BUMPED: I see the efforts to divide the MAGA base continue. I remind everyone to be prudent in your discernment of who is antagonizing, what topics and processes they are using, and ultimately who benefits from it. Remember, “there are trillions at stake!” This nonsense battle of “influencers” and “podcasters” is, well, just gross.
On March 3rd through March 6th, 2016, the Republican presidential primary was at the precipice of a key inflection point (Super Tuesday) when a large group of political leadership, tech titans, bankers and political influence agents assembled at the AEI summit in Sea Island, Georgia.
Citation Here – Citation Here and Citation HERE (w/itinerary details)
In the decade that passed, you have seen me reference this Sea Island group frequently, because the origin of where we are today can only be understood if you followed the outcome of that 2016 Sea Island meeting and the decade of activity therein.
In 2016 the agenda of the group, though they gently denied it at the time, was to figure out a way to remove the disruption Donald Trump represented from the business model of DC politics. The Sea Island confab discussed how to stop him, or at the very least manage the potential damage he could deliver to the system – specifically, to the Republican wing of the UniParty apparatus.
Here in 2025, we are currently witnessing an outcome of activity from essentially the same group. For this phase, the intention is to fracture the baseline of support that underpins President Trump’s movement; what is reasonably called MAGA and the America-First movement.
What follows below is a review that might help people understand what exactly is behind the various pressure narratives we see being introduced into this narrative operation. The remarks toward Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, various iterations of Qatar vs Israel as espoused by voices like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, the claims of antisemitism shouted against any voice that doesn’t put the interests of the current Israeli administration at the forefront, and the various alignments therein.
In the biggest picture, this is not a battle against individual voices, but rather the positioning of interests to maintain the same objective that was discussed in the aforementioned Sea Island confab.
A few points are needed for context as this discussion enlarges. First, I am only 80% finished with the year-long tracking of the participants; however, due to multiple requests this is one of the few times I will outline something that is not yet fully developed. I have written about this activity before {SEE HERE} in 2023.
Second, this is not the first rodeo for this activity. After the Tea Party rose in 2010, we saw this same institutional response from almost identical participants to control the threat of a leaderless organic grassroots movement. President Obama, the DNC/RNC and the Republican power apparatus all opposed the Tea Party, as they do MAGA for exactly the same reason.
The need for control is a reaction to fear.
You might remember supporters of the various patriot or Tea Party grassroots organizations being targeted by the Obama DOJ and IRS. Simultaneously John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell labeled Tea Party supporters as political jihadists, extremists and hobbits. The targeting operations to isolate, ridicule and marginalize the movement was both a DNC and an RNC operation.
Republicans and Democrats worked together to eliminate the Tea Party, and Republicans were more than willing to lose elections to stop Tea Party supported candidates from winning. This is important to remember, because that type of activity both evidences the UniParty apparatus and the opposition to the modern iteration of the Tea Party in the larger MAGA voting base. In short, the DC professional political apparatus hates all versions of the same uncontrollable electorate regardless of label.
When they departed Sea Island, eventually the professional Republicans (GOPe) ended up settling on supporting Hillary Clinton, because Donald Trump could not be defeated within the confines of the party apparatus and became the presumptive nominee. The tech group from Sea Island was already part of the Hillary Clinton alignment, and the “political influence agents” also saw Hillary as the comfortable, predictable and non-disruptive candidate. The key underpinning all of them was “anyone but Trump.”
Hillary then walked toward November with party Democrats, party Republicans, tech, Silicon Valley and the never-Trump conservatives. However, Hillary encountered a major minus in the electorate when the Bernie Sanders group discovered the origin of the DNC control operation. Hillary Clinton gained the party Republicans, but Hillary Clinton lost a lot of Bernie voters; many of them went to Trump.
[NOTE: It’s a little funny, but the five-year-long RNC -vs- TP/MAGA fight is essentially what we are now watching within the other wing of the UniParty, the DNC wing. The grassroots left against the DNC professionals. The “progressives” or “socialist democrats” are taking Democrat scalps the same way the grassroots right took down Republicans. The old guard Democrats are quitting.]
All of this is said to frame the context for 2025, and the objectives of the political influence agents to break up the MAGA movement into smaller digestible pieces. The wedge issue is not accidentally Israel.
Israel has been selected as a wedge issue to divide MAGA, because Israel-First influencers viewed themselves in a vulnerable position. This too needs context.
♦ QATAR. All year long I have been watching the Qatar vs Israel battle surface on social media. At first it was a very odd dynamic to watch, because it did not make sense. Then a few things became more visible that made it evident why the U.S-Israel groups were concerned.
In the decade that preceded 2025, you cannot find too many examples of Qatar ever having a positive headline outside the praise from Barack Obama and Joe Biden. While Obama had always embraced Qatar (ex. bank for the Muslim Brotherhood), it was Joe Biden who labeled Qatar a major non-NATO ally. The Obama/Biden administration liked Qatar, the first Trump administration not so much.
Prior to 2025, Qatar had a history of bad influence operations, where “bad” is defined as them doing really bad things; like funding radical Islamic extremists (creating the Arab Spring), giving safe haven to the exiled Islamist Egyptian leadership, financing Al-Jazeera, shipping covert CIA/State Dept weapons to the al-Qaeda operatives in Libya and Syria, being the bankers for Iranian money, supporting Hamas leadership, etc.
In the first Trump term, President Trump confronted Qatar and told the Gulf Cooperation Council (Egypt, Bahrain, UAE and Saudi Arabia) to maintain pressure on Qatar. So, it was quite a reversal to see the second Trump term reverse course entirely and begin praising Qatar. However, if you think about the issue of the Israeli war in Gaza, and how that changed the landscape, things begin to take on a new context.
This new 2025 positive-Qatar vibe created anxiety for the pro-Israel elements inside the USA. It wasn’t a matter of direct policy that seemed to unnerve them, but rather a change in influence priority. Influence is a tenuous game of position.
In early 2025, Israel-first voices started to seem visibly worried their White House influence operation may be diminished by a positive Trump message toward Qatar. In my opinion, that influence fear was actually substantive, and yet part of an intentional Trump foreign policy agenda; akin to a soft brushback pitch against the U.S-Israel influence shop who had become very comfortable taking their Trump influence for granted.
Friendly messaging toward Qatar’s influence shop was viewed by U.S-Israeli voices as a betrayal. However, given the nature of the Trump transition team having former lobbyists for Qatar, the friendly messaging was understandable; however, x2, that set of facts didn’t make it palatable for the Israeli coalition. Ergo, an influence battle began very early in the Trump administration, and the internecine Qatar vs Israel issue was visible to those of us who watch things closely.
Keep in mind, historically within the GOPe apparatus, this was a lucrative financial tug-of-influence game. The neocon/intelligence wing (Bolton/McCain) had one foot in pro-Qatar and one foot in pro-Israel, with ¹both sides funding for influence and delivering affluence. So much so that their interests from a USA viewpoint were virtually indistinguishable, see Libya. Additionally, behind this financial set of motives, this confab of influence beneficiaries was/is the core of that Sea Island meeting.
[¹President Obama played this dynamic brilliantly to the benefit of his Muslim Brotherhood allies.]
♦ THE RACE – At this point in the analysis, it is worthwhile dropping the traditional viewpoint of U.S. politicians as “candidates” and start thinking about them in the more accurate term as “horses.” The horses race in the Kentucky Derby, but it is the owners who win the prize money.
When you view U.S. politicians as horses in the various races, we start to think more clearly about who their owners are. This is the key to understanding U.S political candidates.
You might be able to remember the name of the horse who won the Triple Crown, you might even remember the jockey who rode the horse, but less likely you remember who owned it. In U.S. politics, it’s the owners within the political races who control the horses not the horses who control the owners.
Donald J. Trump represented a serious threat to this dynamic. Trump is a horse who is also his owner; this is a major disruption in political sport.
The owners assembled in Sea Island, March 2016, to discuss this disruption.
