BUMPED: I see the efforts to divide the MAGA base continue. I remind everyone to be prudent in your discernment of who is antagonizing, what topics and processes they are using, and ultimately who benefits from it. Remember, “there are trillions at stake!” This nonsense battle of “influencers” and “podcasters” is, well, just gross.
On March 3rd through March 6th, 2016, the Republican presidential primary was at the precipice of a key inflection point (Super Tuesday) when a large group of political leadership, tech titans, bankers and political influence agents assembled at the AEI summit in Sea Island, Georgia.
Citation Here – Citation Here and Citation HERE (w/itinerary details)
In the decade that passed, you have seen me reference this Sea Island group frequently, because the origin of where we are today can only be understood if you followed the outcome of that 2016 Sea Island meeting and the decade of activity therein.
In 2016 the agenda of the group, though they gently denied it at the time, was to figure out a way to remove the disruption Donald Trump represented from the business model of DC politics. The Sea Island confab discussed how to stop him, or at the very least manage the potential damage he could deliver to the system – specifically, to the Republican wing of the UniParty apparatus.
Here in 2025, we are currently witnessing an outcome of activity from essentially the same group. For this phase, the intention is to fracture the baseline of support that underpins President Trump’s movement; what is reasonably called MAGA and the America-First movement.
What follows below is a review that might help people understand what exactly is behind the various pressure narratives we see being introduced into this narrative operation. The remarks toward Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, various iterations of Qatar vs Israel as espoused by voices like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, the claims of antisemitism shouted against any voice that doesn’t put the interests of the current Israeli administration at the forefront, and the various alignments therein.
In the biggest picture, this is not a battle against individual voices, but rather the positioning of interests to maintain the same objective that was discussed in the aforementioned Sea Island confab.
A few points are needed for context as this discussion enlarges. First, I am only 80% finished with the year-long tracking of the participants; however, due to multiple requests this is one of the few times I will outline something that is not yet fully developed. I have written about this activity before {SEE HERE} in 2023.
Second, this is not the first rodeo for this activity. After the Tea Party rose in 2010, we saw this same institutional response from almost identical participants to control the threat of a leaderless organic grassroots movement. President Obama, the DNC/RNC and the Republican power apparatus all opposed the Tea Party, as they do MAGA for exactly the same reason.
The need for control is a reaction to fear.
You might remember supporters of the various patriot or Tea Party grassroots organizations being targeted by the Obama DOJ and IRS. Simultaneously John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell labeled Tea Party supporters as political jihadists, extremists and hobbits. The targeting operations to isolate, ridicule and marginalize the movement was both a DNC and an RNC operation.
Republicans and Democrats worked together to eliminate the Tea Party, and Republicans were more than willing to lose elections to stop Tea Party supported candidates from winning. This is important to remember, because that type of activity both evidences the UniParty apparatus and the opposition to the modern iteration of the Tea Party in the larger MAGA voting base. In short, the DC professional political apparatus hates all versions of the same uncontrollable electorate regardless of label.
When they departed Sea Island, eventually the professional Republicans (GOPe) ended up settling on supporting Hillary Clinton, because Donald Trump could not be defeated within the confines of the party apparatus and became the presumptive nominee. The tech group from Sea Island was already part of the Hillary Clinton alignment, and the “political influence agents” also saw Hillary as the comfortable, predictable and non-disruptive candidate. The key underpinning all of them was “anyone but Trump.”
Hillary then walked toward November with party Democrats, party Republicans, tech, Silicon Valley and the never-Trump conservatives. However, Hillary encountered a major minus in the electorate when the Bernie Sanders group discovered the origin of the DNC control operation. Hillary Clinton gained the party Republicans, but Hillary Clinton lost a lot of Bernie voters; many of them went to Trump.
[NOTE: It’s a little funny, but the five-year-long RNC -vs- TP/MAGA fight is essentially what we are now watching within the other wing of the UniParty, the DNC wing. The grassroots left against the DNC professionals. The “progressives” or “socialist democrats” are taking Democrat scalps the same way the grassroots right took down Republicans. The old guard Democrats are quitting.]
All of this is said to frame the context for 2025, and the objectives of the political influence agents to break up the MAGA movement into smaller digestible pieces. The wedge issue is not accidentally Israel.
Israel has been selected as a wedge issue to divide MAGA, because Israel-First influencers viewed themselves in a vulnerable position. This too needs context.
♦ QATAR. All year long I have been watching the Qatar vs Israel battle surface on social media. At first it was a very odd dynamic to watch, because it did not make sense. Then a few things became more visible that made it evident why the U.S-Israel groups were concerned.
In the decade that preceded 2025, you cannot find too many examples of Qatar ever having a positive headline outside the praise from Barack Obama and Joe Biden. While Obama had always embraced Qatar (ex. bank for the Muslim Brotherhood), it was Joe Biden who labeled Qatar a major non-NATO ally. The Obama/Biden administration liked Qatar, the first Trump administration not so much.
Prior to 2025, Qatar had a history of bad influence operations, where “bad” is defined as them doing really bad things; like funding radical Islamic extremists (creating the Arab Spring), giving safe haven to the exiled Islamist Egyptian leadership, financing Al-Jazeera, shipping covert CIA/State Dept weapons to the al-Qaeda operatives in Libya and Syria, being the bankers for Iranian money, supporting Hamas leadership, etc.
In the first Trump term, President Trump confronted Qatar and told the Gulf Cooperation Council (Egypt, Bahrain, UAE and Saudi Arabia) to maintain pressure on Qatar. So, it was quite a reversal to see the second Trump term reverse course entirely and begin praising Qatar. However, if you think about the issue of the Israeli war in Gaza, and how that changed the landscape, things begin to take on a new context.
This new 2025 positive-Qatar vibe created anxiety for the pro-Israel elements inside the USA. It wasn’t a matter of direct policy that seemed to unnerve them, but rather a change in influence priority. Influence is a tenuous game of position.
In early 2025, Israel-first voices started to seem visibly worried their White House influence operation may be diminished by a positive Trump message toward Qatar. In my opinion, that influence fear was actually substantive, and yet part of an intentional Trump foreign policy agenda; akin to a soft brushback pitch against the U.S-Israel influence shop who had become very comfortable taking their Trump influence for granted.
Friendly messaging toward Qatar’s influence shop was viewed by U.S-Israeli voices as a betrayal. However, given the nature of the Trump transition team having former lobbyists for Qatar, the friendly messaging was understandable; however, x2, that set of facts didn’t make it palatable for the Israeli coalition. Ergo, an influence battle began very early in the Trump administration, and the internecine Qatar vs Israel issue was visible to those of us who watch things closely.
Keep in mind, historically within the GOPe apparatus, this was a lucrative financial tug-of-influence game. The neocon/intelligence wing (Bolton/McCain) had one foot in pro-Qatar and one foot in pro-Israel, with ¹both sides funding for influence and delivering affluence. So much so that their interests from a USA viewpoint were virtually indistinguishable, see Libya. Additionally, behind this financial set of motives, this confab of influence beneficiaries was/is the core of that Sea Island meeting.
[¹President Obama played this dynamic brilliantly to the benefit of his Muslim Brotherhood allies.]
♦ THE RACE – At this point in the analysis, it is worthwhile dropping the traditional viewpoint of U.S. politicians as “candidates” and start thinking about them in the more accurate term as “horses.” The horses race in the Kentucky Derby, but it is the owners who win the prize money.
When you view U.S. politicians as horses in the various races, we start to think more clearly about who their owners are. This is the key to understanding U.S political candidates.
You might be able to remember the name of the horse who won the Triple Crown, you might even remember the jockey who rode the horse, but less likely you remember who owned it. In U.S. politics, it’s the owners within the political races who control the horses not the horses who control the owners.
Donald J. Trump represented a serious threat to this dynamic. Trump is a horse who is also his owner; this is a major disruption in political sport.
The owners assembled in Sea Island, March 2016, to discuss this disruption.
By the time we get to 2020, the ‘anyone but Trump’ theme was clearly at play. The Intelligence Community assisted, Big Tech assisted, corporate media assisted, our ever-predictable Republicans were once again purposefully and willfully blind, and with mail-in ballots all the rage, Trump was all alone against the entire apparatus with only voters trying to offset the American political control operation. In the aftermath of the ridiculous outcome, all of the participants circled the wagons, and Nancy Pelosi provided the literal fence.
In 2021, the Big Tech sub-segment of the Sea Island confab then went full combat against MAGA elements, banning, deplatforming, demonetizing and removing any countervailing voices. Meanwhile, anyone associated with Trump was targeted by the collaborating government mechanisms, DOJ/FBI and the media once again ran cover.
In the 2023 version of ‘anyone but Trump,’ 43 billionaires together with an assist from Sea Island attendee, Elon Musk, tried to launch Ron DeSantis as a MAGA alternative. However, the Tea Party-hardened MAGA voters looked at their scars, and when they saw the $100 bill on a fishing line being dragged through the MAGA community, they refused to chase it.
By then, the 2016 Cruz Crew had switched to 2024 Alligator emojis, but even the “Evangelicals” with unlimited funding couldn’t fuel the DeSantis starship.
The Ron launch was as wobbly as DeSantis’ head during speaking engagements; and Casey wearing Melania’s heels, Duck Dynasty skinny pants and Sarah Palin’s ‘Grizzly Mama’ T-shirt couldn’t compensate.
What a hot mess.
The MAGA alternative was as structurally inauthentic as Ron’s boots, even with the lifts.
Hey, be thankful. No one has ever accused the Republican consultant class of accurately assessing the political landscape around them.
Their inauthenticity is what helps us to know who they are. It’s a net positive.
I would make the argument that if Ron’s owners had somehow pulled it off, Biden would have been yanked fast and replaced with Newsom, and we’d be looking at the “future in hindsight” right now.
♦ 2025 – That Sea Island crew doesn’t quit. The “anyone but Trump” operation is back in full swing despite the 2024 victory message.
Step #1 in the control process is to lose the 2026 election and put the Republican wing of the uniparty bird back into the minority. Again, this isolates our people’s president.
However, they can’t just lose 2026 and call it a day. They still need to manage the problem that President Trump represents for another three years. There are Trump policies to undermine, Trump executive orders to let sit non-legislatively supported, and all of this inaction must take place while Trump supporters are distracted with maximum shiny things.
