langley with Marines at 2AM on a Sunday morning . Tell anyone who shows up Monday morning –
“This place is closed – you no longer work here”
Burn it down and salt the earth-
I’m pretty sure he was saying what a lot of people think.
Will try again.
Anyone remember Mena airport? GWB and Bill Clinton. CIA cocaine smuggling.
Barry Sears. Sundance covered this a very long time ago.
Good Luck! I don’t need a conversation. I want justice.
It is Not with Jest or Sarcasm that I call for a Marine Air Assault on Langley, VA. …. the World would be a Better Place to live for it and to occur Soonest.
A lot of crap coming out of Langley…
An air assault followed by tanks surrounding the perimeter, and if necessary, a siege until they capitulate.
Sometime between 527 and 509 BC the Praetorian Guard was established to protect the Roman Emperor. The Guard, over the years, became the deciders of who got to be Emperor and who had to die so the Guard could put their puppet in power. Sound familiar? In 312 AD, after fighting to become Emperor, Constantine wiped them all out and permanently destroyed their barracks. I guess he did not want to fall victim to their antics. No more Praetorian Guard after 312 AD. That was about 800 years of their corruption.
Maybe Trump should learn from that lesson and put an end to the modern-day Praetorian Guard after only 79 years of their existence. We should not wait another 720 years. Think how bad things will get after another 700 years.
Do not forget about he National Endowment for Democracy.
I may be in the minority here, but I have a hard time believing last night’s assassination attempt was a CIA operation. A lone gunman with a pistol and shotgun, trying to sprint through the metal detector area and then into the heavily guarded entrance to the ballroom has a very slim chance of success. I would think if the CIA was really involved, the operation would be more professional and have a better chance of succeeding.
It’s possible that last night’s attack was a terror attack, disguised as an assassination attempt. After they killed JFK, the CIA decided those kinds of operations were too messy and too traumatic. So they devised other ways of removing people in power they opposed, the Watergate operation against Nixon, who had just won 49 states, being one example. It’s possible that this attack was intended to intimidate, and not necessarily to kill. But I have very little doubt that the Clowns in Action were involved. This agency must be shuttered – it is an existential threat to the liberty of all Americans.
Spynet is self aware………
….Are we aware of spynet?
The CIA has become an anti-American intelligence agency which focuses more efforts on undermining the U.S. government to their own enrichment, as in why else would they do it if not for self enrichment, than they do undermining enemies of America. China and Russia routinely steal our technology yet our own spy agencies can’t seem to catch or stop them. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were willingly helping those countries, again back self enrichment. The CIA specifically needs to be purged down to the janitors!!
We have no intelligence in america, we have smartphones, adult-proof medication bottles, and proposition 65 warning labels