By the time we get to 2020, the ‘anyone but Trump’ theme was clearly at play. The Intelligence Community assisted, Big Tech assisted, corporate media assisted, our ever-predictable Republicans were once again purposefully and willfully blind, and with mail-in ballots all the rage, Trump was all alone against the entire apparatus with only voters trying to offset the American political control operation. In the aftermath of the ridiculous outcome, all of the participants circled the wagons, and Nancy Pelosi provided the literal fence.
In 2021, the Big Tech sub-segment of the Sea Island confab then went full combat against MAGA elements, banning, deplatforming, demonetizing and removing any countervailing voices. Meanwhile, anyone associated with Trump was targeted by the collaborating government mechanisms, DOJ/FBI and the media once again ran cover.
In the 2023 version of ‘anyone but Trump,’ 43 billionaires together with an assist from Sea Island attendee, Elon Musk, tried to launch Ron DeSantis as a MAGA alternative. However, the Tea Party-hardened MAGA voters looked at their scars, and when they saw the $100 bill on a fishing line being dragged through the MAGA community, they refused to chase it.
By then, the 2016 Cruz Crew had switched to 2024 Alligator emojis, but even the “Evangelicals” with unlimited funding couldn’t fuel the DeSantis starship.
The Ron launch was as wobbly as DeSantis’ head during speaking engagements; and Casey wearing Melania’s heels, Duck Dynasty skinny pants and Sarah Palin’s ‘Grizzly Mama’ T-shirt couldn’t compensate.
What a hot mess.
The MAGA alternative was as structurally inauthentic as Ron’s boots, even with the lifts.
Hey, be thankful. No one has ever accused the Republican consultant class of accurately assessing the political landscape around them.
Their inauthenticity is what helps us to know who they are. It’s a net positive.
I would make the argument that if Ron’s owners had somehow pulled it off, Biden would have been yanked fast and replaced with Newsom, and we’d be looking at the “future in hindsight” right now.
♦ 2025 – That Sea Island crew doesn’t quit. The “anyone but Trump” operation is back in full swing despite the 2024 victory message.
Step #1 in the control process is to lose the 2026 election and put the Republican wing of the uniparty bird back into the minority. Again, this isolates our people’s president.
However, they can’t just lose 2026 and call it a day. They still need to manage the problem that President Trump represents for another three years. There are Trump policies to undermine, Trump executive orders to let sit non-legislatively supported, and all of this inaction must take place while Trump supporters are distracted with maximum shiny things.
This is where the “political influencers” come into play as mercenaries and advanced operative messengers for a very useful dynamic to emphasize – the operation that began as Qatar vs Israel.
Tucker Carlson representing the face of JD Vance’s support network becomes a target for Mark Levin et al. Candace Owens is labeled as the female face of Nick Fuentes, who, for some odd reason, is being algorithmically boosted by the same tech platforms that banned his account as an identified racist, extremist and antisemitic content producer.
This Fuentes boosting, again not coincidentally by the same elements who attended that 2016 Sea Island confab including Google, began in July 2025, about a month prior to TPUSA head Charlie Kirk telling his pro-Israel friends (billionaire Bill Ackman) that the content messaging on behalf of the Netanyahu government was backfiring amid Gen-Z. To wit, Netanyahu said, ‘not to worry’ my good friends of Israel, Larry Ellison and David Ellison, have things under control with TikTok, Twitter and Paramount. CBS’s Bari Weiss announced shortly thereafter.
While the inside White House influence game continues, all of these various 2025 interests again find their origin in Sea Island, Georgia, at the March 2016 AEI conference. Remember, think “owners” not “horses.”
♦ HORSES:
• Vice President JD Vance – Heir apparent to the MAGA endorsement of President Donald Trump. Groomed from the stable of billionaire influence agent and one time (no more) friend of President Trump, Peter Thiel. A more libertarian co-founder of Palantir, a skyrocketing AI software platform creator with billions in new federal contracts and likely more to come. Palantir CEO Alex Karp, a key industrialist applying the very best of AI creator systems to the merging targeting and identity tracking technology of the future.
Without Peter Thiel, there is no Senator JD Vance in 2022. Without Senator JD Vance there is no VP nominee in 2024. Oh, and despite their stealth separating in 2017, Elon Musk and Peter Thiel remain BFF influencers in 2025. And without Larry Ellison in 2022, there is no liquidity Musk to capture the Twitter Platform, which not coincidentally became a launch vehicle for the Ron effort shortly after Ellison said he would not allow Musk to fail.
So, where does that put JD Vance’s collar? Who knows? We’ll keep watching as Mr Ellison, having successfully moved beyond the X operation, now moves to the TikTok/Paramount phase while simultaneously owning the Oracle system operation that X utilizes.
• Secretary of State Marco Rubio – For the first time in his political career, Marco is in a position where he is not directly accountable to voters. Having risen through the Florida legislature, state house and on to a federal Senate seat representing Florida, for the first time Rubio is applying himself without any election worries. His constituent base consists of President Trump.
Rubio is seemingly giving the appearance of having turned Maverick, having fun poking back at his previous owners, while running amuck in the free-range of Trump’s well-manicured landscape. Is Rubio required to return to a previously designated stable? Again, who knows. It’s super fun to watch this new less groomed, yet well maintained, stallion running in the wild. However, his pedigree is as trained as a Lipizzaner stallion. Will he tire of the free-range? We’ll keep watching.
• Governor Ron DeSantis – The one constant political hot mess in an ever-consistent GOPe playbook.
You might say that DeSantis could never stand a chance given his failure to launch in 2024. However, do not underestimate the stupidity of the professional consultant class who have a way of convincing owners that horse can run.
Ron’s only problem is he needs very narrow blinders and can’t turn corners. Other than that, he’s solid in the straights when all the obstacles are removed and the track is groomed specifically for his platformed shoes.
The issue for Sea Island, with DeSantis, is that despite his extremely managed exteriors, and despite the massive amount of money spent on the influence operations and appearances, only a specific type of Jockey can fit that little saddle.
[I mean someone had to tell Casey what to wear in Iowa the last time, and, well, think about it…. They both looked in the mirror that morning and thought, “Awesome – this will get em’.” How’d that work out?]
SUMMARY: Underneath all of what we are visibly seeing and witnessing, especially the outrage du-jour, is an underlying political background that consistently tries to control outcomes through various methods. This effort to split the MAGA base, using Israel or (insert_next_thing_here) as a wedge issue within the America First movement – only benefits one larger apparatus, the Sea Island billionaire control system.
This billionaire control system, a public-private partnership, previously deconstructed and co-opted the Tea Party returning the system to status quo.
The billionaires in finance and tech are set; their influence operation only varies slightly depending on the challenge, because they know they can purchase every horse in the race, and they are working earnestly through various iterations of the same owner playbook, with the end goal the same – control.
Just reject it.
Live your best life and pray.
The real problem is that while 85% of right-leaning voters identify as MAGA both economically and culturally, no matter who we vote for, we always get John McCain. The pathological obsession with playing God and affecting the lives of people in far away places and the total disregard for the relentless leftward and demonic drift of the culture and the abject refusal to improve the lives of citizens here at home is baked into the system.
Short of divine intervention or bloody revolt, this will continue to be the case because the system ensures it is so. The fake and gay constitutional republic™️ or as the leftists say our democracy™️ is professional wrestling. We don’t actually have representative government, we have rulers who are arbitrary and capricious and non-responsive to the people who pay for it all. I do not think we can vote our way out of it.
Correct….there’s that demonic name again…..John McCain. Unfortunately, DC is compromised of 95% mccains.
Yep… Beginning to look like one of them made it all the way to President…
What? Are your drinking something too highly fermented?
MeCain
What you describe has been true for 250 years. There is no changing that except through secession’s and re-forming the Union with a limited Federal government.
Sundance — Do you believe that Muslim massacres of Christians will cease if every Jew disappeared?