This is where the “political influencers” come into play as mercenaries and advanced operative messengers for a very useful dynamic to emphasize – the operation that began as Qatar vs Israel.
Tucker Carlson representing the face of JD Vance’s support network becomes a target for Mark Levin et al. Candace Owens is labeled as the female face of Nick Fuentes, who, for some odd reason, is being algorithmically boosted by the same tech platforms that banned his account as an identified racist, extremist and antisemitic content producer.
This Fuentes boosting, again not coincidentally by the same elements who attended that 2016 Sea Island confab including Google, began in July 2025, about a month prior to TPUSA head Charlie Kirk telling his pro-Israel friends (billionaire Bill Ackman) that the content messaging on behalf of the Netanyahu government was backfiring amid Gen-Z. To wit, Netanyahu said, ‘not to worry’ my good friends of Israel, Larry Ellison and David Ellison, have things under control with TikTok, Twitter and Paramount. CBS’s Bari Weiss announced shortly thereafter.
While the inside White House influence game continues, all of these various 2025 interests again find their origin in Sea Island, Georgia, at the March 2016 AEI conference. Remember, think “owners” not “horses.”
♦ HORSES:
• Vice President JD Vance – Heir apparent to the MAGA endorsement of President Donald Trump. Groomed from the stable of billionaire influence agent and one time (no more) friend of President Trump, Peter Thiel. A more libertarian co-founder of Palantir, a skyrocketing AI software platform creator with billions in new federal contracts and likely more to come. Palantir CEO Alex Karp, a key industrialist applying the very best of AI creator systems to the merging targeting and identity tracking technology of the future.
Without Peter Thiel, there is no Senator JD Vance in 2022. Without Senator JD Vance there is no VP nominee in 2024. Oh, and despite their stealth separating in 2017, Elon Musk and Peter Thiel remain BFF influencers in 2025. And without Larry Ellison in 2022, there is no liquidity Musk to capture the Twitter Platform, which not coincidentally became a launch vehicle for the Ron effort shortly after Ellison said he would not allow Musk to fail.
So, where does that put JD Vance’s collar? Who knows? We’ll keep watching as Mr Ellison, having successfully moved beyond the X operation, now moves to the TikTok/Paramount phase while simultaneously owning the Oracle system operation that X utilizes.
• Secretary of State Marco Rubio – For the first time in his political career, Marco is in a position where he is not directly accountable to voters. Having risen through the Florida legislature, state house and on to a federal Senate seat representing Florida, for the first time Rubio is applying himself without any election worries. His constituent base consists of President Trump.
Rubio is seemingly giving the appearance of having turned Maverick, having fun poking back at his previous owners, while running amuck in the free-range of Trump’s well-manicured landscape. Is Rubio required to return to a previously designated stable? Again, who knows. It’s super fun to watch this new less groomed, yet well maintained, stallion running in the wild. However, his pedigree is as trained as a Lipizzaner stallion. Will he tire of the free-range? We’ll keep watching.
• Governor Ron DeSantis – The one constant political hot mess in an ever-consistent GOPe playbook.
You might say that DeSantis could never stand a chance given his failure to launch in 2024. However, do not underestimate the stupidity of the professional consultant class who have a way of convincing owners that horse can run.
Ron’s only problem is he needs very narrow blinders and can’t turn corners. Other than that, he’s solid in the straights when all the obstacles are removed and the track is groomed specifically for his platformed shoes.
The issue for Sea Island, with DeSantis, is that despite his extremely managed exteriors, and despite the massive amount of money spent on the influence operations and appearances, only a specific type of Jockey can fit that little saddle.
[I mean someone had to tell Casey what to wear in Iowa the last time, and, well, think about it…. They both looked in the mirror that morning and thought, “Awesome – this will get em’.” How’d that work out?]
SUMMARY: Underneath all of what we are visibly seeing and witnessing, especially the outrage du-jour, is an underlying political background that consistently tries to control outcomes through various methods. This effort to split the MAGA base, using Israel or (insert_next_thing_here) as a wedge issue within the America First movement – only benefits one larger apparatus, the Sea Island billionaire control system.
This billionaire control system, a public-private partnership, previously deconstructed and co-opted the Tea Party returning the system to status quo.
The billionaires in finance and tech are set; their influence operation only varies slightly depending on the challenge, because they know they can purchase every horse in the race, and they are working earnestly through various iterations of the same owner playbook, with the end goal the same – control.
Just reject it.
Live your best life and pray.
If you don’t think this is about the 2026 midterms you aren’t thinking….
Like all wars, they are deeply affected by both the smoke of battle and politics….
In either case you DRIVE through to the objective….
Don’t let either distract you from the objective….
It’s all an effort to do exactly that….
Rome wasn’t built in a day, and this war has been fought by one side for a long time…
It’s gonna take more than 4 years and one person to fix…
Trump showed us who the real enemy is…the camouflage has been removed…
They are in an open field….It’s up to US to fire for effect….with votes….
THAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE!
Echoing what Steve Bannon is saying on War Room …. Trump’s messaging on what he and his team are doing to reset the world trading system to America’s advantage is woefully inadequate. As is his communication concerning the reasons for the tariffs and the reasons behind his other economic policy stances.
Trump’s advisors and key senior people should be devoting lots of time and effort to getting the message out about what specifically they are doing for the American economy and why, while going over the heads of the MSM directly to the American people.
This has not been done in the way that it ought to be done, and is one among several reasons why the MAGA agenda is at great risk in the upcoming 2026 mid-terms.
If things don’t change, and soon, we will witness the Democrats regaining control of the Congress in January of 2027, with the effect that the MAGA agenda is stopped cold in its tracks.
Trump is doing many wonderful things but his messaging would need significant improvement to reach terrible. Come on Administration, you’re losing OUR chance to make America great.
A bumpy 24 hours what with PDJT Truth-Socialing against the 2nd GOP Rep who gets no AIPAC money, and Raheem Kassam alleging that Swampard Susie compelled RFKjr to tweet in her support; quite the weekend start. This will shake out, as ever.
Who is the 2nd GOP rep who gets no AIPAC money? Please do not post riddles. I – and I assume some others of us – cannot read your mind.
Fair enough: Massie and now MTG.
I am assuming they are talking Marjorie Taylor Green POTUS had lots to
say and not nice things about her today on Truth Social will not endorse her
etc..
You after Wiles again? Did she manage to make Bobbi do something this time even though your usual is she has the President under her heel?
Did you make up whatever it is you’re teasing about what Raheem said? Could you possibly give a link or did he whisper in your ear?
You seem to write like the journalists at the Daily Mail — same cryptic messaging aimed at ramping up clicks and yet in the end you give next to zero jnfo.
“Did you make up whatever it is you’re teasing about what Raheem said? Could you possibly give a link or did he whisper in your ear?”
https://x.com/RaheemKassam/status/1989498321178955922
Have a good day.
Kennedy’s tweet ways he doesn’t like the attempt at distraction caused by the attacks on Wiles. Unless the attackers can come up with specific instances, I agree with Kennedy.
And just who might be the owner that is running the horse called Stave Bannon??
I agree with this.
And what is making this all that much more critical is that we can all read and follow the news from all over the planet and see what is going on out there- so we’ve got a pretty good idea about what is bullshit and what is not.
The rise of Brics is a big deal.
The alliance of China and Russia is a big deal.
What is going to happen with Taiwan is another big deal..
I can go on and on here.
Donald Trump is doing amazing things YES, but this picture is not nearly as rosey as he likes to paint it.
So yeah, working the crowds and getting everyone onto the same page, remaining steely eyed and focused, this is what they need to be doing..and us too.
It seems as though each election is now more critical than the last one was.
At this point, we don’t even know for sure there will be a next one- who knows! and that is part of the problem too.
I was pretty shocked with the video of PT spritzing his cologne on al-Sharaa, laughing and bragging about it.
It’s a little thing but it was weird. The messaging was pretty bad.
dogsmaw aka Pirogue Louisiana really would love to help you build it and they will come 😛
Then candidate Donald J Trump destroys the Uniparty Republican frauds during the 2016 GOP Primaries. Cannot recommend this documentary enough.
Trump: The Art Of The Insult
to be more precise…
it’s good vs evvil
worldwide
simple, true
wholeheartedly disagree
the REAL battle is
good vs evvil
not r vs d
not men vs women
not rich vs poor
not x religion vs y
not old vs young
not leave me aloners
good vs evvil
critical to solving problems is to first clarify what exactly is the problem
evvil is becoming more active and on the march worldwide
meantime, the good have yet to lace their boots
something in the not so distant future will have to give as a collision is inevitable
stay tuned
we are living in interesting times
And who determines what’s ‘good’ and what’s ‘evil’? If I want to be left alone, I care not what your intentions are.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology
It is amazing to me that both parties are hell bent on destroying themselves from within. I guess it is inevitable due to man’s innate sinful/destructive
nature. Sad.
The radical left politicians in the Democratic Party are using a form of creative political destruction to remake the party in their own ideological model, using the affordability crisis as their main message to the voters.
The Democratic Party is now in the process of rebuilding itself using socialist/communist dogma as the glue which binds the party together.
This formula has been highly successful in the blue states, and is likely to be just as successful in the purple and the swing states in making the Democratic Party once again a cohesive political entity.
And if the older generation of Democrat politicians doesn’t buy into the oncoming focus on socialist/communist ideology as the basis of the party’s economic and social platform, that older generation of politicos will be quickly discarded.
Socialist/communist dogma is increasingly popular in the blue states and will be increasingly popular in the purple or swing states because of the abuses of crony and vulture capitalism which socializes only the risk and expense but privatizes profits towards the one percent.
Such an example is the Orwellian entitled “Affordable” Care Act or Obamacare. Contrary to popular opinion, Obamacare was NEVER about destroying health care so that Americans would embrace Universal Healthcare or Socialized Medicine. It was about COMPELLING Americans to pay astronomically expensive premiums with ridiculously high deductibles and still being on the hook for a huge amount after what little was paid IF these insurance companies approved the procedure to begin with.
It was promoted the way “No Fault” automobile insurance was; since everyone had to be insured and no one would be at fault, it would lower premiums and pay for any accidents. How did that work out?
The Republicans ran against Obamacare but didn’t fix it, because they have the same Healthcare Insurance Lobbyists donating to them that the Democrats have.