GGHD, would like to make an observation and a >judgement. The Muslims believe in ‘Submit to Allah or die’ as a component of Islam. … The conflicts between Christianity and Islam have existed since Mohammed rode out of the desert. … For example: The on-going massacre of Christians occurring in >Nigeria, Africa today occurs without a large ‘presence’ of Jews in the country especially in the areas of conflict. … Attacks against non-Muslims is a worldwide pattern.
The Islamists always proclaim Islam as the religion of peace and point to particular verses in the Koran. There are other verses in the Islamic books that result in the killing of non-believers. There is a worldwide pattern of attacks against non-Muslims by the Islamists.
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As a tangent issue about Religion and economic power, China has opened concentration camps for many Muslims in China, particularly the Uyghurs. …. The ‘running dogs’ of China in the USA have maintained an almost a complete silence about the concentration camps, while tossing ‘lit gasoline bombs’ at buildings in our country, because Trump wants to lower taxes and kick illegal-aliens out of America. … [Articles are everywhere about how the large number of illegals are used to inflate Democrat Party representation and Ballot Box Stuffing during elections.]
Another odd tangent issue is the >liberal acceptance of the ‘Trans-woman’ replacing real women in positions of influence in our country, and the encouragement of homosexual activity. … The ‘influence’ of such activity can be explained by the influence of the ‘Globalists’ or Sea Island group in our society. … There is also a religious component as explained in the Goodbook about homosexual activity. … Yet as Christians, >We need to understand that God Loves Everyone, and Jesus Christ died for all sinners including the Globalists too.
If we sinners REPENT!
His first appearance was in peace as a lamb. This next appearance he returns as a roaring Lion.
Those Globalists need to kiss the Son
The better question is: Do you believe that Muslims will not massacre Jews if Christians disappear?
After reading comments here, coming to the conclusion that Alynski’s “Rules for Radicals” is working according to plan…
Trump is just on a short leash with people who voted for him in 2024. It’s time for his performance review/check-in and people are starting to detach, as they should. It’s been almost a decade of chaos.
The chaos is has been orchestrated by the democrats and condoned by the republicans.
The only chaos President Trump has brought about is that of being elected. The dims have been drama queens on steroids, supplemented with caffein, cocaine and LSD.
All of the chaos has been their reaction to Trump who had done nothing at that time but be elected. As we found that was all they needed. Obama has scrambled what was left of their brains and they went all in on orange man bad and all hell broke lose and continues today sadly. They continue to believe the big lie.
Believing has nothing to do with it. They continue to use their lies to try and keep control.
Exactly.
“Trump is just on a short leash …. and people are starting to detach, as they should.”
Uhhh….. NO.
Please re-read Sundace’s article at the top of the page plus ALL of the links included therein.
You need more truthful background to de-propagandize your mind.
He/she should learn to speak for themselves.
True but that requires honesty and confidence in one’s decisions.
Hiding behind generalizations is a telltale for a factually unsupported argument.
Yeah. Whatever. It’s been ramped up for 10 years. Whose fault is that? We the American people have been asleep at the wheel for over 70 years. We, along with our parents and grandparents allowed this to happen. When you take God Our Father, Our Creator, out of our schools, government, and homes, you get satan. It’s that simple.
This is the time of the separation of the wheat and the chaff.
Choose wisely.
Trust God, Fear Not.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
Good grief. You blame people in the past who cannot defend themselves because they are dead and give yourself a free pass! Arrogance abounds.
Sounds as if you are upset that Pr. Trump is not doing what you want him to do, and not in the manner you would like.
This attitude is exactly what the Left wants you to do: despair and give up. To turn on each other, especially to turn on the one hope we have – President Donald J Trump.
All the Left is doing is using the “I’m a 2 Year Old Method”:
A 2 year old wants a cookie – you deny that 2 year old saying it will ruin their dinner, it’s bad for you – whatever. The 2 year old precedes to have a temper tantrum – screaming, crying, saying anything/everything to wearing you down (creating the Chaos of which you speak) in order to get that cookie.
I’ve seen this happen. A good parent will stick to their guns and refuse. A bad parent will cave and give the whole package to the 2 year old. The kid becomes fat and even more demanding. The parent keeps giving in, just for a little peace.
Most people yearn for calm… we want and order to our lives. The Left knows the only way they can get ahead is to create chaos and the Big Money uses these clowns and their methods to acquire/achieve their desires.
Trump is a good parent… the best.
Embrace the Chaos.
Trump without much support from the inner Deep State, has accomplished more in 10 months than some Presidents in 8 years, and GOOD STUFF too. The Sea Island Group will not go quietly into that good night. So let’s be vigilant. And talk to your low-information conservative leaning friends. We MUST absolutely prevent a Democrat controlled house.
Any chaos is helped along by the likes of you.
Not on a short leash with me. In fact it is past time for him to unleashed
“people are starting to detach, as they should”
I’m sure your pacifier is thinking the same thing.
Sundance, who/what/why is involved in the MTD situation? Respectfully…
…oops, MTG! Sorry.
She is a big oops. 👎
MTG is simply a loose cannon who could not control her vacillating mood swings and sometimes contradictory political positions. She pretty much “wore out her welcome” in the White House and much of the pro-Trump/ pro-MAGA base has had enough of her “maverick” escapades.
She was losing in the latest GOP inside polls to a Democrat opponent so President Trump, after apparently speaking with her, realized her irreparable stubbornness and vocally withdrew his support from her. So she just resigned effective 2 days AFTER her pension has vested (an obviously disingenuous move).
Anyhow that’s my take on it…. others may offer additional or substantively different perspectives.
Just to be clear, she was losing in a poll of potential GA Senate candidates, not for reelection to Congress. She could have stayed in Congress and gotten reelected for years to come. But, IMHO, she wanted to be a Senator and/or Governor, and Trump privately refused to back her for those positions and told her she would probably lose. After that, she went into “a woman scorned” mode…
Yes – that’s correct – MTG was trying to run for the Senate next year (probably to gain access to more grift $$$$$$).
BUT, a gentle reminder – the Senate *IS* one half (one chamber) of Congress. “Congress” consists of two chambers – the House of Representatives AND the Senate. 😎
Is it true that since she has been elected to Congress, her net worth increased to $25 million? If so, how does that happen on a yearly salary that is in the neighborhood of $175,000?
I read elsewhere (X.com or here) that she received about $15M from her father. The rest is likely from donors and “unusually brilliant” investments…… kind of like the “investment genius” (/sarc) Nancy Pelosi……😎
My take was that she was going to lose, and Pr. Trump did a power move to save a seat.
😉 Yep.. Simple as that.
🎯🎯
loose cannon indeed, best answer yet
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Nice overview GB!
Thanks Lolly.
Interesting that she had faded from prominence now that the media has largely abandoned using her as a “Republican against Pres. Trump.”
Marjory Taylor Green is the one who embroiled herself in this debacle. It’s already been posted by myself and others.
1. She is $30,000,000 richer since arriving in DC.
2. She hired illegals to work in her business.
3. When she “quits” in January she qualifies for a pension and medical for life after only serving 5 years.
4. She thought she might end up as a senator or perhaps gubernatorial
candidate. She doesn’t have the support for either in Georgia.
<<“3. When she “quits” in January she qualifies for a pension and medical for life after only serving 5 years.”
Well, OK, except that for her, her pension doesn’t start until she turns 62 and based on 5 years of service, annual FERS pension is
$174,000 x .017 x 5 = $14,790 plus of course social security, assuming she has at least 20 other quarters of work in a covered position.
As far as insurance, I don’t think she gets any FEHB insurance until she is Medicare-elligible (65).
Thanks
With 30,000,000 to play with, she will survive.
The issue here is this: is MAGA just the person of Donald Trump or did Donald Trump start a movement based upon certain principles, such as, in foreign policy, America first, not Israel first, repatriating manufacturing so as to revive the American working class, and MAHA, taking health and science back from the drug companies and big Ag.
If MAGA just means supporting Trump in whatever he says and does, that simplifies things greatly. But I’m one of those whom Trump convinced to reject conventional Republicanism in favor of the new set of principles that he advocated and ran on three times. For me and others who believe there is a principled MAGA movement that isn’t just the person of Donald Trump, the question is what happened to the movement and why isn’t Trump governing according to its principles?
Who convinced Trump to follow the neocon foreign policy he ran against so effectively? Who convinced Trump that it is MAGA to replace American STEM and tech workers with Indians? Who convinced Trump that building factories here in America but then staffing them with foreign workers somehow serves the goal of saving America’s working class? Who convinced Trump that we should try to save America’s rotten Left institutions of “higher learning” by importing half a million Chinese spies? Who convinced Trump he should let Marco Rubio pursue unprovoked regime change in Venezuela and Cuba?
I understand that acknowledging the need to ask and answer these questions is itself bitterly disappointing. But if MAGA as a principled movement has a future, we must.
As for staffing new American manufacturing plants, previous globalists destroyed America’s skilled labor force by outsourcing and it will take years to train a new skilled workforce. In the interim, who else will man these new factories?
Surely if American workers trained their replacements, we can reverse engineer this process.
Give Americans the same incentives and benefits as foreigners while simultaneously taking away freebies from foreigners and the problem should quickly resolve.
Reward Americans and incentive Americans to have productive families not foreigners collecting cash for their families.
The goal is to train American workers.
Not true. They use Americans to train the imports in all of Silicon Valley and have for decades. Did the same at Disney in recent history. Who do you think fixes the bugs the Indians can’t address? What we have is an aging workforce and the young people need to be trained and we are not doing that cause the corporations are too cheap. There are plenty of trained Americans for all the jobs, but there are not plenty of young hires for all the jobs.
Corporations need to hire the young ones and pay for their training the way they used to instead of just looking at their bottom lines. If the only way they can stay in business is to hire the cheapest option, they should go out of business.
Also, when you hire the least capable person to address a complex problem, you end up paying for it multiple times – once to get it done wrong and once to get it fixed and usually a third time to get it done right.
Boeing is an example of what happens when management cares more about stock price and executive bonuses than the quality of the product they sell.
“. . . the question is what happened to the movement and why isn’t Trump governing according to its principles?”
Nothing happed to the movement….it is still there…..Trump recognized it, agreed with it, ran, and won. He did not gain ‘Absolute Power’, as always, politix is not always done in a straightforward manner. To make peace, you make Deals….Pr. Trump knows how that works,,,,it is sometimes ugly, but in the end Good happens. Keep praying.
Who convinced Trump to follow the neocon foreign policy he ran against so effectively?
I’ve watched foreign policy since LBJ, and Pr. Trump is not doing the neocon.
Who convinced Trump that it is MAGA to replace American STEM and tech workers with Indians?
Again you need to look deeper into what may come of what he has done.
hat we should try to save America’s rotten Left institutions of “higher learning” by importing half a million Chinese spies?
Those ‘Spies’ were already coming, and maybe he decided to fight a winning battle.
Who convinced Trump he should let Marco Rubio pursue unprovoked regime change in Venezuela and Cuba?
I believe Pr. Trump is talking to both Mr. Putin and Zi, and others.
I understand that acknowledging the need to ask and answer these questions is itself bitterly disappointing. But if MAGA as a principled movement has a future, we must.
We have had this difficulty since the fall, but that will be fully corrected in His Fathers timing…..keep praying.
Precisely. My reply above to this poster did not afford him any evidence-based refutations as did your gracious response for the simple reason that he did not state any evidence-based claims. He just ‘said stuff’ …kinda like a troll or a propa-bot does. 🤔
MAGA is a movement. Review the policy strategy and economic documents the White House recently posted. You can also learn more about them in some of the Promethean Action videos.
President Trump is the opposite of a neocon. If you read his policy strategy document, you will find the point made over and over that we now make decisions based on our national interests.
For example, Venezuela sending dope, trafficking, and trying to disrupt our country with sending in violent ganga is not in our interests. Further, China gaining a foothold in this hemisphere via V. Is not in our interest. Secretary Rubio is addressing all these problems.
In my mind the visas are still an issue. Part of the issue involves the big picture. For example big tech wants cheap help. Universities have built their business models based on foreign tuition. New manufacturing start ups need skilled workers to teach American staff (example ship building).
I’m waiting to see how these various visa-related issues play out. Meanwhile I applaud President Trump for trying to further our interests versus making decisions to further the globalists, which is what other recent presidents did.
Gratitude is an amazing thing. Maybe you need to start realizing what you owe President Trump. Start by imagining we have a dem president right now. That should shake you up.
We can’t repay the debt we owe our President, but people can become a bit less negative by looking to understand the complexities involved. President Trump is not a king.
Thanks so much for bringing gratitude into the picture. This country barely survived Biden’s administration, it can not survive another Democrat administration intact. During Biden’s administration, Pelosi held the reins of the House. The Democrat party has split and the Pelosi/Clinton/Shumer influence will fade. The latest version is big on DEI, trans, gay and illegal immigration. That’s who will run the country if the Democrats win again. Trump has given us a breather, a basis for a return to normalcy, but it is not a sure thing that MAGA will have a successor who will and can continue his tenure. We owe him so much, whether his policies continue or not.
It is up to us to take back our country from the illegals, the trannies and the rest of the DEI. It is also up to us to keep a strong national military from becoming the battering ram for the tech oligarchs, the Israeli’s, Lindsey, McCain’s ghost, etc. True freedom requires a framework of strength, domestically and abroad.
Much of what you say is emotionally based, and therefor irrational. I will grant you that some of what you expected had been dropped upon the campaign trail like sparkling fairy godmother wishes and ice cream dishes. But…
once you are inside the boat and given the up-to-the-moment situational reports and data, things may change as decisions must necessarily be made based upon that data. Not based on emotions or expectations. Or even what is “right” vs. what is “wrong.”
Sometimes, probably more frequently than we’d ever like to admit, you have to just do what you judge to be “the best possible” given the realities of the hour and the day, and the times you are in.
I largely trust PDJT to do just that.
MAGA is a business and economics heavy philosophy. H1B1’s fall under that philosophy.
The American-first philosophy is different from MAGA. Sometimes they overlap, sometimes not.
What are the odds the consultant-class has moved on from DeSantis and instead started whispering in Marjorie Taylor Greene’s ear?
She seems to be a fit for their “MAGA but not Trump” target brand-image. She has a good resume of taking fiscally and socially conservative stands on issues. She has now cemented her image as independent of President Trump. She has good name recognition. She adds the female card. She has better communication skills than DeSantis.
There are no proven scandals in her closet. But there are plenty of rumors. That might make her controllable. She does have a rage problem.
She might present herself as a more appealing/relatable candidate than what DeSantis or Nikki Haley couldn’t be.
2028 will be here before you know it.
I won’t support her but if she can win the Georgia Governors race, she will definitely run for President in ’28.
My opinion only. MTG is a loud mouthed, fast talking opportunist. She enjoys the limelight and she’s proving she’ll serve any master to stay in it. President Trump gave her good advice and she ignored it and pitched a tantrum. No one will remember her name in 5 years.
She needs to be investigated for the millions of dollars she has accumulated while in Congress.
I too think she picked up funding outside of her MAGA brand. Time will tell. I much prefer DeSantis to MTG. She is too volatile and her reasoning is not as good as she thinks it is. She tends to view issues too narrowly. DeSantis is much better on reasoning.
She’s also shoring up her media connections courtesy of recently announced fiancee Brian Glenn of Real America’s Voice.
https://nypost.com/2025/12/15/us-news/marjorie-taylor-green-gets-engaged-to-white-house-reporter-ahead-of-exit-from-congress/
Definitely perceived that she had the Presidency in her sights during her recent divorce from Trump but it’s amazing how many people really don’t care for her and only tolerated her. Won’t happen.