Ironically, even many Americans on the RIGHT support universal healthcare, because then they themselves would benefit from the Medicaid/Medicare programs they are already paying for.
In the meantime, most Americans would be smart to drop their insurance and bank their own money for doctor’s visits and prescriptions. There are minor emergency clinics who have programs where you can pay a small monthly fee to be seen if you need a doctor to write a prescription for an antibiotic for an infection. Hospitals will negotiate fees at much lower rates with the uninsured.
The best and only thing Trump could do is remove the mandate freeing Americans from being stuck up by Health Insurance Robber Barons. The only way We The People can get these ridculous health insurance costs lowered is if we boycott them.
How you view all this depends upon how you view the big and long picture.
Sundance, thank you for this overview. Praying for protection, peace, knowledge, and discernment for you. I truly admire your insight and clarity.
Timely.
Thank You!
Safe travels.
The focus on potential 2028 candidates as this point is baffling. Trump is President for over three more years. Why has Trump suddenly betrayed his base with an Israel first, neo con foreign policy, and a domestic policy that seems focused on catering to the desires, and greed, of the oligarchs, and crushing ordinary people? This emphatically was not Trump in his first term. What happened? If you want to do a deep dive, do it on Suzy Wiles, Marco Rubio, and Scott Bessent.
“Trump suddenly betrayed his base”
No, President Trump never betrayed us.
Those claiming otherwise are either never MAGA to begin with, and/or feeble minds easily manipulated, and/or plants.
I resent your comment a great deal. I supported him from 2015 onwards. I traveled from Boston to DC on January 6 at my own expense( not a wealthy person) with my sister to support him. He is wrong and insulted his base on these issues. A lot of us have children who are struggling, and to hear him be so dismissive was a gut punch. Please don’t add further insult by saying we were never MAGA in the first place. It’s rude and ignores the reality of what life is like for many people and how it felt hearing that, and also the continued dismissal of how bad the economy still is for many. Thank you.
I have been recommending people listen
to this young GenZ. 👍👏👏
She is one of the best I have heard!
Brett Cooper
What Happened to America First? | Episode 93 – YouTube
The headline is misleading….very little said about 50 yr. Mortgage
a lot said about economy.
50-Year Mortgages Aren’t the American Dream | Episode 92 – YouTube
THIS ^^^^^ !!!!! We will lose in 2026 AND 2028 because all of us, Pres. Trump included, are focused on everything but the critical thing, the economy. Brett Cooper is right on point. Pres. Trump’s almost flippant response to the Obamacare issue is a prime example. Just throw money at the people for healthcare and it will be fine. NO! Obamacare needs to be gutted! BUT, MAGA needs to have an alternative plan ready to replace it. And then the thought to give $2000 to everyone from tariffs. First, the tariffs haven’t brought enough in to cover this. And second we need longterm solutions, not shut the populace up with a little cash. Finally, the 50 year mortgage sounds like Pres. Trump is spitballing ideas to see what sticks. We need real, longterm solutions to OUR problems. He needs to bring to fruition all of the MAGA ideas for America he campaigned on. Then will can win in 2026 and 2028.
See my comment here about the lack of effective messaging from the Trump Administration explaining the specifics of its economic program and how those specifics will be improving working class lives in this country.
This near complete lack of effective messaging from Trump and his people is one reason among several as to why the MAGA movement is now at great risk of losing the 2026 mid-terms — and by a big margin.
I don’t think spitballing ideas is a good communication strategy.
Mimi there is an entire alternative system rising but you need to go do the work to find it.
Do a search in your area “Functional Medicine Practitioners”, this is the future.
She’s great. I listen to her as well, she is young and has a different perspective which I appreciate.
A 50 year mortgage is slavery and a hostage situation- which is certainly not the American Dream.
Imagine, when you are aware that you can save a ton of money by paying down your mortgage EARLY, doubling up on payments –
if you had a 30 year mortgage, you could get it down really great – a 15 year mortgage, wipe out that puppy –
So you would feel really great if you got that 30 year down to 12, let’s say – or the 15 year very quickly paid off –
this is an actual thing that people need to know about!
Wondering if in this 50 year mortgage scenario if the banking industry would finagle it in such a way that you would not be ALLOWED to pay it down early!
And don’t fall for a “flex-rate” or “vari-rate” mortgage when you get the darned thing in the first place! You need a “fixed-rate” mortgage and don’t be lured into the snare and delusion of anything else.
The horrible “Too Big To Fail” and the “foreclosure crisis” that came to a head in 2008 was comprised largely of all these bad housing loans bundled into tranches that were presented as bonds, rated highly even though the loans themselves were bad! And the ratings people went along with it (Moody’s, S & P).
Having watched the movie “Too Big To Fail” I am always irked recalling the personage of Ben Bernanke (Paul Giamatti) calmly and sedately enjoying his lovely meals with Henry Paulson (William Hurt), as if nothing in the world worried him . . . when he was the Fed Chairman and the entire ruse of the Federal Reserve was that we would not be subjected to these terrible events because the sagacious people at the Fed would be “on it”.
Also, even though due to some sort of housing bubble where the value of your house is going up so high beyond the mortgage, just ignore that and don’t go out and buy a boat or some other stupid thing to further encumber yourself. Even if you didn’t fall for the variable interest rate, endeavor to get out of Dodge before the “flex-rate” or “vari-rate” zooms up and the market is full of foreclosure home sales which will thus impact your home’s value even though you may have avoided foreclosure and your neighborhood becomes Zombieland.
I have a funny feeling that something is rotten in Denmark!
Mr. President, do you have a 50 year mortgage on Trump Tower?
Or is that rude and ignorant of me to ask?
“Paid off way long ago” is the answer I would expect and the reason why so many of us voted for you was your common sense regarding all kinds of things! In particular, matters of the economy and how it affects all of us when bad decisions are made in D. C.!
What a ridiculous statement. You obviously know very little about mortgages. Nobody is “forced” to keep a loan for 30 years or 50 years.
Forget the mortgage term for the moment: If someone is quoted an affordable interest rate with a payment schedule that allows them to afford a home purchase then why would you call them “slaves” and “hostages?”
They are homeowners. Unlike renters, their investment will build equity. They will enjoy SALT tax deductions.
If they change their minds at any time, they have plenty of options: Many borrowers prepay principal to pay their loan off faster, or they may refinance at some point if they see a better deal. They can also pay off the balance of their loan at the sale of the home.
There is no reason to be afraid of a mortgage loan from a reputable lender to a qualified buyer.
Would highly recommend a new podcast with Chris Rufo – he is a Millennial who has come from a 20 something Leftist to a 40 year old Conservative who fully supports President Trump and the MAGA coalition. BUT he is not afraid to call out areas where the Administration is flat out missing the point and embracing policies that are the exact opposite of what brought people like him over to the Republican side in the past 10 years.
This is their “origin story” and explains how they got to the place they are now.
This is an explanation of how some on the “New Right” are going off the deep end and also goes after DJT for the H1B kerfuffle and the problems with the 50 year mortgage. I found it to be really insightful!
Thank you! I will check that out. Appreciate it.
I, too, have young adult children who are struggling and frustrated so I do understand why many of us who support the vast majority of the MAGA agenda are becoming increasingly concerned about the people who appear to be influencing President Trump this time around. That should be cause for discussion, not insults, in my opinion!
Please let me know what you think of the podcast!
Highly recommend anything from Pat Buchanan VM. He has a ton of books, essays, and videos out there. He’s been one of PDJT biggest supporters from the getgo. PDJT has also acknowledged his many contributions to the Make America Great Again platform and campaigns. He is my main political mentor.
Pat Buchanan Belongs Among the Conservative Movement’s Greatest Heroes
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/pat-buchanan-belongs-among-the-conservative-movements-greatest-heroes/
Have followed Pat for decades – I think I have told you before that I commented on one of his columns when I was homeschooling and my high school age son had a question about something that Pat had said. I never expected a personal response but not only did he reply to me directly, he sent me his personal email and told us to contact him anytime we had a question about anything he wrote!
That is a beautiful story VM. Ty ma’am. He is working on his memoirs now and rumor was from Arminius a while back that he was sick, but I hope he is past that and is well again. I would love to see him get that Presidential Medal Of Freedom.
Senator Schmitt Requests Presidential Medal of Freedom for Conservative Icon Pat Buchanan
https://www.schmitt.senate.gov/media/press-releases/senator-schmitt-requests-presidential-medal-of-freedom-for-conservative-icon-pat-buchanan/
Pat Buchanan deserve it …he alweays been real conservative and America first .. since days of Nixon….
I am a massive Pat Buchanan supporter. I sure hope he receives the Medal of Freedom. It’s well deserved.
Ty buddy. I like your posts. We seem to share many of the same views.
Rep. Moore urges Trump to present Presidential Medal of Freedom to Pat Buchanan
https://catholicvote.org/rep-moore-urges-trump-to-present-presidential-medal-of-freedom-to-pat-buchanan/
Sure hope it happens especially while Pat is still with us.
Yep, PB should have been the candidate in the 2001 race against Gore. Having Bush II come in to win was a disappointment in so many ways. Just think, if PB had been the President there would never have been 20 years of wars in the Middle East. No nation building which is a myth. Nation building is just another phrase for enriching the military complex.
He had a Black Woman as his VP then. She was canceled because she was Christian, & Populist. I knew her from the old California Coalition For Immigration Reform days. She was good people, as she was a teacher fighting the Mexifornia/Aztlan/Brown Klan marxists in the Cali school system. Ezola Foster had the right color/gender, wrong religion and political views.
Go cry in your beer. You weren’t listening!
Rude.
MP, that’s a typical response from many commenters here.
There are lots of liberals with TDS, but I have found that there are also many – supposedly claiming to be on the America First / MAGA side – with TDS as well.
You’re not allowed to be even the least bit critical of PDJT nor his administration. No matter what. If you utter even one negative comment about what the Trump administration does, they will freak out, call you names, insult you, etc.
You can almost hear the sound of them screaming “Noooooooooo!!!” coming through your monitor.
It seems like some of them don’t believe in MAGA principles or even know what MAGA means… they are just Trump cultists.
Seriously, they are Trump cultists and that is sicko.
It’s wild. I would rather they have a reasoned debate about it than accusations of disloyalty. Thank goodness most people on here are reasonable and like to discuss differences. I don’t agree with my husband about everything, doesn’t mean I’m ready to throw him out.