“I see the efforts to divide the MAGA base are in full swing.” This includes the people who are ripping MTG for timing her exit right after her pension kicks in.
I gotta say this is not a negative and anyone who criticizes her for it likely hasn’t worked in corporate America where most everybody times their resignation with an eye toward healthcare benefits, vacation pay, annual raises, bonus, weather, seasons, and of course pensions. MTG also gave a reasonable one month notice to her employer.
Anyone who is that close to a vested pension would be really stupid to quit right before they get it!
Well put !
Not well put. Congress was designed to be a public service role. Not a job or career.
Bad analogy!
She should have kept her seat until the 2026 election. I see that choice as unforgivable in political terms.
Yes, except she is supposed to represent the people who put her there. Furthermore, she knew leaving congress entirely would make things harder for President Trump. She didn’t get what she wanted from Trump so she decided to screw over the American people as well as stick it to Trump. Also five years of service is nothing and deserves nothing.
The Uni-Party is trying to start a real Civil War, not the faux civil war we are watching.
Aye, such an conflict would rationalize the totalitarian measures that they would want to implement quicker.
There is no room in the Republican Party for anti-Semites. Tucker, Candace, MTG and Nick Fuentes should just join the Democrats where they belong.
Please…
..and LGW…never ever get it……
sejmon, totally agree! They may not know much but they all know the same thing.
I highly doubt this was ever uttered by Einstein…and IF anything like this was expressed, it was likely as a canard in order to gain govt. sympathies for his expedited immigration into the U.S.
Jesus chose to be born a Jew. He was raised in a Jewish family. The Lord went first to the Jews, then to the gentiles.
The Lord does not hate. He will only harden hearts.
And so I pray for the melting season.
Jesus is still the King of Israel, although He has yet to sit on David’s throne as promised in scripture.
Here is a link, in context and not manipulated as was supra:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AIHgK-p6mhgC&lpg=PA308&dq=%22Jewish%20group%20has%20thrived%20on%20oppression%22&pg=PA306#v=onepage&q=%22is%20nothing%22&f=false
Another of Einstein’s quotes, in better context: “We have no other means of self-defense than our solidarity,” wrote physicist Albert Einstein in a letter to a NY Jewish philanthropist in June 1939, to express gratitude for his help to Jewish refugees who had managed to escape from the Nazis shortly before the outbreak of World War II.
And in his own handwriting: Einstein wrote in the handwritten letter: “A tremendous degree of antisemitism exists here, especially in academia (though also in industry and banking).” The Nobel laureate elaborated: “Mind you, it never takes the form of brutal speech or action, but simmers all the more intensely under the surface. It is, so to speak, an omnipresent enemy, one that is impossible to see, and whose presence you only perceive.”
https://antisemitism.org/a-tremendous-degree-of-antisemitism-exists-here-wrote-albert-einstein-about-american-academia-in-rare-letter-being-put-up-for-auction
Interesting support above for a statement twisted and taken out of context, and readily located.
Kind of like islam and islamophobia. Sidenote, islamophobia is a nonsensical word that should be banned. There is nothiing irrational about opposing a group of people who advocate killing you.
What’s the word for a someone who is anti Christian?
Why do you use a fake, cobbled-together quote from Albert Einstein (with the none too subtle use of ellipses – linking the first three statements, which are themselve 8 paragraphs apart in the original article, to a completely non-existent, fraudulent final statement)? You obviously haven’t read the presumed source of the Einstein article (Colliers Magazine, Nov. 26, 1938), Instead you leave one with the obvious conclusion that you are parroting a fake quote touted around the blogosphere by many Jew haters. If you hate Jews, you don’t have to make up quotes – just come out and say it. Of course, I would sincerely disagree with your antisemitism, but it’s your right – and responsibility – to declare yourself in an honest manner. It’s ‘Dropping the pilot’ time for Herr Bismarck.
That quote is not correctly attributed to Albert Einstein. There is no reliable source showing Einstein ever wrote or said the text in the image in any of his published writings or documented speeches.
It is just another case of malicious misattribution.
I don’t recall the word “solidarity” being in common usage until after Lech Walesa became world renowned for his Solidarity Movement. During those times I would see an ever changing mural about Poland every time I drove into Manhattan. I wish there was a record of it somewhere because I remember the daffodils painted when relations began to thaw and he was freed from prison. I don’t necessarily agree with politics mixed with art but that billboard was like music or math – no language needed.
You really need to educate yourself. Another clapping monkey.
https://x.com/WinterRewind/status/1796490446228656272/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1796490446228656272¤tTweetUser=WinterRewind
Minute 17
The Europeans lost.
Give it up. Not gonna work, because the rollout of the psy ops inoculation to the key audience is well under way now, and has been steaming along for ten years.
Team US is just wrapping up now, finishing with the Scofield Bible deception.
Saving Israel (psy ops) for last.
We have arrived.
Yes, Fuentes and Owens answer to the same paymaster. We see the op. Two wings, same bird.
Why is POTUS always 5 steps ahead?
At around 19 minutes the panel briefly discusses Kellogg and his ‘retirement’.
Alex, do you have a link or good title or something to share so’s I can find the 28 point plan?
Thanks for the great share.
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A very devisive statement…..did some one ask you to present it.
Pat Buchanan: Hold my beer.
I was there with you every step of the way, Sundance, and the first thing I thought when reading of MTG’s abandoning her commitment to the people of Georgia, whom she says she “loves,” was Sea Island.
Hhhmmm, Sea Island, Georgia.
At this point in time all I see is socialists within every and all political parties.
They are purposeful in their planning, and they, like the heathen Muslims, don’t mind working slowly and deliberately to undermine the foundation upon which our country was formed.
MTG was probably whooed into running for congress 6 years ago, and then given all kinds of money and support to ensure she won.
She didn’t do spit to get into congress, but she likes to pretend everything is all about her.
And now, MTG has once again been whooed, but this time it is to ensure she jumps off the fast moving train she started on fire.
MAGA base seems fine. It is consistent in its goals and expectations. Its the top that’s fracturing.
Brian Cates presents his SPOT ON perspectives on the fake MAGA (Con, Inc.) RINO psyop trying to split Trump’s voter base. This supports Sundance’s theme in the featured article atop this page. Brian offers some unique insights since he has been an astute observer of internecine Republican factional political battles for several years.
Video is pre=prompted to 32:12 where the episode actually begins. Adjust your sound because Brian has a natural slight speech impediment and a not-so-great microphone + recorder. Also note that there is some occasional salty language.
https://www.youtube.com/live/_rrAdR5wiOc?si=s9rRWmbKzFIdZV3M&t=1932
Love Brian. I don’t know that it is so much a speech impediment as that he’s deaf from birth, so that’s just how he speaks.
Boy howdy, those are some sweet KAG Drogo paintings on his wall, and I looooove his hat. I wonder where he got that hat? All I want for Christmas is that hat.
Brian is an incredibly smart guy, along with his brother Duane.
And he is right about the pivot, and the timing of the pivot.
Thanks to everyone who crowd sourced him way back when so he could stop delivering newspapers and spend a year writing about these matters. Sometimes good people get together and do good things.
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Exactly what I’m seeing.
When you can, please explain who owns MTG – WTH is going on?
I at first figured some political consultants got a hold of her and made her go crazy. I’ve heard (don’t know if it’s true) she wants to run for Senate, asked Trump for his endorsement, and he refused – told her she can’t win and we need a winner.
It could also be that she has just had enough of all the crap that many here describe. Isn’t it possible she originally decided to try to change things and now accepts what many here say, that Washington will never change? If I was in DC and read CTH, I might think it was hopeless too.
MTG doesn’t strike me as someone who gives up that easily nor does she seem that naive.
We’ll see… I think something else is going on. Time will tell.
the fact that she is $30 million richer in 5 yrs makes the “who owns her” question valid
Side note…
Out of the blue, yesterday, Mittens was back in the news, so to speak. He was in an article pushing the Social Security/Medicare fear porn I had posted a link to the article, I think it was from BB. The usual…increasing the age of retirement and the system will go away or seriously reduce benefits in 2034.
During the 45 Admin, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during the meeting that Romney had with PDJT, I think it was about the Secretary of State position back then…
Can we just flush all the current idiots who spend time talking about themselves and other podcasters down the toilet and give some new ones an opportunity to provide us with relevant and interesting content?
Interesting speech by Bannon.
This may be the first time anyone has explained “Greater Israel” to a large audience, and he does take Shapiro to the _$$ whooping shed as a hard anti-Trumper and definitely not America First. I just do not know whether this is the equivalent of burning as asset but continuing to fight the long war.
Telling Israel to go for it on invading Syria if only they leave us out of it sure doesn’t sound correct, and downplaying Meghan Kelly’s debate attack is just some kind of pretending.
In any event, Bannon is as hard to pin down as Carlson, but the educational component of highlighting the goals of the expansionist wing of DS Israel is new.
Maybe this shaming of Shapiro is because they know they lost the gambit, and Netanyahu already works for Trump, so might as well sacrifice the most obvious Israel Firster:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/middleeast/israel-gas-deal-egypt-latam-intl
Look at those Israelis and Egyptians playing nice in the sandbox.
Give them a Trumpian pat on the head, y’all.
Years ago Shapiro showed some promise when he debated leftist students on topics like, crime in democrat run cities, incarceration disparities amongst different racial groups, etc. At the time he was quick on his feet, and had an excellent command of the various stats. Some would say he was a master debater, but it turned out that he was just a talented wanker.
PDJT announced his candidacy, won, and little precocious Ben lost his mind, became sour, and sulky.
I specifically remember the period around the time PDJT moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Shapiro could barely get himself to acknowledge the magnitude of it, even thought most of the Jewish world were extremely appreciative. Some of DJTs regular critics even gave him credit for it.
Stopped paying attention to anything he had to say after that.
I left Daily Wire several years ago also. Shapiro was getting inside info from Charlotte Pence and another former WH staffer from the Bush times (cannot recall name now), and he trusted them. Owens was the worst of the idiocy. Later, Shapiro changed staff and also tenor about Trump.
Listening again to the Carlson/Fuentes interview. Fuentes insults Kassy Dillon by name because of things she allegedly did while working at DW specifically in early 2017: Dillon was hired at DW in 2018 – obvious lies. Carlson also insults conservative / traditional religion (“Christian heresy”, “brain virus”).
Shapiro was selected as second speaker for a reason.
It’s great that Bannon called out Shapiro for trying to elbow his (Shapiro’s) way into TPUSA because it’s true and most people including TPUSA are afraid to say it.
Shapiro is not good for TPUSA and he’s not good for MAGA/America First.
Talk about trying to create divisiveness?
‘Divisiveness’ is Ben Shapiro’s middle name.
Shapiro would throw TPUSA and/or America under a bus in one second flat if he thought it would make him a nickel or gain him one ounce of popularity.
Whether people agree or disagree about Israel, MAGA/America First will still function as a cohesive unit, we have to believe that.
We as individuals are not -NOT- required to take a side as if we were participating in a spectator sport and risk sacrificing our movement because the DS wants to tear us apart.
It’s as simple as that.
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There are rumblings that Netanyahu wants President Trump to bomb Iran again. I personally think he is purposefully antagonizing the MAGA movement because he sees a crack in the movement’s unity over Israel.
IMO: Netanyahu needs to decimate MAGA to keep the neocons happy. He needs the funding that he fears he might to lose. He has no interest in peace. Enter Shapiro and Fuentes to stir the pot.
I do hope that President Trump does not fall for it.
All roads lead to Langley.
From there you need a boat.
And a cab to 10 Downing Street
https://rumble.com/v738wxa-styx-come-sail-away.html?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v5_sa_o%2Csrc_v1_ucp_f
Midterms will show whether or not the American voter will continue to support MAGA and America’s future. Lots of prayer needed for this one, again.
“The billionaires in finance and tech are set; their influence operation only varies slightly depending on the challenge, because they know they can purchase every horse in the race, and they are working earnestly through various iterations of the same owner playbook, with the end goal the same – control.” – Sundance
Who will represent us We The MAGA People after President Trump? Can only a billionaire like America First President Trump represent us? So all the Republican horses will be ridden not by us but by a some other billionaire? How discouraging! Looks like a return to the Uniparty and status quo for all Four Branches is inevitable in 2028? JMO
People listen to NF because he is a true outsider and calls out everyone’s grifts and isn’t playing for Anybody’s team but Heritage America. Was he boosted for ulterior motives? Probably.
But it’s already happened and you can’t put the genie back in the bottle.
Does any other influencer exist that calls out BOTH Muslim and Jewish influence? Does that influencer call out both the Muslim takeover and Jewish Supremacy? Nope. Not one. And that’s why he can have the best takes on exposing Loomer, Levin, Shapiro, Massie, MTG, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson’s grifts.
The “horses” in the article are one in the same in many Conservatives mind- including mine. They all lead to the same thing. And that’s why the push remains for a 2028 “darkhorse” that has not announced and has been hiding their power. Trump was the first step and the fight continues.
NF ?
Nick Fuentes…
They are bad guys who want to get their snouts back into the trough, plain and simple.
Those predicting the end of MAGA, which is a mere slogan, apparently underestimate the appeal and support of the AFPI’s America First agenda and its components.
AFPI? what’s that?
Sundance is touching some nerves again … I’m getting “UNSAFE SITE” popups every time I launch TCTH.
Sounds like scary adverts trying to sell you some antivirus software or other. Those third party ads and popups are served to you via your internet service provider and have next to nothing to do with the administration of TCTH itself.
An ad blocking add-on to your internet browser can mitigate a lot of that.
Ad Blocker Plus
What’s goin on? The article is tagged 20 December 2025 but all the comments are tagged 22 November 2025! ??
It is a “BUMPED” article….
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While Charlie Kirk and TPUSA endorsed Vance, I like Marco more to be the heir. Like Trump says…Vance – Rubio or Rubio – Vance will be electric and would win.
And yes, Pence did wrong in Indiana redistricting.
Who masterminded Charlie’s death?
Charlie Kirk himself never endorsed JD Vance for president/2028.
Erika on behalf of the TPUSA crew endorsed JD for president/2028 on Dec 18, 2025.
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Beyond outstanding, Sundance!
I will say this upfront, and yes — I am serious. IF you have not financially supported the brilliant mind of Sundance before — please do it now. WE need Sundance to keep going.
No one else has the conceptual grasp of what is happening. There really is no one else.
Please do not be distracted. Stay focused. Recognize all of the traps that are being laid before you.
Also, you may need to take a break while reading this latest expose’. For me, it was the description of Casey DeSantis. That was hysterical. Took a break — laughed — back to the article with a more serious frame of mind.
On a personal note, I am absolutely loving the ‘horse’ analogies. They absolute work superbly!
My mare (Ginger) is as much a part of me, as I am of her — and — until death do we part.
from Sundance in linked addendum:
Donald Trump is not a problem for the Republican Party; Donald Trump is our response to the problem within the Republican Party.
When you know, you know.
They can fracture the hell out of themselves. I am with Trump because I have a memory and know how shitty everyone else was.
AMEN!!!!
Well said. Thank you.
Amen, MAGA Brother!
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“Make America Great Again” must not be seen as: “An Acronym on a Red Hat.” This cannot be a repeat of “Tea Party.” It must be more than that.
Trump said as much in the National Security Policy. Namely, that every nation must always strive to put itself “first.” Without this assumed position, “negotiation” can never succeed.
We can also see these “negotiation” principles at work, in many areas of the globe and at the same time. When you read it in the text of the National Security Policy, it sounds like a page out of “The Art of the Deal.” It’s simple, it’s obvious, it states America’s position “first,” and yet it does not exclude the realization that every other country should be simultaneously pursuing the same ends. “Okay, let’s talk.”