You haven’t been studying Trump’s economics. Do a search here on Sundance’s website.
Installed Biden and the uniparty Billionaire donors destroyed the economy. Open borders, MASSIVE spending and they destroyed our energy sector.
President Trump IS fixing our economy and it’s better and yes it’s going to take more than a year to fix the damage that the Demoncrats did in just four years.
Were you living under a rock when Biden was installed for four years?
No need to be insulting. I understand the damage Biden did. That does not excuse his current statements and arrogant behavior, poorly thought out policies , or bad messaging. This is not a cult. It’s America First.
Unfortunately you left out the part where you should have said these failings are your opinion. And doubly unfortunate for you, your opinions are not well informed.
First, you lack an understanding about what President Trump is achieving. I guess you skip the White House news briefs. You could learn a lot by listening to them.
Second, your expectations that eleven months in President Trump would have everything humming is unrealistic. You apparently have ignored the seriousness of the problems Obummer’s third term created.
Bet hey, you could look for another leader. Maybe you like someone in the democrat camp? I say that because your rhetoric sounds like a democrat (the sky is falling).
By the way, you’re the one who is writing insulting crap.
Who did I insult? I have been respectful. Obviously it’s my opinion. That’s what comments are for. You seem to be extremely disturbed that I have an opinion that differs from yours. I disagree with what Trump said, and you seem to find that insulting to you. That’s fine. Agree to disagree. I acknowledged the damage Biden did. I’m not a child. I was addressing Trump’s recent statements, which many, besides myself, found insulting. Great leaders aren’t perfect and can be criticized. He’ll survive.
Just a thought, but perhaps you have not truly understood exactly what MAGA is?
Please explain it to me because I didn’t hear any of that in that interview. We are more than a business. We are a country with a culture and adding more and more foreigners, legal or illegal destroys the cohesion even further.
I have noticed the rhetoric promised when campaigning, and the rapid actions taken during the first few months in office abruptly ended.
Without legislation codifying executive orders and actions nothing positive will be lasting.
Congress as always. The worst part of all of it.
Marianne… or Miriam?
Go ask Nick Fuentes, your Lord and Savior.
Thank you for proving a point of the article. We argue amongst ourselves and hurl insults rather than engage in reasonable discussion. “No, he didn’t,” “Yes, he did too!” is not reasonable discussion.
Challenging the President’s words and actions indicates someone capable of thinking for him/herself and outside of the proverbial box.
Human being are designed to worship, but I would suggest you worship God, not any man.
I don’t need lessons about that.
I don’t see President Trump as a God, but I see him as an extraordinary man who does everything he can to improve the fate of this nation.
On the other hand, I see a lot of golden calf worshippers prostrating themselves, with no shame, at the dirty feet of crooks like Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and their sidekick Taqar Carlson.
Marianne your own mind is feeble and pathetic and shame on the upvoters.
Clearly life is great in your bubbles.. not all of live in one.
Sorry for not succumbing to fake sob stories from fake January 6 heroes about how much hardship they suffer, as if President Trump is not trying to juggle with MYRIADS of issues and challenges, in just 10 months. The economy will improve. I have trust.
I remain a faithful voter for President Trump and I WILL vote for either Marco Rubio or J D Vance when the time comes.
It takes a feeble and pathetic mind indeed to not even realize where we would be, right now, if President Kamala Harris, God forbid, would be in office.
And how do you know these are fake sob stories?
Are you a mind reader?
Your nastiness does not help your arguments. Reacting to criticism of Trump as if it is you who is being criticized blinds you to people’s real and legitimate concerns. We wouldn’t be here if we weren’t supporters. The answer to complaints is further explanation, not abuse.
Swampy Susie, Soros Scotty and Narco-Marco.
🤷♀️💁♀️
Donors before voters.
Swampy Susie protects Corporations and big donors interests.
Soros Scotty protects his Wall Street and Hedge Fund buddies.
Narco- Marco…🤷♀️🤷♀️he looks out for MIC….and ……
It’s unfortunate but so true..
🤔🤔🤔🤔
Who are the puppet masters of Uni-party?
Who controls our politics?
Nov. 2 during the JRC event……
Mark Levin labeled MTG.
He branded her as “Marjorie Trader Green”
in the same breath he spoke about silencing
Tucker, Owens, Bannon and others.
Now MTG is being targeted.💁♀️🤷♀️
Coincidence…I stopped believing in them years ago.
Levin has bragged about silencing the John Birch Society,
Pat Buchanan and others…..
Just basic research reveals how many have been silenced
throughout the decades.
Those who wish to silence you
Are those who wish to control you
transcript in article….
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/11/02/mark_levin_to_republican_jewish_coalition_what_do_you_mean_we_cant_cancel_bastard_tucker_carlson_we_canceled_pat_buchanan.html
Clips of Levin bragging in this podcast
Pat Buchanan was RIGHT and Warned All of Us — And Now It’s Happening Again | Redacted News
Mark Levin is probably doing somersaults from happiness.
👺👺👺
Pitting conservatives and MAGA against each other.
Instigating further division. 🤷♀️💁♀️
This just makes President Trump look really mean and petty.😖🥴
Worth reading.
A Furious President Trump Bestows Brutal New Nickname on Marjorie Taylor Greene as War of Words Escalates Following His Withdrawal of Support for Her | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger
It was actually Laura Loomer that named Marjorie ‘Traitor’ Green last yr.
Yes, but why should anyone actually be accurate with their information when they have a bias to put forward?
Ah….read the transcript of his speech
on November 2nd.
🙄 🙄 🙄
Where Mark Levin actually called her that…
🙄 🙄
Levine referred to her as Marjorie “Trader” Greene – as in stock trader.
She’s made some sketchy stock deals while in Congress.
Does it really matter who originally called
MTG that?
Who really listened to Loony Loomer when
she coined the name…..
When Mark Levin gets on a very well publicized
stage and uses the name…in the same breath he
names those he is also trying to silence…..
That happened on Nov. 2nd…..🤷♀️
Now MTG is being targeted???
And it is not connected?
Yeah….sure…ok.🤪🤪🙃🙁
Levin speaking indicates an extremely vile individual. The use of the “anti-Semite” card to silence others is effective, and must be met with cogent resistance.
This is so correct and as a person in touch with conservatives I am seeing the two sided split more and more each day. Both sides are digging in their heels and getting increasingly nasty to each other. Maga is indeed being pulled apart.
Ignore the shiny objects.
There are Trump positions or decisions with which I disagree. Some of them puzzle or alarm me. But Trump is still what we have, and he is much better than was the alternative.
“The Game Plan
Sundance @TheLastRefuge2
“Trump will not find perfect solutions. He will find OPTIMAL solutions. We cannot ask for more.
Trump has stood by and watched Perfect murder Good for 8 years – maybe longer. He’s not gonna do it. He’s going to deliver the best outcome possible, and he’s not waiting for us to feel relaxed about it.
Best presidency ever! Just hang on. More winning is coming, but a lot of people are going to scream that it’s all over at EVERY turn.
The best way through this is to define viewpoints, not people, because people will shift as they change position and velocity in Trump gravity.
Bash the neocon, warmonger, and dopey globalist positions – not the people who are going to hold them one moment and come loose from them later.
Trump is Jupiter moving through the asteroid belt. He is going to pull people into his orbit.
A few will get slung off into space, but most will come along for the ride of their lives.
I am ON the Trump Train for good, even if I scream that I want off and can’t take it. In the end, I only want to scream “TOO MUCH WINNING!!!”
Unseen1 @unseen1_unseen
Here is the game plan that the forces against Trump will be using for the foreseeable future.
They will attempt to get you to make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Be it the freedom clowns and spending, the immigration hawks with H1B visas, the peace doves with timing, the cultural warriors with total bans of DEI/CRT, the neocons with war fighting, or the swamp dwellers with draining the swamp.
All of them will attempt to get you to believe on whatever issue is the issue of the day that it doesn’t go far enough or do enough. They will try to make you think that some sub issue of that issue is more important and should be handled first, that since the issue hasn’t been handled yet it won’t be, that we can’t do more than one thing, that so and so is a plant to stop the draining of the swamp, or that because it wasn’t 100% Trump lied. On every single issue, one or more groups will attempt this strategy.
You can’t allow them that power over you. If Trump secures the border and deports 2 million, don’t allow them to reduce that good by them saying well he didn’t deport 2.5 million, so he failed or lied.
You can’t allow them to use the perfect to void out the good in the coming months.
They will try. They already have with the CR and the H1b visa debates. It works, that is why they use it. You have to keep it in the front of your head on everything about to occur that half a loaf or hopefully in most cases 7/8ths a loaf is better than no loaf.
Do not allow them to gaslight you into thinking the good is the enemy of the perfect.
In the real world, most things are never perfect, but if we try real hard, we can get plenty of good accomplished in the coming 4 years.”
FROM OUR DAILY PRESIDENTIAL THREAD
by SUNDANCE
“The purpose and goals of President Trump are plainly visible by his actions and consistent: He is for the benefit first of the common PEOPLE of this country, then of the PEOPLE in the rest of the world. It is validating, even to our battered conservative skepticism.
The methods of his leadership are amazing. I still don’t get HOW he does it, or HOW he is able to get so much momentum going, but every day the momentum is growing. Everyone and every organization has their eyes opened every day — just by watching him. Even those who hate him, are biased against him, and want to see him gone — cannot ignore him. He lives rent free in their head, and they come around to seeing the universal principles by which he is operating. He hammers actions based on truth from one direction, then another, and they cannot mount an organized opposition against him.
President Trump is transparent in his words and actions. He is consistent in what he says, what he does, and what he asks/demands of others. His promises are bold and he keeps them like no other president has. He is making massive, nearly overnight changes, not only in our country, but in the world. It is amazing that he is able to accomplish so much when there are so many snakes in the grass. This term, he is weeding them out faster. No U.S. president has ever faced so much organized resistance and treason than President Trump
He has chosen to use his intellect and every skill he has to do what is right. He has tremendous faith that he can make a difference in this world. He has a confidence and courage such that he doesn’t care what others think, yet a humility to know he has to do it with the help of like minded people. Those people are the “common” people, and he ridicules those who think they are not common.
He believes people are basically good. He believes that God is real. He believes that healthy people are happy people, and they need to be able to create wealth freely for their labor, and have the freedom to spend their money on what is good for them.
He believes the United States, with its Constitutional Republic, is the best environment in the world to enable and give opportunity for people to be happy and prosperous.
He believes that we can be a light for the world, but we must demand that the rest of the world respect us and our right to life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness.
He believes the enemy of our country are the stupid, greedy American people who have been selfishly taking advantage of this country; who betrayed the trust and obedience of its people; and who diverted the people’s wealth for their own selfish gain, at the expense of the principles of this country. He’s not going to allow that anymore.
He has cultivated and focused the family of MAGA. Identifying those people whose goodness, industriousness, trust, and obedience have been taken advantage of and abused. He has opened our eyes to this abuse, and the rights of freedom and self determination that have been quietly stolen from us.
He has rekindled the healthy distrust of government and men with too much power held by our founders. He has recultivated the desire to reclaim our freedoms and rights, and is empowering us with a hope and pathway to reclaim our spiritual and economic freedom.
He wants the US to be a light of hope on the hill for all people. He will negotiate win/win agreements with those nations and countries who respect us; who respect the principles and intent of our Constitution. If you do not respect us, however, we are not going to let you take advantage of our goodness, or share in our wealth at our expense. If you as a nation are treating your people badly, you are going to be treated less favorably by us, until you show that you value your people as much as we value ours.
He is convincing those who are very wealthy (most of whom truly earned their money), that the best economic soil in which to build wealth is in a constitutional republic, which supports the ability of the common man to earn wealth in proportion to his efforts. The economic engine of the United States is the human spirit freed to enjoy the fruits of honest labor, and that engine has more natural and raw horsepower than any other governed economy.
The Trump Train seems to be remarkably aligned with universal principles of Truth, which reflect the will and design of our Creator, and are the best standard by which we should live. These same principles were what our country’s founders used to declare independence, and framed into the Constitution of this nation.
Our founders believed that a nation should preserve the right and freedom of an individual to seek, understand, and live by God’s principles. They believed that free individuals working together in humility would make a stronger nation than a government which dictates its will on the people. President Trump professes and seeks to lead and restore this nation back to these same principles.
These principles resonate deeply within all human beings, down to our DNA in every cell, in our spirits, and produce fruit that “miraculously” multiplies. Because we follow universal principles, we see the snowballing acceleration of momentum on day 299 of the 2nd term of this very stable genius in the history of the kingdoms of this world in the year of our Lord 2025.”
Is it not the common person, the MAGA supporter with belief in President Trump and his America first policies, the supporters who turned to him to fulfill his MAGA agenda, who are now questioning the new directions of the Susie Wiles influenced Administration?
Flwolverine: “Is it not the common person, the MAGA supporter with belief in President Trump and his America first policies, the supporters who turned to him to fulfill his MAGA agenda, who are now questioning the new directions of the Susie Wiles influenced Administration?”
Indeed it is. And unless Donald Trump takes heed of what MTG and others are saying, and refocuses his actions and his messaging primarily back on America’s domestic needs — in other words, who cares what happens in Ukraine and in Gaza — then the MAGA movement will be defeated in the 2026 mid-terms and in the 2028 presidential cycle.
Outside of this board, and a few others, the MAGA base has no idea who Susie Wiles is
Thank you for the reminder we all need on this thread. Sundance always spells it out for us, but it seems some of us forget to ponder instead of argue. Be patient with our President. He’s trying to clean up a mess that took decades to create. It cannot be done overnight.
Back in the ole days in 2015, President Donald Trump stepped into the GAP and took everything that came at us, so now we just want to make sure the GAP is filled like before and expect to take some of that everything to help Make America Great Again…MAGA
All I know is, President Trump is doing what nobody else can.
I thought those words and sentiments are from our fellow Treeper Countrydoc, not Sundance.
Promethean Updates
TRUMP UNLEASHES FURY on Epstein’s Democrat Enablers, Exposes Empire’s Shameful Cover-Up – YouTube
Thank you for this!
Twice I have indicated that Epstein claimed it was President Trump who turned him in. Quite overlooked by everyone. Obviously this would mean that even though President Trump knew about Epstein and his games, he did not partake. If this true, he was involved in ending them.
As soon as this is thoroughly blasted out to everyone, the better.
Unfortunately we have the now the married to English Gentry, Candace Owen’s, thinking that she can investigate and smear whomever she wants. No public figure is off limits for her dubious investigations. Once she was for President Trump but now she bemoans that she sadly cannot be for him. Meghan Kelly with memos and tapes. Hungry for a gotcha moment.
I hope the Dems rue the day they started this and it seriously backfires on them in such a way they will have a tough time getting anyone elected in 2026. Of course that will never happen.
This country will soon be unrecognizable. Sad.
Demography is destiny – it’s already lost.
Sooo….
What exactly is the division that they are trying to get us hot and bothered about?
Sure, Trump is negotiating with Syria and Qatar, but he negotiates with Xi and Kim.
I see the troll space attempting to stir division, but it’s mostly just the usual actors with their vague concern trolling that fills the page with, “no, YOU’RE a poopy face”, bs.
HOW do they plan to use the Israel issue to achieve their agenda of getting back to the status quo.
poopy face 🙁 lol
Is the problem certain entities trying to fracture MAGA for political reasons?
Or could the problem be Trump?
For example, promising to end the Ukraine war immediately upon taking office (which can be easily done by cutting off all support), then doing a 180 and keeping it going.
Or, promising to release the Epstein client list upon taking office, then doing a 180 and calling it a hoax.
Or, promising to protect American workers from undermining by immigration, then doing a 180 and supporting H-1B.
Just a few of the multiple examples of such.
But we are supposed to turn a blind eye and support him no matter what?
Looks like Trump himself is working to fracture MAGA:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/friday-night-meltdown-trump-yanks-mtg-endorsement-mocks-massies-remarriage-after-wifes
You concerned about MAGA fracturing? Take it up with Trump.
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” (Hamlet, William Shakespeare)
On Trump vs. the discharge petition to force a House floor vote on Massie’s bill that would compel the DOJ to release all its Epstein files.
Which is coming up for the vote this coming Tuesday, thanks to Massie.
If it passes, the subsequent actions could REALLY fracture MAGA.
I say release all the files, unredacted.
The perfect wedge – why is that?
If Democrats take the House, Trump will be impeached again.
Pathetic that Democrats hate Trump so much they are already planning his removal.
It’s even more pathetic that the supposed Republicans hate President Trump so much they are working hand in hand with the Democrats to remove PT and destroy our country.
I watched them help destroy Pat Buchanan’s campaigns especially 96. I tried to explain this to many people over the years, only until PDJT exposing them, did the masses catch on. I will forever be indebted to him for that alone, though he has done a slew of other great things to help us out.
Was Buchanan Robbed in Louisiana, Iowa, Arizona?
https://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim96-03a.html
Yes, and I want you to know how much I appreciate all your posts. So much historical
information…much needed for people to grasp our current situation, if they choose to listen.
Slainte
Why ty friend lolli.
Maybe PT shouldn’t be sending out memes of him dumping feces on American citizens.
That is exactly what will happen.. Everything will stop and we go thru all that nonsense
again..
IN? OR OUT?
Simple! Never Quit!!!
PDJT broke their one party charade system.
I think the “other” probably helped.
At least a good portion of them did. It’s not like the Never Trumper’s hid their intentions to defeat President Trump.
Kinzenger and Cheney were outright hostile which was more honest than McConnell, Graham and their ilk.
The fracturers smell blood on the water because Marxists just had a yuge electoral victory. But if you think about it our valiant President Trump has achieved already much of the program he was elected for. In his own words:
“Closed Borders, Low Taxes, No Men in Women’s Sports or Transgender for Everyone, ending DEI, stopping Biden’s Record Setting Inflation, Biggest Regulation Cuts in History, stopping EIGHT WARS, rebuilding our Military, being RESPECTED by every Country in the World (as opposed to being the laughingstock that we were just 12 months ago!), having Trillions of Dollars (Record Setting!) INVESTED in the U.S.A., and having created the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World from being a DEAD Country just 12 months ago (and so much more!).”
If we all work together what a wonderful World it will be!
List of Democratic Socialists of America public officeholders – Wikipedia
Most are familiar with Bernie Sanders and AOC.
Both are Marxists.🤢
But crickets 🦗🦗🦗 about the couple hundred + others.
🙄🙄🙄
Have no doubt there is definitely a crew operating here almost daily from the Alligator
Emojis.
What I can not understand is why would you support a coward that hid in his bunker for a week when Mar Lago was raided? It is not support, it is all about money. The only reason to swarm this site, is because the Alligators know how dangerous the Treehouse is to them.
They have started throwing money out just to try and silence and divide this site.
There are a couple of handlers that show up and use their bots to upvote the handlers to make it look like their comments are the majority. I am sure most here know them by their complete contempt of Israel in their comments. They never miss an opportunity to slip it in the comments.
There are also legitimate comments about Israel from our other Treepers, and I listen and agree with them. Israel has definitely tried to take advantage of us and President Trump let them know it was not going to work.
But alas Live your best life as Sundance recommends.
Interestingly, someone who works for the Citadel viewed the LinkedIn profile of little ole’ me.
Trump’s worst enemy is Trump.
The reversal on immigration is damning. We are a nation not an economic zone to be exploited.
I want no visas issued PERIOD. There are 55 MILLION people here on visas and I want every single one of them shipped back home.
Trump has PUBLICLY stated we need immigration because we don’t have qualified people here.
This is utterly false.
Especially if those people are not allowed to vote, then I have no idea why Republicans are trying to pander to them. It’s so crazy. The vast majority of immigrants absolutely hate Americans, American culture, and especially white people. They are only here for the money and opportunity that the country unfairly affords them. If given amnesty the will immediately vote all of us into socialism.
IMO they are trying to position to hold onto the tech titans.
and this could happen sooner than we think…
Go away.
Truth is what it is.
🎯 🎯👍
Those who wish to silence you
Are those who wish to control you.
😉😉
I can remember the Mockingbirds attempts to call PDJT an “Anti-semite”. They realized how obvious a lie that was so they were ordered to stop by their controllers at the CFR. PDJT has a Jewish Daughter, Grandchildren, and In-laws as well as friends. The Alinsky “Anti-semite” & “Nazi” labels are acts of desperation when the target is on target and gaining political popularity and power.