Likewise: the national State policy of trying to become the change-agent that brings other nations . . . together.
If the Nobel Committee can’t get its act together, after witnessing all of this, then maybe we need to create a Peace Prize of our own.
Regarding the Mid Terms we are losing Independents and under 40 voters. That is going to especially hurt in Swing Districts and States. MAGA America First needs these voters.
To me Vance is a chameleon in politics and philosophy. Today’s face will change tomorrow.
Also, he is an influence agent for India.
Vance can’t hold the MAGA coalition together so we will be back to swamp dynamics in the election.
Lastly, he will be boot stomped by Congress, the deep state, the media, and the courts. The only positive thing in his favor is Trump and the Supreme Court will have a final decision on the primacy of the President to control the executive branch and immigration by 2028. That will help a light-weight like Vance to do some good.
Rubio is my guy but has strangely bowed out while Vance is in the race.
This is only one incident happening, its a civil war eruption for control over the social media within the MAGA movement.
MAGA infighting erupts at Turning Point USA Conference
Two of the night’s headliners — Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson — threw jabs at each other in their speeches.
So yes, look what happens without Charlie
They killed him and they succeeded
The right is becoming fractured trash
btw when this sign goes up I usually stay out of it… 😛
Well that’s what “they’re” trying to do!
See the danger, avoid the danger…..that is Sundance’s message.
Tim Pool may be fractured trash but let’s keep our MAGA eyes open and the forgotten man may yet win out.
I am referring to Sundance posting of this statement…
What follows below is a review that might help people understand what exactly is behind the various pressure narratives we see being introduced into this narrative operation. The remarks toward Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, various iterations of Qatar vs Israel as espoused by voices like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, the claims of antisemitism shouted against any voice that doesn’t put the interests of the current Israeli administration at the forefront, and the various alignments therein.
dogsmaw -“control of social media within MAGA”
…should I let the dogs loose?
Why in the world would you quote Politico and Tim the Tool/Fool Pool?
As if either were an authority on everything MAGA?
“Ben Shapiro hijacked Charlie Kirk’s TPUSA AmFest event and turned a movement built on questioning into a bitchfest about what questions are forbidden, who can speak, and which “truths” are permitted—as long as they stay inside the lines they draw.
Unapologetic narrative control.”
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IMHO Brian Cates has accurately summarized what we have been witnessing since 2016….. but LARGELY since January 21 of this year. Please read carefully and connect the dots along the way…. This message was communicated in the “Q drops” from 2018 forward, a source that many (incl. myself for awhile) rejected as BS because it was too cryptic and suggested a timeline that was imminent instead of 5 or more years into the future.
Present hindsight tells us that, like any battle plan, the White Hats’ timeline was pushed back because of strong resistance from the globalists (2020 bioweapon release + govt. psyop messaging & false flag riots /actions + general election fraud).
The battle was rejoined after the successful 2024 re-election of President Trump and appointment of MAGA Cabinet & staff.
Logic says if there was a “plan” things would be going more smoothly by now. We have to agree to disagree GB and I never trusted Sessions either.
Monti I think it’s extremely naive to believe that President Trump and maybe 20 to 50 closely aligned supporters in lead government positions could have significantly changed more of the combined Leftwing-controlled state and federal bureaucracy 10 months into this term than has actually been achieved.
The scale of domestic and global resistance has been immense and the President STILL does not have any majority support in either chamber of Congress nor in the majority of Article III courts.
The task that the president and MAGA-aligned state and federal politicians and administrative officials must accomplish in order to eliminate the globalist totalitarians from controlling is beyond the scale that most people can even imagine.
I believe that although #47’s Administration has accomplished an astonishing number of successes, at least 95% of the problems remain but are in the President‘s plan.
GB, I can’t read the whole of the post via the link, but I can get a flavor of it, and the answer is yes. IMHO
Also, by its own description, the timeline in the Q drops was 8 years. Yes, there was an intentionally cryptic kind of misleading of a idea of imminent action – for example, most people took “done in 30” as meaning 30 days, when it turned out to be 30 months.
Why the misdirection?
One thought:
Learning patience and long timelines doesn’t come naturally to us Americans. A communication that says something like “Good on holding the line. Now hold it that long again, but times 1,000” hits very hard, like a punch in the gut, when all you can see at that moment is that your election was stolen, your country is being poisoned, and the gulags are going up and it’s likely that your personal destination is liquidation.
We don’t grow up with decades long timelines in our heads. Battle hardening starts with rearranging the mental furniture to a vision of dealing with long, long timelines.
Again, because “hold the line x 1,000” pretty much garners “AYFKM?” as the initial reaction, when you had hoped everything would be set right (elections wise at least) in just a few months or less.
An 8 year timeline brings us to 2025.
Which is not quite #America250 but close, and it is even closer to the presentation of the US flag (symbolic of they captured back the flag) to POTUS during the celebration of the birthday of the Army (which, if 4POG really was running that show, would be more than a little point of pride at that moment, wouldn’t it? The flag presentation would also have resonated with the 4POG “symbol speak” frequency).
So that jives.
Some are expecting the first half of 2026 to bring about the final financial battle that will end the central bankster control of much of the world, and also end the federal reserve note as a currency in its present form. That also jives.
Look at what is happening very steadily with gold and silver over 2025, as well as Georgia Meloni’s demand for Italy’s gold and her assertion that the shareholders of foreign banks have no claim on or right to Italy’s sovereign wealth (its gold).
There are a lot of moving parts in the world geopolitical event clock, but if you watch closely, you can see the gears shifting to open some very large doors.
Perhaps.
I’ve learned to never jump at dates, or timelines. I guess it is a sign of either exhaustion or being jaded that when POTUS truthed out his announcement of his national address to occur on the 17th, and by beginning with the words “My fellow Americans”, my main reaction was
“stop being a tease.”
I guess the $1,776 signal was good signal (American Revolution 2.0, we are at war for our independence and the most important people right now are our armed forces). So, yeah. I get that. And it’s true. It all comes down to our armed forces remembering their oath when the seditionists come calling.
Still. Maybe stop being a tease.
Held the line, okay? Still holding, but, man – are we there yet?
OK, Whining moment over.
“Rome wasn’t built in a day.”
Many parts of western North Carolina are still awaiting rebuilding after the devastating floods from Hurricane Helene. The same delays are occurring in La Haina HI from the catastrophic fires of several years ago. Many parts of Europe were not rebuilt for many decades after WWII.
And all of those are simply physical reconstruction projects. What President Trump agreed to take on is reversing the 110+ year long progressive complete takeover of federal, state, and many local and municipal governments by increasingly radical Leftwing ideological opponents of a constitutional democratic federal republic we call the United States of America.
Id say that most whining of “not fast enough” and “could have / should have / would have” are unwarranted and indicative of a significant lack of awareness of the complexity, scope, and amount of hurdles that contribute to the seemingly slow pace of progress of “draining the swamp” and clearing away the extensive webs of corruption that run throughout multiple institutions across our country and culture.
We all see the failures of Republicans in joining sufficient forces to pass meaningful legislation that would stop or reduce fraud and corrupt practices of governments, nongovernmental organizations, academic institutions, and private companies. It takes time to wade through corrupt courts to expose and remedy the problems. And the public still does not read extensively enough to grasp the truth in too many major issues.
So I’m not moved by most complaints. I’ve been there and then got awakened by reading well beyond the popular sources of news and related information. And that awakening continues as more and more information becomes available via persistent researchers who publish their findings online. I recommend Treehouse members expand their information gathering beyond this blog, despite Sundance’s excellent research and intuitive analyses. He cannot touch every subject out there and analyze it as thoroughly as he does with the political and economic issues that have been so well reported here.
Yes next year may prove even more interesting than this year. But the battle space is a dynamic one, so outcomes are not guaranteed.
Trump is my north star.
“I see the efforts to divide the MAGA base continue.