Real Nazis and “Anti-semites” show up and are helping their Luciferian Global/Democrat/Marxist agenda is ok, like Democrat Louis Farrakhan or Dinko Sakic etc
Agree!
Then stop dual citizenship.
Then stop anyone with dual citizenship..🤢
from holding any government office or
government job… both Federal and State.
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸America First 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Period.
One cannot serve 2 masters.
My three grandchildren are dual citizens. Born to legally married American mother and Mexican father in Mexico. Needed to leave their home in a pleasant part of Mexico because of the COVID lockdown and school closures down there. Living in the United States but visiting Mexico as often as possible since 2021. They are proficient in both languages and function well in both cultures.
Should my grandchildren be booted from the US, or maybe from Mexico?
Maybe they should get a boat and float in the Gulf of America.
There is no reversal GSD, the borders are closed and ICE is active in major urban areas. Some of the protected status refugees have had their status removed. There will always be some Visas issued in any country period dot.
I see more and more the Israel issue is being used as an excuse by many to criticize (unrealistically and untruthfully) President Trump.
Broad general statements like “stated we need immigration” without context are efforts to influence.
He said it on *public TV* that the H1B Visas would continue to flow because there was no talent here.
There is 55 MILLION VISA HOLDERS IN THE USA.
OUT!
Already eliminated the H1B that competes with middle class. The over $100K visa’s include ones already issued. Some of that 55K are the usual farm workers which has been going on forever.
zDo you begin to see what is meant by context? Out!
55K? NO 55 MILLION.
The Trump administration public admitted this and he publicly stated it would continue.
Stop. Lying.
From Newsweek:
The State Department on Thursday told the Associated Press that it is conducting “continuous vetting” on the more than 55 million people who currently hold valid U.S. visas, sparking speculation online that there could be 55 million legal migrants currently in the United States.
However, the real figure is far lower, as the 55 million includes all those with visas, such as for work or study, many of whom are not currently in the U.S., according to figures from the Department of Homeland Security. The total number of U.S visa holders can also include tourists from many countries.
Context not sensationalism
I miss typed ….stop with the personal attacks and debate facts plz. Just cause someone debates you doesn’t make it an attack but accusations of lying are attacks.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-visas-deportations-068ad6cd5724e7248577f17592327ca4
Trump administration is reviewing all 55 million foreigners with US visas for any violations
Actually, it’s more than that. Hard to say exactly but none of it is any good any longer. It’s damning for President Trump to come out and defend H1B et al work visas. There is so much fraud it’s insane.
The mohammed refugees have to be returned to their home countries or at the very least cut off from all taxpayer assistance. They are told from day one by the NGOs how to get on the taxpayer dime and this happens 30 days after their arrival. Some may work but they all still stay on taxpayer welfare of some sort including medicaid. The old ones even get SS Disability. That exploded under Hussein.
Trump administration admitted in public 55 million with an M.
Deportation would be better plus you could lower US Green House Gas emissions which should make the Green Nazi tards happy (sarc)
OK..which PDJT orig. 6’3″ or 5’11” what we see since mid of June ????????
As pointed out, there are only TWO teams to consider. One is MAGA with President Trump as the Coach. The other is the DeepState commies serving to destroy the Constitution and America.
Remembering who to root for is a growing problem with some self-claimed conservatives.
Never forget, WWG1WGA, and RINOs are bigger liars than DIMocrats.
I have hate President Trump/TDS fatigue!!! I remember when Eisenhower was President and never has any President since been as hated by such a large percentage of the country as President Trump!!! Makes no sense to me, I don’t really understand hate like that!!! I know it’s real and I know the source! I decided to focus on a side note instead!
“Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.” – Ps 46:10. This will happen as sure as the sun rises in the East!!!!
According to Republicans, MAGA is now the “woke right” lol.
Great comment about Marco, Sundance. I’m inclined to believe this new rendition, and maybe his “owner” actually is the American people, I guess we’ll see.
What I wonder is Marco was right in the thick of the whole Mueller nonsense and
all the secret stuff with the SSIC..he was head of it..So has he whispered the secrets
he know from that time to POTUS..
Let’s ask him – so Marco what can you tell us about Mueller and your time as capo at SSCI? Marco? Marco? Ya, thought so.
I don’t know what’s worse, the totalitarian left who use all of their power to crush their enemies, or the idiotic right, who have been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory since Gingrich was Speaker.
I’m resigned to the fact that the republicans are going to throw the house midterms to spite PDJT47 and the MAGA agenda, and it will not surprise me if they can get 67 votes in the senate to convict on one of the dozens of impeachments the socialists will put on when speaker ocasio-cortez gets the gavel.
The biggest trading partners with the US had very little or no tariffs on US goods. Canada is the biggest buyer of US goods and services – almost half a trillion a year, and it has zero tariffs on almost every US good, even dairy that comes in tariff-free within quota levels.
Canada buys more US goods than China, Japan, the UK, and France combined, and what did Trump do? He slapped tariffs of up to 50% on America’s best customer? Why? Is that any way to treat America’s best friend and ally? Meanwhile, he gave Argentina, a country of little importance to the US $40 billion!
Americans are finally finding out that tariffs are just an import tax paid by the American consumer and American businesses. They drive up the cost of everything.
Trump needed the tax revenue generated by this new consumption tax to pay for his big tax break for the 1% crowd. In essence, it is the biggest upward transfer of wealth in history. If you are working class, Trump does not care about you. Trump only cares about the Zuckerbergs, Ellisons, Adelsons, Finks, etc.
IMHO, PDT ruined this by his interview with Laura Ingram. IMHO, he is getting bad advice from Susie Wiles. In his interview, he said bad things about American workers. He did this to MAGA on his own. The only other thing I can think of that would make him do this is if he and/or his family were threatened. Also note, GWOT vets are very angry at who he brought to the WH last Sunday. He has also lost a LOT of support from vets.
Very sad and disappointed.
I’d like to see Susie Wiles take a lie detector to see if she is in communication with meatball her very recent employer or connections to Sea Island in any way whatsoever
Ok. There is the analysis of all the horses, owners, activities, MAGA, Tea Party, Sea Island, McConnell/McStain, donors here and there, what position they are jokeying for (sorry for horse term), etc.
So, there is the one constant and central character of the one horse we should be focused on, Trump.
So, listening to what he actually says and tweets, not MAGA/GOPe folks’ narrative of what it all means. I listen and read what he says and sometimes don’t understand it.
Not being flippant here, our host has done good job of analyzing the roles and activities of the historical GOPe crowd.
But, perhaps our host can do a deep dive dissection of various things Trump has said and texted in recent days/weeks that seem thoroughly confusing. I don’t mind being on the wild train ride, but would like to know some details if they are known. Our host does seem to have more comprehensive understanding of things than any of us readers. Can we get some of that if possible?
Otherwise, we have what Trump says and tweets, then lots of conflicting analyses. Which are the closest to a reality?
In my opinion, the fraction is those who are being put before MAGA to replace President Trump. Too much has happened regarding the lead contenders for many to forget and get behind. A supporter who has stood for President Trump and MAGA from the beginning. Find that person with the strength of Trump and new voters will replace those who think its possible to keep every promise when you’re in office.
Godspeed my friend.
I’ve said it before and again: “MAGA” must not simply be “an acronym on a red hat.” It must be an earnest national imperative.
Chester Karrass said it well in in-flight magazines: “In life, you don’t get what you deserve. You get what you negotiate.” The same is true of any country on this planet: if you do not constantly strive to put [your_country] first, no one else on earth ever will. Because they are too busy doing, for themselves, what you also should be doing for you. They will happily steal your money (and everything else) if you give it to them!
The only President that we have lately had who was actually a businessman and therefore knew a thing or three about “negotiation” was Jimmy Carter. (But: his very-different business was “agriculture.”) President Trump, as a private citizen, made a legitimate business of it in one of the most difficult places and businesses in the world. He then wrote many excellent books about it, all of which are well worth very careful study. But way too many people in our Congress and in our State Governments readily reveal the fact that they have zero experience in these matters.
Balderdash
Democrat and Republican politicians have an economic incentive to increase immigration, increase work visas, and increase automation at the expense of U.S. workers, U.S. job seekers, future Americans, and the national interest in order to receive continuing funding by corporatist and globalist interests to accomplish this for them.
Simultaneously, an increasing number of younger U.S. citizens (in their ignorance) want to move in a direction that results in a hyper-inflation Argentina model as they are too ignorant with respect to economics and the world they live in to understand that Western socialist democracies are in steep economic decline and the Chinese communist model will end in the same way the Soviet Union model ended if it ever loses access to exploiting foreign nations (in the same way a parasite exploits a host metaphorically speaking) which is presently being conducted under the auspice of The Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).
One can live in a country with a strong social safety net that isn’t used much because the work opportunities and rewards are high enough that almost no one is left behind. That’s not what we see in the U.S. with its 24.7% “functionally unemployed) LISEP rate.
The leftist dominated public education and university systems have egregiously failed to provide them an intellectual framework for them to construct worldviews that actually work in objective reality, real-world competencies to profit in a 21st century economic environment, etc. But they did teach them to embrace sexual immorality, use drugs and alcohol, and instill them a burning desire to relive the failed political ideologies of the twentieth-century left… for which they have incurred a long-term debt in the form of student loans.
“Job Prospects for 2026 College Grads to Hit 5-Year Low While Employers Eye AI, Foreign Labor.”
“The outlook for the college graduating class of 2026 has dimmed sharply as data shows employer hiring plans have stalled, job market ratings have slipped, and workforce competition has intensified due to automation and visa-based labor programs.”
See: https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/2026-graduates-job-market-7928bcd7
See: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/11/14/job-prospects-2026-college-grads-hit-five-year-low-employers-eye-ai-foreign-labor/
I have read this discussion a couple.of times now and take issue with one aspect of it. Yes it is true all the wedge issues play into and give support to the Sea Island efforts and the efforts of the Koch industries, so support for Israel might have this effect as well except for one thing: Those Trump supporters who also support Israel are not interested in weakening Trump or MAGA. They support Trump but at the same time they are concerned about Israel’s survival in a dangerous neighborhood. They/we thought Trump was strongly supportive of Israel. Sundance pointed out that this was so in his first administration.