I remind everyone to be prudent in your discernment of who is antagonizing, what topics and processes they are using, and ultimately who benefits from it.
Remember, “there are trillions at stake!”
This nonsense battle of “influencers” and “podcasters” is, well, just gross”.
– Sundance
Yes it is gross! Propaganda is gross because at rock bottom its a lie. We don’t need anyone to think for us if we learn to think clearly and logically. President Trump blew away years of carefully constructed lies in the 2015 primaries.
What to really watch out for is the Remora clingers who are parasites clamped to the America First movement. President Trump is the Great White Shark clearing away decades of decay…….follow his lead and ignore the parasitic pod castors and influence agents.
Appreciate this addition to the deep dive; so much going on, so much to keep track of, this refresher is huge and timely.
This article was prophetic. Sundance must have a crystal ball.
I do not think the Israel First amen corner is an wedge issue. It is at the center of the forever wars.
The conceptualization needs adjustment. Trump has the resources and backbone to be his own “horse”. None of the others have such resources. Their backbone will be sorely tested. The question is which horse will be Trump’s horse? That’s the only one to back. There are many excellent cabinet members and I think it’s an apprentice-style audition for 2028.
After a few adult beverages reading the above,i said to no one this sounds familiar,great refresher Sundance.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/netanyahu-plans-brief-trump-possible-new-iran-strikes-rcna250112
This is the Netanyahu reference I wrote about in post above.
I don’t care about this well produced War of Influencers, who said what, to whom, or on which podcast…
Yes, Owens is an attention-seeking person of questionable character. Yes, Tucker is an unprincipled, untrustworthy individual who seems eerily comfortable with Sharia and Islamism, which is remarkable for a self-professed Christian and American. Kelly is no different. I still remember her going after then–presidential candidate Donald J. Trump during the Fox News debate in 2016. Bannon was a member of the first Trump administration and blew it because he was totally unhinged. All he does is whip up the credulous folks into a frothing-at-the-mouth frenzy with his simplistic slogans. He doesn’t offer any solutions or strategies, just like the rest of these conservative influencers. And Fuentes doesn’t even merit discussion.
What matters isn’t their personas and oversized egos. It’s what none of them is willing to talk about:
None of them addresses the inability, or unwillingness, of this administration to reform the DOJ and the FBI. There’s been no serious effort to hold accountable a treasonous group of conspirators who ran rogue operations inside the national security apparatus. If such an effort ever existed, it has clearly failed.
None of them addresses the conduct of FBI Director Patel, his refusal to clean house, or his insistence on publicly portraying the FBI rank and file as “good cops” and “good people.”
None of them addresses the ongoing judicial insurrection. And this is especially telling given that many of them are lawyers. Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelly, among others, never offer a coherent legal or strategic framework for dealing with rogue judges who openly sabotage executive authority and constitutional order.
None of them seriously addresses the Second Amendment. Despite being one of the most fundamental rights, it remains under constant attack, including by a self-professed pro–Second Amendment administration that continues to defend the National Firearms Act. Silence here isn’t accidental.
Finally, none of them addresses the DOJ’s systematic stonewalling of conservative watchdog organizations like Judicial Watch on matters where no legitimate justification exists.
This pattern isn’t coincidence. It’s how I know this is fraud. These people aren’t leading. They’re managing attention. And they’re doing it to distract from all the issues that actually matter.
Brilliant! Thank You Ray Bach. I think you’re absolutely right ~ Well Done!
The so called MAGA fracture is a fracture inside the brain of Donald Trump. He campaigned against foreign wars, and governed that way in his first term. The second term is an absolute train wreck. Nothing but foreign wars everywhere all the time. Obviously, the neocons, who are Jewish Trotskyites, have absurdly inordinate influence over Trump, which is causing the civil war throughout his movement between those like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin, who applaud the Jewish control over this administration, and those like Tucker Carlson and to a lesser extent Steve Bannon, who are horrified by it.
Very interesting read, at least the Israel vs Qatar stuff. That, I think, is something we all need a good handle on, because it’s been easy to fall in line with the “Israel can do no wrong” thinking, but on the other hand, the people driving hardest in the other direction are fostering attitudes and even outright saying things that are quite awful. Things like, speaking of Jordan Peterson, saying “he took the Jew money.” Things like taking off on a tangent to generate negative hype about someone Jewish, no matter the topic.
The level of influence the state of Israel has on the US is a matter for significant concern, but to my mind, not as much as the rise in virulant antisemitism. What I wish the voices I still consider trustworthy who are highly critial of Israel would be more careful of is language that suggests there’s something uniquely awful about the things Israel is doing. That definitely feeds into the hands of some very sinister people. By the same token, I really want to know more about how Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens (the former has always been a “anything for attention” agitator,;the latter had just gone off the deep end for some reason) are being boosted. I also want to know where and how the state of Israel is buying influence (I’ve given up on the insufferable Mark Levin; can’t say if he’s bought, or just says the things he does because he really does have divided loyalties).
At the end of the day, I think a lot of this would go away if we could just follow the money train – and I agree it’s being played up to divide and conquer the conservative movement. I know some “Israel can do no wrong” types, but what’s been strange is how people who I would say were of the same mind as me a couple years ago are suddenly posting “THE JEWS! THEY’RE EVERYWHERE! THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING!” type comments and memes. It’s no better than being blindly pro-Israel, and in many cases, it’s as if some people can’t break free of that position without rushing headlong into places I wouldn’t dare tread. Which tells me there’s a vein of very toxic stuff that states like Qatar have managed to push out and legitimize – and meanwhile, I’m just here pointing out that Israel is definitely no worse than its neighbors, and we can be allies to the extent that it’s in our interest.
Agree. Thank You for your thoughtful response to this essay from Sundance.
LOL, people I have never watched or followed fighting over the maga base?
Do they think we’re all stupid?
Fock the whole lot of them.
They are a sad and grotesque side show at best. ALL OF THEM.
I’m glad this is being bumped up. The fracture continues, as is evident at TPUSA where the anti-Israel/jews faction (Carlson, Owens and Bannon, etc) align against Ben Shapiro (Bannon calls him a cancer). Here’s what’s more interesting. The Christmas show from Froglegs no long indicates The Conservative Treehouse as a something they support. For the first time, I don’t see CTH anywhere in their program. But they support the Gateway Pundit….and if you read the Gateway Pundit and the comments on their articles, they are vociferously against ‘Israel’. Despite the shootings and attacks on Jews (even in the US) it is stated that’s because Jews are the problem. Just as Russia was an easy wedge some years ago, Jews and antisemitism appears to be the new bogeyman that is being used to divide MAGA.
The renewed media focus on antisemitism is not perchance.
“I beg you to note that among those making attacks upon us will also be organs established by us, but they will attack exclusively points that we have predetermined to alter.“ protocol12
This article fits with what I’ve notice. Who is the GOP/MAGA uni-party players?
I think all the “conservative” podcasters are uni-party. Why do I think that? I think that because no one is broken up by Charlie Kirk’s murder.
My younger brother died suddenly when I was 9y/o.
I’m 62 and if I think about him I will still cry.
Yet, Tucker, Candace, Megan and the lot can talk about Charlie for hours and not choke up. Why? Are they psychopaths? Was it fake and he’s really alive? Are they getting paid millions by the billionaire donor class to sway us so they don’t care what happened to their “friend”
Who are they ones lying to us?
And I don’t trust JD. He’s a bully, a bad Catholic and he’ll flood the country with his wife’s countrymen (don’t keep company with evil people, JD Solomon)
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
To me the ‘MAGA’ fracture is based on we voted for MAGA and we’re getting MIGA. The news cycle is dominated by Isreal every day and it’s constantly in our face how America owe’s everything to them and we must fall in line with them…it’s fatiguing, and the focus should be on America only. If Trump, the first Jewish president, can’t separate MAGA’s agenda from MIGA’s agenda….then is Trump really MAGA?