I personally have been trying to look at Trump’s Middle East actions and policies as efforts to maintain US hegemony vis a vis China in the Middle East. If that is his goal in making Qatar his best buddy, well I can live with that. But as Sundance has said, Qatar is NOT A GOOD ACTOR. Qatar spends billions indoctrinating our young people to think Israel is an apartheid racist country and the US is a colonial oppressor. Qatar spends untold billions funding every jihadist terrorist action and war in the world. There is absolutely nothing good Qatar offers. But as I said, suppose Trump has geostrategic reasons for shaking the icky hands of these wealthy psychopaths. It’s his hand. I am open to seeing what Trump makes of these psychopathic mass murderers like Al Jolani of Syria and the Hamas leaders that Qatar sponsors. Basically I believe you cannot make peace with psychopathic mass murderers. Trump and Witkoff keep trying to do this, but it always falls apart.
Being supportive of Israel is not in any way contradictory to being America first. America is my country. I support Israel the way if someone had ancestors in Ireland they’d support Ireland. That doesn’t make them Ireland first.
I find it hurtful just like any other form of antisemitism to feel criticized for my support for Israel. I have not pulled my support for Trump, I don’t see anyone else who can do the job. I voted for Trump 3 times and I am glad I did.
It seems to me it’s not the people who support Israel who are making a problem for MAGA. It’s more the people who blame Jews and say they (the Jews) unfairly criticize them as antisemitic when they are just “being critical of the Israeli government.” Here’s the problem with that. If you have criticism of the Israeli government, NO ONE CAN CRITICIZE you. Everyone has a right to criticize the Israeli government. But if you criticize the Israeli government and expect Israel to behave a way you would never expect any other country to behave, now that’s a problem. That’s where the criticism comes in.
I actually think this antisemitism thing is blowing over. It may come back again. In every generation there is a holocaust against the Jews. That’s just a fact. So Jews being concerned about antisemitism is Jews going about life NOT PRETENDING. We cannot afford to pretend.
But on social media I am seeing little snide antisemitic comments being responded to, and people like that being put in their place. THEY CANNOT DIVIDE MAGA using Judaism. It won’t work. There are far too many non-Jews who support Israel in MAGA. THEY DON’T CARE about Tucker, Candace, Fuentes, Mark Levin, THEY JUST DON’T CARE. They care about God, they care about Jesus, and they care profoundly about Israel.
From what I have seen of them, they are single issue people whose single issue is Israel. They support Trump and MAGA only to the extent that Trump and MAGA support Israel, and will abandon Trump and MAGA in a heartbeat if that support lessens.
Nobody is actually doing that. I see this accusation tossed around all the time by the Israel supporters, but they can’t point to any actual evidence of it happening. The government of Israel supported Hamas. Then after Hamas attacked Israel, the government of Israel attacked numerous neighboring countries, in direct violation of international law. We are currently at war with Russia because Russia did essentially what Israel did. The notion that Israel is held to some “special standard” which no other country is expected to meet is just a dishonest talking point.
There are a lot of them, but these days they are a minority. That minority is over-represented in media circles, including conservative media circles, which creates the illusion that their position enjoys more support than it actually has. Bur Charlie Kirk withdrawing his support for Israel was indicative of the generational shift happening on the right.
Instead of calling peoples names, which has the result of making people dislike you, why not listen to their (entirely reasonable) complaints?
The US has not transformed Ireland into a regional superpower armed with nuclear weapons, and the Irish in America for the most part have political attitudes on a wide range of issues which align with those of other Americans. If you want to know why Jewish-Americans are viewed differently from Irish-Americans, that’s a good place to start. There is nothing at all confusing about this. Constantly pretending that all criticism of Jews is “antisemitism” is having the entirely predictable result of making people dislike Jews. Own up to your own bad behavior.
I don’t see myself as being guilty of “bad behavior” but I am coming to realize that some think differently, about me that is. If I want to know about Israel, I want to talk to a Jew, and especially one who is a Christian and loves his ancient land. In my opinion, that has the most likely outcome of me learning the truth of the matter.
“Then after Hamas attacked Israel, the government of Israel attacked numerous neighboring countries, in direct violation of international law.”
Quite rich.
Hamas, i suppose, attacked Israel in accordance with international law?
Hezbollah/Lebanon attacked Israel in accordance with international Law?
Syria assisted Hezb-Allah in accordance with national law?
Yemen/Houthis attacked Israel in Accordance with National law?
Iran assisted Hamas and attacked Israel in accordance with national law?
Qatar hosted Hamas and facilitated them in accordance with national law?
But no, you definitely have only one standard that guides your outrage.
Israel is very important in God’s eyes, that is obvious. Israel is not that important to the masses of mankind going their own way.
Nothing is as simple as it seems.
Consider there is the biblical Israel and there is the secular Israel, the government of the nation of Israel and the biblical Jewish faith. These are not the same anymore than the government of the United States is synonymous with Christianity or any other faith.
It is bizarre to read the sentiments of those who blindly defend the actions of the Israeli government rightfully condemn the government of the United States. Who can explain this without emotional damage to themselves?
This dust up with Marjorie Taylor . . .
She’s up for re-election next year in Georgia for her own seat – after considering a run for either Senator or Governor.
She is not polling well at all for a variety of reasons and hasn’t polled well for quite some time.
Knowing she would not be elected again, she was hoping President Trump after his being elected, would hand her a Cabinet position, an ambassadorship, or some such comfortable job in his administration – which he did not do.
Now she’s very angry with President Trump and appears to be doing anything she can think of as a means to sabotage him – and he knows it.
That’s why she’s hopped on this Epstein bandwagon and is going around whining about Israel.
She is woman scorned.
0.o
A very large part of the GOP base is upset about Epstein and about Israel. Booting all these people out of the party is a recipe for political disaster.
If MTG was trying to get Trump to hand her some cushy job, she would have behaving the exact opposite to the way she actually has been behaving. Maybe you should consider the possibility that she means the things she says?
They should be much more upset about the illegals in America.
Not a very large part of the GOP.
An extremely tiny – yet louder than an army of Karens – portion of the fringe GOP + the usual “concern trolls”.
A very large part of the GOP base is upset about Epstein and about Israel. Booting all these people out of the party is a recipe for political disaster.
If MTG was trying to get Trump to hand her some cushy job, she would have behaving the exact opposite to the way she actually has been behaving. Maybe you should consider the possibility that she means the things she says?
The GOP and MAGA are not the same.
MAGA people know there is nothing damaging against President Trump in any Epstein files if such files even/still exist.
And MAGA people don’t need the mainstream media nor internet bots telling us what to be pissed off about – especially when it comes to Epstein and Israel.
There is a color revolution-type operation going on right now and Epstein & Israel are being used as tools in that operation.
Marjorie booted herself out.
She had already turned on President Trump before he announced he was fed up with her.
When she finally realized she wasn’t going to get a coveted job – that’s when she really started showing her @$$.
Go watch her interviews this past year – in order.
Marjorie is grasping and she knows she’s washed up.
All she can do now is run for office even though she knows she’ll lose- just to rake in campaign contributions.
Cha-Ching.
0.o
She may have also ran afoul with the Muslim CAIR lobbies buddies from AIPAC.
Please explain “Muslim CAIR lobbies buddies from AIPAC”. Thank you.
There is obviously outside leverage on she him it
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There seems to be lots of whining about Israel going on. One doesn’t have to look far.
The entire republican party is a corrupt, greedy mess. The entire demoncr@p party is a corrupt, evil, mess. (The lack of capitalization is intentional)
At the map linked below, you can see the urban v. rural divide. Those cities usually host more than one university each.
President Donald J Trump’s roots are in New York City. Although he has interacted extensively with people who work in the construction trades and hospitality industry, he has not had any appreciable time embedded in rural workaday settings.
Looking at the map, it is clear that Trump’s base is rural.
2024 Election Results by Precinct
https://votehub.com/2024-map/
I would suggest that the messaging needs to better match the base. The worst case for DJT would be for his base to feel disrespected.
He may not have spent time in rural areas, but he has a worker’s ethic: he knows how to work. They have that in common.
Of course the communication could be better, and not just with people in any geographical area, but, for example, with young people and others hit hard in this economy.
But part of the problem is he is dealing with enormously complex issues.
Add to that the media is trying to nullify his achievements at every turn.
Add to that he is forging new ways of doing things and even some of his supporters fail to understand.
Communication in the best of times is difficult unless you’re running a propaganda campaign and President Trump is doing the opposite.
One more thing: He’s already working 24/7 on the enormous problems this country faces.
What’s the answer? We need to step up our communication game.
We need to be patient when we don’t understand and seek info instead of immediately claiming he’s the problem.
We need to become better informed and more thoughtful “we the people.”
We The People have had no representation in the AG’s office for over thirty years. The judiciary is a cruel joke, at this point. God told us we would not win here on Earth. Our win comes in the after life. It is clear that many have no interest or belief in The Living God. They worship His creations, but not The Creator. I support much of what Trump has done and is doing. I am woefully frustrated with his inaction on things he promised. I am holding him to his word. Many call me a traitor for this, now. That tells me, there’s a bunch of posers on “our side”, too. Anyone who would say they are MAGA, but then forbid me to ask why Trump is balking on huge promises, is not MAGA. We have only delayed the big bad fight that is coming. It cannot be stopped. It cannot be negotiated or compromised with. It is a fulfillment of prophecy. We are living in Biblical Times. Prepare.
It’s just politics Sundance. Nothing new. The uniparty exists and will never allow a third party so all of you never republicans should just drop it. They won’t allow a new democrat type party to get going either. This ideology is present at the local senate district level too. No changes to our methods you dirty grass rooters!
As far as the Israel thing, I don’t understand the centuries of hate. Is it because the Jews have always been more resourceful and threatened the existing structure of the middle east? Sure. Is it because they wield an undue amount of influence for such a small country? Sure. Is it because they rule the world? Not likely, but they are trying hard. Maybe these centuries of tactics are what has allowed them to survive even with so much hate against them. If they are supreme manipulators of the world and we realize that, keeping it in mind is logical.
Lastly, there are many posters here who fall for the splintering tactics of Sea Island, the left, and RINO’s. Every candidate horse is never going to be perfect, PDJT will never please everyone, there will be disagreements, and the splinterers will be allies for some issues if MAGA is well informed and led by generally good, imperfect people. If Big Ron gets the nom wouldn’t he be better than Newsom? How about JD against Kamala? Common sense dictates we work with what we got. Knowing that Sundance will keep us in the loop, we do what we can to prevent the nasty evil left from taking over.
But, if Tampon Tim Walz gets re-elected in MN, I will have no optimism left.
SD three things. Thanks again for laying out at least the 80% unseen anywhere except here “truth”.
There is an old adage that goes something like “take the alligator closest to the boat first”. Seems like MJT is the alligator closest to the Sea Island boat that PDJT has taken the shotgun to in the first rounds of the upcoming fight from hell!! Massie and Rand included.
Thirdly, please if it pleases; Try not using President and Obama in a sentence together. Like fingernails on a chalkboard Sir!
Thank you, Sundance!
Especially appreciate the history regarding Florida Governor Ron DeSantis –
the silence regarding the Mar-A-Lago raid was it for me.
Seven months from now the usual suspects will be screaming “Trump is destroying MAGA” because he isn’t holding a rally for each and every republican seat that’s up in November.
I think it would be most interesting if Qatar would reexamine the role of President Barack Obama in the “Arab Spring” and why in the hell were they manipulated into helping to sponsor that –
who exactly “dreamed” it all up? Did the head honchos of the Muslim Brotherhood design it? It was their guy put in place of Hosni Mubarak.
Were the globalist slavering wolves in on the attack and horrific murder of Col. Ghaddafi? Was the destruction of Libya and first getting Col. Ghaddafi out of the way essential to the emptying of the continent of Africa so that the resources could be plundered? What happened to the gold that Col. Ghaddafi had amassed in his plan to make Libya a fortress nation that could lead the way for other African nations to assert sovereignty?
If it was actually the purportedly brilliant Barack Obama who set forth the Arab Spring initiatives and he was simply involving Qatar not for the benefit of Qatar but to use Qatar and then at some point take Qatar away, too and make it part of a new swathe of nations run by the appointees of a new caliphate, the Muslim Brotherhood and Qatar’s leaders were kept in the dark about this, I should think that would be pretty obnoxious to the leaders of Qatar and Barack Obama would find his legacy somewhat in question.
Reading the comment section can be horribly frustrating.
Why do you say that? I love the comments.
Can both be true?
Absolutely. It’s Schrodinger’s comment section:.
between the obvious planted trolls
and the well meaning but emotional
caterwauling about Israel, etc…….
it can get tedious
the ones that have me scratching my head
are the reposting or regurgitating of
CNN/MSNBC, ABC, etc. “news”
illustrating that some have learned nothing
Not lately. I think what Sundance warns about splintering MAGA is happening here
We have trolls here who are trying to divide us. So we need to be discerning. I watched the very interesting debate between Dinesh and Fuentes, which Bannon said Fuentes won in a landslide, but I saw two EXCELLENT and congenial debaters who are both on my team. I look at the hot war between Tucker and Levin, who I’ve met and generally like, and I side with Tucker. I look at the battle between VSG and MTG and I side with Leader VSG, because Green can’t seem to process the old adage, “Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.” It’s all fine. MAGA’s having some growing pains is all. We stand against the RINOs and the left. The vast majority of us understand that.
There is a real MAGA split and it is getting bigger with each passing day…
It is not being caused by Israel, Tucker, MTG, or trolls…
What’s The cause, then?
A split doesn’t necessarily play out as a lost vote ,MAGAs will come together when needed.
I don’t believe MAGA is easily split apart
Perhaps the so called “conservative” labeled
republican supporters who are probably rino to begin with
give that appearance because they have no values/loyalty
in the first place
President Trump Won!! No worries!!
Gracias Dios!!
BS
Jjoy,
It is not a real “split”.
Cui bono?
The “split” is a psy-op, a narrative fueled and promoted by the Uniparty and their minions. The latest iteration of taking down MAGA and PJDT.
Yep, it is a REAL split, and Nope, I have nothing to gain by telling the truth of the matter.
You THINK there is a split because that’s what you have been told.
I notice you don’t answer when people asked the cause.
Care to explain?
It’s likely that jjoy doesn’t receive notifications of replies.
Nope, I know it is a real split because it is obvious to persons of average intelligence…
Yes, I will explain my delay in answering your query: I simply answer when I have time to sit down at the computer, which may not be when you want me to answer.
I do not see a split. I think that people have their opinion of what is going on with
Tucker /Levine……MTG and her comments for past several months………C Owens went off the rails
I stay true to my beliefs in MAGA,
There are trolls on every site just trying to cause distention
Believe in yourself and Trust Sundance
Sundance has always been my Gatekeeper for the truth
My “spidey-sense” I guess you could call it is giving me the same vibe about this so-called rift in MAGA as all those “Q” droppings did which were quite prevalent around the time of the funeral of Senator John McCain – it seemed the “Q” droppings reached their maximum peak about that time, with laser beams coming out of the eyes of Jim Mattis and John Kelly looking over at Lindsey Graham being hugged by Huma Abedin at the funeral and what was it that Huma slipped into Lindsey’s jacket pocket?
Never found out!
It was overly much and I got the impression that “Q” – whoever and whatever “Q” is – wanted us to put our own powers of observation on hold and wait for the next dropping. It’s like those people who go on Sean Hannity and tell us all about the next shoe to drop. Uh huh.
It seems like a fabricated situation, using the Heritage Foundation and the people there as tools.
I just want President Trump to address sincere worries about his comments the other night in the Laura Ingraham interview.
Good discernment.
I think MAGA goes towards the OLD GOP and America First picks up the torch and carries on.
Tea Party > MAGA > America First
Many people here will have a hard time digesting this, but in the coming years, will realize MAGA got co-opted in Trump’s 2nd term by the very people MAGA was against.
Hello Palantir, Big Brother, Foreign Governments, IC community, etc.
Not trolling or dividing, just say’in what I am see’in.
“Just saying,” he says with a sweet smile… “I’m not trolling, oh no….”
Been here for many years… pre-Trump in fact. I would vote for Trump again unless there was a better option; and there isn’t a better option that I know of.
Sweet smile 🙂 I’m blushing!
The enemies of our nation and her people haven’t change one iota, whatever label you wish to apply to either one – nor have they “co-opted” PDJT’s second term, only made it harder to accomplish some things. If they had actually co-opted it, nowhere near the number of things that have been accomplished would have been accomplished and many more, considerably worse things would have happened.
Instead things are much as they have always been, a battle between two opposing forces – one an enemy that is great at slithering into areas it shouldn’t be – the other led by the best “champion” the people currently have and the only one who could accomplish the list of things he has done and survived the attacks that have been executed against him. He is human and like all of us, has warts and isn’t infallible. To expect otherwise is folly.
Sometimes the enemy wins – if it weren’t so we wouldn’t be in the state we are. Progress is never in a straight line, there are always battles that are lost, casualties that occur. The way forward is to limit the damage of the losses and build upon the successes.
The “old GOP” – aka uniparty in red – will never be MAGA, nor America First, nor America Now – just as they weren’t and never would be Tea Party.
The people that love our nation and believe in her founding ideals will always be on the side of her and her people, regardless of the labels some might wish to apply.
“Tea Party > MAGA > America First” could be a natural evolution.
MAGA IS America First.
Those trying to claim they are different things, are the dividers.
Agreed. But something is in the air. Trump doesn’t feel “accessible “ in the way he used to.
And I can’t get my head around the 600,000 Chinese students. How can that be a good thing?
It’s been said that at times when we are most confused is when we are most enlightened.
Seeking the truth is not easy.
Especially in the multitude of complexities President Trump is dealing with, let alone the lying media and the real suffering people are experiencing after living through Obummer’s third term.
It seems to me that if all or most illegals are deported and the VISAs of others are revoked, then we won’t have a shortage of labor. Seems like we had plenty of skilled people to do the work before all those millions were added to our country. We’re told we need more doctors, schools, truckers, more food, more electricity, etc., but in my opinion it’s because of the millions of people who came here suddenly and demanded we provide them with everything.
We need to remember life in America before tech and what we’re capable of achieving. My mom’s family owned a small cotton farm in central Texas. When their father died, they sold the farm, moved to California and immediately took jobs in aircraft factories. All were young with only a high school diploma, but they were trained and trained quickly to produce spectacular aircraft in huge numbers.
Stop importing people, even temporarily. Congress could start by reinstating the McCarran Warner Act that was repealed in 1992.
God Bless the United States of America!!!
And the Glass-Steagall Act. Also enacted by people with far more experience about “how the world could go very wrong.”
AMERICA NOW!!!
and have more babies…
Boy, do I remember the Tea Party! It was full steam here in TN. We did block amnesty for illegals cause the GOPe was all in for it. I remember sabotaging Senator Lamar Alexander at an event in Cookeville, TN. He was so red faced P.O.’D!
I know what President Trump is doing with the foreign affairs to preface the fair trade deals to get our economy back. But he need to explain in simple terms like you Sundance have done with your Lemon example. Trump is not doing that and instead keeps saying food prices are down. No they aren’t and won’t be for awhile, if we’re lucky.
Personally, I’d like to see him stop playing nicey nice with the GOPe in both the House and Senate. They just want to bottleneck his policies. Tell Bondi and Patel to get their shite together or leave. The new Maga voters need to see arrests and guilties. Push the house to impeach a couple judges starting with Boesberg. Fix the elections or 2026 is gone. Inject the GOP with a real spine instead of enriching themselves. That’s for that a-hole Senator Thune and his specialty amendment for senators only. That was so disgusting and vile.
I learned from the Tea Party how vile the GOPe was and still is. To think we’re still having to deal with Mitch McConnell who hates the base. At least John McCain has died so that traitor no longer is around to screw us.
Appreciate your comment.
Thank you too..
I’m with you, Lamar Alexander can go to Hades, he was no better than the Turtle; IIRC, one of McCain’s descriptives of the Tea Party was “Wacko Birds,” thus my screen name, ‘huecowacko’ with a little alliteration.
I went to several Tea Party rallys, town meetings, and was all in for them. Hard for me to make sense of what is happening now. I just trust Sundance and his knowledge.
Linsey is still here and operating.
Ah, Good ol’ Lamar Alexander. Tried to look like a rugged outdoorsman, but ended up looking like Elmer Fudd.
Godspeed, Sundance, wherever your travels take you!